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23:59 eythian Installed: 5.10.1-17squeeze6
23:59 eythian perl-modules:
23:59 eythian our $VERSION = '0.92';
23:59 eythian tcohen: # grep -i VERSION Test/More.pm | head -1
23:55 tcohen i trusted jenkins too much i guess
23:55 tcohen i'll provide a fix
23:55 tcohen ok
23:55 eythian but this one has a syntax error
23:54 tcohen but we have subtests awhile ago
23:54 rangi has been for a long time
23:54 rangi http://perldoc.perl.org/Test/More.html
23:54 eythian yeah
23:54 rangi its part of core
23:53 eythian actually, there is no libtest-more-perl in squeeze
23:51 eythian Though, it might be better to think of it as the test case is written to a wrong version of Test::More
23:48 eythian I'm doing a bit of testing now, seeing if I can break into a properly set up pbuilder environment.
23:48 eythian It's possible
23:47 tcohen my guess is that libtest-more-perl has a wrong version
23:45 tcohen nope
23:45 eythian because that ensures a clean environment.
23:45 eythian have you tried it in pbuilder?
23:44 tcohen eythian: i cannot reproduce (on jenkins) the problem you mention
23:44 tcohen ah, still a couple of hours for friday here
23:42 dcook ^
23:41 rangi not too bad, glad it's friday
23:41 tcohen how r u doing rangi
23:41 rangi hi tcohen
23:36 tcohen hi
22:55 cait good night all :)
22:55 cait sorry, too tempting :)
22:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12501 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Show Dissertation note (MARC21 502) in XSLT results
22:54 cait bug 12501 :P
22:54 cait hm also
22:54 cait the CGI::scrolling should be doable
22:54 cbrannon cati: Thanks. I'll search for now. Killing a few minutes before I have to go.
22:53 cait cbrannon: want me to find something for you?
22:51 cbrannon Argh! We need a flag in Bugzilla showing what patches are sandbox worthy. I have to pass on so much! :/
22:50 eythian Generally it's "whatever makes it the most readable."
22:50 eythian it's hard to have a sane autoindent for template toolkit given you're often mixing a few languages.
22:47 cbrannon so wahanui is intentional. Okay. :)
22:46 pianohacker there's an ongoing debate about that
22:46 rangi some is, some isn't
22:46 dan_ the lack of indenting in *.tt files is intentional, am I right?
22:46 wahanui yes, pianohacker?
22:46 pianohacker wahanui?
22:46 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines
22:46 pianohacker coding guidelines?
22:46 wahanui OK, pianohacker.
22:46 pianohacker wahanui takes some getting used to, but is occasionally useful
22:45 cbrannon ah...that's odd.
22:45 pianohacker do we have any XML TT templates?
22:45 pianohacker true
22:45 rangi it could be anything
22:45 pianohacker cbrannon: just to make sure you know, wahanui is a chatbot
22:45 rangi its template toolkit
22:45 rangi or xml
22:45 pianohacker pretty forgivable, given that these files might have HTML, TT, JS, CSS and if you're unlucky Perl :P
22:45 wahanui que tal, cbrannon
22:45 cbrannon wahanui: hello
22:44 wahanui hola, cbrannon
22:44 cbrannon dan: howdy
22:44 rangi htmltidy makes a mess
22:44 rangi dan_: there doesnt seem to be a good .tt linting/tidy tool
22:44 dan_ BTW, hi everyone
22:43 dan_ I've found http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Perltidy it's a tool for indent *.pm and *.pl, but in the case of *.tt files how is that? Is it used a de-indenting tool for performance purposes?
22:31 pianohacker eythian++
22:31 pianohacker woo!
22:31 eythian pianohacker: https://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=libcgi-compress-gzip-perl FYI
22:24 bgkriegel :)
22:23 cait bgkriegel++ :)
22:22 rangi thanks for that
22:20 rangi bgkriegel++
22:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12539 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove hardcoded theme from C4/Templates.pm
22:19 bgkriegel rangi: uploaded a new version of Bug 12539
22:18 wahanui que tal, eythian
22:18 eythian hi
21:56 wizzyrea O.O
21:56 rangi because this youtube video has rendered me senseless
21:56 wizzyrea #wellingtonproblems
21:55 rangi i cant tell if that was the wind or an earthquake
21:29 pianohacker haha yup
21:29 wizzyrea :/
21:28 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTg8lisw2gM
21:27 wahanui i think also this is cool
21:27 rangi also this
21:25 wahanui http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/68930308689/working-on-ncip-kohails
21:25 pianohacker ncip?
21:11 wizzyrea dashing even.
21:11 wizzyrea dahsing is cool. ;)
21:07 cait hmmmmm
21:07 * rangi drops the mic
21:05 rangi json reports + dashing = dashboard quite easily
21:04 rangi http://dashing.io/
21:04 rangi so you know how we have the reports api that hands out json
21:00 pianohacker hi
20:40 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:40 rangi @later tell Dyrcona feel free to merge your changes whenever you think its functionally equiv ... im happy to wait to do much more until its merged, to avoid conflicts
20:25 rangi latest mail to the list
20:25 cait hm?
