Time Nick Message 23:59 dcook I already have an S3 for a phone as well and apparently they sync...hmm 23:59 eythian ah yep 23:58 dcook Galaxy Tab 3 7", I believe 23:58 eythian I have a nexus 7 which I quite like 23:57 dcook Some friends bought it for me for my birthday 23:57 * dcook tries to remember 23:56 eythian what tablet? 23:56 dcook Oooh. I'm getting a tablet soon...that could make it less painful... 23:55 dcook Otherwise, I'll never make it to a dev meeting on IRC... 23:55 dcook Hmm, maybe I should download an IRC client for my phone again 23:07 eythian http://youtu.be/T9-OWfS2Vy4 <-- educational 22:26 eythian http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10216641/Time-to-bring-back-the-moa <-- uh huh 22:24 cait hi eythian 22:22 eythian hi 20:47 rhcl http://x.hope.net/index.html 20:47 rhcl If I lived in NY, like _some_ of the people on here... 19:48 tcohen bye #koha 19:44 tcohen heh 19:44 jcamins tcohen++ # advanced RM sneakiness - incorporating Argentine tango into your project management technique 19:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11810: (followup) regenerate CSS due to conflict <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b212c4137d8b401073dd0c4d0ab07c12dd0fd224> / Bug 11810: Input fields in OPAC suggestion form are a bit short (Bootstrap) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d04f7dd958abd185448b3ea3c7d41a0e40571bd8> 19:37 jcamins I _guess_. 19:37 tcohen can I use vim instead of sed? 19:37 tcohen you're brave jcamins 19:36 jcamins tcohen: yaz-marcdump + sed 19:29 oleonard Ah okay so it's my fault for having an older version :) 19:29 tcohen lessc 1.7.3 (Less Compiler) [JavaScript] 19:28 oleonard What version of lessc? 19:28 tcohen "yui-compress option has been removed. ignoring." 19:28 tcohen exactly 19:21 oleonard You don't get a one-line CSS file with all whitespace removed? 19:20 tcohen oleonard: it doesn't minify the file in my box 19:19 * tcohen blames the latest lessc from npm 19:18 oleonard --yui-compress does minify 19:18 tcohen i thought we did 19:17 tcohen so we don't minify the file 19:17 tcohen ah 19:17 oleonard the --yui-compress option removes line breaks 19:17 oleonard I'm pretty sure both are options and they do different things 19:16 tcohen oleonard: i installed the latest less and it is -x instead of --yui-compress 19:05 oleonard lessc --yui-compress koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/less/opac.less > koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/css/opac.css 19:05 oleonard I'm using: 19:05 tcohen no problem 19:05 tcohen so i pick your .less and regenerate 19:04 oleonard tcohen: My understanding of how bootstrap CSS conflicts should be handled is that you should compile a new copy of the CSS and commit that 19:04 tcohen thanks oleonard! 19:03 oleonard Hi tcohen I'm here now 19:02 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 19:02 tcohen @later tell oleonard please check 11810 that doesn't apply anymore 19:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12419: Not for loan items are not listed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=25193d088a62e62a4b638f251415220389a83559> / Bug 12419: (QA followup) regression tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4132ac28bf088960d25766fccc60ba1535a0e8ef> / Bug 12455: (QA followup) license text missing <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=870cafa4afa 18:31 tcohen i thought we had an iso file 18:31 tcohen :-D 18:22 cait http://galencharlton.com/blog/2013/10/introducing-the-next-new-marc-editor-vim/ 18:21 cait give me a sec 18:21 cait heh 18:21 cait or vim 18:21 cait vi 18:19 tcohen marc editor for linux? 17:00 oleonard barton: Were you able to observe specific problems with clicking through from verification emails? 17:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12371 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Links in every patron self-registration email points to a single borrower 17:00 oleonard barton: I don't think I can reproduce Bug 12371. My query of borrower_modifications looks like the results on the bug, but clicking through from verification emails seems to work as it should 16:57 nazareth_ heeeeeey,.. 