Time Nick Message 03:04 eythian are we actually removing prog for good in master now? 03:04 eythian like now, now? 03:09 mtj hi eythian, yes i think so :) 03:10 mtj ...from what i recall on irc over the last few weeks 03:10 mtj i think the plan might be to have the prog dirs removed by 3.18? 03:13 eythian OK 03:13 eythian in that case, I'll remove them from the master package builds now then 03:13 eythian (I knew it was impending, just didn't know exactly when.) 03:35 eythian @later tell cait can you add something to the QA scripts that run the test cases without a database available, test cases get through every so often that fail because of that when I have to build packages. 03:35 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. 03:47 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 03:47 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (3:30 PM NZST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 03:48 wizzyrea *ponders* 03:51 dcook ponders? 03:51 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 03:51 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 20.0°C (1:30 PM EST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 03:51 * dcook looks outside 03:51 dcook I suppose it was fairly warm... 03:51 wizzyrea 20! 03:51 * dcook ponders 03:52 dcook I don't think it's 20 03:52 dcook Maybe that's at the airport or something 07:00 alex_a bonjour 07:44 cait good morning #koha 07:47 cait @later tell eythian I like the idea, but i am the wrong person to ask that - and not sure how to do it 07:47 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 08:28 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk 08:28 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 21.7°C (9:28 AM BST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). 10:24 ztajoli hi to all 10:24 ztajoli as CINECA we want to organize an hack meeting in Italy 10:25 ztajoli More exctly near Milan in Segrate in our building. 10:25 ztajoli http://www.cineca.it/en/content/where-we-are-located 10:26 ztajoli We have free place in our meeting rooms at 13-14/Nov/2014 10:26 ztajoli and at 20-21/Nov/2014. 10:26 ztajoli Any opinion ? 10:51 Joubu cait: what is the usefulness of the patch you SO on bug 10220? 10:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10220 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, evonne, Signed Off , IDs on checkin columns 10:53 cait What nicole said - Css changes are made easier 10:53 cait you can easily bold content of one columsn etc. 10:54 cait we have done similar on other tables 10:54 cait and it's a first patch 10:54 cait and clean 10:54 cait sorry i have to run and catch a train :) 10:54 cait cya all next week 12:10 nengard morning all 12:16 fridolin hie all 12:16 * fridolin releasing 3.14.09 12:28 tcohen morning! 12:28 wahanui morning is, like, a state of the cait 12:36 tcohen does anyone have debian testing at hand? 12:42 fridolin tcohen: what means at hand ? I have a Wheezy but no Jessie 12:43 tcohen robin reported that 12596 tests are failing in Jessie 12:54 tcohen fridolin: it wasn't *taht* bug, my mistake 12:54 tcohen bug 12443 12:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12443 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Initial re-factoring of buildQuery 12:55 fridolin tcohen: oki 13:04 * Dyrcona wonders if there are any laters for him. 13:11 tcohen @later tell Dyrcona hi Dyrcona 13:11 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 13:11 Dyrcona Hi, tcohen! 13:11 Dyrcona ;) 13:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12596: (followup) add reference to bug # and license note <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea124e29c17f053a763e05f4567cbe79f3387838> / Bug 12596 - Backdating returns with SpecifiyReturnDate causes fines for items not... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07dad6bb8358133d2724836a41006e0d54ea6cbd> / Bug 12596 - Unit Test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p 13:15 rhcl oleonard 13:15 wahanui i think oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 13:15 oleonard rhcl 13:17 * oleonard is trying a package install in a new VM, this time on Debian 13:17 oleonard Is there a preferred set of instructions to follow for Wheezy? 13:27 * Joubu likes the new progress bar on launching the QA tests :) 13:41 Joubu Does someone plan to SO on bug 11944? ztajoli maybe next week? 13:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 13:42 Joubu tcohen: are you confident on this patch set? 14:02 ztajoli I try to finish today 14:02 ztajoli The sandboxes could send mail ? 14:05 Joubu ztajoli: yes, I think so 14:06 ztajoli Ok, so i can test list and mail setup for utf-8 14:46 tcohen Joubu: almost 14:46 tcohen will be by monday 14:47 tcohen heh, when I have the time to review anything you did this days 14:48 Joubu tcohen: The patches still need a SO, but they are coming :) 14:49 * tcohen still cannot figure why translatable-templates.t fail inconsistently, only in jenkins 14:50 Joubu tcohen: maybe there is an extra tt file 14:50 tcohen there isn't 14:50 Joubu which file fails? 