Time Nick Message 23:58 * dcook couldn't remember the order of holiday and moving 23:58 dcook Ah, right. I forgot about that. 23:58 eythian so probably either have left, or are furiously packing :) 23:57 eythian I think they are, but they're also going on holiday for a week. 23:57 dcook wizzyrea: All moved in now? 23:47 mtj awesome view wizzyrea 23:46 mtj those snakey roads! 23:45 eythian mtj: it'll be Melrose 23:44 mtj hiya eythian, tcohen 23:39 mtj is it brooklyn/melrose 23:39 mtj woah, which burb is that foto in, rangi? ^^ 23:32 eythian hello tcohen 23:32 tcohen hi eythian 23:16 huginn WNickC: The current temperature in Lebanon, New Hampshire is 28.0°C (6:53 PM EDT on July 03, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Steady). Severe Thunderstorm Watch 391 in effect until 10 PM EDT this evening... 23:16 WNickC @wunder 05048 22:33 eythian feels about right 22:33 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 22:33 eythian @wunder nzwn 22:33 eythian hi 22:25 bag nice 22:24 rangi the view from the rea's house 22:24 rangi https://twitter.com/ThatcherRea/status/484824472902328320 22:20 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.9°C (12:20 AM CEST on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). 22:20 cait @wunder konstanz 22:10 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (10:00 AM NZST on July 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 22:10 rangi @wunder nzwn 21:34 cait heh 21:34 rangi stupid GEMA 21:34 cait i'd like to - but no grooveshark here :( 21:33 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#!/ranginui/broadcast in case anyone wants to listen to my music tastes hehe 20:46 * cait waves 20:43 bag hola hankbank 20:06 cait morning rangi 19:59 rangi morning 19:53 * cait waves 19:00 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded. 19:00 oleonard @later tell tcohen It doesn't look like we make any provision for i18n of TinyMCE 18:42 tcohen bye #koha 18:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11638: Remove HTML from addbiblio.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f001cc32a3ce42262b37c6c22fe8ecbd0c32f966> / Bug 12482: (QA followup) coding guidelines for hashrefs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3c9c4b11db62bee5d98624528c524a09a0b93b0> / Bug 12482 [QA Followup] <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a66eb6e86d58bad633020cb 17:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11650 normal, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Passed QA , multiplicated authorities after link_bibs_to_authorities.pl 17:47 jcamins bug 11650 17:19 tcohen could we have problems with code relying on sorted hashes retrieved from DBIx? 17:18 tcohen DBIx experts 17:16 tcohen sorry for that 17:16 oleonard Thanks tcohen 17:15 tcohen ^^^^^^^^^oleonard 17:08 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11703: (followup) svc/holds invoked with trailing .pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9657a2c6dc92516963ffa960b7d561cdcc2dc5e8> 16:53 tcohen oleonard: heh, looks like my grep capabilities is degrading 16:25 cait oh 16:24 oleonard Oh look someone wrote software for managing summer reading programs and made it open source... only it's written in ASP and requires SQL Server :P http://greatreadingadventure.com 16:18 cait and sorry, imissed you addressed tcohen... 16:18 cait oleonard: yep, that one 16:18 oleonard http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cc316f999de2868b13840757ba45f776b6565e7 16:17 cait oleonard: we tested holds and relative's checkouts yesterday 16:17 cait oleonard: hm worked for me yesterday - could it be the follow up? 15:55 oleonard tcohen: Looks like holds.js still looks for holds.pl 15:54 oleonard tcohen: When I try to view the holds tab on the circulation page I get an error: svc/holds.pl not found 15:42 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11703: DBRev 3.17.00.009 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3bcb0f89093daddc9d30e0c393b4801d82bba23b> / Bug 11703: (qa followup) consistency in svc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cc316f999de2868b13840757ba45f776b6565e7> / Bug 11703 [QA Followup] - Change "No