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00:19 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1740: NOW UNSTABLE in 2 hr 17 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1740/
00:19 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 9854: add ttf-dejavu as dependency for Debian packages
00:19 jenkins_koha * Dobrica Pavlinusic: Bug 8375: Use TrueType fonts in PDF::Reuse
00:19 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 8375: (follow-up) fix font code and alignment
00:19 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10807: (follow-up) exclude C4::Search::History from t/00-load.t
00:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9854 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Add 'ttf-dejavu*' packages to debian/control file, for label printing (bug 8375)
00:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Master , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
00:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10807 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , OPAC: There is no authority search history
00:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1741 for job Koha_master (previous build: NOW UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1731 1 day 0 hr ago)
02:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1741: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1741/
02:24 jenkins_koha * Martin Renvoize: Bug 10798: make OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT behaves better with search groups
02:24 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 10798: (follow-up) replace tabs by spaces
02:24 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11287: make patron import tool take new restrictions system into account
02:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10798 trivial, P4, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , OPAC_SEARCH_LIMIT behaves badly with search groups
02:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: release notes for Koha 3.16.0-beta
02:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.15.00.051: mark Koha 3.16 beta
02:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11287 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Import borrowers doesn't take into account the new restriction system
03:02 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
03:03 mtompset @later tell cait I hope you don't mind that I switched the bug, bug 5010, back to you. My Koha development time is being scaled back.
03:03 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
04:09 rangi hi aleisha and cait
04:09 aleisha hi rangi
04:14 cait good morning
04:15 eythian hi cait
04:15 rangi cait: can you think of any good things for aleisha to test? (with the sandboxes)
04:16 cait hm sorry not from the top of my head... or wait
04:28 cait maybe 12168
04:28 cait 11430
04:29 cait 9088
04:29 cait 12110
04:30 cait 9724
04:30 cait 9732
04:30 cait hm 23sorry
04:41 aleisha thanks cait I will have a look!
04:41 cait no guarantees - but those look like the best candidates i can spot
06:50 alex_a bonjour
07:04 reiveune hello
07:10 mveron Good morning #koha
07:42 mveron Hi cait :-)
07:43 mveron cait: Is Bug 12192 a big problem for translating?
07:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12192 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Template toolkit code in HTML attributes is picked up into po-files
07:52 * mveron Has to head away
09:58 cait Joubu++ biblibre++ for updating the sandboxes
11:23 paxed blah. so many strings in templates are constructed using IF-ELSE-END
11:34 ashimema I'de best go do a pull then cait
12:03 cait ashimema: hm?
12:08 ashimema hello
12:08 wahanui hey, ashimema
12:15 francharb morning
12:19 oleonard Hi #koha
12:20 cait hola oleonard
12:26 oleonard gmcharlt++ # busy busy RM
13:10 rambutan @wunder 64507
13:10 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 16.1°C (8:10 AM CDT on May 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.69 in 1005 hPa (Rising).
13:10 rambutan @wunder boo
13:10 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on May 06, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:17 rambutan @wunder bangkok, thailand
13:17 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Patumwan Demonstration School, Bangkok, Thailand is 27.3°C (8:14 PM ICT on May 06, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
13:20 druthb @wunder 77098
13:20 huginn druthb: The current temperature in West U, West University Place, Texas is 22.1°C (8:20 AM CDT on May 06, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
13:25 rambutan @seen rangi
13:25 huginn rambutan: rangi was last seen in #koha 9 hours, 10 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <rangi> cait: can you think of any good things for aleisha to test? (with the sandboxes)
14:45 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12161: fix regression on serials receiving <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=acd0a91b112fa2368a6b4ccee570d4df044cfc71> / Bug 9063: rename num_biblios to num_records in addorderiso2709.{pl,tt} <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=51a4a5099f0846ad1289b51a3f314ffe62e4c4bf> / Bug 12185 - Remove extra "f" from parcel.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g
14:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #1742 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1731 1 day 15 hr ago)
14:53 mveron logfiles?
14:53 mveron @wunder allschwil
14:53 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 21.0°C (4:53 PM CEST on May 06, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
14:55 oleonard Wow, warm where you are eh mveron?
14:55 mveron oleonard: Near Basel, Switzerland...
14:59 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
14:59 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 17.8°C (11:55 AM ART on May 06, 2014). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Falling).
