Time Nick Message 23:56 * mveron Goes to sleep... Good daytime everybody... 23:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10791 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , cart image in prog & IE10 23:56 mveron IE -- see bug 10791 23:13 cait night :) 23:12 mtompset tcohen++ # lovely schmoyo 22:42 eythian later tcohen 22:41 tcohen thanks eythian, good night/day everyone 22:34 eythian /asking them 22:33 eythian I just don't like forcing a rename on people without telling them. 22:31 tcohen ok, i'm missing the debonf part, will check what galen did for the translation update 22:31 eythian the second part is b) 22:30 eythian tcohen: I think we should: a) have an optional (i.e. debconf-driven) conversion process that will rename the koha-associated apached configs to .conf, and have the scripts assume .conf but fall back if it's not there. 22:27 rangi well its really just Search.t failing 22:27 tcohen should all scripts just assume the .conf is there? 22:27 rangi down to only 3 failing tests 22:27 tcohen need to make a decision on handling the apache 2.4 thing 22:26 tcohen yes 22:26 eythian tcohen: you rang? 22:26 tcohen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcJFdCmN98s 22:25 wizzyrea now I'm gonna have the five guys song stuck in my head forever. 22:24 wizzyrea *nod* 22:22 rangi explains the massive airport 22:22 rangi i forgot atlanta had the olympics until i arrived 22:21 wizzyrea oh yea they are not terrible 22:21 rangi which arent bad either 22:21 rangi and einstein bros bagels 22:21 wizzyrea but I can't eat all of those things at the same time! 22:21 rangi within metres of each other 22:21 wizzyrea oh man. 22:21 rangi it has 5 guys, chipotle, and popeyes 22:21 rangi just go to atlanta airport 22:19 * wizzyrea realises that the only two things she misses from america are chipotle and five guys, immediately feels weird. 22:15 tcohen heh 22:15 wahanui peanut butter cups are good :)… I think we should bring cait - some snickers and reese's pieces 22:15 cait peanut butter cups... 22:15 pianohacker we may not have fine cuisine down, but we are all over peanut butter 22:13 cait meany 22:12 * pianohacker eats some peanut butter m&ms 22:11 wizzyrea hrmph. 22:11 wahanui kfc is just too far away now 22:11 wizzyrea kfc? 22:11 wizzyrea kfc 22:11 wizzyrea kfc is the worst american export. 22:11 cait tried it in berlin last year 22:11 * cait doesn't like kfc 22:10 pianohacker yeah, definitely less greasy. And the breading is much better 22:09 rangi a lot better than kfc, a bit spicy, and a lot less greasy 22:08 pianohacker cait: I agree, I could kill for a burger right now 22:08 pianohacker yup, but slightly more southern and better imo 22:08 tcohen isit like kfc? 22:07 cait the pictures look so yummy... *gets hungry* 22:07 pianohacker Indeed! Especially the chicken and biscuits 22:07 rangi popeyes is a lot better than i thought it would be too 22:07 rangi it most surely is 22:06 pianohacker five guys is pretty dang fantastic 22:02 rangi it was 22:01 tcohen Publik Draft House, looks great 22:00 tcohen :-D 21:59 rangi well apart from https://foss4lib.org/schoss/symposium/schedule-and-agenda 21:59 rangi what i did last week :) 21:59 tcohen hi rangi 21:59 rangi http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2014/04/30/atlanta-the-food-and-drink-version/ 21:58 huginn tcohen: eythian was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 17 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <eythian> e.g. I wouldn't be surprised if it requires yyyy-mm-dd 21:58 tcohen @seen eythian 21:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , plack scripts for developers 21:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7844: (follow-up) don't test koha.psgi for ability to compile (yet) 21:48 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11182: (QA followup) fix warning if itemBarcodeFallbackSearch set 21:48 jenkins_koha * Srdjan: Bug 11182: get rid of some warnings in circulation 21:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11182 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Warnings in circulation 21:48 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11182: (follow-up) improve initialization of the $waiting_holds variable 21:48 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11182: remove another warning in circulation 21:48 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11182: remove spurious logged warnings in circulation 21:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1722: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1722/ 21:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED INVALID, Simplify the import of members 21:35 mtompset This is regarding bug 5242. :) 21:34 mtompset As long as the format is mostly the same as the CSV, it should be possible. 