Time Nick Message 00:00 dcook I think my friends are a bit crazy for getting me one, but I've been thinking about buying a tablet for a while if only to catch up on email on transit.. 00:00 dcook Also better for webcomic reading :D 00:01 eythian they're great for that 00:04 dcook Man trying to identify to Nickserv only using your thumbs is not fun.. 00:05 dac Developer meeting tomorrow morning, yeah? 00:10 dcook Perfect 00:16 eythian dcook: yeah, you might be able to tell the IRC client to auto log you in to nickserv 00:17 dcook Yeah, I figured it out eventually. Looks like the app might've changed a bit since I used it last. 00:17 dcook Or I just haven't used it in so long that I forget how to do it :p 00:18 dcook All good now though :D 00:18 dcook Alarm in the phone, so one way or another I should be there tomorrow morning 00:57 dcook This is kind of cool: http://mapofcpan.org/#/ 00:57 dcook http://mapofcpan.org/#/distro/Moose/deps 00:57 dcook Couldn't get this one to work as it kept timing out: http://mapofcpan.org/#/distro/Moose/rdeps 00:59 eythian dcook: one of the folks here made that. 00:59 eythian the moose rdeps one works for me 01:00 dcook Hmm weird 01:00 dcook Cool that Grant is one of you folks 01:03 eythian I should find some lunch 01:03 eythian but I don't know what I want. 01:04 eythian Maybe a quesidea. 01:04 dcook Yeah, I forgot my lunch at home. Sick though so don't feel like finding it. 01:04 * dcook needs a lunch henchman 01:05 eythian http://www.wherethefuckshouldigotoeat.com/ <-- this is useful for that 01:05 eythian ooh 01:06 eythian I might have Vietnamise. 01:06 eythian only, spelt right. 01:06 dcook hehe 01:07 dcook lol 01:07 dcook Alas, too much walking 01:07 dcook Badde Manors is pretty tasty though 01:13 eythian I have Vietnamese chicken curry now 01:14 dcook Mmm 01:14 dcook I think I might have to run out and get some laksa soon 02:10 eythian wahanui: are you a bot? 02:10 wahanui eythian: no idea 02:11 eythian wahanui: bots is <reply>http://youtu.be/B1BdQcJ2ZYY 02:11 wahanui OK, eythian. 03:14 dcook http://zoom.z3950.org/api/zoom-current.html#3.3 03:14 dcook Yeah, really helpful, guys... 03:14 dcook Because no one would ever want to analyze the query that they've transformed before sending it to the server... 03:15 dcook Err, http://zoom.z3950.org/api/zoom-current.html#3.3.1 more specifically... 03:17 dcook For anyone who is a bit masochistic and wants to see how Net::Z3950::ZOOM calls the ZOOM-C API... http://git.indexdata.com/?p=ZOOM-Perl.git;a=tree 03:18 eythian nooooooope. 03:19 dcook hehe 03:19 dcook It's not too interesting 03:21 dcook Indexdata Git is http://git.indexdata.com/ 03:21 dcook indexdata git? 03:21 wahanui indexdata git is, like, http://git.indexdata.com/ 03:29 dcook On the plus side, I have a better idea of what C looks like now.. 03:39 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11357 - biblioitems.size value not correctly displayed in list emails sent from... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d77304c98e9b4c839b3bcf19e1453a7e6ec8aaa> 04:06 rangi aleisha: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12386 04:06 huginn 04Bug 12386: trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , 'Days in advance' pull down in bootstrap OPAC is huge 04:08 rangi also http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12429 04:08 huginn 04Bug 12429: normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , patron seeing fines codes 04:10 rangi http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12494 too 04:10 huginn 04Bug 12494: normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Remove yuipath system preference 04:43 dcook Is it just me or is QueryParser royally borked in the intranet? 04:43 dcook I thought I had it working recently... 04:44 dcook Borked for the "Search the catalog" at the top. Not the advanced search. 04:50 aleisha rangi: managed to sign off on 12386 (once I worked out how to test it) so I'll do 12429 now! 04:50 rangi sweet! 