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23:41 dcook That's what I was thinking
23:40 wizzyrea hey that's getting into "warmish"
23:40 wizzyrea \o/
23:40 dcook hehe
23:40 eythian ha! we win!
23:40 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (11:30 AM NZST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady).
23:40 eythian @wunder nzwn
23:39 dcook hmm, that's about accurate
23:39 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, New South Wales is 11.0°C (9:00 AM EST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
23:39 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
23:31 wizzyrea 9 and wind/rain is esh.
23:31 wizzyrea 9 and sunny is downright pleasant.
23:31 wizzyrea 9 is not terrible for winter.
23:30 wizzyrea jesus crazy
23:05 dcook hehe
22:49 bag_away_at HAHAHAHA
22:49 bag_prison maybe I should change that
22:48 bag_prison hmm that's because I'm going to play a baseball game in San Quetin this weekend
22:24 bag that's 113 in F
22:23 bag no kidding
22:23 rangi thats just silly
22:23 rangi 45!!!
22:22 huginn bag: The current temperature in Santa Barbara, California is 24.0°C (2:53 PM PDT on July 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
22:22 bag @wunder SBA
22:22 bag that's where mario is from
22:22 huginn bag: The current temperature in Blythe, California is 45.0°C (2:52 PM PDT on July 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 8 PM MST /8 PM PDT/ this evening...
22:22 bag @wunder blythe, ca
22:21 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on July 25, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
22:21 rangi @wunder nzwn
21:51 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
21:51 rangi @later tell dyrcona sounds fine to me, that's pretty similar to what i was thinking its funny how you get halfway into something and can see a much better way :)
21:51 wizzyrea hehe
21:51 pianohacker I need to eat lunch
21:51 pianohacker dammit spelling.
21:51 pianohacker yup, 50+ comments qualifies as an oddysey
21:50 wizzyrea that's an odyssey.
21:50 wizzyrea ah thanks
21:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC
21:50 rangi bug 8753
21:48 wizzyrea I can't seem to find it.
21:48 wizzyrea Is there a bug for "forgotten password" functionality?
21:08 cait thx!
21:08 bgkriegel cait: I left a note on the bug, on how to fix it
20:44 bgkriegel variable on opac-user.pl is empty
20:43 cait thxx for checking!
20:43 cait ok, i am failing it
20:43 bgkriegel cait: does not show (Renewed! message)
20:39 martian523 i see
20:39 cait is server side
20:39 cait because everything you can do - like looking at error logs
20:39 martian523 ok
20:39 cait at the server
20:39 cait i guess you really need it to take a look
20:39 cait check if the reindexing job runs
20:38 martian523 sorry, i'm not IT, so should I ask IT to do something with the zebra.pl?
20:36 cait you can query it from reports
20:36 martian523 is it in the backend
20:36 cait it's the queue for indexing new and changed records
20:36 cait if they are done
20:35 cait check the entries in the zebraqueue table
20:35 martian523 re-run the indexing?
20:35 martian523 did not change anything in frameworks
20:34 martian523 nope
20:34 martian523 so something went wrong with the indexing?
20:34 cait did you change the frameworks?
20:34 cait not saved is more unlikey
20:34 cait i think probably not indexed
20:34 martian523 none
20:34 martian523 used titles to search, barcodes to search, authors to search
20:33 martian523 however, when i tried to search for them, it's not there
20:33 martian523 so i imported bibs from oclc, those bibs are there
20:32 cait are you searching for it?
20:32 cait how are you looking at it?
20:32 martian523 but when i try to look for it again, it's not there
20:32 martian523 and it appears to be saved
20:32 martian523 just like before, just saves
20:31 cait you could check what the logs say when you try to save somthing
20:31 cait given it was installed properly before
20:31 cait the upgrade shouldn't really change something that explains this
20:31 martian523 IT dept said there were no errors when upgrading
20:30 martian523 it was working fine before the upgrade
20:30 martian523 yes, i want to know what it is
20:30 cait martian523: i think someting is seriously wrong on your system.
20:25 martian523 all started after upgraded to 3.12 from 3.10
20:25 martian523 what's going on? i'm getting depressed here.
20:25 martian523 new titles not saving, authorities not saving,
20:24 martian523 check disk space, plenty of room
20:24 martian523 i don't know what's happening to my KOHA, everything i saved is not saving
20:19 cait :)
20:19 bgkriegel cait: testing, but need to take the boy to english class :) Back in minutes
20:08 cait i only have one checout
20:08 bgkriegel ok :)
20:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12568 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Improve visibility of successful renewal via opac
20:07 cait bug 12568
20:07 cait i don't see the new message :(
20:07 cait bgkriegel: could you maybe check 12568 for me?
20:07 cait but i think this is probably easy to fix with a bit of clean up we have in lots of files already
20:07 cait i think there has been some discussion which databases it should pass on - empty or not
20:06 cait bgkriegel: not a problem
20:06 bgkriegel cait: failed 12445. I tested on new db, using the usual one it fails, my bad
20:02 bgkriegel yeap
19:59 cait and then fix one central file... instead of lal the installer files
19:59 cait maybe better to concentrate to get them out of the database first
19:59 cait i thimk if there is noone asking right now
19:58 bgkriegel many of which have not shown any activity in a while
19:56 bgkriegel there are missing descriptions taking into account Pootle languages :)
19:56 bgkriegel a lot
19:55 cait hm more missing?
19:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9056 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, NEW , Add more translations to table language_descriptions
19:54 bgkriegel if not, can try to add missing languages on Bug 9056
19:50 cait i am noting it on the patch what we saw
19:50 cait hope to get to your patches soon
19:50 cait heh
19:49 bgkriegel hope you can test it :)
19:49 bgkriegel we need to modify getLanguages() on C4/Languages.pm. Returns an array but in no particular order
19:48 cait i think i pass ant test your patches soon :)
19:47 bgkriegel is not ordered
19:47 cait he put croatian at the bottom of the list - so it shows up last
19:47 cait hm it's the database order it seems?
