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00:48 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha tcohen eythian magnuse.
00:52 tcohen       dcook: around?
00:55 dcook        Sort of!
00:55 dcook        sup, tcohen?
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02:38 tcohen       how many subscribers do we have in koha@lists?
02:40 rangi        on the main list?
02:40 tcohen       eah
02:40 rangi        2003
02:41 tcohen       .= y.$_
02:41 tcohen       thanks
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04:29 mtj_         hey #koha, could someone give me an SQL slap here...
04:29 mtj_         so, this works as expected
04:30 mtj_         select title from biblio where title like '%the%';
04:30 mtj_         but this doesnt
04:30 mtj_         select title as ttt  from biblio where ttt  like '%the%';
04:30 mtj_         ERROR 1054 (42S22): Unknown column 'ttt' in 'where clause'
04:31 mtj_         how do i query my newly defined 'ttt' column, correctly?
04:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #547 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #527 1 day 4 hr ago)
04:32 mtj_         aaah, where vs having ...
04:32 mtj_         https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2905292/where-vs-having
04:34 mtj_         well, i learn something new every day :)
04:47 paxed        is there a script to change borrower's password from the command line?
04:48 eythian      afaik, no
04:48 eythian      it'd be super-easy to write though
05:03 paxed        wtf? pay fines -> pay amount doesn't seem to save the note anywhere?
05:19 eythian      hi cait
05:19 cait         hi eythian :)
05:36 paxed        bug 12314
05:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12314 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , "Pay an amount toward all fines" does not save the note
05:38 paxed        looks like selected_accts is ""
05:48 paxed        ...the logic in pay.pl/paycollect.pl is screwy.
05:49 cait         probably, it's good to see the bugs filed
05:49 paxed        it's shitty i find it now, because we need to be in production on monday.
05:50 paxed        (i guess technically better i find it now than on monday, but still)
05:50 dcook        ^
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06:11 paxed        and that spaghetti code. i'm just happy happy happy.
06:11 magnuse      paxed, eythian: there's koha-reset-passwd?
06:12 eythian      I totally forgot about that
06:12 eythian      Did I write it?
06:12 dcook        Is koha-reset-passwd for the db user or borrowers though?
06:12 * dcook      says never using packages himself
06:12 eythian      borrowers
06:12 wahanui      borrowers is InnoDB in oleonard's test system, FWIW
06:13 eythian      ah no, larsw did many moons ago
06:13 paxed        i don't use packages either.
06:13 dcook        I probably would if I could, but we have a bit of a different set up *shrug*
06:14 dcook        It's not so bad once a person figures it all out...
06:14 magnuse      packages++
06:14 dcook        I'm tempted to try out building RPMs at some point, but...need to find the time
06:15 dcook        Not sure I want to be drafted into RPM package manager either :p
06:15 magnuse      oops, i think you just volunteered for that ;-)
06:17 eythian      sounds like it. Good luck. You'll need it.
06:18 magnuse      ...he said, wearily
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06:27 eythian      oh, I can't finish off my network design until I get my network quota increased.
06:27 eythian      Guess that'll have to wait for tomorrow.
06:28 dcook        Well, I'd have to learn how to build RPMs first :p
06:28 dcook        Seems a bit nasty actually...
06:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #1806 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1796 1 day 6 hr ago)
06:28 dcook        It seems that you have to make specific config for OpenSuse vs Fedora vs...
06:28 * dcook      hasn't read the docs in weeks though
06:29 eythian      yeah, I've just been lucky that I can use the same package configs for Ubuntu and Debian.
06:29 eythian      it's quite possible there'll be a change making them incompatible.
06:31 dcook        Ugh, that would suck
06:32 eythian      yep
06:32 dcook        Do you use Ubuntu or Debian yourself, eythian?
06:32 eythian      the recent issue with apache 2.4 was sort of like that, however it was work-aroundable.
06:32 eythian      mostly debian, but some ubuntu.
