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23:36 tcohen :-D
23:36 tcohen Oops
23:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12428: remove debugging leftover <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e497b131943b375723bffebe89a0ce8a8600f112>
22:40 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'
22:40 wizzyrea more confetti?
22:40 wahanui somebody said confetti was http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif
22:40 wizzyrea confetti?
22:40 wahanui confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif
22:40 wizzyrea confetti?
21:30 carmenh lol thanks @cait and @rangi
21:30 wahanui pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems.
21:30 cait pianohacker?
21:28 nengard damn skippy :)
21:28 wahanui somebody said nengard was the queen of documentation.
21:28 nengard nengard?
21:25 cait heh
21:25 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS!
21:25 cait rangi?
21:21 wahanui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD0mif8R9vQ
21:21 rangi yeah buddy
21:20 wahanui git is mostly needed when you want to do development, there are packages for debian that can make my life eaiser installing it
21:20 cait git?
21:20 wahanui documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/
21:20 cait documentation?
21:20 wahanui :)
21:20 cait wahanui botsnack cookies
21:20 cait hmmm also ....
21:19 rangi that one is quite handy
21:19 huginn rangi: Contains title as abbreviated for indexing or identification. An abbreviated key title is supplied by ISSN centers, based on the Key Title (Field 222). Other abbreviated titles are supplied by cataloging agencies, including abstracting and indexing services. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8]
21:19 rangi @marc 210
21:18 huginn rangi: unknown tag 200
21:18 rangi @marc 200
21:15 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found.
21:15 cait @wunder will take airport codes... i think also zipcodes and place names
21:12 huginn carmenh: Of course.
21:12 carmenh @eightball
21:12 huginn carmenh: Quote #304: "<dcook> I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out." (added by wizzyrea at 03:44 AM, April 03, 2014)
21:12 huginn cait: It is so.
21:12 carmenh @quote random
21:12 cait @eightball was that right?
21:12 cait or... if you need an answer... @eightball was that right?
21:11 huginn cait: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 07:12 PM, September 25, 2009)
21:11 cait @quote random
21:11 cait or when you get bored, you can get a quote
21:11 cait you can get wather reports from huginn
21:11 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 17.0°C (11:00 PM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
21:11 cait @wunder Konstanz
21:11 carmenh rangi
21:10 carmenh setting up emails, downloading programs, all that fun stuff :) …. and no to the bots :)
21:08 rangi carmenh: what are you doing on your first day? looking around? has nengard showed you the bots in here yet?
21:07 cait now you were faster than me
21:06 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Development_IRC_meeting,_2_July_2014
21:06 rangi right added to the agenda
21:06 cait i didn't find the other page and then forgot about it
21:06 cait ah i added the page
21:05 rangi but not now
21:05 rangi http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Meetings missing from here
21:05 rangi ill add that too
21:05 rangi hmm
21:04 cait dev meeting
21:04 cait yep
21:04 rangi is the next meeting july 2?
21:03 cait yeah, I think that'd be good
21:03 rangi ill bring it up in the next meeting
21:03 rangi i hope we can get back to regular monthly maintenance releases
21:03 cait yeah it#s true
21:02 rangi ive noticed our dates around the releases seem to be getting a bit muddled up, it always used to be then 22nd .. now it seems a bit random (excepting kyle who pretty much hit the date)
21:02 rangi (just the release announcement to go eh)
21:01 rangi khall++
21:00 cait khall++ # new 3.12 release :)
20:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12428 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC
20:25 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12428: (QA followup) regression tests.
20:25 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 12428 - "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC
20:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #21: UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/21/
20:24 nengard Hell's kitchen
20:24 rangi heh
20:24 nengard No
20:24 nengard he fell asleep watching Kitchen Nightmares
20:24 cait aah
20:24 nengard :)
20:24 nengard came all the way from NZ to help me move in!!
20:23 rangi helping nengard move into her house
20:23 cait so where did you meet nengard the first time? :)
20:23 rangi for those who don't know, the first time i met nengard in person, was the same time i met carmenh
20:23 carmenh yes sir. first official day :)
20:22 nengard :)
20:22 rangi ohhh look its carmenh !!!
