Time Nick Message 00:14 dcook bug 11349 00:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11349 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Patch doesn't apply , PROG/CCSR deprecation: Remove .tmpl -> .tt translation 01:51 eythian @wunder nzwn 01:51 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (1:30 PM NZST on July 17, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 01:51 eythian "Scattered Clouds" my butt 02:07 eythian http://i.imgur.com/RPsqjUb.jpg <-- the future 03:11 dcook Hmm, I don't think issues.issuingbranch is a thing anymore... 03:11 dcook Unless I'm missing something, it seems to never be used 03:11 dcook Except I have data that says that it does... 03:11 * dcook wonders if that's from a third-party app... 03:12 dcook Mmm, I'm thinking yes...not part of Koha.. 04:11 eythian http://youtu.be/w-0TEJMJOhk 04:12 eythian make sure you watch past 1:30 04:14 * wizzyrea flags that for later 04:43 * dcook takes a look at letter.pl and shudders 04:44 * cait waves 04:44 dcook heya cait, irma 04:47 eythian hi cait 04:47 cait hi eythian and dcook 04:47 eythian there seems to only be one child left. 04:55 rangi Francesca: <li class="current_page_item"></li> 04:56 * cait waves at rangi too 04:56 rangi hey cait 05:29 dcook self: "Why isn't that email address updating!?" 05:29 dcook dcook: "It's probably because you commented out that code." 05:30 dcook self: "Oh...yeah...that would do it..." 05:30 eythian man, I'm never that helpful to myself 05:30 dcook We like working as a team :D 05:32 dcook eythian: How is ElasticSearch going? 05:32 eythian temorarily on hold while I work on a migration 05:33 dcook Same one as before or new one? 05:33 eythian I'm not sure 05:33 * dcook says with no real reference at all to "before" 05:33 eythian they all blend into one 05:33 dcook MARC is a bit traumatic 05:33 eythian right now I'm working on a talk that I'm giving tomorrow 05:33 eythian yeah, it is 05:33 dcook Sweet. What are you going to talk about? 05:34 eythian how GPG and debian packaging interact 05:34 eythian dry, but short :) 05:34 eythian but I need to do a lot of research to make sure I'm saying correct things 05:36 dcook Mmm, that's always handy 05:36 dcook Truth is good 05:38 eythian discovered a few points where things work differently to what I thought 05:41 dcook Ain't that always the way 06:33 ashimema Morning.. 06:33 wahanui i heard morning was a state of the cait 06:39 reiveune hello 06:47 marcelr hi #koha 06:55 cait good morning #koha 06:56 marcelr hi cait 06:56 cait hi marcelr :) 06:56 cait i saw you are working on sru again, that's nice 06:57 marcelr :) 07:01 alex_a bonjour 07:01 cait bonjour alex_a 07:07 petter hello koha 07:07 cait hi yohann and hi petter :) 07:07 yohann hi cait 07:07 petter hi cait! 07:22 petter Any Biblibre people here? 07:33 cait Joubu: ping? 07:33 wahanui Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-about-Reading-Railroad-Books/dp/0448421658 07:33 Joubu petter: yep 07:34 petter So I was wondering about koha-restful 07:34 petter What are your plans? 07:34 petter Will it be included in Koha? 07:35 petter The reason I'm asking is because I though to add some functionality to the svc endpoint, but I think koha-restull is a much better basis to build on 07:36 cait not sure it counts... but i'd love to see the svc extended as we use it for ILL :) 07:36 petter sure, but wouldnt it be better to ditch svc in favor for koha-restfull? 07:37 petter its much more complete and has a good organization 07:37 petter which can easily be expanded 07:38 cait I haven't taken a look at it yet, so that's better questions for Joubu i think 07:38 cait my only worry is that it's separate from Koha righ tnow, so not sure how up to date and if it needs to get updated with changes made etc. 07:39 petter yes that's a valid concern off course 07:39 petter but unless svc it actually has test coverage :) 07:40 Joubu petter: we don't plan to include koha-resful in Koha 07:40 petter ok, good to know 07:40 cait not sure, could it move to the standard repo, contribs or the like maybe? 