06:32 eythian      the cloud system I'm building will probably be ubuntu 14.04
06:32 dcook        Mmm, same. It seems like there's an even share that are the other way around
06:33 dcook        Well, other than that last line. Not building a cloud system me :p
06:33 eythian      we have an internal system that's similar to Amazon EC2, and eventually will move stuff to that.
06:34 eythian      I'm hoping to build it all so it's centrally managed with puppet, reducing the need to hit specific servers for things.
06:34 dcook        I keep meaning to learn more about EC2.
06:34 dcook        Mmm, very n ice
06:34 dcook        nice*
06:34 eythian      also with a load balancer so if things get busy we can fire up a new server and it'll take some load.
06:34 dcook        Puppet and Chef are both on the list..
06:34 dcook        Apparently Chef integrates a million times easier with Amazon if a person goes that route
06:35 dcook        You folks must have quite a bit of computing power.
06:35 eythian      we have a lot of puppet expertise around here, and I used to know it quite well myself.
06:36 eythian      I imagine we do, I actually have no idea :)
06:36 dcook        hehe
06:36 dcook        It must be interesting to be surrounded by other knowledgeable folk!
06:37 dcook        We're a rather small shop, so I suppose we're a bit limited
06:37 eythian      it's quite useful. I plan to drag someone in to help me set up the load balancer, and someone else to help with puppet. I could do both myself, but it's best to do them in a standard way.
06:37 eythian      it'll be nice having a set of puppet modules to talk to Koha though
06:38 dcook        That's always the predicament, eh? At least I find...I often want to learn how to do things myself, but it would be best to have them set up according to best practices or at least a standard
06:38 dcook        I keep thinking that halcyonCorsair did something with Koha and Puppet or Chef..
06:38 dcook        Ah, Chef
06:38 dcook        https://github.com/halcyonCorsair/chef-koha
06:40 eythian      I don't think that'll work at all for what I want :) i.e. integrating with a multi-tenanted system with external zebra and mysql servers.
06:40 eythian      basically a standard three-tier system (load balancing/proxies, koha servers, db and search servers)
06:41 magnuse      OPL are doing things with salt
06:41 eythian      salt?
06:42 magnuse      https://github.com/digibib/saltdeploy/tree/master/koha
06:42 dcook        Yeah, we have proxies, Koha server, and db servers. I wonder if we'd gain anything by putting Zebra on another server. Load balancing would be nice..
06:42 magnuse      saltstack?
06:42 magnuse      http://www.saltstack.com/
06:43 eythian      dcook: it's mostly to allow multiple Koha servers serving the same sites, so can't have any local data.
06:43 dcook        Would you need to have Zebra on another machien or just your Zebra dbs for that though?
06:44 eythian      both
06:44 dcook        Yeah, I guess so, eh
06:44 dcook        Hmm. Would really really like to play around..
06:44 dcook        Not really sure how to without having a machine devoted to it though
06:44 eythian      I imagine that having multiple processes accessing the same DBs would be bad, especially when the indexes were updated but something was still in cacne.
06:45 eythian      well, in our case, we'll have a machine devoted to it :)
06:45 dcook        hehe, exactly :p
06:45 dcook        I'm half tempted to get another box for home, but wonder what my wife would say..
06:45 dcook        Ok, I know what she would say and it wouldn't be "Yay! I'm glad you got another one!"
06:45 eythian      heh
06:45 eythian      just rent a VM somewhere :)
06:46 dcook        I've thought about that but then I'd be trying to run a VM on a VM, yeah?
06:46 dcook        I suppose not necessarily..
06:46 dcook        Not sure what I need as a baseline, you know?
06:46 dcook        eythian: As for the multiple processes, aren't you going to need them synced in some way anyway?
06:47 dcook        yo reiveune
06:47 * dcook      waves to sophie_m as well
06:47 eythian      no, they'll access the zebra server via tcp, it'll manage the syncing
06:47 eythian      no state kept locally
06:47 reiveune     hello
06:48 * eythian    &
06:49 magnuse      eythian: i suppose elasticsearch will be good for that kind of setup?