05:00 eythian hi cait 05:00 eythian go etc. 05:02 cait morning 05:03 cait wish etc. 05:03 eythian heh 05:13 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggGLFCi1R64 05:22 rangi cait: how do you add baskets to a basketgroup? 05:22 cait there are different ways 05:22 cait one thing you can do is check the little check box in the yellow alert htat appeart when closing a basket 05:22 cait that will create a basket group with the name ofyour basket automatically and shuld take you there 05:23 rangi cool 05:23 cait anothe option is going to he vendor of your basket 05:23 cait and then new basket group - and drag and drop the closed baskets into it 05:24 aleisha cait: how do you close a basket? 05:25 cait there is a button on top of he basket 05:25 cait but beware 05:25 cait it will only appear when you don't have uncertain prices 05:26 cait you will have to dealwith those first in case and then you can close it 05:27 cait so basically you create you choose a vendor... create a basket... order something and don't check the uncertain checkbox 05:27 cait and then it should have close basket in the top toolbar 05:28 cait hope what I said is understandable :) i am still waking up :) 05:30 eythian http://www.theonion.com/video/ninja-parade-slips-through-town-unnoticed-once-aga,14181/ 05:33 cait lol 05:36 aleisha thanks cait that helps heaps but i'm not able to change the quantity when im adding an order to the basket? 05:36 cait oh yes 05:36 cait you have to click the little add item button a bit above 05:36 cait then the counter will go up as the item is added 05:36 cait ... every of our libraries asks that at least once 05:36 aleisha ohhh i see thank you! 05:37 cait but i have no idea how to improve it :( 05:38 dcook I so do not get bitwise string operators... 05:38 dcook Oh wait...maybe I'm just missing the last step.. 05:40 aleisha well I can sign off on that patch now so thanks for your help! 05:40 cait :) 05:40 cait thx for your help! 05:40 cait aleisha++ 05:42 dcook Oh...I think I might actually understand now.. 05:47 cait dcook: hm? 05:48 dcook Koha's Auth.pm relies upon the following logic to set the base permissions for users: "( $flags & ( 2**$bit ) )" 05:48 dcook 2**$bit will calculate 2 raised to the power of $bit 05:49 dcook The bitwise operand & does a bitwise 'AND' operation 05:49 eythian it's not a string there, it's a number 05:49 dcook Hmm? 05:50 dcook The quotation marks are just to denote the code bit 05:50 dcook code * 05:50 dcook So & does the operation on the numbers in binary 05:50 eythian <dcook> I so do not get bitwise string operators... 05:50 eythian they're number operators 05:50 dcook http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop.html#Bitwise-String-Operators 05:51 dcook Ahh, I think I see what you're saying 05:51 dcook "If an operand is a number, that will imply a numeric bitwise operation" 05:51 eythian yeah :) 05:51 dcook :) 05:51 dcook So this helped visualize it for me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitwise_operation#AND 05:52 eythian though, I didn't actually know about the string versions of the operators. That seems to be too much like magic for my tastes. 05:52 eythian Probably useful in some obscure cases. 05:52 dcook Gotta love their helpful examples, eh? 05:53 eythian I guess so long as you think of them as bitstrings rather than strings, it's clearer. 06:05 dcook The numbers are pretty neat... 06:11 dcook So 131124 & 32 in binary would be : 100000000000110100 AND 100000. Since the longer number gets truncated down to the same length it would end up being 110100 AND 100000, and since only "1" matches...you get 100000 which is 32 06:11 dcook Wild. 06:12 eythian well for an &, it's not necessary to say that anything is truncated. 06:13 eythian 100 == 00100 == 0000000000100 06:13 dcook Hmm, I guess not 06:13 dcook Yeah 06:13 dcook Totes 06:15 * dcook claps 06:15 dcook binary fun 06:18 dcook eythian && others: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/35 06:19 cait @seen khall 06:19 huginn cait: khall was last seen in #koha 3 days, 13 hours, 13 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <khall> I've never seen those codes. odd 06:20 eythian dcook: heh 06:59 reiveune hello 07:05 dcook Ah, QueryParser was just borked when there were nulls in the defaultSortOrder and defaultSortField preferences...which should never be empty anyway... 