Time Nick Message 22:49 tcohen markvandenborre: i fail to understand what the expected and actual behaviour are 22:25 markvandenborre hm, my git checkout of csvtomarc.pl might not have been complete enough... 22:15 huginn markvandenborre: The current temperature in Baltic Container Terminal, RÄ«ga, Latvia is 9.9°C (1:06 AM EEST on June 21, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). 22:15 markvandenborre @wunder riga, latvia 22:14 huginn markvandenborre: Error: No such location could be found. 22:14 markvandenborre @wunder riga 22:11 markvandenborre running out of ideas a bit on where the problem could be... 22:10 markvandenborre the conversion tool doesn't complain at all, it just seems to refuse to read any source lines 22:10 markvandenborre I tried with both iso-8859-15 and utf8 22:10 markvandenborre it doesn't seem to read any records from the source csv for some reason 22:08 markvandenborre any hints what I might be doing wrong? 22:08 markvandenborre using the csvtomarc.pl tool 22:07 markvandenborre http://pastie.org/9309727 22:07 markvandenborre I've successfully run test migrations before, but for some reason, they refuse to work right now 22:07 markvandenborre hi all 21:49 magnuse have fun #koha! 21:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (11:20 PM CEST on June 20, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). 21:49 magnuse @wunder boo 19:04 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 20.0°C (3:00 PM ART on June 20, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). 19:04 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 17:40 nengard thanks for the help 17:40 nengard you too!! 17:39 * oleonard wishes #koha a good weekend 17:39 nengard yeah i know 17:39 oleonard Sorry nengard... All part of the game. 17:13 nengard oleonard - not a fan of the word experiment ;) hehe 17:01 oleonard Those images are scaling down to invisibility, so you need to experiment with overriding the default <img> style they're getting from the Bootstrap CSS 17:01 nengard removed and still no flags on small small screens 17:00 nengard okey dokey, will find those 16:59 oleonard nengard: Not sure if it's causing visual problems, but when you add pixel dimensions to an image tag you should omit "px" 16:53 nengard the problem now is that the flags go away on small mobile screens 16:53 nengard or that: http://library-dev.aarome.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl 16:51 oleonard That sounds like it could work 16:50 nengard i'm thinking of removing the hr and making it a border bottom on the library name 16:49 nengard oleonard <br> remove d for you to see 16:49 oleonard Take out the <br>s and re-evaluate. Then adjust margin/padding where necessary. 16:48 nengard so add a margin to the <hr> or to the flags? 16:48 oleonard nengard: I suggest you take out the <br>s and use CSS to make the whitespace work the way you want it to. Mixing CSS margin/padding with <br>s doesn't make sense 16:47 nengard that works too 16:47 nengard got it 16:47 nengard oh! 16:47 jeff nengard: whitespace is significant in python, as opposed to meaningless. :-) 16:46 nengard jeff never worked with python is it very clean? 16:46 nengard working with a design done by someone else and trying to hack it to work with bootstrap 16:46 nengard if you remove them then the <hr> moves to the right and floats with the flags 16:45 nengard yes they're in both of them though 16:45 jeff :-) 16:45 * jeff hands nengard some Python 16:45 oleonard nengard: There are a bunch of <br>s in the markup 16:44 * nengard hates meaningless whitespace 16:44 nengard well all of it ;) hehe but between the library name and the <hr> 16:43 oleonard nengard: I see lots of whitespace differences between those pages. What in particular? 16:42 oleonard nengard: It might be some kind of domain-matching problem? If the service is configured to expect certain referrers? 16:42 nengard see the header here: http://aarome.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl and then here: http://library-dev.aarome.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl -- too much white space on the second 16:42 nengard the other thing that bugs me - but i can live with is 16:41 nengard so i won't fuss about it 16:41 nengard well i checked on their site on ccsr and it didn't work then either actually 16:41 nengard got it 16:41 oleonard nengard: But since I don't know how that font service works I don't know why it might be going wrong 16:41 nengard this time it's bad 16:41 wahanui interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 16:41 nengard interesting 16:40 oleonard Firebug says the custom font isn't being found on the problematic page 16:40 oleonard nengard: I think it's a problem with the font delivery service 16:39 wahanui well, big problem is that I forgot where I had left off, although, I could try to see from a diff. 16:39 grharry big problem 16:39 grharry no 16:39 grharry I can do that 16:39 grharry ok 16:38 grharry !! 16:38 jcamins Right. 16:38 grharry authority-koha-indexdefs.xml ??? 16:38 grharry for instance ... 16:37 grharry hm 16:37 jcamins You'd need to write a new Zebra configuration that doesn't just chuck everything into the same index. 16:36 grharry what needs to be done ??? 16:36 jcamins Not with the existing Zebra configuration, no. 16:36 grharry no trick around it ??? 16:35 jcamins Not with the existing Zebra configurations. 16:35 jcamins Well, that's not entirely fair. 16:35 grharry :( 16:34 jcamins grharry: no. 16:34 grharry I meant foo bar foo are 3 separate fields !! 