data available in table" to "Loading..." <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit 15:21 * cait runs off again 15:20 cait and gmcharlt++ for adding the coding guideline :) 15:19 cait Joubu: hope it can be resolved at some point 15:19 cait Joubu: argh about 11759 - i was looking forward to that - hoping it would help a little with our rfid integration 15:18 cait I am in a state of confused :) 15:18 cait anything else for me? 15:18 khall I think that settles the issue pretty well than 15:17 cait khall: for the non-xslt - both i thought 15:16 cait crazy day at work 15:16 cait sorry 15:15 khall Joubu: nope, I'll reset the status and try again. Thanks for pointing that out! I should know better ; ) 15:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11395 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Patch doesn't apply , Batch modifications for records 15:14 Joubu khall: for bug 11395, did you apply the deps? 15:12 tgoat right-o! 15:12 khall I think you probably meant to put in #bywater 15:12 gmcharlt khall: no objections 15:11 tgoat hanks .. didnt notice :) 15:11 khall tgoat: you asking the the right channel ; ) 15:11 khall gmcharlt: how do you feel about changing DEPR1 to include staff side now, based on the fact that everyone so far thought it was for both, and we can double check on the mailing list and/or staff meeting 15:11 tgoat hey bywater .. I can't get log into my bywater google business acct. anyone else having thios issue? 15:10 Joubu but maybe you can add it on the trello for the next dev meeting 15:10 khall cait appears to be away 15:10 Joubu khall: In my thoughts, it was for both too 15:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12407 major, P5 - low, ---, brendon.ford, Signed Off , phone label or data switched 15:09 khall bug 12407 has been needing qa for a while now, I can't because nengard signed it. It should be easy karma 15:07 khall Joubu: ^ 15:07 khall cait: any thoughts? ^ 15:07 khall I thought we were as well 15:06 tcohen I thought we were talking about both actually 15:05 khall that's a better idea 15:04 gmcharlt yeah, or just drop a note on the list 15:03 khall well, I guess we can bring up the staff side at the next meeting 15:03 gmcharlt my suggested wording was OPAC-only (an oversight) but I don't see that anybody commented on that until you did just now 15:02 gmcharlt khall: I'm not sure 15:01 khall gmcharlt: so we didn't decide to deprecate non-xslt for the staff intranet as well? 15:01 gmcharlt please note the latest addition to the coding guidelines, DEPR1, deprecating the non-XSLT OPAC templates per the dev meeting yesterday http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#DEPR1 15:00 reiveune bye 14:59 khall Joubu: I know the feeling too. I had that happen with a serials patch I submitted. 14:57 JesseM :) 14:57 khall Joubu: will do! 14:57 Joubu JesseM: yep, sorry, autocomplete :) 14:57 khall JesseM: yep, dang autocomplete! 14:57 Joubu khall: ok, let me know 14:57 JesseM I think you mean the other Jesse :P Pianohacker 14:56 khall Joubu: yes, I'll see if Jesse can submit a patch yet. I think it would be best to base a new version of the feature on that. It shouldn't be very hard to add batch processing to it 14:55 Joubu And I will need to rewrite it. So it would be good to know on what JesseM is working :) 14:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Batch checkout 14:54 Joubu khall: because I wrote bug 11759. It will be completely broken with 11703. 14:54 * khall can't type today 14:54 khall s/think/thank/ 14:54 khall and I think you for qa'ing! 14:54 * khall forgot about that 14:53 Joubu yes I know 11703 does not allow, I qa it :) 14:52 khall s/checkins/checkouts/ 14:52 khall in the end I think it will trivialize the ability to do batch checkins 14:51 khall that's something that would need to be added to jesse's work 14:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 14:51 khall Joubu: bug 11703 doesn't 14:50 Joubu khall: do you know if that will allow checkouts in a batch? 