Time  Nick          Message
00:51 eythian       oh yeah, Monday is quiet-channel day. I always forget that.
03:11 dcook         Translation...bleargh
03:12 dcook         If only I could read Arabic
03:13 dcook         Looks like the Arabic PO files are bad for 3.14 and master...
03:25 eythian       rangi: sort by pubdate works now, and I fixed the sort_by URL issue (turned out I was setting it when I didn't need to be.)
03:25 rangi         ahh nice
03:28 eythian       you'll probably want to git pull, I restructured your stuff to handle creating the ES index mappings from the DB too.
03:29 * eythian     starts to glare at facets now
03:29 rangi         sweet
03:37 rangi         dcook: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv568AzZ-i8
03:38 rangi         you can get a bit of a tour of wellington :)
03:44 * dcook       will take a look in a minute :)
03:47 * eythian     adds $res->{facets} = { author => { terms => { field => "author.phrase" } } }; in the query builder. Facets now are returned.
03:47 rangi         whoa, thats pretty sweet
03:49 dcook         hehe. Rather dark tour of wellington, rangi :p
03:49 dcook         Facets! \o/
03:52 eythian       http://youtu.be/T5FB_trsXaQ <-- dcook, this one will cancel it out then
03:52 eythian       (it's more serious in a way, but kinda neat too.)
03:54 rangi         oh that is cool
03:57 dcook         Very cool :)
04:03 eythian       rangi: we'll probably need to add all the 952 stuff to that mapping eventually, especially homebranch and such, so we can facet/search on that.
04:03 rangi         yep, so far it only has local-classification
04:04 rangi         995 for unimarc
04:04 eythian       https://hewitson.mykoha.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=heathen <-- t/hee
04:04 rangi         heh
04:32 mtj_          hey rangi, eythian
04:33 eythian       hi mtj_
04:33 mtj_          the ES work thats happening from catalyst is pretty exciting
04:34 mtj_          ive been looking out for it in the #koha scrollback :)
04:35 eythian       :)
04:39 mtj_          is the ES hardware spec similar to SOLR?... or a bit more?
04:39 mtj_          just curious
04:39 eythian       more but different
04:40 eythian       i.e. designed to be a cluster, so you want multiple hosts
04:40 eythian       if you ignore that requirement, around about the same.
04:59 mtj_          gotcha :)
05:04 dcook         Internet Explorer 8 (and your whole line really), why do you suck so hard?
05:06 eythian       hi cait
05:06 cait          hi eythian
05:06 eythian       dcook: bad genetics
05:06 eythian       dcook: or perhaps an abusive upbringing.
05:06 eythian       it's hard to tell sometimes :)
05:07 cait          *
05:07 cait          ?
05:07 dcook         hehe
05:17 cait          you could reset the translation maybe - for testing. where it's not obvioushow to fix
05:17 cait          killing the wrng translation or moving it into a comment
05:17 paxed         hm. shouldn't the patron search input box have autocomplete=off?
05:18 dcook         paxed: I think that's system preference based?
05:18 paxed         oh?
05:18 eythian       no, I think that's a different thing
05:18 eythian       I assume paxed is talking about browser autocomplete
05:18 dcook         eythian: Ah, yeah, good one
05:18 paxed         eythian: right
05:18 dcook         My bad
05:18 eythian       not the magic dropdown search thing.
05:19 dcook         cait: Good idea. I might have to give that a shot.
05:19 * dcook       is more unhappy with IE 8 not handling DataTables in the quote editor though at the moment :p
05:20 paxed         in a test environment you usually search for the same patron repeatedly. in production system, not so much. so setting autocomplete=off would be good, so the browser doesn't save it.
05:21 dcook         paxed: Good call
05:26 paxed         bug 12283
05:26 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12283 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Set autocomplete=off for patron search input
05:27 dcook         :D
05:27 * dcook       glares at IE some more
05:33 * eythian     has to go to training, bye!
05:34 eythian       (tempted to come back after and finish the facets stuff)
05:34 dcook         Dew it!
05:35 * dcook       just realized that he has chocolate at home...but not at the office...but is in a chocolate mood
05:35 dcook         Taking a friend in the hospital some cupcakes...but morally wrong to sneak one in advance
05:50 cait          dcook: try to distract yourself? :)
05:51 dcook         I was doing a pretty good job until just then ;)
05:52 cait          sorry :)
06:25 * magnuse     waves
06:25 magnuse       @wunder boo
06:25 huginn        magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 12.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on May 19, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
06:25 magnuse       summer!
06:25 wahanui       summer is here now
06:25 magnuse       looks like it!
06:25 wahanui       Can we get some hard data on that?
06:26 magnuse       wahanui: *you* just gave *me* the hard data!
06:26 wahanui       magnuse: what?
06:26 magnuse       :-)
06:32 reiveune      hello
06:32 wahanui       what's up, reiveune
06:49 alex_a        bonjour
06:49 wahanui       niihau, alex_a
06:50 dcook         Not entirely sure what was going on in the end, but IE 8 was doing something weird in the quote editor
06:50 dcook         aoColumnDefs > aoColumns
07:02 gaetan_B      hello
07:02 wahanui       kia ora, gaetan_B
07:04 dcook         Man this quote editor is annoying..
07:08 * magnuse     waves to ashimema
07:09 ashimema      morning all
07:10 dcook         morning ashimema
07:28 dcook         Our config for fnReloadAjax doesn't even make sense..
07:28 dcook         Alas, a patch shall have to wait for tomorrow...
07:29 magnuse       come on, you know you want to do it now... ;-)
07:31 jenkins_koha  Starting build #38 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
07:32 * cait        waves
07:33 reiveune      !ping
07:34 marcelr       hi #koha
07:35 magnuse       hiya cait reiveune marcelr
07:36 marcelr       hi magnuse
07:36 reiveune      salut magnuse marcelr
07:36 marcelr       and reiveune
07:36 wahanui       i heard reiveune was working for biblibre
07:36 reiveune      and cait :)
07:42 irma          helloo mtj
07:45 magnuse       howdy irma
07:48 cait          hi all :)
08:07 magnuse       hiya cait
08:26 ashimema      hi cait
08:26 cait          hi ashimema
08:26 ashimema      hi magnuse
08:28 magnuse       \o/
08:41 eythian       http://i.imgur.com/XjZzVVe.png <-- magnuse, cait, bag, dcook, whoever else was interested in elasticsearch facets
08:42 eythian       There's some data issues still to deal with (probably reducing the fields that are considered for faceting) and doing something about the capitalisation, but it's a start.