16:34 grharry sorry 16:33 grharry is there a way to query " find @and @attr 1=Heading @attr 4=1 @attr 6=3 foo bar .... so "foo bar foo" will not appear first on the results ?? when foo , bar, foo are 2 separate fields ! 16:30 nengard Okay why are the links below the search box styled here: http://library-dev.aarome.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl but not here: http://library-dev.aarome.org/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=book 16:30 nengard oleonard++ 16:30 oleonard Sure 16:29 nengard got time for css troubleshooting .... my least favorite thing on the planet?? :) hehe 16:29 oleonard Yes 16:29 nengard_afk oleonard around? 16:26 cait bye all, have a nice weekend 15:43 nengard enjoy 15:43 nengard :) 15:43 KCB alright, gotta go - nengard, thanks again for the pointers to those papers, I know what to read this weekend :) 15:35 nengard well that's better than an error on my part :) 15:35 liw nengard, the 521 build seems to have failed because jenkins failed to update its copy of the git repository; I suspect networking problems 15:34 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update OPACBaseURL with tip about http 15:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #522: FIXED in 2 min 24 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/522/ 15:34 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 15:34 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 15:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #522 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #519 1 day 0 hr ago) 15:27 nengard it's not telling me why :( 15:27 nengard why??? :( 15:26 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #521: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/521/ 15:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #520: FAILURE in 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/520/ 15:01 reiveune bye 14:50 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update OPACBaseURL with tip about http 14:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #68: SUCCESS in 1 min 9 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/68/ 14:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #68 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:43 fridolin see u 14:26 nengard :) 14:26 oleonard nengard++ 14:24 drojf KCB: sorry. i only investigated it a little when i had to choose a system (and chose koha :) ) 14:24 nengard aka 7 years ago 14:24 * nengard was a cataloger in a past life 14:24 nengard :) 14:24 KCB thanks nengard, awesome! 14:23 KCB drojf: no crime to be curious :) Actually, should you be knowledgeable about AllegroC, I could use some pointers into porting data from one of their old versions (v14 I think) into MySQL ;) 14:23 nengard KCB: http://bcc.musiclibraryassoc.org/BCC-Historical/BCC2013/RDA_Best_Practices_for_Music_Cataloging.pdf and http://www.olacinc.org/test/conference/2000/scores.pdf and http://www.library.yale.edu/cataloging/music/musicat.htm might be helpful 14:19 KCB So far I found the Chopin Early Editions , which was done using Greenstone , and I'm testdriving Koha for the moment since Koha seems to be easier to setup and use. 14:18 KCB oleonard: I'm indeed trying to figure out whether someone somewhere has already done a similar job :) 14:18 drojf KCB: ah, ok. (sorry for being so curious^^) 14:17 KCB drojf: Belgium 14:16 oleonard KCB: I would definitely reach out to any library you can find which is cataloging musical scores (including non-Koha ones) to learn from their catalogers. 14:15 drojf KCB: are you from germany by any chance? (wondering because you use allegroC) 14:13 KCB I feel like being tasked with transforming the collection from the stone age to the internet age in one step :p 14:13 KCB We currently have a little custom-made database, still running in MS-DOS, which is called AllegroC. There, we use a string encoding for instrumentation. But we really need to move towards something webbased. Especially since with WinXP disappearing, MS-DOS support is also gone (WinXP is the last OS to run MS-DOS natively) 14:11 oleonard I wonder if there is a practice of using subject headings for that... 14:10 KCB but, for example, we need to be able to tag every book with the instrumentation, so people can search for works that are "for oboe and 2 violins" or something like that 14:09 KCB ...so it'd really be setting up a working system from scratch. I'm still in the process of learning about MARC21 etc to see if all the necessary fields can be expressed in it 14:09 oleonard KCB: In a way it's good to be starting from scratch since you can create a system that works well for you. Following others' example should be useful. 14:08 KCB oleonard, our music score records now are mostly paper index cards... 14:07 KCB thanks nengard, seems like they're doing stuff that can be useful for me 14:06 nengard KCB here is a search for scores on goodspeed musicals: http://catalog.goodspeed.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=&idx=kw&q=&idx=kw&q=&do=Search&limit-yr=&limit=mc-itype%2Cphr%3ASCORE&limit=&limit=&sort_by=relevance 14:01 oleonard KCB: Are music score records MARC records, or is your question about converting those records to a Koha-usable format? 13:57 nengard but it's close :) 13:57 nengard it's a theater library - not a music library 13:56 nengard There is Goodspeed musicals that uses Koha 13:54 KCB I'm asking because I've been tasked with getting a conservatory library digitized. I need features to import and query music score records in great detail. 