20:18 carmenh hello rangi :)
20:16 rangi heya bag, cait and pianohacker
20:16 cait hi bag :)
20:16 bag heya cait and rangi
20:13 pianohacker cait: response to 10486 is coming, have been travelling
20:13 cait rangi++
20:13 rangi im sending a patch to update history.txt and about.tt shortly
20:13 pianohacker wooo!
20:13 cait hi pianohacker
20:13 rangi we are at 252 people with patches in koha now
20:13 pianohacker oh. Hi cait!
20:12 pianohacker hi rangi
20:10 cait mornng rangi :)
20:10 rangi morning
19:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11742 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Overdue notice/status triggers displaying the wrong notice for default
19:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12350 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Disable apache indexes on package installation by default
19:59 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11742: (QA followup) wrong number of tests
19:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: FIX the code parameter was not take into account
19:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: A letter code should be unique.
19:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: Change return type for GetLetters
19:59 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 12350 - disable apache indexes
19:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #27: FIXED in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/27/
19:59 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:59 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12428: (QA followup) regression tests. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=966e70e4b07d1254845748e7b4a846d0ad3ce44d> / Bug 12428 - "OPAC info" is not displayed in the OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5602bf8136ec1d2d9f353cd8d55b1db784ae7b2>
19:48 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "cait: tests" (37 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/59
19:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11742 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Overdue notice/status triggers displaying the wrong notice for default
19:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12350 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Disable apache indexes on package installation by default
19:37 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11742: (QA followup) wrong number of tests
19:37 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: FIX the code parameter was not take into account
19:37 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: A letter code should be unique.
19:37 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11742: Change return type for GetLetters
19:37 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 12350 - disable apache indexes
19:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #20: FIXED in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/20/
19:37 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
19:37 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
19:11 cait hola!
19:10 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.248.212 pasted "cait: is this supposed to work?" (42 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/58
18:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12231 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , AllowMultipleIssuesOnABiblio description misleading
18:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12086 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Hold priorities incorrect, when waiting status was reversed
18:56 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12231 - Update AllowMultipleIssuesOnABiblio language
18:56 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12086: qa-followup: remove warning on launching unit tests
18:56 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12086 - Hold priorities incorrect, when waiting status was reversed
18:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #19: UNSTABLE in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/19/
18:29 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11742: (QA followup) wrong number of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c81f58a1c821905fb89016487325264390065cdd> / Bug 11742: FIX the code parameter was not take into account <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ac6af8fe21c6838f1a0b5e3e8bf3efd0ee16156> / Bug 11742: A letter code should be unique. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitd
18:09 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12231 - Update AllowMultipleIssuesOnABiblio language <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1692ab4cdf620012bd02b2c21094e02218f50c0c> / Bug 12086: qa-followup: remove warning on launching unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a717931d7dfc08d9ae283bdae548727d63711a2a> / Bug 12086 - Hold priorities incorrect, when waiting status was reversed <http://git.koha-
17:09 wahanui hey, bag
17:09 bag hello
15:08 cait :)
15:08 nlegrand I'm quite happy, I got a snapshots of our database upgraded from 3.2 -> 3.16 right now, and it seems to work :). Let's find bugs and plug our one year custom dev! ^^
15:06 nlegrand Ok!
15:06 cait :)
15:06 reiveune bye
15:05 cait that you provided a patch or that you plan to work on one
15:05 nlegrand But I'm not sure of what it means when a bug is assigned to you? :)
15:04 nlegrand Thanks!