16:53 nazareth_ hablas español? 16:52 nazareth_ alguien que hable español? 16:52 * wahanui waves 16:52 nazareth_ hi? 16:46 nazareth_ hola hola? 16:46 nazareth_ hola? 16:43 nazareth que tal buenos dias.. 16:43 nazareth hablan español? 16:43 wahanui que tal, nazareth 16:43 nazareth hi 16:25 gaetan_B bye! 16:12 cait worth a try .) 16:12 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 16:12 cait @later tell rangi - could you add a 3.16 version to bugzilla please? 16:11 cait maybe rangi coudl do it too 16:11 cait oleonard: you are right 16:06 oleonard gmcharlt: Looks like we need a version entry in Bugzilla for 3.16 15:35 cait hehe 15:35 tcohen come to kohacon14 in october and you'll have that beer 15:34 tcohen first fill the bug! 15:34 grharry tcohen: thanx ... I prefer a beer !!! I will try to locate the problem ... 15:33 tcohen (if you provide a solution you'd earn bonus cookies btw) 15:33 tcohen we'll sort it out 15:33 tcohen grharry: fill the bug 15:32 reiveune bye 15:29 grharry yes indeed they do !!! :) 15:28 grharry I am afraid that V3.16.01 zebra indexes also have the same problem 15:24 cait grrr overdues-- 15:23 grharry and also perform a diff check between the versions !!! 15:22 grharry Yes ... I intend to ... but I would like to check it the bug still holds for koha 3.16.01 ... I am on 3.16.00.01 !!!! 15:22 tcohen you should fill a bug on that 15:20 fridolin see u 15:19 wahanui hmmm... UNIMARC is http://www.ifla.org/en/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation 15:19 grharry and UNIMARC 15:19 grharry tcohen: zebra index defs of 3.16 and specific query (1=54) language of the item ... NO 15:18 grharry So I would presume that there must be some sort of miss-configuration for the zebra 3.16 in the index defs 15:18 tcohen grharry: do u mean that with your current setup UNIMARC searching is not working? 15:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11810 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Input fields in OPAC suggestion form are a bit short (Bootstrap) 15:17 cait bug 11810 15:16 grharry Hello again ... regarding the zebra index schema of 3.16 vs 3.14 I've just reverted my zebra conf from the 3.16 KOHA to 3.14 and after rebuilding the indexes ( unimarc ) the query "find @attr 1=54 fre" works as well as the OPAC !! 15:09 tcohen could you regen the css with less? 15:09 tcohen oleonard: 11810 is not applying anymore 14:28 cait everything dates related causes mighty headaches 14:28 cait overdues-testing-- 14:24 cait yay :) 14:24 paul_p ;) 14:23 paul_p cait = wait a few minuts, I'll send you a link with a video of me with my beard (speaking french though) 14:23 tcohen o/ 14:23 tcohen hi paul_p! 14:22 paul_p hello cait. 14:20 * cait waves at paul_p 14:20 cait oleonard: but we can only see his back! 14:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12223 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , members-update.tt has misspelled field B_phone name 14:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12361 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , No default value for opaccolorstylesheet syspref 14:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12479 trivial, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Update mailmap for master 14:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 14:05 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12223 - members-update.tt has misspelled field B_phone name 14:05 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 12361 - No default value for opaccolorstylesheet syspref 14:05 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12479: (QA followup) minor fixes, and tcohen added 14:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12464 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed by Module Maintainer , Bootstrap XSLT view no longer displaying 505 correctly formatted 14:05 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 12479 - [SIGNED-OFF] Update mailmap for master 14:05 