Time Nick Message
23:47 * dcook shudders
23:45 pianohacker I wonder how rancor would look in IE 7
23:43 dcook Yikes
23:43 eythian yeah, it used to be the cataloguing page took about a minute to render in IE.
23:42 dcook Well, worse in some ways, better in others
23:42 dcook Actually, newer versions of IE do tend to perform better at least
23:42 dcook I suppose mild is a bit relative :p
23:35 eythian Some can't, and they accept a mildy degraded interface.
23:35 eythian dcook: we tell them that it'll mostly work with IE, but some things not as well. They usually talk their IT into giving them firefox.
23:35 pianohacker dcook: (but yes, they do. My sympathies.)
23:35 pianohacker < dcook> pianohacker: firefox firefox firefox firefox
23:34 eythian dcook: well, we as catalyst do, but I think that it might be the k-c position as well.
23:34 dcook pianohacker: Alas, hospitals run with pretty old proprietary stuff...
23:34 dcook "We" as in Catalyst or Koha-Comm?
23:34 pianohacker dcook: I can't hear you over the sound of my firefox shirt
23:33 eythian and recommend firefox
23:33 eythian I think we tend to say that IE's not officially supported for the staff client.
23:33 dcook Doesn't work so hot in Chrome either though :/
23:33 eythian yep
23:32 dcook Also IE just plain sucks..
23:29 dcook But that's why's I tries to fix it
23:29 * dcook grumbles a bit more about the quote editor being buggy as
23:25 rangi gmcharlt++
23:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev 3.15.00.052: mark Koha 3.16 RC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d767a0977180e1989b66f8edd168314f6f0af72> / update release notes for Koha 3.16.0-rc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fff8ae56c49cd33f2655a4a00cff2ef51854c8e1>
23:18 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
23:18 rangi @later tell tcohen new question here http://koha-community.org/kohacon/kohacon14/schedule/
23:17 * dcook likes eythian's weaseling in 12252
23:11 eythian sure
23:11 bag yeah if that's cool with you - I'd like to have khall along and we could just do IRC to make it simple
23:11 eythian That sounds uncivilised, though I suppose I could do it from home.
23:10 bag hmm does 8am on your Thursday work for a quick chat?
23:10 bag ok so you are 20 hours ahead of me
23:10 bag ah thanks :)
23:09 bag it's 4pm here
23:09 bag no clue what that is
23:09 eythian the time here is 11:09am :)
23:09 eythian bag: the time there id 2014-05-19 16:09:10 -0700
23:08 bag hey eythian what time is it there?
23:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10964: Update German default bibliographic and authority frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e0fb1cb2d0dd29724c63c9b831694bc3233e540> / Bug 10964: Update German simple and fast add frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c609e5627103883c34812a43999f36ec5eb88b1a>
23:04 bag yeah - so really good time thankfully - so I didn't waste too much of your time
23:03 gmcharlt yeah, a "patch already applied"
23:02 bag must have been easy on your end to catch it - since the patch I put up - was probably the last that you pushed - giving you some conflicts?
23:02 bag gmcharlt++
23:02 gmcharlt bag: be very, very careful when lopping off HEADs! :-P
23:01 bag :P
23:01 bag did a HEAD^ at the wrong time
23:01 gmcharlt thanks
23:01 bag ok there we go gmcharlt should be good now
22:57 bag one sec
22:57 bag I did
22:56 gmcharlt IOW, I'm not seeing the QAed 'Update German default bibliograhpic and authority frameowkrs'
22:56 bag damn
22:56 gmcharlt bag: I believe you attached the wrong second patch to 10964
22:55 eythian erk we really really need to split OAI-PMH into a series of modules, not loading them all in opac/oai.pl.
22:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, In Discussion , OAI-PMH GetRecord result doesn't include item data
22:53 eythian gmcharlt: I weaseled out of your second issue on bug 12252, hope you don't mind :)
22:53 gmcharlt ok
22:53 bag there should be 2 patches
22:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10964 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Update MARC21 de-DE default framework to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013)
22:52 bag gmcharlt: if you are on bug 10964 I obseleted too many patches with my last bz attach - I've corrected that now
22:42 pianohacker jcamins: Could I ask you an idle question about t/www/batch.t? I'm working on some webservice tests for my field session project, and I was curious why t/www/batch.t used KOHA_INTRANET_URL rather that staffClientBaseURL.
22:41 eythian hmm OK.
22:37 pianohacker eythian: Ah, it does some similar magic which seems to assume that 'die' is safe (see after 'sub new ...' in http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/MIYAGAWA/CGI-Compile-0.16/lib/CGI/Compile.pm)
22:35 eythian (calling exit, that is.)
22:35 pianohacker eythian: I'll continue forward with that then, thanks.
22:34 eythian I have tried and failed to see what it actually does, but it doesn't seem to actually cause problems.
22:34 pianohacker eythian: I couldn't find any reference to it in any of the Plack libraries, so I don't think so *shrug*
22:34 eythian pianohacker: it seems to be, yes
22:34 eythian I'm not aware if it does any magic (it might)
22:34 eythian oh, that psgi:exit thing in C4::Auth is just a string
22:33 pianohacker eythian: Is it safe, at least, to call plain 'exit' from within a Plackified script?
22:33 pianohacker curses!
22:33 eythian pianohacker: you can try, though I don't know anything about psgi:exit off the top of my head sorry ;)
22:33 bag yay!
22:33 pianohacker eythian: hi. Could I ambush you with a quick Plack question?