07:41 Joubu petter: there are some reasons: 1/ it's only tested on 3.10 and 3.12. 2/ There are not enought unit test to prove it will work for all futur versions 07:41 gaetan_B hello 07:41 wahanui hello, gaetan_B 07:41 Joubu 3/ It is quite difficult to integrate stuff in master (delay, rebase, etc.) 07:41 petter sure 07:42 petter So how do you use koha-restfull? 07:42 petter In cojunction with Drupal? 07:44 Joubu petter: with weeke, booke and others applications needing Koha's information. 07:46 petter so you will likely continue to maintain it and update it? 07:46 Joubu petter: if you have patches, you can sent them to someone at BibLibre, jajm will have a look 07:47 Joubu petter: yes, of course. We use it! 07:47 petter Great, good to know :) 07:48 petter I'm just evaluating it now, I haven't started doing anything yet 07:48 Joubu (s/booke/bokeh) 08:40 cait does someone know if it's possible that an item on the shelf goes directly into waiting status? 08:41 cait i thought we had a pref, but can't find it 08:45 cait i think i foudn the one i was thining about 08:45 cait Reseveneedsreturn 08:45 cait s 10:54 marcelr bug 6536 is ready for takeoff 10:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Z3950 Search Enhancements: SRU targets and additional XSLT processing 11:00 cait marcelr++ 11:08 cait @quote get 123 11:08 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 11:08 huginn cait: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 12:52 tcohen mrning 13:05 rhcl It's morning 13:09 nengard hi all 13:15 oleonard Hi #koha 13:18 marcelr hi oleonard 13:26 tcohen @seen dpavlin 13:26 huginn tcohen: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 17 weeks, 2 days, 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <dpavlin> on current master, it seems that zebra search in opac dies with ZOOM error 20003 "can't set prefix query" - is there existing bug for that? 13:26 tcohen hm 13:29 Joubu oleonard: do you think you could find some time to test/so bug 10212? 13:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Columns configuration for tables 13:40 Joubu Does someone know why aqorders.budget_id is not linked (FK) to aqbudget.budget_id? 13:40 Joubu IMO it should 13:40 Joubu (it's mandatory in the interface, on creating an order) 13:41 Joubu but maybe it is archeological 13:43 nengard seems like an oversight ... 13:44 Joubu nengard: but I have some "0" for aqorders.budget_id in my DB test 13:44 Joubu but not sure it's relevant, since I used it for testing 13:45 Joubu I am going to check on a production machine 14:06 oleonard Joubu: Yes 14:24 tcohen is it possible to make bugzilla show "Bug #: " instead of "Bug # - # ? 14:25 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11349: (qa follow-up) Fix pod <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f052756e3bf430040412badc02107aa28c7a543> / Bug 11349: Make the QA script happy <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=23239572507dd84dc428f72b3f5cb34ce7633286> / Bug 11349: Remove unnecesary name translation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2a650d12465fa4082e8bbe1a221 14:26 tcohen bye bye tmpl 14:47 oleonard There is a certain non-ascii character (or characters?) which, when found in an item record, causes the detail page to crash (Error 500) 14:48 oleonard http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=152618 14:48 oleonard Has anyone run across this before? 14:49 oleonard In my system I find it in itemcallnumber. It shows up as one of those weird character boxes. 14:49 nengard I saw it on a bib record 14:49 nengard it was a / 14:49 nengard which isn't non-ascii .... 