Time  Nick         Message
23:51 dcook        rangi++
23:51 dcook        eythian++
23:49 rangi        but its all there in kohastructure.sql and the  installer/data/mysql/elasticsearch_mapping.sql
23:48 rangi        you'll have to make the mapping table and insert that data, i havent written the updatedatabase bit yet
23:48 eythian      yeah, it's all in the catalyst repo
23:47 bag          I may pull a new copy
23:47 bag          is this all pushed to the repo?
23:47 bag          nice nice
23:47 eythian      ^-- bag
23:46 eythian      that's all coming from ES, including the facets (which still need polish.)
23:46 eythian      https://i.imgur.com/XjZzVVe.png and a little bit later https://i.imgur.com/F4Cpxgk.png
23:44 bag          sweet
23:44 eythian      lemme find them...
23:44 bag          no
23:43 eythian      bag: hey, did you see the ES screenshots from the other day?
23:43 eythian      yeah, I wish it'd put the wind on there. That way wellington would win at something more often :)
23:31 dcook        It's ridiculously nice here ;). Should be cold but it's a beautiful day.
23:31 huginn       dcook: The current temperature in Sydney Airport, New South Wales is 19.0°C (9:00 AM EST on May 21, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
23:31 bag          boo it didn't put the wind on there...  it's super wicked windy here
23:30 dcook        @wunder sydney, australia
23:30 huginn       bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 19.7°C (4:30 PM PDT on May 20, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
23:30 bag          @wunder 93109
23:26 dcook        ...
23:26 dcook        Gotta love/hate when one character will resolve a problem\
23:24 huginn       dcook: The operation succeeded.
23:24 dcook        @later tell cait Also, it looks great this morning :D
23:24 huginn       dcook: The operation succeeded.
23:24 dcook        @later tell cait That first CSS you sent me was using an id rather than a class. Should've been "ul." not "ul#". My bad for not catching it sooner!
23:21 eythian      master packages uploading
23:07 eythian      hello
23:07 tcohen       hi eythian
23:05 tcohen       heh
22:58 eythian      well, the control file is totally current, that's always a good start.
22:50 * eythian    prepares to build new master packages, here's hoping everything still works...
22:47 eythian      hi
22:10 jce          Well, the value there is MARC21
22:06 gmcharlt     er, where variable = 'marcflavour'
22:06 gmcharlt     jce: the systempreferences table, the row whose value is 'marcflavour'
22:06 Pabloab      kylehall.info site seems down, and sourceforge have v3.8 :/
22:05 jce          Good question, wizzrea.  Where would I find that using phpmyadmin?
22:05 Pabloab      Do anyone konw where can I download a koha virtual appliance no more than 1 year older...?
22:04 wizzyrea     is it set in the db, and not just in the interface?
22:04 jce          It is set to MARC21 at present, but this database has gone through several upgrades since about 2008.
22:00 jce          I'll check it.
21:59 pianohacker  jce: You may want to check in the DB, if it's unset, the system will sometimes think it's unimarc, and "fix" the 100, which is a fixed field in unimarc
21:58 jce          I believe it is.
21:58 pianohacker  jce: have dealt with this annoying little thing before... Is the marcflavour preference set to MARC21?
21:58 jce          Sounds like you've seen this before.
21:57 jce          Why, how did you guess?
21:57 pianohacker  jce: is this piece of info frey50 by any chance?
21:57 jce          rt everything in XML format and try to slap together a Perl program to fix it.  Is there something easier available?
21:57 jce          Working on a troubled upgrade from 3.08 to 3.14.  Tried to validate MARC records and holdings exported from 3.08 with marcedit and noticed that my 100 (Personal Name) entries are messed up.  They are missing the first indicator, and have a uniform piece of junk data appended to the Personal name subfield, though the original name is still present.  What options do I have for programmatically repairing the database?  I could expo
21:52 wizzyrea     \o/ glad it's working
21:48 JoeLib001    wizzyrea: Thanks, too. :-) I didn't remember who had provided the solution. :-)
21:46 pianohacker  JoeLib001: Thank wizzyrea, I just asked a troubleshooting question :)
21:45 JoeLib001    pianohacker: I cleared my cookies and cache, closed the window, and restarted Firefox. It is now functioning properly. Thanks. :-) That would have driven me crazy in short order. XD
21:40 JoeLib001    Clearing Cookies should fix it for me. Thanks. :-)
21:40 JoeLib001    Ok, I just fixed it in I.E. I haven an IRC chat client on Firefox, so I will need to close out of IRC.
21:36 JoeLib001    Hmm...., should I have done a server reboot after the update?
21:36 JoeLib001    I just tried it on IE and it does it there too.
21:36 wizzyrea     JoeLib001: Clear your cache and cookies, force reload, and it should be happy again.
21:35 JoeLib001    Firefox
21:35 wahanui      Which browser are you using?
21:35 pianohacker  JoeLib001: Which browser?
21:34 JoeLib001    It is extremely annoying. I use ctrl+a, ctrl+c, ctrl+v, a lot. ;-)
21:32 JoeLib001    Koha does something whenever I press the control key. I am not exactly sure what it is doing, but it looks like it is consistently bringing up the advanced search page when I press the control key.
21:31 JoeLib001    Hello, I am having a weird issue in Koha after updating to Koha 3.14.06.
20:59 oleonard     Later #koha
20:52 pianohacker  oleonard: then yup, sounds like you've got the right approach :)
20:48 oleonard     Extension
20:48 pianohacker  oleonard: is this the web version or the firefox extension?
20:46 oleonard     My success in updating the KOCT for Firefox 29 is proof that the "hit it repeatedly with a rock" method of software development works.
20:45 cait         oleonard++
20:38 bag          and of course HI magnuse
20:38 bag          magnuse: close to almost all the funding for elastic search - just need a little more - we're using catmandu for that
20:37 bag          nice!
20:37 magnuse      woohoo - catmandu getting packaged for debian!
20:37 oleonard     Since the KOCT Firefox addon can't live in the status bar anymore I'm tinkering with a new icon: http://www.screencast.com/t/uGNMe9VGnqo
20:29 Pabloab      we  don't need namevirtualhost anymore?
20:28 Pabloab      I'm following http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_package I edited with some changes added by Ubuntu 14, but adding NameVirtualHost *:80 to ports.conf throw AH00548: NameVirtualHost has no effect and will be removed in the next release /etc/apache2/ports.conf
20:28 Pabloab      Hi all!
20:17 rangi        *nod*
20:16 jcamins      I guess only the messages on koha-devel were coming through, but I don't generally look to see which mailing list a message is from.
20:16 jcamins      Ah. I actually hadn't realized there was a problem.
20:15 rangi        its always been sending, i think its just been totally clogged, dunno I dont know the backstory, just watching messages come through a bit faster now
20:14 jcamins      rangi: was the server down, or was it just not sending mail to the list for a while?