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 7143: Updating new developers 14:05 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12464 - Bootstrap XSLT view no longer displaying 505 correctly formatted 14:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #34: FIXED in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/34/ 14:05 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 14:05 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 13:59 vfernandes because my listen for public server is set tcp:@:9998 13:58 vfernandes z39.50 is UDP or TCP? 13:58 paul_p wearing a beard since 2-3 months 13:58 oleonard :) 13:58 paul_p oleonard yes, it's me ;-) 13:56 oleonard paul_p is sporting a beard now, or is that evil paul_p from a parallel universe? https://twitter.com/BibLibre/status/483589461142671360 13:52 marjorie cait: thanks for your help, i will try on a test machine 13:52 vfernandes yes cait i've followed the wiki 13:51 cait did you check the wiki? 13:51 cait and then only tested it locally 13:51 cait vfernandes: i have only done it once with marc21 so probably not much help there :( 13:51 vfernandes anyone can help me? 13:51 jcamins marjorie: unless you have an extremely small collection, trying an SQL query to identify unused authorities is likely to be rather rough on your server. 13:50 cait marjorie: if you can maybe to it on a test machine or limit it to some fields/records at first 13:50 cait marjorie: it could create quite a load on your server 13:49 vfernandes i can't put my koha as z39.50 server :/ 13:49 marjorie cait: ok thanks! 13:49 cait but it's the only way i can think of to find out right now 13:48 cait i ahven't tried it so far 13:48 marjorie cait: ah! 13:48 cait i think you'd need to use the marcxml field and compare the values in $9 in several fields to your auth_headers table 13:47 cait marjorie: i think that would be quite complicated 13:43 marjorie Hi, anyone knows a SQL query to list the authorities that are not used? Thanks! 13:39 grharry I dont understand "find @attr 1=1095 fre" original-code of the item ... works OK .. but not the 1=54 !!! 13:34 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 27.3°C (8:34 AM CDT on June 30, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.75 in 1007 hPa (Falling). 13:34 rhcl @wunder 64507 13:34 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Yale, Kline Geology Lab, New Haven, Connecticut is 23.3°C (9:08 AM EDT on June 30, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1019 hPa (Rising). 13:34 rhcl @wunder new haven, ct 13:26 cait Yohann++ 13:25 cait butit looks ok to me too 13:25 cait not sure then 13:25 cait hm 13:22 grharry in the zebra config files 13:22 grharry It all seems good 13:21 grharry http://paste.koha-community.org/70?tx=on&submit=Format+it%21 13:11 cait als check another unimarc catalog for reference - if it works there 13:11 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12223 - members-update.tt has misspelled field B_phone name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=059f20171077a8f78af4d1c89d1e547948ae1e9f> / Bug 12361 - No default value for opaccolorstylesheet syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75af5146560e90117f6e07f80b35c36c283a7ada> / Bug 12479: (QA followup) minor fixes, and tcohen added <http://git.koha-community.or 13:11 cait grharry: first i would check which fields are indexed as language 13:10 huginn grharry: downloading the Perl source 13:10 grharry @and 13:10 grharry so needed 13:10 grharry $a Lastname $b First name 13:10 grharry in unimarc 13:10 grharry :) 13:09 grharry where not able to help 13:09 grharry since most people do not know unimarc 13:09 grharry and 13:09 grharry wrong query 13:09 grharry yes 13:09 cait were you able to track down the reason fro your other search problems? 