08:42 ashimema      nice work ethyian
08:42 ashimema      eythian++
08:43 fridolin1     hie all
08:43 eythian       ashimema: if you've ever seen the zebra related stuff for facets, compare this, which is what I had to do for ES:
08:43 eythian       $res->{facets} = {
08:43 eythian       au      => { terms => { field => "author.phrase" } },
08:43 eythian       "su-to" => { terms => { field => "subject.phrase" } },
08:43 eythian       };
08:43 eythian       that was it (and then convert the ES format to what Koha expected)
08:43 ashimema      wow..
08:45 ashimema      that appears to be much simpler.. though I'm not realyl well aqauinted with the current zebra code.. jsut that it's a nasty mess
08:45 eythian       well, the zebra facets are all done with Koha perl code anyway, not zebra itself.
08:45 ashimema      Really looking forward to the ES stuff now.
08:46 ashimema      Yeah, we did work out how to do facets in zebra at kohacon I think.. but it never went much further.
08:46 ashimema      shame realy.
08:46 cait          eythian++
08:46 eythian       yeah, it was slowish going getting the foundations in place, but it probably took me a total of 1 or 2 hours to a) figure out how to do it with es and b) actually do it.
08:46 ashimema      I still don't think zebra is that bad.. we're just chronically misusing it.
08:46 magnuse       yeah, it would be cool if someone could do proper zebra facets in koha
08:46 eythian       Much quicker now that the base is built.
08:46 eythian       definitely
08:46 magnuse       eythian++
08:46 ashimema      cool..
08:47 cait          yeah, fixing zebra would also be nice
08:47 eythian       though, there are other nice things about ES that we probably won't get out of zebra, e.g. 100% online reindexing. i.e. no search downtime while the indexes are being merged.
08:47 cait          slightly worried about requirements for ES - but also very excited :)
08:48 eythian       cait: well, I'm being careful to build it so that zebra will still work, all you have to do is change the relevant system preference.
08:48 cait          eythian: shoudl't you do the tree thing?
08:48 eythian       I've shimmed the zebra calls so they can behave the same as what I'm doing for ES.
08:48 eythian       tree thing?
08:48 cait          you always say that
08:48 eythian       what do you mean?
08:48 cait          make like a tree and get out of here? or something like that?
08:49 eythian       oh right :)
08:49 cait          ES too exciting? :)
08:49 ashimema      :)
08:49 eythian       nah, I just had training, and came back after to make that work because I knew I was really close to getting it.
08:49 cait          heh
08:49 * ashimema    saw where cait was going there..
08:49 eythian       (came back anyway to drop my bike off.)
08:50 eythian       I wonder where the numbers are coming from on the subjects...
08:50 eythian       might just be bad data.
08:50 cait          or $9
08:50 eythian       actually, that's quite possible
08:50 eythian       9 (RLIN) 	1576
08:50 cait          hm i forgot who it was... wajasu?
08:51 eythian       that's exactly it
08:51 cait          working on zebra facetting, saw something similar on his screenshots
08:51 cait          i thin it shows all subfields indexed in the author phrase maybe?
08:51 ashimema      eythian, is ES relatively simple to get up and running.. wondering wether it's at a stage where I could clone the repo and play with it ;)
08:51 magnuse       cait++ for remembering
08:51 cait          and we really need capitalization :P
08:52 eythian       cait: yeah, we can specify a subfield, or the whole tag. What I'll have to try to do is make it be smart and join them with -- or something.
08:52 cait          eythian: while you are on it... could you make it use $9 for the actual link when ther is one?
08:52 eythian       hmm
08:52 eythian       maybe
08:52 cait          flaw i the current facetting - but it never hurts to ask :)
08:53 cait          not sure you need --
08:53 eythian       the capitalisation thing is something I know how to fix, I just need to create a new subfield that is the literal field, rather than the analysed version.
08:53 magnuse       eythian: where does the code live? a branch in the catalyst koha repo?
08:53 cait          if you look at the current configs you can see we often have mutliple fields but no separator because they are supposed to be catalogued
08:53 cait          maybe only for some fields you'll need it
08:53 cait          maybe for the topical subjects,i know nothing about loc headings
08:53 eythian       magnuse: yep, I'll find the link in a moment
08:54 eythian       cait: at the moment everything is just a naive string, eventually we'll make it smarter and able to understand things that shouldn't be just plain strings, like subjects.
08:54 eythian       and dates
08:55 cait          eythian: i was only talking display :) the separator betweeen subfields is in the current configuration
08:55 cait          so you shoudl be able to look up there which subfields and how to separate them
08:55 eythian       oh, yeah.
08:55 eythian       it's not hard to know how, I just don't know how to tell it to store them like that yet.
08:55 magnuse       it would be cool if OPL used the same "index names" (not sure if that is what they are called in ES) for their linked data - then koha could maybe just use the indexed RDF data straight out of the box, and not care if it comes from rdf or marc
08:55 cait          maybe we will need a display form and an index form?
08:56 cait          i guess the all lowercase is because of that too
08:56 eythian       cait: that's totally how it's working at the moment, I just don't have all the forms in there yet.
08:56 eythian       http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/elastic_search <-- magnuse
08:56 cait          you'll get there
08:56 cait          or I will fail qa :P
08:56 cait          just joking :)
08:57 eythian       magnuse: if you check it out, you'll have to add the elasticsearch_mapping table (from kohastructure) and the default mappings, which aren't complete yet, but are enough for us to do useful things.
08:57 magnuse       eythian: thanks, sweet as!
08:57 eythian       cait: :)
08:57 eythian       cait: well, it's reached the point where each successive thing is easier, in general.
08:57 eythian       though there are parts of ES I don't quite know how to drive yet, but I'm learning them.
08:59 ashimema      excellent progress eythian.. I've been watching the repo with baited breath.
09:01 eythian       21485 records indexed.
09:01 eythian       real	1m26.978s
09:01 eythian       user	0m50.172s
09:02 eythian       I also like that it's pretty quick on my crappy vm with a remote ES server.
09:02 magnuse       eythian++ for remembering normarc :-)
09:02 eythian       actually, that was rangi, not me :)
09:02 ashimema      what sort of spec are you running the remote ES server on?
09:02 eythian       I saw it in the mapping he built, so accounted for it.
09:03 magnuse       rangi++ then :-)
09:03 eythian       ashimema: 2 CPU, 2GB RAM, and it doesn't really break a sweat at all.
09:03 eythian       for real high-end production you'd want a cluster of 3+ servers.
09:03 ashimema      that's reassuring.. I was worried that an ES server would take some major grunt.
09:04 eythian       http://i.imgur.com/F4Cpxgk.png <-- cait, happier now? :)
09:04 ashimema      would you run one (or rather 'one cluster') for multiple koha instances?