07:27 gaetan_B hello 07:28 dcook Huh...I think I have some ideas about how to improve the QueryParser... 07:28 dcook To the point where I might not even need to fix our broken homegrown stuff... 07:29 dcook Still not a great solution though.. 07:29 * dcook will have to play tomorrow 07:29 dcook hi French folks! 07:29 * dcook heads off for the night 07:54 cait Joubu around? 07:56 Joubu cait: yep 07:56 nlegrand Hey #koha! 07:56 cait i am on sandbox 7 07:56 cait and the ajax circ hangs :( 07:57 cait not sure if it's the sandbox, as it seems very slow right now 07:58 cait hm yep, looks like the sanbox hangs 08:01 Joubu cait: I don't see the patches on the sandbox 7 08:03 cait hm weird 08:03 cait my problem is, the whole installations seems to hang 08:03 cait i can't get to any page right now 08:07 cait Joubu++ 09:14 Racoo Hi, I have biblio and holding duplication problem. How can I solve the problem with the duplication, plase help. 09:46 cait IE-- 10:01 Joubu IE-- 10:13 cait Joubu: it's really terrible :( 10:14 cait I see totally unreliable behaviour 10:14 cait it's totally confusing and most of the time the display is just wrong 10:15 sophie_m cait : opac or admin ? 10:15 cait admin - but circ doesn't work at all with the new patches 10:16 cait i am torn here, i kow we don't officially support it, but I think totally breaking THE main feature of an ils... 10:16 cait is kind of a big deal 10:16 cait sophie_m: it's about bug 11703 10:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 10:19 cait gmcharlt: ping 10:20 cait hm might be too early and still travelling - bbiab 11:06 bgkriegel @wunder cordoba, argentina 11:06 huginn bgkriegel: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 7.5°C (8:05 AM ART on July 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 12:02 Racoo Hi, I have biblio and holding duplication problem. How can I solve the problem with the duplication, plase help. 12:18 oleonard Hi #koha 12:18 cait hi oleonard 12:43 tcohen morning #koha 12:44 oleonard Hi tcohen 12:45 tcohen hi oleonard 14:06 oleonard I wonder how libraries use hold notes which have been left by the patron 14:07 cait not sure really 14:07 cait but i think some might use them only internally if the user can't see them right now... so not sure what might be in there 14:08 oleonard I never really tested them before, but yeah: notes can be left by patron or staff but are only seen by staff 14:08 oleonard It might be problematic to suddenly show them to the patron (Bug 12358) 14:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12358 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , patrons can't see hold notes in the opac 14:09 cait oleonard: yeah my thoughts too :( 14:09 cait i had seen the bug earlier 14:09 cait maybe it shoudl be an internal and a patron note... but lots more work 14:10 jcamins oleonard: what, you don't want patrons to see things like "patron very obnoxious, avoid engaging at all costs"? 14:10 cait lol 14:10 cait not sure that woudl go into a hold note 14:11 oleonard jcamins: That's why librarians here have to add to internal notes, "Please don't read this aloud to the patron" 14:11 cait lol 14:12 jcamins lol 14:23 oleonard I think if a bug has multiple patches then each patch should have a separate test plan. If one can't test the patches separately then they should be squashed. 14:23 cait i think the problem is when the first patches already have sign offs 14:23 Joubu oleonard: not sure 14:24 cait also for the tester easier to see what changed to the previous version he/she tested 14:24 Joubu oleonard: when I develop a feature, I split into small patches for readability 14:24 jcamins oleonard: as an RM, I preferred multiple patches. 14:24 cait i think ther are probably reasons for both approaches 14:25 oleonard Okay, I'm glad to hear the counter-argument. From my perspective as a tester multiple patches don't make things easier. 