Time  Nick          Message
23:41 dcook         That's what I was thinking
23:40 wizzyrea      hey that's getting into "warmish"
23:40 wizzyrea      \o/
23:40 dcook         hehe
23:40 eythian       ha! we win!
23:40 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (11:30 AM NZST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
23:40 eythian       @wunder nzwn
23:39 dcook         hmm, that's about accurate
23:39 huginn        dcook: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, New South Wales is 11.0°C (9:00 AM EST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
23:39 dcook         @wunder sydney, australia
23:31 wizzyrea      9 and wind/rain is esh.
23:31 wizzyrea      9 and sunny is downright pleasant.
23:31 wizzyrea      9 is not terrible for winter.
23:30 wizzyrea      jesus crazy
23:05 dcook         hehe
22:49 bag_away_at   HAHAHAHA
22:49 bag_prison    maybe I should change that
22:48 bag_prison    hmm that's because I'm going to play a baseball game in San Quetin this weekend
22:24 bag           that's 113 in F
22:23 bag           no kidding
22:23 rangi         thats just silly
22:23 rangi         45!!!
22:22 huginn        bag: The current temperature in Santa Barbara, California is 24.0°C (2:53 PM PDT on July 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
22:22 bag           @wunder SBA
22:22 bag           that's where mario is from
22:22 huginn        bag: The current temperature in Blythe, California is 45.0°C (2:52 PM PDT on July 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004 hPa (Falling).  Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM MST /8 PM PDT/ this evening...
22:22 bag           @wunder blythe, ca
22:21 huginn        rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
22:21 rangi         @wunder nzwn
21:51 huginn        rangi: The operation succeeded.
21:51 rangi         @later tell dyrcona sounds fine to me, that's pretty similar to what i was thinking its funny how you get halfway into something and can see a much better way :)
21:51 wizzyrea      hehe
21:51 pianohacker   I need to eat lunch
21:51 pianohacker   dammit spelling.
21:51 pianohacker   yup, 50+ comments qualifies as an oddysey
21:50 wizzyrea      that's an odyssey.
21:50 wizzyrea      ah thanks
21:50 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC
21:50 rangi         bug 8753
21:48 wizzyrea      I can't seem to find it.
21:48 wizzyrea      Is there a bug for "forgotten password" functionality?
21:08 cait          thx!
21:08 bgkriegel     cait: I left a note on the bug, on how to fix it
20:44 bgkriegel     variable on opac-user.pl is empty
20:43 cait          thxx for checking!
20:43 cait          ok, i am failing it
20:43 bgkriegel     cait: does not show (Renewed! message)
20:39 martian523    i see
20:39 cait          is server side
20:39 cait          because everything you can do - like looking at error logs
20:39 martian523    ok
20:39 cait          at the server
20:39 cait          i guess you really need it to take a look
20:39 cait          check if the reindexing job runs
20:38 martian523    sorry, i'm not IT, so should I ask IT to do something with the zebra.pl?
20:36 cait          you can query it from reports
20:36 martian523    is it in the backend
20:36 cait          it's the queue for indexing new and changed records
20:36 cait          if they are done
20:35 cait          check the entries in the zebraqueue table
20:35 martian523    re-run the indexing?
20:35 martian523    did not change anything in frameworks
20:34 martian523    nope
20:34 martian523    so something went wrong with the indexing?
20:34 cait          did you change the frameworks?
20:34 cait          not saved is more unlikey
20:34 cait          i think probably not indexed
20:34 martian523    none
20:34 martian523    used titles to search, barcodes to search, authors to search
20:33 martian523    however, when i tried to search for them, it's not there
20:33 martian523    so i imported bibs from oclc, those bibs are there
20:32 cait          are you searching for it?
20:32 cait          how are you looking at it?
20:32 martian523    but when i try to look for it again, it's not there
20:32 martian523    and it appears to be saved
20:32 martian523    just like before, just saves
20:31 cait          you could check what the logs say when you try to save somthing
20:31 cait          given it was installed properly before
20:31 cait          the upgrade shouldn't really change something that explains this
20:31 martian523    IT dept said there were no errors when upgrading
20:30 martian523    it was working fine before the upgrade
20:30 martian523    yes, i want to know what it is
20:30 cait          martian523: i think someting is seriously wrong on your system.
20:25 martian523    all started after upgraded to 3.12 from 3.10
20:25 martian523    what's going on? i'm getting depressed here.
20:25 martian523    new titles not saving, authorities not saving,
20:24 martian523    check disk space, plenty of room
20:24 martian523    i don't know what's happening to my KOHA, everything i saved is not saving
20:19 cait          :)
20:19 bgkriegel     cait: testing, but need to take the boy to english class :) Back in minutes
20:08 cait          i only have one checout
20:08 bgkriegel     ok :)
20:07 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12568 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Improve visibility of successful renewal via opac
20:07 cait          bug 12568
20:07 cait          i don't see the new message :(
20:07 cait          bgkriegel: could you maybe check 12568 for me?
20:07 cait          but i think this is probably easy to fix with a bit of clean up we have in lots of files already
20:07 cait          i think there has been some discussion which databases it should pass on - empty or not
20:06 cait          bgkriegel: not a problem
20:06 bgkriegel     cait: failed 12445. I tested on new db, using the usual one it fails, my bad
20:02 bgkriegel     yeap
19:59 cait          and then fix one central file... instead of lal the installer files
19:59 cait          maybe better to concentrate to get them out of the database first
19:59 cait          i thimk if there is noone asking right now
19:58 bgkriegel     many of which have not shown any activity in a while
19:56 bgkriegel     there are missing descriptions taking into account Pootle languages :)
19:56 bgkriegel     a lot
19:55 cait          hm more missing?