09:04 eythian       yeah, definitely
09:04 cait          i think you cheated ;)
09:05 magnuse       eythian: in the swcreenshot with the facets, i assume the result list is still created by running marcxml throguh the usual xslt? where does the marcxml come from? es?
09:05 cait          yep you did
09:05 cait          245$c is ugly
09:05 eythian       how did I cheat?
09:05 eythian       oh, I know. It's just we're throwing everything author related into the 'author' field at the moment.
09:05 eythian       In the future we're going to say "this can be considered for faceting, this can't"
09:05 eythian       and so ignore the messy fields.
09:05 cait          ok :)
09:06 eythian       magnuse: one moment, I'll find a result record for you
09:06 cait          yes, than it's better, also i never understood why someone would catalog in capitals
09:06 cait          but i guess i can't blame you for that
09:06 magnuse       BECAUSE IT'S FUN!
09:06 cait          SCREAMING SUBJECTS!
09:06 magnuse       it's a format called MARCSHOUT!
09:06 nlegrand      HELLO #KOHA o/
09:06 cait          lol
09:06 pastebot      "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "what a record coming back from ES looks like" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/4
09:07 cait          hi nlegrand :)
09:07 eythian       magnuse: that's an old version, from when I only had "title" and "biblionumber"
09:07 eythian       but, I'm taking "record" and converting it into a MARC::Record
09:07 magnuse       ah hah?
09:08 magnuse       that looks catmandu'ish?
09:08 eythian       it is exactly catmandu
09:08 eythian       because I'm using that :)
09:08 magnuse       how is the MARC::Record transformed to the result list then?
09:08 magnuse       catmandu++
09:09 eythian       because that's how it works. In a zebra result you get marcxml back, and that becomes a MARC::Record (and then probably that's turned back into marcxml for the XSLT.)
09:09 eythian       I just make the MARC::Record and let the existing system take care of getting it into the form for xslt.
09:09 eythian       (i.e. I've totally ignored that and it works.)
09:10 eythian       magnuse: oh, you will probably have trouble running it unless you have all the dependencies from cpan and quite up to date.
09:10 eythian       I've been making packages of everything as I go, but they're not currently public anywhere.
09:11 eythian       (just due to laziness.)
09:12 eythian       http://www.kallisti.net.nz/~robin/catmandu-deps.tar.gz <-- magnuse, there they go
09:12 eythian       now they're public somewhere
09:13 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_3.14.x build #38: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/38/
09:13 jenkins_koha  Jonathan Druart: Bug 11687: remove disused script statecollection.pl
09:13 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11687 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , statecollection.pl is unused
09:15 magnuse       eythian: i'll probably not get around to playing with it anytime soon. i just want to look at the possibility of koha using the es-indexed RDF from opl
09:16 eythian       hmm.
09:16 magnuse       "marcxml from zebra -> MARC::Record -> marcxml for display -> xslt" - that sounds like a lot of wasted cpu cycles...
09:16 eythian       Koha still expects to see marc
09:16 magnuse       yeah, that is a problem
09:17 magnuse       but opl will be transforming rdf to marc, so koha has something to chew on + for z39.50/SRU/OAI
09:17 eythian       however, there's probably no reason we couldn't have an RDF specific XSLT, so long as you can produce XML from whatever you get, it'll probably work.
09:17 magnuse       so perhaps it could be done
09:17 magnuse       ah, true
09:17 eythian       I would guess it would require very minimal changes.
09:18 eythian       i.e. just telling Koha how to get XML out of whatever object it ends up with.
09:18 eythian       Oh, I lie. It actually gets USMARC from zebra
09:18 eythian       at least in my dev setup, which is quite an old config
09:18 magnuse       opl will be building their own public facing interfaces, so if people want to use their rdf magic they might also want to use that
09:19 magnuse       ah, good old iso2709, will we ever be able to put you to eternal sleep?
09:19 eythian       in that case, I think it would be quite possible.
09:19 eythian       Probably with minimal work (not including building the interfaces.)
09:20 * eythian     really doesn't like how the facet truncation for display is done in C4::Search::getRecords. I'm thinking of changing that so it's pushed all the way out to the template.
09:22 eythian       http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3afc62d3e91f469e00015a545399f7d421bfab9 <-- cait, that was all the work it took to fix the case on facets :)
09:22 ashimema      I'de vote in favour of pushing that out to the template too
09:23 magnuse       yeah, that sounds reasonable
09:23 eythian       it makes the most sense, it being display logic.
09:23 cait          :)
09:23 cait          eythian: i think we fixed that - xml everywhere
09:23 cait          tcohen would know
09:23 * cait        has a hard time readng back fast enough
09:24 eythian       it's quite possible, but I'm not totally sure
09:24 cait          and for the truncation... please stop it cutting umlauts in half
09:25 eythian       http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=C4/Search.pm;h=ed37baeade0973c4b0836910d7c4172effc29e2f;hp=18a0f5f23288b30fbcc5569cbbbf26507951bd7f;hb=67eaa90844f71ed78bab3da4722fb255cbb1ee02;hpb=84961fff9a3f39a8afe7e60015405420b3dc37be <-- this is what I had to change in C4::Search, it's assuming that it's getting USMARC
09:25 eythian       (that is, I'm not giving it USMARC, I'm giving it a MARC::Record, so I had to account for that.)
09:25 eythian       cait: wow, it does that?
09:25 cait          eythian: at least in 3.12 it does, not sure if soemone fixed it
09:26 eythian       I think it'd be harder to make it not UTF-8 aware than to make it break it.
09:26 cait          like when the umlaut would be the last displayed character... not quite
09:26 eythian       I guess it just needs to be told the strings are UTF8 somewhere.
09:26 magnuse       eythian: will you make it configurable, e.g. an easy way to say which indexes should be used to create facets?
09:26 eythian       yeah, I can imagine how it could do that.
09:26 eythian       magnuse: well, the template relies on knowing what to expect.
09:27 eythian       so it won't be trivial to do that.
09:27 eythian       (i.e. the template expects one of a handful of facet types.)
09:27 eythian       this is also important for translation
09:27 magnuse       true
09:27 eythian       but, we probably will make it configurable to say "consider these fields as author fields for facets, and these fields as author fields for search."
09:28 eythian       the latter is already done
09:28 magnuse       http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/Filters.html#section_truncate_length_dots_
09:28 eythian       that's exactly what I want.
09:31 eythian       any more queries before I make like a bald man and get outta hair? ;)
09:32 cait          lol
09:32 cait          can you make it show kittens?