22:32 wahanui eythian is an expert bot trainer
22:32 bag heya eythian
22:32 bag ah thanks gmcharlt
22:31 eythian hi
22:24 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12113: Update German web installer for 3.16 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36135f2d5646d91a46dcebed947fdcca8f336dfd> / Bug 12275: Small corrections to English web installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ab0b36c04512ce50aa6ba9728e30cda9bb7e98d>
22:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12168: (follow-up) correct typos in test descriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1387c65c0d344ad49206f6e181990e704a542d26> / Bug 12168: Add unit tests for GetBudgetHierarchySpent & GetBudgetHierarchyOrdered <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd36f80e2ccfe64c59648543997778b295959a4d> / Bug 12168: fix spent and ordered budget values are wrong when depth >
22:11 gmcharlt bag: MARC21 update #17 by the Library of Congress
22:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10964 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Update MARC21 de-DE default framework to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013)
22:11 bag gmcharlt: what is Update Nr. 17 (September 2013) on bug 10964
21:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #1757 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:55 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation update for 3.16.00 release
21:55 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12244 - followup to fix tabs
21:55 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update Acq Help for 3.16
21:55 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update Admin Help for 3.16
21:55 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update authorized values help for 3.16
21:55 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update Notices Help Files
21:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12244 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Help Files for Koha 3.16
21:55 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update Search Help for 3.16
21:55 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update cataloging help for 3.16
21:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9612 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , SRU Response is different when DOM indexing is enabled
21:55 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update Patron help files for 3.16
21:55 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Koha 3.16 Circ Help Updates
21:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7841 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Several warnings on language from webinstaller
21:55 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9612: (follow-up) restore elementSetName in Context.pm
21:55 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 7841: quell warnings in C4::Languages
21:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7841: add a direct regression test
21:55 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 7841: add unit tests to detect no functional changes to getTranslatedLanguages()
21:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12271 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , valid-templates.t does not test bootstrap opac templates
21:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 12271: (follow-up) fix minor errors in Bootstrap theme
21:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 12271: (follow-up) teach valid-templates.t how to include specified templates
21:55 jenkins_koha * Fridolin Somers: Bug 12271: add Bootstrap templates to valid-templates.t tests
21:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1756: SUCCESS in 2 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1756/
21:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11404: (follow-up) only ask user if there are instances needing upgrading <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c5f927689c24323128e88cfa26ffe9adcfbd832> / Bug 11404: Make the install process aware of the changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=624c953b354a21f556ed499726d233dead6aa40f> / Bug 11404: koha-functions.sh introduced for reuse <http://git.koha-communi
21:51 cait good night all
21:21 pianohacker gmcharlt: will confirm with someone more familiar before I submit, but moving forward for the moment
21:20 gmcharlt pianohacker: ok
21:20 huginn 04Bug 7829: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, CLOSED FIXED, reports/ remove all exit(1) for plack
21:20 pianohacker gmcharlt: It seems from things like http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7829 that plain exit is kosher with plack
20:57 bag oh rangi is lurking now - he could have a thought
20:57 pianohacker eythian: ^
20:57 bag he's been hacking on plack recently and should be able to help you right quick
20:57 bag hey pianohacker ask eythian
20:57 pianohacker *that Auth.pm does
20:57 pianohacker is the 'psgi:exit' trick that Auth.pm something standard/exportable? Can't find documentation for it in the Plack stuff
20:45 bag thanks
20:45 bag awesome good idea
20:42 gmcharlt it suggests a work-around
20:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12025 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Inventory tool fails with "Could not reads headers", or sometimes a timeout
20:42 gmcharlt bag: please see the comment I added to bug 12025
20:30 bag heh
20:30 bag darn it morning
20:30 bag mornign rangi
20:29 bag right ok yes I was getting there :) sweet gmcharlt thanks
20:29 rangi *nod*
20:28 gmcharlt and sort of thing that would have slipped past testers' small toy databases :(
20:28 rangi morning btw
20:28 rangi ouch
20:27 gmcharlt as it has the effective of running a report of pretty much all items in the system if you upload a file of barcodes
20:27 gmcharlt or rather, the patches for it
20:26 gmcharlt bag: it looks pretty clear it's the fault of that bug
20:11 huginn 04Bug 7684: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , inventory : datatable fix actions etc.
20:11 bag I was going through this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7684 to see what in there maybe contributing
20:10 bag khall stepped away for the day so I was going to have him take a look at it first thing
20:09 bag but I am not sure on how to "see" it on the server when it's happening
20:08 bag at least the they've uploaded the barcode file and that happens
20:08 bag yes three sites confirmed
20:07 gmcharlt bag: are you seeing it?
20:05 bag anybody got any ideas on that bug? Something for me to chase?
20:05 huginn 04Bug 12025: critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Inventory tool fails with "Could not reads headers", or sometimes a timeout
20:05 bag http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12025
20:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12288: (follow-up) test for defined values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d9c413c42dc124c7ef26c779c2c0758b4735ae4> / Bug 12288: fix search errors with AggressiveMatchOnISBN turned on <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=833eef4e08b7e8891c86b5e898c43f3aaeab6ff5> / Bug 12288: add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=
19:55 taylorSchmidt okay cool
19:55 gmcharlt taylorSchmidt: that's reasonable
19:55 taylorSchmidt gmcharlt: while it wouldn't test some of the routing and URL dispatch stuff, maybe, to reuse the existing setup/teardown functionality, just call Koha::Service::Holds manually with some test data from inside Reserves.t?
19:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #1756 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
19:49 gmcharlt taylorSchmidt: my suggestion: don't do that :) IOW, if it's necessary to access an external web service, write a separate test file that manages its own tear-down of test data, if it can't use a DB tranaction
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11732 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Eliminate warning on undefined branchcode
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11202 enhancement, P4, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Stable , Improve UNIMARC biblio indexing
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10544 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , stocknumber index is an alias of Number-local-acquisition
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11644 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Cannot update fund if total is equal to amount unallocated
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11777 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Pushed to Stable , Created by name is not coming in order receiving page
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11783 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Record level unavailable holds sending empty CD field rather than item barcode
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11779 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Unexpected change in logged in branch when changing overdue notice triggers
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11784 minor, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Patron images broken in Self checkout
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11740 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use new DataTables include in quotes upload template
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11767 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use validation plugin when creating new authority framework tag
19:48 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11732: Eliminate warning on undefined branchcode
19:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11202: (follow-up) update number of expected tests for t/QueryParser.t
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Use validation plugin when creating new authority type
19:48 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11202: FIX UT for QueryParser.t
19:48 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11202: Improve UNIMARC biblio indexing
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11749 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused jQuery plugin jquery.hoverIntent.minified.js from the staff client
19:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10544: (follow-up) update MARC21 DOM index definitions
19:48 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544 - add Number-local-acquisition in QueryParser config
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11771 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use validation plugin when creating new MARC framework tag
19:48 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544: add Number-local-acquisition in known indexes
19:48 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544: ensure that stocknumber searches work for MARC21
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11756 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Hold ratios report sorting incorrectly
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11730 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , C4::Charset call C4::Context without use it
19:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11644: (follow-up) add FIXME
19:48 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11644: fix occasional failure to update fund amount due to floating-point math
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Excessive and often incorrect use of finish in C4::Acquisitions
19:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11777: add regression test
19:48 jenkins_koha * Amit Gupta: Bug 11777: ensure "created by" is displayed by the order receiving page
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11743 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused DataTables plugin from OPAC theme directories
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11773 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Crash 'undefined value as a HASH' in sco-main.pl
19:48 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11783: ensure CD field in SIP patron information response is populated
19:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11779: (follow-up) improve GetLoggedInBranchcode() and add test cases
19:48 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11779: fix unexpected change in logged-in library when changing overdue notice triggers
19:48 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 11784 - fix displaying patron images in self checkout
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11765 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused function isDate from templates
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11764 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Move repeatedly redefined function toUC() into staff-global.js
19:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11740 - Use new DataTables include in quotes upload template
19:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11767 - Use validation plugin when creating new authority framework tag
19:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11766 - Use validation plugin when creating new authority type
19:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11749 - Remove unused jQuery plugin jquery.hoverIntent.minified.js from the staff client
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11628 normal, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , staffaccess permission is missing in french userflags.sql file
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11748 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused jquery.uitablefilter.js plugin
19:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11771 - Use validation plugin when creating new MARC framework tag
19:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11756: improve default sorting on hold ratios report
19:48 jenkins_koha * Stéphane Delaune: Bug 11730: ensure that C4::Charset loads C4::Context
19:48 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10789: Follow-up: restored second SQL parameter in GetLastOrderReceivedFromSubscriptionid
19:48 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10789: Follow-up: Fix typo "infermation"
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11757 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , dependency on POE is not longer necessary
19:48 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 10789: Remove unnecessary calls to $sth->finish in C4::Acquisitions
19:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11743 - Remove unused DataTables plugin from OPAC theme directories
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11735 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use new DataTables include in calendar template
19:48 jenkins_koha * Marc Veron: Bug 11773: fix crash in sco-main.pl if no active currency is set
19:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11765 - Remove unused function isDate from templates
19:48 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11764 - Move repeatedly redefined function toUC() into staff-global.js
19:47 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11628: add missing staffaccess permission to French userflags.sql file
19:47 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11748 - Remove unused jquery.uitablefilter.js plugin
19:47 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11757: remove dependency on POE
19:47 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11735 - Use new DataTables include in calendar template
19:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #40: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/40/
19:47 wahanui any ideas are welcome :)
19:47 taylorSchmidt any ideas?
19:47 taylorSchmidt We're trying to add unit tests for a web service API to t/db_dependent/Reserves.t, and the fact that it creates its own transaction prevents us from just accessing the API through a URL (as that happens in another process)
19:19 gmcharlt yep
19:19 magnuse couple more days then :-)
19:19 magnuse cool
19:18 gmcharlt magnuse: I will be requesting another pull of translations prior to cutting the final release on Thursday
19:15 magnuse is there a deadline for translations?
19:09 cait :)
19:06 gmcharlt but later today
19:06 gmcharlt not quite yet, I expect a few more bugfixes and non-string-changy things
19:02 cait that looks like release time :)
19:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Translation update for 3.16.00 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ceb017765fc3430f188b5cbdd71d994c15359508>
18:13 gmcharlt http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze is a good place to start, assumin g you have a Debian machine available
18:11 edda i need help about install koha online host
18:11 edda ok
18:10 gmcharlt what's your question?
18:10 gmcharlt wahanui is a bot, not a real person
18:07 edda ?
18:07 jenkins_koha Starting build #40 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
18:07 edda hi wahanui, may I ask a question
18:07 wahanui hola, edda
18:07 edda hello
18:06 eda hi
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12243 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Records with invalid ISBNs can cause searches to fail
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12240 normal, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Update of Italian SQL files (no marc setup) - 3.16
18:05 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12243: ensure that records with invalid ISBNs do not cause searches to fail
18:05 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 12243: add regression test
18:05 jenkins_koha * Koha SAB CINECA: Bug 12240 - update of Italian SQL files (non-MARC setup)
18:05 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1755: FIXED in 2 hr 21 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1755/
18:05 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
18:05 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed!
18:03 eda may I ask a question
18:03 huginn eda: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
18:03 eda @wahanui
18:03 wahanui bonjour, eda
18:03 eda HI
17:58 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
17:58 magnuse never mind
17:57 paxed not off the top of my head, sorry.
17:57 magnuse paxed: do you know what perl module(s) they are using?
17:56 magnuse hehe, madify was a nice typo there ;-)
17:55 paxed that's how evergreen does it.
17:54 oleonard [% l('Translate %s and %s'), this, that %] ?
17:53 paxed modify*
17:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12221 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, NEW , Remove TT statement placeholders from translatable strings
17:53 paxed it would be. bug 12221 would help a bit, but then you'd have to madify some templates to produce sensible sentences instead of sentence fragment.
17:52 * magnuse sometimes wonders if it would be better to explicitly mark strings for translation, like [% l('Translate me') %]
17:43 oleonard Yeah the translation system doesn't actually know how T:T works, it's pretty messed up.
17:39 magnuse i'll leave it in and see what happens
17:39 pianohacker joy
17:39 magnuse it comes from the marc modification templates
17:38 magnuse lol
17:38 pianohacker from wt-FF
17:38 pianohacker you should start by translating to en-US
17:38 pianohacker yes, it should
17:38 JesseM gah
17:38 magnuse is that supposed to be translated or not?
17:38 magnuse %s %s %s %s if %s %s unless %s %s%s$%s%s %s exists %s %s does not exist %s %s matches %s %s does not match %s %s RegEx m/%s
17:38 magnuse gah
17:38 magnuse :-)
17:37 * JesseM waves at magnuse
17:37 magnuse welcome back JesseM
17:32 * cait waves
17:19 pianohacker pianohacker: HI
17:18 bag magnuse: HI
17:18 magnuse bag: HI
17:01 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12244 - followup to fix tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a23c452b334c05249de4298ae971b2331a5b6ded> / Bug 12244 - Update Acq Help for 3.16 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0bc18951c7857885e1b12b445de039bf6d55d98> / Bug 12244 - Update Admin Help for 3.16 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a990de106d7e00d6af2c8cd8e71e16c1f6f
16:58 huginn khall: The operation succeeded.