15:03 nlegrand ho
15:02 * cait assignes 12466 to nlegrand
15:01 cait nlegrand: when you propose a patch or work on one, you can assign the bug to yourself :)
15:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12466 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Bad updatedatabase.pl message for $DBversion = "3.15.00.049";
15:00 nlegrand When I said I was about to talk about modern Koha, I wasn't lying. I also propose MAJOR improvement like Bug 12466 ^^
14:57 nengard hiya
14:56 cait hi nengard :)
14:41 khall hit most of northeastern US
14:41 cait i like thunderstorms, but without the tornados please
14:41 khall we had some pretty massive thunderstorms with tornadoe here a few days ago
14:40 cait looks like we might be getting a thunderstorm
14:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 22.4°C (4:40 PM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
14:40 cait @wunder Konstanz
14:40 cait khall++
14:37 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Update release notes for 3.12.13 release
14:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_U12 build #2: FIXED in 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x_U12/2/
14:37 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:37 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
14:34 cait yay :)
14:32 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Update release notes for 3.12.13 release
14:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x_D7 build #2: FIXED in 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x_D7/2/
14:32 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
14:32 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
13:52 mveron Welcome :-)
13:52 cait mveron: thx!
13:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12295 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Javascript error when merging authorities
13:51 mveron cait: Regarding the authority popup: Have a look at Bug 12295 - Javascript error when merging authorities
13:51 pianohacker s/some/terrifying amounts of/
13:51 cait carmenh: i work for a support provider in germany and also do some QA :)
13:50 mveron Hi #koha
13:49 cait nice :) welcome to #koha :)
13:49 cait heh
13:49 carmenh I am a new trainer :) ... and hello cait
13:49 edveal Sorry Nengard just told me not to tease you, cait :)
13:49 cait edveal: you all have nice job titles, i was just curious ;)
13:48 edveal cait she is working…
13:47 cait what are you doing at bywater?
13:47 cait hi carmenh :)
13:46 carmenh Hello everyone! My name is Carmen and I am a new Bywater employee. Looking forward to meeting/chatting with you all.
13:10 magnuse have fun, #koha!
13:10 magnuse hiya pianohacker!
13:09 pianohacker good morning
13:02 cait but the button doesn't bring up a pop up for me
13:01 cait i have 2 authority z-targets configured
12:58 cait does someone know if there is a bug?
12:58 cait i am trying ti omport an authority via z39.50 in 3.16.0
12:58 cait hm
12:47 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 13.0°C (9:00 AM ART on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
12:47 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:47 tcohen morning #koha
12:11 cait :)
12:11 nlegrand I plan to talk about _maintained_ version soon ^^
12:10 nlegrand cait: ok :)
11:44 khall mornin cait!
11:44 cait hi khall
11:10 khall mornin magnuse!
11:10 magnuse hiya khall
10:06 cait nlegrand: i think 3.8 is not maintained, so it wuld be documented but not likely to get fixed
09:56 paxed eh, wut? why is items.renewals NULL?
09:54 paxed doesn't show the 0 i would expect.
09:54 paxed damnit. if items.renewals is zero, the slip shows NOTHING.
09:35 nlegrand and go on sorry
09:35 nlegrand my question is : is it worth to report it for 3.8.x ? Or should I fix it in my instance und weiter gehen?
09:34 nlegrand here is the fix (I guess), from master: http://pastebin.com/fQzPruRD
09:34 nlegrand checkouting 3.8.x from a 3.6.x brings me this error on opac and intranet : Global symbol "$itemnumbers" requires explicit package name at /var/repositories/koha/C4/Biblio.pm line 2844.
09:33 huginn 04Bug 9046: critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Items are not exported with the tools/export.pl
09:33 nlegrand I'm talking to you again from older versions :). I'm testing upgrade, and i think I have a bug in 3.8.x brought by this bug : http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9046
09:30 nlegrand Hey #koha!
08:30 paxed (of course, if i had to guess, the perl gettext implementation doesn't)
08:29 paxed cait: gettext supports plural forms.
08:28 cait paxed: not nice, but not sure how to do it in a better way
08:27 paxed hard-coded plural forms! eeek!