13:09 cait sorry not sure 13:09 cait maybe it's meant for Language of Cataloguing 13:08 grharry and is the code of marc record 13:08 grharry this is the http://archive.ifla.org/VI/3/p1996-1/uni1.htm#100 general processing data field 13:07 grharry no 13:07 cait There is a pref for defaulting the field - UNIMARCField100Lanugage 13:06 cait it looks like it should be in 100 13:06 grharry it is in koha indexdefs 13:06 grharry I think it is 13:06 grharry sorry 13:06 grharry I thing 13:06 grharry it is 13:06 cait hm it might not be indexed in ln 13:06 grharry 101 a 13:05 grharry I am in unimarc 13:05 cait only in 041 or also in the controlled field? 13:05 grharry yes cait ... they are 13:05 cait grharry: did you make sure those are in your records? 12:53 grharry anybody knows something about this ??? 12:52 grharry zebra returns [114] Unsupported Use attribute 12:51 grharry hello, I cant query the z3950 server with "find @attr 1=54 fre" language of the item and neither koha OPAC shows any results when selecting language from advanced search !! 12:23 cait overdues-- 12:23 cait hi tcohen :) 12:22 wahanui morning is a state of the cait 12:22 tcohen morning! 12:19 oleonard Hi #koha 12:11 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 12:11 cait @later tell tcohen ping :) 12:11 cait morning francharb 12:05 francharb Morning #koha 11:52 fridolin test with telnet 11:52 fridolin vfernandes: maybe you have a firewall bocking 9998 port 11:51 vfernandes fridolin.... my bad, biblioserver is running on unix socket 11:51 fridolin but you can have one on unix socket and the other on TCP 11:50 fridolin vfernandes: indeed you can not have 2 servers using TCP on the same port 11:06 vfernandes there is any problem to have biblioserver and publicserver on the same port? 11:06 vfernandes *authorityserver on port 9999 11:05 vfernandes biblioserver is running on port 9998, authorityserver on port 9998, public server on port 9998 11:01 vfernandes OUTSIDE SERVER : yaz-client catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt:9998/biblios NOT WORKING 11:01 vfernandes INSIDE SERVER : yaz-client catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt:9998/biblios WORKING 11:01 vfernandes yaz-client inside server is working with the ip and with the domain 10:59 vfernandes first i have uncommented the line refered on point 1 of that page 10:59 vfernandes http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Koha_as_a_Z39.50_server 10:58 vfernandes any one here with experience to configurate koha as z39.50 server? 10:58 vfernandes hi ;) 09:56 cait Joubu: i really like the options it offers :) 09:56 cait so just the typos and a bit more testing and hopefully nothing iwll be found :) 09:55 Joubu great :) 09:55 cait Joubu: ok - i asked them, if you move the money, the old budget is not changed, so your implementation is like they would expect it work :) 09:50 cait i wanted to check with my coworkers today on how it works in their experience 09:50 cait i am not sure about this really 09:50 cait about the question, what i was wondering was, if you decide to move the money from the old to the new budget, together with the orders - should the money really move? like be removed from the old budget (subtracted) and added to the new? 09:49 cait heh 09:49 Joubu "Details" smells good 09:49 cait wht you prefer :) i think we have details in other places, but I didn't check 09:49 Joubu so Information or Details ? 09:49 Joubu haaa :) yes 09:48 cait my suggestions was to rename informations to information OR details 09:48 cait just checked your patch, i think i reated more confusion 09:48 Joubu cait: yes, good catch. If I don't click the checkbox, I see the .0000 09:47 cait it's really a tiny thing, not worth spending too much time on, just wanted to try and help you locate it 09:46 Joubu but I can hardcode the number of decimal values to display 09:46 cait Joubu: ah, i meant maybe when you decide not to move the funds, the line would look different 09:46 Joubu cait: We don't have a pref/setting to manage the price/number format 09:45 cait maybe different settings? 