20:14 * oleonard   gets out the rolled-up newspaper and the spray bottle
20:12 jcamins      oleonard: you could retrain your mail filter.
20:11 oleonard     Everything I get from "schnydszch" goes into spam.
20:10 rangi        up to the 16th now
20:09 gmcharlt     cool
20:07 rangi        looks like the mail is slowly catching up
19:03 oleonard     Thanks cait
19:01 cait         http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=contrib/global.git;a=summary
19:01 cait         oleonard: it's on our git repository
18:43 oleonard     Anyone know if the KOCT has a git repo somewhere?
18:26 huginn       rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 31.7°C (1:26 PM CDT on May 20, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling).
18:26 rambutan     @wunder 64507
18:09 cait         bye tcohen :)
18:01 tcohen       bye #koha
17:37 cait         tcohen++
17:25 huginn       druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 28.3°C (12:25 PM CDT on May 20, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
17:25 druthb       @wunder 77098
17:25 jce          talljoy:  That sounds useful. I'll check it out.  Thanks
17:20 talljoy      that sounds like it definitely got more stuff.  you can use marcedit (free download) to crack open the marc and see what've you've got!
17:20 jce          talljoy:  I exported from "Export bibliographic and holdings" in Home->Tools in the intranet interface.  It's possible I didn't specify items right the first time.  A second export is 1.1M instead of .6M.  Maybe I should try importing that one.
17:14 huginn       tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 16.8°C (2:10 PM ART on May 20, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling).
17:14 tcohen       @wunder Cordoba, Argentina
17:12 huginn       tcohen: Error: No such location could be found.
17:12 tcohen       @wunder ARC0023
17:12 tcohen       Joubu: around?
17:05 talljoy      952 are the item record tags.  999 would contain the biblionumber
17:05 jce          talljoy:  Yes, I exported all the marc records and holdings.  Not sure about the 952 and 999 tags.
17:05 talljoy      and yes. that is quite a leap from 3.08 to 3.14.  lots of changes involved in the data between the two.
17:04 talljoy      then I would truncate biblioimages altogether and try to reimport your bibs again.
17:04 jce          talljoy:  IIUC the biblioimages table is for visual images, such as book covers.  We aren't using any of those.
17:03 jce          talljoy:  This is a problematic upgrade from 3.08 to 3.14.  No results are found in zebra querys, even after rebuilding the index.  I've reinstalled 3.08 in a VM and it is working.  The migration strategy was suggested here to fix the database in 3.14 after normal upgrade failed.
16:54 tcohen       question: if setting an explicit encoding in the IO layer doesn't work, but decoding does, what does it mean?
16:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12282 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , RESERVESLIP wrong in German sample notices
16:21 jenkins_koha Katrin Fischer: Bug 12282: fix RESERVESLIP in German sample notices
16:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1759: SUCCESS in 2 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1759/
16:21 jcamins      I've seen mixed up sites with git, where someone merged something they oughtn't, and ended up with some files that weren't tracked preventing the actual upgrade.
16:20 talljoy      but i learned on them, so that's probly why
16:20 talljoy      but then again, i just find git sites easier to navigate
16:20 jcamins      The upgrade process will catch when there's an error and complain.
16:20 * talljoy    dislikes them
16:20 jcamins      Oh, hm. I've never had problems with a package site.
16:19 talljoy      i'm checking apache log now and koha error log if i can track it down.  durn package site
16:19 jcamins      I mean, it could well be a JS conflict, but you'd know if there were custom JS.
16:19 jcamins      That'd be my guess as the most likely problem... some stale files from an older version. Unless there are JS errors, of course.
16:19 * talljoy    rules nothing out.
16:18 talljoy      it could be that.
16:18 talljoy      that was my first thought.
16:18 jcamins      Bad installation?
16:18 talljoy      yup
16:18 jcamins      So it's just the one site?
16:18 talljoy      but still could be some kind of conflict with some custom js they have
16:18 talljoy      same browser and it works on other sites though
16:17 talljoy      that's the thought from last night.
16:17 jcamins      JS error?
16:17 talljoy      like clicking in dead air.
16:17 jcamins      Hmm.
16:17 talljoy      *nothing*
16:17 jcamins      *Nothing*?
16:17 talljoy      on 3.14.6 and clicking on the merge button does *nothing*
16:17 jcamins      Oh? What version? And what's the oddity?
16:16 jcamins      talljoy: nah, it's not so much sleepiness as being mostly not here.
16:16 talljoy      nothing urgent.  i've just got an oddity with authority merge.
16:16 * talljoy    slides a cup o coffee to jcamins
16:16 jcamins      talljoy: barely.
16:07 talljoy      jcamins are you in?
16:07 talljoy      did you export all your marc records?  Are you starting fresh on this?  Do you have 952 and 999 tags in your file that you're importing?
16:05 talljoy      and it is running into problems with the biblioimages table.  you will need to truncate that table before proceeding.  but you will lose all your bib images.
16:04 talljoy      jce are you sure you want to use the -d?
15:37 jce          DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot truncate a table referenced in a foreign key constraint (`koha_bcmc`.`accountlines`, CONSTRAINT `accountlines_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`itemnumber`) REFERENCES `koha_bcmc`.`items` (`itemnumber`)) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 117.
15:37 jce          DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot truncate a table referenced in a foreign key constraint (`koha_bcmc`.`items`, CONSTRAINT `items_ibfk_1` FOREIGN KEY (`biblioitemnumber`) REFERENCES `koha_bcmc`.`biblioitems` (`biblioitemnumber`)) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 116.
15:37 jce          DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot truncate a table referenced in a foreign key constraint (`koha_bcmc`.`biblioimages`, CONSTRAINT `bibliocoverimage_fk1` FOREIGN KEY (`biblionumber`) REFERENCES `koha_bcmc`.`biblio` (`biblionumber`)) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 115.
15:37 jce          Trying to migrate biblios and holdings from 3.08 to 3.14.  Tried using bulkmarcimport.pl -d -commit 1000 -file ./BCMC.MRC and get the following error messages:
15:28 cait         :)
15:28 cait         hi oleonard
15:28 oleonard     Hi #koha
15:25 * tcohen     is having a headache thinking of double encoding problems
15:16 talljoy      back
15:06 reiveune     bye
14:57 Pabloab      That's me
14:57 tcohen       Pabloab was asking
14:57 khall        oh, virtual appliance ; )
14:56 khall        va?
14:55 tcohen       khall: a user approached me regarding the VA you provided in kylehall.info
14:51 jpap         but, as I can see in koha2marclinks.pl, biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber are already mapped to 001 and 090 $a respectively
14:45 fridolin     jpap: but infact you need to have a mapping for those fields : got to /cgi-bin/koha/admin/koha2marclinks.pl
14:39 jpap         ... so, I can proceed ignoring them. Thank you!