14:50 nengard wait it was a \ 14:50 nengard sorry ... so tired this week 14:51 tcohen oleonard: logs? 14:51 wahanui rumour has it logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/ 14:52 oleonard tcohen: I'll see if I can reproduce it in my test system 14:52 tcohen oleonard: it happened to us once, a library used '&' in the itemcallnumber 14:52 tcohen and it broke 14:52 oleonard Looks like it might be this: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%1E 14:53 tcohen don't see it 14:54 oleonard If I try to manually edit an item record to add that character the add item process fails: :18: parser error : PCDATA invalid Char value 30 14:55 tcohen so, two bugs 14:56 * cait-m__ waves from the airport 14:59 oleonard Where are you going cait-m__ ? 14:59 cait-m__ koha workshop with a library 15:00 cait-m__ answering questions mostly :) 15:06 tcohen cait-m__: hi :-D how is it going? 15:06 cait-m__ its tomorrow 15:06 cait-m__ travelling this afternoon 15:06 tcohen good luck 15:07 cait-m__ thx :) 15:09 cait-m__ tcohen: arent you on vacation? 15:09 tcohen why? :-) 15:10 cait-m__ bec you said so :) 15:11 tcohen i am 15:12 cait-m__ :) 15:12 * druthb waves to cait-m__ 15:12 * druthb waves to tcohen, who shouldn't be here, too. 15:13 tcohen hi druthb 15:14 nengard hiya druthb and all i missed 15:14 * druthb waves to nengard, and goes back to writing unit tests. 15:14 liw druthb++ (unit tests are almost as heart-warming as backups) 15:15 druthb You know, writing unit tests is like hitting your hand with a hammer, over and over. It feels so very good to *stop*. 15:15 tcohen we all love unit tests 15:15 tcohen (not writing them, but having them :-P) 15:15 druthb liw: You'd like it even more if I was writing unit tests for *Koha.* But I'm not. 15:16 liw I like writing unit tests, but only if I'm writing them for a clean code base and for code that doesn't exist yet, or changes to be made; writing unit tests afterwards is like trying to drink the Empire State Building 15:17 tcohen heh 15:17 cait-m__ :) 15:17 druthb s/Building/Building, through a skinny, skinny straw/; 15:18 cait-m__ dont discourage devs plz :) 15:18 druthb I'm writing unit tests on a 17-year-old codebase that was, in fact, originally developed by a 15-year-old. Who is now the 32-year old CEO of the company. Much pain and suffering. 15:19 liw druthb: ah, you have a chaser of Iceland, I see 15:20 druthb yep. 15:20 * jcamins is writing unit tests, then writing code that will pass it. 15:20 jcamins *them 15:20 jcamins It's glorious. 15:21 jcamins Sure, the code doesn't do anything useful right now because all it does is pass unit tests, but there's a wonderful feeling of accomplishment as the red 'x's turn into green 'o's. 15:21 tcohen its awesome 15:25 cait-m__ :) 15:27 cait-m__ boarding 15:28 reiveune bye 15:36 gaetan_B bye! 15:47 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12592 - Minor correction for C4::DelBiblio documentation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbc0462a73407116ad9029f4555f6a2f4e817587> 15:58 tcohen petter++ 16:04 jcamins I think from now on I'll listen to quickstep music when writing unit tests. 16:12 tcohen jcamins: good idea 16:31 Dyrcona jcamins: At least you didn't write the tests so that they always pass, right? ;) 17:35 jcamins Dyrcona: darn, that was a missed opportunity for feeling good about myself! 17:41 Dyrcona :) 17:50 * cait-m__ waves again 19:06 oleonard If a sub-language is chosen the menu doesn't indicate which translation is active. Should it? 19:06 oleonard http://www.screencast.com/t/0uWSrEapz3vf 19:07 jcamins oleonard: isn't that the bug you just closed? 19:07 oleonard No, the bug I just closed was for a problem where it always said "en-GB" no matter which English sublanguage was chosen 19:09 jcamins Oh, I see what you mean. 19:09 jcamins It took two minutes for the screenshot to load. 19:09 jcamins I'd think it should. 19:11 oleonard I wonder how 20:50 * cait waves 21:10 cait bag: around? 21:15 wizzyrea oleonard - we've seen crashy records with non-ascii characters as well 21:15 wizzyrea usually it comes from copy/pasting from word 21:16 cait hi wizzyrea :) 21:16 wizzyrea hi 21:17 eternalsword where should one look to debug z39.50 lookups? from koha to LoC. I have an older system that works (3.11.00.026) and a newer that shows no results (3.17.00.009) 21:17 cait are both targets set up the same? 21:17 eternalsword same LoC configuration. 