06:49 eythian      it will, yes
06:49 * dcook      is pondering
06:49 dcook        But you'd only have one Zebra server?
06:50 eythian      yeah
06:50 dcook        So how does the ES cluster work? I imagine that you have a few different servers with replicated DBs?
06:50 eythian      ES does its own replication
06:50 dcook        Yeah, that's what I mean
06:51 eythian      then yes, you have a handful of servers and talk to any of them
06:51 dcook        :D
06:51 * eythian    really & now
06:51 eythian      later
06:51 dcook        night
06:51 * dcook      also waves to magnuse who crept in!
06:51 * dcook      has 9 minutes to get an update through..
06:54 alex_a       bonjour
06:55 sophie_m     hello dcook
06:55 sophie_m     hi #koha
07:09 * magnuse    forgot to wave...
07:09 * magnuse    waves
07:13 paxed        $row->{'even'} = 1 if $num % 2 == 0;
07:13 paxed        $row->{'odd'}  = 1 if $num % 2 == 1;
07:13 paxed        uh, yeah ...
07:16 fridolin     hie all
07:17 paxed        where to?
07:23 Joubu        hello #koha
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07:28 cait         hi #koha :)
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07:38 magnuse      kia ora cait fridolin Viktor
07:39 Viktor       kia ora magnuse
07:39 fridolin     hie magnuse
07:39 Viktor       Greeting all!
07:39 cait         hi all :)
07:42 Viktor       Anyone know why the Gitify script creates .bkp files it complains it can't find and dies? Or why I might have messed it up :)
07:43 Viktor       On the other hand I managed to get a working install even if not citified som yay :)
07:43 dcook        I'm just about to leave for the day, but I don't think that Gitify creates .bkp files?
07:44 dcook        Ah, I'm wrong
07:44 dcook        Nevermind!
07:44 cait         Viktor: i don't use gitify so far - i think there are differnet ways to do it
07:44 Viktor       Still thanks dcook
07:45 Viktor       ok cait - I used Debian but thought that would be ok since no version of Ubuntu was specified and it's a Debian derivate.
07:46 Viktor       But always a hassle to do stuff before you learn more about what you are actually doing :)
07:46 cait         debian should be ok :)
07:47 magnuse      yeah, i think debian should be ok
07:47 Viktor       Good cait - then I might not have to do the whole process over again (even if it?s dead simple compared to olden days)
07:47 magnuse      i have used it on my servers running debian
07:47 Viktor       good news magnuse
07:47 magnuse      never had a complaint about .bkp files, though
07:48 Viktor       I've tried locating exactly where in the script it dies but isn't quite shure.
07:49 Viktor       Might have to make a new machine and give it a fresh install.
07:49 Viktor       I did have some weird complaints that directories wasn't directories that solved when logging out and running commands again.
07:50 magnuse      "every file modified will be backed up first by appending a '.bkp' to the file name"
07:50 magnuse      that does sound weird, Viktor
07:50 Viktor       Yes I'm a bit suspicious about that.
07:51 Viktor       I've decided to be very happy about having my own install. But I'd like to get it working with git too eventually :)
07:52 Viktor       Thanks for the help guys! I'm heading for some coffee break comfort now :)
07:53 magnuse      enjoy!
08:05 paxed        oh, lovely.
08:05 paxed        barcode max length is 20 chars.
08:06 paxed        we've got some old barcode swith 21 chars.
08:06 paxed        barcodes*
08:07 cait         ah that's not so good yes
08:07 cait         if it's not a huge amount, maybe easiest to rebarcode those
08:07 rangi        just alter the table and change the column, it wont hurt anything
08:08 cait         sounds like you've done that before heh
08:08 paxed        only 30k ...
08:08 rangi        thats why you change the column not rebarcode
08:09 cait         paxed: some old barcodes didn't sounds like 30k at first :)
08:09 paxed        cait: not in active stacks, but still in the system.
