Time  Nick            Message
22:49 tcohen          markvandenborre: i fail to understand what the expected and actual behaviour are
22:25 markvandenborre hm, my git checkout of csvtomarc.pl might not have been complete enough...
22:15 huginn          markvandenborre: The current temperature in Baltic Container Terminal, RÄ«ga, Latvia is 9.9°C (1:06 AM EEST on June 21, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
22:15 markvandenborre @wunder riga, latvia
22:14 huginn          markvandenborre: Error: No such location could be found.
22:14 markvandenborre @wunder riga
22:11 markvandenborre running out of ideas a bit on where the problem could be...
22:10 markvandenborre the conversion tool doesn't complain at all, it just seems to refuse to read any source lines
22:10 markvandenborre I tried with both iso-8859-15 and utf8
22:10 markvandenborre it doesn't seem to read any records from the source csv for some reason
22:08 markvandenborre any hints what I might be doing wrong?
22:08 markvandenborre using the csvtomarc.pl tool
22:07 markvandenborre http://pastie.org/9309727
22:07 markvandenborre I've successfully run test migrations before, but for some reason, they refuse to work right now
22:07 markvandenborre hi all
21:49 magnuse         have fun #koha!
21:49 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (11:20 PM CEST on June 20, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
21:49 magnuse         @wunder boo
19:04 huginn          tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 20.0°C (3:00 PM ART on June 20, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
19:04 tcohen          @wunder cordoba, argentina
17:40 nengard         thanks for the help
17:40 nengard         you too!!
17:39 * oleonard      wishes #koha a good weekend
17:39 nengard         yeah i know
17:39 oleonard        Sorry nengard... All part of the game.
17:13 nengard         oleonard - not a fan of the word experiment ;) hehe
17:01 oleonard        Those images are scaling down to invisibility, so you need to experiment with overriding the default <img> style they're getting from the Bootstrap CSS
17:01 nengard         removed and still no flags on small small screens
17:00 nengard         okey dokey, will find those
16:59 oleonard        nengard: Not sure if it's causing visual problems, but when you add pixel dimensions to an image tag you should omit "px"
16:53 nengard         the problem now is that the flags go away on small mobile screens
16:53 nengard         or that: http://library-dev.aarome.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl
16:51 oleonard        That sounds like it could work
16:50 nengard         i'm thinking of removing the hr and making it a border bottom on the library name
16:49 nengard         oleonard <br> remove d for you to see
16:49 oleonard        Take out the <br>s and re-evaluate. Then adjust margin/padding where necessary.
16:48 nengard         so add a margin to the <hr> or to the flags?
16:48 oleonard        nengard: I suggest you take out the <br>s and use CSS to make the whitespace work the way you want it to. Mixing CSS margin/padding with <br>s doesn't make sense
16:47 nengard         that works too
16:47 nengard         got it
16:47 nengard         oh!
16:47 jeff            nengard: whitespace is significant in python, as opposed to meaningless. :-)
16:46 nengard         jeff never worked with python is it very clean?
16:46 nengard         working with a design done by someone else and trying to hack it to work with bootstrap
16:46 nengard         if you remove them then the <hr> moves to the right and floats with the flags
16:45 nengard         yes they're in both of them though
16:45 jeff            :-)
16:45 * jeff          hands nengard some Python
16:45 oleonard        nengard: There are a bunch of <br>s in the markup
16:44 * nengard       hates meaningless whitespace
16:44 nengard         well all of it ;) hehe but between the library name and the <hr>
16:43 oleonard        nengard: I see lots of whitespace differences between those pages. What in particular?
16:42 oleonard        nengard: It might be some kind of domain-matching problem? If the service is configured to expect certain referrers?
