Time Nick Message 19:12 cait jacek++ 18:57 JesseM Hi cait 18:51 * cait waves 18:47 jburds_ Ok sounds good 18:47 JesseM very nice 18:47 jburds_ Finally got IRC setup 18:47 JesseM Most of the ByWater Team in always in te #koha channell 18:47 jburds_ Just didn't know if ByWater had a private channel 18:47 JesseM what can I help you with jburds_? 18:40 jburds_ Is there a bywatersolutions channel for customers? 16:39 talljoy no problem! 16:39 smrt talljoy oh ok sure that make sense, thanks. 16:36 talljoy smrt you would want to set the 'dontmerge' system preference to 'DO' so that updates to the authority record are reflected in the linked bibliographic records. 16:35 reiveune bye 16:34 huginn smrt: downloading the Perl source 16:34 smrt @talljoy so if $xCurricula needs to be changed in all the authorities we'd have to change each individual one? for example i have 150$aEducation$xCurricula and 150$aSchool$xCurricula id have to change both authorities? 16:21 talljoy for example if a bib has a 650$aEducation$xCurricula then the matching authority record would be 150$aEducation$xCurricula At least in the data I've worked with that is how it is 16:20 talljoy smrt i'm going to say most libraries do NOT separate out their authorities in that way 15:37 nengard almost all the same functionality but i never saw red ... 15:37 nengard i think i've been using the built in inspector instead 15:31 oleonard nengard: If the Firebug button is visible somewhere in Firefox's changing landscape of toolbars it should show a number in red if the page has a JS error 15:26 nengard or how to use them all :) 15:26 nengard yeah, still not sure of all the things firebug can do 15:20 oleonard I see nengard. It's good watch Firebug for JavaScript error notifications when you're playing around with opacuserjs 15:19 huginn 04Bug 12422: minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Javascript error triggered by opacbookbag being disabled while virtualshelves are enabled when using Bootstrap 15:19 nengard http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12422 15:19 nengard turned off 15:19 nengard oleonard the issue with that jquery was a bug with the cart turne doff 15:14 smrt hi everyone! my library is converting our ILS to Koha and we were just wonderig if anyone has their authorities subdivisions ($x, $v, etc.) separated from the main entries ($a) and in their own authority file? 13:53 cait hi yohann 13:42 nengard and grrrr 13:42 nengard yup ... hmmmm 13:40 oleonard Yup. Inside document.ready() of course 13:38 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "oleonard like this?" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/46 13:35 oleonard nengard_afk: Double-check it. It works for me. 13:25 nengard and ... nope that didn't do it :( 13:25 nengard :) 13:25 nengard well duh 13:18 oleonard The html() function looks for the contents of the <p>, so it's not finding a match 13:17 oleonard nengard: You have to take out the <p> 13:12 pastebot "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "jquery to change register link text" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/45 13:12 nengard thinking maybe quotes are screwing with me on this one 13:12 nengard ideas? 13:12 nengard changing "don't have an account" to "Don't have a library card" 13:11 nengard hey - oleonard jquery question 13:11 nengard oleonard++ 13:11 nengard Double HA 13:07 oleonard Or maybe "Browse shelf! And for the love of God if you don't know what that means don't click it you have no idea." 13:06 nengard HA 13:06 magnuse oleonard: i'd vote for that 13:06 kivilahtio Have a great weekend! 13:03 oleonard Or maybe, "Click here and a box will open up which displays books which might be near by on the same shelf as the one you're looking at, or maybe you're browsing videos, I don't know, maybe DVDs? Anyway..." 12:59 liw I had to think really hard about to reach that conclusion, in case that datapoint is helpful; perhaps changing the phrasing to something like "Browse books stored on same or nearby shelf" would be better 12:57 magnuse 10 points to liw :-) 12:57 jcamins Or might be. 12:57 jcamins Right. 12:56 liw speaking from utter ignorance: is the "browse shelf" feature something that shows you what other books are stored close by to the book you're currently viewing? 12:41 nengard or exactly ... can't remember :) 12:41 nengard jcamins that's usually close to what i change it to 12:33 oleonard Librarians at one particular branch seem to hate it with a passion 12:31 jcamins oleonard: we had to change the label to "view nearby books." 