14:59 tcohen morning #koha, we've just had our weekly kohacon14 organization meeting
15:03 rambutan we're all ears
15:03 paxed mveron: re. bug 12192 - why is it invalid?
15:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12192 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED INVALID, Template toolkit code in HTML attributes is picked up into po-files
15:07 mveron paxed: I asked on on the list [koha-translate] and got the answer in comment 1.
15:07 paxed i commented on the bug already.
15:08 cait i think fixing it wouldbe good
15:08 mveron paxed: I was to fast then. Feel free to set it back to New.
15:09 cait but it's also good that you create aworking solution
15:09 cait hm working translation
15:09 paxed well, i get the feeling like why should i bother reporting any bugs like this in the first place...
15:12 mveron paxed:Sorry about. And please do. :-)
15:14 reiveune bye
15:20 cait i love seeing the scripts improved actually - and we should have those bugs
15:22 * mveron Changed Bug 12192 back to New
15:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12192 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Template toolkit code in HTML attributes is picked up into po-files
15:23 * mveron Has search results with "No Title" only OPAC and similar in Staff. Happend today after one of the latest Git pull. Full Zebra reindex did not help.
15:24 oleonard All results are "No Title" mveron or just some?
15:24 mveron oleonard: All results
15:24 oleonard Ooh me too :(
15:24 mveron Tables biblio and biblioitems seem to be OK
15:25 cait oh that doesn't sound good
15:25 cait i had that happen when unimarc was selected - no 245 for the xslt files
15:26 oleonard Same with XSLT on and off for staff client results
15:26 cait hm wonder what change it could be
15:29 mveron I did some things with XSLT on and off today... But is now set to default (2 places in Staff preferences, two places in OPAC preferences).
15:29 oleonard Bug 9612
15:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9612 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , SRU Response is different when DOM indexing is enabled
15:29 * mveron Has to head away again...
15:31 cait oleonard: ah yes, that looks likely
15:31 cait oleonard: could you file a note on the bug?
15:35 * oleonard has done so
15:35 cait thank you
15:36 oleonard I wish my staff wouldn't email me about problems with the web site with a subject line which says only "website"
15:36 cait heh
15:36 cait various
15:36 cait i hate varous emails :)
15:36 cait do you understand the callslip question on the list?
15:37 cait i am not sure i understand what a callslip is
15:37 cait and why it should be a problem with item leven holds
15:38 oleonard No I don't understand that either.
15:39 tcohen we have set the location of the conference (downtown), and the hackfest (campus)
15:39 oleonard khall: We already have more than one bug report about hold limits being broken
15:40 cait tcohen: :)
15:40 cait slides?
15:40 wahanui kf should be writing slides
15:40 cait good that kf is not here...
15:40 cait *sigh*
15:40 tcohen will update the kohacon14 page with a map
15:44 oleonard khall: Bug 4045
15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , No check for maximum number of allowed holds.
15:44 oleonard khall: Bug 6976
15:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6976 major, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, REOPENED , User hold limit can be avoided by users in OPAC
15:56 pianohacker yo
16:00 cait yo pianohacker
16:00 cait and bag
16:01 bag hey cait
16:01 pianohacker hi cait
16:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12163 - fix adding new quotes <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=646d2aa32584454e319c94816822c169921f5a76>
16:25 oleonard Joubu: I think jquery.textarea-expander.js is probably not necessary in admin/searchengine/solr/indexes.tt because modern browsers have this feature built in. I wonder if you agree?
16:26 oleonard Joubu: I don't have Solr installed so I can't directly test the functionality it adds to the template
16:26 Joubu oleonard: Hum, I don't know, I'll try
16:26 Joubu oleonard: you can test the view without Solr installed
16:27 cait i treid recently and got a perl error :(
16:27 * oleonard too
16:27 Joubu oleonard: just change the SearchEngine pref value to Solr and go on the admin/searchengine/solr/indexes.pl scrip
16:27 Joubu t
16:27 cait i did that - the pref
16:29 cait Joubu: The config index file (/etc/searchengine/solr/indexes.yaml) for Solr is not exist at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/SearchEngine/Solr/Config.pm line 52.
16:29 Joubu oleonard: yes, you have to copy the yaml config file
16:30 Joubu oleonard: I see a small change: with the plugin, the textarea is expanded on loading the page, without the plugin, the textarea is expandable but not expanded by default
16:30 Joubu cait: yes, you have to copy the yaml config file
16:32 oleonard Joubu: From where?