16:42 nengard         see the header here: http://aarome.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl and then here: http://library-dev.aarome.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl -- too much white space on the second
16:42 nengard         the other thing that bugs me - but i can live with is
16:41 nengard         so i won't fuss about it
16:41 nengard         well i checked on their site on ccsr and it didn't work then either actually
16:41 nengard         got it
16:41 oleonard        nengard: But since I don't know how that font service works I don't know why it might be going wrong
16:41 nengard         this time it's bad
16:41 wahanui         interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
16:41 nengard         interesting
16:40 oleonard        Firebug says the custom font isn't being found on the problematic page
16:40 oleonard        nengard: I think it's a problem with the font delivery service
16:39 wahanui         well, big problem is that I forgot where I had left off, although, I could try to see from a diff.
16:39 grharry         big problem
16:39 grharry         no
16:39 grharry         I can do that
16:39 grharry         ok
16:38 grharry         !!
16:38 jcamins         Right.
16:38 grharry         authority-koha-indexdefs.xml ???
16:38 grharry         for instance ...
16:37 grharry         hm
16:37 jcamins         You'd need to write a new Zebra configuration that doesn't just chuck everything into the same index.
16:36 grharry         what needs to be done ???
16:36 jcamins         Not with the existing Zebra configuration, no.
16:36 grharry         no trick around it ???
16:35 jcamins         Not with the existing Zebra configurations.
16:35 jcamins         Well, that's not entirely fair.
16:35 grharry         :(
16:34 jcamins         grharry: no.
16:34 grharry         I meant foo bar foo are 3 separate fields !!
16:34 grharry         sorry
16:33 grharry         is there a way to query " find @and  @attr 1=Heading @attr 4=1   @attr 6=3 foo bar .... so "foo bar foo" will not appear first on the results ?? when foo , bar, foo are 2 separate fields !
16:30 nengard         Okay why are the links below the search box styled here: http://library-dev.aarome.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl but not here: http://library-dev.aarome.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=book
16:30 nengard         oleonard++
16:30 oleonard        Sure
16:29 nengard         got time for css troubleshooting .... my least favorite thing on the planet?? :) hehe
16:29 oleonard        Yes
16:29 nengard_afk     oleonard around?
16:26 cait            bye all, have a nice weekend
15:43 nengard         enjoy
15:43 nengard         :)
15:43 KCB             alright, gotta go - nengard, thanks again for the pointers to those papers, I know what to read this weekend :)
15:35 nengard         well that's better than an error on my part :)
15:35 liw             nengard, the 521 build seems to have failed because jenkins failed to update its copy of the git repository; I suspect networking problems
15:34 jenkins_koha    Nicole C. Engard: update OPACBaseURL with tip about http
15:34 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Docs build #522: FIXED in 2 min 24 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/522/
15:34 wahanui         o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
15:34 jenkins_koha    Yippee, build fixed!
15:34 jenkins_koha    Starting build #522 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #519 1 day 0 hr ago)
15:27 nengard         it's not telling me why :(
15:27 nengard         why??? :(
15:26 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Docs build #521: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/521/
15:11 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Docs build #520: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/520/
15:01 reiveune        bye
14:50 jenkins_koha    Nicole C. Engard: update OPACBaseURL with tip about http
14:50 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #68: SUCCESS in 1 min 9 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/68/
14:50 jenkins_koha    Starting build #68 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:43 fridolin        see u
14:26 nengard         :)
14:26 oleonard        nengard++
14:24 drojf           KCB: sorry. i only investigated it a little when i had to choose a system (and chose koha :) )
14:24 nengard         aka 7 years ago
14:24 * nengard       was a cataloger in a past life
14:24 nengard         :)
14:24 KCB             thanks nengard, awesome!
14:23 KCB             drojf: no crime to be curious :) Actually, should you be knowledgeable about AllegroC, I could use some pointers into porting data from one of their old versions (v14 I think) into MySQL ;)
14:23 nengard         KCB: http://bcc.musiclibraryassoc.org/BCC-Historical/BCC2013/RDA_Best_Practices_for_Music_Cataloging.pdf and http://www.olacinc.org/test/conference/2000/scores.pdf and http://www.library.yale.edu/cataloging/music/musicat.htm might be helpful
14:19 KCB             So far I found the Chopin Early Editions , which was done using Greenstone , and I'm testdriving Koha for the moment since Koha seems to be easier to setup and use.