14:28 khall the goal of bug 11703 itself is only to make circulation.pl load as fast as possible to increase the "responsiveness" of circulation for librarians 14:25 tcohen ok 14:25 khall his work is built on top of bug 11703 14:24 khall I've seen a working proof of concept 14:24 khall that's something jesse weaver has been working on 14:24 khall the next step is to ajaxify the checkout process itself 14:24 khall tcohen: yes, that is not a bug 14:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 14:23 tcohen ref bug 11703 14:23 tcohen khall: it seems to me that checkout page is reloaded on each checkout instead of doing it asynchronously 13:55 jcamins Good morning. 13:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12451 - circulation rule cant be edited if itemtype contains a space character <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d0d54d8a929f6b3813ab3eac48b796ae05c82dfa> / Bug 8567: Set output directory for fines.pl in cron config created by the packages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0162453a1cf20f5037bdda1cdeb662283f05f5f0> 13:55 tcohen good morning jcamins! 13:55 tcohen ok! 13:55 jcamins tcohen: you should put the dates for KohaCon14 directly on the front page of the KohaCon14 section of the site. 13:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12220 - bootstrap not responsive on all devices <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e57e68820876c39053729159fdb6dc3e108a143> / Bug 12237: Remove the "horrible hack" in C4::Templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0c17a8c3aa7701cad41aeefe2347671e2a12ebf> 13:40 oleonard Weird. 13:40 bgkriegel oleonard: just tried and 11703 applies without problem 13:37 cait khall: pm :) 13:30 cait it applied on a sandbox from yesterday 13:30 cait must be another patch - patron serach? 13:30 cait hm wonder why 13:30 oleonard cait: circulation.tt and moremember.pl 13:29 wahanui the conflict is in the perldoc :) 13:29 cait oleonard: where is the conflict? 13:29 khall yo 13:29 cait khall: stil there? 13:15 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10652 - Ajaxfileupload.js failing in IE9 for local image upload <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb772f1a90624918027087b1af496377c5de7748> / Bug 12150: Add missing space and correct innerHTML typo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3058b09080c9c9f8233c149a20b73c3445f772ed> / Bug 12150 - Use more javascript string formatting in intranet for translated strings. 12:56 bgkriegel hi tcohen oleonard 12:47 oleonard Hi everyone 12:43 tcohen morning 12:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 12:22 oleonard Bug 11703 doesn't apply anymore, already? 11:45 khall cait: what's up? 11:35 bgkriegel Hi 09:16 fridolin hie all 08:06 cait hoping the german team recovers - seems a lot of them have the flu or something 08:03 cait going to watch the game with some coworkers, should be fun anyway 08:02 cait you have connections? :) 08:00 paul_p cait OK, /me calling french players to tell them to let you win now 08:00 cait hmmmmmm not sure... 07:58 paul_p cait it seems. I hope you'll still QA BibLibre patches, even if germany come back home ;-) 07:58 cait france vs. germany tomorrow? :) 07:58 cait bonjour paul_p 07:57 huginn paul_p: matts was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 50 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <matts> hello ! 07:57 paul_p @seen matts 07:57 paul_p !seen matts 07:55 cait khall_away: ping me when you are around? 07:48 cait nice :) 07:47 marcelr :) had some vacation 07:47 cait marcelr: glad to see you around :) 07:34 cait hi marcelr! 07:33 marcelr hi cait 07:17 gaetan_B hello 07:08 marcelr hi dcook 07:06 dcook hey Europeans :) 06:51 marcelr hi #koha 06:48 reiveune hello 05:58 dcook night, eythian 05:57 eythian later all. 05:57 eythian OK, I'm failing to achieve anything here, I think I should go home. 05:57 dcook Do I recall there being a Reserves rewrite? 05:56 dcook afternoon, ashimema :) 05:56 eythian hi ashimema 05:56 ashimema or evening for you ppes round the other side.. 05:56 wahanui morning is a state of cat 05:56 ashimema morning.. 05:48 dcook Alas, I think I only have time to fix the acute problem 05:40 * dcook debates fixing the acute problem or the larger bad design.. 05:39 dcook Row upon row of backwardsness perhaps.. 