20:25 rangi designers get those emails all the time, i can totally sympathise with them
20:24 rangi heh
20:11 bgkriegel hi rangi
20:11 cait morning rangi :)
20:09 rangi morning
20:07 bgkriegel Ok, I change it to 'In Discussion' until can fix it
20:04 cait yep
20:04 bgkriegel or simply add the syspref, set it to prog, and then wait ...
20:02 cait that woudl make it a bit easier
20:02 cait maybe we could hold back on the patch a bit and just set it to bootstrap?
20:02 bgkriegel I'll try to work on it
20:01 bgkriegel No problem :)
20:00 cait sorry for making it harder for you bgkriegel
19:59 bgkriegel that could work
19:59 jcamins Suggestion: add a syspref to set which theme is the fallback and set it to bootstrap for new installs and prog for upgrades until prog is actually removed.
19:58 cait and better than changing the standard files
19:57 cait people don't have to go crazy, but having one file changed for a specific need would be good
19:57 cait yeah
19:57 oleonard I agree. While we don't want to officially maintain more than one set of templates, it should be possible to have them.
19:57 cait if it doesn't allow to still add new templates
19:56 cait hm that would be a feature break then
19:56 wahanui I know.
19:56 bgkriegel yes, that's right
19:56 oleonard Is that why it breaks CCSR?
19:56 cait ah
19:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12539 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove hardcoded theme from C4/Templates.pm
19:55 oleonard bgkriegel: Does Bug 12539 remove a fallback between installed templates?
19:55 bgkriegel :)
19:55 * druthb takes two
19:55 * cait hands out cookies to everyone still around
19:54 bgkriegel yep
19:54 oleonard bgkriegel still around?
19:54 druthb :/
19:03 bgkriegel fixed all I could find
19:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12686 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , Make more selected option XHTML complian
19:02 bgkriegel oleonard: Thanks for your sign, now Bug 12686 :)
19:02 oleonard bgkriegel: ?
19:00 oleonard yes
18:59 * cait waves
18:57 bgkriegel oleonard, around?
17:47 larryb okay, I've restarted the git-daemon. It should be working now
17:47 gml Hello, please someone could help me with this. How can I do a benchmark test like the one on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Benchmark_for_3.8 ?
17:44 larryb I think git needs a restart
17:44 larryb hmmm, the server logs are showing: Jul 31 17:14:26 git git-daemon[24139]: Too many children, dropping connection
17:42 bgkriegel larryb: same for me
17:41 larryb I'm getting a connection reset by peer message
17:41 larryb is anyone else having problems connecting to the git site?
17:40 larryb hello #koha
17:38 cait due and duedgst are ok
17:38 cait patron wants them 1 days before due date, checked out something with due date yesterday... ran advance_notices.pl and nothing
17:37 cait i am testing close to master and i can't generate them the usual way
17:37 cait hmsomene aware of a problem with predue messages?
17:19 cbrannon oleonard: no one cares if the public's devices get hacked ;)
17:18 cbrannon oleonard: public wifi
17:11 gml Hello, please someone could help me with this. How can I do a benchmark test like the one on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Benchmark_for_3.8 ?
17:00 oleonard cbrannon: I frequently find git is blocked by firewalls. Also: Your wifi bypasses the firewall? :)
16:47 cait ashimema++
16:46 barton ashimema++
16:46 ashimema mwahahaha.. I have tamed C4::Context->config !
16:45 barton Neither of these mention fines.pl, which is where I ran across them :-)
16:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5159 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref description misleading
16:45 barton and Bug 5159
16:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10754 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , HomeOrHoldingBranch and CircControl are described identically in the system preference editor
16:44 barton cait: I found a couple of bugs mentioning HomeOrHoldingBranch and CircControl: Bug 10754
16:38 barton That's good. :-)
16:37 cait there is a bug for that
16:37 cait barton: i am not sure if anyone knows
16:36 barton what's the difference between the syspref 'CircControl' => Use the checkout and fines rules of {specify branch info} and HomeOrHoldingBranch => Use the checkout and fines rules of {specify branch info} ... why are these two different variables?
16:28 cait cbrannon: keeping fingers crossed :)
16:24 cbrannon working it out. Had to jump on our wifi to bypass firewall. It seems to be working now. :)
16:23 ashimema mm
16:22 jcamins ashimema: not enough 'h's.
16:22 cait i think we don't offer http currently for some reason i forgot hm
16:21 cbrannon Fetch failed...couldn't resolve host 'git.koha-community.org' using http. :/
16:20 ashimema very similar code seems to work for tcohen.. but not for me :(
16:19 ashimema indeed it is.
16:19 jcamins Bwahahahahaha!!!!
16:19 jcamins ashimema: you mean... it's _mocking_ you?
16:19 ashimema I can't get it to recognise my mocked config.
16:19 ashimema I'm stuck at the first hurdle with this shibboleth test..
16:18 ashimema nice to be right about one thing now and then.