19:54 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9056 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Add more translations to table language_descriptions
19:54 bgkriegel     if not, can try to add missing languages on Bug 9056
19:50 cait          i am noting it on the patch what we saw
19:50 cait          hope to get to your patches soon
19:50 cait          heh
19:49 bgkriegel     hope you can test it :)
19:49 bgkriegel     we need to modify getLanguages() on C4/Languages.pm. Returns an array but in no particular order
19:48 cait          i think i pass ant test your patches soon :)
19:47 bgkriegel     is not ordered
19:47 cait          he put croatian at the bottom of the list - so it shows up last
19:47 cait          hm it's the database order it seems?
19:45 cait          but not consistently so
19:45 bgkriegel     let me see
19:45 cait          it seems mostly sorted by alphabet
19:44 bgkriegel     *saw
19:44 bgkriegel     I see that
19:44 cait          because it's the last on advanced search list now
19:44 cait          bgkriegel: hm how do they sort? the langs?
19:43 cait          i fixed it and trying just that file now on my database
19:43 cait          i will fix :)
19:43 cait          yeah i thnk it's just a double paste
19:42 bgkriegel     oops, yes of course. that was one the missing langs, perhaps double paste
19:41 cait          if you are ok with that
19:41 cait          i could just remove one of the 2 sections
19:40 cait          doubled up?
19:40 cait          the uk-ua doesn't look right
19:40 cait          http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=30042
19:40 bgkriegel     yes
19:40 cait          i am looking at the patch for croatan
19:40 cait          bgkriegel: around?
19:31 bgkriegel     on 14.04.1 LTS (perl v5.18.2) it pass, on 12.04.4 LTS (perl v5.14.2) fails :(
19:31 cait          i am realyl really bad with numbers
19:30 cait          always forget the number
19:30 cait          i hve the newest
19:27 bgkriegel     but fails on ubuntu 12.04
19:26 cait          5.18.2 ubuntu
19:26 cait          test pass for me too
19:26 bgkriegel     oleonard: test pass for perl v5.18.2, fails for perl 5.14.2
19:07 oleonard      I should just submit the stupid patch with the test plan "I don't know, test it or whatever."
19:06 oleonard      Hm for all I know that's why I can't get translate-templates.t to fail
19:01 oleonard      Yes
19:00 cait          adn perl looks the same, instead of prove?
19:00 cait          hm
18:59 pastebot      "oleonard" at pasted "xt/author/valid-templates.t failures" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/118
18:57 cait          did you run it with perl for a test? oftne gives better output
18:57 cait          hm can you paste how it fails?
18:57 oleonard      Can anyone suggest how I might find out why xt/author/valid-templates.t fails for only me?
18:53 tcohen        bye #koha!
18:53 * tcohen      feels relieved Koha on Debian 6 is back to functional
18:51 oleonard      Great.
18:50 cait          brb
18:49 bgkriegel     oleonard: works for me
18:49 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12164: (followup) keys expects a hash parameter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=305224b562cb0c1e7acce4d59ba2f13994f5be8b>
18:48 tcohen        you might be missing some dependency?
18:47 tcohen        it is you :-P
18:47 * nengard     doesn't know what that is ...
18:47 oleonard      According to my test it hasn't worked for ages.
18:47 oleonard      Is it just me or does xt/author/valid-templates.t fail spectacularly?
18:44 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12649 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , Add Croatian language
18:44 bgkriegel     Bug 12649, easy one for QA :)
18:42 * nengard     missed something
18:42 nengard       What's with the awesome jar ...
18:41 nengard       tcohen++
18:41 wahanui       That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, nengard
18:41 nengard       awesome!!!!
18:41 wahanui       a followup is, like, a patch that applies after the other one with the differences
18:41 tcohen        a followup
18:41 tcohen        nengard: i'm about to push a fix
18:41 nengard       tcohen should i run the db update on this new branch? and/or do i need to report a bug for the problem with squeeze?
18:34 cait          no tenough disk space? incomplete dump?
18:34 cait          hm it should really not be possible to happen, it might be something weird
18:33 martian523    i checked the authorities records, not there
18:33 tcohen        martian523: you can look for the authority record on the DB to make sure it is there (we don't delete anything)
18:33 cait          looking at the data in the auth_header table
18:33 cait          i'd check the database first, if you can find the record there
18:33 martian523    or just manually re-add them?
18:33 cait          not finding the record
18:33 cait          it could be related to indexing
18:33 cait          martian523: it's unlikely that koha changed your data
18:33 nengard       should I wait for a bug fix?
18:33 cait          and can stop trying :P
18:33 nengard       Do I not want to run the database updater then?
18:33 martian523    so is there a way to fix the authorities?
18:33 cait          and i am on newest ubuntu - so can't reproduce
18:32 nengard       cool! so it's not me ;) hehe
18:32 cait          jenkins++
18:32 tcohen        no no, current master on *any* Debian Squeezed
18:29 nengard       wait ... so it's my debian install that's broken?
18:29 tcohen        (i mean, i love the way we've set jenkins, so we can spot this stuff)
18:29 tcohen        nengard: there's a problem with Debian Squeeze
18:29 cait          :)
18:28 * tcohen      loves jenkins
18:28 martian523    um....3.10
18:27 tcohen        martian523: you upgraded from version...?
18:26 martian523    and also even though the settings are set to automatically add non-existing authorities, seems like it's not adding
18:25 tcohen        gzip it
18:25 martian523    hi, upgraded to 3.12 a few days ago, found out that some authorities are lost
18:25 nengard       might be too big to email ... we'll see
18:25 nengard       yes
18:25 tcohen        and send it to me please? :-D
18:25 nengard       sure
18:25 tcohen        can u do a db dump before?
18:24 nengard       should I run through the installer process?
18:24 nengard       that got me the installer
18:23 tcohen        git checkout a9c0e18d0ab90143fe343a5a15b833ecde5c13f4 -b testing_acq
18:23 tcohen        try
18:23 tcohen        nengard:
18:22 nengard       This is perl, v5.10.1 (*) built for x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi
18:21 nengard       let me check the perl version - how do i get that
18:21 nengard       it's a VM installed locally
18:21 tcohen        also, what perl version/environment are you working on?