12:31 nengard not much though 12:31 nengard I've had to change the label once or twice 12:31 nengard yes 12:27 oleonard nengard: Do you ever hear that librarians and/or patrons are confused about what "browse shelf" in the OPAC is? 12:25 oleonard Or at least they hate having to explain it to the patrons. 12:25 oleonard Man, some of my librarians really hate the "browse shelf" feature... 11:40 gaetan_B bye ! 11:23 cait paul_p: i will mention it in my answer with a warning that it will need some work 11:22 paul_p cait (i'm back from lunch). No, I don't know. Not sure, and it would be good/cool to improve it ! 11:03 cait paul_p: do you know if someone is still using it? (sorry, was afk too) 10:31 paul_p cait = misc/cronjobs/build_browser_and_cloud.pl is probably the question to your answer. and it's oldies and not goodies... 10:29 paul_p cait = back. 10:19 cait all i can think of so far is hierarchically linked authorities, but it's not really the same 10:19 cait i will write the question, maybe you can answer later :) I remember there used to be a feature to browse through a classification - is that in somewhere still functional? In one of your libraries maybe? I have someone asking a general question about how to do browsing in classifications in Koha 10:18 paul_p cait hi. on phone 10:18 cait paul_p: are you around for a question maybe? 10:18 * cait waves 08:53 magnus_meeting yeah, lots of fun under digibib :-) 08:52 magnus_meeting :-) 08:49 * Viktor don't have all IRC shortcuts committed to long term memory 08:48 Viktor *me thinks armillaria and the whole digibib repo looks like fun :) 08:41 magnuse https://github.com/digibib/armillaria 08:40 Viktor Anything fun going on with the Oslo project that is public? 08:40 Viktor Thanks - sounds like a plan. 08:39 magnuse "trivial" and "minor" might be a good place to start 08:39 magnuse "new" bugs by severity: http://bit.ly/1lnuXJX 08:38 Viktor But it's great fun anyhow :) 08:37 Viktor I've been looking into 10067 and have a workflow that would solve it but don't get the jQuery parts for a proof of concept right. 08:36 Viktor True. To do a few small ones already reported makes it easier to find suitable bugs for practice. 08:36 magnuse bugzilla is your friend 08:34 Viktor The hard part now is to find something suitable small for the next patch. 08:34 Viktor Lol - not quite shure a scale to just 10 will suffice :) 08:31 magnuse Viktor: on scale from 1 to 10, how happy are you about getting your first patch into koha? 08:30 Viktor hej magnuse :) 08:30 magnuse tjänare Viktor 07:55 magnuse monring ashimema and gaetan_B 07:45 gaetan_B hello 07:45 cait morning ashimema 07:43 ashimema monring 07:35 cait kia ora magnuse! 07:35 magnuse kia ora cait! 07:34 cait good morning #koha 07:04 wahanui hello, Joubu 07:04 Joubu hello 07:04 dcook That $9 seems to keep it tethered there.. 07:04 dcook Interesting...can't seem to get rid of the 440 field even though it's obsolete... 06:42 wahanui hello, alex_a 06:42 alex_a bonjour 06:42 reiveune hello 06:29 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 06:29 magnuse @later tell JesseM not sure what you mean by "fast rebuild cronjob"? 06:24 magnuse :-) 06:13 dcook yay magnuse! 06:13 dcook hehe 06:11 * magnuse hands out bunches of round tuits to celebrate the 5 year anniversary of libriotech 06:10 * magnuse waves 06:02 dcook Damned control fields... 06:02 dcook Ah, good one 06:01 cait and authorised value maybe if it was a control field? 06:01 cait repeatableandmandatory i think so 05:59 dcook I'm sure they do at the subfield level but probably not at the tag level... 05:58 * dcook wonders if the "repeatable", "mandatory", or "authorised_value" columns even get used from "marc_tag_structure" 05:56 dcook Dang I wish there were a better way for framework management... 05:42 dcook (Of course, one day wahanui will say "Dead", and we'll rejoice more) 05:42 dcook Yay 05:42 wahanui it has been said that marc status is http://www.loc.gov/marc/status.html 05:42 dcook marc status? 04:50 dcook Everything you need should be in ccl.properties :) 04:49 mtj cheers , thats a good start 04:47 mtj Subject 1=21 04:46 dcook mtj: basically just look in ccl.properties :) 04:46 huginn dcook: I've exhausted my database of quotes 04:46 dcook @attr 4=1 04:46 dcook If it's a phrase, you might need to add a form attribute.. 04:45 dcook Where "subject" is replaced with what you want to search 04:45 dcook That last one is the complete thing you'd type into yaz-client :) 04:45 dcook f @attr 1=21 "subject" 04:45 huginn dcook: downloading the Perl source 04:45 dcook @attr 1=21 "subject" 04:45 dcook 1=21 04:44 dcook You're in luck :) 04:42 mtj my yaz/pqf foo is a tad rusty 04:42 mtj using yaz-client 04:42 mtj does anyone recall how to query zebra for an index... specifically the subject index 04:41 mtj random friday arvo Q here... 04:21 dcook Plus, they needed help and they're my friends. 