14:18 KCB             oleonard: I'm indeed trying to figure out whether someone somewhere has already done a similar job :)
14:18 drojf           KCB: ah, ok. (sorry for being so curious^^)
14:17 KCB             drojf: Belgium
14:16 oleonard        KCB: I would definitely reach out to any library you can find which is cataloging musical scores (including non-Koha ones) to learn from their catalogers.
14:15 drojf           KCB: are you from germany by any chance? (wondering because you use allegroC)
14:13 KCB             I feel like being tasked with transforming the collection from the stone age to the internet age in one step :p
14:13 KCB             We currently have a little custom-made database, still running in MS-DOS, which is called AllegroC. There, we use a string encoding for instrumentation. But we really need to move towards something webbased. Especially since with WinXP disappearing, MS-DOS support is also gone (WinXP is the last OS to run MS-DOS natively)
14:11 oleonard        I wonder if there is a practice of using subject headings for that...
14:10 KCB             but, for example, we need to be able to tag every book with the instrumentation, so people can search for works that are "for oboe and 2 violins" or something like that
14:09 KCB             ...so it'd really be setting up a working system from scratch. I'm still in the process of learning about MARC21 etc to see if all the necessary fields can be expressed in it
14:09 oleonard        KCB: In a way it's good to be starting from scratch since you can create a system that works well for you. Following others' example should be useful.
14:08 KCB             oleonard, our music score records now are mostly paper index cards...
14:07 KCB             thanks nengard, seems like they're doing stuff that can be useful for me
14:06 nengard         KCB here is a search for scores on goodspeed musicals: http://catalog.goodspeed.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=&idx=kw&q=&idx=kw&q=&do=Search&limit-yr=&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3ASCORE&limit=&limit=&sort_by=relevance
14:01 oleonard        KCB: Are music score records MARC records, or is your question about converting those records to a Koha-usable format?
13:57 nengard         but it's close :)
13:57 nengard         it's a theater library - not a music library
13:56 nengard         There is Goodspeed musicals that uses Koha
13:54 KCB             I'm asking because I've been tasked with getting a conservatory library digitized. I need features to import and query music score records in great detail.
13:48 KCB             Hi everyone! Quick question: does anyone know whether Koha is in use somewhere to power a music library?
13:47 vfernandes      95% done
13:46 vfernandes      ok ;) that gives me time to finish pt-PT translations
13:46 yohann          vfernandes : I think June 22, 2014
13:43 vfernandes      when koha 3.16.1 will be released?
13:43 vfernandes      hi ;)
12:26 magnuse         kia ora oleonard and nengard
12:22 nengard         morning oleonard
12:16 oleonard        Hi #koha
09:40 * cait          waves
09:39 magnuse         \o/
09:35 nlegrand        o/
09:33 drojf           hi magnuse :)
09:33 ashimema        Hi magnuse.
09:33 magnuse         hiya drojf nlegrand ashimema
09:30 nlegrand        hey #koha !
09:28 drojf           hi cait :)
09:28 cait            moin drojf
07:45 cait            :)
07:45 Joubu           cait: no, I am attaching the patches :)
07:44 cait            but i guess not so hard to fix?
07:43 cait            ah
07:40 Joubu           cait: no I get the problem too
07:36 cait            thx - not sure if the intranet problem with select/unselect was me (missing a patch) but can you please check if it works for you?
07:35 Joubu           I will update the patch modifying the opac prog theme
07:34 Joubu           cait: yep, I just understood that the problem in at the intranet
07:34 cait            there is also still a reference to a file in the prog theme, i was not sure how to best remove that from th epatch
07:33 cait            Joubu: yes - something about the javascript library
07:32 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11430 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Search history: Delete selected lines
07:32 Joubu           cait: Did you have conflict on applying bug 11430?