09:32 magnuse       ooh, yes please!
09:32 eythian       No.
09:32 eythian       No kittens.
09:32 cait          when someone enters sad search terms?
09:32 eythian       haha
09:32 cait          so why are we stiching to ES, it gives us nothing over zebra!
09:32 cait          switching even ... ;)
09:33 magnuse       use a kitten unicode symbol as bullet points for the facets
09:33 magnuse       stitching to ES
09:34 cait          eythian: I guess you can do your bald man thing now
09:34 eythian       btw I'm fairly keen for people to test this out, right now it's in a working state (that's not always the case :)
09:35 eythian       so if you have a go and get stuck, let me know. It _should_ be well documented, but there might be something missing.
09:35 eythian       oh, it does need unit tests, but apis are evolving a bit still.
09:36 * magnuse     thinks eythian deserves some rest now
09:37 eythian       oh, my rebuild_elasticsearch.pl is 129 lines long, of which about 40% is documentation. Compare that to rebuild_zebra ;)
09:37 eythian       yep, time to head off.
09:37 eythian       later
09:41 nlegrand      I had a weird bug lately on my 3.2, whenever I save the biblio records, some open field in the items are over encoded, eg 'Dépôt' becomes 'Dépôt légal' and the more you save, the weirder it gets, until you edit the items, it displays anything fine, save it, and it's fixed
09:41 nlegrand      is it a known old bug? :)
09:42 nlegrand      otherwise it may be our super customised koha ^^
09:42 eythian       that's a known thing all over the internet
09:42 eythian       double-encoded UTF8
09:42 eythian       it's probably fixed in post3.2 versions
09:44 nlegrand      eythian: sure, but my version is funnier, cause if I save my biblio records twenty time in a row, each non ascii char has been replaced by 1048576 creepy character :) it's squared-encoded UTF8 ^^
09:44 cait          nlegrand: i thik that got fixed
09:44 cait          nlegrand: 3.2 is really old by now :(
09:44 nlegrand      nice :)
09:44 nlegrand      cait: yes :)
09:45 cait          nlegrand: i think i remember seeing something likethat with diacritics in callnumbers and notes
09:45 nlegrand      cait: my goal is to be very near community version as soon as possible and stay there :)
09:45 magnuse       nlegrand: good plan :-)
09:45 ashimema      why such an old version nlegrand?
09:45 nlegrand      I mean staying near last versions which is moving twice a year ^^
09:46 ashimema      highly customised?
09:46 nlegrand      ashimema: yes
09:46 nlegrand      the BULAC was thrilled by the oppurtunity of customising, but did it in a bubble
09:46 nlegrand      now we want to get out of the bubble :)
09:46 cait          a lesson any libraries learned the hard way i think
09:47 nlegrand      cait: exactly
09:47 cait          but it will be alright :) *optimistic*
09:47 nlegrand      <3
09:47 ashimema      :)
09:48 nlegrand      It will be horrible, and nasty, but I really really want to do it :)
09:48 nlegrand      I'll bring champagne to the next kohafest if everything went well :)
09:48 cait          :)
09:49 ashimema      :)
09:49 cait          we will try to help if we can
09:50 nlegrand      ho thanks :) I'm already a bit ashamed to ask questions about 3.2, I will try not to bother all of you too much ^^
09:50 nlegrand      I really appreciate the kindness of #koha community :)
09:50 magnuse       nlegrand: as long as you are asking about migrating from 3.2 it will be ok i think ;-)
09:51 nlegrand      :D
09:52 cait          you are not bothering us i think, it's just we can#t help much fixing problems there... other than confirming we remember the bug :(
09:52 magnuse       what she said :-)
09:57 paxed         there's no easy way to print patron's fines, is there?
09:57 cait          prnt as a slip? or in overdue notices?
09:57 paxed         slip
09:58 cait          currently not for the totals, only for single lines I think :(
09:58 paxed         ah. ok.
09:58 * paxed       codes it, then.
09:59 cait          cool :)
10:08 * magnuse     waves to khall
10:09 khall         mornin magnuse et al!
10:10 magnuse       baby waking you up early?
10:10 magnuse       gah, it's lunch time already!!
10:11 ashimema      khall: We're getting allot of 'Can't call method "fix_checksum" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/Business/ISBN13.pm line 78.' when using the command line stage_file.pl with your ISBN clever matching stuff turned on.. anything you've seen before?
10:12 khall         ashimema: I bet this will fix the issue: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12243
10:12 huginn        04Bug 12243: critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Records with invalid ISBNs can cause searches to fail
10:13 khall         it seems that an isbn not being "bad" isn't a good enough check, there are other types of badness that can cause issues. Whoever wrote businesss::isbn made some off decisions about that
10:14 ashimema      I see.. thanks khall
10:22 vfernandes    hello
10:23 vfernandes    after some time trying, I can't put the 942$c as itemtype index
10:23 cait          vfernandes: what's the problem?
10:23 wahanui       the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
10:37 vfernandes    i tried to add some lines to record.abs, biblio-zebra-indexdefs and biblio-koha-indexdefs
10:37 vfernandes    i've reindexed all records
10:40 vfernandes    do I have to restart zebra?
10:40 vfernandes    after changing the files?
10:43 mtj_          vfernandes:  yes
10:43 vfernandes    ok
10:43 vfernandes    trying again... reindexing all :)
11:20 vfernandes    not worked :/
11:25 pastebot      "vfernandes" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Modifications" (28 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/5
11:25 vfernandes    these are my modifications to the indexing files
11:26 vfernandes    I think they are correct
11:28 Viktor        Greetings!
11:29 gaetan_B      bye!
11:29 Viktor        How do people feel about hiding great content like "Title notices" and "Comments" in tabs in the Opac? Could the tabs be removed and the full content displayed at once?
11:31 vfernandes    if anyone could help me in this question :)
11:31 jcamins       Viktor: FWIW, I have a client that has the title notes visible directly rather than in a tab.
11:32 vfernandes    Viktor maybe you can use javascript and jquery to remove those tabs
11:33 Viktor        I could change them to regular divs i guess, but they are nested as a list so I would have to think for several minutes before touching those :)
11:34 Viktor        I just wonder if people love them or if they are just left from old times when people didn't scroll
11:34 Viktor        Today when people scroll tabs inside pages just increases the interaction cost.
11:35 * cait        waves at Viktor
11:35 * Viktor      waves at cait
11:35 jcamins       Viktor: I just use jQuery.
11:36 vfernandes    Viktor jquery is the aswer :)
11:36 Viktor        jcamins Did you put the script on a blog somewhere?