21:34 mtompset There are Perl libraries which read excel files well. :) 21:34 mtompset cait++ # like the idea of directly importing from excel. 21:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC 21:08 pianohacker thanks so much for your work testing bug 10486 21:08 pianohacker cait++ 21:08 tcohen setting it to 'require all granted' works, but it seems we should void it :-P 21:07 tcohen the only missing piece (yet) is overiding the permissions set for <Directory /> on apache2.conf 21:05 pianohacker ah, excellent. Just wanted to make sure :) 21:05 tcohen pianohacker: yes, but there's a module called access_compat_module that helps on that front 21:04 pianohacker tcohen: there are apache config format changes though (in case you haven't run into that yet) 21:02 tcohen nevermind, libapache2-mpm-itk is built for apache2.4 21:00 * tcohen is thinking he never thought about forcing apache2.2 as dependency :-/ 20:59 tcohen thx 20:59 pianohacker yup 20:58 tcohen am i online? 20:56 tcohen i read the troubleshooting section when you mentioned on the list 20:47 wahanui on the wiki is more information about the packages 20:47 mtompset on the wiki. 20:47 mtompset Did you review my revisions to the package installation of rUbuntu? ;) 20:47 mtompset Yes, I saw the launchpad thing. 20:45 jcamins tcohen: agreed, but if you feel that the ifs are too weird, the || option would work. 20:45 tcohen mtompset, jcamins: a2enmod mpm_itk should be enough. It is just a bug under discussion on Debian 20:45 mveron :-) 20:45 * mveron ...and switches between individually styled branches... 20:45 mtompset Oooo... interesting. 20:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12162 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Add class="branchcode" to body tag to make OPAC CSS-styleable per branch 20:45 * mveron Did a proof of concept for branch specific CSS in OPAC - Bug 12162 20:44 tcohen i thought it was esier to read for the end user 20:44 mtompset jcamins: That be hideously unreadable to a novice. 20:43 tcohen they are 20:43 mtompset They do seem to be mutually exclusive. 20:42 jcamins tcohen: though... I guess if we know that the mpms are mutually exclusive, you could just print: sudo sh -e "a2dismod mpm_event || a2dismod mpm_worker; a2enmod mpm_prefork" 20:42 mtompset Though, one tiny comment... does it only run for Ubuntu? sudo isn't installed under Debian by default, last I checked. 20:42 tcohen it would ship with koha-create 20:42 mtompset Looks okay, since you aren't executing it automatically. 20:41 tcohen jcamins: thanks 20:40 jcamins tcohen: not too much. 20:40 tcohen mtompset: just started today heh, could you take a look at that function? 20:40 mtompset So, still working on getting Koha working glitch free under Ubuntu 14.04, tcohen? 20:40 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded. 20:40 pianohacker @later tell Joubu do you know of any good unimarc Z39.50 targets? Also, do you know if setting element set format 1.2.840.10003.5.1 is required for unimarc? 20:38 cait maybe email :) or later 20:38 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "too much?" (44 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15 20:38 cait It's really late here 20:38 huginn pianohacker: Joubu was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 54 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <Joubu> hello 20:38 pianohacker @seen Joubu 20:33 mveron ...and Good Daytime to everyone... 20:33 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 12.0°C (10:33 PM CEST on April 29, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 20:33 mveron @wunder Allschwil 20:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.1°C (10:25 PM CEST on April 29, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 20:28 cait @wunder Konstanz 20:28 tcohen hi cait 20:28 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 15.8°C (5:25 PM ART on April 29, 2014). