Time  Nick        Message
01:32 Dyrcona     rangi: I'm going to see if I can do this with as little disruption as possible. I've had some ideas that involve drastic reorganization of the current code.
01:33 Dyrcona     rangi: I'll still have to change function interfaces at a minimum.
01:33 rangi       sweet as
02:18 eythian     @wunder nzwn
02:18 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (2:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
04:09 cait        morning #koha
04:12 eythian     hi cait
04:13 cait        hi eythian
04:13 cait        not sure when i will get to it, but i will try to get it working
04:13 eythian     k
04:13 dcook       hey cait
04:13 eythian     it's literally a five minute job
04:13 dcook       @wunder sydney, australia
04:13 huginn      dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 15.0°C (2:00 PM EST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
04:13 eythian     @wunder nzwn
04:13 huginn      eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 8.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
04:13 eythian     hasn't changed much
04:18 cait        @wunder Konstanz
04:18 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 15.0°C (6:00 AM CEST on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
04:18 dcook       Whoa, I didn't realize it's been two hours..
04:19 dcook       Mmm summer...
04:19 cait        eythian: i believe you... but I don't have good memories fo trying to set up caching :)
04:19 eythian     that's why I wrote it down :)
04:47 cait        that's what i had hoped for :)
05:38 eythian     does Koha have a proper password reset function yet?
05:39 eythian     i.e. where you can put your email address in and it'll send you a reset link?
05:39 cait        sadly no
05:39 cait        there is abug with a patch set
05:39 eythian     rats
05:39 dcook       I think blou was working on that?
05:39 cait        yeah
05:39 cait        but i think it needed some more work
05:39 dcook       Yeah, I haven't looked in a while
05:39 cait        it would be nice if it worked similar to the patron registration feature
05:39 cait        sending out an emai with a one time link
05:40 cait        bug 8753
05:40 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8753 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Failed QA , Add forgot password link to OPAC
06:30 dcook       I think I might actually like DBIx::Class...
06:30 dcook       Bit of a learning curve, but it's a bit handy
06:44 eythian     yep
06:44 dcook       Not sure how to handle composite primary keys yet though...
06:47 cait        good morning #koha
06:49 dcook       Hmm, I wonder if "primary" functions that way...
06:49 dcook       I bet it does...
06:50 dcook       As it's the only constraint obviously defined in the ResultSet...
06:58 reiveune    hello
06:58 wahanui     salut, reiveune
07:01 ashimema    Good morning #koha
07:02 cait        good morning ashimema :)
07:02 ashimema    hi cait
07:02 ashimema    hi dcook
07:02 dcook       heya ashimema
07:02 wahanui     ashimema is on qa now .)
07:03 dcook       Did you see the epic comments of mine? :p
07:03 dcook       In regards to that QP OpacSuppression bug that is
07:04 * dcook     figures there might be epic-length comments elsewhere as well...
07:04 cait        i did
07:04 ashimema    was just about to go take a look
07:04 cait        does it translate to: it's fixable?
07:04 dcook       cait: very easily
07:04 dcook       ashimema's patch was just about there
07:04 dcook       But instead of ($query) -suppress:1
07:04 ashimema    it's been a busy weekend of tidying the house so the computer has been unplugged
07:04 dcook       It should be ($query) && -(suppress:1)
07:04 dcook       ashimema: I hear that...we're having a lot of out of town guests this week
07:04 ashimema    oh.. cool.
07:05 dcook       Alternatively, it could be...
07:05 dcook       ($query) && -suppress:-"1"
07:05 dcook       I believe
07:05 ashimema    will have a play with the code some time today then assuming I get a restbite of more than five minutes at any point ;)
07:05 dcook       Hehe. Fair enough.
07:05 * dcook     has been playing with frameworks today
07:05 ashimema    did you get on ok with dbic..
07:06 dcook       Surprisingly so yeah
07:06 ashimema    I saw your comment above about primary keys..
07:06 dcook       Turns out using key => "primary" did the trick
07:06 ashimema    so far they've worked ok for me in my limited use.. including a couple of cases of composite keys.
07:06 dcook       Or at least it seemed to...
07:06 ashimema    fantastic.
07:06 dcook       I had a bad experience using Dbic with Letters.pm, but...
07:07 dcook       That was a bit of an exceptional case
07:07 ashimema    I have to admit, I'm still a tad baffled as to koha's use of dbic.
07:07 dcook       Honestly, I haven't really touched it much before today
07:07 ashimema    shoe horning it in feels like it's made it more complicated than it needs to be.