09:45 cait hm mine looked somewhat different this morning 09:45 cait the outputi had was without moving them maybe 09:45 cait ah 09:45 Joubu I got "budget_12 (id=82) Amount=400 (200 remaining has been moved)" 09:44 Joubu I am going to double check 09:43 cait ohoh :) 09:43 Joubu yep, but... 09:43 cait and the amoutn with the .000000 appeared in the dark grey lines for the fund - i think maybe only if you move the money too? 09:42 cait there is some kind of summary line in a darker grey and then there are the lines for the single orders 09:42 cait when you do the rollover, you get the report table with what has been moved 09:42 cait Joubu: i will start again 09:42 cait ashimema: it looks like a really great feature so far :) 09:41 cait so not in the lines with the moved orders 09:41 ashimema oh.. we'de be interested in that too ;) 09:41 cait the amount showed up in the grey lines 09:40 Joubu yep 09:40 cait do you have a sec for the rollovers? 09:40 Joubu cait: hi! 09:38 cait Joubu: around? 08:34 wahanui goodnight dcook. You'll be back. 08:34 dcook night all 08:34 dcook ok really going home this time 08:30 dcook The children and the wedding guests ;) 08:30 dcook hehe 08:30 cait children? 08:30 dcook So many germ factories... 08:30 dcook I think it's probably due to my wife working with kids and having attended two weddings this weekend 08:29 dcook hehe 08:29 cait hopefully not because of zebra and our way of mistreating it# 08:28 * dcook is feeling a bit sick at the moment actually :( 08:28 cait :) 08:28 cait get rest 08:28 cait yes go home 08:27 dcook On that note, I should really go home :p 08:27 dcook I think Search is one of the, if not THE, most important parts of the catalogue, so hopefully we can get it working better... 08:27 cait dcook++ 08:27 cait :) 08:26 dcook Yeah, I plan to look at QueryParser at some point after I iron out some of these issues with non-QP 08:26 dcook Totes 08:25 ashimema and I agree with you dcook.. zera used correctly is actually a very good search system.. we just don't use it well at all. 08:24 ashimema Would be lovely to get get QP to be the foundation for zebra.. 08:24 cait so many things would be nice really hm. 08:24 cait fixing the issues witht he query parser woudl be nice too... 08:23 cait ideas are good :) 08:19 dcook I have ideas :) 08:18 dcook I'm not volunteering to take on the Search Rewrite RFC, but I'll refactor as much code as possible 08:16 dcook (I imagine this is why Jared focused on introducing the QueryParser as his first step to fix Search) 08:15 dcook And, from what I've seen, a great number of the problems are due to poor query building 08:15 dcook But we don't treat it very well 08:15 dcook Zebra is actually a pretty decent beast 08:15 wahanui bidet, gaetan_B 08:15 gaetan_B hello 08:15 dcook But probably some major ones 08:15 dcook ashimema: Mmm, not all 08:12 ashimema Wow.. dcook.. did you just volunteer to fix all our zebra woes 07:57 dcook Not precise plans yet...but ideas 07:57 * dcook has ideas 07:56 dcook It's largely because QueryWeightFields and the truncation mechanisms really don't play well together 07:56 * dcook intends to fix that 07:56 dcook Yeah, a lot of the search sysprefs don't play well together 07:55 cait dcook: i think there was always something wrong with various combinations of the search prefs 07:48 dcook I'll need to do quite a bit of testing on this one though... 07:48 dcook And adds its own quotation marks which is a bad idea 07:48 dcook If I'm right, it was exploding because "_build_weighted_query" tries to be smarter than it is 07:47 dcook cait: Well, that'll have to get fixed too :p 07:47 dcook Ahhh, nevermind 07:46 dcook It looks like 3.14.3 might fix that.. 07:46 cait search explodes with one " 07:46 dcook Ah... 07:46 cait that's abit different 07:45 dcook At least it acknowledges that it doesn't work.. 07:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7518 normal, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, searches with quotation marks don't work 07:45 cait i think so 07:45 dcook $operand =~ s/"/ /g; # Bug 7518: searches with quotation marks don't work 07:45 dcook lol... 07:45 dcook I suppose so long as we know to say "Yeah...it was broken before...it's better now.", it might be ok 07:44 dcook Even though it's working better than before 07:44 dcook The only downside is that it will change expected search results, so