11:36 cait          sorry vfernandes... went off for lunch
11:36 vfernandes    no problem cait :)
11:36 jcamins       Viktor: I don't know.
11:36 jcamins       Probably.
11:37 Viktor        :)
11:37 jcamins       Viktor: $("#descriptions").insertAfter($("#catalogue_detail_biblio")); $("#descriptions").removeClass('ui-tabs-panel ui-tabs-hide'); $("#tab_descriptions").remove();
11:38 Viktor        Yay - thanks!
11:38 Viktor        Does it go inte the regular script container in admin?
11:39 Viktor        jcamins++
11:39 * magnuse     waves to Viktor
11:39 * Viktor      waves to magnuse
11:39 vfernandes    Viktor put the code on opacuserjs
11:42 Viktor        Sweet - works great :)
11:42 Viktor        Thanks!
11:44 Viktor        And while we're on the subject of opacuserjs - does TinyCMS still work with the new Bootstrap theme?
11:44 Viktor        I did the following tabs based on Owens code on his blog http://hylte.demo.bibkat.no
11:45 Viktor        (Not all there but lets you display tabs without losing the header with login and stuff)
11:45 Viktor        I did it using opacuserjs, but TinyCMS looked like a bit cleaner way of doing this(?)
12:17 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:34 magnuse       kia ora oleonard
12:38 paul_p        hello #koha
12:38 oleonard      Hi paul_p
12:42 magnuse       kia ora paul_p
13:03 * oleonard    brb
13:20 oleonard      Can't seem to access the KOCT addon in Firefox 29. Can't find it.
13:21 cait          hm did you try turningon the ... menu?
13:22 cait          i don't know how they are called in english i realize
13:22 cait          add on sidebar maybe
13:35 vfernandes    any help on my problem?
13:36 oleonard      If anyone cares, I had to install the "Addon Bar (restored)" addon to Firefox 29 in order to be able to see the KOCT addon
13:54 cait          oleonard: ouch.
14:01 rambutan      @wunder 64507
14:01 huginn        rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 18.6°C (9:01 AM CDT on May 19, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
14:01 jenkins_koha  Starting build #39 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
14:23 vfernandes    with DOM indexing which is the used file? biblio-koha-indexdefs or biblio-zebra-indexdefs?
14:32 jcamins       Zebra uses the latter, which is generated from the former.
14:35 vfernandes    jcamins I added one index for 942$c but nothing is happening
14:35 vfernandes    look at http://paste.koha-community.org/5
15:10 cait          vfernandes: maybe take a look at how someone else added a new index to the dom indexing
15:10 cait          i think there are also notes on the wiki
15:10 wahanui       okay, cait.
15:11 cait          i haven't donee that yet, so probably can#t help much
15:11 vfernandes    cait i've already look at wiki
15:12 cait          i think these are the newest instructions
15:12 cait          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/MRenvoize/zebra
15:17 jcamins       vfernandes: that looks right to me. Very similar to what I have. But I can't troubleshoot right now.
15:21 ashimema      Well, if those instructions are being hadned around to the world.. I suppose I better put them somewhere usefull on the wiki, instead of hidden under my username.
15:30 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12240 - update of Italian SQL files (non-MARC setup) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15e78498ac14dc28b3adf73ffda7938d1d47f9cb>
15:31 cait          btw
15:31 cait          i need a qa person to look at my web intaller updates...
15:31 cait          *hides*
15:39 bag           morning
15:39 wahanui       somebody said morning was a state of cat
15:39 bag           cait: web intaller updates?
15:39 bag           heh
15:40 reiveune      bye
15:42 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_3.14.x build #39: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/39/
15:42 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11721 - Use new DataTables include in suggestions template
15:42 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11670 - Remove sorting from patron lists action columns
15:42 jenkins_koha  * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11704: Make */svc/report print the correct headers
15:42 jenkins_koha  * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 11652: ensure that merging authority records corrects biblios
15:42 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11737 - Use new DataTables include in quotes management template
15:42 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11721 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use new DataTables include in suggestions template
15:42 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11737: (follow-up) remove extra fnReloadAjax.js
15:42 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11739 - Use new DataTables include in notices template
15:42 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11670 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove sorting from patron lists action columns
15:42 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11704 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Wrong headers in {opac|intranet}/svc/report
15:43 cait          bag: i have 3 patches in the signed off list waiting .)
15:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11652 minor, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Stable , merging authority records does not correct biblios
15:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11737 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use new DataTables include in quotes management template
15:43 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11739 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use new DataTables include in notices template
15:43 bag           cool I will look
15:45 cait          bag: awesome - thx :)
15:45 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1755 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1753 6 days 1 hr ago)
15:46 bag           some of them look fine and nice and simple - but I guess I'm going to just have to trust that you are using the correct German word?
15:46 cait          probably
15:46 bag           Alle Datensätze
15:46 cait          all records
15:46 bag           sure that looks pretty :)
15:46 cait          heh
15:46 bag           heh
15:48 mtompset      Greetings, #koha cait bag
15:49 bag           heya
15:49 cait          hi mtompset
15:49 mtompset      Why is writing test code so de-motivating?
15:49 druthb        Hiya bag, cait, mtompset. :)
15:50 mtompset      Greetings, druthb.
15:50 cait          hi druthb :)
15:50 * druthb      wriggles happily
15:50 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12243: ensure that records with invalid ISBNs do not cause searches to fail <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a18ce86e83740a58e9c10a2f99354a8b84d9a8bd> / Bug 12243: add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=59c569ce92a72dc6d60a16e76fb8c4eebc741fcc>
15:53 mtompset      Okay. Why are you wriggling happily, druthb?
15:54 druthb        busy weekend, but a good one.  And seeing mah friends here.  :P
15:59 mtompset      Blip. Silly VM upgrade.
16:01 mtompset      Have a great day, #koha cait druthb bag
16:31 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12271: (follow-up) fix minor errors in Bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bafeb881c99142fd3abf507a3c5bcddd2c12932a> / Bug 12271: (follow-up) teach valid-templates.t how to include specified templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b97e691ef87bf3fd89f38ba0b1772d8fcac44b33> / Bug 12271: add Bootstrap templates to valid-templates.t tests <http:
16:47 vfernandes    koha 3.14 OPAC supports federated searches?
16:47 gmcharlt      no
16:51 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9612: (follow-up) restore elementSetName in Context.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb2345a3021116d94c74fb989cb65b156fbd646f> / Bug 7841: quell warnings in C4::Languages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bd3cab4a9356c9ce5b1e659ff64536ce3d5ca462> / Bug 7841: add a direct regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4af3
16:58 khall         @later tell rangi would you take a look at bug 8352 and give me your thoughts? I've implemented a new printer CRUD interface and added the ability to use CUPS printers as well as supporting Net::Printer.