21:17 cait administration > z39.50 targets 21:18 wizzyrea you can use yaz client to see if you can connect to the target from the command line 21:18 wizzyrea if it doesn't work there, it won't work from koha 21:18 wizzyrea yaz-client z3950.loc.gov:7090 21:19 eternalsword yaz client connected fine. how would I do a lookup to test? 21:20 wizzyrea base LCDB 21:20 wizzyrea then f your query 21:21 wizzyrea if all of that works, then you probably have a typo or a space in your z39.50 definitions in Administration -> z39.50 targets 21:21 wizzyrea or it's unimarc instead of marc21 21:21 wizzyrea or something like that 21:22 cait sometimes also firewall 21:22 cait because of unusual ports 21:22 wizzyrea yep, also firewall 21:23 wizzyrea though I'm having trouble currently with LoC 21:23 wizzyrea from one I know works. 21:23 wizzyrea it might be buste.d 21:25 wizzyrea also if you have z3950.loc.gov:7090, it's probably wrong, because they've changed the target (I just looked it up) 21:25 wizzyrea so try lx2.loc.gov:210 21:25 wizzyrea which is working just fine. 21:29 * wizzyrea stops her nattering 21:31 eternalsword okay, yaz-client works on both machines. koha works on one machine. identical configuration. 21:31 wizzyrea then it's probably a typo or a firewall rule ;) 21:32 wizzyrea more likely a firewall rule at this point. 21:32 wizzyrea though I'm not sure how. 21:32 wizzyrea since it works from the command line, 21:32 tcohen typo 21:32 wizzyrea ^ is what I meant 21:32 wizzyrea it's still earlyish here. 21:32 eternalsword not a typo. this is a migrated database. 21:33 wizzyrea did you double check? spaces can be insidious little buggers. 21:35 eternalsword no extra spaces. 21:35 eternalsword is there a debug flag I can throw? 21:39 cait you can check if there is something int he logs 21:40 wizzyrea yeah the intranet error log might tell you something 21:43 eternalsword looks like this gets thrown. Use of uninitialized value in string ne at C4/Auth.pm line 750 21:44 eternalsword looks like ne is supposed to be "not equal" not a variable. my perl is rusty and it was bad before. 21:45 eternalsword I am using starman & plack on the new system. Wonder if it's a quirk. 21:46 tcohen eternalsword: can u use yaz-client from the command line in the Koha server to successfuly reach the z39.50 target? 21:46 eternalsword yes. 21:46 tcohen and Koha sits in the same server 21:47 eternalsword yes. 21:47 tcohen those "uninitialized" warnings are harmless 21:49 eternalsword this is one of those issues that makes me want to smash something. 21:49 * tcohen agrees 21:50 tcohen i'll look at the IRC logs as I dont' know what the error message ir 21:50 tcohen is 21:50 cait good nigth all 21:50 eternalsword there's no error message. Just shows no results found when there should be results. 21:50 wizzyrea his issue is ^ 21:51 wizzyrea what is the LoC hostname you are connecting to 21:51 eternalsword lx2.loc.gov:210 21:51 wizzyrea that should be right 21:53 eternalsword Database: LCDB, Checked: Yes, Rank: 1, Syntax: USMARC, Encoding: utf8, Timeout: 0, Record type: biblio 21:53 wizzyrea yep seems right 21:55 eternalsword could I be missing perl bindings or something? 21:56 eternalsword I would think that would definitely throw error though. 21:56 wizzyrea in more -> about koha, click the modules tab 21:56 wizzyrea are you missing any? 21:57 eternalsword only the optional Readonly::XS 21:57 wizzyrea not that then. 22:02 wizzyrea brb have to reboot 22:03 * wizzyrea mutters about ubuntu ubdates that require a reboot... it isn't *&(^%**& windows. 22:03 eythian_ Only the kernel and dbus require a reboot 22:05 eternalsword although sometimes it's faster to reboot than to figure out all the services that need to be restarted. 22:06 eternalsword well, think I'll tackle this issue tomorrow. If anyone has any ideas, just address them to me. I'll either see them in the log or more likely in my scrollback buffer.