14:25 cait i think if you start fresh on a patch, that is probably true 14:26 jcamins For a system like Koha, where all the code is spread across many files, multiple patches made it easier to see what was going on with change 1 and change 2. 14:26 cait btw... someone should test a really nice patch from a library! 14:27 cait bug 11577 14:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11577 new feature, P5 - low, ---, h.meissner.82, Needs Signoff , [ENH] Automatic renewal feature 14:27 jcamins Even if change 1 is useless without change 2. 14:27 cait no worries... i will not say that all the time now :) i just felt like it because i amgoing through my inbox here 14:32 cait and it's a cool feature ... :) 14:33 cait jcamins: how hard do you think would it be to use part of the analytics feature (showing an item on another record) but make it use a db table for storing the linking instead of something in the MARC record? 14:33 cait I am thinking about a table that has the itemnumber and the biblionumber of the record it should appear on 14:33 cait to be used for bound withs 14:34 jcamins cait: it would be a bit of a nuisance. 14:34 jcamins Well... a ton of a nuisance. 14:34 jcamins But I think it's a good idea. 14:35 cait define nuisanceß 14:35 cait ? 14:35 jcamins cait: oh god, oh god, where's the schnapps? 14:36 jcamins It would be a lot of work, because basically you'd have to add an additional layer in between item and bib. 14:36 cait so hard eh? 14:36 jcamins Yeah. 14:36 cait i was wondering if one coudl modify the bit that cheks for the marc field to show the item 14:37 cait to just... also look in my shiny table 14:37 cait but i gues... that was too optimistic 14:37 cait way too optimistic 14:37 jcamins You mean the EasyAnalytics? 14:37 cait yeah 14:37 jcamins That was never much more than a band-aid. 14:37 cait well... 14:37 jcamins A much-needed band-aid, but a band-aid. 14:38 cait I think for analytics it makes kind of sense to (mis)use the 773 14:38 cait but bound withs are really item specific 14:38 jcamins Oh, 773 is definitely the correct field. 14:38 cait so it shouldn't be in the record 14:39 jcamins It's just the rest of the functionality that was a workaround. 14:39 cait because you can have 1 item that is bound in with another and still have real items for both records where that has not been done 14:39 jcamins Right. 14:39 cait so i think even if easyanalytics worked in combination with usecontrolnumber, which it doesn't... and we wouldn#t overwrite the records .... it wouldn't work 14:40 jcamins Right. 14:40 jcamins We are agreed in that. 14:41 jcamins But I don't think you could just modify EasyAnalytics to handle bound-withs without a lot of work. :( 14:48 cait ok 14:48 cait so start from scratch it would be 14:48 cait ... *sigh* 14:49 cait hm i typoed unusable 14:52 Joubu oleonard: do you plan to submit a patch to remove prog and ccsr themes? 14:53 jcamins cait: as long as you didn't spell it "usable." 14:54 oleonard I am certainly willing to Joubu. I was waiting to hear the discussion at the meeting tomorrow. 14:54 cait unusuable < not much better 14:55 Joubu oleonard: I completely agree with bug 12494, but I cannot pass qa on it without a patch for the dependent bug. It will break ccsr and prog. 14:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12494 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Remove yuipath system preference 14:56 oleonard Joubu: Of course. 15:02 oleonard I'm confused about why we have one bug to deprecate prog/ccsr and one to remove them. 15:07 oleonard anyone? :) 15:07 cait no idea 15:07 cait i think deprecate is done :) 15:07 cait we added to the coding guidelines 15:09 oleonard tcohen: Do you have an opinion? 15:16 Joubu oleonard: yep, not sure to understand. If we remove prog and ccsr theme, there are deprecated... 15:17 tcohen oleonard: deprecating it involves several other tasks 15:17 tcohen it is an omnibus bug 15:17 tcohen don't worry, we will close them all :-D 15:18 cait wb tcohen :) 15:18 tcohen hi 15:20 oleonard tcohen: When is a bug dependent on the deprecate process and when is a bug dependent on the remove process? 