16:58 huginn        khall: The operation succeeded.
17:01 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12244 - followup to fix tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a23c452b334c05249de4298ae971b2331a5b6ded> / Bug 12244 - Update Acq Help for 3.16 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0bc18951c7857885e1b12b445de039bf6d55d98> / Bug 12244 - Update Admin Help for 3.16 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a990de106d7e00d6af2c8cd8e71e16c1f6f
17:18 magnuse       bag: HI
17:18 bag           magnuse: HI
17:19 pianohacker   pianohacker: HI
17:32 * cait        waves
17:37 magnuse       welcome back JesseM
17:37 * JesseM      waves at magnuse
17:38 magnuse       :-)
17:38 magnuse       gah
17:38 magnuse       %s %s %s %s if %s %s unless %s %s%s$%s%s %s exists %s %s does not exist %s %s matches %s %s does not match %s %s RegEx m/%s
17:38 magnuse       is that supposed to be translated or not?
17:38 JesseM        gah
17:38 pianohacker   yes, it should
17:38 pianohacker   you should start  by translating to en-US
17:38 pianohacker   from wt-FF
17:38 magnuse       lol
17:39 magnuse       it comes from the marc modification templates
17:39 pianohacker   joy
17:39 magnuse       i'll leave it in and see what happens
17:43 oleonard      Yeah the translation system doesn't actually know how T:T works, it's pretty messed up.
17:52 * magnuse     sometimes wonders if it would be better to explicitly mark strings for translation, like [% l('Translate me') %]
17:53 paxed         it would be. bug 12221 would help a bit, but then you'd have to madify some templates to produce sensible sentences instead of sentence fragment.
17:53 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12221 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, NEW , Remove TT statement placeholders from translatable strings
17:53 paxed         modify*
17:54 oleonard      [% l('Translate %s and %s'), this, that %] ?
17:55 paxed         that's how evergreen does it.
17:56 magnuse       hehe, madify was a nice typo there ;-)
17:57 magnuse       paxed: do you know what perl module(s) they are using?
17:57 paxed         not off the top of my head, sorry.
17:58 magnuse       never mind
17:58 wahanui       Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
18:03 eda           HI
18:03 wahanui       bonjour, eda
18:03 eda           @wahanui
18:03 huginn        eda: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
18:03 eda           may I ask a question
18:05 jenkins_koha  Yippee, build fixed!
18:05 wahanui       o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
18:05 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1755: FIXED in 2 hr 21 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1755/
18:05 jenkins_koha  * Koha SAB CINECA: Bug 12240 - update of Italian SQL files (non-MARC setup)
18:05 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 12243: add regression test
18:05 jenkins_koha  * Kyle M Hall: Bug 12243: ensure that records with invalid ISBNs do not cause searches to fail
18:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12240 normal, P5 - low, ---, z.tajoli, Pushed to Master , Update of Italian SQL files (no marc setup) - 3.16
18:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12243 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Records with invalid ISBNs can cause searches to fail
18:06 eda           hi
18:07 edda          hello
18:07 wahanui       hola, edda
18:07 edda          hi wahanui, may I ask a question
18:07 jenkins_koha  Starting build #40 for job Koha_3.14.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE)
18:07 edda          ?
18:10 gmcharlt      wahanui is a bot, not a real person
18:10 gmcharlt      what's your question?
18:11 edda          ok
18:11 edda          i need help about install koha online host
18:13 gmcharlt      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.x_on_Debian_Squeeze is a good place to start, assumin g you have a Debian machine available
19:01 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Translation update for 3.16.00 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ceb017765fc3430f188b5cbdd71d994c15359508>
19:02 cait          that looks like release time :)
19:06 gmcharlt      not quite yet, I expect a few more bugfixes and non-string-changy things
19:06 gmcharlt      but later today
19:09 cait          :)
19:15 magnuse       is there a deadline for translations?
19:18 gmcharlt      magnuse: I will be requesting another pull of translations prior to cutting the final release on Thursday
19:19 magnuse       cool
19:19 magnuse       couple more days then :-)
19:19 gmcharlt      yep
19:47 taylorSchmidt We're trying to add unit tests for a web service API to t/db_dependent/Reserves.t, and the fact that it creates its own transaction prevents us from just accessing the API through a URL (as that happens in another process)
19:47 taylorSchmidt any ideas?
19:47 wahanui       any ideas are welcome :)
19:47 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_3.14.x build #40: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.14.x/40/
19:47 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11735 - Use new DataTables include in calendar template
19:47 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11757: remove dependency on POE
19:47 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11748 - Remove unused jquery.uitablefilter.js plugin
19:47 jenkins_koha  * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11628: add missing staffaccess permission to French userflags.sql file
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11764 - Move repeatedly redefined function toUC() into staff-global.js
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11765 - Remove unused function isDate from templates
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Marc Veron: Bug 11773: fix crash in sco-main.pl if no active currency is set
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11735 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use new DataTables include in calendar template
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11743 - Remove unused DataTables plugin from OPAC theme directories
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Colin Campbell: Bug 10789: Remove unnecessary calls to $sth->finish in C4::Acquisitions
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11757 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , dependency on POE is not longer necessary
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10789: Follow-up: Fix typo "infermation"
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10789: Follow-up: restored second SQL parameter in GetLastOrderReceivedFromSubscriptionid
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Stéphane Delaune: Bug 11730: ensure that C4::Charset loads C4::Context
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11756: improve default sorting on hold ratios report
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11771 - Use validation plugin when creating new MARC framework tag
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11748 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused jquery.uitablefilter.js plugin
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11628 normal, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , staffaccess permission is missing in french userflags.sql file
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11749 - Remove unused jQuery plugin jquery.hoverIntent.minified.js from the staff client
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11766 - Use validation plugin when creating new authority type
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11767 - Use validation plugin when creating new authority framework tag
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11740 - Use new DataTables include in quotes upload template
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11764 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Move repeatedly redefined function toUC() into staff-global.js
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11765 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused function isDate from templates
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Marc Veron: Bug 11784 - fix displaying patron images in self checkout
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11779: fix unexpected change in logged-in library when changing overdue notice triggers
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11779: (follow-up) improve GetLoggedInBranchcode() and add test cases
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11783: ensure CD field in SIP patron information response is populated
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11773 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Crash 'undefined value as a HASH' in sco-main.pl
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11743 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused DataTables plugin from OPAC theme directories
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Amit Gupta: Bug 11777: ensure "created by" is displayed by the order receiving page
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11777: add regression test
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10789 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Excessive and often incorrect use of finish in C4::Acquisitions
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11644: fix occasional failure to update fund amount due to floating-point math
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11644: (follow-up) add FIXME
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11730 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , C4::Charset call C4::Context without use it
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11756 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Hold ratios report sorting incorrectly
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544: ensure that stocknumber searches work for MARC21
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544: add Number-local-acquisition in known indexes
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11771 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use validation plugin when creating new MARC framework tag
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10544 - add Number-local-acquisition in QueryParser config
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10544: (follow-up) update MARC21 DOM index definitions
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11749 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove unused jQuery plugin jquery.hoverIntent.minified.js from the staff client