14:39 fridolin     jpap: if you use UNIMARC, those are false wornings
14:39 jpap         unimarc. both in koha-conf and web installation...
14:35 gmcharlt     jpap: what MARC flavor did you select during installation?
14:31 tcohen       we should compare the load -> process -> render chain
14:30 bgkriegel    yup
14:30 tcohen       somehow, the UTF-8 data is rendered as Latin-1 (that's why every char results in two broken chars)
14:29 tcohen       BUT, it doesn't fix if you add it to preferences.pl
14:29 tcohen       if I remove $YAML::Syck::ImplicitUnicode = 1; then it breaks like in the sysprefs
14:28 pastebot     "tcohen" at 172.16.248.199 pasted "bgkriegel: this test shows correctly (YAML::Syck 1.27)" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/12
14:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #1759 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:15 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12282: fix RESERVESLIP in German sample notices <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f9a8ccc18c8d97ac4167e313f4d3a685a9000dc>
14:14 wahanui      any ideas are welcome :)
14:14 jpap         any ideas?
14:13 jpap         Hello everybody, just installed koha from packages for ubuntu 12.04 LTS (unimarc). However, without importing any data at all, when running the 'MARC bibliographic framework test' I get the error: The biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber fields be mapped to a MARC subfield,
13:44 Joubu        tcohen: no
13:44 tcohen       did u find the bug?
13:43 Joubu        tcohen: hum?
13:43 tcohen       Joubu: did u?
13:34 magnuse      i think opl spotted this for the first time several months ago
13:33 Joubu        yep, just found it!
13:33 bgkriegel    ^ that file
13:32 bgkriegel    fr-FR-pref.po
13:32 bgkriegel    Joubu: looking on that
13:32 bgkriegel    I edited opac.pref and added some letters with accents, and reloaded, they look bad.
13:32 Joubu        bgkriegel: how are .pref generated? I don't find the strings in po files
13:31 Joubu        tcohen: I tried but I didn't find a commit id where that worked!
13:27 cait         sorry that i can't help much right now :(
13:26 * tcohen     will try bisecting
13:26 cait         maybe something caused a side effect
13:25 cait         we did quite a lot of changes to the translation scripts recently
13:25 fridolin     it sould be tested in a debian Jessie. Not in ubuntu I'd say
13:25 cait         like a 3.14.0?
13:25 cait         could someone verify that it also appears on older versions?
13:25 magnuse      is there any difference in how the strings are quoted in the .pref files?
13:25 cait         hm
13:24 fridolin     don't know, maybe something in gettext lib
13:23 cait         fridolin: but why would only besome pages affected?
13:17 fridolin     maybe some perl lib
13:16 fridolin     Joubu: cc ^
13:16 fridolin     no it is not the origin
13:15 bgkriegel    will try to find an updated machine to test
13:14 bgkriegel    don't know
13:14 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12151 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , remove remaining uses of the Perl smartmatch operator
13:14 bgkriegel    Bug 12151
13:14 fridolin     but can this cause the bug we see in translation ?
13:13 bgkriegel    fridolin: yes, was the topic of a thread on mailing list
13:11 fridolin     yep : not $lang ~~ $installer->{langs}, this must be corrected
13:10 fridolin     maybe some code deprecated
13:10 fridolin     I get Smartmatch is experimental at translate line 54.
13:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
13:10 magnuse      this kind of reminds me of benjamins problem described on bug 11944 - he got lots of double encoding after applying the patches there, i did not. and we could not really find anything different in our environments...
13:10 fridolin     Joubu: I do reproduce with 5.18
13:07 cait         i am using whatever is current in the older ubuntu version (haven't updated yet)
13:06 cait         if you leave a note on the bug I can look it up tonight
13:06 cait         not now i am afraid
13:06 Joubu        cait: could you confirm you reproduce this problem with perl v5.18?
13:05 fridolin     I have v5.14.2
13:05 Joubu        with perl 5.18
13:05 wahanui      i already had it that way, Joubu.
13:05 Joubu        and Smartmatch is experimental at ./translate line 54.
13:04 Joubu        main::token_negligible_p() called too early to check prototype at ./xgettext.pl line 52.
13:04 Joubu        I got
13:04 bgkriegel    Joubu: v5.14.2
13:04 fridolin     I get for opac.pref : Utiliser le th\xC3\xA8me
13:04 Joubu        bgkriegel: what is your perl version?
13:04 fridolin     testing on 3.14.x
13:03 Joubu        bgkriegel: hum, this is weird! fridolin does not get any "é" either
13:03 bgkriegel    also don't know why the difference
13:02 bgkriegel    Joubu: that's part of mine
13:02 pastebot     "bgkriegel" at 200.16.17.253 pasted "fr-FR opac.pref" (60 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/11
12:59 Joubu        bgkriegel: I really don't know what I'm doing wrong. Here is my opac.pref on master after update/install fr-FR
12:59 pastebot     "Joubu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "fr-FR opac.pref" (735 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/10
12:47 bgkriegel    :( - reset and clean, update/install fr-FR, no one é on prefs. There are 2 è on EN enhanced_content (from Babelthèque)
12:39 Joubu        and a lot of others!
12:39 Joubu        tmpl_process3.pl: Warning: unconsistent %s count: (14/15):
12:39 Joubu        Smartmatch is experimental at ./translate line 54.
12:39 Joubu        ./translate install fr-FR                                                                                  [14:37:48]
12:39 Joubu        but!
12:39 Joubu        bug!
12:39 Joubu        bgkriegel: I confirm my last number on master... :)
12:36 bgkriegel    Joubu: on master, not a one 'é' on FR or DE translation (sysprefs)
12:35 cait         mine was a git installation, not gitified
12:35 cait         sorry i got called into a meeting
12:30 tcohen       morning
12:30 Joubu        grep -c '\\xC3\\xA9' opac.pref : 17
12:30 Joubu        bgkriegel: grep -c é opac.pref : 96
12:30 Joubu        bgkriegel: everywhere :)
12:24 magnuse      hm, i can't seem to find a bug
12:19 bgkriegel    Joubu: which line?
12:19 magnuse      i think benjamin at opl did some digging, and found that it mattered if the string was quoted or not in the yaml (.pref) file
12:17 francharb    good morning
12:17 Joubu        the opac.pref contains "é" and "\xC3\xA9"
12:16 bgkriegel    on 3.14 (3.1403000/tar) no problems using DE/FR
12:15 magnuse      hm, i think there is a bug for this
12:14 magnuse      also the circ tab
12:14 magnuse      but my dev installation (running master off a gitified package install) does have the problem on the OPAC tab
12:13 magnuse      hm, my private installation running 3.1406000 off the packages does not have the problem
12:10 Joubu        OPAC
12:07 magnuse      which tabs are you seeing the problems on?
12:04 Joubu        cait: the problem exists in 3.14
12:03 * magnuse    dunno
12:02 cait         could this be it?