16:32 Joubu oleonard: from the repo: etc/searchengine/solr/config.yaml
16:33 Joubu oleonard: and the installdir value should be defined in your koha_conf
16:38 cait gmcharlt++
16:41 oleonard Thanks Joubu that worked
16:43 khall oleonard: got wrapped up in something else. As far as I know this bug is separate at least from the other holds bugs I've submitted
16:46 ashimema anyone know how to turn off ICU in a packages install?
16:50 magnuse is it on by default now?
16:50 * magnuse waves, btw
16:52 ashimema appears to be.
16:52 ashimema though I had to turn on DOM manually I seem to remember.
16:53 magnuse why would you want to turn it off?
16:53 cait ashimema: dom is now in the defualt i think
16:53 * magnuse is just curious
16:54 ashimema dom + icu in it's current state doesn't like matching authorities..
16:54 ashimema not without Colin's patch for phrase searching I beleive
16:54 pianohacker hi ashimema
16:54 ashimema hi pianohacker
16:55 cait ashimema: hm didn't go that in now?
16:55 ashimema Switching to packages has been a bit more piaful than I'de hoped..
16:55 ashimema not in yet as far as i can tell cait.
16:55 * magnuse waves to pianohacker
16:55 cait would be very very recent :)
16:56 pianohacker hi magnuse :)
16:56 magnuse cait, ashimema bug 10729?
16:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10729 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Support phrases-icu.xml in install and upgrade
16:57 ashimema so it has..
16:57 ashimema I look forward to it being in 3.16 :)
16:59 ashimema So.. is there any simple way to override zebra configs on a per instance basis in packages then..
16:59 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1742: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1742/
16:59 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 12185 - Remove extra "f" from parcel.tt
16:59 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9063: rename num_biblios to num_records in addorderiso2709.{pl,tt}
16:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12185 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Remove extra "f" from parcel.tt
16:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9063 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , When ordering from staged file '# Bibs' is empty
17:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #1743 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1731 1 day 17 hr ago)
17:04 pianohacker gmcharlt: Was convinced '$[a-z0-9] ' was exceedingly rare in marc records, but forgot about things like '$5 trillion'. Grr. Would it be reasonable to remove support for '$'? Rancor supports the fancy double cross thing, it just doesn't advertise support for it, would have to add a keyboard shortcut for it
17:05 gmcharlt pianohacker: one second while I check something
17:07 gmcharlt pianohacker: my suggestion is to adopt an idea from the Evergreen flat-text editor
17:07 gmcharlt use {dollar} to represent a literal dollar sign
17:07 gmcharlt and have the editor convert to/from on the fly
17:09 magnuse ashimema: there are some cnfig files in /etc/koha/sites/<instancename>/
17:09 wahanui Hmm. No matches for that, magnuse.
17:09 pianohacker gmcharlt: That's fairly reasonable... you're making a usability sacrifice either way, but I think dollar signs are rare enough it shouldn't be too bad
17:09 gmcharlt AIUI, MarcEdit does the same, so it will be a reasonably familiar convention a lot of folks
17:09 pianohacker ahhh okay good
17:10 pianohacker that's a pretty strong argument in favor I'd say, most people are going to try to use Rancor like MarcEdit
17:11 pianohacker gmcharlt: Also, should I tag my search-evisceration patch for bug 11559 any special way? My worry was that testers using git-bz would apply it as part of the batch
17:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface
17:13 gmcharlt pianohacker: I think it should just be part of the patch series for 11559, with a new bug opened, dependent on 11559, for the search feature
17:13 pianohacker Ah, okay, that's doable
17:13 gmcharlt and also, make sure that the end result is /not/ dependent on 10486 being applied
17:13 gmcharlt 10486 would (presumably) be another dependency of the new bug
17:15 cait bug10486
17:18 pianohacker ah, yes, bug 10486
17:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
17:19 pianohacker probably won't be able to get a patch/comments for that out until Thursday the way finals are going...
17:49 cait hm can someone remind me of the main diff between holds to pull and hold list?
17:58 pianohacker gmcharlt: just responded to bug 11559
17:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface
17:58 pianohacker have to go now, more school fun time
18:05 oleonard gmcharlt: Are you saying (on Bug 9612) that I should run "perl Makefile.PL" then "make update_zebra_conf" ?
18:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9612 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , SRU Response is different when DOM indexing is enabled
18:05 gmcharlt oleonard: correct
18:07 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gmcharlt: after running 'make update_zebra_conf'" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/18
18:08 gmcharlt oleonard: gah, sorry, I'm not being very complete
18:08 gmcharlt make
18:08 gmcharlt then make update_zebra_conf
18:13 chris_n gmcharlt: I'd appreciate any comments you may have on my latest assessment of bug 10821
18:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10821 major, P1 - high, ---, cnighswonger, RESOLVED WONTFIX, label pdf adding in strange breaking
18:13 chris_n and anyone else's for that matter as well
18:15 oleonard gmcharlt: Now I get no search results at all
18:15 gmcharlt not opposed
18:16 gmcharlt oleonard: did you restart the zebra server? and what's in its logs?
18:16 chris_n I think it is the only practical solution
18:17 gmcharlt I think there's room for parallel play on the L::C::LC front
18:17 gmcharlt but doesn't exclude what you're proposing in bug 12201
18:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12201 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Add the ability for the user to supply a callnumber splitting regexp for custom CN systems
18:18 chris_n munging up a regexp that could math n different flavors of LC seems a hard task
18:19 gmcharlt yeah, I'm thinking more along the lines of a separate routine for splitting call numbers that is /not/ regexp-based
18:20 gmcharlt chris_n: separaet matter - does prove -t/Creator.t on master pass for you?
18:20 gmcharlt er, prove -v t/Creator.t
18:21 * chris_n looks
18:22 chris_n Cannot detect source of 't/Creator.t'! at /usr/local/share/perl/5.18.2/TAP/Parser/IteratorFactory.pm line 261.
18:22 chris_n and ore
18:22 chris_n more even
18:23 chris_n err
18:23 chris_n syntax, eh?
18:23 * gmcharlt slaps forehead
18:23 gmcharlt (different matter)
18:24 chris_n when spelled correctly it does not pass on master
18:24 chris_n fails badly
18:24 chris_n not too badly, sorry
18:24 chris_n it fails test 14
18:26 gmcharlt OK, and now I'm seeing the same failure that you and Jenkins see, after having updating my koha-conf.xml
18:28 bgkriegel after make; make update_zebra_conf; restart zebra & full reindex I get results again
18:28 chris_n it looks like the test is expecting the wrong results
18:29 chris_n and the second return value is the y value iirc not the x value
18:29 * tcohen thinks debugging packages-related install scripts is a pain
18:30 chris_n actually it may be due to the new alignment code
18:30 gmcharlt yeah
18:35 * tcohen head to the IT guys for a SSD
18:38 chris_n actually it returns x-from and x-to
18:41 gmcharlt ok
18:41 chris_n that's really strange
18:41 chris_n not sure why its broken all of the sudden
18:41 gmcharlt StrWidth is calculating based on the predefined Helvitca font
18:41 gmcharlt but Text is adding text based on the *TTF* font
18:41 gmcharlt hence the discrepancy
18:41 chris_n ahh, right
18:43 oleonard Thanks bgkriegel, I was the full reindex step I needed.
18:44 bgkriegel yw :)
18:46 gmcharlt chris_n: OK, I know how to fix it
18:48 chris_n it looks like passing no fontname to StrWidth will result in it using the ttf font?
18:49 gmcharlt you can also path the path to the font file
18:52 * cait waves at mari
18:52 cait mario...
18:52 wahanui well, mario is the new systems person with ByWater
18:53 gmcharlt chris_n: I've just pushed a follow-up to make things happier
18:53 chris_n gmcharlt: we probably need a patron card module in bugzilla or some such
18:54 chris_n with myself as the maintainer
18:54 gmcharlt it's a bit ugly, though, so feel free to polish
18:54 gmcharlt chris_n: mind if I just expanded the description and scope of the "Labels" module?
18:54 chris_n not at all
18:55 chris_n I also was wondering about the qotd stuff
18:55 gmcharlt chris_n: done
18:55 chris_n tnx
18:56 chris_n gmcharlt: look fantastic from here :-)
18:57 gmcharlt bit too copy-and-paste from my POV
18:57 chris_n heh
18:58 chris_n the PDF::Reuse maintainer promised to include my mods in the next release of that module... many moons ago :-P
18:58 chris_n now he no longer responds
18:58 gmcharlt chris_n: we've been slowly taking over unmaintained Perl modules...