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 20:28 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 20:28 cait hi tcohen 20:28 cait morning rangi 20:27 rangi morning 20:23 mveron Hi cait :-) 20:23 cait hi mveron :) 20:22 mveron Hi #koha 19:45 jenkins_koha Starting build #1722 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1706 9 days 2 hr ago) 19:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7844: (follow-up) don't test koha.psgi for ability to compile (yet) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=17a43f915909bef338e75f3807594fc97f62881f> 19:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11334 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add facet for home library 19:41 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11334: DBRev 3.15.00.038 19:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10893 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Location facet not working in UNIMARC 19:41 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11334: (follow-up) add spans for new facets 19:41 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11334: (follow-up) fix errors in database update 19:41 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11334: add ability to control which library fields are used for facets 19:41 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 10893: fix location facet in UNIMARC 19:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1721: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1721/ 18:50 mtompset I figured there was something case insensitive, but it is better to get the case correct in the code. :) 18:48 bgkriegel :) 18:47 mtompset bgkriegel++ #Thanks for the signoff and explanation. 18:47 cait :) 18:47 bgkriegel gmcharlt++ 18:46 pianohacker gmcharlt++ 18:46 cait gmcharlt++ 18:46 mtompset gmcharlt++ 18:45 mtompset Thanks for marking things as release candidates for 3.16. :) 18:45 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 18:35 pianohacker dammit, connection dropped for some reason 18:22 cait that's too bad 18:18 cait did we lose him? 18:18 cait hm 18:15 cait pianohacker: ping 18:03 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11182: (QA followup) fix warning if itemBarcodeFallbackSearch set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad8d567f18fa43b95cdc4baebc22f42659ee040e> / Bug 11182: get rid of some warnings in circulation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1ec753df7d7b8d0c86bd4b9459e864d82d0d999> / Bug 11182: (follow-up) improve initialization of the $waiting_holds variable <http://git 17:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #1721 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1706 9 days 0 hr ago) 17:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11518 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Add new method to Koha::Schema::Result::Item that will always return the correct itemtype 17:34 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11518: (follow-up) Make unit tests pass 17:34 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11518: (follow-up) retrieve syspref value using DBIC 17:34 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11518: (follow-up) Change method name from 'itemtype' to 'effective_itemtype' for clarity 17:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12100 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Messaging preferences did not save Days in Advance 17:34 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11518: Add new method to K::S::R::Item that will always return the correct itemtype 17:34 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 12100: (follow-up) fix regression 17:34 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 12100: ensure that messaging preferences displays saved Days in Advance 17:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1720: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 21 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1720/ 17:18 gmcharlt yes - IMO, the new editor by itself is a sufficient win to ship as an experimentally feature 17:18 pianohacker That's reasonable enough imo, just trying to get a handle on what you're thinking 17:17 pianohacker Ah. And ship the editor with no search? 17:17 gmcharlt or can you at least apply the Mace of Commenting to suppress mention? 17:17 gmcharlt to be direct: can to readily rip out the pazpar2 stuff into a separate patch 17:17 gmcharlt pianohacker: that's not going to look good 17:17 pianohacker gmcharlt: http://i.imgur.com/UBmJ66k.png 17:14 pianohacker cait: yeah... 17:13 cait pianohacker: really worried about the paging... once you are done talking rancor 17:13 pianohacker screenshot, one sec 17:11 gmcharlt no 17:11 pianohacker gmcharlt: Have you seen the current setup for when search is unavailable? 