12:02 cait         ah
12:02 magnuse      "file koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/preferences/*.pref" says one of the files is utf8, the rest ascii
12:02 Joubu        cait: I reproduce
11:59 bgkriegel    yes :( still testing
11:59 cait         bgkriegel: i hate bugs that do that - being not reproducable for everyone :(
11:58 nlegrand     cait: I didn't looked in tabs I was in syspref search. I gave examples of OK and not OK fields.
11:57 nlegrand     cait: done
11:56 bgkriegel    cait: checked, all looks ok
11:54 cait         on another note... someone using ldap around?
11:52 cait         really strange
11:51 cait         others were not
11:51 cait         bgkriegel: did you look at different tabs? some were completely ok
11:51 vfernandes   should I have one udp?
11:51 vfernandes   checking the ports I only have tcp        0      0 *:9998                  *:*                     LISTEN
11:50 magnuse      bgkriegel, cait: opl have been seeing this too. it's just on some of the syspref tabs, not all of them
11:47 vfernandes   but when I do "yaz-client -c /etc/koha/zebradb/ccl.properties localhost:9999/biblios" i get "Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection refused"
11:46 vfernandes   i've uncommented the publicserver tags on koha-conf.xml and restarted the zebra server
11:45 vfernandes   need some help to set Koha as a public server - http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Koha_as_a_Z39.50_server
11:45 bgkriegel    cait: errr, about 12279, looks good for me (...URL ohne abschließenden Schrägstrich an...)
11:45 vfernandes   hi :)
11:45 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12274 critical, P3, ---, abl, Signed Off , Closed invoices not properly handled on invoice details page
11:44 Joubu        bug 12274 is critical and waiting for qa
11:43 nlegrand     cait: ok :)
11:42 cait         coudl you add a note to the bug please?
11:42 nlegrand     3.15.00.052
11:42 cait         thx nlegrand
11:42 cait         hm so it was not just me
11:41 nlegrand     cait: Inclure la feuille de style CSS supplémentaire
11:40 nlegrand     cait: Eine einzelne Zahl definiert eine exakt verlangte Länge, ein Längenbereich wird kommasepariert eingegeben
11:38 cait         so someone confirming if the same happens on their system wouldn't hurt I think
11:38 cait         it seemed werid and it was a weird evening when I ran into it
11:37 paxed        cait: i've seen it before, although i haven't tested with the current master.
11:29 nlegrand     :)
11:22 cait         ok, diacritics was not really the topic, but the email address above reminded me:)
11:22 nlegrand     mtj_: sure :)
11:22 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12279 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Diacritics in system preference editor broken
11:21 cait         talking about diacritics... could someone confirm bug 12279 maybe?
11:20 mtj_         should be easy to do :)
11:19 mtj_         gotcha
11:16 nlegrand     mtj_: that's not what I want to do, rebuild_zebra.pl -x -k still reindexes with zebraidx afterward. I feel usefull to have an option to get just the export without zebraidx afterward
11:00 bgkriegel    Hi magnuse!
10:59 magnuse      ¡hola bgkriegel!
10:53 bgkriegel    hello
10:24 mtj_         some accidental non-utf patches, perhaps?
10:24 mtj_         yeah, that happens sometimes...
10:21 mtj_         i'm not sure if that msg important, or not
10:21 fridolin     There is a bad email adresse in some patches I think : Invalid address: “staff@bywatersolutions.com”
10:21 mtj_         10:41:16 Devel::Cover: Can't find file "Parser.yp" (Parser.yp): ignored.
10:20 mtj_         hmm, but there are some warnings too...
10:19 mtj_         says ... "10:45:08 [10:45:08] xt/author/valid-templates.t ............................ ok   233203 ms"
10:18 mtj_         you can check the build logs -> http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/41/consoleFull
10:18 mtj_         ahh, ok :)
10:17 fridolin     I've run this test for validating backports
10:17 fridolin     yep, a pity I did not notice earlier
10:16 mtj_         more good news fridolin... your 12271 patch looks to be working OK
10:08 mtj_         'Test Result (43 failures / -6)'
10:07 fridolin     cool
10:05 mtj_         but some good news fridolin... looks like build 41 has 6 less errors than build 40 :)
10:01 mtj_         fridolin: here is the detail on build 41 -> http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/41/
09:58 mtj_         the man page will tell you more
09:57 mtj_         use -x and -k, for exporting
09:55 mtj_         nlegrand: yes, export already exists
09:30 fridolin     thank my friend jenkins ;). But I'm a noob in unit tests. Can someone have a look ?
09:28 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12271 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , valid-templates.t does not test bootstrap opac templates
09:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 12271: (follow-up) fix minor errors in Bootstrap theme
09:28 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 12271: (follow-up) teach valid-templates.t how to include specified templates
09:28 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 12271: add Bootstrap templates to valid-templates.t tests
09:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #41: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/41/
09:13 nlegrand     +s
09:13 nlegrand     or maybe it already exist? :)
09:13 nlegrand     I would like to have an export only option in rebuild_zebra.pl (exported_recordes aree  portable, can be done outside production server, easy to debug), do you think I can add such a feature? Or is it a bad idea?
08:38 huginn       magnuse: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (95), "cait" (73), and "eythian" (54).  Lowest karma: "indexdata" (-3), "-" (-3), and "windchill" (-3).  You (magnuse) are ranked 10 out of 188.
08:38 magnuse      @karma
08:38 magnuse      year's end? new release?
08:38 magnuse      i don't remember when, though
08:38 magnuse      and it is even reset periodically
08:30 ashimema     there is indeed
08:30 ashimema     hehe
08:29 atheia       Oh, there's a karma ladder!
08:28 huginn       ashimema: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (95), "cait" (73), and "eythian" (54).  Lowest karma: "indexdata" (-3), "-" (-3), and "windchill" (-3).  You (ashimema) are ranked 9 out of 188.
08:28 ashimema     @karma
08:28 jajm         yw ashimema
08:26 atheia       And everyone else of course :-)
08:26 atheia       Good morning cait
08:26 huginn       cait: Karma for "atheia" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5.
08:26 cait         @karma atheia
08:26 cait         hi atheia :)
08:08 ashimema     thanks jajm
08:08 ashimema     if we find any missing bits, we'll submit it for your aproval ;)
08:07 ashimema     but for the bits that we found already missing seems you've tied most of it up nicely already..
08:07 ashimema     I don't think we need the scope it's gone into yet.
08:06 ashimema     Cheers jajm.. it's all very interesting code.
08:06 jajm         ashimema, you could also take a look at branch ft/R997, there's more unit tests, and a bit of code refactoring
08:00 ashimema     will do.. it's looking very complete.. shame it's not likely to get upstreamed.. though I can understand why
08:00 ashimema     cheers
08:00 jajm         ashimema, please feel free to contribute ;)
08:00 ashimema     I'll keep reading then..