16:58 khall @later tell rangi would you take a look at bug 8352 and give me your thoughts? I've implemented a new printer CRUD interface and added the ability to use CUPS printers as well as supporting Net::Printer.
16:51 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9612: (follow-up) restore elementSetName in Context.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb2345a3021116d94c74fb989cb65b156fbd646f> / Bug 7841: quell warnings in C4::Languages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd3cab4a9356c9ce5b1e659ff64536ce3d5ca462> / Bug 7841: add a direct regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4af3
16:47 gmcharlt no
16:47 vfernandes koha 3.14 OPAC supports federated searches?
16:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12271: (follow-up) fix minor errors in Bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bafeb881c99142fd3abf507a3c5bcddd2c12932a> / Bug 12271: (follow-up) teach valid-templates.t how to include specified templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b97e691ef87bf3fd89f38ba0b1772d8fcac44b33> / Bug 12271: add Bootstrap templates to valid-templates.t tests <http:
16:01 mtompset Have a great day, #koha cait druthb bag
15:59 mtompset Blip. Silly VM upgrade.
15:54 druthb busy weekend, but a good one. And seeing mah friends here. :P
15:53 mtompset Okay. Why are you wriggling happily, druthb?
15:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12243: ensure that records with invalid ISBNs do not cause searches to fail <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a18ce86e83740a58e9c10a2f99354a8b84d9a8bd> / Bug 12243: add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59c569ce92a72dc6d60a16e76fb8c4eebc741fcc>
15:50 * druthb wriggles happily
15:50 cait hi druthb :)
15:50 mtompset Greetings, druthb.
15:49 druthb Hiya bag, cait, mtompset. :)
15:49 mtompset Why is writing test code so de-motivating?
15:49 cait hi mtompset
15:49 bag heya
15:48 mtompset Greetings, #koha cait bag
15:46 bag heh
15:46 cait heh
15:46 bag sure that looks pretty :)
15:46 cait all records
15:46 bag Alle Datensätze
15:46 cait probably
15:46 bag some of them look fine and nice and simple - but I guess I'm going to just have to trust that you are using the correct German word?
15:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #1755 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1753 6 days 1 hr ago)
15:45 cait bag: awesome - thx :)
15:43 bag cool I will look
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11739 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use new DataTables include in notices template
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11737 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use new DataTables include in quotes management template
15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11652 minor, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Stable , merging authority records does not correct biblios
15:43 cait bag: i have 3 patches in the signed off list waiting .)
15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11704 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Wrong headers in {opac|intranet}/svc/report
15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11670 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove sorting from patron lists action columns
15:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11739 - Use new DataTables include in notices template
15:42 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11737: (follow-up) remove extra fnReloadAjax.js
15:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11721 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use new DataTables include in suggestions template
15:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11737 - Use new DataTables include in quotes management template
15:42 jenkins_koha * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 11652: ensure that merging authority records corrects biblios
15:42 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11704: Make */svc/report print the correct headers
15:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11670 - Remove sorting from patron lists action columns
15:42 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11721 - Use new DataTables include in suggestions template
15:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #39: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/39/
15:40 reiveune bye
15:39 bag heh
15:39 bag cait: web intaller updates?
15:39 wahanui somebody said morning was a state of cat
15:39 bag morning
15:31 cait *hides*
15:31 cait i need a qa person to look at my web intaller updates...
15:31 cait btw
15:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12240 - update of Italian SQL files (non-MARC setup) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15e78498ac14dc28b3adf73ffda7938d1d47f9cb>
15:21 ashimema Well, if those instructions are being hadned around to the world.. I suppose I better put them somewhere usefull on the wiki, instead of hidden under my username.
15:17 jcamins vfernandes: that looks right to me. Very similar to what I have. But I can't troubleshoot right now.
15:12 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MRenvoize/zebra
15:12 cait i think these are the newest instructions
15:11 vfernandes cait i've already look at wiki
15:11 cait i haven't donee that yet, so probably can#t help much
15:10 wahanui okay, cait.
15:10 cait i think there are also notes on the wiki
15:10 cait vfernandes: maybe take a look at how someone else added a new index to the dom indexing
14:35 vfernandes look at http://paste.koha-community.org/5
14:35 vfernandes jcamins I added one index for 942$c but nothing is happening
14:32 jcamins Zebra uses the latter, which is generated from the former.
14:23 vfernandes with DOM indexing which is the used file? biblio-koha-indexdefs or biblio-zebra-indexdefs?
14:01 jenkins_koha Starting build #39 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
14:01 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 18.6°C (9:01 AM CDT on May 19, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
14:01 rambutan @wunder 64507
13:54 cait oleonard: ouch.
13:36 oleonard If anyone cares, I had to install the "Addon Bar (restored)" addon to Firefox 29 in order to be able to see the KOCT addon
13:35 vfernandes any help on my problem?
13:22 cait add on sidebar maybe
13:22 cait i don't know how they are called in english i realize
13:21 cait hm did you try turningon the ... menu?
13:20 oleonard Can't seem to access the KOCT addon in Firefox 29. Can't find it.
13:03 * oleonard brb
12:42 magnuse kia ora paul_p
12:38 oleonard Hi paul_p
12:38 paul_p hello #koha
12:34 magnuse kia ora oleonard
12:17 oleonard Hi #koha
11:45 Viktor I did it using opacuserjs, but TinyCMS looked like a bit cleaner way of doing this(?)
11:45 Viktor (Not all there but lets you display tabs without losing the header with login and stuff)
11:44 Viktor I did the following tabs based on Owens code on his blog http://hylte.demo.bibkat.no
11:44 Viktor And while we're on the subject of opacuserjs - does TinyCMS still work with the new Bootstrap theme?
11:42 Viktor Thanks!
11:42 Viktor Sweet - works great :)
11:39 vfernandes Viktor put the code on opacuserjs
11:39 * Viktor waves to magnuse
11:39 * magnuse waves to Viktor
11:39 Viktor jcamins++
11:38 Viktor Does it go inte the regular script container in admin?
11:38 Viktor Yay - thanks!
11:37 jcamins Viktor: $("#descriptions").insertAfter($("#catalogue_detail_biblio")); $("#descriptions").removeClass('ui-tabs-panel ui-tabs-hide'); $("#tab_descriptions").remove();
11:37 Viktor :)
11:36 jcamins Probably.
11:36 jcamins Viktor: I don't know.