17:08 pianohacker indexdata-- 17:08 pianohacker gmcharlt: Yeah 17:08 gmcharlt pianohacker: yeah, from my POV it appears to be the primary blocker from getting at least part of rancor into 3.16.0 17:08 pianohacker gmcharlt: saw your note about search in rancor 17:07 pianohacker hey y'all 16:47 * cait waves 16:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11334: DBRev 3.15.00.038 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2740c42a7906a4af06c894cfbf7064032126dd4> / Bug 11334: (follow-up) add spans for new facets <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=128ff9ecbbff6ba68008f5407b256a5d9486e3db> / Bug 11334: (follow-up) fix errors in database update <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbbb88e9a32faf 16:03 cait bbl 15:55 reiveune bye 15:52 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10893: fix location facet in UNIMARC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81cc05cbd6ea31151a03989edd1ffb3f775c3582> 15:23 tcohen if we have a working set of scripts, we will need to provide different solutions for people installing on 14.04 15:22 tcohen https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734865 15:22 tcohen d*mn, they haven't fixed the apache2-mpm-itk install problem yet 15:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #1720 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1706 8 days 21 hr ago) 15:15 ashimema yeah.. I wondered about the database.. but the syspref fo xslt locations is already there ;) 15:14 ashimema the Bit I'm currently writing in koha is a secure way to access such files using koha permissions. 15:14 ashimema currently we setup sftp access, and get them to do that bit manually. 15:14 ashimema gmcharlt.. I'm also working on such a feature.. though this is more challenging.. 15:13 gmcharlt on the other hand, there's no reason why specific things like stylesheets couldn't be stored in the database instead 15:13 ashimema in this case, it's actually an accessible location for custom xslt style sheets.. to add into syspref. 15:13 gmcharlt ashimema: you will get bonus point from me by making it a general-purpose secure upload feature 15:13 ashimema depends.. some do 15:12 cait do you allow customers to upload? 15:12 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11518: (follow-up) Make unit tests pass <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ddab9e939bc632594110afdc95c198c8250557f0> / Bug 11518: (follow-up) retrieve syspref value using DBIC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a279079482d8feade90def6eaebd797dfcfc47c> / Bug 11518: (follow-up) Change method name from 'itemtype' to 'effective_itemtype... <http://git.koha-communi 15:12 ashimema not sure anyone else will want it.. but it's important for our operations at least. 15:12 ashimema currently I'm writing a script to setup a custom directory for uploaded xslt files. 15:11 ashimema it's a long list.. 15:11 ashimema lol.. that's already on there.. 15:11 tcohen ashimema: add indexing mode switching to the list 15:08 tcohen different instance, different listening port 15:07 ashimema one to add to the list of bits needing adding to pacakges for me ;) 15:07 tcohen there's the tricky part of choosing the ports 15:07 ashimema manual way it is then. 15:07 ashimema coolios.. 15:06 tcohen ashimema: cait is right, there isn't 15:06 cait i think there is not... but tcohen might know 15:03 ashimema (happy to do it manually.. just wondered if i was missing it) 15:02 ashimema am I missing somthing.. 15:02 ashimema I can't see a script to do it easily.. 15:02 ashimema enabling z39.50 server in packages.. 14:48 * cait starts reading back... 14:48 cait gmcharlt++ 14:34 ashimema gmcharlt++ 14:34 tcohen great gmcharlt 14:32 gmcharlt will be finalizing this shortly with the ones getting leeway 14:32 gmcharlt http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/buglist.cgi?keywords=rel_3_16_candidate&list_id=96954 14:29 tcohen before the release :-D 14:29 tcohen i don't think i'll manage to rewrite everything in perl 14:29 gmcharlt tcohen: that seems like it should cover it 14:29 wahanui gmcharlt: I forgot anything else 14:29 gmcharlt wahanui: forget anything else 14:28 wahanui anything else is a band aid 14:28 tcohen anything else? 14:28 tcohen and add a new patch that makes the upgrade change the file names 14:28 tcohen will check mpm_itk is enabled on koha-create 14:28 tcohen as you suggested 14:28 tcohen i'll default to using the .conf 14:27 tcohen i wanted to know if you have any preference on how to make our packages behave correctly with apache 2.4 14:26 gmcharlt tcohen: hmm? 14:09 wahanui release is the 22nd nz time every month 14:09 tcohen release? 