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11202: Improve UNIMARC biblio indexing
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11202: FIX UT for QueryParser.t
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Use validation plugin when creating new authority type
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11202: (follow-up) update number of expected tests for t/QueryParser.t
19:48 jenkins_koha  * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11732: Eliminate warning on undefined branchcode
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11767 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use validation plugin when creating new authority framework tag
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11740 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Use new DataTables include in quotes upload template
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11784 minor, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Patron images broken in Self checkout
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11779 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Unexpected change in logged in branch when changing overdue notice triggers
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11783 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Record level unavailable holds sending empty CD field rather than item barcode
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11777 normal, P5 - low, ---, amitddng135, Pushed to Stable , Created by name is not coming in order receiving page
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11644 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Cannot update fund if total is equal to amount unallocated
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10544 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , stocknumber index is an alias of Number-local-acquisition
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11202 enhancement, P4, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Stable , Improve UNIMARC biblio indexing
19:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11732 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Eliminate warning on undefined branchcode
19:49 gmcharlt      taylorSchmidt: my suggestion: don't do that :) IOW, if it's necessary to access an external web service, write a separate test file that manages its own tear-down of test data, if it can't use a DB tranaction
19:51 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1756 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
19:55 taylorSchmidt gmcharlt: while it wouldn't test some of the routing and URL dispatch stuff, maybe, to reuse the existing setup/teardown functionality, just call Koha::Service::Holds manually with some test data from inside Reserves.t?
19:55 gmcharlt      taylorSchmidt: that's reasonable
19:55 taylorSchmidt okay cool
20:03 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12288: (follow-up) test for defined values <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d9c413c42dc124c7ef26c779c2c0758b4735ae4> / Bug 12288: fix search errors with AggressiveMatchOnISBN turned on <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=833eef4e08b7e8891c86b5e898c43f3aaeab6ff5> / Bug 12288: add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=
20:05 bag           http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12025
20:05 huginn        04Bug 12025: critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Inventory tool fails with "Could not reads headers", or sometimes a timeout
20:05 bag           anybody got any ideas on that bug?  Something for me to chase?
20:07 gmcharlt      bag:  are you seeing it?
20:08 bag           yes three sites confirmed
20:08 bag           at least the they've uploaded the barcode file and that happens
20:09 bag           but I am not sure on how to "see" it on the server when it's happening
20:10 bag           khall stepped away for the day so I was going to have him take a look at it first thing
20:11 bag           I was going through this http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7684  to see what in there maybe contributing
20:11 huginn        04Bug 7684: normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , inventory :  datatable fix actions etc.
20:26 gmcharlt      bag: it looks pretty clear it's the fault of that bug
20:27 gmcharlt      or rather, the patches for it
20:27 gmcharlt      as it has the effective of running a report of pretty much all items in the system if you upload a file of barcodes
20:28 rangi         ouch
20:28 rangi         morning btw
20:28 gmcharlt      and sort of thing that would have slipped past testers' small toy databases :(
20:29 rangi         *nod*
20:29 bag           right ok yes I was getting there :)  sweet gmcharlt thanks
20:30 bag           mornign rangi
20:30 bag           darn it morning
20:30 bag           heh
20:42 gmcharlt      bag: please see the comment I added to bug 12025
20:42 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12025 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Inventory tool fails with "Could not reads headers", or sometimes a timeout
20:42 gmcharlt      it suggests a work-around
20:45 bag           awesome good idea
20:45 bag           thanks
20:57 pianohacker   is the 'psgi:exit' trick that Auth.pm something standard/exportable? Can't find documentation for it in the Plack stuff
20:57 pianohacker   *that Auth.pm does
20:57 bag           hey pianohacker ask eythian
20:57 bag           he's been hacking on plack recently and should be able to help you right quick
20:57 pianohacker   eythian: ^
20:57 bag           oh rangi is lurking now - he could have a thought
21:20 pianohacker   gmcharlt: It seems from things like http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7829 that plain exit is kosher with plack
21:20 huginn        04Bug 7829: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, CLOSED FIXED, reports/ remove all exit(1) for plack
21:20 gmcharlt      pianohacker: ok
21:21 pianohacker   gmcharlt: will confirm with someone more familiar before I submit, but moving forward for the moment
21:51 cait          good night all
21:54 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11404: (follow-up) only ask user if there are instances needing upgrading <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c5f927689c24323128e88cfa26ffe9adcfbd832> / Bug 11404: Make the install process aware of the changes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=624c953b354a21f556ed499726d233dead6aa40f> / Bug 11404: koha-functions.sh introduced for reuse <http://git.koha-communi
21:55 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1756: SUCCESS in 2 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1756/
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Fridolin Somers: Bug 12271: add Bootstrap templates to valid-templates.t tests
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 12271: (follow-up) teach valid-templates.t how to include specified templates
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 12271: (follow-up) fix minor errors in Bootstrap theme
21:55 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12271 critical, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , valid-templates.t does not test bootstrap opac templates
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Mark Tompsett: Bug 7841: add unit tests to detect no functional changes to getTranslatedLanguages()
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 7841: add a direct regression test
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Mark Tompsett: Bug 7841: quell warnings in C4::Languages
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 9612: (follow-up) restore elementSetName in Context.pm
21:55 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7841 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Several warnings on language from webinstaller
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Koha 3.16 Circ Help Updates
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update Patron help files for 3.16
21:55 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9612 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , SRU Response is different when DOM indexing is enabled
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update cataloging help for 3.16
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update Search Help for 3.16
21:55 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12244 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Help Files for Koha 3.16
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update Notices Help Files
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update authorized values help for 3.16
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update Admin Help for 3.16
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 12244 - Update Acq Help for 3.16
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 12244 - followup to fix tabs
21:55 jenkins_koha  * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation update for 3.16.00 release
21:59 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1757 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:11 bag           gmcharlt: what is  Update Nr. 17 (September 2013)  on bug 10964
22:11 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10964 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Update MARC21 de-DE default framework to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013)
22:11 gmcharlt      bag: MARC21 update #17 by the Library of Congress
22:14 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12168: (follow-up) correct typos in test descriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1387c65c0d344ad49206f6e181990e704a542d26> / Bug 12168: Add unit tests for GetBudgetHierarchySpent & GetBudgetHierarchyOrdered <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd36f80e2ccfe64c59648543997778b295959a4d> / Bug 12168: fix spent and ordered budget values are wrong when depth >
22:24 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12113: Update German web installer for 3.16 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=36135f2d5646d91a46dcebed947fdcca8f336dfd> / Bug 12275: Small corrections to English web installer <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ab0b36c04512ce50aa6ba9728e30cda9bb7e98d>
22:31 eythian       hi
22:32 bag           ah thanks gmcharlt
22:32 bag           heya eythian
22:32 wahanui       eythian is an expert bot trainer
22:33 pianohacker   eythian: hi. Could I ambush you with a quick Plack question?