18:20 tcohen        or is just a development db?
18:20 tcohen        is your db information private?
18:20 tcohen        nengard: no
18:16 nengard_      do you think i should clear out acq data?
18:13 tcohen        "(followup) MoveOrders description corrected" ¿
18:11 cait          what's the last commit with git log?
18:10 cait          i can't reproduce the problem
18:09 nengard       so it looks like i have the most recent master
18:02 nengard_phone nengard@kohavm:~/kohaclone$
18:02 nengard_phone nengard@kohavm:~/kohaclone$ git fetch origin ; git diff origin/master
17:59 tcohen        git fetch origin ; git diff origin/master
17:58 tcohen        git diff origin/master ?
17:56 nengard_phone jsut the error
17:56 nengard_phone i'm not presented with the staff client log in message
17:56 nengard_phone I did a fetch, I went to my main staff client url to log in and can't log in - i see that error
17:56 tcohen        page/action/smth?
17:56 nengard_phone http://paste.koha-community.org/117
17:56 tcohen        nengard_phone: could you explain the context of the error?
17:55 nengard_phone nothing to pull
17:55 nengard_phone it's saying i'm already up to date
17:54 cait          nengard_phone: it works ok for me
17:54 tcohen        nengard_phone: how do u reproduce that?
17:54 cait          tcohen just pushed something, maybe it overlapped
17:53 cait          nengard_phone: try again a git fetch/pull
17:52 cait          let me check
17:52 nengard_phone and then went to my staff client url
17:52 nengard_phone so i did a fetch
17:51 nengard_phone when i try to get to my staff client
17:51 cait          where do you see it?
17:51 cait          nengard_phone: hm that looks acq
17:51 tcohen        almost
17:51 cait          tcohen: arund still? :)
17:50 nengard_phone I don't see a missing module message like usual
17:50 nengard_phone http://paste.koha-community.org/116
17:49 nengard_phone hi all, i get this error after doing a fetch just now, what am i missing/did i do wrong?
17:47 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12164: (followup) MoveOrders description corrected <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=44343dc1325051993d07c1d8e794c3d2fd67baa4> / Bug 12164: Fix decimal number display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=359590f36a2ca656fb3b4c4fc63cc915cee50794> / Bug 12164: Fix some typos <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b64490cb48011eb6ed9958fb0
17:34 jcamins       oleonard: it's checking for irony.
17:30 * cait        is having dinner, but can look when the keyboard is a bit safer
17:30 cait          do the comments in the file tell you something?
17:30 cait          hmm
17:21 * oleonard    tried mangling a template and running xt/author/translatable-templates.t but it still passed
17:04 antcwts       the error is output to the screen
17:03 oleonard      I don't know what that means antcwts but it might help if you had more details about the error. Was it output to the screen? Did you find it in the logs?
17:00 antcwts       I tried to upgrade from 3.12 to 3.14, but during the Koha database update, an error "DBD::mysql::db do failed" error occured.  Anyone has the same problem?
17:00 oleonard      Looks like xt/author/show-template-structure.pl is only relevant for HTML::Template::Pro. Is there any reason to keep it?
16:49 Ant           I tried to upgrade from 3.12 to 3.14, but during the Koha database update, an error "DBD::mysql::db do failed" occured.  Anyone know how to fix that?
16:25 cait          have to run :) bye all
16:25 cait          if else for selected=selected or not selected
16:24 cait          oleonard: maybe the old problem with nested tt inside of html tag?
16:08 ztajoli       Bye
16:07 oleonard      How could one trigger a fail of xt/author/translatable-templates.t?
16:02 ztajoli       I fill a bug about it after a test on master
16:02 ztajoli       But probably a general problem of sandbox.
16:01 ztajoli       Still a problem on printing basket group with non latin diacritics.
16:00 ztajoli       Hi, finish to test ACQ.
15:54 dpavlin       I'm also getting Unknown column 'lastname' in 'field list' at /srv/koha//C4/Patroncards/Lib.pm line 108
15:50 dpavlin       I have somehow to persuade patron cards generator to work with borrower attributes (which we are using) and after that I will try to test it.
15:49 vfernandes    on koha-conf: <font type="H"  >/usr/share/fonts/truetype/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf</font>
15:47 vfernandes    bye Joubu
15:47 Joubu         see you tomorrow!
15:47 Joubu         maybe it's wrong lead, just what you described mades me remember this bug
15:47 vfernandes    i'm using helvetica
15:46 dpavlin       which *might* have utf-8 characters on your computer, but don't have it on printer
15:46 dpavlin       if you don't have ttf fonts defined, than pdf will fallback to built-in fonts
15:45 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12194 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Some fonts don't work on printing label
15:45 Joubu         bug 12194 ?
15:45 vfernandes    looks like a problem with the Font
15:45 vfernandes    Joubu : I don't have problem with diacrits for now... the caracters are appearing in the PDF with no ttf configuration, except when printed in paper
15:45 dpavlin       so it's mine to fix, right? ;-)
15:44 Joubu         bug 8375 has been pushed to 3.16 ;)
15:44 vfernandes    3.16 not
15:44 vfernandes    Joubu : 3.12 almost uses the same code and it's working
15:43 Joubu         I raised some issues in a note at the end of the bug report
15:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Master , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
15:43 Joubu         vfernandes: I have to go, but take a look at bug 8375
15:41 dpavlin       but, you don't have same problem, maybe my configuration is broken (we are not using patron cards, we are printing directly on RFID cards using alternative method)
15:40 dpavlin       whey I try to create patron cards. (error is inside pdf file which isn't pdf)
15:40 dpavlin       Can't use string (&quot;1&quot;) as a HASH ref while &quot;strict refs&quot; in use at /srv/koha//C4/Patroncards/Patroncard.pm line 102.
15:40 dpavlin       I'm getting application error
15:39 * dpavlin     checking
15:39 vfernandes    those methods were modified to load ttf file
15:38 vfernandes    i've compared 3.12 version with 3.16 and besides Font method and StrWidth of Creators/PDF.pm everything is the same
15:37 vfernandes    besides that when printing a correct patron card the characters aren't being printed...