14:09 wahanui dates are in format yyyy-mm-dd 14:09 tcohen dates? 13:30 tcohen gmcharlt: around? 13:15 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 16.1°C (10:10 AM ART on April 29, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 13:14 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 13:14 tcohen morning 12:44 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B 12:44 gaetan_B hello 12:42 magnuse \o/ 12:37 nlegrand o/ cait 12:17 cait hi francharb and nlegrand 12:15 nlegrand hey #koha 12:10 magnuse hiya francharb 12:08 francharb morning 10:25 mveron cait: Glad that it worked out :-) 09:57 cait mveron++ 09:57 cait and the name has special characters 09:56 cait i think they got it working picking the x entry from the list of printers 09:56 cait good to know! 09:54 mveron I changed the name, and then it worked as well. 09:54 mveron ...it did not work with a printe where a Umlaut was init's name like "Drucker Büro II" 09:54 mveron cait: Regarding silent printing on network printers, it works at my site with a coll similar to jsPrintSetup.setPrinter("Brother MFC-9450CDN Printer via LAN"): ...but... 09:27 cait khall_away: ping 09:26 ashimema really we need someone with the hardware to check it out>? 09:26 ashimema That first one is a bit challenging.. kivi is right.. 09:24 cait but we need the sign offs to proceed 09:24 cait i don't know if/when he has time 09:23 ashimema Is marcel still qa lead on it.. and just awaiting a sign-off then 09:23 ashimema yikes.. the multi-transport types stuff scares me.. 09:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11209 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Multi transport types: same messages are sent for a patron 09:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11867 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Multi transport types: Manage *_PHONE notices 09:19 cait bug 11867 and bug 11209 09:19 cait if someone is looking for a useful sign off... 09:17 cait ashimema++ 09:17 cait only 10 in the qa queue 09:17 cait i shoudl take a screenshot 09:12 BobB good night #koha 09:05 mveron Welcome :-) 09:05 cait i didn't want to make you work - more trying to say thank you for the feature :) 09:04 * mveron Will do some tests with a network printer... 09:03 cait yep, using htat - and they got it working, just triyng to make sure it uses the right printer now 09:02 cait that seems to be part of the problem 09:02 mveron cait: Regarding silent printing: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Setting_up_slip_printer_to_print_silently 09:02 cait it#s a network printer 09:02 cait mveron: they wanted to try a few things - hope they get it working 09:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12147 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Column width for action links on invoices too small 09:00 mveron cait: I just submitted a tiny patch for Bug 12147 :-) 08:59 ashimema pianohacker is a bit quick at the moment. 08:59 mveron cait: I think it's a JavaScript thing. I can have a look at it if they like 08:58 cait that was fast again 08:58 cait um... 08:57 pianohacker cait: sorry for spamming the crap out of your inbox, talk to you tomorrow :) 08:57 cait they are fighting a bit with selecting the slip printer - hope they can figure it out :) 08:57 mveron Great! 08:57 mveron Hi Cait :-) 08:57 cait mveron: i have a lbrary trying to get the silent printing working right now :) 08:56 cait hi mveron :) 08:56 mveron Hi #Koha 08:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Professional cataloger's interface 08:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC 08:56 pianohacker cait: followups on bug 10486 and bug 11559 08:56 pianohacker I want to know where this error he reported is coming from! 08:55 pianohacker asdfjkl 08:55 huginn pianohacker: dcook was last seen in #koha 5 days, 3 hours, 21 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <dcook> morning cait 08:55 pianohacker @seen dcook 08:37 BobB tab and enter keys alone don't seem to do it 08:37 BobB I'm looking at search results in particular 08:36 BobB how do you navigate around a koha page without using the mouse? 