16:18 cait ashimema: andi think i shoud learn about tracking to make my life easier :)
16:18 cait ashimema: I think you are right :)
16:13 cbrannon Perhaps it is a firewall issue. Trying the http instead.
16:07 ashimema anywho.
16:07 ashimema you your explicitly telling git to rebase against.. where as my pull is using the track in the config
16:07 cbrannon I am attempting to setup a test box for Koha. I am in debian and use "git clone git://git.koha-community.org/koha.git kohaclone", but I get a connection refused error. Any ideas what I am doing wrong? FYI, I've never used debian before today.
16:07 cait hm yeah, i use git rebase -i origin/master...
16:07 ashimema or maybe there's somthing wrong with my setup
16:06 ashimema I don't believe so
16:06 cait tcohen: not sure, but i never do any specific tracking, so maybe
16:04 tcohen doesn't the checkout imply --track?
16:03 gerundio cait, ashimema but I have to start with "git clone http://git.koha-community.org/koha.git ...", right?
16:02 ashimema that way a 'git pull --rebase' will keep your patch up to date to apply atop master
16:02 ashimema git checkout origin/master -b bug_12669_tz_error --track origin/master
16:02 ashimema or even better.. set your local branch to track too
15:55 tcohen that sits on top of master
15:55 tcohen to create a branch called bug_12669_tz_error
15:55 gerundio ok, thanks
15:54 tcohen git checkout origin/master -b bug_12669_tz_error
15:54 tcohen just do
15:54 tcohen gerundio, the bits that say how to do some work
15:53 cait and what tcohen said :)
15:53 cait gerundio: patches shoudl always be submitted for th emaster branch
15:53 tcohen gerundio: strictly follow the "Version Control for Koha using Git" section on the first link
15:52 tcohen gerundio: i'm about to leave for lunch
15:52 gerundio but I'm not sure which repository to clone in order to submit the patch
15:52 gerundio tcohen, I've went through http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git and http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SubmitingAPatch
15:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12507 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , News does not always display in staff or OPAC
15:51 oleonard khall: You picked a good day to send a patch for Bug 12507
15:40 gerundio tcohen, I don't have a propper Koha development environment set up
15:39 gerundio I'm still not sure if this solution might affect the behaviour of date handling on other koha features
15:38 tcohen gerundio: will you provide a proper patch?
15:38 gerundio the principle remains the same
15:38 gerundio I missed one there, just added another small fix on other code entry
15:26 tcohen it is consistent with colin's idea, so, i'm ok with that
15:22 gerundio tcohen, nice
15:22 tcohen gerundio: it looks good to me
15:12 gerundio can anyone check my last comment on that bug and see if that would solve the problem without creating additional issues?
15:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12669 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , "Template process failed: undef error - Invalid local time for date in time zone"
15:11 gerundio bug 12669?
15:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12174 follow-up of the patch (a missing print statement) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7123eeccf87f3b53fb05f6b3fea0fecbec3ab232> / Bug 12174 - Zotero connection with Koha: problem with UTF-8 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec44d407d5597fe6e49677b083c606d1e57f5ef7> / Bug 12568 [QA Followup] - Use ':' as separator instead of '|' <http://git.koha-community
14:54 ashimema hmm.
14:45 ashimema I see
14:45 ashimema I se.
14:45 ashimema seeing as I copied the config layout form ldap for consistency!
14:45 ashimema I'm trying to mock a very similar data structure..
14:45 tcohen i'm struggling with the mocked object not respecting changes in the global variables
14:44 ashimema but not quite!
14:44 ashimema yeah.. mine too.
14:44 tcohen heh
14:44 tcohen mine *almost* works
14:38 ashimema just making mine attempt match your a bit more closely.
14:37 ashimema i was close.. assuming your stuff works of course ;)
14:37 ashimema indeed.. it's not simple is it..
14:37 ashimema :)
14:37 * tcohen heads to continue that LDAP mocking s*t
14:37 tcohen let me know if i can be of help
14:33 ashimema I'm mocking a shibboleth config so I can test against it.
14:33 ashimema i've just remembered you've done pretty much what I want in the ldap testing work you pointed me to before..
14:32 tcohen ashimema: what do u want to mock?
14:23 bgkriegel fixing them now
14:23 bgkriegel np :)
14:22 oleonard bgkriegel++ # thanks for the follow-ups!
14:18 oleonard Mahdi: You could add the image to a web-accessible folder on the server or you could put the file on another web server and refer to it there.
13:59 Mahdi ?
13:59 Mahdi i just need to copy into some apache folder
13:59 Mahdi yeah so if i want to put it up on the server
13:58 cait Mahdi: you can do that with CSS - you can have the file anywhere, but i'd put it on the same server
13:57 cait tcohen maybe?
13:57 Mahdi hi there. I have koha running on a debian squeeze environment. if I want to upload an alternative logo for the OPAC where can i copy the file to?
13:51 druthb yep. We just had the release party for the second of them last night—and code freeze for the third one is just over a month away.