13:48 KCB Hi everyone! Quick question: does anyone know whether Koha is in use somewhere to power a music library? 13:47 vfernandes 95% done 13:46 vfernandes ok ;) that gives me time to finish pt-PT translations 13:46 yohann vfernandes : I think June 22, 2014 13:43 vfernandes when koha 3.16.1 will be released? 13:43 vfernandes hi ;) 12:26 magnuse kia ora oleonard and nengard 12:22 nengard morning oleonard 12:16 oleonard Hi #koha 09:40 * cait waves 09:39 magnuse \o/ 09:35 nlegrand o/ 09:33 drojf hi magnuse :) 09:33 ashimema Hi magnuse. 09:33 magnuse hiya drojf nlegrand ashimema 09:30 nlegrand hey #koha ! 09:28 drojf hi cait :) 09:28 cait moin drojf 07:45 cait :) 07:45 Joubu cait: no, I am attaching the patches :) 07:44 cait but i guess not so hard to fix? 07:43 cait ah 07:40 Joubu cait: no I get the problem too 07:36 cait thx - not sure if the intranet problem with select/unselect was me (missing a patch) but can you please check if it works for you? 07:35 Joubu I will update the patch modifying the opac prog theme 07:34 Joubu cait: yep, I just understood that the problem in at the intranet 07:34 cait there is also still a reference to a file in the prog theme, i was not sure how to best remove that from th epatch 07:33 cait Joubu: yes - something about the javascript library 07:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11430 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Search history: Delete selected lines 07:32 Joubu cait: Did you have conflict on applying bug 11430? 07:27 Joubu cait: it's good to see you back for QA :) 07:25 cait i started testing the rollover patch - a long awaited feature :) 07:24 cait :) 07:20 Joubu cait: i will test soon 07:19 cait :) 07:18 cait deleting single entries from the search history 07:18 Joubu cait: hum, not seen it yet 07:17 Joubu you're welcome :) 07:17 cait Joubu: about the other patch for search history - i am not sure if I had messed up my branch there - hope the comments make sense 07:17 Joubu cait: Hello 07:16 cait thx Joubu 07:16 cait hi #koha 07:09 fridolin hie all 07:01 alex_a bonjour 06:53 reiveune hello 06:51 * magnuse waves 06:40 dcook Gotta love descriptions like that 06:40 dcook "common special case" 05:23 dcook Oh well. I'll just the prototype done then we'll see... 05:20 dcook hey cait :) 05:20 cait :) 05:20 cait hi dcook 05:19 dcook Hmm to take advantage of Perl's poor OO security or to make a new child object and override the constructor... 02:46 wahanui exception is probably http://houston.pm.org/talks/2009talks/0907Talk/exception_handling_in_perl.html 02:46 dcook exception? 02:46 dcook exception is http://houston.pm.org/talks/2009talks/0907Talk/exception_handling_in_perl.html 02:46 dcook exception? 02:40 Tyler It worked! Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it. 02:34 Tyler Now let's see if I can create patron categories since I am installed from the packages :) 02:34 mtj awesome 02:33 Tyler That line in the wiki is somewhat misleading, but I probably paid too much attention to it. 02:32 Tyler That did it! 02:32 mtj Tyler: yep, correct 02:31 mtj "Add also Listen 8080 (or whatever other port was chosen in the Initial Configuration section) if IP-based installation for intranet access. " 02:31 mtj aaah, it explains that further... 02:31 Tyler I assume that when I run koha-create, it references the koha-sites.conf file to create the virtual sites in apache? 02:30 mtj afaik, 8080 is not enabled by default 02:29 mtj hmm, yeah, that could be false 02:28 Tyler Which is my theory is correct, is false. 02:28 Tyler I'm getting there! The wiki states "If you don't need DNS configuration and want to access Koha via IP only (often done for test installations), you can skip creating this file and you will get default values (OPAC on port 80 and Staff client on port 8080)." 02:28 mtj sounds like you are pretty close, tho :) 02:27 Tyler I was rushing and not reading carefully enough. 02:27 Tyler I think my issue is that in the koha-sites.conf file, I did not change the default INTRAPORT to 8080; default was 80 02:26 mtj ..its still pointing to the default config 02:26 Tyler I just reverted my VM back to a clean Debian install and am trying again. 02:26 mtj but your config for 8080 is not correct 02:26 mtj Tyler: that error is to be expected on 80 02:22 Tyler I disabled the default site, and now I get the same "It works!" page on port 8080, but on port 80, I get "Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/lib/perl5/DBI.pm line 2054." 02:19 wizzyrea please check the warning there, and make sure it doesn't apply to you. 02:18 wizzyrea http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Disable_Default_Site 02:10 Tyler I followed these instructions and have wiped and restarted three times now: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze#Debian_packages_of_Koha 02:10 Tyler I just installed Koha through the Debian packages and when I navigate to either port 80 or 8080 on the target server, I get the default Apache "It works!" page. 01:39 dcook That's cool 01:39 dcook Oooh I didn't know you could access elements of an array_ref with this syntax: $array_ref->[1] 00:02 dcook Just realized that my name is often sandwiched between "Charlton" and "Cormack" in release notes. Way to make me look bad, guys :p 00:00 dcook I'm guessing not as it's not in the coding guidelines