11:36 vfernandes no problem cait :)
11:36 cait sorry vfernandes... went off for lunch
11:36 Viktor jcamins Did you put the script on a blog somewhere?
11:36 vfernandes Viktor jquery is the aswer :)
11:35 jcamins Viktor: I just use jQuery.
11:35 * Viktor waves at cait
11:35 * cait waves at Viktor
11:34 Viktor Today when people scroll tabs inside pages just increases the interaction cost.
11:34 Viktor I just wonder if people love them or if they are just left from old times when people didn't scroll
11:33 Viktor I could change them to regular divs i guess, but they are nested as a list so I would have to think for several minutes before touching those :)
11:32 vfernandes Viktor maybe you can use javascript and jquery to remove those tabs
11:31 jcamins Viktor: FWIW, I have a client that has the title notes visible directly rather than in a tab.
11:31 vfernandes if anyone could help me in this question :)
11:29 Viktor How do people feel about hiding great content like "Title notices" and "Comments" in tabs in the Opac? Could the tabs be removed and the full content displayed at once?
11:29 gaetan_B bye!
11:28 Viktor Greetings!
11:26 vfernandes I think they are correct
11:25 vfernandes these are my modifications to the indexing files
11:25 pastebot "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Modifications" (28 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/5
11:20 vfernandes not worked :/
10:43 vfernandes trying again... reindexing all :)
10:43 vfernandes ok
10:43 mtj_ vfernandes: yes
10:40 vfernandes after changing the files?
10:40 vfernandes do I have to restart zebra?
10:37 vfernandes i've reindexed all records
10:37 vfernandes i tried to add some lines to record.abs, biblio-zebra-indexdefs and biblio-koha-indexdefs
10:23 wahanui the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
10:23 cait vfernandes: what's the problem?
10:23 vfernandes after some time trying, I can't put the 942$c as itemtype index
10:22 vfernandes hello
10:14 ashimema I see.. thanks khall
10:13 khall it seems that an isbn not being "bad" isn't a good enough check, there are other types of badness that can cause issues. Whoever wrote businesss::isbn made some off decisions about that
10:12 huginn 04Bug 12243: critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Records with invalid ISBNs can cause searches to fail
10:12 khall ashimema: I bet this will fix the issue: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12243
10:11 ashimema khall: We're getting allot of 'Can't call method "fix_checksum" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/Business/ISBN13.pm line 78.' when using the command line stage_file.pl with your ISBN clever matching stuff turned on.. anything you've seen before?
10:10 magnuse gah, it's lunch time already!!
10:10 magnuse baby waking you up early?
10:09 khall mornin magnuse et al!
10:08 * magnuse waves to khall
09:59 cait cool :)
09:58 * paxed codes it, then.
09:58 paxed ah. ok.
09:58 cait currently not for the totals, only for single lines I think :(
09:57 paxed slip
09:57 cait prnt as a slip? or in overdue notices?
09:57 paxed there's no easy way to print patron's fines, is there?
09:52 magnuse what she said :-)
09:52 cait you are not bothering us i think, it's just we can#t help much fixing problems there... other than confirming we remember the bug :(
09:51 nlegrand :D
09:50 magnuse nlegrand: as long as you are asking about migrating from 3.2 it will be ok i think ;-)
09:50 nlegrand I really appreciate the kindness of #koha community :)
09:50 nlegrand ho thanks :) I'm already a bit ashamed to ask questions about 3.2, I will try not to bother all of you too much ^^
09:49 cait we will try to help if we can
09:49 ashimema :)
09:48 cait :)
09:48 nlegrand I'll bring champagne to the next kohafest if everything went well :)
09:48 nlegrand It will be horrible, and nasty, but I really really want to do it :)
09:47 ashimema :)
09:47 nlegrand <3
09:47 cait but it will be alright :) *optimistic*
09:47 nlegrand cait: exactly
09:46 cait a lesson any libraries learned the hard way i think
09:46 nlegrand now we want to get out of the bubble :)
09:46 nlegrand the BULAC was thrilled by the oppurtunity of customising, but did it in a bubble
09:46 nlegrand ashimema: yes
09:46 ashimema highly customised?
09:45 nlegrand I mean staying near last versions which is moving twice a year ^^
09:45 ashimema why such an old version nlegrand?
09:45 magnuse nlegrand: good plan :-)
09:45 nlegrand cait: my goal is to be very near community version as soon as possible and stay there :)
09:45 cait nlegrand: i think i remember seeing something likethat with diacritics in callnumbers and notes
09:44 nlegrand cait: yes :)
09:44 nlegrand nice :)
09:44 cait nlegrand: 3.2 is really old by now :(
09:44 cait nlegrand: i thik that got fixed
09:44 nlegrand eythian: sure, but my version is funnier, cause if I save my biblio records twenty time in a row, each non ascii char has been replaced by 1048576 creepy character :) it's squared-encoded UTF8 ^^
09:42 eythian it's probably fixed in post3.2 versions
09:42 eythian double-encoded UTF8
09:42 eythian that's a known thing all over the internet
09:42 nlegrand otherwise it may be our super customised koha ^^
09:41 nlegrand is it a known old bug? :)
09:41 nlegrand I had a weird bug lately on my 3.2, whenever I save the biblio records, some open field in the items are over encoded, eg 'Dépôt' becomes 'Dépôt légal' and the more you save, the weirder it gets, until you edit the items, it displays anything fine, save it, and it's fixed
09:37 eythian later
09:37 eythian yep, time to head off.
09:37 eythian oh, my rebuild_elasticsearch.pl is 129 lines long, of which about 40% is documentation. Compare that to rebuild_zebra ;)
09:36 * magnuse thinks eythian deserves some rest now
09:35 eythian oh, it does need unit tests, but apis are evolving a bit still.
09:35 eythian so if you have a go and get stuck, let me know. It _should_ be well documented, but there might be something missing.
09:34 eythian btw I'm fairly keen for people to test this out, right now it's in a working state (that's not always the case :)
09:34 cait eythian: I guess you can do your bald man thing now
09:33 magnuse stitching to ES
09:33 magnuse use a kitten unicode symbol as bullet points for the facets
09:32 cait switching even ... ;)
09:32 cait so why are we stiching to ES, it gives us nothing over zebra!
09:32 eythian haha
09:32 cait when someone enters sad search terms?
09:32 eythian No kittens.
09:32 eythian No.
09:32 magnuse ooh, yes please!