05:38 dcook Not even error checking.. 05:38 dcook Perhaps a total lack of error checking 05:37 * dcook is still trying to decide what is the worst about this 05:37 eythian actually, not too bad data. A badly designed data structure. 05:37 eythian dealing with bad data from a non-koha system as it is :) 05:37 * dcook will fix it in a jiffy... 05:37 dcook I certainly wouldn't bother :p 05:36 * eythian chooses not to look 05:36 dcook http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git/blob/HEAD:/C4/Items.pm#l1145 05:36 dcook C4::Items::GetItemInfosOf 05:36 dcook Nopes.. 05:35 cait hi dcook and eythian 05:35 eythian hi cait 05:34 * dcook wonders if this has been fixed in master.. 05:33 dcook heya cait :) 05:33 * cait waves sleepily 05:32 dcook Mind you, the fatal error comes due to some absolutely horrendous coding on "our" part 05:32 dcook It'll get you every time 05:32 dcook $db_user, $db_passwd, {'RaiseError' => $ENV{DEBUG}?1:0 }) or die $DBI::errstr; 05:32 dcook my $dbh = DBI->connect("DBI:$db_driver:dbname=$db_name;host=$db_host;port=$db_port", 05:31 dcook hehe 05:31 eythian heh who would have thought. 05:31 dcook This whole experience thing sure comes in handy... 05:31 dcook I'm glad this same thing happened to me a year or so, or I would've gone crazy 05:31 * dcook twitches a bit 05:31 dcook SetEnv DEBUG 1 05:31 dcook Having problems in a few instances with the same code and the same data? 05:28 dcook Hmmm 04:51 rangi francesa: https://gitorious.org/ 04:27 dcook eythian: You might want to look at this later: https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/master/dspace-api/src/main/java/org/dspace/browse/BrowseEngine.java 04:26 eythian this is terrible 04:26 eythian oh god issues and issue history are at the biblio level 04:23 rangi git clone https://git.gitorious.org/kohalogbot/kohalogbot.git 04:23 rangi in a terminal 04:23 rangi you can do 04:23 rangi francesa: if you want to get all the files 04:20 * eythian ignores it. 04:20 eythian oh hey, it's in a different date format to the other dates. Fancy that. 04:20 dcook lol 04:20 eythian It seemed so sane up until just now. 04:20 eythian This data has a column called "Today's Date". What the hell. 04:18 eythian oh wait... 04:18 eythian yes, but I'd still have to search them. Better would be to put them into something that can quite efficiently do searching and just provide me with the linear results that I want. 04:17 dcook I suppose you're still retrieving a lot of values and parsing them.. 04:17 dcook eythian: Keeping in mind that I know nothing of caches...couldn't you store the facets in a cache...then refresh them either periodically or on updates? 04:17 eythian I don't even know how it can be two, it's the accession date, and it represents one copy. 04:16 eythian 28-Aug-1989|5/06/98 <-- two different date formats, one field. Great work there. 04:16 francesa ok I'm just opening the links now 04:16 dcook Hmm 04:15 rangi http://download.koha-community.org/ 04:15 rangi i was thinking it would be nicer to make it look like 04:15 rangi http://irc.koha-community.org/style.css thats the css 04:14 rangi francesa: http://irc.koha-community.org/ 04:14 eythian dcook: yeah, I can control facets, but I still need to fetch them all to figure out where "smith" lives in the list. 04:14 dcook Mind you, the whole facets being deprecated thing is a drag 04:13 dcook That sounds interesting 04:13 dcook The value computed can also be a script, using the value_script instead of value_field, in which case the lang can control its language, and params allow to provide custom parameters (as in other scripted components). 04:12 dcook Hmm 04:12 dcook The size parameter controls how many facet entries will be returned. 04:12 dcook You can say only give you X? 04:12 dcook How do you get your facets? 04:12 eythian but then I'd have to process up to 100,000.) 04:11 eythian (though, for browse purposes, I could say "give me the top 100,000" 04:11 dcook Hmm 04:11 eythian and facets are limited to about 10 currently, though I do need to implement expanding them. 04:11 eythian dcook: yeah, that's a "request all and I'll give you the top 20 first" thing. 