08:27 paxed [% IF acquisition_details.total_quantity == 1 %] 1 item is on order. [% ELSE %] [% acquisition_details.total_quantity %] items are on order. [% END %]
08:21 magnuse hiya ashimema
08:20 cait good morning ashimema
08:20 ashimema good morning #koha
08:17 magnuse there is also etc/zebradb/etc/word-phrase-utf.chr
08:17 cait there is an example for arabic on the wiki - that should give you an idea
08:16 cait you want to change the icu file and add a transliteration rule there
08:16 cait icu
08:16 cait when using isu
08:16 cait hm it depends
08:15 magnuse i *think* it might be etc/zebradb/lang_defs/<lancode>/sort-string-utf.chr
08:14 paxed if you meant etc/zebradb/lang_defs/en/sort-string-utf.chr
08:13 paxed i thought that was for search results only?
08:12 magnuse there is a zebra config file for mapping characters
08:09 paxed using zebra, when user searches for "nesbo", they should also get results for "nesbø" - how can i do that?
07:32 dcook Looks like it's pretty old code anyway
07:31 dcook But I was referring to the weird loop someone wrote :p
07:31 dcook True
07:31 magnuse MARC is weird ;-)
07:29 dcook GetMarcNotes is weiiird
07:01 alex_a bonjour
07:01 Viktor hi magnuse
07:01 magnuse bonjour alex_a och Viktor
06:57 yohann Salut magnuse
06:57 magnuse bonjour yohann
06:46 cait bbiab
06:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 19.8°C (8:44 AM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
06:44 reiveune bonjour magnuse
06:44 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:44 huginn magnuse: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
06:44 magnuse @wudner marseille
06:44 magnuse bonjour reiveune et paul_p
06:40 reiveune hello
06:35 dcook Can't tell if someone has changed the triggers since reporting the issue as well..
06:35 dcook Hmm, I dislike issues with overdues...
06:32 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 9.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
06:32 magnuse @wunder boo
06:32 cait hm ok, supposed to rain in the evening
06:31 cait weather here is difficult
06:31 cait hmmm
06:31 dcook Hmm, the only downside of having the heat on in the office is that it's going to feel colder outside..
06:31 cait hmmm
06:31 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 17.0°C (4:00 PM EST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
06:31 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
06:30 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.6°C (8:30 AM CEST on June 23, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
06:30 cait @wunder Konstanz
06:30 cait heh
06:30 dcook Possible but highly unlikely :)
06:30 dcook royal flush would have to be five sign offs following each other numerically
06:30 dcook flush
06:30 dcook flush? royal flush?
06:27 cait maybe
06:27 cait that woudl be 2 sharing 2/3
06:26 cait heh
06:25 magnuse full house?
06:25 magnuse we should have a name for when one person holds all the 5 spots in the "Last 5 sign offs" list :-)
06:25 magnuse bgkriegel++
06:21 cait bgkriegel++
06:20 cait yep
06:20 magnuse and now it's 45?
06:17 cait :)
06:17 cait hm i swear i left the qa queue at 38.... last night
06:12 * magnuse waves
06:08 dcook Neat
06:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12461 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add patron clubs feature
06:05 cait bug 12461
06:05 cait my thought was that maybe he wanted a fresh start, also probably needs some of a rewrite by now
06:05 dcook Ahh, that would explain it a bit
06:04 cait only for the clubs
06:04 cait dcook: i tink i saw that kyle made a new bug
06:02 cait hi dcook :)
06:02 dcook hey cait :)
06:02 cait :)
06:02 cait hi eythian
06:02 eythian hi cait
05:32 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
05:32 dcook @later tell pianohacker Nevermind about --$i I think I see now :p
05:30 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
05:30 dcook @later tell pianohacker I think your comment is incorrect here. It should include all "errcode" AND those messages "my $exception = $server->{connection}->exception();#ignores errmsg, addinfo, diagset"
05:28 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
05:28 dcook @later tell pianohacker Shouldn't --$i be $i - 1 in the following code? "my $server = $servers[ --$i ];"
05:13 pianohacker cool. Okay, I need to go to bed. Night man :)
05:11 dcook But I haven't looked too closely yet
05:11 dcook As far as I know, just not implemented
05:10 pianohacker ah yeah that's what I meant. Interesting. Fundamental reasons it can't, or just not implemented?
05:10 dcook (Well silently croaks)
05:09 dcook They'll work, but QP croaks and falls back to non-QP
05:09 dcook You can find "kw,phr", "ti,phr", etc. in the advanced search
05:09 dcook How do you mean?