15:36 vfernandes    yes... somehow the patron card is being generated right without ttf but wrong with ttf configuration
15:36 dpavlin       oh, patron cards....
15:35 dpavlin       vfernandes: you didn't miss me (yet), but I have to re-read irc log to figure out what is driving you crazy :-)
15:35 cait          vfernandes: now you missed dpavlin - he is the expert
15:34 vfernandes    this is driving me crazy
15:31 * oleonard    is looking at INSTALL.opensuse "for Installing Koha 3.0.0 on openSUSE 11.3"
15:31 oleonard      I wonder if after a certain number of version changes we should remove INSTALL files which haven't been updated
15:30 vfernandes    cait : i'm still getting the "bug"
15:27 * oleonard    gives ashimema a big hearty American-style whack on the back for encouragement
15:24 ashimema      :)
15:24 cait          i am happy :)
15:24 cait          you just past that ldap bug
15:24 ashimema      my qa and signoff stats for this month are pityful.. sorry guys
15:21 cait          i thought you would know maybe where his problem was
15:21 cait          vfernandes: had a question about the .tff settings
15:12 dpavlin       cait: back at keyboard
15:03 reiveune      bye
14:55 cait          and doing all the hard work really
14:55 cait          ashimema++ for having lots of patience
14:54 ashimema      cait++ for having patience with the shibboleth bug and giving me lots of followups
14:53 cait          gmcharlt++ making me laugh on twitter
14:31 ztajoli       Ok, I finish to test on ACQ then I try to test on a debian with perl 5.14
14:30 ztajoli       you can compile all locales if you want
14:29 ztajoli       in the second step you select one
14:29 ztajoli       in the first step you 'compile' locales
14:29 ztajoli       locale setup is done with "dpkg-reconfigure locales"
14:28 Joubu         sandboxes use fr_FR.UTF-8
14:26 Joubu         I have LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
14:26 ztajoli       when you install debian you need to 'compile one or locales, and after select one.
14:25 Joubu         What do you mean?
14:25 ztajoli       And do you have complied all locales ?
14:25 Joubu         ztajoli: debian testing
14:24 ztajoli       ?
14:24 ztajoli       Which version (of distro)
14:24 ztajoli       Joubu: do you use perl 5.18 on Debian or Ubuntu ?
14:23 huginn        cait: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
14:23 wahanui       http://xkcd.com/1172/
14:23 cait          @quote get 123
14:23 cait          rhcl: i thik that's reasonable - but libraries are all different :)
14:18 rhcl          set to the length of the longest interval
14:18 rhcl          cait: we do have bookmobile routes with differing time periods, but we only use one bookmobile checkout period
14:05 cait          yep, it solved the problem
14:05 bgkriegel     is your poedit updated?
14:05 bgkriegel     hi cait :)
14:04 cait          hi bgkriegel
14:03 bgkriegel     ok :)
14:03 tcohen        wb oleonard!!
14:02 oleonard      Hi all
14:02 vfernandes    bgkriegel : patron cards module does use ttf fonts
14:02 vfernandes    in my boss computer (Mac OS) the PDF doesn't have the patron image but the patron fields are corretly printed
14:02 bgkriegel     but patron cards does not use ttf fonts, I think
14:01 vfernandes    in my computer the PDF with no ttf configuration is corretly generated but when printed the patron fields (like surname, firstname) aren't printed
14:00 bgkriegel     and you said it happens after setting ttf fonts?
14:00 vfernandes    in my computer (Ubuntu) the PDF with ttf configuration is generated only with patron image
13:59 vfernandes    i don't know what to do....
13:59 vfernandes    *yes...
13:59 vfernandes    is patron image
13:58 bgkriegel     vfernandes: you mean patron image?
13:57 vfernandes    i've tried in another computer and PDF don't open the image...
13:56 vfernandes    patron cards module is not working properly in koha 3.16.1
13:51 Joubu         { λλλ => "λλλ" } becomes { ??? => "λλλ" }
13:51 Joubu         ztajoli: no I don't. But when I took a look at the other bug, it seems that perl 5.10 does not like to use special chars as hash keys
13:48 ztajoli       Do you have any idea on unicode/utf-8 differenct between perl 5.10 and 5.18 ?
13:47 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
13:47 ztajoli       I confirm, the bug is present also on master, not connect with bug 11944
13:41 ztajoli       OK, wait a little
13:39 Joubu         ztajoli: No sorry, I cannot upgrade a sandbox
13:38 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
13:38 ztajoli       I test now the situation on a master without bug 11944
13:37 ztajoli       Joubu: is it possible to test with perl 5.14? The debian stable (whezzy) use 5.14
13:34 cait          or trying here agian a bit later if noone knows
13:34 cait          mailing list maybe
13:33 vfernandes    cait the problem is that I need this working for tomorrow
13:32 cait          better to put it on a bug for the lable module
13:32 cait          vfernandes: i won't be able to help much
13:31 Joubu         ztajoli++
13:31 vfernandes    I can sent you a PDF with the card
13:29 cait          you checked the the font exists? with the characters you need?
13:29 vfernandes    but when I try to print the chracters aren't printed
13:28 vfernandes    something is strange because with no ttf definition the card appears fine in PDF
13:27 cait          hm i don't kwno enough about the cardnumber printing, maybe a bug report
13:26 vfernandes    cait: characters which are from fields of database <surname> <firstname>
13:23 cait          dpavlin: still around?
13:23 cait          vfernandes: fields or characters?
13:21 ashimema      very odd
13:21 ashimema      Joubu ignore that.. somthing must have been cahced.. it hits opac-search now.
13:21 vfernandes    with no .ttf definition in koha-conf.xml the fields are printed in PDF but when printed on paper don't appear :O
13:20 vfernandes    one question: why with .ttf correctly defined the fields don't appear in PDF?