04:10 dcook Not *:* 04:10 dcook *:"keyword" 04:10 dcook I'm an idiot 04:10 dcook Ah wait 04:10 dcook That'll return thousands of records for every view I would think 04:10 dcook I seem to recall seeing a "*" query on your opac-search.pl, no? 04:09 dcook Don't you already have that though? 04:09 dcook Ahh 04:09 dcook Totally 04:09 eythian because of the "fetch thousands of values via HTTP for every view" problem. 04:09 eythian it's more the "fetch thousands of values via HTTP" that I have issues with 04:09 dcook Why did you decide against facets again? 04:08 eythian it's a comparator 04:08 dcook As for speed, I'd suggest looking at "getSolrResponse" and "SolrBrowseDAO.FacetValueComparator" I guess 04:08 dcook Ah, well 04:07 eythian well, I'm supposed to be doing a migration... 04:07 rangi heh 04:07 dcook Are you saying for once I derailed you? :P 04:07 eythian ^-- rangi 04:07 eythian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPuI_pbCYOI 04:06 * eythian should focus on what he's supposed to be doing for now though 04:06 eythian L685 04:05 dcook I wonder where "facetField" is defined.. 04:05 dcook Hmm, good point 04:04 eythian how can it ignore it? 04:04 eythian sure, but assuming the column is the aspect of data to be looking over... 04:04 dcook The database DAO would use column I bet 04:04 dcook As it's overriding an inherited method 04:04 dcook Probably just there for compatibility 04:03 eythian never uses 'column' 04:03 eythian err 04:03 eythian oddly, that method never uses 'value' 04:03 dcook Ahh 04:02 eythian I can't understand how that's fast 04:02 dcook I was just about to post https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/master/dspace-api/src/main/java/org/dspace/browse/SolrBrowseDAO.java 04:02 eythian It still looks like it's pulling all the facets and sorting them 04:02 eythian https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/master/dspace-api/src/main/java/org/dspace/browse/SolrBrowseDAO.java#L359 04:01 dcook This doesn't have to do with the Solr stuff at all as that's quite recent 04:01 dcook Yeah https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/master/dspace-api/src/main/java/org/dspace/browse/package.html is from 2010 04:00 dcook I suppose that's speed in retrieval but not indexing though 04:00 dcook Doesn't look like it has records but rather has pointers to records.. 03:59 dcook [off] This is the XML that Cocoon is parsing for the browse: http://www.territorystories.nt.gov.au/DRI/browse?order=ASC&rpp=20&sort_by=1&etal=-1&offset=0&type=title 03:58 dcook I bet it gets its speed from cacheing 03:58 dcook Hmm... 03:57 dcook Who doesn't love liquorice? 03:55 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "DSpace browse config" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/75 03:55 dcook Yep, that site I showed you is using Solr, and it's super fast 03:54 dcook Hmm Vim's history has me at the right point already. That's weird.. 03:54 dcook Hmm, I'll check that site 03:53 eythian that surprises me, unless solr does facets quite differently to ES, I can't see how it'd work at any sort of speed. 03:53 dcook Hmm, that html looks a bit dated 03:52 dcook I think that example site I showed you before uses the SolrDAO... 03:51 dcook There is the SolrDAO but they also have the DB version...right. 03:51 dcook Ahhh, right, I forgot it's not what they "used to" do, they still can do that 03:49 eythian indexes are automatically updated. 03:49 eythian <a href="../content/package-summary.html">Content Management API</a>, the 03:49 eythian configuration. When an Item is added to DSpace, modified or removed via the 03:49 eythian The Browse API uses database tables to index Items based on the supplied 03:49 eythian https://github.com/DSpace/DSpace/blob/master/dspace-api/src/main/java/org/dspace/browse/package.html <-- dcook 03:47 rangi https://www.bikewise.co.nz/news/2014/07/03/catalyst-it-enabling-burgeoning-bike-culture-worldwide 03:46 eythian hmm OK 03:45 dcook I do know though that your idea of using database tables is what they used to do at least.. 03:45 dcook They're a fairly small isolated community too, so a bit tough to get in touch with them from down under.. 