07:07 dcook       Hmm
07:07 cait        shoe horning?
07:07 cait        aah
07:07 dcook       After reading through the documentation today, it seemed like it was implemented ok?
07:08 dcook       But I haven't really checked through toom uch
07:08 cait        i think kyle has been working on moving some modules over
07:08 cait        maybe a good start to take a look
07:09 ashimema    I've not really seen it in use much.. but the couple of cases I saw seems to add some random boilerplate..
07:09 ashimema    but then, maybe I was looking at bad exmaples ;)
07:10 ashimema    cait, 'shoe horn' - to force something to fit, even though it doesn't naturally go in the gap.
07:10 cait        thx :)
07:11 Joubu       Good morning
07:11 ashimema    ack.. I have a customer here that thinks authentication should just happen by magic
07:11 dcook       morning, Joubu
07:12 ashimema    they can't agree to send me anythign form or attribute to match upon..
07:12 dcook       ashimema: I'm trying to think of something to clever to say in response to that  but I got nothing
07:12 dcook       That sucks :/
07:12 ashimema    wow.. that last one was so full of typo's it barely makes any sense
07:13 ashimema    brain moving fater than fingers again.. 'any form of attribute' vs 'anything to'
07:13 ashimema    you get the drift though ;)
07:14 dcook       I really really do
07:14 ashimema    anywho, enough public ranting for me for one day ;)
07:15 ashimema    I'm gonna take a look through your comments over breakfast dcook.. :)
07:15 ashimema    let's show horn that in ;)
07:16 dcook       If that's enough public ranting, you might want to skip those comments :p
07:17 dcook       Then again, if you want a somewhat in-depth look at PQF queries, please read :)
07:17 cait        i don't understand them, but i was very impressed ;)
07:17 dcook       I'm thinking about writing up a wiki page with the synthesis of what I read..
07:17 dcook       wrote..not read
07:17 dcook       Hehe. Well, I'm glad you were impressed, cait :)
07:17 dcook       Hopefully I can write out an explanation that will make sense to folks.
07:18 ashimema    That would be super usefull dcook..
07:18 dcook       :)
07:18 ashimema    understanding zebra queries has been somthing on my list to learn for ages..
07:18 ashimema    at the moment they fit into the black magic category
07:18 dcook       Yeah, it used to freak me out, and then I just dove into it
07:18 dcook       dove? dived?
07:18 dcook       Well, I'll try to explain away the black magic :)
07:19 * dcook     wonders why his wife isn't calling him about dinner plans...
07:20 cait        heh
07:20 ashimema    lol
07:21 ashimema    you've certainly spent some time with it..
07:21 ashimema    wow those comments are enlightening.. somewhat confusing at times.. but enlightening too ;)
07:21 dcook       I imagine the stream of consciousness is confusing, but I was hoping that folks might see my thought process as I go and find it enlightening
07:22 cait        i prefer too many comments to not enough
07:22 cait        and too many... i think you didn't reach that yet :)
07:27 ashimema    wow..
07:27 ashimema    Just got to the end of your comments..
07:28 ashimema    I'm impressed by the lengths you went to to prove the syntax..
07:28 ashimema    thanks..
07:28 ashimema    that's an early version of the patch I had.. it's nice to know I wasn't as far off as I'de thought..
07:29 ashimema    I'de ended up trying a whole host of other solutions which all failed.. like passing in the supression before the build query.. and varouse other things..
07:29 ashimema    thanks dcook..
07:30 gaetan_B    hello
07:35 dcook       no worries, ashimema :)
07:35 dcook       Yeah, I'm a bit impressed by the lengths I went to as well, haha
07:36 dcook       That night you told me about the problem, I was annoyed that I couldn't figure out the solution from the docs...
07:36 dcook       But then I realized that a few simple tests would easily prove it
07:36 * dcook     literally added records "A","B","C","D", and "E" to a Koha database
07:36 dcook       hey, gaetan_B :)
07:36 dcook       cait: I prefer too many to too few as well :)
07:37 * dcook     has confirmation on dinner plans!
07:37 ashimema    There is one bit I'm still a tad confused by though
07:37 ashimema    I think i've got muddled somehow with regards to when a query should and shouldn't be ccl vs pqf..
07:38 ashimema    you seemed to do an about turn on the 'we'll need to do a regex to see if it's pqf' bit?