14:50 tcohen i cannot make it fail when I run it on my desktop, or the VM's I have for testing in different distros 14:55 Joubu tcohen: do you try to debug translate-templates.t to know the file in failure? It should be easy, just warn @warnings 15:10 ztajoli Hi, utf-8 test (bug 11944): Cart and list OK 15:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 15:15 Joubu have a good week end #koha 15:15 Joubu see you in 3 weeks 15:17 tcohen bye Joubu have a nice vacation 15:26 ztajoli utf-8 Problem in opac-suggestions.pl. I insert a title as 'ωt55 èè teas' and appears the error 15:26 ztajoli Software error: 15:26 ztajoli Cannot decode string with wide characters at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/Encode.pm line 174 15:26 ztajoli I create a 'see also bug' 15:26 ztajoli on sandbox 6 15:30 ztajoli On master [sandbox 8] is not present 16:09 rhcl netsplit - That's kinda unusual 16:10 slef wow netsplit - hi all 16:10 slef Is anyone using Koha to catalogue file boxes of articles and circulate the boxes (not the articles)? Any non-obvious problems with that? Do we still have the 99999-character MARC binary limit? 16:13 slef asking on email too 16:13 gmcharlt slef: the MARC limit would be an issue upon export to ISO2709, but if you don't need to worry about that particular use case, you can go wild 16:14 Dyrcona slef: the 99999 character limit is built-in to the MARC standard. However, a lot of software works around it. 16:14 slef gmcharlt: so we always speak marcxml to zebra now? 16:14 gmcharlt though using analytic cataloging would be an option as well 16:14 gmcharlt slef: yes 16:15 slef thanks... I don't think analytic cataloging is worthwhile because only whole boxes circulate - or am I missing something? 16:15 jcamins slef: I use analytics for that. 16:15 slef argh battery low... brb 16:15 jcamins Depends on the level of description. 16:15 gmcharlt slef: well actually, still need to pass -x to rebuild_zebra 16:15 gmcharlt but as long as you do that, all of the glitches are ironed out TTBOMK 16:16 gmcharlt package-based installs use -x by default 16:16 slef back... I was downstairs because of... 16:16 slef @wunder EGFC 16:16 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found. 16:16 slef @wunder EGYH 16:17 huginn slef: Error: No such location could be found. 16:17 slef huginn: you're annoying me again 16:17 huginn slef: I've exhausted my database of quotes 16:17 slef @wunder EGYM 16:17 huginn slef: The current temperature in Marham, United Kingdom is 24.0°C (5:00 PM BST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling). 16:17 slef hrm, cooler on the airfield than in my house 16:17 slef jcamins: tables of contents 16:19 Dyrcona Does Koha support indexing the 505s? 16:19 slef Dyrcona: probably if we stroke the zebra config correctly, I'd think. 16:20 gmcharlt which it does by default 16:20 Dyrcona OK. I was just curious, 'cause that's what I thought of as "table of contents." 16:20 gmcharlt 505$t => title, 505$r => author, 505$anything else => notes 16:20 Dyrcona We added that in our Evergreen installation. 16:21 slef @marc 505 16:21 huginn slef: The titles of separate works or parts of an item or the table of contents. The field may also contain statements of responsibility and volume numbers or other sequential designations. (Repeatable) [a,g,r,t,u,6,8] 16:21 slef @marc 505 a 16:21 huginn slef: Formatted contents note The format of the note is determined by the relevant cataloging rules. 16:21 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 16:21 slef @marc 505 g 16:21 huginn slef: Miscellaneous information (Repeatable) 16:21 slef @marc 505 u 16:21 huginn slef: Uniform Resource Identifier The Uniform Resource Identifier (URI), for example a URL or URN, which provides electronic access data in a standard syntax. This data can be used for automated access to an electronic item using one of the Internet protocols. (Repeatable) 16:21 slef @marc 505 6 16:21 huginn slef: Linkage See Control Subfields 16:21 slef @marc 505 8 16:21 huginn slef: Field link and sequence number See Control Subfields (Repeatable) 16:22 Dyrcona We added just the 505$t. 16:22 Dyrcona Does koha make use of MARC::Record and friends, or does it do its own thing? 16:22 * Dyrcona seems to be full of questions today. 16:23 gmcharlt it uses MARC::Record and its friends, cousins, nieces etc. 16:23 slef Dyrcona: mostly MARC::Record I think, but there's a table too. 16:23 Dyrcona :) 16:23 Dyrcona Anyway, I'll stop butting in. 16:23 slef no worries 16:25 slef I'll summarise this in an email to koha@ and ask if anyone's got anything to add, if that's OK? 16:25 tcohen does anyone know an SQL syntax validating library? 16:26 tcohen slef: great 16:26 gmcharlt tcohen: https://metacpan.org/pod/SQL::Translator 16:27 gmcharlt or possibly https://metacpan.org/pod/SQL::Statement 16:46 JasonBurds Does anyone use EZProxy to authenticate off of Koha? 16:49 gmcharlt JasonBurds: several folks have, including myself 16:49 gmcharlt simplest is to authenticate via SIP2 16:49 gmcharlt e.g., http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2012-January/031625.html 17:01 JasonBurds Thanks, I'll check it out 17:01 jcamins tcohen++ # for remembering the benadryl 17:04 jcamins Tasty. 17:31 tcohen @later tell eythian can catalyst provide a debian testing node fr jenkins? 17:31 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 19:26 tcohen bye #koha 20:32 tcohen hi there 20:47 tcohen anyone with a bit of CAS setup knowledge? 21:24 tcohen anyone with CAS knowledge? 22:02 tcohen hi eythian 22:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12572: (followup) Small style fix <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e1020015898e0cf72f562361daadd9f7ea723b5> / Bug 12572 - Use jQueryUI Accordion to display message transport types <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=015f77dea1b5ce9bbe7b8f15b6b1242988b006cc> 22:10 tcohen eythian: the test is not failing in our D6 node http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D6/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/ 22:10 tcohen (several others are because of the DBIC version issue)