03:44 dcook Not familiar enough with Java or Dspace to know for certain what they're doing 03:44 dcook eythian: Yeah, I would hope so. 03:44 dcook Mind you...my problem may have been with cacheing if I recall correctly.. 03:43 eythian yeah, if it's doing that, then they probably only update it sporadically 03:43 dcook I seem to recall having issues with their browsing not updating though 03:43 dcook It's been too long since I played around with DSpace and Solr 03:42 dcook I think that they put it in a browse index in Solr and use a value that they have to update each time they reindex...but I would rather have the confirmation 03:42 eythian hmm, it'd be good to know. 03:41 dcook eythian: I had shot off an email to the DSpace folks asking how they did their browse with Solr, but got nothing in response :/ 03:40 dcook Oh yeah.. 03:40 dcook [off] dinger...new tax tables mean I'll be taxed 8 dollars more per week on my raise than I thought! Good to know that money is going somewhere good with this government. Oh wait... 03:40 eythian But anyway, hopefully my approach will be generally useful. I guess you could replace it with a special provider if your search backend can handle it for you. 03:39 bag no worries that's why we talked here dcook - so others can have input too 03:38 dcook Well, I did, but only briefly 03:38 * dcook didn't mean to butt into the eythian/bag dialogue :p 03:38 dcook seems so* 03:38 dcook Actually, I had a peak at CQL yesterday...it seems to much nicer than CCL... 03:37 dcook zebrasrv can also use SRU 03:37 eythian yeah :) 03:36 dcook I suppose the ZOOM acronym would just be a bit...misleading 03:36 dcook Actually, ZOOM can use SRU/SRW instead of Z39.50 03:36 dcook Hmm 03:35 dcook I would say it must be Monday if it weren't Thursday 03:35 dcook Because ZOOM would still be using z39.50.. 03:35 dcook Durrr 03:35 dcook I suppose that's not the same thing at all though, lol 03:34 dcook I think SRU uses CQL, and ZOOM can use CQL. 03:34 * dcook ponders 03:34 eythian dcook: because in the short span of 50 years time, SRU and such will eat z39.50's lunch :) 03:34 * dcook wishes eythian luck in any case 03:34 dcook The browser not so much.. 03:34 dcook I suppose the z39.50 server could be updated fairly rarely 03:33 dcook If we're keeping Zebra around for a z39.50 server, why not keep it around for a browser as well? :p 03:33 eythian I mean zebras are all "we just want to be like pandas, cos pandas are cool, but we're more like horses" 03:32 dcook :( 03:32 eythian we don't care about zebra :) 03:32 dcook hehe 03:32 eythian hush dcook 03:32 dcook Pssst 03:32 bag :P 03:31 eythian (without adding a number to the records yourself, but that means reindexing the whole lot to add one in the middle.) 03:31 eythian yeah. I'd put it in ES, but there's no way to say "give me this record and the five next ordered by this" 03:30 bag would be nice if we could store it in any database we wanted instead of just the koha database 03:29 eythian yeah 03:29 bag that's cool 03:29 bag hmm if you get the browse into a index table - then anyone could develop the display they want off that 03:29 bag ok cool 03:29 eythian i.e. as part of rebuild_(zebra|elasticsearch) 03:29 eythian nah, it'd build the browse index when you add a record normally. 03:28 eythian I think so. It'll also work across search engines, too. 03:28 bag so would that be a build browse indexes at set times? cronjob 03:28 bag so then it can be possible (I think)... 03:27 eythian It won't have any foreign relationships anyway. 03:27 eythian It'll depend on whether ISAM allows us the same degree of indexing, but if it does, then sure. 03:27 eythian most likely, yes 03:27 bag at least for current mysql 03:27 eythian Hmm. 03:27 eythian It'll be quite a large table, but will only have a few columns. 03:27 bag and can we ISAM that instead of INNODB 03:26 bag so just a bigger table 03:26 eythian (a bit more than that, but that's the essence of it :) 03:26 eythian bam, now we have a thing to browse on. 03:26 eythian basically, all the fields you care about browsing, when you index you throw all the values into a database table. 03:25 bag sweet 03:25 eythian It's actually not going to be especially complicated. 