07:43 dcook       Ah, yeah
07:44 dcook       Apparently when buildQuery creates a pqf query, it returns "pqf"
07:44 dcook       In $query_lang or something like that
07:44 dcook       Ordinarily, when it's our badly parsed query, that variable is empty
07:48 dcook       But gotta run for dinner
07:48 dcook       :)
07:48 dcook       ashimema: PM me if you have any more questions :)
07:48 ashimema    So.. in my patch, I use the QP variable to work out whether to append the opacsurpession stuff before or after the buildquery statement.. then I add it one way before and a different way after.
07:49 ashimema    I'm wondering if that's still the right way to go about it..
07:49 dcook       Oooo right
07:49 ashimema    (it's gonna be a hack with the curent state whatever ;) )
07:49 ashimema    nietherof us has to time to re-rwite search right now ;)
07:49 dcook       I suppose I'd probably not use your patch actually :/
07:49 ashimema    that's what I thought :)
07:49 dcook       I'd probably do a new one and use that return value from buildQuery to see if it's pqf or not
07:50 dcook       Then hack it before it goes to getRecords
07:50 ashimema    That makes sense.
07:50 dcook       But gotta run! Have a good day/night/time of day!
07:50 dcook       night all
07:50 wahanui     goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
07:50 ashimema    night mate.. have a good one.
08:21 marcelr     hi #koha
08:24 cait        hi marcelr :)
08:24 marcelr     hi cait
08:25 cait        i am looking for someone being able to test ldap or sip... could I persuade you to take on one of those?
08:25 cait        also someone giving the CAS patch another try, as I am failing miserably
08:26 cait        ashimema? :) talking to you too! :)
08:26 marcelr     :)
08:26 ashimema    Hi cait..
08:27 ashimema    I can try to fit one in.. a tad busy at the moment :(
08:27 ashimema    Is there anything public to test against CAS wise?
08:27 cait        biblibre has provided a test server
08:27 ashimema    we've never used it here.
08:27 cait        if you drop matthias an email i think he can give you the certificate and data
08:27 ashimema    i'll have  aread of the patch first.
08:27 cait        matts around?
08:28 matts       cait, around
08:28 cait        matts: i am trying to find another tester for CAS - I think i am stuck with it
08:29 cait        and maybe it's something in my setip
08:29 cait        setup
08:29 matts       yes, if someone drops me an email, I'll be glad to transfer the certificate and instructions
08:57 cait        Joubu++ thx for fixing 12323
09:15 cait        hm someone biblibre around?
09:15 cait        Joubu?
09:15 wahanui     Joubu is not his irc name?
09:16 cait        forget Joubu
09:16 wahanui     cait: I forgot joubu
09:19 Joubu       cait: yep
09:19 Joubu       I have seen your pm
09:20 cait        ok :)
09:32 jajm        cait, I sent a follow up to bug 7162 for (Y)/(N) removal, should I change bug status ?
09:32 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7162 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , Factorize code for order cancellation
09:34 cait        jajm: hm, it's not yet pushed, i will try to take a look tonight
09:34 cait        shoudl be small enough for a qa follow up
09:34 jajm        ok, thanks
09:34 cait        switch to signed off? i will reset when tested?
09:35 jajm        ok changed to signed off
09:35 cait        ah i see not just changed the strings
09:35 cait        what does the onclick="window.location='[% referrer %]';return false;" / do?
09:36 cait        asking to make it quicker :)
09:38 jajm        cait, i changed only the strings, the onclick attribute makes you go back to the previous page when you click on "No"
09:39 cait        cool, shoudl be quick
09:39 cait        just has to wait for tonight
11:38 * cait      waves
11:42 cait        gmcharlt: ping?
11:42 wahanui     Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-about-Reading-Railroad-Books/dp/0448421658
11:50 cait        tcohen: ping?
11:50 wahanui     Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-about-Reading-Railroad-Books/dp/0448421658
12:34 tcohen      morning !
12:34 tcohen      @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:34 huginn      tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 9.8°C (9:30 AM ART on July 21, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
12:35 cait        good morning tcohen...
12:35 cait        and he already left again? :)
12:38 tcohen      QA people, you're going too fast, my queue is filling fast :-P
12:38 tcohen      qa++
12:39 cait        heh, it's our job!
12:43 gerundio    hi
12:43 wahanui     hello, gerundio
12:44 gerundio    any koha-auth expert around?