19:45 cait but not consistently so
19:45 bgkriegel let me see
19:45 cait it seems mostly sorted by alphabet
19:44 bgkriegel *saw
19:44 bgkriegel I see that
19:44 cait because it's the last on advanced search list now
19:44 cait bgkriegel: hm how do they sort? the langs?
19:43 cait i fixed it and trying just that file now on my database
19:43 cait i will fix :)
19:43 cait yeah i thnk it's just a double paste
19:42 bgkriegel oops, yes of course. that was one the missing langs, perhaps double paste
19:41 cait if you are ok with that
19:41 cait i could just remove one of the 2 sections
19:40 cait doubled up?
19:40 cait the uk-ua doesn't look right
19:40 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=30042
19:40 bgkriegel yes
19:40 cait i am looking at the patch for croatan
19:40 cait bgkriegel: around?
19:31 bgkriegel on 14.04.1 LTS (perl v5.18.2) it pass, on 12.04.4 LTS (perl v5.14.2) fails :(
19:31 cait i am realyl really bad with numbers
19:30 cait always forget the number
19:30 cait i hve the newest
19:27 bgkriegel but fails on ubuntu 12.04
19:26 cait 5.18.2 ubuntu
19:26 cait test pass for me too
19:26 bgkriegel oleonard: test pass for perl v5.18.2, fails for perl 5.14.2
19:07 oleonard I should just submit the stupid patch with the test plan "I don't know, test it or whatever."
19:06 oleonard Hm for all I know that's why I can't get translate-templates.t to fail
19:01 oleonard Yes
19:00 cait adn perl looks the same, instead of prove?
19:00 cait hm
18:59 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "xt/author/valid-templates.t failures" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/118
18:57 cait did you run it with perl for a test? oftne gives better output
18:57 cait hm can you paste how it fails?
18:57 oleonard Can anyone suggest how I might find out why xt/author/valid-templates.t fails for only me?
18:53 tcohen bye #koha!
18:53 * tcohen feels relieved Koha on Debian 6 is back to functional
18:51 oleonard Great.
18:50 cait brb
18:49 bgkriegel oleonard: works for me
18:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12164: (followup) keys expects a hash parameter <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=305224b562cb0c1e7acce4d59ba2f13994f5be8b>
18:48 tcohen you might be missing some dependency?
18:47 tcohen it is you :-P
18:47 * nengard doesn't know what that is ...
18:47 oleonard According to my test it hasn't worked for ages.
18:47 oleonard Is it just me or does xt/author/valid-templates.t fail spectacularly?
18:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12649 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , Add Croatian language
18:44 bgkriegel Bug 12649, easy one for QA :)
18:42 * nengard missed something
18:42 nengard What's with the awesome jar ...
18:41 nengard tcohen++
18:41 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, nengard
18:41 nengard awesome!!!!
18:41 wahanui a followup is, like, a patch that applies after the other one with the differences
18:41 tcohen a followup
18:41 tcohen nengard: i'm about to push a fix
18:41 nengard tcohen should i run the db update on this new branch? and/or do i need to report a bug for the problem with squeeze?
18:34 cait no tenough disk space? incomplete dump?
18:34 cait hm it should really not be possible to happen, it might be something weird
18:33 martian523 i checked the authorities records, not there
18:33 tcohen martian523: you can look for the authority record on the DB to make sure it is there (we don't delete anything)
18:33 cait looking at the data in the auth_header table
18:33 cait i'd check the database first, if you can find the record there
18:33 martian523 or just manually re-add them?
18:33 cait not finding the record
18:33 cait it could be related to indexing
18:33 cait martian523: it's unlikely that koha changed your data
18:33 nengard should I wait for a bug fix?
18:33 cait and can stop trying :P
18:33 nengard Do I not want to run the database updater then?
18:33 martian523 so is there a way to fix the authorities?
18:33 cait and i am on newest ubuntu - so can't reproduce
18:32 nengard cool! so it's not me ;) hehe
18:32 cait jenkins++
18:32 tcohen no no, current master on *any* Debian Squeezed
18:29 nengard wait ... so it's my debian install that's broken?
18:29 tcohen (i mean, i love the way we've set jenkins, so we can spot this stuff)
18:29 tcohen nengard: there's a problem with Debian Squeeze
18:29 cait :)
18:28 * tcohen loves jenkins
18:28 martian523 um....3.10
18:27 tcohen martian523: you upgraded from version...?
18:26 martian523 and also even though the settings are set to automatically add non-existing authorities, seems like it's not adding
18:25 tcohen gzip it
18:25 martian523 hi, upgraded to 3.12 a few days ago, found out that some authorities are lost
18:25 nengard might be too big to email ... we'll see
18:25 nengard yes
18:25 tcohen and send it to me please? :-D
18:25 nengard sure
18:25 tcohen can u do a db dump before?
18:24 nengard should I run through the installer process?
18:24 nengard that got me the installer
18:23 tcohen git checkout a9c0e18d0ab90143fe343a5a15b833ecde5c13f4 -b testing_acq
18:23 tcohen try
18:23 tcohen nengard:
18:22 nengard This is perl, v5.10.1 (*) built for x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi
18:21 nengard let me check the perl version - how do i get that
18:21 nengard it's a VM installed locally
18:21 tcohen also, what perl version/environment are you working on?
18:20 tcohen or is just a development db?
18:20 tcohen is your db information private?