13:51 ashimema anyone here able to point me to a test which mocks koha config nicely for me to copy ;)
13:50 JesseM oh I bet. busy busy busy
13:50 druthb Busy busy—three releases a year is keeping us jumpin around here.
13:49 druthb I'm good!
13:49 druthb I know you've missed that. :P
13:49 JesseM How are you Ruth?
13:49 druthb Welcome. :)
13:49 JesseM Thanks druthb :)
13:48 druthb :P
13:48 * druthb points and laughs at JesseM.
13:46 JesseM too many irc channels open at once
13:46 JesseM Yep! :)
13:45 ashimema btdt
13:45 ashimema haha.. wrong channel JesseM?
13:43 JesseM oops :P
13:42 huginn JesseM: The operation succeeded.
13:42 JesseM @later tell larryb This carnegie needs an update please. This is a HIGH priority for them. http://ticket.bywatersolutions.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=17856
13:41 nengard and i don't see style2 defined in their css, so i'm not sure what they wanted that to be ... off to hunt it down
13:38 nengard I was thinking in terms of tables and colspan I guess when I did the header in the same row-fluid
13:38 nengard thank you!!!
13:37 oleonard nengard: Also note that you're missing a style attribute declaration in that answerland <img>
13:36 oleonard nengard: Your .span12 div needs to be inside its own .row-fluid div
13:36 JesseM :)
13:36 JesseM Cant wait cait
13:34 cait :)
13:33 nengard 2016 in Germany!
13:33 nengard yes!!!!
13:32 cait i guss it's time to organize kohacon in germany... so you all get some first hand experience :)
13:32 nengard yum
13:31 rhcl I suppose you could get a double Sauerkraut on a bun?
13:30 nengard and putting meat on top of meat does not strike my fancy
13:30 nengard No, I'm not a big meat eater
13:30 cait um....
13:30 nengard love it
13:30 nengard LOL
13:29 wahanui http://i.imgur.com/hVVuP.jpg
13:29 rhcl no?
13:29 nengard okay ... that does not appeal to me
13:29 rhcl good german food -> http://wienerschnitzel.com/
13:29 nengard :)
13:29 oleonard nengard: I'm looking
13:28 nengard so that's a-ok
13:28 nengard I don't know what 'typical' German food is :)
13:27 cait as long as you don't expect 'typical German' food :)
13:27 nengard we can take turns cooking each other dinners :) hehe
13:27 cait also looking forward to that kitchen
13:26 nengard means I can pack less
13:26 nengard i'm just happy about the washer/dryer
13:26 cait yep :)
13:26 nengard cait that's funny! It will be like a luxury vacation for you :)
13:25 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "oleonard got a sec for some bootstrap help?" (71 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/126
13:23 cait i might get lost :)
13:22 cait the only thing tha towrries me a bit is that it's bigger than my apartment here...
13:21 nengard cool
13:20 cait nengard: you already know it :)
13:20 * cait is now sad too
13:00 ashimema indeed
13:00 ashimema :'(
12:58 oleonard Oh cool I'll see you for breakfast ashimema ;)
12:57 * ashimema is also checking into Hotel Sadness :(
12:57 oleonard I wish I could!
12:57 tcohen oleonard: come to argentina, please
12:54 * oleonard is staying at Hotel Sadness, located conveniently on Not Going to KohaCon Avenue.
12:47 * nengard was excited to find out
12:47 nengard and of course good morning all :)
12:46 nengard rangi said it was the same one as him - which is the same one as me and Brian :)
12:46 nengard cait what hotel are you staying in for kohacon?
12:38 cait hi oleonard :)
12:37 oleonard Hi all
12:36 tcohen bye paul_p
12:35 tcohen whatsup wahanui
12:35 wahanui kia ora, tcohen
12:35 tcohen hi there
12:35 cait hi tcohen :)
12:34 tcohen mormorning! #koha
12:22 kivilahtio I guess not but what kind of experiences do you have?
12:21 kivilahtio Do you have any idea is screen scraping our own data illegal from a closed source vendors system?
12:13 marcelr :)
12:13 cait thanks a lot!
12:13 cait marcelr++
11:25 ashimema so you end up screwing the pooch
11:25 ashimema it also blocks you from adding categories manually..
11:25 ashimema indeed..
11:25 cait all the scrolling to preview and save... gah.
11:25 cait ashimema: i dislike it a lot too
11:23 gerundio ashimema, thanks for explanation on the //= operator
11:19 ashimema it makes tidying up the wiki almost impossible.
11:19 ashimema I've asked galen if we can get that removed..
11:15 ashimema bloody thing!
11:15 ashimema it hides the wiki page source..
11:15 ashimema that stupid plugin to add categories gets in the way of adding categories half the time..!
11:15 ashimema ack..
11:11 cait yep
11:10 ashimema I 'hate' our categories too ;)
11:10 ashimema indeed.. it's currenlty not linked from anywhere whilst I was writting it.
11:09 cait ashimema: you need to add a category to fix navigation on that wiki page *sigh*
11:09 ashimema you saw.. but I'm still super happy about it :)
11:09 cait yep was still here when he did that .)