18:59 gmcharlt eventually CPAN will just be an extension of the Koha project ;)
18:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8375: (follow-up) adjust StrWidth to account for TTF fonts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7ef93e758850e991091e7268b8d1b1453082df4>
18:59 chris_n lol
19:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1743: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1743/
19:04 jenkins_koha * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 12161: fix regression on serials receiving
19:04 jenkins_koha * Robin Sheat: Bug 12163 - fix adding new quotes
19:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12161 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Serials receiving is broken
19:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12163 major, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Adding a new quote fails
19:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #1744 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1731 1 day 19 hr ago)
19:31 oleonard Why does the translation script create strings like 'msgid "%s %s %s %s None %s "' ?
19:32 cait hm, what do the comments say?
19:32 oleonard What do you mean?
19:32 cait are yo ulooking at the po file?
19:32 oleonard Yes
19:32 cait could you paste the full entry for the string?
19:32 cait with the # lines above?
19:33 cait or link to it?
19:33 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Example of curious entry in a po file" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/19
19:34 * chris_n accidentally discovers what ctl-q does in FF
19:34 cait hm interesitng
19:34 oleonard Will a person translating this be asked to translate "%s %s %s %s None %s" ?
19:34 cait oleonard: one moment :)
19:34 cait yes
19:35 cait oleonard: i am irritated by the 3 ends
19:35 cait normalle the structure makes a bit more sense
19:35 bgkriegel oleonard: constructs like [% IF () ][% some%][% ELSE %] text [% END %] will produce something like that, if text is between tags (<span>text</span>) then the text will sit alone, and other entry like '%s %s %s %s'
19:36 cait ah right
19:36 cait it sitill looks a bit weird
19:36 oleonard That sounds like it must be really annoying for translators.
19:36 cait because end end end else?
19:36 bgkriegel of course
19:37 cait bgkriegel: wouldn't some show as a variable normally?
19:37 cait in the comments?
19:37 bgkriegel yes, in comments
19:37 cait because the comments for this one look quite werid to me
19:37 cait trying to find the template line
19:38 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/categorie.tt;h=6a64c01b7b3063109008ee25bc49e4e5b3208e34;hb=f7ef93e758850e991091e7268b8d1b1453082df4#l360
19:38 cait hm
19:40 bgkriegel yes, that file
19:43 gmcharlt just tossing out an idea - would it be too annoying to let _('foo') be used to mark translatable strings in the templates?
19:44 cait hm i think it would be a lot of extra wrk
19:44 oleonard I believe druthb suggested something similar at KohaCon in Reno
19:44 bgkriegel in that case is preferable thar each text be inside some tag, then it will be picked alone, and not with all %s mess, they are left and removed by Bug 11631
19:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11631 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Make translation toolchain ignore useless translatable strings
19:50 cait I think some of the mess begins with trying to be clever/sparse with html tags
19:50 cait my favourite pet peve is building sentences with if else structues
19:50 cait modiy | edit | delete | something
19:51 * chris_n commends cait 's command of english idiom :)
19:52 oleonard It really seems like the process for extracting translatable strings doesn't really understand template toolkit tags
19:53 gmcharlt I agree
19:53 gmcharlt not everything needs to be wrapped in spans
19:54 chris_n anyone seen this before: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/tr_show_product.cgi?search=1
19:55 gmcharlt testopia?
19:55 wahanui testopia is https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Bugzilla/Testopia
19:55 gmcharlt it's been aready for a while, though not really used at present
19:57 cait I think maybe it still needs to learn some new tricks that we didn't have with htp?
19:58 cait chris_n: ... but making lots of typos tonight
19:58 cait too much writing in German over the last few days :)
20:01 oleonard cait: Too much? You are German after all!
20:13 cait 43 pages in onw word document too much
20:13 cait oh
20:13 cait now i missed him :)
20:43 rangi morning
20:43 rangi rambutan: you were after me?
20:44 cait morning rangi
20:44 tcohen morning rangi
20:54 rambutan rangi: not really, I just hadn't seen you for a while and wondered if you had been offline or somethin
20:54 rambutan g
21:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1744: FAILURE in 2 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1744/
21:09 jenkins_koha Galen Charlton: Bug 8375: (follow-up) adjust StrWidth to account for TTF fonts
21:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Pushed to Master , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
21:28 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8375: (follow-up) adjust another test case for change in fonts <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac3e5e514794825c088fad3cead5254029e52550>
21:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #1745 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #1731 1 day 22 hr ago)
22:23 eythian hi
22:24 cait hi eythian