18:20 tcohen nengard: no
18:16 nengard_ do you think i should clear out acq data?
18:13 tcohen "(followup) MoveOrders description corrected" ¿
18:11 cait what's the last commit with git log?
18:10 cait i can't reproduce the problem
18:09 nengard so it looks like i have the most recent master
18:02 nengard_phone nengard@kohavm:~/kohaclone$
18:02 nengard_phone nengard@kohavm:~/kohaclone$ git fetch origin ; git diff origin/master
17:59 tcohen git fetch origin ; git diff origin/master
17:58 tcohen git diff origin/master ?
17:56 nengard_phone jsut the error
17:56 nengard_phone i'm not presented with the staff client log in message
17:56 nengard_phone I did a fetch, I went to my main staff client url to log in and can't log in - i see that error
17:56 tcohen page/action/smth?
17:56 nengard_phone http://paste.koha-community.org/117
17:56 tcohen nengard_phone: could you explain the context of the error?
17:55 nengard_phone nothing to pull
17:55 nengard_phone it's saying i'm already up to date
17:54 cait nengard_phone: it works ok for me
17:54 tcohen nengard_phone: how do u reproduce that?
17:54 cait tcohen just pushed something, maybe it overlapped
17:53 cait nengard_phone: try again a git fetch/pull
17:52 cait let me check
17:52 nengard_phone and then went to my staff client url
17:52 nengard_phone so i did a fetch
17:51 nengard_phone when i try to get to my staff client
17:51 cait where do you see it?
17:51 cait nengard_phone: hm that looks acq
17:51 tcohen almost
17:51 cait tcohen: arund still? :)
17:50 nengard_phone I don't see a missing module message like usual
17:50 nengard_phone http://paste.koha-community.org/116
17:49 nengard_phone hi all, i get this error after doing a fetch just now, what am i missing/did i do wrong?
17:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12164: (followup) MoveOrders description corrected <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=44343dc1325051993d07c1d8e794c3d2fd67baa4> / Bug 12164: Fix decimal number display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=359590f36a2ca656fb3b4c4fc63cc915cee50794> / Bug 12164: Fix some typos <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b64490cb48011eb6ed9958fb0
17:34 jcamins oleonard: it's checking for irony.
17:30 * cait is having dinner, but can look when the keyboard is a bit safer
17:30 cait do the comments in the file tell you something?
17:30 cait hmm
17:21 * oleonard tried mangling a template and running xt/author/translatable-templates.t but it still passed
17:04 antcwts the error is output to the screen
17:03 oleonard I don't know what that means antcwts but it might help if you had more details about the error. Was it output to the screen? Did you find it in the logs?
17:00 antcwts I tried to upgrade from 3.12 to 3.14, but during the Koha database update, an error "DBD::mysql::db do failed" error occured. Anyone has the same problem?
17:00 oleonard Looks like xt/author/show-template-structure.pl is only relevant for HTML::Template::Pro. Is there any reason to keep it?
16:49 Ant I tried to upgrade from 3.12 to 3.14, but during the Koha database update, an error "DBD::mysql::db do failed" occured. Anyone know how to fix that?
16:25 cait have to run :) bye all
16:25 cait if else for selected=selected or not selected
16:24 cait oleonard: maybe the old problem with nested tt inside of html tag?
16:08 ztajoli Bye
16:07 oleonard How could one trigger a fail of xt/author/translatable-templates.t?
16:02 ztajoli I fill a bug about it after a test on master
16:02 ztajoli But probably a general problem of sandbox.
16:01 ztajoli Still a problem on printing basket group with non latin diacritics.
16:00 ztajoli Hi, finish to test ACQ.
15:54 dpavlin I'm also getting Unknown column 'lastname' in 'field list' at /srv/koha//C4/Patroncards/Lib.pm line 108
15:50 dpavlin I have somehow to persuade patron cards generator to work with borrower attributes (which we are using) and after that I will try to test it.
15:49 vfernandes on koha-conf: <font type="H" >/usr/share/fonts/truetype/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf</font>
15:47 vfernandes bye Joubu
15:47 Joubu see you tomorrow!
15:47 Joubu maybe it's wrong lead, just what you described mades me remember this bug
15:47 vfernandes i'm using helvetica
15:46 dpavlin which *might* have utf-8 characters on your computer, but don't have it on printer
15:46 dpavlin if you don't have ttf fonts defined, than pdf will fallback to built-in fonts
15:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12194 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Some fonts don't work on printing label
15:45 Joubu bug 12194 ?
15:45 vfernandes looks like a problem with the Font
15:45 vfernandes Joubu : I don't have problem with diacrits for now... the caracters are appearing in the PDF with no ttf configuration, except when printed in paper
15:45 dpavlin so it's mine to fix, right? ;-)
15:44 Joubu bug 8375 has been pushed to 3.16 ;)
15:44 vfernandes 3.16 not
15:44 vfernandes Joubu : 3.12 almost uses the same code and it's working
15:43 Joubu I raised some issues in a note at the end of the bug report
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Master , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
15:43 Joubu vfernandes: I have to go, but take a look at bug 8375
15:41 dpavlin but, you don't have same problem, maybe my configuration is broken (we are not using patron cards, we are printing directly on RFID cards using alternative method)
15:40 dpavlin whey I try to create patron cards. (error is inside pdf file which isn't pdf)
15:40 dpavlin Can't use string ("1") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /srv/koha//C4/Patroncards/Patroncard.pm line 102.
15:40 dpavlin I'm getting application error
15:39 * dpavlin checking
15:39 vfernandes those methods were modified to load ttf file
15:38 vfernandes i've compared 3.12 version with 3.16 and besides Font method and StrWidth of Creators/PDF.pm everything is the same
15:37 vfernandes besides that when printing a correct patron card the characters aren't being printed...