08:10 cait         yeah, but you need them to be in there with the correct barcode - so I think changing the columns oudns like the best
08:10 cait         remember to also change deleted_items
08:19 Joubu        Be careful with advanced_notices.pl in 3.16, it is buggy. See bug 12315 for a fix.
08:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12315 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , MTT FIX: Advanced notices are duplicated and not sent to the right patron
08:20 rangi        Joubu: you might want to leave gmcharlt a later, he might want to cut a 3.16.1 early
08:22 cait         thx for taking a look Joubu and taking care of it
08:22 Joubu        @later tell gmcharlt bug found in advanced_notices.pl. Please have a look at bug 12315. Set the severity to critical.
08:22 huginn       Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:22 cait         Joubu++
08:23 Joubu        silly error, big side effects :-/
08:23 cait         we all missed it, just have to deal with it fast now
08:37 petter       hello #koha
08:38 edda         hello
08:38 wahanui      hello, edda
08:39 cait         hi petter, hi edda
08:39 edda         may you help help me please
08:40 edda         i am begginer in koha
08:40 edda         I am try to download it
08:40 cait         where are you trying to download it from?
08:41 edda         I am using
08:43 magnuse      hiya petter
08:43 petter       hei magnus, hi cait!
08:44 edda         "git"
08:44 edda         program
08:44 edda         do you know it?
08:44 wahanui      it is highly recommended that you implement a rollback strategy for any virtual machines that you download. This could be as simple as holding onto the original archive that you downloaded, or you could take advantage of my virtualization platform’s snapshotting capability so that you can start over with a fresh VM at any time and not have to worry about the guest operating system running out of trial time.
08:45 magnuse      ooh rangi: got any hints for mocking dbic in koha? i've been trying to figure it out, without any success
08:45 cait         edda: yes, just trying to make sure you got the right repository :)
08:45 cait         are you following a specific installation manual?
08:45 edda         yes
08:45 cait         git is also mostly needed when you want to do development, there are packages for debian that can make your life eaiser installing it
08:45 wahanui      okay, cait.
08:45 cait         packages?
08:45 wahanui      packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
08:46 edda         I am using ubuntu
08:47 cait         i think the packages might work there too
08:47 edda         its ok?
08:47 cait         should be :)
08:47 magnuse      yes, the packages should worn on ubuntu
08:49 rangi        magnuse: https://metacpan.org/pod/Test::DBIx::Class
08:49 rangi        you could use this
08:49 rangi        and deploy to sqlite
08:49 edda         first i install 'git'
08:49 edda         sudo apt-get install git
08:49 cait         edda: can you share the url to the installation notes you use?
08:50 edda         ok
08:50 edda         on second please
08:50 rangi        magnuse: or mock koha::database
08:51 magnuse      Test::DBIx::Class
08:51 magnuse      ...looks interesting
08:52 magnuse      what would you use to mock koha::database?
08:53 magnuse      Test::MockModule?
08:53 wahanui      hmmm... Test::MockModule is needed.
08:53 rangi        yep
08:53 edda         http://www.codeykolasinski.com/koha.pdf
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08:54 rangi        or Test::Mock::Class
08:54 edda         do you get it?
08:55 cait         i can see the link
08:55 cait         but it's not an installation manual i know
08:57 cait         edda: I'd recommend taking a look at newer installation manuals
08:57 cait         edda: whta you have there seems not quite up to date
08:58 cait         and it makes things harder
08:59 magnuse      [off] it also makes things harder when you loos your connection every 5 minutes...
08:59 magnuse      rangi: thanks, i'll have a look at those
09:00 cait         [off] the document is really not good :( if somoene sees her again... we shoudl try to make her NOT use that
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09:01 cait         welcome back edda
09:01 cait         i have taken a look at the document you shared and i would strongly recommend taking a look at packages installation
09:02 cait         using a different installation tutorial
09:05 edra         hello
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10:17 gaetan_B     hello
10:17 wahanui      salut, gaetan_B
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10:31 tabaku       hello
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10:33 tabaku       hi
10:33 wahanui      what's up, tabaku
10:33 tabaku       I am try to install koha
10:33 tabaku       using
10:33 tabaku       this tutorial
10:33 tabaku       www.codeykolasinski.com/koha.pdf
10:34 tabaku       I have install 'git'
10:34 petter       don't use that tutorial
10:34 tabaku       why?