12:44 gerundio    I've having a hard time linking auth and biblio records for a given authority type
12:47 gerundio    can't really figure out why author records matching is failing
12:50 gerundio    http://paste.koha-community.org/108
12:51 gerundio    I've managed to index other 2 authority types which seemed more complex for starters
12:51 gerundio    these one seems pretty straightforward but somehow is failling
12:52 gerundio    I've performed several tests and have been trying to work with a single AUT record
12:52 gerundio    as shown in the paste above
12:53 gerundio    no matter what I do I always get the "WARNING: authority not found" for each of the records of this authority type
14:08 tcohen      Joubu: around?
14:09 Joubu       tcohen: completly annoyed, but around yes
14:25 lovetruth   hello
14:26 lovetruth   I installed koha as root
14:26 lovetruth   and got this error
14:26 lovetruth   http://scsys.co.uk:8002/408991
14:26 lovetruth   here's DBI.pm http://scsys.co.uk:8002/408993
14:27 lovetruth   and 2064 line http://scsys.co.uk:8002/408994
14:30 lovetruth   should I just reinstall it?...
14:30 cait        lovetruth: have you run the webinstaller yet?
14:31 lovetruth   I have the error on opening the web page
14:31 jcamins     lovetruth: when you say you installed Koha as root, what do you mean?
14:33 lovetruth   I meant I gave all commands as root
14:33 lovetruth   su
14:33 lovetruth   and then all the rest
14:33 jcamins     What commands?
14:33 wahanui     commands are the one that i posted above
14:33 lovetruth   using http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD
14:33 jcamins     Ah.
14:34 jcamins     What I would recommend is following the instructions for installing Koha using packages.
14:39 lovetruth   which instructions?... apt-get install koha-common?...
14:40 jcamins     packages?
14:40 wahanui     somebody said packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
14:40 jcamins     ^^ those
14:40 wahanui     ^^ those are the ones still 100ms and greater
14:40 lovetruth   and how do I completely safely uninstall it then?...
14:40 lovetruth   to do as you said?...
14:41 jcamins     No idea.
14:41 jcamins     You could probably just remove the source directory and then start on the packages.
14:42 jcamins     Unless you installed libraries using CPAN or some other non-apt method, in which case I have no idea what state your system would be in. I haven't used the deprecated instructions in years.
14:43 lovetruth   jcamins, I've used cpan and cpanm
14:43 jcamins     In that case, I can't give you any advice, sorry.
14:44 jcamins     I just haven't worked on a system set up that way in far too long to be comfortable telling you what you should do.
15:04 reiveune    bye
15:13 cait        @later tell bgkriegel there is something weird with our po files and poedit - it claims there is an untranslated string ineach file... which i can't find :( maybe a bug in poedit?
15:13 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
15:15 cait        hm i think i definitely missed the right moment ot leave...
15:15 cait        ... RAIN.
15:16 cait        lots of it
15:36 Joubu       Someone tried to apply 11911 on sandbox 1. It's not possible, there is no patch applied on the bug report.
15:36 Joubu       s/11911/11944
15:36 Joubu       to test 11944, please use sandbox 6 and 16
15:40 Joubu       see you
15:56 cbrannon    Is there a meeting going on?
15:57 cbrannon    barton: are you in?
15:58 gaetan_B    bye!
15:58 barton      yes!
15:59 cbrannon    barton, do you know if there is a problem with printing under the new opac bootstrap theme?
15:59 barton      not that I'm aware of ...
16:00 cbrannon    I've tried it from IE and FF, and when I try to print the search results page, I see a whole mess of odd links.  Can you confirm?
16:01 barton      sure. Is there a particular URL that you're trying to print?
16:01 barton      or is it anything on in the OPAC?
16:01 cbrannon    nope.  Just search for something.  When you get results on the opac (bootstrap theme), print the page.
16:01 cbrannon    I seems like anything.  And it could be more than just the results.
16:03 cbrannon    Looks like the links are printed, even if I print the home page on the OPAC.
16:05 barton      cbrannon -- yeah, now that I print that out, it does look familiar...
16:05 barton      I think that there's a bug open for that; lemme see if I can find it.
16:06 cbrannon    I couldn't find any bugs listed, but maybe I'm not searching correctly.
16:07 barton      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12073
16:07 huginn      04Bug 12073: minor, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , OPAC detail page printing show links URL
16:08 cbrannon    Thanks.  I'll put in a request for that patch.
16:37 lovetruth   hello
16:37 wahanui     hola, lovetruth
16:37 lovetruth   I'm trying to install koha
16:37 lovetruth   Xubuntu 12.04
16:37 lovetruth   x64
16:37 lovetruth   a2ensite library
16:38 lovetruth   keeps telling me      ERROR: Site library does not exist!