15:36 vfernandes yes... somehow the patron card is being generated right without ttf but wrong with ttf configuration
15:36 dpavlin oh, patron cards....
15:35 dpavlin vfernandes: you didn't miss me (yet), but I have to re-read irc log to figure out what is driving you crazy :-)
15:35 cait vfernandes: now you missed dpavlin - he is the expert
15:34 vfernandes this is driving me crazy
15:31 * oleonard is looking at INSTALL.opensuse "for Installing Koha 3.0.0 on openSUSE 11.3"
15:31 oleonard I wonder if after a certain number of version changes we should remove INSTALL files which haven't been updated
15:30 vfernandes cait : i'm still getting the "bug"
15:27 * oleonard gives ashimema a big hearty American-style whack on the back for encouragement
15:24 ashimema :)
15:24 cait i am happy :)
15:24 cait you just past that ldap bug
15:24 ashimema my qa and signoff stats for this month are pityful.. sorry guys
15:21 cait i thought you would know maybe where his problem was
15:21 cait vfernandes: had a question about the .tff settings
15:12 dpavlin cait: back at keyboard
15:03 reiveune bye
14:55 cait and doing all the hard work really
14:55 cait ashimema++ for having lots of patience
14:54 ashimema cait++ for having patience with the shibboleth bug and giving me lots of followups
14:53 cait gmcharlt++ making me laugh on twitter
14:31 ztajoli Ok, I finish to test on ACQ then I try to test on a debian with perl 5.14
14:30 ztajoli you can compile all locales if you want
14:29 ztajoli in the second step you select one
14:29 ztajoli in the first step you 'compile' locales
14:29 ztajoli locale setup is done with "dpkg-reconfigure locales"
14:28 Joubu sandboxes use fr_FR.UTF-8
14:26 Joubu I have LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
14:26 ztajoli when you install debian you need to 'compile one or locales, and after select one.
14:25 Joubu What do you mean?
14:25 ztajoli And do you have complied all locales ?
14:25 Joubu ztajoli: debian testing
14:24 ztajoli ?
14:24 ztajoli Which version (of distro)
14:24 ztajoli Joubu: do you use perl 5.18 on Debian or Ubuntu ?
14:23 huginn cait: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
14:23 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/
14:23 cait @quote get 123
14:23 cait rhcl: i thik that's reasonable - but libraries are all different :)
14:18 rhcl set to the length of the longest interval
14:18 rhcl cait: we do have bookmobile routes with differing time periods, but we only use one bookmobile checkout period
14:05 cait yep, it solved the problem
14:05 bgkriegel is your poedit updated?
14:05 bgkriegel hi cait :)
14:04 cait hi bgkriegel
14:03 bgkriegel ok :)
14:03 tcohen wb oleonard!!
14:02 oleonard Hi all
14:02 vfernandes bgkriegel : patron cards module does use ttf fonts
14:02 vfernandes in my boss computer (Mac OS) the PDF doesn't have the patron image but the patron fields are corretly printed
14:02 bgkriegel but patron cards does not use ttf fonts, I think
14:01 vfernandes in my computer the PDF with no ttf configuration is corretly generated but when printed the patron fields (like surname, firstname) aren't printed
14:00 bgkriegel and you said it happens after setting ttf fonts?
14:00 vfernandes in my computer (Ubuntu) the PDF with ttf configuration is generated only with patron image
13:59 vfernandes i don't know what to do....
13:59 vfernandes *yes...
13:59 vfernandes is patron image
13:58 bgkriegel vfernandes: you mean patron image?
13:57 vfernandes i've tried in another computer and PDF don't open the image...
13:56 vfernandes patron cards module is not working properly in koha 3.16.1
13:51 Joubu { λλλ => "λλλ" } becomes { ??? => "λλλ" }
13:51 Joubu ztajoli: no I don't. But when I took a look at the other bug, it seems that perl 5.10 does not like to use special chars as hash keys
13:48 ztajoli Do you have any idea on unicode/utf-8 differenct between perl 5.10 and 5.18 ?
13:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
13:47 ztajoli I confirm, the bug is present also on master, not connect with bug 11944
13:41 ztajoli OK, wait a little
13:39 Joubu ztajoli: No sorry, I cannot upgrade a sandbox
13:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
13:38 ztajoli I test now the situation on a master without bug 11944
13:37 ztajoli Joubu: is it possible to test with perl 5.14? The debian stable (whezzy) use 5.14
13:34 cait or trying here agian a bit later if noone knows
13:34 cait mailing list maybe
13:33 vfernandes cait the problem is that I need this working for tomorrow
13:32 cait better to put it on a bug for the lable module
13:32 cait vfernandes: i won't be able to help much
13:31 Joubu ztajoli++
13:31 vfernandes I can sent you a PDF with the card
13:29 cait you checked the the font exists? with the characters you need?
13:29 vfernandes but when I try to print the chracters aren't printed
13:28 vfernandes something is strange because with no ttf definition the card appears fine in PDF
13:27 cait hm i don't kwno enough about the cardnumber printing, maybe a bug report
13:26 vfernandes cait: characters which are from fields of database <surname> <firstname>
13:23 cait dpavlin: still around?
13:23 cait vfernandes: fields or characters?
13:21 ashimema very odd
13:21 ashimema Joubu ignore that.. somthing must have been cahced.. it hits opac-search now.
13:21 vfernandes with no .ttf definition in koha-conf.xml the fields are printed in PDF but when printed on paper don't appear :O
13:20 vfernandes one question: why with .ttf correctly defined the fields don't appear in PDF?
13:20 vfernandes hi people!