07:59 ashimema     haha.. haven't got that far yet ;)
07:59 jajm         no, we deploy it as told in the readme file
07:59 ashimema     and seems silly to duplicate api effort at the koha end ;)
07:59 ashimema     we're developing the vufind koha drivers..
07:58 ashimema     as a git submodule?
07:58 ashimema     was just chatting to Joubu.. wondered how your deploying it?
07:58 jajm         what do you want to know about koha-restful ?
07:58 ashimema     good morning.
07:58 jajm         ashimema, hi
07:50 magnuse      yay!
07:50 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on May 20, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
07:50 magnuse      @wunder boo
07:48 magnuse      bonjour nlegrand
07:47 nlegrand     Hiya #koha o/
07:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #41 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
07:39 ashimema     cheers Joubu.. no rush
07:37 Joubu        ashimema: jajm does not seem to be available atm. He should be here in the morning.
07:35 magnuse      tee hee
07:34 Joubu        s/a developer/another developer/ :)
07:34 ashimema     hi fridolin
07:34 fridolin     hie all
07:34 ashimema     :)
07:34 Joubu        ashimema: I don't know, I didn't develop it. I am going to ping a developer.
07:31 ashimema     take it you guys deploy it as a git submodule?
07:28 ashimema     I can certainly see why you guys have gone in this direction..
07:25 Joubu        ashimema: an other reason would be there are not enough UT to be sure the code is working for all versions.
07:22 ashimema     shame though.
07:22 ashimema     there's a heck of allot in there.. would be very difficult to get it in.
07:22 magnuse      yup
07:21 ashimema     that's a fair arguament.
07:18 Joubu        no, because it is too difficult to upstream this kind of stuff
07:17 magnuse      Joubu: and do you have plans for upstreaming it? :-)
07:16 ashimema     so Joubu.. why wasn't the restful stuff upstreamed.. sure there was a reason way back.. but I can't remember it ;)
07:16 magnuse      wb cait
07:10 * cait       waves
07:07 ashimema     thanks Joubu
07:07 Joubu        ashimema: you can clone now it using git clone http://git.biblibre.com/biblibre/koha-restful.git
07:05 ashimema     I didn't realise your restful stuff wasn't upstreamed.. though you'de been doing it in ils-di
07:04 ashimema     so yeah.. not public as yet ;)
07:04 ashimema     I get redirected to the gitlab login page
07:04 Joubu        and it seems that projects have not been marked as public :)
07:03 ashimema     trust my timing
07:03 Joubu        from gitweb to gitlab
07:03 ashimema     haha..
07:03 Joubu        ashimema: our git web interface has been migrated yesterday
06:57 ashimema     requires a login
06:57 ashimema     the link to it from http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/APIs_and_protocols_supported_by_Koha
06:57 ashimema     hmm, I can't actually get to the repo for koha-restful thouhg
06:56 magnuse      yup
06:56 magnuse      (should probably read further back than a screenfull before joining the conversation, but...)
06:56 ashimema     there are too many way to skin the same cat ;)
06:56 ashimema     that's where I'm going next..
06:56 magnuse      ashimema: have you looked at the rest api biblibre created?
06:54 ashimema     ok.. svc is now starting to make more sense
06:54 * magnuse    waves
06:40 cait         brb
06:40 cait         gotta run
06:40 ashimema     I can't find it right now.
06:40 wahanui      in fact is, like, the today situation
06:40 ashimema     in fact..
06:39 ashimema     but actually finding it in the first palce isn't intuative
06:39 cait         that's true, but we could do similar for other things
06:39 ashimema     The documentation in the ils-di page on koha is great.
06:39 cait         http://www.diglib.org/community/groups/ils-di/
06:38 cait         as i said, i think one that didn't really work out
06:38 cait         http://old.diglib.org/architectures/ilsdi/
06:38 cait         well kind of standard
06:38 reiveune     hello
06:38 ashimema     svc is bascially not documented
06:38 cait         nope
06:38 ashimema     is ils-di really a standard.. I thought it was something we made up
06:37 ashimema     and setting system prefs
06:37 cait         as long as it's well documented i think it's ok and it covers things that the other apis don't do
06:37 cait         i am not sure there is any standard for those out there, so we need to think up something ourselves
06:37 cait         hm reports too...
06:36 ashimema     it's not just cataloging
06:36 ashimema     svc feels weird to me.
06:35 cait         atheia++
06:35 wahanui      goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
06:35 dcook        night all!
06:35 * dcook      should scram...
06:35 cait         the ability to limit it to a single ip addres sin sysprefs is not really ideal
06:34 cait         not on 80
06:34 cait         like working on a different port if you want
06:34 dcook        It also gives you access to reports
06:34 cait         i think what ils-di wuld need is being a bit more secure
06:34 dcook        I guess I'd say svc is really "backend"
06:34 cait         a catalouging api doesn't really fit in welll there
06:33 dcook        ashimema: svc can be pretty h andy I think
06:33 cait         di = discovery interface
06:33 cait         ils-di was some kind of a standard that didn't get really popular
06:33 cait         svc is catalouging :)
06:33 ashimema     those should be merged into ils-di me thinks
06:33 wahanui      i guess ILS-DI is too specific, but a component for web services seems reasonable to me
06:33 dcook        ILS-DI?
06:33 cait         ashimema: ah but that's an cool api
06:33 wahanui      well, ILS-DI is too specific, but a component for web services seems reasonable to me
06:33 dcook        ILS-DI?
06:33 dcook        ILS-DI is similar to oai-pmh
06:33 ashimema     i tihnk it's mainly svc I don't see the point of.
06:32 ashimema     seeing as it came up for it.
06:32 ashimema     similar to oai-pmh ;)
06:32 dcook        What would you like to say about it?
06:32 ashimema     true.
06:32 dcook        C'est facile, ashimema
06:32 ashimema     we should add ils-di to wahanui.. if I knew how
06:32 dcook        Then you have SIP, NCIP, rest, all the things!
06:32 ashimema     we should add ils-di to wahanui.. if I new how
06:31 cait         ashimema++ #thx for the sign off :)
06:31 ashimema     ILS-DI
06:31 ashimema     ils-di
06:31 wahanui      oai-pmh is probably "a way to share Koha data with external applications"
06:31 ashimema     OAI-PMH..
06:30 ashimema     I'm not really sure where SRV et al fit in
06:30 ashimema     I say one.. probably two.. bib's out in one (SRU, z39.50 whatever) and everything else out in another, ils-di.
06:29 ashimema     ;)
06:29 dcook        ashimema: Word
06:29 cait         but it's till in the early stages :)
06:29 ashimema     I wish koha had just one simple api.. rather than a whole bunch.
06:29 cait         we have libraries that will use vufind+koha
06:29 cait         we'd be interested to use that maybe at some point
06:29 dcook        But not just externally...