10:34 petter       its old and out of date
10:34 petter       install by debian package
10:34 petter       much easier
10:35 petter       less error-prone
10:35 petter       http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
10:35 tabaku       I have install ubuntu
10:35 petter       great
10:35 petter       followe the instructions on the link i posted
10:36 tabaku       is this code avaible for ubuntu
10:39 petter       yes
10:55 tabaku       hellooooooooooo
10:56 petter       hi again
10:57 tabaku       hi again and again
10:57 tabaku       I vave problem I dissconnect very often
10:59 tabaku       petter are you there?
10:59 petter       yes
11:00 tabaku       as I was saying
11:01 tabaku       i am using this tutorial to install koha
11:01 petter       which tutorial?
11:01 tabaku       You told me this is an old tutorial
11:01 cait         please don't use this tutorial, use the link petter gave you
11:01 tabaku       www.codeykolasinski.com/koha.pdf
11:01 tabaku       ok
11:02 tabaku       till now
11:02 tabaku       I have follow some steps from the tutorial
11:03 tabaku       I have create the database
11:03 tabaku       and have compleate mysql setup
11:04 tabaku       now I am follow the link that you send me
11:04 tabaku       Now I am Download and install the latest Koha release
11:05 tabaku       using this code: sudo apt-get install koha-common
11:14 tabaku       hiiiii
11:16 tabaku       petter are you here
11:16 tabaku       ?
11:22 tabaku       hey
11:34 cait         tabaku: maybe try solving your connection problems first
11:34 cait         it's quite hard to talk when you get disconnected so often
11:34 tabaku       I know
11:35 tabaku       but
11:35 tabaku       let try
11:35 tabaku       again
11:36 WaylonR      greetings Koha! okay, koha 3.0.0pre2 ... good god... anyway, how to get more than one url associated with a biblio, into koha, somewhere?
11:47 cait         WaylonR: 856 is repeatable
11:47 wahanui      i already had it that way, cait.
11:47 cait         but i am not sure what you want to do
11:47 WaylonR      cait, so, i repeat the 856 field, once per url? instead of repeating 856u inside one 856 field?
11:50 cait         correct
11:50 WaylonR      that will put what into the biblioitems.url mapping?
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11:54 cait         i thin it separates with | but you don't really need to care about that
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12:06 sivi         hello everyone
12:08 sivi         can anyone help me
12:09 WaylonR      ask your question.
12:09 WaylonR      ....
12:09 * WaylonR    sighs.
12:15 oleonard     Hi #koha
12:19 gmcharlt     @quote random
12:19 huginn       gmcharlt: Quote #8: "< wizzyrea> in my experience the transition to koha is much harder for libraries that are already automated" (added by pianohacker at 05:57 PM, June 19, 2009)
12:54 fridolin     nice work on Bug 11078
12:54 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Pushed to Stable , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds
12:54 fridolin     We may revamp koha-index-daemon-ctl.sh with rebuild_zebra.pl ?
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13:21 Viktor       First install and trying to modify the Perl scripts but see no change. Do I need to "apply" the changes to see them besides saving them in my editor?
13:21 rambutan     @wunder 64507
13:21 huginn       rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 19.7°C (8:21 AM CDT on May 27, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
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13:30 Joubu        thanks bgkriegel for your signoff on bug 12315!
13:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12315 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , MTT FIX: Advanced notices are duplicated and not sent to the right patron
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13:33 magnuse      Viktor: if you have a "proper" dev install you should see the changes right away
13:33 magnuse      s/proper/properly setup/
13:34 Viktor       magnuse Thanks. I'm trying to mess up the one installed following the gitify guide (but where the gitify script itself failed). Placed right in my home folder.