04:21 dcook About time I paid up :p 04:21 dcook But I've only ever helped one person outside myself/my partner/my family move 04:20 dcook Perhaps more difficult with the sweater instance, but in terms of moving...a lot of people helped me move in the past 04:20 dcook Or satisfying guilt of some kind? 04:20 dcook Did I do it because it was the good thing to do? Because it made me feel good about myself? Both? Shades between? 04:20 * dcook had a similar altruism vs selfishness moment this morning when he returned a sweater to a lady who had dropped it without noticing 04:19 dcook I get to wake up early in the morning and help friends move 04:19 dcook Friday! 04:14 wizzyrea ah no worries :) fun diversion for a friday 04:12 dcook You're the best! 04:12 dcook Thanks again for helping me troubleshoot, wizzyrea :) 04:11 dcook But food! 04:11 * dcook actually had no idea 04:11 dcook If I were less honest, I would say that I knew that and I just wanted you to spell it out :p 04:11 wizzyrea which sounds awfully dirty 04:11 wizzyrea :) coronal mass ejections 04:11 dcook Chamber of Minerals and Energy? 04:10 wizzyrea we are swimming in CME at the moment. 04:10 dcook I'm starting to think so 04:10 wizzyrea sounds like a sunspot to me. 04:10 dcook Just one example 04:10 wizzyrea or only one example? 04:10 dcook I think I'm going to manually fix this one and then if it happens again...further investigation 04:10 wizzyrea you have several examples? 04:07 dcook Don't know why just this one 04:07 dcook Them, too 04:07 dcook Yep, me 04:07 dcook lol 04:07 wizzyrea <head explodes> 04:07 wizzyrea you 04:07 wizzyrea you know. 04:07 wizzyrea nvm. You. you. 04:07 wizzyrea you YOU, not you your librarian 04:07 dcook Me david? 04:06 dcook Yep 04:06 wizzyrea you david? 04:06 wizzyrea and if you create a new one, that's ok? 04:05 dcook The other subscriptions are working fine 04:05 dcook Ah, nah. 04:05 dcook I can't duplicate a sub without issues 04:05 dcook I don't know. Because I'm getting the same behaviour you describe now. 04:05 wizzyrea so it didn't run, so there's not a table/column for your data 04:05 wizzyrea for your specific set of circumstances 04:05 wizzyrea perhaps there was an updatedatabase that wasn't right 04:04 dcook Yeah, the upgrade-database.pl script has its issues... 04:04 dcook Mm 04:04 dcook How do you mean? 04:04 wizzyrea esp if it's an upgrade 04:04 wizzyrea you should double check that all of the tables are ok schema-wise 04:04 dcook So somehow this person managed to create a subscription without an issue of any kind 04:04 dcook Apparently all the subscriptions were made today :S 04:03 dcook hehe 04:02 wizzyrea :) 04:01 wahanui I know, that's why I said it. 04:01 wizzyrea true enough 04:01 wizzyrea true enough is <reply> I know, that's why I said it. 04:01 wizzyrea true enough. 04:01 wahanui well, second sign of madness is hairs on the palms of my hands 04:01 wizzyrea second sign of madness? 04:01 wahanui madness is manyfold - ask me for the second sign of madness. 04:01 wizzyrea madness. 04:01 wizzyrea which: 2026 is "only" 12 years away. 04:01 wizzyrea and it gave me an end date of 2026 04:00 wizzyrea I told it 1/year, starting 1 june, with subscription length of 12 issues 04:00 dcook Mine said you had to give a length or an end date 04:00 wizzyrea it did on mine 04:00 wizzyrea at least it should 04:00 wizzyrea based on what you give 04:00 wizzyrea it computes it 04:00 wizzyrea end date isn't required 04:00 dcook Although that might make more sense 04:00 dcook Length or end date is also required but not marked 03:59 dcook hehe 03:59 dcook Hmm, you have to have a numbering pattern :/ 03:59 wizzyrea cool story, numbering pattern is required but it isn't marked as such :P 03:59 wizzyrea or they didn't provide a numbering pattern? 03:58 * dcook is going to try something.. 03:58 wahanui it has been said that missing is usualy library only, an item that's not out 03:58 dcook Or missing? 03:58 wizzyrea maybe the prediction pattern is nonsensical? 03:57 dcook Hmm I swear they made them all today though.. 03:54 * dcook is tempted to check some of the other upgrades.. 03:54 dcook Thanks for looking at that, wizzyrea :) 03:52 * dcook recalls hearing about some serials and acquisitions issues moving from 3.8.0 to 3.14.5 03:52 dcook Maybe it didn't always create an expected 03:52 dcook Mmm, it was a migration 03:51 dcook Makes me wonder how this scenario was even made.. 03:51 dcook I see what you're saying now 03:51 wahanui interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad 03:51 dcook Interesting.. 