05:08 pianohacker could have sworn I saw the search interface output those
05:08 pianohacker the lack of qualifiers
05:08 dcook Hmm?
05:08 pianohacker ah, hrm. Doesn't that break parts of the frontend (for both of those)
05:07 dcook It's relevance ranking needs some work, although that's just a bit of a time investment..
05:07 dcook It'll do "kw" but not "kw,phr"
05:07 dcook It can't handle anything with a qualifier like ',phr'
05:07 pianohacker like?
05:07 dcook Ideally, I'd like to use QueryParser more, but it needs some fixes
05:06 dcook Yeah, I build a simple PQF query at the moment with my utility
05:06 dcook When "my $connection = ZOOM::Connection->new($server->host,$server->port,$zoptions);" works quite well
05:06 pianohacker Yup. I actually just have the frontend send in PQF, I did not want to touch that rats nest
05:06 dcook $connection->connect( $server->host, $server->port );
05:06 dcook my $connection = ZOOM::Connection->create($zoptions);
05:06 dcook I noticed that we often use this syntax as well:
05:05 dcook Same for building queries. Breeding...ugh.
05:04 pianohacker well, in theory it could appear once ;) but yes that's a good idea
05:03 dcook I was just thinking to reduce the number of times we have the code popping up throughout Koha
05:03 pianohacker for SRU support and whatnot?
05:03 dcook So that we'd have one sub somewhere to create ZOOM connections
05:02 dcook I was thinking about trying to abstract the code out a bit more
05:02 pianohacker as you should
04:59 * dcook shudders at the mention of Breeding
04:58 pianohacker dcook: here, take a look at the code: https://github.com/pianohacker/koha/blob/rancor-submit/Koha/MetaSearcher.pm
04:55 pianohacker * entirely in Koha::, and in theory the Breeding API could be ported to it
04:55 pianohacker dcook: I managed to build the new metasearcher entirely in Koha, and in theory
04:54 dcook pianohacker: For sure. I'd love to at least consolidate some of our Z39.50 code, but I have the feeling it'll be quite the uphill battle..
04:47 pianohacker "USB 4.0, so good it makes circles twice as circley"
04:47 eythian pianohacker: it doesn't have to be 4 dimensional. It's just 720° around.
04:46 pianohacker dcook: That's definitely possible. Would definitely want to build it on the new APIs though
04:46 pianohacker dcook: this is for rancor
04:46 pianohacker 4th-dimensional connectors! They're the latest greatest thing
04:45 dcook eythian: lol
04:44 dcook pianohacker: I was looking at C4::Search, and noticed that we could potentially incorporate results from external Z39.50 targets into the Koha search results, yeah? I suppose it would take a fair bit of reworking though...
04:44 eythian http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1394-j <-- this explains everything
04:43 dcook project*
04:43 dcook Which projects is yours for?
04:43 dcook Actually, now that I think about it..
04:42 dcook (Ahhhh. That makes sense.)
04:42 pianohacker ahhh gotcha
04:42 dcook Mostly it'll be looking up holdings data for multiple targets for ILL
04:42 pianohacker (Ah, right, overloaded word. 0-based position.)
04:42 dcook It's sort of a multi-purpose utility
04:42 pianohacker dcook: what is your project for?
04:42 dcook (Index in what sense?)
04:41 pianohacker Yeah, it really depends if you're doing inter-target sorting
04:41 pianohacker (yup)
04:41 dcook I suppose your use case is more complex though so this would be the way to do it..
04:40 dcook I thought about doing it that way, but I wasn't sure if it would be more efficient to do that or to just have the hash key as my ID and then the array of records looked up by that.
04:40 dcook Cool beans :)
04:40 dcook (index within that server's results?)
04:39 pianohacker yup. Each result is a hashref (later JSONified) containing the server ID, extracted metadata fields using the koha to marc mapping, marcxml record and index within that servers's results (before sorting)
04:37 dcook pianohacker: You pass it along with the individual record then?