16:38 lovetruth   c'mon!...
16:39 lovetruth   so?...
16:41 cait        did you create the instance first?
16:41 lovetruth   what do you mean?...
16:41 lovetruth   --create-db?
16:42 cait        koha-create --create-db library
16:42 lovetruth   yes
16:42 lovetruth   created it
16:42 lovetruth   removed it
16:42 lovetruth   created it again
16:42 cait        you shouldn't need to do the a2ensite bit i think
16:42 cait        it should do it itself
16:42 lovetruth   (removed with koha-remove library)
16:42 lovetruth   then why it does not exist?...
16:43 cait        andit's probably library.conf
16:43 cait        maybe
16:43 cait        not sure
16:43 lovetruth   then I should just continue along?...
16:43 cait        you could check your sited-enabled sites-available
16:43 cait        have you checked yet if you can access it?
16:43 lovetruth   you mean the apache/sites-available
16:43 cait        yes
16:43 lovetruth   I'm doing everything as root
16:43 cait        for packages that's alright
16:44 lovetruth   :/etc# ls apache2/sites-available/
16:44 lovetruth   gives    default  default-ssl  library.conf
16:44 cait        loooksok then
16:44 cait        you might want to turn off the default
16:44 lovetruth   although library.conf is empty
16:44 cait        a2dissite defaut i think
16:44 cait        hmi thnmk it's a symlink
16:45 lovetruth   -rw-r----- 1 root library-koha    0 Jul 21 19:32 library.conf
16:45 lovetruth   that from ls -l
16:45 cait        i can't really check right now
16:46 lovetruth   well it's not, at my pc
16:46 lovetruth   it should be ?...
16:46 cait        did you set up the sites.conf? after the koha-create if that went right, you should be able to access your installatio
16:46 cait        i amo
16:46 cait        sorry
16:46 cait        maybe i got the file name a bit wrong, there is a conf file on how the instances should be created
16:46 cait        if you are running koha not on 80 only, you might also want to add the other ports to your apache config
16:48 lovetruth   library.conf is emtpy
16:48 lovetruth   empty*
16:48 cait        i amnot sure whatwentwrong
16:48 cait        maybe try creating an instance with another name for testing
16:48 cait        it should set up everything automatically
16:48 cait        packages?
16:48 wahanui     packages is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
16:58 lovetruth   how can I clean reinstall??
17:00 cait        i guess you can remove the packages and readd them, but i am not sure if that will remove all files of the already created instance
17:00 lovetruth   sorry, but quite stupid setup has this koha... for now, at least, then... :)
17:04 cait        once you figured it out, it will be very easy next time
17:04 cait        i think your problem might be having tried a normal instance first
17:04 cait        so you expect to have to do things differently mybe
17:25 pianohacker yo
17:26 cait        yo pianohacker
17:26 pianohacker hey cait :)
17:26 cait        how are things?
17:27 pianohacker Good! Just working now for the next month before I head back to grad school, so life is much less chaotic
17:27 pianohacker you?
17:27 cait        so flood of patches soon? :)
17:27 cait        bit stressed as always,lots to do, not nearly enough time in a day :)
17:28 ashimema    evening pianohacker
17:29 pianohacker hi ashimema!
17:29 pianohacker cait: besides a patch for bug 11211 (is that the right one?)
17:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
17:30 pianohacker (yes, it is) I've been more busy with support work
17:30 cait        pianohacker: i was hoping rancorupdate :)
17:30 cait        time is running you know,... tick tick... 3.18 :)
17:31 pianohacker don't worry, that's on the docket
17:34 lovetruth   ok, managed to the web installer
17:34 lovetruth   but can't login
17:34 lovetruth   what can I do?...
17:35 cait        there is a command you can run to find out the password
17:35 cait        packages?
17:35 wahanui     packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
17:35 cait        look for password there
17:36 lovetruth   yes, it gave me some girbish
17:36 cait        this user is only for creating you ar eal user and for running updates
17:36 cait        the gibberisch is probably the password
17:36 cait        the login name will be
17:36 cait        hm library_koha or koha_library
17:36 cait        i always confuse those
17:37 cait        koha_instancename
17:37 lovetruth   i've chosen differently. my instance name is koha
17:37 cait        hm guess it's koha_koha then
17:37 lovetruth   but koha_koha with the gibberisch didn't work
17:38 cait        did you check the xml file directly?
17:39 lovetruth   yes
17:39 lovetruth   where it should be?