09:32 cait can you make it show kittens?
09:32 cait lol
09:31 eythian any more queries before I make like a bald man and get outta hair? ;)
09:28 eythian that's exactly what I want.
09:28 magnuse http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Filters.html#section_truncate_length_dots_
09:28 eythian the latter is already done
09:27 eythian but, we probably will make it configurable to say "consider these fields as author fields for facets, and these fields as author fields for search."
09:27 magnuse true
09:27 eythian this is also important for translation
09:27 eythian (i.e. the template expects one of a handful of facet types.)
09:27 eythian so it won't be trivial to do that.
09:26 eythian magnuse: well, the template relies on knowing what to expect.
09:26 eythian yeah, I can imagine how it could do that.
09:26 magnuse eythian: will you make it configurable, e.g. an easy way to say which indexes should be used to create facets?
09:26 eythian I guess it just needs to be told the strings are UTF8 somewhere.
09:26 cait like when the umlaut would be the last displayed character... not quite
09:26 eythian I think it'd be harder to make it not UTF-8 aware than to make it break it.
09:25 cait eythian: at least in 3.12 it does, not sure if soemone fixed it
09:25 eythian cait: wow, it does that?
09:25 eythian (that is, I'm not giving it USMARC, I'm giving it a MARC::Record, so I had to account for that.)
09:25 eythian http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=C4/Search.pm;h=ed37baeade0973c4b0836910d7c4172effc29e2f;hp=18a0f5f23288b30fbcc5569cbbbf26507951bd7f;hb=67eaa90844f71ed78bab3da4722fb255cbb1ee02;hpb=84961fff9a3f39a8afe7e60015405420b3dc37be <-- this is what I had to change in C4::Search, it's assuming that it's getting USMARC
09:24 cait and for the truncation... please stop it cutting umlauts in half
09:24 eythian it's quite possible, but I'm not totally sure
09:23 * cait has a hard time readng back fast enough
09:23 cait tcohen would know
09:23 cait eythian: i think we fixed that - xml everywhere
09:23 cait :)
09:23 eythian it makes the most sense, it being display logic.
09:23 magnuse yeah, that sounds reasonable
09:22 ashimema I'de vote in favour of pushing that out to the template too
09:22 eythian http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3afc62d3e91f469e00015a545399f7d421bfab9 <-- cait, that was all the work it took to fix the case on facets :)
09:20 * eythian really doesn't like how the facet truncation for display is done in C4::Search::getRecords. I'm thinking of changing that so it's pushed all the way out to the template.
09:19 eythian Probably with minimal work (not including building the interfaces.)
09:19 eythian in that case, I think it would be quite possible.
09:19 magnuse ah, good old iso2709, will we ever be able to put you to eternal sleep?
09:18 magnuse opl will be building their own public facing interfaces, so if people want to use their rdf magic they might also want to use that
09:18 eythian at least in my dev setup, which is quite an old config
09:18 eythian Oh, I lie. It actually gets USMARC from zebra
09:18 eythian i.e. just telling Koha how to get XML out of whatever object it ends up with.
09:17 eythian I would guess it would require very minimal changes.
09:17 magnuse ah, true
09:17 magnuse so perhaps it could be done
09:17 eythian however, there's probably no reason we couldn't have an RDF specific XSLT, so long as you can produce XML from whatever you get, it'll probably work.
09:17 magnuse but opl will be transforming rdf to marc, so koha has something to chew on + for z39.50/SRU/OAI
09:16 magnuse yeah, that is a problem
09:16 eythian Koha still expects to see marc
09:16 magnuse "marcxml from zebra -> MARC::Record -> marcxml for display -> xslt" - that sounds like a lot of wasted cpu cycles...
09:16 eythian hmm.
09:15 magnuse eythian: i'll probably not get around to playing with it anytime soon. i just want to look at the possibility of koha using the es-indexed RDF from opl
09:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11687 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , statecollection.pl is unused
09:13 jenkins_koha Jonathan Druart: Bug 11687: remove disused script statecollection.pl
09:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.14.x build #38: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/38/
09:12 eythian now they're public somewhere
09:12 eythian http://www.kallisti.net.nz/~robin/catmandu-deps.tar.gz <-- magnuse, there they go
09:11 eythian (just due to laziness.)
09:10 eythian I've been making packages of everything as I go, but they're not currently public anywhere.
09:10 eythian magnuse: oh, you will probably have trouble running it unless you have all the dependencies from cpan and quite up to date.
09:09 eythian (i.e. I've totally ignored that and it works.)
09:09 eythian I just make the MARC::Record and let the existing system take care of getting it into the form for xslt.
09:09 eythian because that's how it works. In a zebra result you get marcxml back, and that becomes a MARC::Record (and then probably that's turned back into marcxml for the XSLT.)
09:08 magnuse catmandu++
09:08 magnuse how is the MARC::Record transformed to the result list then?
09:08 eythian because I'm using that :)
09:08 eythian it is exactly catmandu
09:08 magnuse that looks catmandu'ish?
09:07 magnuse ah hah?
09:07 eythian but, I'm taking "record" and converting it into a MARC::Record
09:07 eythian magnuse: that's an old version, from when I only had "title" and "biblionumber"
09:07 cait hi nlegrand :)
09:06 pastebot "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "what a record coming back from ES looks like" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/4
09:06 cait lol
09:06 nlegrand HELLO #KOHA o/
09:06 magnuse it's a format called MARCSHOUT!
09:06 cait SCREAMING SUBJECTS!
09:06 magnuse BECAUSE IT'S FUN!
09:06 cait but i guess i can't blame you for that
09:06 cait yes, than it's better, also i never understood why someone would catalog in capitals
09:06 eythian magnuse: one moment, I'll find a result record for you
09:05 cait ok :)
09:05 eythian and so ignore the messy fields.
09:05 eythian In the future we're going to say "this can be considered for faceting, this can't"
09:05 eythian oh, I know. It's just we're throwing everything author related into the 'author' field at the moment.
09:05 eythian how did I cheat?
09:05 cait 245$c is ugly
09:05 cait yep you did
09:05 magnuse eythian: in the swcreenshot with the facets, i assume the result list is still created by running marcxml throguh the usual xslt? where does the marcxml come from? es?
09:04 cait i think you cheated ;)
09:04 eythian yeah, definitely
09:04 ashimema would you run one (or rather 'one cluster') for multiple koha instances?