11:09 ashimema cait.. matts signed off..
11:09 ashimema for {with_hours}
11:08 ashimema I think it does an 'if undefined then set to 0'
11:08 cait just got back from lunch. looking nice
11:08 ashimema gerundo..
11:08 ashimema that ok to you?
11:08 ashimema cait: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Shibboleth_Configuration
11:05 wahanui hola, bgkriegel
11:05 bgkriegel Hi
10:59 gerundio as in "$config->{with_hours} //= 0;" at https://github.com/digibib/koha-work/blob/master/Koha/Template/Plugin/KohaDates.pm#L31
10:50 gerundio general perl question: what does the "//=" operator do?
10:50 gerundio good morning
09:37 ashimema I'll throw an updated cleansed version onto the koha wiki.
09:36 ashimema I did indeed..
09:35 cait i think you changed soemthing about the configuration in koha-conf after?
09:35 cait not sure i feel confident about my notes
09:35 cait they are
09:31 ashimema tests are hard.
09:31 ashimema :(
09:31 ashimema and yes.. I still need to write some tests before it'll get accepted into master..
09:31 ashimema the docs in the patch are good enough to start.. thought we still need to copy accross your notes into w wiki page.
09:26 cait ashimema: so docs and tests now?
09:25 cait matts: i can add the sign off line later too i thik
09:25 cait matts++ :)
09:23 matts You're welcome :) Also, thanks to cait for providing shib support :)
09:22 ashimema Thanks!
09:22 ashimema matts++ you are a hero mate!
09:22 matts ashimema, I've successfully tested your patch, and have it signed-off :)
08:13 petter hi #koha
08:03 paul_p for Jonathan & me
08:03 paul_p if yes, sounds a very good deal...
08:00 paul_p rangi (oups... hello first)
08:00 paul_p rangi I see you booked coralt hotel (as well as Nicole). Is it http://www.agoda.com/en-ca/coralt-apartment/hotel/cordoba-ar.html ? (ie: an appartment)
07:59 paul_p hello #koha
07:31 cait how are you?
07:31 cait hi BobB :)
07:21 BobB its evening here :)
07:20 BobB hi cait
07:18 cait good morning
07:16 fridolin hie all
07:07 ashimema good morning matts
07:04 matts hello
06:52 wahanui privet, alex_a
06:52 alex_a bonjour
06:44 * cait has to run bbiab
06:42 ashimema :)
06:41 dcook Suppose I can't complain too much :)
06:41 dcook Had tons of chocolate...
06:41 dcook ashimema: Well, I think I resolved all my IE bugs, so that was good
06:41 dcook Which probably helps with long-term maintainability...
06:41 dcook I suppose the one handy thing about Java is that it's so cumbersome that you don't make any little tweaks in the moment
06:41 ashimema not your day aye dcook
06:40 * dcook grumbles
06:40 dcook Bah...no xinclude available even though it would make this process so much easier...
06:28 marcelr hi cait :)
06:28 cait hi marcelr :)
06:27 cait hi mar
06:27 marcelr hi #koha
06:27 ashimema I like consistency
06:27 ashimema sensible patch though..
06:27 ashimema yikes
06:19 cait all time consuming to test
06:15 cait the qa queue looks pretty scary this morning
06:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10900 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Incorrect calling conventions accessing C4::Context
06:13 cait bug 10900?
06:11 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
06:11 ashimema @later tell pianohacker thanks for the upload, greatly appreciated. One last question on the staff client shib.. do you setup the staff client as a second service provider?
05:48 dcook Probably reliable :)
05:46 ashimema So.. I think I can rely on getting type from context which make the staff client patch nice and simple now :)
05:46 dcook Well done! :D
05:46 ashimema indeed.
05:45 dcook "type" and all that
05:45 dcook Ah, I thought that might be what you meant
05:45 ashimema there's a
05:45 ashimema get's set at the top of get_template_and_user
05:45 dcook not sure what you meant by it anyway :)
05:45 ashimema found that too..
05:45 ashimema indeed
05:45 dcook As for the interface question...
05:44 dcook It doesn't need to be used an object method and it doesn't need to be exported
05:44 ashimema that's 'nice'
05:44 ashimema completely nuking the line leave shibboleth completely intact.
05:44 dcook Because if you call a sub like so "C4::Context::SUB()"
05:44 ashimema indeed..
05:44 dcook Although I'm not sure I had to in retrospect
05:44 dcook I seem to recall making Context objects when doing stuff with auth as well..
05:44 ashimema yuk
05:44 ashimema I don't think the object created in this case is ever referenced..
05:43 ashimema hmm.. found a worthless line of code in this module I think.
05:43 dcook Whereas C4::Context->new should make a new object instance
05:43 dcook Well, "use C4::Context" should just load the module and import any exported subs
05:42 ashimema as well as whats the difference between use C4::Context and C4::Context->new
05:41 ashimema currently I'm really struggling to work out at what point Context has 'interface' set.
05:41 ashimema it's marginally less trivial than I thought.