librarians might complain 07:44 dcook If I'm able to finish some local tasks fast, I might be able to get to this later this week... 07:44 * dcook ponders 07:43 * cait totally believes that 07:43 dcook It's a bit of a nightmare at the moment 07:43 dcook Refactoring "_build_weighted_query" within C4::Search::buildQuery is high on my "want to do" list 07:41 dcook QueryWeightFields* 07:41 dcook When using...QueryWeightedFields 07:41 dcook If I'm right, doing a "library catalog" search with a query like "this is a query" (ie a query wrapped in double quotation marks) will never produce results 07:41 cait morning #koha 07:40 dcook doozy in this case means "huge and awful" 07:40 dcook hehe 07:40 paul_p dcook doozy mean dozen ? ( in this case, it mean you're read only the first 100 lines :D ) 07:39 dcook Oooo, I think I might have found a doozy of a C4::Search bug...lol 07:15 fridolin hie all 07:02 marcelr hi #koha 07:00 wahanui hola, reiveune 07:00 reiveune hello 06:51 paul_p yo dcook & others 06:49 dcook yo ashimema and paul_p 06:48 dcook later eythian 06:48 eythian later :) 06:48 ashimema have a nice evening. 06:48 ashimema haha.. thanks eythian. 06:46 eythian also, it's late :) 06:46 eythian The neighbourhood is going downhill ;) 06:46 eythian I'm off now. 06:46 eythian hi ashimema 06:44 ashimema Good morning #koha 06:42 dcook lol 06:36 eythian http://www.bash.org/?60469 06:35 cait bbiab 06:35 huginn cait: Quote #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one does not bask in the Potomac River basin...you melt or swelter or something, but you don't bask. :P" (added by jwagner at 01:17 PM, January 24, 2011) 06:35 cait @quote random 06:35 huginn cait: Quote #157: "wizzyrea: bbiaf -> I know that means be back in a few but my brain told me that meant be back in a fire oleonard: similar to the common ctaof, for Can't talk, am on fire" (added by wizzyrea at 04:38 PM, September 23, 2011) 06:35 cait @quote random 06:27 huginn dcook: Quote #215: "mtompset> So would a Fire Weasel be a dev_hyperspace rift opening and spewing vast amounts of unformatted data at you?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:42 PM, August 22, 2012) 06:27 dcook @quote random 06:27 dcook Hmm, turns out you should really log out and log in after turning that stuff on... 06:26 * dcook grumbles about IndependentBranches 06:25 huginn eythian: Quote #69: "<schuster> Now if I could only figure out how to control those daemons... or at least the ones in my head..." (added by jwagner at 02:02 PM, March 17, 2010) 06:25 eythian @quote random 06:25 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 06:25 huginn eythian: Quote #166: "jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking." (added by wizzyrea at 03:06 PM, November 17, 2011) 06:25 eythian @quote random 06:25 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 06:25 huginn eythian: Error: 'random' is not a valid id. 06:25 eythian @quote get random 06:24 dcook :D 06:23 huginn cait: Quote #306: "<cait> i can not not plan! i am german!" (added by eythian at 06:23 AM, June 30, 2014) 06:23 cait @quote get 306 06:23 huginn dcook: I suck 06:23 dcook @quote 306 06:23 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded. Quote #306 added. 06:23 wahanui i already had it that way, eythian. 06:23 eythian @quote add <cait> i can not not plan! i am german! 06:22 cait eythian: you should plan better and log in :) 06:22 cait meanies... hmpf. 06:22 eythian hmm 06:22 huginn eythian: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 06:22 eythian @quote add <cait> i can not not plan! i am german! 06:21 dcook "<cait>i can not not plan! i am german!" 06:21 * dcook thinks someone should add that quote... 06:21 dcook hehe 06:21 eythian you have a problem then :) 06:19 cait i can not not plan! i am german! 06:19 papa :) 06:19 cait meanies :) 06:19 dcook papa: Sneaky 06:19 dcook ^ 06:19 eythian next time, don't plan 06:19 eythian cait: you made it rain by planning. 06:19 papa I'm under cover 06:18 dcook Hmm, your website only says Sydney and Melbourne? 