04:37 dcook pianohacker: Ahh, I thought that might be the case
04:37 dcook key's value*
04:37 dcook key*
04:37 dcook Where I just have the host as a key and then X records in a array as that hash's value
04:36 pianohacker dcook: It's matched between the frontend and backend by the ID on z3950servers, so it could be displayed however. I display the description of the server though
04:36 dcook Whether I want to have a hash with the host, record, etc. Or if I put it into a more hierarchical hash..
04:36 dcook eythian: Yeah, I know where my results are coming from, I'm just not sure how I want to do it
04:36 dcook pianohacker: What info do you use? Host?
04:35 eythian either that or you know what worker you're fetching from, and work it out from there.
04:35 pianohacker It is labeled in the results, yeah
04:35 eythian like, tuples or something
04:35 eythian you pass the data around
04:35 dcook Still debating on whether or not it's important to know where they're from
04:34 dcook I'm doing up a little z39.50 client that does async searches on multiple targets, and I'm pondering how best to return my results
04:34 dcook Or is that irrelevant?
04:34 dcook Hmm, so how do you know which result is from which server?
04:34 pianohacker Ah, no, they're mixed together, as the sorting is across all results
04:33 dcook That is, do you organize them by connection/hostname?
04:33 dcook pianohacker: How do you return your results?
04:33 pianohacker dcook: in briefly, what's up?
04:31 wizzyrea our git is getting overloaded a lot lately
04:00 dcook Thanks, rangi. That looks better :)
03:40 dcook Cool. Not that I'm trying to be angsty or anything. I just like to watch the numbers :).
03:39 rangi it might have been git was overloaded when it tried to run, ill run them again manually
03:35 * dcook just looked it up in master as well
03:34 dcook June 6th
03:33 dcook e897e11c65d1a5cbeb5ca5bff5a83a41269588c1 according to GH
03:33 rangi whats the commit sha?
03:33 rangi on master
03:33 dcook Github has it :/
03:33 dcook It was committed 2 days ago and authored 17
03:33 rangi if i do a git log
03:32 dcook That's what I thought at first
03:32 rangi maybe you are confusing the date it was pushed, with the date it was committed
03:32 rangi not in the git log of master
03:32 dcook Wait...not 21st
03:32 dcook Should be June 21st, I think
03:32 rangi Date: Wed May 21 13:22:10 2014 +1000
03:32 rangi Author: David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au>
03:32 rangi last commit was may 21
03:31 dcook (As little as it is :P)
03:31 dcook Hmm, mine doesn't seem to be
03:31 rangi and yep they are up to date
03:30 rangi yep they update every day
03:29 dcook It says it was though..
03:29 dcook Hmm, don't know if the koha master stats are updating..
02:57 dcook Hmm?
02:54 wizzyrea I am glad I am not the only one who does that
02:14 tcohen byeee
02:14 tcohen night "koha
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01:19 dcook I had some questions about how you're handling your metasearch results..
01:19 dcook pianohacker: you still around?
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01:17 eythian whatever happened to irma_963
00:58 rangi and that was the total wrong window :)
00:58 rangi so ill load that live after lunch
00:58 rangi right, got the ok from tim, data from ero looks fine in their test db
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00:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12393 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , OverDrive does not depend on SSL modules for LWP, causing searches to fail
00:56 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive
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00:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12393 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , OverDrive does not depend on SSL modules for LWP, causing searches to fail
00:51 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive
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00:39 * eythian is not really with it today
00:39 eythian next stable
00:39 eythian oh
00:39 eythian tcohen: I see no mention of it going to stable in that bug
00:38 pianohacker woo time zones
00:37 eythian hmm, lunch
00:37 pianohacker bbl dinner
00:35 eythian well this is good news, I wonder if Ubuntu will SRU it
00:35 eythian I thought you meant koha stable :)
00:35 eythian oh
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00:35 tcohen https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734865
00:34 eythian tcohen: how?
00:34 tcohen eythian: the mpm-itk install problem is about to be fixed on stable
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00:28 pianohacker ooh, I wonder.