05:41 ashimema currently working through getting shibboleth to be happy on the staff client.
05:37 ashimema me neither cait
05:37 * dcook thinks it might be 3:30pm here though
05:36 * dcook either
05:36 * cait doesn't feel awake yet
05:17 dcook Yep, definitely got my mind...
05:17 dcook Don't have to do it in IE though. Muahahaha.
05:17 dcook Ah...just remembered another Dspace thing to work on...
05:16 * dcook is sure that he has other non-IE things in his inbox to work on...
05:16 dcook eythian: In that case, I think it might be time to call it a day with IE
05:14 * cait waves
05:14 eythian dcook: it's taking your mind, next it'll take your soul!
05:14 eythian hi cait
05:13 dcook hey cait :)
05:13 * dcook has been staring at IE for so long that he doesn't even remember what he was doing anymore
05:04 ashimema hi dcook
05:04 wahanui hmmm... ashimema is on qa now .)
05:04 dcook heya ashimema
04:54 ashimema morning all
04:27 dcook The same sort of joy I get when I finally get it to do the right thing.
04:27 dcook Without a doubt
04:26 eythian sadistic joy
04:26 dcook It takes joy out of this.
04:26 dcook I figure it's more of a trickster than a hater.
04:26 eythian it's just full of hate
04:26 dcook Oh, IE7. Why do you require an absolute positioned div as well?
04:25 dcook Oh, IE7. Why don't you like this absolute positioned div?
04:25 * dcook is still working on IE
04:24 rangi it needs to be DOCTYPE i think
04:24 eythian sounds like IE
04:23 Francesca I don't think it likes html5 for some reason
04:21 Francesca sorry I saw that
04:21 rangi whoops, syntax error
04:20 rangi will do
04:19 Francesca ok I committed some more changes. Do you want to see if that will work once you've pulled it?
04:12 Francesca nah its still not working. I'll try something different
04:11 rangi done .. still doenst seem happy for me
04:10 rangi cool will pull now
04:10 Francesca Chris I added a fix for the menu and pushed it
04:10 bag yeah he's well loved :)
04:10 wizzyrea ginny++
04:10 wizzyrea awesome*
04:10 wizzyrea omg that's awesoem.
04:09 bag So trea is usually cheered in our house. Ginny calls him (lucas duda) - tree... more tree - hit... more tree - hit
04:08 wizzyrea lol bag
04:07 * dcook can't wait to get better so that he can go outside and play
04:06 dcook That sun really is invigorating...
04:05 dcook rangi: chrome too
04:05 bag wizzyrea: trea playing for the Mets http://media.nj.com/mets_main/photo/mets-lucas-duda-1jpg-9b012c585578e82c.jpg
04:05 rangi (going down instead of across .. at least on firefox anyway)
04:04 Francesca ok thats weird I'm pretty sure that was working last time I checked
04:04 wizzyrea hm yeah, out of hours consults are not cheap.
04:04 dcook Not really that bad for a random stranger
04:03 dcook Yeah, 85 was for a Sunday consult
04:03 dcook wizzyrea: Ouch...
04:03 wizzyrea it would have been ~240 for a doctor visit.
04:03 rangi hey Francesca http://irc.koha-community.org/ <--- the top menu is looking a little crazy
04:03 wizzyrea at our doctor in the states, if we hadn't had insurance
04:03 dcook But of course I already pay more than 85 a month... so... yeah...
04:03 eythian ah right
04:03 dcook But...I do have private insurance, so I should get it refunded once I fill out a claim
04:03 dcook twas 85
04:03 dcook eythian: Nope. I'm a foreigner.
04:03 dcook In that case, yes
04:02 eythian dcook: do you not have medicaid?
04:02 wizzyrea it's ~20 for spud, ~40 for grownfolk at our GP
04:02 wizzyrea was it expensive?
04:02 * dcook has never associated doctor and credit card together in his life...
04:02 dcook Weird paying to see the doctor...
04:01 * dcook actually went to the doctor for the first time ever in Australia on Sunday
04:01 dcook Poor fellow..
04:01 wizzyrea that's where I left him anyway ^.^
04:01 wizzyrea he better be at home in bed.
04:01 dcook English is weird..
04:01 dcook wherever*
04:00 dcook get better, trea, where ever you are..
04:00 dcook Thanks, bag :)
04:00 wizzyrea he does get sick a few times a winter for sure.
04:00 bag get better dcook
04:00 bag oh bummer
04:00 wizzyrea hm.
04:00 * dcook is also sick atm though
04:00 * dcook swears trea is always sick
04:00 wizzyrea lol.
04:00 bag oh bummer
04:00 * dcook does remember quite a few rather warm nights in the prairies
04:00 wizzyrea :(
04:00 bag tell I said - happy birthday
04:00 wizzyrea sick atm
04:00 bag hey wizzyrea how's trea doing?
03:59 dcook Good ol' midwest
03:59 dcook Dang
03:59 wizzyrea can be in july
03:59 bag ouch
03:59 dcook At 11pm?