13:20 rhcl person when she gets in
13:19 rhcl hummm, I think we just have a single "bookmobile checkout period", but I can check with our bookmobile
13:19 cait because i think they run different routs, so some bus stops get visited more often than others
13:19 cait rhcl: the problem here as that they wanted different loan periods depending on the bus stip
13:19 rhcl which matches the schedule of the bookmobile stops, and which differs from the inhouse checkout period
13:18 rhcl cait: not quite sure I follow you, but for our bookmobile we do indeed have a checkout period...
13:18 cait pm
13:18 matts yep
13:17 cait could you take a look?
13:17 cait looking not so good
13:17 cait trying cas again
13:17 cait and then the loan period will differe from the bus stop before, because you might only be there every 4 weeks... or every 2 weeks, depending on routes
13:17 matts cait, yep, around
13:17 cait you say i am at bus stop x
13:16 cait yeah
13:16 rhcl bus stop management?
13:16 cait matts: around?
13:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12650 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , UTF-8: ACQ, problems after saved a new budget
13:16 ztajoli UTF-8 problems on ACQ. Description in bug 12650
13:14 ashimema but not if i'm not
13:13 ashimema I can trigger the debugger in opac-search.pl if i'm logged in..
13:13 ashimema that's odd.
13:13 ashimema oh hang on..
13:13 cait for the library bus
13:13 cait someone heard about bus stop management? :)
13:13 cait ashimema: thx, added sth about that
13:10 ashimema wondering if you'de ever come accross that
13:09 ashimema except I can't seem to trigger it to run on opac-search.pl
13:09 ashimema seems to be working fine for me..
13:09 ashimema yup..
13:08 Joubu the Vdebug vim plugin?
13:08 Joubu ashimema: I can try, which debugger?
13:06 ashimema multiple branches cait?
13:06 ashimema Joubu.. you about and able to advise on using the debugger a bit?
13:06 cait i have family accounts and the age restriction on records... but running out of ideas a bit :)
13:05 cait hm can somen help me out with some 'public library' features in Koha?
12:58 ashimema opac-search.pl seems to manage to skip auth.pm altogether somehow?
12:58 ashimema erm..
12:55 matts ok !
12:53 cait matts: not back to cas yet - but can log in with shibboleth now, still needs bit more testing
12:53 cait ztajoli++
12:50 ashimema but we're really close now.
12:50 ashimema sh'es finding me followups ;)
12:50 ashimema well.. more like 'in testing' tcohen.
12:49 matts cait, you can log in but it's not ok ?
12:49 ztajoli Hi to all. Test of serials done and the module is OK for UTF-8
12:47 cait but i can log in !
12:47 cait not quite there yet
12:47 tcohen you've got shibboleth patches tested
12:46 cait ashimema++ and matts++
12:46 cait tcohen: î didn't do anything
12:45 ashimema my shib stuff gets around that..
12:45 ashimema yeah.. that's exactly what I thought.. it just disables modal login..
12:44 matts Joubu, yes, I was.
12:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12046 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Authentication using CAS - bootstrap
12:43 Joubu matts: Were you thinking about bug 12046?
12:43 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 31.2°C (1:43 PM BST on July 24, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
12:43 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk
12:43 tcohen brrrr
12:43 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 3.4°C (9:40 AM ART on July 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 35%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
12:43 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:42 tcohen cait++
12:41 ashimema no worries.. it makes sense now
12:40 matts ashimema, about the boostrap fix, I did not look at this precisely, I don't know how it has been done
12:40 matts thx
12:40 ashimema I'll take a look in a tic Matts.
12:40 ashimema it disables the modal login such that a 'Login to your account' will always open up opac-user.pl as pper pre bootstrap
12:40 matts I've tried to be as accurate as possible about the description of the problem
12:39 huginn 04Bug 12631: normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , Inventory: fix "wrong place" and "item not scanned" statuses
12:39 matts On another topic, I've submitted a patch about inventory : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12631
12:39 ashimema i don't like it ;)
12:39 ashimema oh I see how the cas patch does it..
12:37 ashimema I'll grab that then :)
12:37 ashimema coolios..
12:37 cait i will be back in a few
12:36 cait matts: i am only aware of the one cas patch right now
12:36 matts I saw a patch to fix Cas Authentication with bootstrap at biblibre, but I don't know if it went communautary already
12:35 cait matts: i have the same impression :)
12:34 matts correct me if wrong
12:34 matts yep, I think template->param in Auth.pm is opac-wide
12:34 ashimema lol.. there may well be.. i just haven't found them yet ;)
12:33 wahanui normally is file permissions
12:33 cait normally
12:33 cait in Auth.pm
12:33 matts Aren't there opac-wide variables already ?
12:32 ashimema (i have a simlar shibAuthentication one)
12:32 ashimema any idea's how to make that casAuthentication template variable a global template veriable for the opac?
12:32 ashimema but in bootstrap now you 'should' be able to login from pretty much any page.
12:31 ashimema I reckon you won't be able to login via cas on any page other than opac-main or opac-user
12:31 ashimema I tihnk we're both going to come up against the same bug matts..
12:31 matts Yes, please let me know if it works (with the patch :))
12:31 ashimema whilst we're talking cas/shib..
12:31 cait i will try again
12:31 matts \o/ :)
12:30 cait it didn't run the code with the patch...
12:30 cait ashimema fixed it - ashimema++
12:30 ashimema haha.. you're gonna love this matts/
12:30 cait matts: please don't laugh... but turns out my gitified installation was not properly gitified
12:30 matts cait, really ? What was it ?