08:19 atheia ok, I'll wait before creating. 08:19 cait atheia: ... :) 08:19 cait I will pm it to you 08:18 cait emai looks ok 08:18 atheia I'm thinking I'll create a new account - to rule out email typos 08:18 ashimema hmmm 08:18 atheia So, I requested a new password, but that also didn't arrive… 08:18 atheia It sounds like it'll be good, pleasure's all mine :-) 08:16 cait agreed :) 08:14 ashimema ;) 08:14 ashimema atheia.. will be awesome to have you as a wrangler.. 08:13 atheia sorry — just got a delivery. Will try to set a password. Thanks for checking. 08:10 cait he will be around later i think :) 08:10 cait hi ashimema 08:10 ashimema morning cait. 08:10 ashimema poo.. I forgot to chase up galen again 08:09 cait atheia: did you already set a passowrd you could try now? 08:09 cait me neither 08:07 magnuse actualy not quite sure how it works with emails and passwords and whatnot 08:07 magnuse 2014-04-24 (User creation log); 12:14:54 . . Davidnind (Talk | contribs | block) created new account User:Atheia 08:06 magnuse http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/User:Atheia 08:06 cait magnuse: looks like it got confirmed to me, what do you think? maybe the email got lost? 08:06 cait i think i saw atheia 08:05 magnuse atheia: which username? 08:03 cait give me a second, need to finish an email first 08:03 cait i can check 08:03 cait i think you got confirmed 08:03 atheia Does anyone know where koha wiki registrations go? I signed up but never got a confirmation… 08:02 atheia indeed ;-) 07:59 cait i guess it never ends 07:58 cait and then it will be focused on bugs... 07:58 cait so... not quite there yet 07:58 cait we still have some that could go in 07:58 atheia Or is this only the start of the qa stress? 07:57 atheia Have things calmed down now a little (feature freeze was yesterday right?) 07:57 wahanui morning is, like, a state of cat 07:57 kivilahtio morning! 07:57 atheia morning cait and all 07:56 cait hi atheia 07:56 cait ? 07:56 kivilahtio how do you do voodoo? 07:56 kivilahtio hi cait! 07:56 cait hi kivilahtio 07:45 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (9:20 AM CEST on April 29, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 07:45 magnuse @wunder boo 07:44 magnuse hi cait and Joubu 07:44 magnuse one yay for every bug qa'ed... 07:44 Joubu hello 07:42 cait hi #koha 07:36 ashimema ? 07:35 magnuse yay 07:32 ashimema khall++ 07:32 ashimema looks like kyle did at least one that was on my list to finish up.. 07:29 ashimema damn.. meant to wake up early this morning and do a few qa 07:24 BobB so it seems you'll be right with the config on your testing server 07:23 BobB in 3.08 the default filter is GRS-1, not DOM 07:20 nc-th BobB: Thanks a lot. I am having problems using zebra-biblios-dom.cfg. The imported authority records wouldn't link to the bib records but using zebra-biblios.cfg on a testing server, they work fine! I am going to switch to zebra-biblios.cfg but couldn't find about the advantages / disadvantages. I am using Koha 3.08 07:16 BobB http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Switching_to_dom_indexing 07:15 BobB This might help: 07:15 BobB nc-th its a bit out of my field, but in the latest versions DOM is the default 07:13 nc-th zebra-biblios.cfg: iso2709.recordType:grs.marcxml.record //// marcxml.recordType:grs.sgml //// recordType:grs.xml 07:12 nc-th zebra-biblios-dom.cfg: recordtype: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config.xml ///// marcxml.recordtype: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config.xml //// iso2709.recordtype: dom./etc/koha/zebradb/biblios/etc/dom-config-marc.xml 07:12 nc-th Hi everyone. I have questions on the Koha configuration files..between zebra-biblios-dom.cfg and zebra-biblios.cfg. are there any disadvantages using one against the other? 07:07 BobB thx for the help guys 07:07 BobB the client had the wrong format in the field 07:07 BobB the patron import works as expected, re the expiry date 07:07 BobB back 06:59 wahanui bonjour, alex_a 06:59 alex_a bonjour 06:50 cait bbl 06:49 * magnuse too 06:46 cait :) 06:46 cait i wil keep fingers crossed 06:46 BobB i'll test that now and let you know what I find 06:45 BobB yes, I was wrong there 06:45 cait with / and the dateformat set to it, it should work dd/mm/yyyy 06:44 cait it's nothing koha knows 06:44 cait dd-... won't work 06:43 BobB something we seem to have some issues on 06:43 BobB at least this gives me an excuse to stop thinking about accessibility compliance .... 