03:59 bag at night?
03:59 wizzyrea it's usually closer to 30
03:59 wizzyrea but, it's July
03:59 bag yeah but it's 11pm in kansas
03:59 dcook That makes sense
03:59 wizzyrea 14!
03:59 rangi thats pretty close to as far south as you can go
03:59 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Suburban City, Invercargill, New Zealand is 14.6°C (3:59 PM NZST on July 31, 2014). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.54 in 1000 hPa (Falling).
03:59 wizzyrea 19 is cool for kansas this time of year
03:59 rangi @wunder bluff nz
03:59 eythian quite far south
03:58 eythian south
03:58 dcook eythian: I think I know someone who spent a lot of time in Dunedin. North Island?
03:58 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 19.5°C (10:58 PM CDT on July 30, 2014). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
03:58 wizzyrea @wunder 66047
03:58 eythian dcook: on the other hand, here in wellington we're expecting 100kph winds this evening
03:58 huginn rangi: Error: No such location could be found.
03:58 rangi @wunder nzrc
03:58 dcook hehe
03:58 bag dcook: it's usually ridiculously pleasant here
03:58 huginn dcook: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
03:58 dcook huginn doesn't like nz today?
03:58 huginn rangi: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
03:58 rangi @wunder nznv
03:58 eythian anyway, I used to live near there. This time of year, I'd expect 0°-5°, maybe hitting 10° on a nice day.
03:57 dcook O_o
03:57 eythian ...
03:57 huginn eythian: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
03:57 eythian @wunder nzdn
03:57 huginn eythian: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
03:57 eythian @wunder dunedin, new zealand
03:57 bag dcook: usually
03:57 dcook eythian: Wow...that's...wow
03:57 eythian dcook: nowhere that should be that warm
03:56 dcook bag: I seem to recall you saying it was 21 most of the year?
03:56 rangi in the middle of winter
03:56 eythian for the lower part of the south island
03:56 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 20.0°C (8:56 PM PDT on July 30, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
03:56 bag @wunder 93102
03:56 dcook Whereabouts is that?
03:56 dcook Ooo, that sounds nice too
03:56 eythian also ridiculously warm
03:56 rangi close enough :)
03:56 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Pembroke Oamaru, Oamaru, New Zealand is 21.0°C (3:56 PM NZST on July 31, 2014). Conditions: . Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
03:56 rangi @wunder nzou
03:55 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Regina, Saskatchewan is 22.0°C (9:00 PM CST on July 30, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
03:55 dcook @wunder yqr
03:55 huginn dcook: Error: No such location could be found.
03:55 dcook @wunder regina, canada
03:55 huginn dcook: Error: No such location could be found.
03:55 dcook @wunder regina,sk
03:55 huginn rangi: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
03:55 rangi @wunder nztu
03:55 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on July 31, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
03:55 eythian @wunder nzwn
03:55 eythian well, I suppose that's to be expected from timaru
03:54 huginn eythian: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
03:54 eythian @wunder timaru, new zealand
03:54 huginn eythian: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
03:54 eythian @wunder timaru, nz
03:54 dcook 25...I believe it. It's rather warm out there...
03:54 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 25.0°C (1:30 PM EST on July 31, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling).
03:54 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
03:50 bag how's trea?
03:50 bag hola wizzyrea
03:50 bag my guess is he
03:48 wizzyrea shudder.
03:48 wizzyrea joomla!
03:48 wizzyrea must be a thing where he/she's from
03:19 rangi than i do
03:19 rangi they have a different understanding of most
03:19 rangi and CMS in the same server.
03:19 rangi Now a days most of the queries are regarding installation of Koha, DSpace
01:38 dcook I believe you!
01:38 dcook hehe
01:38 wizzyrea !
01:38 wizzyrea I can tell you it's all true1
01:38 dcook now = not*
01:38 dcook Umm...now that I've noticed but it wouldn't surprise me.
01:38 wizzyrea yeah 3.12.10
01:38 dcook Oh cataloguing. I thought you were saying circulation.
01:38 wizzyrea this'll be.... 3.12 I think but let me check
01:37 wahanui Which version of Koha are you using?
01:37 dcook Which version of Koha?
01:37 dcook Hmm
01:36 wizzyrea server responds quickly, IE takes ages to render it
01:36 wizzyrea but yeah, dcook: ie 11, slow cataloguing saves -- have you seen that?
01:33 wizzyrea :P
01:33 wizzyrea oh you mean not just *today*
01:33 wizzyrea oh. well that too :(
01:33 wizzyrea kind of but not really the same thing.
01:33 eythian wizzyrea: slow cataloguing thingamie
01:32 wizzyrea no I have Safari on iPad problems.
01:32 wizzyrea do I?
01:11 * dcook may have just provoked Murphy to get on enforcing his law now though...
01:11 dcook That said...I haven't been asked to replicate the style of a horrible webpage yet, so... fingers crossed
01:10 dcook It really does make this a million times easier
01:10 dcook I must say though...loving Bootstrap
01:07 dcook Purdy much
01:07 eythian There's always more IE problems.