12:30 cait matts: i found the problem with the cas patch
12:30 matts Idealy, the admin should be able to define a chain (cas -> shib -> local, local -> shib -> cas, or whatever)
12:30 cait should hopefully be ok
12:29 cait ashimema: for cas you also have to clickon a link and know what you do
12:29 ashimema tihnk your probably one of the few out there that has touched both ;)
12:29 ashimema I'll fix it in my patch then.. thanks for the opinion..
12:29 ashimema hmm.. your right.. it 'should' work.
12:29 matts Given the state of the Auth API, yes, it will be
12:29 ashimema but builing the fallback chain for shib/cas/local could be 'messy'
12:28 ashimema at the moment my shib work falls back to local login.. just like the cas stuff does..
12:28 matts as long as the user knows where to authenticate (cas or shib)
12:28 matts not tested, but it could work
12:28 matts hmmm
12:27 ashimema ?
12:27 ashimema can you envisage a case where someone would enable both shibboleth and cas authentication.
12:27 ashimema matts.. you're doing the cas stuff right?
12:27 Joubu dpavlin: Croate
12:27 wahanui privet, matts
12:27 matts hello
12:27 matts ashimema, yep
12:26 ashimema matts you about?
12:25 dpavlin yes
12:25 cait dpavlin: serials? :)
12:25 dpavlin yap, we just need it because we don't see our language in acquisitions...
12:24 cait i think moving it out of the dabase (with duplication of the file in the web installers...) would be really nice
12:24 cait :)
12:24 dpavlin cait: yes, I noted that I will need to review this patch one 12017 gets in :-)
12:23 cait dpavlin: i just asked bgkriegel to rebase 12017 for me, is it a big conflict?
12:22 cait what's the marc language code? :P
12:22 cait Kroatisch
12:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12649 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add Croatian language
12:19 dpavlin German and French speaking peope: how do you say Croatian (as language) in your languages? I need it for bug 12649
11:38 Dyrcona Be back in a bit.
11:38 Dyrcona And, I really dislike what Google Drive does to ODF.
11:37 huginn Dyrcona: The operation succeeded.
11:37 Dyrcona @later tell rangi This is what I plan to do to NCIPServer: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NJRhhigysC70t75SbJ-N2rPPh_-TJa9490i4ZfnA6Mg/edit?usp=sharing
11:06 ashimema anyone fancy testing shibboleth whilst I have the pen in hand?
07:41 cait good morning #koha
07:02 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
07:02 dcook night all
07:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12477 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , We need better ways to manage MARC Frameworks
07:02 dcook Would love more feedback on bug 12477 if anyone is so inclined :)
07:00 wahanui salut, alex_a
07:00 alex_a bonjour
07:00 dcook ;)
07:00 dcook Not that you're not lovely
07:00 * dcook thinks it's about time to go home
06:59 dcook heya France folks
06:55 reiveune hello
06:43 marcelr hi dcook
06:43 dcook yo marcelr
06:42 marcelr hi #koha
06:23 cait hm mostly
06:22 dcook good morning so far?
06:22 cait yo dcook
06:20 dcook yo cait
05:04 eythian no (well sometimes), it was mostly the bear typo
05:04 dcook eythian: Is it sarsaparilla down here?
05:03 dcook OpacAddMastheadLibraryPulldown is a remarkably obtuse system preference...
05:03 eythian your canadian is showing
05:03 dcook Luckily, I survived. The keyboard did not.
05:03 dcook rootbeer*
05:03 dcook I learned that lesson years ago with a large glass of rootbear...
05:03 dcook hehe
04:59 wizzyrea the koha channel, keeping keyboard vendors in business since 1999
04:59 wizzyrea what if someone had a beverage!
04:59 wizzyrea YOU GUYS stop being so funny.
04:59 eythian It's in Pennsylvania
04:58 dcook Touche
04:58 dcook ...
04:58 eythian it could be worse though: "As with the nearby towns of Bird-in-Hand, Blue Ball, and Paradise, Intercourse is a popular site for tourists..."
04:58 dcook But what are the chances?!
04:58 eythian most likely
04:58 dcook Which...echos Arthur C. Clarke's novel "Rendevous with Rama" in a way which must be coincidence...
04:57 dcook Also a town called Endeavour really close to a town called Rama
04:57 dcook There's a Kandahar in Saskatchewan too
04:57 dcook Oh, Sasktchewan
04:57 * dcook tries to remember
04:57 dcook lol
04:57 * wizzyrea hopes she never called you "squirt"
04:57 dcook I think they may have all already been made once upon a time
04:56 wizzyrea there are so many impossibly naughty jokes to be made there.
04:56 wizzyrea clearly.
04:56 wizzyrea you win.
04:56 dcook My mum is from the town of Climax :p
04:56 wizzyrea it was a big joke to drive past the faucett turnoff.
04:56 dcook Fairly close to Moose Jaw too
04:56 wizzyrea I was born near a town called Faucett
04:56 dcook Not far from Eyebrow
04:56 dcook It's also the lake where you'll find the town of Elbow
04:53 dcook I think that's supposed to be farther west though
04:53 wahanui I know. That's why I said it.
04:53 dcook Very true
04:53 wizzyrea could be worse, you could be a sasquatch.
04:53 dcook :D
04:53 wizzyrea that is perfect.
04:53 dcook The lake actually is part of the river Saskatchewan ;)
04:53 wahanui i guess dcook is the Last Saskatchewan Pirate
04:53 wizzyrea dcook?
04:53 wizzyrea dcook
04:52 wahanui okay, eythian.
04:52 eythian wahanui: dcook is also the Last Saskatchewan Pirate
04:51 dcook Precisely.
04:51 eythian http://youtu.be/DuGGNsE3_8Y <-- this'd be you then
04:50 dcook It's Saskatchewan. We had to make our own fun :p.
04:50 dcook My grandparents have a little sailboat on a lake back home. In the summers, we used to competitively spit cherry pits while sailing.