13:20 vfernandes    hi people!
13:20 rhcl          person when she gets in
13:19 rhcl          hummm, I think we just have a single "bookmobile checkout period", but I can check with our bookmobile
13:19 cait          because i think they run different routs, so some bus stops get visited more often than others
13:19 cait          rhcl: the problem here as that they wanted different loan periods depending on the bus stip
13:19 rhcl          which matches the schedule of the bookmobile stops, and which differs from the inhouse checkout period
13:18 rhcl          cait: not quite sure I follow you, but for our bookmobile we do indeed have a checkout period...
13:18 cait          pm
13:18 matts         yep
13:17 cait          could you take a look?
13:17 cait          looking not so good
13:17 cait          trying cas again
13:17 cait          and then the loan period will differe from the bus stop before, because you might only be there every 4 weeks... or every 2 weeks, depending on routes
13:17 matts         cait, yep, around
13:17 cait          you say i am at bus stop x
13:16 cait          yeah
13:16 rhcl          bus stop management?
13:16 cait          matts: around?
13:16 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12650 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , UTF-8: ACQ, problems after saved a new budget
13:16 ztajoli       UTF-8 problems on ACQ. Description in bug 12650
13:14 ashimema      but not if i'm not
13:13 ashimema      I can trigger the debugger in opac-search.pl if i'm logged in..
13:13 ashimema      that's odd.
13:13 ashimema      oh hang on..
13:13 cait          for the library bus
13:13 cait          someone heard about bus stop management? :)
13:13 cait          ashimema: thx, added sth about that
13:10 ashimema      wondering if you'de ever come accross that
13:09 ashimema      except I can't seem to trigger it to run on opac-search.pl
13:09 ashimema      seems to be working fine for me..
13:09 ashimema      yup..
13:08 Joubu         the Vdebug vim plugin?
13:08 Joubu         ashimema: I can try, which debugger?
13:06 ashimema      multiple branches cait?
13:06 ashimema      Joubu.. you about and able to advise on using the debugger a bit?
13:06 cait          i have family accounts and the age restriction on records... but running out of ideas a bit :)
13:05 cait          hm can somen help me out with some 'public library' features in Koha?
12:58 ashimema      opac-search.pl seems to manage to skip auth.pm altogether somehow?
12:58 ashimema      erm..
12:55 matts         ok !
12:53 cait          matts: not back to cas yet - but can log in with shibboleth now, still needs bit more testing
12:53 cait          ztajoli++
12:50 ashimema      but we're really close now.
12:50 ashimema      sh'es finding me followups ;)
12:50 ashimema      well.. more like 'in testing' tcohen.
12:49 matts         cait, you can log in but it's not ok ?
12:49 ztajoli       Hi to all. Test of serials done and the module is OK for UTF-8
12:47 cait          but i can log in !
12:47 cait          not quite there yet
12:47 tcohen        you've got shibboleth patches tested
12:46 cait          ashimema++ and matts++
12:46 cait          tcohen: î didn't do anything
12:45 ashimema      my shib stuff gets around that..
12:45 ashimema      yeah.. that's exactly what I thought.. it just disables modal login..
12:44 matts         Joubu, yes, I was.
12:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12046 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Authentication using CAS - bootstrap
12:43 Joubu         matts: Were you thinking about bug 12046?
12:43 huginn        ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 31.2°C (1:43 PM BST on July 24, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
12:43 ashimema      @wunder stevenage, uk
12:43 tcohen        brrrr
12:43 huginn        tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 3.4°C (9:40 AM ART on July 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
12:43 tcohen        @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:42 tcohen        cait++
12:41 ashimema      no worries.. it makes sense now
12:40 matts         ashimema, about the boostrap fix, I did not look at this precisely, I don't know how it has been done
12:40 matts         thx
12:40 ashimema      I'll take a look in a tic Matts.
12:40 ashimema      it disables the modal login such that a 'Login to your account' will always open up opac-user.pl as pper pre bootstrap
12:40 matts         I've tried to be as accurate as possible about the description of the problem
12:39 huginn        04Bug 12631: normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , Inventory: fix "wrong place" and "item not scanned" statuses
12:39 matts         On another topic, I've submitted a patch about inventory : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12631
12:39 ashimema      i don't like it ;)
12:39 ashimema      oh I see how the cas patch does it..
12:37 ashimema      I'll grab that then :)
12:37 ashimema      coolios..
12:37 cait          i will be back in a few
12:36 cait          matts: i am only aware of the one cas patch right now
12:36 matts         I saw a patch to fix Cas Authentication with bootstrap at biblibre, but I don't know if it went communautary already
12:35 cait          matts: i have the same impression :)
12:34 matts         correct me if wrong
12:34 matts         yep, I think template->param in Auth.pm is opac-wide
12:34 ashimema      lol.. there may well be.. i just haven't found them yet ;)
12:33 wahanui       normally is file permissions
12:33 cait          normally
12:33 cait          in Auth.pm
12:33 matts         Aren't there opac-wide variables already ?
12:32 ashimema      (i have a simlar shibAuthentication one)
12:32 ashimema      any idea's how to make that casAuthentication template variable a global template veriable for the opac?
12:32 ashimema      but in bootstrap now you 'should' be able to login from pretty much any page.
12:31 ashimema      I reckon you won't be able to login via cas on any page other than opac-main or opac-user
12:31 ashimema      I tihnk we're both going to come up against the same bug matts..
12:31 matts         Yes, please let me know if it works (with the patch :))
12:31 ashimema      whilst we're talking cas/shib..
12:31 cait          i will try again
12:31 matts         \o/ :)
12:30 cait          it didn't run the code with the patch...
12:30 cait          ashimema fixed it - ashimema++
12:30 ashimema      haha.. you're gonna love this matts/
12:30 cait          matts: please don't laugh... but turns out my gitified installation was not properly gitified
12:30 matts         cait, really ? What was it ?