15:21 tcohen oleonard: first, I marked one of them as duplicate and it was reverted (so I had the same concern you have) 15:22 tcohen as long as we have all involved tasks covered, I agree with either 15:40 reiveune bye 17:16 cait khall++ :) 18:03 bag good morning 18:08 jburds_ Greetings! 18:08 wahanui and beatings! 18:10 oleonard wahanui: ? 18:10 wahanui wish i knew, oleonard 18:10 oleonard Hi bag 18:10 jburds_ Can someone tell me their average time to check in a book from a barcode scan until they can scan the next barcode? We are averaging from 2 to 3 seconds normally. 18:11 bag currently somewhere in that range is pretty average for koha 18:13 jburds_ Thanks, we are pretty new to the system and trying to speed it up as much as possible 18:13 bag jburds_: there is development working on getting the staff side ready for plack (we are actually working on bringing a live site up on that within the next week or so) 18:13 jburds_ Nice 18:14 bag also this will help with patrons that have a large number of previous checkouts, fines, holds etc. http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 18:14 huginn 04Bug 11703: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 19:38 cait khall++ 20:50 cait so quiet 21:04 rhcl really 21:07 cait @quote get random 21:07 huginn cait: Error: 'random' is not a valid id. 21:07 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 21:07 rhcl @wunder 64507 21:07 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 29.8°C (4:07 PM CDT on July 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1012 hPa (Falling). 21:07 cait @quote random 21:07 huginn cait: Quote #79: "<robin> drivers make windows crash, therefore windows makes drivers crash." (added by gmcharlt at 01:53 AM, June 24, 2010) 21:36 WNickC anyone have a hint at what to poke if zebra rebuild doesn't throw error but no records are returned in search? 21:38 cait did you start your zebra server? 21:38 cait did you activate opacsuppression but have not one suppressed record? 21:40 WNickC hmm...start zebra server..no, I don't think I did that 21:43 cait it depends on how you installed koha if it's needed 21:43 cait but it can be a reason if it's not running for search not giving results 21:44 WNickC it's a git clone, but didn't seem to fix it 21:45 cait so did you turn on opacsuppression? 21:45 WNickC nope. it is off 21:45 rangi permissions 21:45 wahanui i heard permissions was most likely the problem 21:46 rangi the user you rebuilt as, has to be the same user you run the zebrasrv as 21:46 rangi (and neither of them should be root) 21:47 WNickC yes, avoid root 21:47 WNickC I have learned that one 21:49 WNickC but still no dice, I think I have made other errors though 21:53 WNickC it's a VM, and it's just for testing and playing, isn't be the first and won't be last time I break it 21:53 cait it happens 21:53 cait you tried a rebuild? with -v -v? 21:56 WNickC with -v, just tried -v -v, over my head 21:57 cait you can paste it 21:58 cait maybe thereis something to spot 21:58 cait paste? 21:58 wahanui paste is, like, found at http://paste.koha-community.org 22:04 tcohen @later tell cait https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey#Compose_key 22:04 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 22:04 cait i am here 22:04 cait hm? 22:05 pastebot "WNickC" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Zebra return" (506 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/72 22:13 cait thx :) 22:13 cait looks like only 4 records were indexed 22:13 cait shoul dit be more or is that ok? 22:14 WNickC nope, just 4 22:14 WNickC not loading more until it works :) 22:15 cait hm not sure sorry 22:15 cait which command did you runẞ 22:16 WNickC rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r -v 22:17 cait hm 22:17 cait and you are sure zebrasrv is running? 