09:04 eythian http://i.imgur.com/F4Cpxgk.png <-- cait, happier now? :)
09:03 ashimema that's reassuring.. I was worried that an ES server would take some major grunt.
09:03 eythian for real high-end production you'd want a cluster of 3+ servers.
09:03 eythian ashimema: 2 CPU, 2GB RAM, and it doesn't really break a sweat at all.
09:03 magnuse rangi++ then :-)
09:02 eythian I saw it in the mapping he built, so accounted for it.
09:02 ashimema what sort of spec are you running the remote ES server on?
09:02 eythian actually, that was rangi, not me :)
09:02 magnuse eythian++ for remembering normarc :-)
09:02 eythian I also like that it's pretty quick on my crappy vm with a remote ES server.
09:01 eythian user 0m50.172s
09:01 eythian real 1m26.978s
09:01 eythian 21485 records indexed.
08:59 ashimema excellent progress eythian.. I've been watching the repo with baited breath.
08:57 eythian though there are parts of ES I don't quite know how to drive yet, but I'm learning them.
08:57 eythian cait: well, it's reached the point where each successive thing is easier, in general.
08:57 eythian cait: :)
08:57 magnuse eythian: thanks, sweet as!
08:57 eythian magnuse: if you check it out, you'll have to add the elasticsearch_mapping table (from kohastructure) and the default mappings, which aren't complete yet, but are enough for us to do useful things.
08:56 cait just joking :)
08:56 cait or I will fail qa :P
08:56 cait you'll get there
08:56 eythian http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/elastic_search <-- magnuse
08:56 eythian cait: that's totally how it's working at the moment, I just don't have all the forms in there yet.
08:56 cait i guess the all lowercase is because of that too
08:55 cait maybe we will need a display form and an index form?
08:55 magnuse it would be cool if OPL used the same "index names" (not sure if that is what they are called in ES) for their linked data - then koha could maybe just use the indexed RDF data straight out of the box, and not care if it comes from rdf or marc
08:55 eythian it's not hard to know how, I just don't know how to tell it to store them like that yet.
08:55 eythian oh, yeah.
08:55 cait so you shoudl be able to look up there which subfields and how to separate them
08:55 cait eythian: i was only talking display :) the separator betweeen subfields is in the current configuration
08:54 eythian and dates
08:54 eythian cait: at the moment everything is just a naive string, eventually we'll make it smarter and able to understand things that shouldn't be just plain strings, like subjects.
08:53 eythian magnuse: yep, I'll find the link in a moment
08:53 cait maybe for the topical subjects,i know nothing about loc headings
08:53 cait maybe only for some fields you'll need it
08:53 cait if you look at the current configs you can see we often have mutliple fields but no separator because they are supposed to be catalogued
08:53 magnuse eythian: where does the code live? a branch in the catalyst koha repo?
08:53 eythian the capitalisation thing is something I know how to fix, I just need to create a new subfield that is the literal field, rather than the analysed version.
08:53 cait not sure you need --
08:52 cait flaw i the current facetting - but it never hurts to ask :)
08:52 eythian maybe
08:52 eythian hmm
08:52 cait eythian: while you are on it... could you make it use $9 for the actual link when ther is one?
08:52 eythian cait: yeah, we can specify a subfield, or the whole tag. What I'll have to try to do is make it be smart and join them with -- or something.
08:51 cait and we really need capitalization :P
08:51 magnuse cait++ for remembering
08:51 ashimema eythian, is ES relatively simple to get up and running.. wondering wether it's at a stage where I could clone the repo and play with it ;)
08:51 cait i thin it shows all subfields indexed in the author phrase maybe?
08:51 cait working on zebra facetting, saw something similar on his screenshots
08:51 eythian that's exactly it
08:50 cait hm i forgot who it was... wajasu?
08:50 eythian 9 (RLIN) 1576
08:50 eythian actually, that's quite possible
08:50 cait or $9
08:50 eythian might just be bad data.
08:50 eythian I wonder where the numbers are coming from on the subjects...
08:49 eythian (came back anyway to drop my bike off.)
08:49 * ashimema saw where cait was going there..
08:49 cait heh
08:49 eythian nah, I just had training, and came back after to make that work because I knew I was really close to getting it.
08:49 ashimema :)
08:49 cait ES too exciting? :)
08:49 eythian oh right :)
08:48 cait make like a tree and get out of here? or something like that?
08:48 eythian what do you mean?
08:48 cait you always say that
08:48 eythian tree thing?
08:48 eythian I've shimmed the zebra calls so they can behave the same as what I'm doing for ES.
08:48 cait eythian: shoudl't you do the tree thing?
08:48 eythian cait: well, I'm being careful to build it so that zebra will still work, all you have to do is change the relevant system preference.
08:47 cait slightly worried about requirements for ES - but also very excited :)
08:47 eythian though, there are other nice things about ES that we probably won't get out of zebra, e.g. 100% online reindexing. i.e. no search downtime while the indexes are being merged.
08:47 cait yeah, fixing zebra would also be nice
08:46 ashimema cool..
08:46 magnuse eythian++
08:46 eythian definitely
08:46 eythian Much quicker now that the base is built.
08:46 magnuse yeah, it would be cool if someone could do proper zebra facets in koha
08:46 ashimema I still don't think zebra is that bad.. we're just chronically misusing it.
08:46 eythian yeah, it was slowish going getting the foundations in place, but it probably took me a total of 1 or 2 hours to a) figure out how to do it with es and b) actually do it.
08:46 cait eythian++
08:46 ashimema shame realy.
08:46 ashimema Yeah, we did work out how to do facets in zebra at kohacon I think.. but it never went much further.
08:45 ashimema Really looking forward to the ES stuff now.
08:45 eythian well, the zebra facets are all done with Koha perl code anyway, not zebra itself.
08:45 ashimema that appears to be much simpler.. though I'm not realyl well aqauinted with the current zebra code.. jsut that it's a nasty mess
08:43 ashimema wow..
08:43 eythian that was it (and then convert the ES format to what Koha expected)
08:43 eythian };
08:43 eythian "su-to" => { terms => { field => "subject.phrase" } },
08:43 eythian au => { terms => { field => "author.phrase" } },
08:43 eythian $res->{facets} = {
08:43 eythian ashimema: if you've ever seen the zebra related stuff for facets, compare this, which is what I had to do for ES:
08:43 fridolin1 hie all
08:42 ashimema eythian++
08:42 ashimema nice work ethyian
08:42 eythian There's some data issues still to deal with (probably reducing the fields that are considered for faceting) and doing something about the capitalisation, but it's a start.