22:33 bag           yay!
22:33 eythian       pianohacker: you can try, though I don't know anything about psgi:exit off the top of my head sorry ;)
22:33 pianohacker   curses!
22:33 pianohacker   eythian: Is it safe, at least, to call plain 'exit' from within a Plackified script?
22:34 eythian       oh, that psgi:exit thing in C4::Auth is just a string
22:34 eythian       I'm not aware if it does any magic (it might)
22:34 eythian       pianohacker: it seems to be, yes
22:34 pianohacker   eythian: I couldn't find any reference to it in any of the Plack libraries, so I don't think so *shrug*
22:34 eythian       I have tried and failed to see what it actually does, but it doesn't seem to actually cause problems.
22:35 pianohacker   eythian: I'll continue forward with that then, thanks.
22:35 eythian       (calling exit, that is.)
22:37 pianohacker   eythian: Ah, it does some similar magic which seems to assume that 'die' is safe (see after 'sub new ...' in http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/MIYAGAWA/CGI-Compile-0.16/lib/CGI/Compile.pm)
22:41 eythian       hmm OK.
22:42 pianohacker   jcamins: Could I ask you an idle question about t/www/batch.t? I'm working on some webservice tests for my field session project, and I was curious why t/www/batch.t used KOHA_INTRANET_URL rather that staffClientBaseURL.
22:52 bag           gmcharlt: if you are on bug 10964  I obseleted too many patches with my last bz attach - I've corrected that now
22:52 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10964 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Update MARC21 de-DE default framework to Update Nr. 17 (September 2013)
22:53 bag           there should be 2 patches
22:53 gmcharlt      ok
22:53 eythian       gmcharlt: I weaseled out of your second issue on bug 12252, hope you don't mind :)
22:53 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12252 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, In Discussion , OAI-PMH GetRecord result doesn't include item data
22:55 eythian       erk we really really need to split OAI-PMH into a series of modules, not loading them all in opac/oai.pl.
22:56 gmcharlt      bag: I believe you attached the wrong second patch to 10964
22:56 bag           damn
22:56 gmcharlt      IOW, I'm not seeing the QAed 'Update German default bibliograhpic and authority frameowkrs'
22:57 bag           I did
22:57 bag           one sec
23:01 bag           ok there we go gmcharlt should be good now
23:01 gmcharlt      thanks
23:01 bag           did a HEAD^ at the wrong time
23:01 bag           :P
23:02 gmcharlt      bag: be very, very careful when lopping off HEADs! :-P
23:02 bag           gmcharlt++
23:02 bag           must have been easy on your end to catch it - since the patch I put up - was probably the last that you pushed - giving you some conflicts?
23:03 gmcharlt      yeah, a "patch already applied"
23:04 bag           yeah - so really good time thankfully - so I didn't waste too much of your time
23:04 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10964: Update German default bibliographic and authority frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e0fb1cb2d0dd29724c63c9b831694bc3233e540> / Bug 10964: Update German simple and fast add frameworks <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c609e5627103883c34812a43999f36ec5eb88b1a>
23:08 bag           hey eythian what time is it there?
23:09 eythian       bag: the time there id 2014-05-19 16:09:10 -0700
23:09 eythian       the time here is 11:09am :)
23:09 bag           no clue what that is
23:09 bag           it's 4pm here
23:10 bag           ah thanks :)
23:10 bag           ok so you are 20 hours ahead of me
23:10 bag           hmm does 8am on your Thursday work for a quick chat?
23:11 eythian       That sounds uncivilised, though I suppose I could do it from home.
23:11 bag           yeah if that's cool with you - I'd like to have khall along and we could just do IRC to make it simple
23:11 eythian       sure
23:17 * dcook       likes eythian's weaseling in 12252
23:18 rangi         @later tell tcohen new question here http://koha-community.org/kohacon/kohacon14/schedule/
23:18 huginn        rangi: The operation succeeded.
23:24 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: DBRev 3.15.00.052: mark Koha 3.16 RC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d767a0977180e1989b66f8edd168314f6f0af72> / update release notes for Koha 3.16.0-rc <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fff8ae56c49cd33f2655a4a00cff2ef51854c8e1>
23:25 rangi         gmcharlt++
23:29 * dcook       grumbles a bit more about the quote editor being buggy as
23:29 dcook         But that's why's I tries to fix it
23:32 dcook         Also IE just plain sucks..
23:33 eythian       yep
23:33 dcook         Doesn't work so hot in Chrome either though :/
23:33 eythian       I think we tend to say that IE's not officially supported for the staff client.
23:33 eythian       and recommend firefox
23:34 pianohacker   dcook: I can't hear you over the sound of my firefox shirt
23:34 dcook         "We" as in Catalyst or Koha-Comm?
23:34 dcook         pianohacker: Alas, hospitals run with pretty old proprietary stuff...
23:34 eythian       dcook: well, we as catalyst do, but I think that it might be the k-c position as well.
23:35 pianohacker   < dcook> pianohacker: firefox firefox firefox firefox
23:35 pianohacker   dcook: (but yes, they do. My sympathies.)
23:35 eythian       dcook: we tell them that it'll mostly work with IE, but some things not as well. They usually talk their IT into giving them firefox.
23:35 eythian       Some can't, and they accept a mildy degraded interface.
23:42 dcook         I suppose mild is a bit relative :p
23:42 dcook         Actually, newer versions of IE do tend to perform better at least
23:42 dcook         Well, worse in some ways, better in others
23:43 eythian       yeah, it used to be the cataloguing page took about a minute to render in IE.
23:43 dcook         Yikes
23:45 pianohacker   I wonder how rancor would look in IE 7
23:47 * dcook       shudders