00:28 pianohacker beautiful solution to Python's GIL problem :) Guess I'll just have to benchmark and see if it's a huge issue
00:28 eythian Or maybe it does COW anyway, which _looks_ a lot like having your own copies
00:28 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive
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00:27 eythian it's probably able to be smart and just duplicate the required bits.
00:27 eythian I dunno
00:27 eythian oh right
00:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12393 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Pushed to Master , OverDrive does not depend on SSL modules for LWP, causing searches to fail
00:26 jenkins_koha Jesse Weaver: Bug 12393 - Depend on SSL module for LWP, for OverDrive
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00:26 pianohacker this is the thread thing though: http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/perl-5.18.2/pod/perlthrtut.pod#Shared_And_Unshared_Data
00:25 eythian I assume that perl does too
00:25 eythian though a glibc fork actually ends up calling clone()
00:25 pianohacker oh for fork yes
00:24 eythian http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13813636/how-does-copy-on-write-in-fork-handle-multiple-fork
00:24 * pianohacker goes to documentation... stack overflow disagrees but it might be wrong
00:23 eythian there's no wholesale data copy, as it's all copy-on-write
00:23 pianohacker eythian: are there any major issues besides the wholesale data copy when the interpreter for the new thread is spawned?
00:22 eythian I've only used Perl threads once, a long time ago. It seemed to work OK.
00:22 eythian This does sound like the sort of thing that threading might be better for
00:21 eythian yeah
00:20 pianohacker s/server/main process/
00:20 pianohacker I don't think that would be a huge issue, since in theory the request won't finish until the threads are done, but if forking works with plack, I don't want to touch the rat's nest I've heard perl threading is. The only issue then is how to send data back to the server
00:20 eythian However, if it doesn't, and everything interacting with the threads is thread-safe, there's probably no reason not to go that way.
00:19 eythian This may or may not upset threads running in that process.
00:19 eythian plack processes get reaped after a certain number of requests
00:18 pianohacker woah. Okay then. To hell with that madness then
00:18 eythian but
00:18 eythian I have no particular reason to expect that plack will upset threads
00:18 eythian That surprised me too.
00:18 eythian forking doesn't appear to upset plack (there were some issues with it, but they were more implementation problems.)
00:17 pianohacker that's why I asked if I was crazy
00:17 eythian You want to use perl threading?
00:16 pianohacker oh. Isn't that a fork rather than a thread, though? Would that cause problems with plack?
00:15 eythian (the processing of an uploaded MARC file)
00:15 eythian Well, it's really just spinning off a worker thread, but it's the same thing essentially.
00:15 pianohacker eythian: multithreading in koha?
00:15 eythian Not a whole lot, it's done in one or two other places.
00:15 pianohacker (Given that Z39.50 searches are currently time constrained by MARC-8 -> UTF-8 conversion rather than the network.)
00:14 eythian pianohacker: it depends.
00:14 pianohacker I have a crazy question for y'all. Just how many problems would it cause for me to introduce multithreading into the metasearcher I'm writing for rancor?
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00:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12416 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Master , DelUniqueDebarment (Debarments.pm) is not tested in Borrower_Debarments.t
00:11 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add new tests of DelUniqueDebarment
00:11 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: the subroutine 'ok' is replaced by the subroutine 'is'
00:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12462 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Fix some POD errors
00:11 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add the test of DelUniqueDebarment
00:11 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12462: Fix some POD errors
00:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_D7 build #17: FIXED in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D7/17/
00:11 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
00:11 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
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00:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12416 normal, P5 - low, ---, yohann.dufour, Pushed to Master , DelUniqueDebarment (Debarments.pm) is not tested in Borrower_Debarments.t
00:03 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add new tests of DelUniqueDebarment
00:03 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: the subroutine 'ok' is replaced by the subroutine 'is'
00:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12462 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Fix some POD errors
00:03 jenkins_koha * Yohann Dufour: Bug 12416: add the test of DelUniqueDebarment
00:03 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 12462: Fix some POD errors
00:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Master_U12 build #24: FIXED in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_U12/24/
00:03 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
00:03 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!