17:40 cait        /etc/koha/sites/instancename/koha-conf.xml
17:40 cait        you are looking for the db_user
17:40 lovetruth   looked and found some koha_koha
17:41 lovetruth   it's  <user>koha_koha</user>
17:41 lovetruth   and <pass> under
17:41 cait        and the passwort gibberish?
17:41 lovetruth   yes
17:41 lovetruth   but doesn't work
17:41 cait        hm that shuld work then
17:41 lovetruth   what can I do?...
17:42 cait        check if there is more than one koha_koha appearing
17:42 lovetruth   only one
17:42 cait        hm that should work then
17:42 lovetruth   actually there is <database>koha_koha
17:42 lovetruth   and <user>koha_koha
17:42 lovetruth   but only one user
17:43 lovetruth   how can I fix it?
17:44 cait        i think the xml file looks correct
17:44 cait        i am not sure what went wrong
17:44 cait        could it be you are actually seeing the web installer for an ealrier created instance?
17:45 cait        is there another instance maybe?
17:45 lovetruth   i don't think so
17:45 lovetruth   removed everything and reinstalled
17:45 lovetruth   and it didn't work
17:45 lovetruth   but after installing this, it worked
17:45 lovetruth   how can I check?
17:45 cait        i think there woudl be another directory
17:45 cait        with a xml file then
17:47 lovetruth   I'll catfish it
17:47 lovetruth   search in all pc
17:47 tcohen      hi
17:55 cait        hi tcohen
17:55 cait        tcohen: do you knwo any reason the database password for an instance wouldn't work?
17:56 lovetruth   you were right, cait  :)
17:57 cait        oh?
17:57 lovetruth   had a previous koha-conf.xml file :)
17:57 lovetruth   worked with that :)
17:57 lovetruth   I assume I can delete the other conf xml file?
17:59 cait        i'd keep it for now
17:59 cait        being a bit careful with deleting :)
17:59 jcamins     lovetruth: you should be looking at the file in /etc/koha/sites/koha/ . If that is not the case, that's bad.
17:59 jcamins     I wouldn't delete anything, however.
18:01 lovetruth   jcamins, that is the point
18:01 lovetruth   the password from there didn't work
18:01 lovetruth   but the one from /etc/koha
18:01 lovetruth   and on /etc/koha was the previous install
18:01 lovetruth   which didn't work... and reinstalled it
18:02 jcamins     lovetruth: in that case, you're not using the installation the packages did, and I would anticipate everything being broken.
18:02 lovetruth   and now works with this new installation, but... strangely... it uses that conf.xml file
18:02 cait        i think maybe by installing the packaging dependencies
18:02 jcamins     Probably in somewhat subtle ways.
18:02 lovetruth   jcamins, I installed using some http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD
18:02 cait        you fixed your problem with the non pakace install
18:02 lovetruth   and used cpan and cpanm to install it
18:03 lovetruth   fixed all dependencies
18:03 jcamins     lovetruth: oh, I thought you were switching to using a package install.
18:03 cait        jcamins: he was...
18:03 lovetruth   but gave some error on some code on DBI.pm
18:03 lovetruth   so I decided to remove everything
18:03 lovetruth   and install using apt-get and so on
18:03 jcamins     As long as you're aware that you don't have a package installation, you're good.
18:03 jcamins     cait: ah, so, not good at all.
18:04 * jcamins   shares some fruit salad.
18:04 lovetruth   so installed koha-common and koha stuff there in synaptic
18:04 cait        heh thx
18:04 cait        i tihnk you are looking at the wrong urls for the package install now
18:04 lovetruth   and used some ubuntu 12 precise tutorial for koha install using apt-get
18:04 cait        what url are you looking at for the web installer?
18:05 lovetruth   standard koha:8080
18:05 jcamins     You used a tutorial other than the one at:
18:05 jcamins     packages?
18:05 wahanui     i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
18:05 cait        lovetruth: yeah, that looks not like a package url if you didn't change the standard settings i think
18:06 lovetruth   well, it was some other site, but it contained kinda same thing
18:06 lovetruth   I chose the standard settings
18:06 jcamins     Yikes. I hope this isn't a production install.
18:06 cait        what does your /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf look like?
18:07 lovetruth   well, it's http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu;hb=HEAD
18:07 lovetruth   cait, what do you mean?
18:07 cait        did you change the file and what does it look like?