06:18 cait why is it rain always starts when i am just about to walk to work? 06:18 papa happy Wellington days 06:17 dcook hehe 06:17 eythian dcook: he's effectively an honourary NZer. Despite living in AU. 06:17 dcook Oh? 06:16 papa those happy days are gone... 06:16 dcook I didn't know that there were any Koha Catalyst people in Oz 06:16 dcook papa: I always assumed that you were in NZ too 06:13 eythian dcook: papa is our Brisbane office. 06:13 papa yep, why? 06:12 cait eythian: breakfast 06:11 dcook papa: You live in Oz? 06:11 eythian what's taking you so long? 06:11 eythian well, I sent it about 4 minutes ago 06:11 cait eythian: i do, but i don't remember anything about htat 06:11 eythian http://2014.osdc.com.au/ <-- or this link 06:10 eythian cait: read your email :) 06:10 eythian "Griffith University Gold Coast campus" 06:10 cait you all got me curious 06:10 cait proposals for...? :) 06:09 papa do they have the venue sorted out? 06:09 papa 45 mins to an hour drive 06:09 eythian Surely it's a short walk from where you are anyway. 06:09 papa nope :) 06:08 eythian papa: got your talk topic worked out yet? :) 06:08 eythian there we go, sent 05:57 dcook You got one person out of the woodwork so far :p 05:57 dcook Good idea sending to the list 05:57 dcook Hope so 05:57 eythian sounds good 05:57 dcook Debated the last line a lot 05:56 dcook Here's mine without the nice formatting of yours ;) http://paste.koha-community.org/69 05:55 eythian I should post something to the Koha list, might get a few people out of the woodwork. 05:54 dcook Sweet. I like it. 05:53 eythian I might think of more over the next couple of days 05:53 eythian http://paste.koha-community.org/68 <-- here's mine 05:53 dcook What topics are you thinking about? 05:53 dcook I think it's interesting, haha 05:52 * dcook shrugs 05:52 dcook I think it'll focus a bit on benefits/drawbacks, but the conclusion will be sort of "Cultivating an open source community" territory 05:51 eythian That's OK, I've done those talks there before. 05:51 dcook At least in terms of the wording 05:51 dcook I guess I focused more on the business side than the community side of things though 05:50 dcook Not really that happy with my proposal, but I usually dislike anything I write :p 05:50 dcook Asks a few questions about a few scenarios (offering/asking for help, competing for clients) 05:50 eythian ah, cool. 05:50 dcook Basically, "can you be friends with the competition?" 05:50 dcook Good question, lol 05:47 eythian dcook: what was your topic in the end? 05:36 eythian sweet 05:33 dcook It looks like I'll go even if they don't accept it :) 05:33 dcook Yep! Don't have long now... 05:33 eythian I should start writing something up today too 05:33 eythian awesome :) 05:33 dcook eythian: proposal sent :) 05:02 cait wish i could :) 05:01 eythian go back to bed 05:01 eythian hi cait 04:22 dcook It's not enough to turn it on and then switch to a different F12 tab 04:22 dcook You have to have the F12 debugger open on the screen for it to work though 04:21 dcook wizzyrea: Yep, works fine on emulated IE9. I'd try the F12 dev tools, turn on the debugger for "Unhandled exceptions" (if it isn't already), then try saving a preference. 04:15 dcook Looks like jquery.js has a few syntax errors that IE doesn't love but doesn't die on 04:13 dcook wizzyrea: Actually, if you have your IE in debugging mode, you might be able to catch error messages before you crash 04:12 * dcook was just looking at syspref saving a few weeks ago... 04:10 dcook If it's hanging, I would look at the ajax call for sure.. 04:09 dcook Especially when using debugging mode 04:09 dcook I've had it crash when emulating older versions 04:09 dcook Are you using IE9 or an emulated version of 9? 04:09 wizzyrea it's a windows box. Not really surprising. 04:09 dcook Wow.. 04:09 wizzyrea crashed IE anyway 04:09 dcook Killed it? 04:08 wizzyrea but you know I just killed it testing this 04:08 wizzyrea well I have a laptop here 04:08 dcook Trying to think how you could remotely troubleshoot that one 04:08 * dcook ponders 04:07 dcook I don't have an IE9 VM (although I should probably get one sometime) 04:07 dcook Saving sysprefs works ok in an emulated IE9 04:07 dcook Hmm 04:07 dcook Yeah, the marc upload won't work without that 10652 patch 04:06 wizzyrea staging marc files I should say 04:06 wizzyrea uploading marc files hangs at 0% 04:06 wizzyrea saving system preferences hangs with a spinning dealie 04:06 dcook ? 