01:03 dcook I thought wizzyrea had resolved the IE problems she was having though?
01:03 dcook I got 99 problems, and they're all with IE.
01:03 dcook I got 99 problems, and they're all with IE>
01:03 eythian wizzyrea has IE problems. She should tell dcook about them.
00:48 * dcook shudders
00:48 dcook It's a bit scary when you start to recognize version specific bugs in IE...and remember how to fix them
00:34 dcook Actually, I was thinking of using my current install at home to keep track of books I borrow from friends :p
00:34 dcook Well, the library at least
00:33 dcook Totally volunteer run as well :D
00:33 dcook Ah, well. They seem to be enjoying it :)
00:31 bag dcook++
00:31 bag you did - you helped install koha :)
00:30 dcook bag: Uh oh. Now I should do something to deserve that :p
00:30 dcook Mmm curry
00:28 rangi right, curry time
00:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12658 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, seanh, Needs Signoff , Select all options on installer screen
00:28 rangi bug 12658
00:28 bag dcook++
00:28 dcook rangi: Oh? Which is that?
00:28 dcook They started over and used the packages, and said they should've listened from the start ;)
00:27 rangi that will make that faster
00:27 rangi theres a bug i want someone to sign off on
00:27 dcook I told them to start over and use the packages.
00:27 dcook They didn't use the packages.
00:27 dcook rangi: Yeah, the first thing I said was "use the packages"
00:27 rangi most of it was teh webinstaller
00:27 dcook Nice one, rangi!
00:27 bag so has anyone else offerred up to host kohacon15?
00:27 wahanui using the packages is better anyway
00:27 rangi using the packages
00:27 rangi i did 8 installs in 37 minutes last friday
00:27 dcook It was fairly easy, but it would've been nicer to have the install go a bit smoother
00:27 bag cool
00:27 dcook I helped some friends in Canada install Koha for a small library of theirs
00:27 rangi *nod*
00:26 dcook Totes
00:26 bag easy to install - easier to update
00:26 bag plus in the interest of helping those that really need this :)
00:25 bag totally :)
00:25 dcook In terms of business, I imagine it would actually be in the best interest of businesses to make it easier to install Koha
00:24 dcook I was thinking a bit about that
00:24 bag boo to a drop down
00:23 rangi now they arent even listed in the dropdown of major vendors
00:23 bag boo to that company
00:23 rangi one company tried that already
00:23 eythian heh
00:23 bag heh
00:23 huginn bag: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
00:23 bag bag--
00:23 bag I don't know - having it be impossible to install still sounds like the way to go
00:23 eythian I'd also like to get the koha package beat into shape, I just don't quite know how to do it.
00:22 dcook Sounds good to me :)
00:21 rangi down=done
00:21 rangi click click and down (in ubuntu land)
00:21 rangi *nod*
00:21 eythian n+1/ it'll be a whole lot easier to install with absolutely no hoops for the distro version.
00:21 wahanui i guess yep that is what I see when I go into circ rules.
00:21 rangi and yep that
00:21 rangi 3/ it will force us to be more careful about dependencies we add
00:21 eythian n/ it'll be forced to match Debian policy better
00:20 rangi 2/ it will flow through into ubuntu
00:20 rangi 1/ it then comes under scrutiny of the debian security team
00:19 * dcook also lols
00:19 * dcook is curious about the motivation for getting Koha into Debian
00:19 rangi heh
00:19 eythian I'd expect so, unless all our work dries up but everyone keeps paying us :)
00:19 rangi unlikely we can get it done by november tho eh?
00:19 dcook :D
00:18 rangi sweet
00:18 eythian I've got plans for that.
00:18 eythian yeah
00:18 rangi basically need to learn debconf and get it to the point where an install can result in a working koha (or at least one where you can do the web based install to finish off)
00:17 rangi we are pretty much set on the copyright headers now
00:17 rangi popcon is yet another good reason to get koha proper into debian :)
00:16 rangi however im not sure evergreen has a package install yet, id suspect most of those 500ish are koha
00:15 rangi not yet
00:15 bag oh rangi you see the new hobbit trailer?
00:15 eythian hmm possibly yeah
00:14 rangi maybe evergreen
00:14 bag probably not
00:14 eythian https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=libbusiness-issn-perl <-- I wonder if anything other than Koha uses this...
00:14 eythian it's probably in unstable already
00:14 bag and the one that makes a nice roast beef sandwich for lunchies :D
00:13 bag I could use that one
00:13 bag oh get in that one dependencie that makes me espresso in the morning
00:06 rangi yeah good idea
00:06 eythian Maybe that can be a a quiet friday task or something.
00:05 eythian I made a start on that, need to do a bit more.
00:05 eythian yeah
00:05 rangi in preparation at least
00:05 rangi eythian: we should try to get the catmandu stuff in
00:04 eythian next Debian freeze date is the 5th of November. I'm hoping to get any Koha dependencies in by then, but if there's something that's currently overlooked in the packages, it's time to either let me know or join the Debian Perl team and do it yourself :)