18:07 cait        it's the file that has the necessary settings for creating an install and what the urls should look like
18:07 lovetruth   I didn't manually change anything in it
18:08 lovetruth   -rw-r----- 1 root www-data  6411 Jul 21 20:25 koha-conf.xml
18:10 cait        if you look at the file
18:10 cait        you see it's used to tell koha what urls will be used for opac and staff
18:10 cait        the default will not work well on localhost i think
18:10 cait        http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=debian/templates/koha-sites.conf;h=c14cb3d5de476f9fb8437db9d94da3dbec1ec859;hb=54efd3d17955bfd3a9623d7e7f7ac426786896f8
18:11 lovetruth   ah, modified the koha-sites.conf
18:11 lovetruth   I did modified that :)
18:11 lovetruth   modify* :)
18:11 lovetruth   thanks
18:11 cait        the ones with intra should tell you how to access your instance
18:11 lovetruth   does it have Romanian?...
18:12 lovetruth   can I add language?...
18:14 lovetruth   Koha version: 	3.16.01.000
18:14 cait        translations?
18:14 wahanui     hmmm... translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/
18:14 cait        you can look up there how much of a language for a version is translated
18:15 lovetruth   Readonly::XS 	Not Installed
18:15 lovetruth   should I manually install it?
18:15 lovetruth   using what, cpan?
18:16 cait        which OS are you installing on?
18:16 lovetruth   xubuntu 12.04
18:16 lovetruth   x64
18:19 cait        hm
18:20 cait        normally you don't need to cpan things, it shoudl be there from installing the packages
18:20 cait        but not sure about xubuntu
18:21 lovetruth   xubuntu is ubuntu with sort of xfce interface
18:22 tcohen      cait: should we add to the dev meeting that we are moving to dancer?
18:23 cait        oh i thought we were moving to python
18:23 tcohen      http://www.perldancer.org/
18:23 tcohen      every1 agreed actually: http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2014-07-18#i_1538097
18:28 * wajasu    i experimented in writing koha in golang. would think that is a feasable option someday.
18:35 pianohacker tcohen: I'm working on dealing with a massive JS chunk that is slowing page loads in Rancor
18:35 pianohacker tcohen: and https://metacpan.org/release/CGI-Compress-Gzip is the easiest way I've found to deal with it. The downside is it has no package. Is that a problem?
18:35 tcohen      you should contact eythian
18:37 cait        hm maybe also oleonard could have an idea?
18:37 tcohen      pianohacker: isn't that gracefuly handled by Apache?
18:37 cait        compress and gzip. thought i had heard that before
18:38 pianohacker tcohen: this is dynamically generated JS (framework dump) so I don't think it does so atm
18:38 pianohacker maybe the config could be changed for it to do so
18:39 tcohen      it seems to me that the headers might be wrongly sent
18:39 tcohen      have you checked on browser debuggers
18:39 tcohen      if it is already compressed?
18:40 tcohen      on the other hand, contact eythian for adding new packages to the repo
18:40 pianohacker kk will do
18:40 * tcohen    is checking the package builds in precise
18:41 jcamins     Let's rewrite Koha in JAVA!
18:41 cait        lol
18:41 cait        you are late!
18:41 jcamins     And by "'s" I mean "you guys."
18:42 * tcohen    likes troll-mode jcamins
18:46 jcamins     Dyrcona told me how to get into it. Meta-control-t.
18:46 jcamins     tcohen++
18:48 Dyrcona     I thought it was <Escape> : troll-mode ? ;)
18:50 tcohen      Dyrcona: Ctrl-k t in Sublime
18:51 Dyrcona     Meta-X now-i-have-carpal-tunnel-syndrome
18:54 tcohen      heh
19:03 bgkriegel   Hi all
19:04 bgkriegel   cait: no problem for me with poedit and de-DE 3.16/4/2 files, all 100% translated
19:04 cait        bgkriegel: yeah it's totally weird :(
19:04 cait        bgkriegel: thx for checking! I requested an update of my poedit version (can't install on my windows work computer myself)
19:04 cait        will see if that fixes it
19:05 bgkriegel   just downloaded and open all of them
19:05 cait        yeah did the same, it was really weird, consistently on  all files and all versions (3.12, 3.14, 3.16)
19:05 cait        always one untranslated line
19:05 bgkriegel   mmm...
19:06 cait        i will see tomorrow with a newer poedit version
19:08 phasefx2    hey folks, I have a debian squeeze system that was running 3.12.. I added deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main and got it up to 3.13, and I thought that running koha-upgrade-schema would get it to 3.16, but that command isn't doing anything.  Am I missing something?  I could purge it all and reinstall; there's no critical data there
19:08 tcohen      you mean 3.14?