12:30 cait          matts: i found the problem with the cas patch
12:30 matts         Idealy, the admin should be able to define a chain (cas -> shib -> local, local -> shib -> cas, or whatever)
12:30 cait          should hopefully be ok
12:29 cait          ashimema: for cas you also have to clickon a link and know what you do
12:29 ashimema      tihnk your probably one of the few out there that has touched both ;)
12:29 ashimema      I'll fix it in my patch then.. thanks for the opinion..
12:29 ashimema      hmm.. your right.. it 'should' work.
12:29 matts         Given the state of the Auth API, yes, it will be
12:29 ashimema      but builing the fallback chain for shib/cas/local could be 'messy'
12:28 ashimema      at the moment my shib work falls back to local login.. just like the cas stuff does..
12:28 matts         as long as the user knows where to authenticate (cas or shib)
12:28 matts         not tested, but it could work
12:28 matts         hmmm
12:27 ashimema      ?
12:27 ashimema      can you envisage a case where someone would enable both shibboleth and cas authentication.
12:27 ashimema      matts.. you're doing the cas stuff right?
12:27 Joubu         dpavlin: Croate
12:27 wahanui       privet, matts
12:27 matts         hello
12:27 matts         ashimema, yep
12:26 ashimema      matts you about?
12:25 dpavlin       yes
12:25 cait          dpavlin: serials? :)
12:25 dpavlin       yap, we just need it because we don't see our language in acquisitions...
12:24 cait          i think moving it out of the dabase (with duplication of the file in the web installers...) would be really nice
12:24 cait          :)
12:24 dpavlin       cait: yes, I noted that I will need to review this patch one 12017 gets in :-)
12:23 cait          dpavlin: i just asked bgkriegel to rebase 12017 for me, is it a big conflict?
12:22 cait          what's the marc language code? :P
12:22 cait          Kroatisch
12:19 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12649 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add Croatian language
12:19 dpavlin       German and French speaking peope: how do you say Croatian (as language) in your languages? I need it for bug 12649
11:38 Dyrcona       Be back in a bit.
11:38 Dyrcona       And, I really dislike what Google Drive does to ODF.
11:37 huginn        Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
11:37 Dyrcona       @later tell rangi This is what I plan to do to NCIPServer: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NJRhhigysC70t75SbJ-N2rPPh_-TJa9490i4ZfnA6Mg/edit?usp=sharing
11:06 ashimema      anyone fancy testing shibboleth whilst I have the pen in hand?
07:41 cait          good morning #koha
07:02 wahanui       goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
07:02 dcook         night all
07:02 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12477 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , We need better ways to manage MARC Frameworks
07:02 dcook         Would love more feedback on bug 12477 if anyone is so inclined :)
07:00 wahanui       salut, alex_a
07:00 alex_a        bonjour
07:00 dcook         ;)
07:00 dcook         Not that you're not lovely
07:00 * dcook       thinks it's about time to go home
06:59 dcook         heya France folks
06:55 reiveune      hello
06:43 marcelr       hi dcook
06:43 dcook         yo marcelr
06:42 marcelr       hi #koha
06:23 cait          hm mostly
06:22 dcook         good morning so far?
06:22 cait          yo dcook
06:20 dcook         yo cait
05:04 eythian       no (well sometimes), it was mostly the bear typo
05:04 dcook         eythian: Is it sarsaparilla down here?
05:03 dcook         OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown is a remarkably obtuse system preference...
05:03 eythian       your canadian is showing
05:03 dcook         Luckily, I survived. The keyboard did not.
05:03 dcook         rootbeer*
05:03 dcook         I learned that lesson years ago with a large glass of rootbear...
05:03 dcook         hehe
04:59 wizzyrea      the koha channel, keeping keyboard vendors in business since 1999
04:59 wizzyrea      what if someone had a beverage!
04:59 wizzyrea      YOU GUYS stop being so funny.
04:59 eythian       It's in Pennsylvania
04:58 dcook         Touche
04:58 dcook         ...
04:58 eythian       it could be worse though: "As with the nearby towns of Bird-in-Hand, Blue Ball, and Paradise, Intercourse is a popular site for tourists..."
04:58 dcook         But what are the chances?!
04:58 eythian       most likely
04:58 dcook         Which...echos Arthur C. Clarke's novel "Rendevous with Rama" in a way which must be coincidence...
04:57 dcook         Also a town called Endeavour really close to a town called Rama
04:57 dcook         There's a Kandahar in Saskatchewan too
04:57 dcook         Oh, Sasktchewan
04:57 * dcook       tries to remember
04:57 dcook         lol
04:57 * wizzyrea    hopes she never called you "squirt"
04:57 dcook         I think they may have all already been made once upon a time
04:56 wizzyrea      there are so many impossibly naughty jokes to be made there.
04:56 wizzyrea      clearly.
04:56 wizzyrea      you win.
04:56 dcook         My mum is from the town of Climax :p
04:56 wizzyrea      it was a big joke to drive past the faucett turnoff.
04:56 dcook         Fairly close to Moose Jaw too
04:56 wizzyrea      I was born near a town called Faucett
04:56 dcook         Not far from Eyebrow
04:56 dcook         It's also the lake where you'll find the town of Elbow
04:53 dcook         I think that's supposed to be farther west though
04:53 wahanui       I know. That's why I said it.
04:53 dcook         Very true
04:53 wizzyrea      could be worse, you could be a sasquatch.
04:53 dcook         :D
04:53 wizzyrea      that is perfect.
04:53 dcook         The lake actually is part of the river Saskatchewan ;)
04:53 wahanui       i guess dcook is the Last Saskatchewan Pirate
04:53 wizzyrea      dcook?
04:53 wizzyrea      dcook
04:52 wahanui       okay, eythian.
04:52 eythian       wahanui: dcook is also the Last Saskatchewan Pirate
04:51 dcook         Precisely.
04:51 eythian       http://youtu.be/DuGGNsE3_8Y <-- this'd be you then
04:50 dcook         It's Saskatchewan. We had to make our own fun :p.