13:46 magnuse      if the gitified script failed, apache might be taking things from the regular locations for a package install, not from your git repo
13:46 magnuse      which file are you trying to change?
14:17 Viktor       magnuse Ah that might be it of course. The directory in home comes from cloning for git use.
14:17 Viktor       And sorry for the delay magnuse got stuck practicing git on my own repos.
14:18 Viktor       Where do the package installed files live?
14:18 Viktor       I'd be happy to break those in the meantime while I'm trying to gitify my install :)
14:21 Viktor       /etc/koha contains interesting things but not the Perl scripts (as far as I can tell)
14:52 magnuse      Viktor: look in /usr/share/koha
14:52 * magnuse    wanders off
14:53 Viktor       Thanks magnuse Happy wandering :)
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15:05 reiveune     bye
15:30 fridolin     see u
15:34 bag          morning
15:34 wahanui      it has been said that morning is a state of cat
15:36 rambutan     morning bag
15:37 cait         morning
15:41 cait         Joubu++
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15:47 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9823: Refactor return from GetReservesFromBiblionumber
15:47 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9823: QA follow-up for GetReservesFromBiblionumber calls
15:47 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9823: (follow-up) improve POD for C4::Reserves::GetReservesFromBiblionumber
15:47 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11829: fix JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template variables are undefined
15:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Code optimization: Change prototype of GetReservesFromBiblionumber
15:47 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 11798: fix problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table
15:47 jenkins_koha * Doug Kingston: Bug 11078: Add locking to rebuild_zebra
15:47 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11078: QA Follow-up for missing file permissions on lockfile
15:47 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11078: (follow-up) tidy code
15:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11829 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template variables are undefined
15:47 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 7234: koha-common Debian package now includes koha-sites.conf
15:47 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11866: do not require special permissions to view course reserves in staff interface
15:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11798 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Stable , Problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table
15:48 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11866: (follow-up) ensure that empty toolbar is not displayed
15:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11866: (follow-up) repair security issue introduced by main patch
15:48 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Pushed to Stable , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds
15:48 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7234 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-common Debian package should include koha-sites.conf
15:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11328 - Show local cover images in staff client search results
15:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11794 - restore functioning of opacSerialDefaultTab
15:48 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11866 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Staff side course reserves too restrictive
15:48 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11328 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Show local cover images in staff client search results
15:48 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11794 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , opacSerialDefaultTab  being ignored
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15:55 magnuse      bag: HI
15:59 magnuse      there is no way (in the web gui) to undelete a record, right? (that is, move it from deletedbiblio til biblio)
16:00 oleonard     Only in Koha 1.0 if I remember correctly :|
16:00 magnuse      this comment from rangi seems to say the same thing: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10047#c7
16:00 huginn       04Bug 10047: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cataloguing search maybe useless?
16:01 magnuse      ah, the good old days...
16:01 magnuse      shouldn't be too hard to do, though?
16:01 * oleonard   cheers magnuse for volunteering
16:02 magnuse      lulz...
16:07 bag          morning magnuse
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16:34 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add information about REST API BibLibre's koha-restful module
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17:17 magnuse      fridolin++
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18:06 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add information about REST API BibLibre's koha-restful module
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18:11 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add information about REST API BibLibre's koha-restful module
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19:16 cait         everyone is leaving? :)
19:22 * oleonard   is still here... for a while...
19:25 rambutan     ihere
19:27 cait         :) hi oleonard :)
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20:09 bgkriegel    cait++
20:10 cait         hm?
20:10 pianohacker  hi cait :)
20:11 bgkriegel    your registration :)
20:11 bgkriegel    And hi :)
20:12 cait         oh :)
20:18 rangi        bgkriegel: got mine too?
20:18 cait         heya rangi
20:19 bgkriegel    Yeap rangi, hi :)
20:20 rangi        yay :)
20:21 cait         bgkriegel: can you tell us how many by now?