03:25 bag alright I'm caught up then 03:25 eythian However, I've taken the shelf browser idea, and am having a go at implementing something that does a similar thing to that. 03:25 eythian yep 03:25 bag right and would only work for a little bit 03:25 eythian Yeah. I had faked it for testing purposes by just doing a "startswith" query, but that's not really the same thing. 03:24 bag just results 03:24 bag ah right so not a shelf list 03:24 bag I wasn't sure what your questions where... I thought what we had in the original demo stuff in March was pretty darn good 03:24 eythian It's good at search, but not good at giving you things that aren't part of your search terms. 03:23 eythian yeah, ES has no easy function (that I've found) to do what we (well, me at least) were thinking of. 03:23 bag so eythian browse for ES 03:19 eythian kk 03:19 bag heya - bbias 03:18 eythian bag: yo 03:13 dcook I used to think Saskatchewan was about the most hardcore you could get...blistering heat and blistering cold, but we build houses pretty well (or we don't notice the cold as we're numb most of the time) 03:12 dcook bag: Yep :) 03:12 * dcook thinks Saskatchewan should host Kohacon in "spring" 03:12 bag yeah that's canada for you 03:12 dcook Although -10 is cause for tshirt and shorts in spring... 03:12 dcook I suppose we'd say "bundle up" in Canada... 03:11 dcook Hope you're rugged up? 03:11 dcook "Woolies"? 03:11 * dcook is trying to think of Oz/Nz slang for warm things 03:10 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (3:00 PM NZST on July 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). 03:10 rangi @wunder nzwn 03:09 dcook It does look like a beautiful day... 03:09 * dcook looks outside 03:09 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Matraville, Sydney, New South Wales is 20.8°C (1:05 PM EST on July 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Falling). 03:09 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 03:09 dcook But that was just for a day 03:09 dcook I think I did 118 in 2013 03:08 dcook 114 is pretty hot.. 03:08 bag much nicer :) 03:08 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 17.7°C (8:08 PM PDT on July 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.85 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 03:08 bag @wunder 93101 03:08 bag it was 114 (I think that's the hottest I've ever been in) 03:08 bag brutally hot 03:07 bag yeah I was just in Vegas this last weekend for ALA 03:05 dcook Except getting a bit sick after leaving Reno... 03:05 * dcook knows nothing of Nevada altitude... 03:04 dcook Excessive heat warning? 03:02 huginn bag: The current temperature in MacDonald Ranch, Henderson, Nevada is 38.9°C (8:00 PM PDT on July 02, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising). Excessive heat warning in effect until 10 PM PDT this evening below 4000 feet... 03:02 bag @wunder las vegas nv 02:55 bag thanks 02:55 bag cool 02:55 rangi shouldnt be long 02:55 rangi he just ducked out 02:54 bag hey eythian you around? 02:01 dcook Yay! Thanks, rangi :) 01:56 rangi dcook: http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-master/authors.html 01:51 cjh ;) 01:50 dcook eythian: hehe. I just saw that tumblr this morning thanks to cjh.. 01:49 dcook eythian: Damn timezones... 01:49 dcook rangi: Yay! 01:49 eythian http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/81276463262/cluster-doing-a-split-brain <-- why you shouldn't run two ES instances. 01:40 rangi explains why it wasnt merging too 01:39 rangi ill fix 01:39 rangi ahhh its the mailmap busting it 01:38 eythian dcook: it's very much afternoon. 01:38 rangi which is the one i pushed this morning 01:38 rangi git log tells me latest was Date: Thu Jun 26 15:03:37 2014 -0400 01:37 rangi yeah 01:37 rangi seems to be working fine 01:36 rangi hmm ill look 01:34 dcook When did that happen? 01:34 dcook Whoa...it's still morning 01:07 dcook rangi: looks like GitStats isn't updating again. The last commit that it's showing is for 2014-06-27, but there have been around 10 pushed in July alone, I think. 00:26 dcook Nothing like a crash to make you restart your browser sans billion tabs 00:23 dac Oh, Windows 8. Thou art the buggiest...