07:27 Joubu           cait: it's good to see you back for QA :)
07:25 cait            i started testing the rollover patch - a long awaited feature :)
07:24 cait            :)
07:20 Joubu           cait: i will test soon
07:19 cait            :)
07:18 cait            deleting single entries from the search history
07:18 Joubu           cait: hum, not seen it yet
07:17 Joubu           you're welcome :)
07:17 cait            Joubu: about the other patch for search history - i am not sure if I had messed up my branch there - hope the comments make sense
07:17 Joubu           cait: Hello
07:16 cait            thx Joubu
07:16 cait            hi #koha
07:09 fridolin        hie all
07:01 alex_a          bonjour
06:53 reiveune        hello
06:51 * magnuse       waves
06:40 dcook           Gotta love descriptions like that
06:40 dcook           "common special case"
05:23 dcook           Oh well. I'll just the prototype done then we'll see...
05:20 dcook           hey cait :)
05:20 cait            :)
05:20 cait            hi dcook
05:19 dcook           Hmm to take advantage of Perl's poor OO security or to make a new child object and override the constructor...
02:46 wahanui         exception is probably http://houston.pm.org/talks/2009talks/0907Talk/exception_handling_in_perl.html
02:46 dcook           exception?
02:46 dcook           exception is http://houston.pm.org/talks/2009talks/0907Talk/exception_handling_in_perl.html
02:46 dcook           exception?
02:40 Tyler           It worked! Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it.
02:34 Tyler           Now let's see if I can create patron categories since I am installed from the packages :)
02:34 mtj             awesome
02:33 Tyler           That line in the wiki is somewhat misleading, but I probably paid too much attention to it.
02:32 Tyler           That did it!
02:32 mtj             Tyler: yep, correct
02:31 mtj             "Add also Listen 8080 (or whatever other port was chosen in the Initial Configuration section) if IP-based installation for intranet access. "
02:31 mtj             aaah, it explains that further...
02:31 Tyler           I assume that when I run koha-create, it references the koha-sites.conf file to create the virtual sites in apache?
02:30 mtj             afaik, 8080 is not enabled by default
02:29 mtj             hmm, yeah, that could be false
02:28 Tyler           Which is my theory is correct, is false.
02:28 Tyler           I'm getting there! The wiki states "If you don't need DNS configuration and want to access Koha via IP only (often done for test installations), you can skip creating this file and you will get default values (OPAC on port 80 and Staff client on port 8080)."
02:28 mtj             sounds like you are pretty close, tho :)
02:27 Tyler           I was rushing and not reading carefully enough.
02:27 Tyler           I think my issue is that in the koha-sites.conf file, I did not change the default INTRAPORT to 8080; default was 80
02:26 mtj             ..its still pointing to the default config
02:26 Tyler           I just reverted my VM back to a clean Debian install and am trying again.
02:26 mtj             but your config for 8080 is not correct
02:26 mtj             Tyler: that error is to be expected on 80
02:22 Tyler           I disabled the default site, and now I get the same "It works!" page on port 8080, but on port 80, I get "Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 2054."
02:19 wizzyrea        please check the warning there, and make sure it doesn't apply to you.
02:18 wizzyrea        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Disable_Default_Site
02:10 Tyler           I followed these instructions and have wiped and restarted three times now: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze#Debian_packages_of_Koha
02:10 Tyler           I just installed Koha through the Debian packages and when I navigate to either port 80 or 8080 on the target server, I get the default Apache "It works!" page.
01:39 dcook           That's cool
01:39 dcook           Oooh I didn't know you could access elements of an array_ref with this syntax: $array_ref->[1]
00:02 dcook           Just realized that my name is often sandwiched between "Charlton" and "Cormack" in release notes. Way to make me look bad, guys :p
00:00 dcook           I'm guessing not as it's not in the coding guidelines