08:41 eythian http://i.imgur.com/XjZzVVe.png <-- magnuse, cait, bag, dcook, whoever else was interested in elasticsearch facets
08:28 magnuse \o/
08:26 ashimema hi magnuse
08:26 cait hi ashimema
08:26 ashimema hi cait
08:07 magnuse hiya cait
07:48 cait hi all :)
07:45 magnuse howdy irma
07:42 irma helloo mtj
07:36 reiveune and cait :)
07:36 wahanui i heard reiveune was working for biblibre
07:36 marcelr and reiveune
07:36 reiveune salut magnuse marcelr
07:36 marcelr hi magnuse
07:35 magnuse hiya cait reiveune marcelr
07:34 marcelr hi #koha
07:33 reiveune !ping
07:32 * cait waves
07:31 jenkins_koha Starting build #38 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
07:29 magnuse come on, you know you want to do it now... ;-)
07:28 dcook Alas, a patch shall have to wait for tomorrow...
07:28 dcook Our config for fnReloadAjax doesn't even make sense..
07:10 dcook morning ashimema
07:09 ashimema morning all
07:08 * magnuse waves to ashimema
07:04 dcook Man this quote editor is annoying..
07:02 wahanui kia ora, gaetan_B
07:02 gaetan_B hello
06:50 dcook aoColumnDefs > aoColumns
06:50 dcook Not entirely sure what was going on in the end, but IE 8 was doing something weird in the quote editor
06:49 wahanui niihau, alex_a
06:49 alex_a bonjour
06:32 wahanui what's up, reiveune
06:32 reiveune hello
06:26 magnuse :-)
06:26 wahanui magnuse: what?
06:26 magnuse wahanui: *you* just gave *me* the hard data!
06:25 wahanui Can we get some hard data on that?
06:25 magnuse looks like it!
06:25 wahanui summer is here now
06:25 magnuse summer!
06:25 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 12.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on May 19, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
06:25 magnuse @wunder boo
06:25 * magnuse waves
05:52 cait sorry :)
05:51 dcook I was doing a pretty good job until just then ;)
05:50 cait dcook: try to distract yourself? :)
05:35 dcook Taking a friend in the hospital some cupcakes...but morally wrong to sneak one in advance
05:35 * dcook just realized that he has chocolate at home...but not at the office...but is in a chocolate mood
05:34 dcook Dew it!
05:34 eythian (tempted to come back after and finish the facets stuff)
05:33 * eythian has to go to training, bye!
05:27 * dcook glares at IE some more
05:27 dcook :D
05:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12283 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Set autocomplete=off for patron search input
05:26 paxed bug 12283
05:21 dcook paxed: Good call
05:20 paxed in a test environment you usually search for the same patron repeatedly. in production system, not so much. so setting autocomplete=off would be good, so the browser doesn't save it.
05:19 * dcook is more unhappy with IE 8 not handling DataTables in the quote editor though at the moment :p
05:19 dcook cait: Good idea. I might have to give that a shot.
05:18 eythian not the magic dropdown search thing.
05:18 dcook My bad
05:18 paxed eythian: right
05:18 dcook eythian: Ah, yeah, good one
05:18 eythian I assume paxed is talking about browser autocomplete
05:18 eythian no, I think that's a different thing
05:18 paxed oh?
05:18 dcook paxed: I think that's system preference based?
05:17 paxed hm. shouldn't the patron search input box have autocomplete=off?
05:17 cait killing the wrng translation or moving it into a comment
05:17 cait you could reset the translation maybe - for testing. where it's not obvioushow to fix
05:07 dcook hehe
05:07 cait ?
05:07 cait *
05:06 eythian it's hard to tell sometimes :)
05:06 eythian dcook: or perhaps an abusive upbringing.
05:06 eythian dcook: bad genetics
05:06 cait hi eythian
05:06 eythian hi cait
05:04 dcook Internet Explorer 8 (and your whole line really), why do you suck so hard?
04:59 mtj_ gotcha :)
04:40 eythian if you ignore that requirement, around about the same.
04:40 eythian i.e. designed to be a cluster, so you want multiple hosts
04:39 eythian more but different
04:39 mtj_ just curious
04:39 mtj_ is the ES hardware spec similar to SOLR?... or a bit more?
04:35 eythian :)
04:34 mtj_ ive been looking out for it in the #koha scrollback :)
04:33 mtj_ the ES work thats happening from catalyst is pretty exciting
04:33 eythian hi mtj_
04:32 mtj_ hey rangi, eythian
04:04 rangi heh
04:04 eythian https://hewitson.mykoha.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=heathen <-- t/hee
04:04 rangi 995 for unimarc
04:03 rangi yep, so far it only has local-classification
04:03 eythian rangi: we'll probably need to add all the 952 stuff to that mapping eventually, especially homebranch and such, so we can facet/search on that.
03:57 dcook Very cool :)
03:54 rangi oh that is cool
03:52 eythian (it's more serious in a way, but kinda neat too.)
03:52 eythian http://youtu.be/T5FB_trsXaQ <-- dcook, this one will cancel it out then
03:49 dcook Facets! \o/
03:49 dcook hehe. Rather dark tour of wellington, rangi :p
03:47 rangi whoa, thats pretty sweet
03:47 * eythian adds $res->{facets} = { author => { terms => { field => "author.phrase" } } }; in the query builder. Facets now are returned.
03:44 * dcook will take a look in a minute :)
03:38 rangi you can get a bit of a tour of wellington :)
03:37 rangi dcook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv568AzZ-i8
03:29 rangi sweet
03:29 * eythian starts to glare at facets now
03:28 eythian you'll probably want to git pull, I restructured your stuff to handle creating the ES index mappings from the DB too.
03:25 rangi ahh nice
03:25 eythian rangi: sort by pubdate works now, and I fixed the sort_by URL issue (turned out I was setting it when I didn't need to be.)
03:13 dcook Looks like the Arabic PO files are bad for 3.14 and master...
03:12 dcook If only I could read Arabic
03:11 dcook Translation...bleargh
00:51 eythian oh yeah, Monday is quiet-channel day. I always forget that.