04:06 dcook What was the description of the problem/ 04:05 dcook Hmm 04:05 dcook durr 04:05 dcook Ah, 9 04:05 wahanui Which is quite horrible 04:05 dcook Which? 04:05 wizzyrea it was short lived. 04:05 dcook IE9 is a special kind of hell too though 04:05 dcook Yep 04:05 wahanui somebody said 3.14 was coming out in November, so anything that gets bumped shouldn't be waiting too long. 04:05 wizzyrea 3.14? 04:05 dcook The folks I have on IE8 haven't had troubles with it yet 04:05 wizzyrea though marc upload mayb erelated to bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10652 04:05 dcook Hmmm 04:04 wizzyrea 3.14 04:04 dcook Yikes...that doesn't sound good 04:03 wizzyrea IE9 - apparently it can't save system preferences? 04:03 * dcook is "happy" to field IE questions :) 04:02 dcook Hmm? 04:02 eythian wizzyrea: don't forget that dcook is the IE expert around these parts 03:26 eythian no problem 03:26 dcook eythian++ 03:26 dcook Thanks for sharing the link! 03:26 dcook Sounds like a plan :) 03:16 eythian you can edit afterwards. 03:16 dcook Whether I speak or not, I'll probably go anyway 03:16 eythian yeah 03:16 dcook I'll do it now :) 03:16 dcook July 4th :/ 03:16 eythian keep an eye on the closing date, it's not very far away. 03:16 eythian Awesome :) 03:15 dcook I shall write somethign up :) 03:15 dcook Bossman also is up for me going to OSDC! 03:15 dcook My dad had a lot of police friends :p 03:15 dcook Actually...there may have been a few other times as a child 03:14 dcook The only time I was behind bars was during a tour as a cub scout :p 03:14 dcook :p 03:14 eythian I bet it was a close call for a moment there! 03:13 dcook The Australian National Police say that I'm not a criminal! 03:13 dcook Huzzah! 02:58 eythian sure would. 02:58 dcook Would be good to meet up for beers :) 02:58 dcook I'll bring it up with the bossman. It sounds fun. 02:51 eythian do, I've done a few talks at OSDC in the past, it's good fun. 02:50 dcook I've been thinking about trying to get to more developer stuff rather than just library stuff 02:50 dcook It's tempting to do a talk... 02:49 eythian heh 02:48 * dcook might still be making up for that 02:48 * dcook may have gone to Kohacon which overlapped his wife's birthday 02:48 * dcook double checks the dates for birthdays and other life events 02:48 eythian you can always just go :) 02:47 dcook Hmm, no idea what I would talk about though 02:46 eythian yeah, I haven't been over to AU for a couple of years. 02:46 dcook Good excuse to go to Queensland 02:45 dcook Hmm 02:44 kathryn ah, good 02:44 eythian papa has also been told^Wasked to submit something ;) 02:44 kathryn cool! 02:42 eythian oh kathryn, just fyi ...^ 02:42 eythian I've got approval to submit a talk to it, so will probably be there. 02:41 * dcook checks 02:41 dcook Oh yeah...I clicked the link, eythian, but didn't look at it 02:31 dcook Even though it could well be higher than that 02:31 dcook But I remember a fair bit of discussion about how that's impossible to know 02:31 dcook I imagine that's where the 10,000+ is from as well? I recall seeing the number 02:31 dcook Mmm 02:30 rangi a long time ago 02:30 rangi thats what the old koha site used to say 02:30 dcook Well, maybe not more than 120+ :p, but 120 just seems a strange number to base it on, unless it was chosen a long time ago 02:29 rangi yep, patch is in passed qa to be pushed 02:29 dcook rangi: Interesting. I looked at master for that value :/ 02:28 rangi a lot more than 120+ anyway 02:28 rangi dcook: 252 now 02:01 eythian http://2014.osdc.com.au/ <-- dcook, what are you going to submit? 00:36 dcook Ahh, no worries. I just had a question about GitStats. Not important in the last :) 00:36 rangi just about to duck out for lunch 00:35 dcook rangi: Are you about?