20:23 bgkriegel    I'm asking tcohen (but can't find him)
20:23 cait         ah no hurry
20:24 cait         just curious :)
20:28 jcamins      bgkriegel: so do you tango? tcohen said that there is, indeed, a lot of tangoing in Cordoba. :)
20:28 * jcamins    is taking Argentine tango lessons next month.
20:29 jcamins      I had one class in Argentine tango this past month. It was not one of the dances that I picked up immediately.
20:30 rangi        :)
20:30 rangi        maybe thats the cultural day
20:30 rangi        tango
20:30 jcamins      rangi: there's going to be an asado.
20:30 rangi        or hmm being a gaucho
20:30 jcamins      Maybe two.
20:30 rangi        yay
20:32 * jcamins    probably won't be going, and would probably be too intimidated to try to tango outside a classroom anyway, but learning tango is still fun.
20:33 rangi        im paying my own way, so taking it as a bit of a holiday, I might not even present, for the first time ever :)
20:33 jcamins      rangi: nice!
20:33 jcamins      Shari and I would love to go, but it's a bit too expensive to justify.
20:34 cait         rangi: that plan sounds familiar... :)
20:34 jcamins      [off] And if I went without her, I would not live long enough to make it to the airport.
20:34 cait         heh
20:36 rangi        [off] fair enough :)
20:45 bgkriegel    sorry, I left for a moment.
20:46 rangi        no worries
20:46 bgkriegel    no, I do not dance :)
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20:46 jcamins      bgkriegel:
20:46 jcamins      Whoops.
20:47 bgkriegel    tango at last, it's difficult
20:47 jcamins      bgkriegel: do you encounter a lot of tangoing?
20:47 bgkriegel    :)
20:47 bgkriegel    but I love to listen it
20:48 * cait       is too clumsy for tango
20:48 cait         but listening would be nice :)
20:48 jcamins      What New Yorkers call "Argentine tango" is especially difficult. There's no "right way."
20:48 bgkriegel    Best place is Buenos Aires of course, there is some in Cordoba
20:49 cait         when i was in hamburg last year we were at the park for some tango and a water fountain show (lights and fountain being controlled to the music - quite pretty)
20:49 cait         it was very nice
20:51 bgkriegel    there is a nice place, we can go (that's the idea)
20:52 bgkriegel    and listen and watch the dancing, and eat :)
20:52 cait         :)
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20:56 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update inner counter
20:58 rangi        hmm thats a not very nice email f
20:58 jcamins      rangi: ?
20:59 jcamins      Wrong window?
20:59 rangi        naw
20:59 rangi        http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2014-May/039581.html
20:59 jcamins      O.o
21:00 rangi        id answer, but probably too churlish given i work for catalyst
21:00 cait         it's really not nice
21:00 rambutan     something lost in translation perhaps
21:01 cait         i liked seeing people coordinate  on the list... hope stuff like that will not put an end to it
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21:01 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update inner counter
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21:06 cait         gmcharlt++
21:09 rangi        cait: well it certainly won't help it, thats for sure
21:10 cait         yeah :(
21:10 cait         understandably. hope your clients are clever enough to see that cheap is not the only thing to look out for
21:11 rangi        yeah, well, i think there is the whole a person who they have never heard of and who has never submitted a patch to koha before
21:11 rangi        thing as well
21:11 cait         :)
21:36 bgkriegel    gmcharlt: there are 2 patches on 12295, second is the good one?
21:37 gmcharlt     bgkriegel: yes; I've now obsoleted the older one
21:38 gmcharlt     the good one has a better explanation of why the bug happened in the first place
21:39 bgkriegel    yes, saw that :)
21:41 cait         bgkriegel++ and gmcharlt++
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21:59 rambutan     hey, wait a second. They ain't got coyotes in New Zealand.
22:02 wizzyrea     @later tell tcohen do you have all of the rights you need as RM on the website?