04:50 dcook         My grandparents have a little sailboat on a lake back home. In the summers, we used to competitively spit cherry pits while sailing.
04:49 * dcook       misses his sisters
04:49 dcook         I've never thought about doing that until now
04:49 dcook         ...
04:49 eythian       or save up a bunch and machine gun them out
04:48 dcook         Although cherry pits are good as you can spit them somewhat majestically...
04:48 * dcook       dislikes seeds
04:48 dcook         The one I had the other day only had one seed all together. BUt on has had...6 alrady
04:47 dcook         Hmm, maybe
04:46 eythian       maybe it's seasonal though, depending on where they came from
04:46 eythian       I don't think our ones usually do either
04:46 * dcook       didn't even know mandarins could have seeds in them before moving to Oz
04:45 * dcook       wonders how this one mandarin slice has 3 seeds in it..
04:45 dcook         d'accord
04:45 eythian       sounds like the plugin should be improved
04:43 dcook         Ah, but it only returns branchname?
04:42 * dcook       thinks there is a Template Toolkit plugin for branches...
04:40 dcook         I was wondering how we managed to provide it on every page of the OPAC...
04:39 wizzyrea      oy.
04:38 dcook         wizzyrea: yep
04:38 wizzyrea      the one in the search header?
04:38 eythian       that's terrible
04:38 dcook         Dang, we rely on C4::Auth to provide the branches loop for the branches pull down in the OPAC...
04:36 wizzyrea      http://instagram.com/chelebanks
04:35 dcook         Hmm, the spares are IDEs...a SATA/IDE to USB cable might do the trick...
04:35 wizzyrea      (and/or HDR)
04:35 wizzyrea      that particular person's photos (the first) are always extremely vividly colour corrected
04:34 wizzyrea      http://instagram.com/p/q0RgqTAbBB/?modal=true not on this one though, if you can see it.
04:33 eythian       the colours have been manipulated a fair bit, I think
04:33 wizzyrea      ^
04:33 eythian       it's the bucket fountain
04:33 wizzyrea      Cuba street in Wellington, earlier today
04:33 jcamins       wizzyrea: yes I can. What is it?
04:32 dcook         jcamins: Yeah, that's a downside
04:32 dcook         Dang, mwave has some cheap docks...
04:32 jcamins       dcook: yeah, but I don't have an office.
04:32 wizzyrea      http://instagram.com/p/q0I7qOoAd5/?modal=false (can you see that?)
04:32 dcook         (preferably with you not inside it of course)
04:32 dcook         jcamins: You never know when your building might go up in flames
04:31 dcook         The older one might just need a new life...
04:31 dcook         Well...maybe the newer one
04:31 dcook         begging to be used for that purpose
04:31 dcook         I have a few spare hard drives at home just begging for it
04:31 dcook         eythian: Yeah, that's what I've been thinking of doing
04:30 jcamins       I swap out two external hard drives, but so far I haven't been keeping one of them off-site.
04:29 eythian       Periodically I swap them between home and work
04:29 eythian       dcook: a pair of harddrives and a harddrive dock is what I use.
04:28 dcook         I had the grilled cheese, but not the mango lassi. I do have mango in the freezer at home from last mango season though...
04:28 dcook         jcamins: om nom nom
04:28 dcook         We do off-site backups at work, but I need to know that my cat photos will live on forever
04:27 * dcook       needs to do off-site personal backups
04:27 jcamins       Grilled cheese and mango lassi. The natural choice for 12:30am.
04:27 dcook         It just sounds cooler when you say it in French :p
04:27 dcook         If I recall correctly, the French for iPod is iPod
04:26 wizzyrea      i mean, of course there is
04:25 wizzyrea      ...there's a maori word for ipad.
04:24 wizzyrea      yeah same
04:24 eythian       Which reminds me, I need to rotate them.
04:24 eythian       yeah, I have my own on and offsite backups.
04:22 wizzyrea      but I don't keep all of my things in google or trust them to keep them backed up
04:22 wizzyrea      though I'm not much better, all my mobile-things are google ones :/
04:21 wizzyrea      but vendor of hardware.
04:21 wizzyrea      of ebooks
04:21 wizzyrea      not vendor
04:21 eythian       either that, or the "two types of people: those who keep backups, and those who don't yet" syndrome
04:21 wizzyrea      also too much trust in one vendor.
04:21 eythian       that's a failure to think ahead going on there
04:20 eythian       erk yeah
04:19 wizzyrea      http://thebookpushers.com/2014/07/22/the-tragic-demise-of-an-e-library/
04:18 eythian       looks like I never actually clicked on "checkout"
04:18 eythian       I thought I had a lost order from book depository
04:18 eythian       huh
04:18 wizzyrea      sec I'll get it for you
04:18 eythian       reading what thing?
04:18 wizzyrea      geeze.
04:18 wizzyrea      yeah, after reading that thing definitely keep backups with an airgap.
04:18 eythian       yeah
04:18 jcamins       I'd use it for transmitting books to my phone.
04:17 jcamins       But I wouldn't store my library on it.
04:17 jcamins       eythian: that seems interesting, and I might try it.
04:17 eythian       I have been quite liking google books, I can throw epubs into it from my desktop and they appear on my phone and tablet
04:17 jcamins       That's like relying on MS software for access to servers.
04:16 wizzyrea      yeah that seems daft.
04:16 jcamins       I have a Mac, and I really like it, but the chances of me using an Apple product for my ebooks are nil.
04:16 jcamins       Why on earth would you use an Apple product for your ebooks?
03:59 wizzyrea      (I used to use macs a lot. But not now.)
03:59 eythian       Windows has been pretty good, I think I started testing it on XP and it's worked solidly til now.
03:59 wizzyrea      osx isn't much better than windows these days
03:51 dcook         :(
03:51 eythian       It's a bit of a pain, every release of OSX breaks something new.
03:50 dcook         Cross-platform stuff is handy...
03:50 eythian       and macos and linux
03:50 dcook         You support an app that can be installed on Windows?