22:18 tcohen zebrasrv -f /home/nick/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml 22:18 WNickC I am sure of very little :) 22:19 WNickC ah 22:20 WNickC now errors I can understand 22:23 tcohen [off] /me thinks SQLHelper looks dangerous inside 22:25 cait [off] hopefully gone soon 22:25 WNickC thanks tcohen 22:25 tcohen np 22:26 tcohen WNickC: you're on a testing environment, right? 22:27 WNickC Yes, learning linux and koha all at once 22:28 tcohen going to develop? 22:28 WNickC yes?, that is the hope 22:28 tcohen awesome 22:28 tcohen good luck 22:29 eythian hi 22:29 WNickC thanks, I think I'll need it 22:31 tcohen hi eythian 22:32 tcohen so, Argentina-Belgium 22:43 tcohen does anyone know this? 22:43 wahanui rumour has it this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius 22:43 tcohen http://editorconfig.org/ 22:43 tcohen we should add that to our source tree 22:57 eythian tcohen: that's probably a good idea. 22:57 rangi tcohen: can't hurt 23:31 dcook Hmm sounds cool, tcohen 23:31 dcook Also Argentina-Belgium :p 23:31 * dcook really needs to watch a game at some point... 23:34 * dcook is taking a look at eythian's ES query builder 23:34 eythian oh good 23:38 dcook Mmm, I was wondering what you were doing with stemming and truncation 23:38 dcook Does ES stem on its own? 23:41 dcook I've been pondering a bit basic search versus advanced search... 23:42 dcook Off the top of my head, advanced search queries should be pretty easy to create if folks just plunk text into the advanced search form fields 23:42 dcook I suppose it's not basic search...but free form... 23:42 dcook versus structured 23:44 eythian dcook: it can, I haven't dealt with it yet though 23:47 dcook eythian: And the right-truncate is for that one advanced search index, yeah? 23:48 dcook Which I can't find now.. 23:48 eythian dcook: I don't know what you mean. 23:49 dcook In "_convert_index_fields", you change rtrn to 'right-truncate', but that appears to never show up 23:49 dcook Although I thoguht there was one instance where it did in the advanced search.. 23:50 eythian dcook: that's used by _modify_string_by_type 23:51 eythian or do you mean about it getting set? 23:51 dcook Right, but I'm saying it should never make it's way into _modify_string_by_type 23:51 eythian I think I saw it somewhere. 23:51 dcook Me too, but now I can't see it :/ 23:51 * dcook checks between 3.14 and master 23:52 eythian koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/catalogue/advsearch.tt 23:52 eythian 144: <option value="ln,rtrn:[% search_languages_loo.iso639_2_code %]" selected="selected">[% search_languages_loo.language_description %]</option> 23:52 eythian 146: <option value="ln,rtrn:[% search_languages_loo.iso639_2_code %]">[% search_languages_loo.language_description %]</option> 23:52 eythian language codes use it 23:52 dcook I'm looking at the OPAC. Maybe it's in the in tranet 23:52 dcook Ah yeah, that's the one 23:52 eythian also the opac 23:53 dcook In the limits 23:53 dcook Righto 23:54 dcook And wrdl gets dropped for default...probably makes sense. Cool. 23:54 * dcook has been wondering about the necessity of "rtrn" 23:54 dcook Versus * 23:54 eythian I end up converting it to * 23:55 dcook Yeah, I saw that 23:55 dcook I'm thinking of testing ZOOM to see if it needs rtrn 23:55 dcook Or if it adds truncation when it detects * or ? during ZOOM::Query::CCL2RPN 23:55 dcook I'm guessing it doesn't need rtrn... 23:56 dcook But going to try it out 23:57 dcook Actually, I'm thinking of doing an audit of search...trying to figure out all the places it gets called 23:57 dcook Because I think most of the time it's just a search box where you can stick anything into it 23:58 dcook We might only use the CCL/Zebra indexes in advanced searches 23:58 dcook Mmm facets too I guess 23:58 eythian yeah, there are probably a lot of places where C4::Search is used directly. These will be an issue. 23:58 dcook If we could use something more universal, that might save everyone some hacking 23:58 eythian But, they can be fixed one by one. 23:59 dcook How do you mean? 23:59 eythian Calling C4::Search directly won't work so well with ES 23:59 dcook What do you mean by calling C4::Search directly?