06:41 wahanui bidet, reiveune 06:41 reiveune hello 06:41 BobB ok, her format is dd-mm-yyyy, so we'll test with the other format as well 06:40 cait it shoudl be dateformat format... or database, i think both worked for me 06:40 eythian e.g. I wouldn't be surprised if it requires yyyy-mm-dd 06:40 * magnuse was thinking the same thing 06:39 eythian I wonder if it's expecting it in a format that you're not putting it in 06:39 BobB thx cait 06:38 BobB .... the list grows longer :( 06:38 cait same for the enrolment date 06:38 BobB then we may have to do more testing 06:38 cait if you leave it empty it shoudl calculate, but not if you have one in your csv 06:38 BobB oh did it? 06:37 cait we import patron data with expiry dates normally 06:37 cait hm it used to stick 06:37 BobB that's right isn't it? 06:37 BobB instead the expiry date is determined by the patron category definition 06:36 BobB I think it is true that a date of expiry entered in the spreadsheet will not stick 06:36 BobB hi cait 06:36 cait hi BobB 06:36 BobB I have a question about patron bulk patron import 06:35 magnuse someone needs to say something funny about BobB... 06:35 magnuse BobB!! 06:35 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant. 06:35 BobB magnuse!! 06:35 magnuse howdy BobB 06:34 BobB hi team koha 06:33 paxed and also mention that _() can only take a string literal, not a variable, as param, or that i18n tools won't find it. 06:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12138 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Use placeholders in translatable javascript strings 06:31 paxed should should edit that page to include the stuff in bug 12138 06:30 eythian hmm, actually, it's not really suited there. I'll put it there, but there perhaps should be something specifically talking about Koha:: vs. C4:: 06:28 cait i think the dev meetings will help 06:28 * eythian does that now. 06:28 cait i agree with paxed in that we need better communication on those kind of things and a bit of documentation 06:28 rangi cait++ 06:28 eythian it could just be added to PERL15 06:28 magnuse cait++ 06:27 * cait deprecates all the things 06:27 cait I want to move on and deprecate sqlhelper at the next meeting 06:27 cait after the last meeting 06:27 cait eythian: we just added the C4::Dates to them 06:26 paxed ...but will probably languish on the bugzilla forever. 06:26 wahanui coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines 06:26 eythian wahanui: coding guidelines 06:26 eythian Well, it'd be easy enough to add to the coding guidelines if it's not there already. 06:26 magnuse patches are welcome... 06:22 paxed why don't the modules in C4 say that? should have a comment on top... 06:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy 06:21 paxed bug 12072 06:20 rangi no, modules in Koha:: should not call modules in C4, apart from C4::Context 06:20 paxed well, i'm still annoyed that i'm seeing commits to C4 when i'm getting commented that nothing should be added to C4. 06:18 magnuse khall++ for persevering, cait++ for thorough qa 06:17 magnuse think of all the keystrokes we will save if everyone just said op instead of option! 06:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable 06:17 magnuse woohoo for bug 11703 06:17 eythian that was an odd thing in that patch 06:16 eythian +# Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your op) any later 06:16 eythian -# Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later 06:16 magnuse :-) 06:16 eythian at least, that's what git blame says 06:15 eythian 2007 06:14 magnuse eythian: when was that written ? 06:14 magnuse yes, there are 2684 bugs, but 1414 of those are enhancements 06:14 eythian > # FIXME: according to DBI doc, this may not work for Oracle <-- teehee 06:13 magnuse short url: http://bit.ly/1jbFV40 06:13 magnuse gah! 06:13 magnuse from=&chfieldto=Now&j_top=AND&f1=noop&o1=noop&v1=&format=table&action=wrap ? 06:13 magnuse e=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&deadlinefrom=&deadlineto=&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&votes=&votes_type=greaterthaneq&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&emailtype3=substring&email3=&chfieldvalue=&chfield 06:13 magnuse paxed: have you seen this table: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/report.cgi?x_axis_field=bug_status&y_axis_field=bug_severity&z_axis_field=&no_redirect=1&query_format=report-table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=In+Discussion&bug_status=Needs+Signoff&bug_status=Signed+Off&bug_status=Passed+QA&bug_status=Failed+QA&bug_status=Patch+doesn%27t+apply&longdesc_typ 06:11 cait paxed: i have workedwith other ILS - they all have bugs 06:11 eythian even the progress bar progresses 06:10 eythian wee, no more errors in the logs, marc import working, I think this patch might be about ready. 