06:29 ashimema     bascially we've used whatever we could api wise.. so mostly ils-di as it's the most complete.. but I wouldn't be surprised if there's some srv and other stuff
06:29 cait         ashimema: cool :)
06:29 dcook        Umm..just that it would be nice if Koha just had more feature rich APIs
06:28 dcook        I'm not sure how to describe it..haha
06:28 ashimema     mostly ils-di yeah..
06:28 ashimema     hehe.. I see
06:27 cait         ashimema: how does it work? using ils-di?
06:27 dcook        I meant here as in the office
06:27 dcook        Ah, sorry
06:27 ashimema     what was said?
06:27 ashimema     I must have been offline for that chat..
06:27 ashimema     yeah, we ran up against that one too dcook
06:27 dcook        We've chatted a bit here about Koha's APIs
06:26 dcook        In any case, he had to hack it to look elsewhere
06:26 dcook        That may have been for VuFind itself
06:26 ashimema     I think we've gone as far as we can in vifind for the moment.. we're now looking at suplimenting a few bits in the koha api's to allow us some more flexability in the vifind driver
06:26 dcook        Oh wait...
06:26 dcook        It also doesn't work very well anyway if your DB is on another server
06:26 * dcook      nods
06:26 ashimema     We had been improving the db connector.. but it just feels naughty to use a direct db connection somehow.
06:25 dcook        If we branch out into VuFind, I might find myself getting involved
06:25 dcook        Very nice!
06:25 ashimema     it's nicer
06:25 ashimema     but now we've bascially re-written it to use the koha api's instead of a direct db connection.
06:24 ashimema     we've been using a number of tweaks to the driver for a while, but hadn't worked out how to upstream them..
06:24 cait         very awesome!
06:24 dcook        Different from the KohaDB one
06:24 dcook        KohaRest is a different driver, eh?
06:24 ashimema     VuFind doesn't have too mayn contributors, but they're a really friendly community..
06:24 dcook        Hmm KohaRest...
06:23 ashimema     haha
06:23 dcook        I've been wondering how frequently those drivers get updated..
06:23 wahanui      That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, dcook
06:23 dcook        Awesome!
06:23 ashimema     we're about to submit upstream with it.
06:23 ashimema     athea has been doing a great job of updating the vufind koha drivers
06:23 ashimema     yeah for koha + vufind: https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/vufind/commits/koha-driver
06:22 ashimema     dcook.. that's funny
06:21 cait         yeah still moving :)
06:21 ashimema     my inbox is filling nicely every morning at the moment.. lots of pushing going on still
06:21 dcook        Gotta love how Microsoft needs http://www.modern.ie/ in an attempt to stay relevant...
06:20 cait         but not the address
06:20 cait         it still shows the user's name tho :)
06:20 ashimema     but that's another issue
06:20 ashimema     It should have logic to remove the bullet if the info doesn't exist..
06:19 cait         it will just show the bullet point... and nothing next to it
06:19 ashimema     I can understand that.
06:19 cait         because when you don#t have that on the patron account
06:19 cait         i didn't like the styling much with the list eelments
06:19 ashimema     but then it's a sample.. So I think most of our clients just take the sample and butcher it to their own needs.. hense it's easier to remove lines, than to add them ;)
06:18 cait         half the time we had losts of bullet points without text showing up
06:18 ashimema     the englsih one seems a bit overloaded to me too.
06:18 ashimema     that's fair.
06:18 cait         in my opinion
06:18 cait         also some of it didn't make much sense
06:18 ashimema     time for breakfast now.
06:18 ashimema     cool.. all done..
06:18 cait         ah yes
06:15 ashimema     as you've removed pretty much that whole section
06:15 ashimema     I assume borrower details in the slip by default is bad for your data privacy stuff right
06:15 ashimema     you have a fairly different set of information in our patch to whats in the english counterpart.?  I assume that's deliberate.
06:14 ashimema     lol
06:10 cait         ..
06:10 cait         of course that went undetected until the workshop
06:10 cait         i made a mistake when i copied in our stndard templates
06:10 cait         thx
06:10 ashimema     ust checking against it's english counterpart now.
06:10 ashimema     your patch looks good to me btw..
06:09 ashimema     might stir it a little ;)
06:09 ashimema     :).. was just going to change qa contact to him ;)
06:08 cait         asking him wouldn't hurt :)
06:08 cait         he did
06:08 ashimema     brendan took on SIP as module maintainer didn't he?
06:07 ashimema     okies.
06:07 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11633 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Cannot use the override function AllowFineOverride on the Staff client because this stops the pay function working on the SelfCheck (SC) machines
06:07 ashimema     we've been hoping to find someone to test bug 11633 for a while.. we've got a customer willing to sign off, but really we need an unrelated signoff too
06:07 cait         not right now :(
06:07 ashimema     happen to have anyone to test a SIP bug?
06:02 ashimema     lol
06:02 cait         it's my last patch for the web installer fixing a bug
06:02 cait         asking not as qam :)
06:02 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12282 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , RESERVESLIP wrong in German sample notices
06:02 cait         bug 12282
06:02 ashimema     I'll have a look over breaskfast.
06:02 cait         12282
06:02 ashimema     go on then..
06:02 cait         ashimema: do you think you might have a little time for a quick qa?
06:01 ashimema     morning cait
06:01 cait         and yep gmcharlt++
06:01 cait         morning ashimema
06:01 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12288 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Search Errors with AggressiveMatchOnISBN turned on
06:00 ashimema     gmcharlt++ #For super fast followup and pushing of bug 12288
05:44 eythian      later all
05:44 dcook        Well, have a good night :)
05:43 eythian      I might get the chance tomorrow, I'm about to head off now.
05:43 dcook        Actually not sure if it applies to Chromium as well as Chrome...
05:43 dcook        Perhaps you'd take a look at my printing bug once I get it posted?
05:42 eythian      sweet cheers
05:42 dcook        eythian: Code looks good. I'll test it in a bit. Possibly after I get some food in me...
05:30 eythian      dcook: fixed, ta
05:27 eythian      I will fix, one moment
05:27 * dcook      ponders late lunchtime options
05:27 eythian      ahh
05:27 dcook        yeah
05:26 eythian      in the sub
05:26 dcook        Yeah, I see it as a parameter, but not in the script
05:26 eythian      oh
05:26 eythian      +          if ($embeditems);
05:26 eythian      +        C4::Biblio::EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio( $record, $biblionumber, undef, $opac )
05:26 dcook        Hmm, not seeing it :/
05:26 eythian      yes, it should be there
05:26 eythian      because I tested it
05:26 eythian      yes, but maybe I forgot to attach it
05:25 eythian      wait
05:25 eythian      doh
05:25 dcook        eythian: Do you actually use $opac in EmbedItemsInMarcBiblio?