22:02 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
22:03 cait         good night all  :)
22:03 wizzyrea     gnite cait
22:25 eythian      hi
22:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #46: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/46/
22:30 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.14.07 release
22:30 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11253: tools/inventory.pl: fix handling of inventory date
22:30 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 12115: follow-up fix for tools/inventory's output_pref issues
22:30 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 8918: Fix reserve priority in ILS-DI
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11253 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , tools/inventory.pl output_pref ignores 'iso' parameter passed
22:30 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 8918: (follow-up) improve descriptions of two related sysprefs
22:30 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 8918: Add a unit test for CalculatePriority
22:30 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 8918: (follow-up)  more unit tests for CalculatePriority
22:30 jenkins_koha * Julian Maurice: Bug 8918: (follow-up) allow t/db_dependent/Reserves.t to pass if marcflavour is UNIMARC
22:30 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 8918: (follow-up) support creating brief UNIAMRC bibs in Reserves.t
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12115 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Follow up fix for tools/inventory.pl's output_pref issues
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8918 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , ILS-DI: HoldTitle and HoldItem do not calculate rank of hold
22:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8918: (follow-up) tidy code and description of CalculatePriority()
22:30 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11713 - Use new DataTables include in course reserves templates
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11713 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use new DataTables include in course reserves templates
22:30 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10452: make AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems control using damaged items to fulfill holds
22:30 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10452: [QA Followup] - Unit tests
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10452 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , AllowHoldsOnDamagedItems should control using damaged items to fulfill holds
22:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10452: (follow-up) remove duplicate check of damaged status
22:30 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10955 - Add ability to skip deletions in zebraqueue
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10955 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Add ability to skip deletions in zebraqueue
22:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10955: (follow-up) improve usage information
22:30 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11343: The max number of items to process in a batch is hardcoded
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11343 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , The max number of items to process in a batch is hardcoded
22:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11343: tweak wording of the syspref editor for MaxItemsForBatch
22:30 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 11343: DBRev 3.14.06.003
22:30 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 3445: add more indexes on the action_logs table
22:30 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 3445 - DBRev 3.14.06.004
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3445 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , action_logs table needs some thought
22:30 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 11516: make OPAC search term highlighting work in results browser
22:30 jenkins_koha * Jesse Maseto: Bug 11731 - Fixed typo in message_transport_types.txt file.
22:30 jenkins_koha * Nicholas van Oudtshoorn: Bug 10777: email HTML reports with the proper Content-Type
22:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10777: (follow-up) improve CSS3 for Zebra-striping report email output
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11516 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , OPAC highlight lost in results browser
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11731 normal, P5 - low, ---, jesse, Pushed to Stable , Typo "tranports" in installation
22:30 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11755: ensure that SearchOrders returns booksellerid
22:30 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10837: make it possible to export serial claims as CSV even when no notice defined
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10777 minor, P5 - low, ---, vanoudt, Pushed to Stable , runreport.pl allows for sending html reports via email, but mimetype is wrong
22:30 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11675: check allocated total correctly when editing a fund that has a parent fund
22:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10012: remove last traces of NoZebra
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11755 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Argument 'booksellerid' not properly handled in orderreceive.pl
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10837 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Exporting serial claims does not work if no notice defined
22:30 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 10012 - DBRev 3.14.06.005
22:30 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Update release notes for 3.14.7 release
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11675 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Budget amount is not checked if a parent exist
22:30 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Increment version for 3.14.7 release
22:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10012 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmc, Pushed to Stable , Remove all traces of NoZebraIndexes
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22:55 rangi        new website
22:55 rangi        http://www.catalyst.net.nz/
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23:18 wizzyrea     \o/
23:31 eythian      CGI.pm is being removed from Perl 5.20
23:31 eythian      (about time, too.)
23:36 mtj_         oooh, i like the new website peeps
23:43 mtj_         eythian: and good spotting re: cgi.pm :)
23:49 mtj_         ...just having a little read of the ML thread (for the curious) -> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/2013/05/msg202130.html
23:50 dcook        mtj_: Interesting!
23:50 wahanui      i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
23:52 ibeardslee   but usually not ideal
23:52 eythian      gamma-ray burst in Andromeda