06:09 * cait waves back 06:08 * magnuse waves 06:06 cait noone as crazy? 06:06 cait hmpf 06:01 rangi but while cait volunteers, i cant imagine anyone wanting to run against her in an election 06:00 rangi the only person who has been in a role since it first started is nicole as documentation manager 05:59 rangi same with release managers, and translation managers 05:59 rangi there have been other qa managers in the history, there will be again 05:58 paxed (and where will this project be without her, if she qa'd half of the patches in this month alone?) 05:56 rangi for 3.18 the number has gone from 7 +1, to 8 + 1, so that will help some 05:56 cait i was hoping to take a look at the funds view things :( 05:55 cait my alarm didn't go off this morning... very annoying 05:55 paxed cait: <@rangi> thanks in no small part to cait passing qa on 73 05:54 rangi best way to get more things in, is find more people to volunteer to do qa 05:54 eythian ohh, I think I've fixed the marc import under plack bug 05:54 cait ? 05:54 paxed rangi: i _am_ fucking amazed, cait is awesome. 05:51 eythian you didn't even have to say her name 3 times before she appeared 05:51 rangi heh, psychic 05:51 rangi thanks in no small part to cait passing qa on 73 05:47 eythian That's like some kind of miracle 05:47 rangi yeah only 133 things were pushed into master in april (not patches, that was 166, but the number of bugs/enhancements/new features) it's pretty close to nothing 05:47 eythian holy crap, I just switch a koha installation over to LDAP and it appears to have worked first time. 05:20 paxed i won't even try a "heavy" modification, because there's no chance in hell it would get into master. 05:19 eythian So if I'm heavily modifying something, or doing something new, I'll put it in Koha::, and use that as a chance to remove the C4:: version if possible. 05:17 eythian it's not an attempt to do a big rewrite, as that would fail. Instead, it's to allow a gradual migration. 05:16 paxed no idea when C4 vs. Koha started, but the whole project should've been marked as "experimental" while it's going on. 05:16 eythian yeah, you're hitting old code done badly. Last time I did date formats for something (not Koha) I moved them from hardcoded into format strings in the database. 05:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy 05:14 paxed bug 12072 05:14 eythian well, C4 is the old namespace. New, properly abstracted things should go into Koha:: in general. 05:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11804 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , there should not be both a circ-menu.tt and a circ-menu.inc 05:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11885 normal, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Pushed to Master , Inconsistent HTML in MARC Details 05:12 paxed for example bug 11885 and bug 11804 - and the whole damn C4 vs. Koha thing. 05:11 eythian there's hopefully not too much of that going on, though it's definitely there in some of the older parts. 05:10 paxed copy-pasting code introduces bugs rather easily. 05:09 eythian I suspect we have more obscure use cases than many things too, so there are more corners for bugs to hide in because only two people in the world do something in a way that triggers it. 05:08 paxed yours is just yet another open-source software. mature one, even. so. 05:07 eythian all software has many bugs, ours are just public. 05:06 paxed quality? then how come some people have said koha has so many bugs. i'm thinking that too. 05:02 wizzyrea ^ 04:59 eythian it'd be nice to streamline it a bit, I just don't know how while still keeping quality 04:52 wizzyrea because it kinda is 04:49 paxed why do i feel like getting anything into master is such a damn fight? 02:35 mtj hey wiz, thanks for the heads-up 02:18 wizzyrea sorry for the late reply 02:17 wizzyrea since the merging was changed heavily for 3.12 02:17 wizzyrea mtj it might be in 3.12 as well 00:24 GINGER728 engage in tactics website game http://youtu.be/wS5zz9dmFJk MAGEGO