05:24 dcook        Hmm, it would be easier to read with the whitespace as a separate patch
05:21 dcook        Ah, there's the email
05:19 dcook        eythian: Cool beans.
05:18 eythian      dcook: updated the OAI-PMH stuff to respect OpacHiddenItems
05:16 cait         tries to figure out if the library has an electronic license or a print of the article/journal issue you are looking for
05:16 wahanui      goodnight pianohacker. You'll be back.
05:16 pianohacker  night all
05:16 pianohacker  going to bed now...
05:16 cait         there is a openurl thing around here - jop - journals online and print
05:16 cait         hm might assume bib-level itypes tho
05:15 dcook        I guess that would do it
05:15 wahanui      item types are used to define circulation rules, so you may want to keep them separate from search-related categorization
05:15 dcook        item types.
05:15 dcook        3/ Fill syspref OPACHideOpenURLForItemTypes with some (not all) of your
05:11 dcook        Mmm maybe not..
05:10 dcook        Ah wait...I think that's in the GetCOINS sub part I guess..
05:09 dcook        It would be a pain in the butt for print resources
05:09 dcook        The thing I don't understand about using OpenURL though...it would only be useful for electronic resources
05:08 cait         heh
05:08 dcook        cait: I think you might be one of santa's elves ;)
05:07 * cait       should maybe be going back to bed
05:07 cait         :)
05:07 cait         and i just started to feel a bit like santa
05:06 eythian      I just needed to know what I was answering :)
05:05 eythian      s'ok, I don't need it any more :)
05:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8995 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Show OpenURL links in OPAC search results
05:05 cait         and have something for eythian too: bug 8995
05:04 cait         had a library testing it recently, it worked
05:03 dcook        That's pretty cool :)
05:02 cait         the idea is that you can use javascript and the plugin to specify how the page should print - which printer, which settings etc. and that the pop does not happen then
05:01 dcook        I should link that in the bug report
05:01 dcook        Ahh, very cool!
05:01 cait         i don't know what you should be doing - just trying to epxlain wht the pref was created for :)
05:01 cait         :)
05:00 cait         don't ask me
05:00 dcook        Or maybe I should listen to what you're saying :p
05:00 dcook        Maybe
05:00 dcook        cait: All good. I'm just working on patches now :)
04:59 cait         you asked:  Why might you want to override that function with IntranetSlipPrinterJS?
04:58 cait         reading the logs now :)
04:58 cait         http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_up_slip_printer_to_print_silently
04:58 cait         dcook: the print js thing - look at the wiki for silent printing
04:30 cait         gmcharlt++
04:27 cait         bag++
04:26 dcook        Yay open source
04:26 dcook        As a random aside, I thought it interesting that the National Library of Australia uses VuFind as their front-end catalogue
04:24 eythian      howdy :)
04:24 pianohacker  bed: go back to cait
04:24 cait         hi eythian
04:24 cait         :)
04:23 eythian      cait: go back to bed.
04:23 eythian      it's a typo. It'd be trivial to fix.
04:22 paxed        pianohacker: "forRoad"
04:21 eythian      that's earthquake weather at this time of year.
04:21 eythian      hmm
04:21 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (4:00 PM NZST on May 20, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
04:21 eythian      @wunder nzwn
04:17 pianohacker  paxed: yes?
04:09 paxed        "<li>'ROADTYPE' is used forRoad types"
04:00 pianohacker  rangi: Is there any reason not to do Koha::Database->new->schema?
03:54 dcook        I think I mostly get it? :p
03:53 dcook        lol
03:53 * eythian    nominates dcook as the link resolver expert. Seconded ... passed!
03:53 dcook        You give the link resolver some metadata in OpenURL format, and it checks its knowledgebase to see if it has it
03:52 dcook        From what I can tell, it's pretty much just used for journal articles and maybe ebooks
03:51 dcook        I wrote an awful blog post about it which has a bit more info: http://tech4lib.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/openurl-and-link-resolvers/
03:51 dcook        That's how it seems to me
03:50 eythian      ah cool, so all we need is a specially formatted link to their resolver.
03:49 dcook        eythian: http://data.lib.sussex.ac.uk/services-and-applications/openurl-and-link-resolvers/
03:46 dcook        Actually, I think that I figured out OpenURL at some point..
03:44 eythian      oh
03:43 dcook        I meant the RFT in OpenURL
03:42 eythian      It's more or less an RFP
03:42 dcook        rft looks weird
03:41 dcook        Yeah, this is just ezproxy
03:41 eythian      ah yeah, we have some people using that kind of thing, like ezproxy.
03:40 dcook        They're using a proxy not a link resolver
03:40 dcook        Ahh, I think it was someone misusing the term "SFX"
03:36 eythian      heh
03:35 dcook        One of those moments where you want to query all your databases at once..
03:34 * dcook      pokes around for a minute
03:34 dcook        I keep thinking we have someone using a link resolver..
03:34 eythian      This is for an RFT and they are terribly, extremely vauge about everything.
03:34 * dcook      ponders
03:34 eythian      yeah, that's what I'd expect.
03:34 dcook        Then the link resolver does the heavy lifting in the background.
03:33 dcook        Really what you need is something like a system preference for the link resolver, and then to generate this data per record/result, and stick it all together, I think
03:33 dcook        yep
03:33 eythian      yeah
03:33 eythian      I think what that span thing does is allow things like zotero to scrape data from koha
03:33 dcook        I think COinS might use the OpenURL data model, but isn't actually usable by a link resolver since it isn't pointing to the link resolver
03:32 eythian      Good, I'm pretty hazy on the details here.
03:32 dcook        Ah, I think I getcha
03:32 dcook        ?
03:31 eythian      I think we'd need it for linking to, or something like that.
03:31 eythian      ah, so that's for outgoing information.
03:30 eythian      I don't know really what the difference/similarities are
03:30 dcook        Same diff
03:30 eythian      also openurl I think
03:30 dcook        That one looks like a COinS
03:29 pastebot     "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "opac-basket.tt" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/9
03:28 dcook        Btw, eythian, check out opac-basket.tt
03:28 dcook        Easy enough to do with a customized XSLT I suppose, but it doesn't look supported by the community
03:25 dcook        Might be in the XSLT as well somewhere somehow..
03:25 dcook        Looks like this was pre-XSLT
03:24 dcook        in C4::Biblio
03:24 dcook        GetCOinSBiblio
03:21 eythian      yeah, I can't see anything about how actually to _do_ it.
03:20 dcook        Mmm
03:19 dcook        Don't really remember too much anymore though :p
03:19 dcook        Mmm, read a lot about it a year or two ago
03:18 eythian      http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Koha-and-openURL-link-resolver-td5754761.html <-- apparently we can support this
03:17 eythian      anyone know how OpenURL works at all?
03:17 eythian      anyone know if Koha has any OpenURL support?