04:49 * dcook misses his sisters
04:49 dcook I've never thought about doing that until now
04:49 dcook ...
04:49 eythian or save up a bunch and machine gun them out
04:48 dcook Although cherry pits are good as you can spit them somewhat majestically...
04:48 * dcook dislikes seeds
04:48 dcook The one I had the other day only had one seed all together. BUt on has had...6 alrady
04:47 dcook Hmm, maybe
04:46 eythian maybe it's seasonal though, depending on where they came from
04:46 eythian I don't think our ones usually do either
04:46 * dcook didn't even know mandarins could have seeds in them before moving to Oz
04:45 * dcook wonders how this one mandarin slice has 3 seeds in it..
04:45 dcook d'accord
04:45 eythian sounds like the plugin should be improved
04:43 dcook Ah, but it only returns branchname?
04:42 * dcook thinks there is a Template Toolkit plugin for branches...
04:40 dcook I was wondering how we managed to provide it on every page of the OPAC...
04:39 wizzyrea oy.
04:38 dcook wizzyrea: yep
04:38 wizzyrea the one in the search header?
04:38 eythian that's terrible
04:38 dcook Dang, we rely on C4::Auth to provide the branches loop for the branches pull down in the OPAC...
04:36 wizzyrea http://instagram.com/chelebanks
04:35 dcook Hmm, the spares are IDEs...a SATA/IDE to USB cable might do the trick...
04:35 wizzyrea (and/or HDR)
04:35 wizzyrea that particular person's photos (the first) are always extremely vividly colour corrected
04:34 wizzyrea http://instagram.com/p/q0RgqTAbBB/?modal=true not on this one though, if you can see it.
04:33 eythian the colours have been manipulated a fair bit, I think
04:33 wizzyrea ^
04:33 eythian it's the bucket fountain
04:33 wizzyrea Cuba street in Wellington, earlier today
04:33 jcamins wizzyrea: yes I can. What is it?
04:32 dcook jcamins: Yeah, that's a downside
04:32 dcook Dang, mwave has some cheap docks...
04:32 jcamins dcook: yeah, but I don't have an office.
04:32 wizzyrea http://instagram.com/p/q0I7qOoAd5/?modal=false (can you see that?)
04:32 dcook (preferably with you not inside it of course)
04:32 dcook jcamins: You never know when your building might go up in flames
04:31 dcook The older one might just need a new life...
04:31 dcook Well...maybe the newer one
04:31 dcook begging to be used for that purpose
04:31 dcook I have a few spare hard drives at home just begging for it
04:31 dcook eythian: Yeah, that's what I've been thinking of doing
04:30 jcamins I swap out two external hard drives, but so far I haven't been keeping one of them off-site.
04:29 eythian Periodically I swap them between home and work
04:29 eythian dcook: a pair of harddrives and a harddrive dock is what I use.
04:28 dcook I had the grilled cheese, but not the mango lassi. I do have mango in the freezer at home from last mango season though...
04:28 dcook jcamins: om nom nom
04:28 dcook We do off-site backups at work, but I need to know that my cat photos will live on forever
04:27 * dcook needs to do off-site personal backups
04:27 jcamins Grilled cheese and mango lassi. The natural choice for 12:30am.
04:27 dcook It just sounds cooler when you say it in French :p
04:27 dcook If I recall correctly, the French for iPod is iPod
04:26 wizzyrea i mean, of course there is
04:25 wizzyrea ...there's a maori word for ipad.
04:24 wizzyrea yeah same
04:24 eythian Which reminds me, I need to rotate them.
04:24 eythian yeah, I have my own on and offsite backups.
04:22 wizzyrea but I don't keep all of my things in google or trust them to keep them backed up
04:22 wizzyrea though I'm not much better, all my mobile-things are google ones :/
04:21 wizzyrea but vendor of hardware.
04:21 wizzyrea of ebooks
04:21 wizzyrea not vendor
04:21 eythian either that, or the "two types of people: those who keep backups, and those who don't yet" syndrome
04:21 wizzyrea also too much trust in one vendor.
04:21 eythian that's a failure to think ahead going on there
04:20 eythian erk yeah
04:19 wizzyrea http://thebookpushers.com/2014/07/22/the-tragic-demise-of-an-e-library/
04:18 eythian looks like I never actually clicked on "checkout"
04:18 eythian I thought I had a lost order from book depository
04:18 eythian huh
04:18 wizzyrea sec I'll get it for you
04:18 eythian reading what thing?
04:18 wizzyrea geeze.
04:18 wizzyrea yeah, after reading that thing definitely keep backups with an airgap.
04:18 eythian yeah
04:18 jcamins I'd use it for transmitting books to my phone.
04:17 jcamins But I wouldn't store my library on it.
04:17 jcamins eythian: that seems interesting, and I might try it.
04:17 eythian I have been quite liking google books, I can throw epubs into it from my desktop and they appear on my phone and tablet
04:17 jcamins That's like relying on MS software for access to servers.
04:16 wizzyrea yeah that seems daft.
04:16 jcamins I have a Mac, and I really like it, but the chances of me using an Apple product for my ebooks are nil.
04:16 jcamins Why on earth would you use an Apple product for your ebooks?
03:59 wizzyrea (I used to use macs a lot. But not now.)
03:59 eythian Windows has been pretty good, I think I started testing it on XP and it's worked solidly til now.
03:59 wizzyrea osx isn't much better than windows these days
03:51 dcook :(
03:51 eythian It's a bit of a pain, every release of OSX breaks something new.
03:50 dcook Cross-platform stuff is handy...
03:50 eythian and macos and linux
03:50 dcook You support an app that can be installed on Windows?