03:50 wizzyrea and sets it to expected 03:50 dcook I'll try making one from scratch and see what happens 03:50 wizzyrea it autocreates the next one 03:50 wizzyrea in fact, if I do delete it 03:49 wizzyrea it still doesn't explode 03:49 wizzyrea but even if I delete it 03:49 dcook O_o 03:49 wizzyrea you shouldn't ever have 0 received serials if that's the case- it's always going to create one 03:49 wizzyrea let me delete the one it created 03:49 wizzyrea because creating one from scratch, it auto generated an expected serial 03:48 dcook First number? 03:48 wizzyrea they didn't provide a first number 03:48 wizzyrea if when they created this serial 03:48 wizzyrea I wonder 03:48 dcook So if you have generated one that is expected, you should be ok 03:48 dcook It's no issues at all 03:48 dcook My bad about received issues 03:48 dcook Definitely exploding on 3.14.05 without customizations 03:47 dcook ? 03:47 wizzyrea 1s 03:47 dcook Nothing at all in it attached to that subscription? 03:47 dcook Double check your serials table 03:46 wizzyrea this definitely isn't exploding 03:46 dcook Agreed 03:46 wizzyrea it seems like it would be pretty common to have a bib -> sub -> no received items 03:46 dcook Hmm 03:46 wizzyrea yea, even on current master, it doesn't explode 03:45 dcook At least for the MARC view page 03:45 dcook Perhaps it is local.. 03:45 dcook Ah.. 03:44 * dcook wonders if it's a local thing... 03:44 dcook I think it was pushed for 3.14.00 03:44 dcook I'm on 3.14.05 and it does 03:44 dcook O_o 03:44 wizzyrea 3.14.04 03:44 wizzyrea doesn't explode 03:44 dcook Link Subscription X to Bib Y, make sure that Subscription X has no issues at all, and then visit the marc detail on the staff client. 03:43 wizzyrea well I can't make it explode 03:40 wizzyrea so how do you set up your serial to test for this explodeyness 03:39 * dcook shuts up for a bit :p 03:39 dcook *boom* 03:39 dcook serials/serials-collection.pl 03:39 dcook serials/serials-edit.pl 03:39 dcook serials/serial-issues.pl 03:39 dcook opac/opac-serial-issues.pl 03:39 dcook catalogue/MARCdetail.pl 03:39 dcook catalogue/ISBDdetail.pl 03:39 * dcook suspects that the test might have been changed later so that it didn't break the test in 3.14.. 03:39 dcook I think the patch that made the problem was reverted in 3.12 because it broke a test 03:38 wizzyrea almost nobody. 03:38 wizzyrea nobody looks at the MARC view when they do patches. 03:37 wizzyrea hm, doesn't actually surprise me that it explodes there 03:37 * dcook is working on a fix 03:37 dcook That particular view might be fixed by now but there are probably other places.. 03:37 dcook *explosion* 03:37 dcook Yeah, try to look at the MARC view of that in the intranet ;) 03:36 dcook serial being the table for issues :S 03:36 wizzyrea you could often have a bib, with a sub, and no received serials 03:36 dcook Nope, a subscription without any received issues. 03:36 wizzyrea otherwise I suppose I'm not understanding your bug. 03:36 wizzyrea do you mean a serial with no sub? 03:29 dcook I suppose you'll probably almost always have serials, but maybe not when initially setting up your serials... 03:29 dcook If a bib is attached to a sub with no serials...*explosion* 03:17 dcook Whoever re-wrote C4::Serials::abouttoexpire...dudes... 03:17 dcook Aha! 02:59 dcook Serials is scary :( 02:57 dcook Whiny is conveyed extra well on the internet ;) 02:56 wizzyrea no, it came across pretty well actually 02:54 dcook Hmm, sarcasm doesn't get conveyed well over the internet.. 02:53 dcook I love how there is an "in_array" sub in C4::Serials 02:34 wizzyrea :) yay! 02:23 jrshaw It worked!!!! kudos. thanks, have a great evening,. etc. 02:20 jrshaw thnaks. trying now... 02:20 wizzyrea nope 02:19 jrshaw do I have to be in any particular directory when executing the command? (like /etc/koha) 02:17 wizzyrea jrshaw ^ 02:17 wizzyrea sudo apache2ctl restart 02:17 wizzyrea then restart apache 02:17 wizzyrea probably 02:17 wizzyrea sudo a2ensite library.conf 02:16 wizzyrea it's easy to fix 02:16 wizzyrea you're probably right 01:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11404 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , add out-of-the-box support for Apache 2.4 01:51 jrshaw Let me know if I am in the wrong place for this. I ran an update going from 3.14.7 to 3.16.0 and Apache broke. I'm new to linux so I am not sure where to be looking. The old config file is where it should be but the new Apache does not seem to be looking for it any more. I think this is related to bug 11404