03:06 pianohacker  back
02:39 dcook        gmcharlt: Going to look at that include now
02:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10964 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Update MARC21 de-DE default framework to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013)
02:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12113 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Update German web Installer for 3.16
02:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.15.00.052: mark Koha 3.16 RC
02:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12275 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Small corrections to English web installer
02:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: update release notes for Koha 3.16.0-rc
02:30 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10964: Update German default bibliographic and authority frameworks
02:30 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10964: Update German simple and fast add frameworks
02:30 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 12113: Update German web installer for 3.16
02:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12168 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Spent and ordered budget values are wrong if deep > 2
02:30 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 12275: Small corrections to English web installer
02:30 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 12168: (follow-up) correct typos in test descriptions
02:30 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12168: Add unit tests for GetBudgetHierarchySpent & GetBudgetHierarchyOrdered
02:30 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 12168: fix spent and ordered budget values are wrong when depth >= 2
02:30 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1758: SUCCESS in 2 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1758/
01:51 talljoy      goodnight all
01:51 talljoy      i need sleep and then coffee.
01:51 talljoy      well, not much i can do with this tonight.  i'm flummoxed.
01:49 talljoy      ha
01:49 pianohacker  talljoy go to bed
01:49 * dcook      was going crazy wondering why his JS wasn't working until he noticed one...
01:48 dcook        Javascript errors in the browser console are the best
01:48 talljoy      hmm  that's something i hadn't thought of
01:47 eythian      javascript errors in the browser console?
01:47 talljoy      any idea if this would show up in an error log file somewheres?
01:47 talljoy      well it's just weird that it does 'nothing'
01:47 dcook        Alas, no idea about the merge button with authorities. Haven't played at all with that yet myself
01:47 talljoy      mmm...cupcakes
01:46 dcook        Just had some of those cupcakes last night :)
01:46 talljoy      it looks fab!
01:46 dcook        I'd recommend those recipes. Her food is delicious :).
01:45 talljoy      i'm thinking there are some *too* silent errors going on.
01:45 talljoy      i've got a library on 3.14.x and the merge button is on authorities, but clicking it does *nothing*
01:45 talljoy      i know at this time of day, i'm missing the authority expert, but I've got a weird thing going on with merging authorities.
01:44 talljoy      there were some good lookin recipes i want to try
01:44 talljoy      well blgo.... ick
01:44 dcook        eythian: She can be aggressive in her love of food :p
01:44 dcook        She loves writing it\
01:44 eythian      nobody likes her blgo.
01:44 dcook        Awesome! I'll be sure to tell her that :)
01:43 talljoy      blog that is
01:43 talljoy      hey dcook.  i'm digging your wife's blgo
01:42 dcook        yo talljoy
01:42 talljoy      good evening koha
01:40 dcook        Damn. Hate when you can only remember a few words to a song, and they're such common words that you can find many many songs...but not the one that you want
01:34 dcook        Yata!
01:22 dcook        Admittedly, Datatables.js could be written better. It's interesting that modern browsers just gloss over it
01:19 * eythian    deprecates IE
01:12 dcook        And that Javascript doesn't work in IE 8 because there IE 8 doesn't like Datatables.js...
01:12 dcook        Drycona: Sweet :)
00:49 Dyrcona      dcook: My daughter's school did a theatrical adaptation of Treasure Island just last week.
00:44 dcook        Because .submit doesn't work in IE 8..
00:31 dcook        Hmm, no receipt printing for IE 8 still..
00:30 dcook        PS Started reading Treasure Island yesterday during lunch...actually rather compelling read so far :p
00:29 dcook        Thar she blows..
00:28 dcook        Pop-up blocker fun times
00:27 dcook        Err "security"
00:27 dcook        Ohh...this might be a security thing..
00:27 eythian      it helps if you set it on fire.
00:27 dcook        As much as I would like to write off IE, it's just not going to happen :p
00:26 dcook        Hmm, of course IE still doesn't work for the SCO...
00:25 dcook        I'm going to start with the self-checkout and work backwards. I wonder if there are other places in the OPAC that have auto print as well..
00:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1758 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:24 dcook        I thought that might be the case. Hehe.
00:24 gmcharlt     dcook: insurance against future browser weirdness
00:21 dcook        wizzyrea: This always makes me think of you -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Sxv-sUYtM
00:20 dcook        gmcharlt: Why might you want to override that function with IntranetSlipPrinterJS?
00:20 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11404 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , add out-of-the-box support for Apache 2.4
00:20 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 11404: (follow-up) only ask user if there are instances needing upgrading
00:20 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11404: Make the install process aware of the changes
00:20 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11404: koha-functions.sh introduced for reuse
00:20 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11404: add support for Apache 2.4's config file convention
00:20 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12288 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Search Errors with AggressiveMatchOnISBN turned on
00:20 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 12288: (follow-up) test for defined values
00:20 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12288: fix search errors with AggressiveMatchOnISBN turned on
00:20 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 12288: add regression test
00:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1757: SUCCESS in 2 hr 23 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1757/
00:20 gmcharlt     dcook: namely because there are a bunch of pages that want to autoprint but which do not respect IntranetSlipPrinterJS
00:19 dcook        Hmm
00:19 gmcharlt     eythian++
00:19 gmcharlt     s/busy/inclined to be busy/
00:19 pastebot     "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "dcook: if you're feeling busy, this whole bit should probably be factored into a template include and used across the board" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/8
00:18 eythian      https://twitter.com/slfritchie/status/468302135457636352
00:18 dcook        Sweet as. I'll start playing now.
00:17 gmcharlt     please do; assuming it's good enough, using taht as the new default printThenClose() should probably make it into 3.16
00:16 dcook        Well, I have a few minutes to check this out more thoroughly.
00:13 dcook        I remember causing a sporadic problem in Firefox when using a timer..
00:13 dcook        I keep thinking that still has a problem...but I can't recall what.
00:13 dcook        Yeah, that would be the one
00:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11014 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Slip Print Problem in Chrome
00:12 gmcharlt     bug 11014
00:10 dcook        I think Galen or Liz might've fixed the Chrome thing using a timer for 3.16...
00:10 dcook        I think it's because the Javascript closes the pop-up window too early. At least, that's what I recall happening in the past.
00:09 dcook        Will have to look at that in a bit...
00:09 dcook        At least for the patron record. Don't know about the self-checkout.
00:09 dcook        pianohacker: In the case of Chrome, it's because they use their custom print instead of the system dialog
00:09 pianohacker  weeeeeird
00:09 dcook        Chrome can't print anything from the self checkout or patron record
00:09 dcook        Well, you can print receipts from the staff client in IE, but the self checkout doesn't print slips
00:08 pianohacker  dcook: the automatic printing fails, or what?
00:08 pianohacker  that's odd...
00:08 dcook        Doesn't seem to work in any other browser but Firefox :p
00:08 dcook        Firefox and receipt printing does seem to work sufficiently, pianohacker :p