03:50 dcook :o
03:49 eythian mine gets used less than once a year, and it's usually just from when I've modified the windows builder/installer config for an application of mine.
03:49 eythian yeah
03:49 dcook Or...you could just have a free OS
03:49 dcook I guess this way you could reset it as needed
03:48 * dcook wonders why they wouldn't keep the period 5 times as long and not have the fiddly weird bits
03:48 dcook But to a maximum of 5 times or something
03:48 dcook I think mine is blue and tells me how I could reset it via the CLI
03:48 dcook hehe
03:47 eythian it also has a black background and you can't change it.
03:45 dcook eythian: Interesting. I have a windows 7 VM for testing as well. It's expired but so far I haven't experienced any consequences. I must not have had it open long enough for it to shut down...
03:45 dcook Technically, RDA might be ready?
03:44 huginn wizzyrea: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
03:44 wizzyrea @quote help
03:44 wizzyrea hrm.
03:44 wizzyrea gn
03:44 huginn wizzyrea: I've exhausted my database of quotes
03:44 wizzyrea @quote delete 308
03:44 wizzyrea there we go
03:44 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #309 added.
03:44 wizzyrea @quote add eythian: Keep in mind that Microsoft isn't a software company. They're an abuse company. They just use software as a means to deliver that abuse.
03:44 wizzyrea @quote add eythian: Keep in mind that Microsoft isn't a software company. They're an abuse company. They just use software as a means to deliver that abuse.
03:43 wizzyrea but I"ll add the complete thing.
03:43 wizzyrea it's all a punchline.
03:43 eythian wizzyrea: you missed the punchline of that quote.
03:43 wizzyrea \o/
03:42 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #308 added.
03:42 wizzyrea @quote add eythian: keep in mind that Microsoft isn't a software company. They're an abuse company.
03:42 eythian Fine for testing
03:42 eythian I have a windows 7 VM I use for testing things in, it was an RC release from Microsoft. Now I think it runs for an hour then tells me it's not genuine and shuts down.
03:42 dcook Yeah, Canada has heaps of web-based clients for doing tax
03:41 * dcook almost thought about buying Windows solely for the purpose of doing his taxes
03:41 eythian Yeah, we don't tend to use those.
03:41 dcook I think Australia might have a web client now for doing taxes and not just a Windows app...
03:41 dcook Of course, then you have organizations that only provide their product for Windows.
03:40 dcook It certainly feels that way sometimes.
03:40 eythian They just use software as a means to deliver that abuse.
03:40 eythian They're an abuse company.
03:40 eythian Keep in mind that Microsoft isn't a software company.
03:40 eythian You're using Outlook.
03:39 * dcook thinks there must be a trickster god somewhere or something who is teasing us
03:39 dcook I swear reality doesn't need to be as strange as it is
03:38 dcook :S
03:37 eythian dcook: seems to be the case, yeah
03:26 dcook Whereas Outlook puts the newest at the start of the References string?
03:26 dcook So the References should have the first reference at the top and each new one should go at the end?
03:26 dcook Yeah, it was almost a decade ago at this point. I wonder if that library still uses Eudora...
03:26 * dcook looks at the date
03:25 eythian Neither, not since the first couple of years at uni
03:25 dcook Wow, I haven't used Eudora in years...
03:22 eythian and Paul A is using a ridiculously old version of Eudora that should be sent to the server farm.
03:21 eythian Basically, I'm extrapolating from "everyone's works except Paul A's and people using Outlook"
03:21 eythian it sorts your References: entries backwards.
03:12 dcook Although now it appears to have lost the Thread-Index...
03:11 dcook References looks a bit funny, but it's all there when I try it
03:10 dcook Hmm, no idea
03:00 dcook Hmm
02:56 eythian when they are there, they're wrong.
02:56 eythian But they sometimes are there
02:56 eythian yeah, I can't see them there at all.
02:55 dcook But I don't see them in the message that you sent to me
02:55 dcook I see "References" and "In-Reply-To" in the headers when I replied to my Gmail email
02:55 dcook Hmm weird
02:51 eythian emailed, the attachment should contain full headers.
02:50 dcook My current example was no goood
02:50 dcook Actually, yeah, if you could send it
02:50 eythian dcook: sure, one moment
02:49 dcook All right. Let's see..
02:48 dcook Actually, I guess I could to that myself with my personal email..
02:48 dcook eythian: Could you show me what my outgoing email headers look like?
02:47 dcook (in Outlook 2013 :P)
02:47 dcook Now if only I could fix the threading
02:47 dcook eythian: fixed
02:45 dcook [off] gmcharlt: Nah, they're just often the first password in a hacker's dictionary
02:44 dcook I think I shall change that
02:44 dcook Hmm, apparently I do for replies
02:44 dcook Do I?
02:44 dcook Do I/
02:42 eythian dcook: you type in blue
02:40 pianohacker hit and run karmal
02:40 pianohacker eythian++
02:35 gmcharlt [off] dcook: do I need to change the combination of my luggage?
02:35 gmcharlt eythian++
01:42 tcohen eythian++
01:39 eythian s/ing/ed/
01:38 eythian 3.16.02 packages uploading now.
00:53 dcook [off] I suppose it doesn't need to be super secure, but still...it's just a bit awkward
00:52 dcook [off] Man...LAC sure gives out some really bad passwords for their Z39.50...
00:09 Ant thanks eythian, i got the DBIx module done
00:09 dcook :)
00:09 tcohen it is!
00:08 dcook That's so exciting
00:08 dcook About halfway then?
00:05 tcohen 19 weeks
00:04 dcook How far along now?
00:04 dcook Awesome :)
00:04 tcohen yes
00:04 dcook tcohen: ultrasound?