19:09 phasefx2    the installed package is 3.16.01
19:09 phasefx2    koha-common
19:09 wahanui     koha-common is probably the one you want, the main koha one needs a bit more work (its for setting up a single instance)
19:09 phasefx2    so I think my pain is going from stock debian to community repo
19:10 tcohen      could you do apt-cache policy koha-common and paste the output?
19:10 phasefx2    so that's probably it, koha-upgrade-schema is expecting a multi-instance layout?
19:11 phasefx2    koha-common: Installed: 3.16.01 Candidate: 3.16.01 Version table: *** 3.16.01 0 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
19:12 phasefx2    about.pl is telling me 3.13.00.008
19:13 phasefx2    hrmm.. this was also a git-based install at one point.. oy
19:15 pastebot    "bgkriegel" at 200.16.31.6 pasted "cait: output from pofilter searching for untranslated strings (3.16/14/12)" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/109
19:15 bgkriegel   cait: running files using pofilter, no one untranslated
19:15 * phasefx2  is just going to purge and reinstall.. thanks folks :)
19:17 tcohen      hey, while Carrie is around, now "Cristina" apeeared
19:20 * wajasu    doing a 3.16.1 install now
19:23 tcohen      pianohacker: it seems to build smoothly
19:24 pianohacker woot thanks tcohen
19:24 tcohen      bye #koha
19:28 cait        @later tell bgkriegel - thx for double checking! i guess it' sreally something with my poedit version
19:28 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
19:28 cait        bgkriegel++
19:28 cait        tcohen++
19:29 cait        @later tell tcohen we want to use the RESTful API for ILL, but it's not in production yet, I think we can adapt - cleaner APIs are good
19:29 huginn      cait: The operation succeeded.
19:46 rangi       morning
19:48 pianohacker hi rangi
19:48 cait        morning rangi
20:28 kathryn     hi cait :)
20:28 cait        hi kathryn :)
20:39 rhcl        Well, I thought it was funny.
21:17 pianohacker rhcl: ?
21:52 eythian     hi
21:52 cait        hi eythian :)
21:55 jburds_     Does anyone use Google Analytics to track searching on their OPAC?
21:55 cait        one could
21:55 rangi       piwik works better
21:55 jburds_     Trying to figure out the best way to show usage
21:56 rangi       and respects privacy a lot more
21:56 cait        jburds_: here it would be a big privacy problem
21:56 rangi       http://piwik.org/
22:01 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11347 - PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove opacsmallimage system-preference <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a77c4a38c106373a37e6cca9a50b5350819c1f1> / Bug 12519 - Convert OPAC list download pop-up to modal dialog <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e185aaf19b1efeee342fc32a35323a0a9ea03a58>
22:30 eythian     @later tell pianohacker https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755541
22:30 huginn      eythian: The operation succeeded.
22:30 eythian     oh, you're actually here.
22:30 eythian     pianohacker: ^^
22:30 pianohacker hi eythian
22:30 eythian     subscribe to that and you'll get dibs when it comes out.
22:30 eythian     I won't put it into the Koha repo until it's acctually needed, that place is messy enough as is.
22:30 pianohacker eythian++
22:30 pianohacker you rock man
22:31 pianohacker I think at this point I owe you not a pint but a growler :P
22:31 rangi       hoping to get the others that arent in, before the next stable release anyway .. hopefully so we can clean up the koha repo
22:31 * eythian   needs to overhaul the package building process for dependencies
22:32 eythian     yeah, quite a few are in there, but I need to identify all those that aren't.
22:32 rangi       *nod*
22:32 rangi       be cool if we could do something like the entropy tracker
22:32 rangi       http://pet.debian.net/pkg-perl/pet.cgi
22:32 rangi       but just for the ones we care about
22:33 eythian     https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=robin@catalyst.net.nz <-- not quite the same thing, but... :)
22:33 rangi       yep
22:33 rangi       https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=chrisc%40catalyst.net.nz
22:33 rangi       combine those 2 and we get most of them
22:34 rangi       oh you can
22:35 eythian     I should do some updates on some of my ones that have new upstreams
22:35 rangi       https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=chrisc%40catalyst.net.nz+robin%40catalyst.net.nz&comaint=yes
22:36 rangi       hmm or maybe not
22:36 rangi       https://qa.debian.org/developer.php
22:36 rangi       it says you can
23:44 dcook       Ooo, excited about the DataTables Colvis stuff...
23:44 * dcook     actually hasn't looked but really wants to be able to hide columns easily...