03:50 dcook         :o
03:49 eythian       mine gets used less than once a year, and it's usually just from when I've modified the windows builder/installer config for an application of mine.
03:49 eythian       yeah
03:49 dcook         Or...you could just have a free OS
03:49 dcook         I guess this way you could reset it as needed
03:48 * dcook       wonders why they wouldn't keep the period 5 times as long and not have the fiddly weird bits
03:48 dcook         But to a maximum of 5 times or something
03:48 dcook         I think mine is blue and tells me how I could reset it via the CLI
03:48 dcook         hehe
03:47 eythian       it also has a black background and you can't change it.
03:45 dcook         eythian: Interesting. I have a windows 7 VM for testing as well. It's expired but so far I haven't experienced any consequences. I must not have had it open long enough for it to shut down...
03:45 dcook         Technically, RDA might be ready?
03:44 huginn        wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
03:44 wizzyrea      @quote help
03:44 wizzyrea      hrm.
03:44 wizzyrea      gn
03:44 huginn        wizzyrea: I've exhausted my database of quotes
03:44 wizzyrea      @quote delete 308
03:44 wizzyrea      there we go
03:44 huginn        wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #309 added.
03:44 wizzyrea      @quote add eythian: Keep in mind that Microsoft isn't a software company. They're an abuse company. They just use software as a means to deliver that abuse.
03:44 wizzyrea      @quote add eythian: Keep in mind that Microsoft isn't a software company. They're an abuse company. They just use software as a means to deliver that abuse.
03:43 wizzyrea      but I"ll add the complete thing.
03:43 wizzyrea      it's all a punchline.
03:43 eythian       wizzyrea: you missed the punchline of that quote.
03:43 wizzyrea      \o/
03:42 huginn        wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #308 added.
03:42 wizzyrea      @quote add eythian: keep in mind that Microsoft isn't a software company. They're an abuse company.
03:42 eythian       Fine for testing
03:42 eythian       I have a windows 7 VM I use for testing things in, it was an RC release from Microsoft. Now I think it runs for an hour then tells me it's not genuine and shuts down.
03:42 dcook         Yeah, Canada has heaps of web-based clients for doing tax
03:41 * dcook       almost thought about buying Windows solely for the purpose of doing his taxes
03:41 eythian       Yeah, we don't tend to use those.
03:41 dcook         I think Australia might have a web client now for doing taxes and not just a Windows app...
03:41 dcook         Of course, then you have organizations that only provide their product for Windows.
03:40 dcook         It certainly feels that way sometimes.
03:40 eythian       They just use software as a means to deliver that abuse.
03:40 eythian       They're an abuse company.
03:40 eythian       Keep in mind that Microsoft isn't a software company.
03:40 eythian       You're using Outlook.
03:39 * dcook       thinks there must be a trickster god somewhere or something who is teasing us
03:39 dcook         I swear reality doesn't need to be as strange as it is
03:38 dcook         :S
03:37 eythian       dcook: seems to be the case, yeah
03:26 dcook         Whereas Outlook puts the newest at the start of the References string?
03:26 dcook         So the References should have the first reference at the top and each new one should go at the end?
03:26 dcook         Yeah, it was almost a decade ago at this point. I wonder if that library still uses Eudora...
03:26 * dcook       looks at the date
03:25 eythian       Neither, not since the first couple of years at uni
03:25 dcook         Wow, I haven't used Eudora in years...
03:22 eythian       and Paul A is using a ridiculously old version of Eudora that should be sent to the server farm.
03:21 eythian       Basically, I'm extrapolating from "everyone's works except Paul A's and people using Outlook"
03:21 eythian       it sorts your References: entries backwards.
03:12 dcook         Although now it appears to have lost the Thread-Index...
03:11 dcook         References looks a bit funny, but it's all there when I try it
03:10 dcook         Hmm, no idea
03:00 dcook         Hmm
02:56 eythian       when they are there, they're wrong.
02:56 eythian       But they sometimes are there
02:56 eythian       yeah, I can't see them there at all.
02:55 dcook         But I don't see them in the message that you sent to me
02:55 dcook         I see "References" and "In-Reply-To" in the headers when I replied to my Gmail email
02:55 dcook         Hmm weird
02:51 eythian       emailed, the attachment should contain full headers.
02:50 dcook         My current example was no goood
02:50 dcook         Actually, yeah, if you could send it
02:50 eythian       dcook: sure, one moment
02:49 dcook         All right. Let's see..
02:48 dcook         Actually, I guess I could to that myself with my personal email..
02:48 dcook         eythian: Could you show me what my outgoing email headers look like?
02:47 dcook         (in Outlook 2013 :P)
02:47 dcook         Now if only I could fix the threading
02:47 dcook         eythian: fixed
02:45 dcook         [off] gmcharlt: Nah, they're just often the first password in a hacker's dictionary
02:44 dcook         I think I shall change that
02:44 dcook         Hmm, apparently I do for replies
02:44 dcook         Do I?
02:44 dcook         Do I/
02:42 eythian       dcook: you type in blue
02:40 pianohacker   hit and run karmal
02:40 pianohacker   eythian++
02:35 gmcharlt      [off] dcook: do I need to change the combination of my luggage?
02:35 gmcharlt      eythian++
01:42 tcohen        eythian++
01:39 eythian       s/ing/ed/
01:38 eythian       3.16.02 packages uploading now.
00:53 dcook         [off] I suppose it doesn't need to be super secure, but still...it's just a bit awkward
00:52 dcook         [off] Man...LAC sure gives out some really bad passwords for their Z39.50...
00:09 Ant           thanks eythian, i got the DBIx module done
00:09 dcook         :)
00:09 tcohen        it is!
00:08 dcook         That's so exciting
00:08 dcook         About halfway then?
00:05 tcohen        19 weeks
00:04 dcook         How far along now?
00:04 dcook         Awesome :)
00:04 tcohen        yes
00:04 dcook         tcohen: ultrasound?