Time  Nick            Message
23:31 pianohacker     bye
22:40 cait            good night all
22:12 pianohacker     that is quite good, yes
22:10 bag             cait: HI
22:10 cait            hi bag
21:58 rambutan        passable koha server?  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/17/linode_ssd_ram_upgrade/
21:47 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11126 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Make the holds system optionally give precedence to local holds
21:47 bag             bug 11126
21:25 cait            obvoiusly... it's me trying to sign off and the pazpar2 misbehaves again
21:25 bag             yo cait
21:23 cait            indexdata--
21:21 jmsasse         bag that is
21:21 jmsasse         I'm still pretty green at this, can you open a chat window?
21:20 jmsasse         hey bag
21:20 bag             s up
21:20 bag             sorry to miss your ping earlier what
21:20 bag             hey jmsasse
21:17 pianohacker     it's a metasearch engine (collating proxy from z39.50/sru to the web, essentially)
21:17 jmsasse         I've seen a lot of references to it but never in action
21:16 jmsasse         I have no clue what pazpar2 does
21:16 pianohacker     I'm not matching a username to a face for you, though
21:16 pianohacker     yup :)
21:16 pianohacker     except trying to diagnose a slippery segfault in pazpar2
21:16 jmsasse         In CO, right?
21:15 pianohacker     good, good...
21:15 jmsasse         pianohacker: how' it going
21:05 jmsasse         su
21:04 pianohacker     indexdata--
21:04 jmsasse         bag: quick question for you
19:56 * cait          has a patch waiting for a sign off as well...
19:47 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11719 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use new DataTables include in serials templates
19:47 oleonard        Oh hey Bug 11719 needs signoff? I wonder if everyone knows?
19:46 pianohacker     cait: was trying to show which commit I had as HEAD on master
19:45 cait            pianohacker: ?
19:42 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12058 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OverDrive search results page doesn't show cart, lists, or login links
19:42 pianohacker     cait: no, bug 12058
19:09 khall           np!
19:09 oleonard        Okay thanks khall, that's what I suspected.
19:09 khall           I don't think it is. Including it was likely an accident
19:07 oleonard        khall: Is it used? If so, what functionality depends on the plugin?
19:07 khall           bye cait!
19:07 cait            bye khall :)
19:07 khall           go on
19:06 oleonard        Hey khall I was wondering about how jquery.dataTables.columnFilter.js is used in manage-marc-import.tt
19:05 khall           oleonard: ?
19:04 khall           I was about to bounce for the day, what's up?
19:02 oleonard        khall around?
18:56 cait            hm actually it partially works...
18:56 cait            hm.
18:56 cait            unsurprisingly, searh term highlighting for chinese characters doesn't really work
18:50 cait            i searched for: 中文
18:50 cait            i can reproduce the problem ith the z39.50 search
18:48 cait            oleonard++
18:47 cait            ok, i will do some tests, thx!
18:47 oleonard        cait: I still can't reproduce the problem, but the changes in the templates look fine to me.
18:47 clouso          I'll let you know after testing it.
18:45 clouso          thx!
18:44 talljoy         clouso, consider them sent via email
18:44 cait            thx :)
18:44 oleonard        I'm looking again cait
18:43 clouso          Can you still give them out, just in case :-)
18:43 cait            talljoy++
18:43 talljoy         your welcome.  Best of luck!!
18:43 talljoy         i have other commands for pulling out the catalog and items and users.  but sounds like you have that under control.
18:43 clouso          Thanks !!!
18:43 clouso          Excellent you save my life ;-)
18:43 talljoy         those three extracts will dump out the data and then you grab the files and you have serials data.
18:42 clouso          So I only have to execute those 3 query &
18:42 cait            oleonard: you weren't able to reproduce the problem - do the changes ok to you?
18:42 talljoy         but it gets it out!
18:42 talljoy         that will pull pull out the serial data that you then have to stitch back together.
18:41 talljoy         selprediction |dumpflatissue >serissues.data
18:41 talljoy         selcatalog |catalogdump -om -ka998 -lALL_LIBS >mhld.mrc
18:41 talljoy         selserctl |dumpflatserctl >serctl.data
18:41 clouso          I can have acess yes
18:41 talljoy         we have had libraries do it at the command line in Symphony.  i can get you those commands if you have access that way.
18:40 clouso          I think.  How can I do it in Symphony ?
18:40 talljoy         is the data similar to Symphony?
18:40 clouso          Yes
18:40 talljoy         precursor to Symphony, yes?
18:40 talljoy         extracting from unicorn.....
18:40 cait            talljoy: clouso has a migration related question... so I was thinking of you :)
18:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12071 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , javascript broken for a search with double quotes
18:39 talljoy         here i am!
18:39 cait            oleonard: looking at bug 12071
18:39 cait            talljoy maybe?
18:39 cait            i am sure even - maybe try asking on the mailing list?
18:38 cait            probably :)
18:38 cait            at least I don't and most peopl ehere won't - exporting serial data can be very different depending on the ILS
18:38 clouso          cait: anyone already did a migration of a Sirsi product ?
18:38 cait            clouso: sorry, we don't know the data structure of Unicorn
18:37 oleonard        Yes
18:37 cait            oleonard: you still around?
18:37 clouso          The 942$XXX dont existe for the serials.
18:37 clouso          Hi all, we are currently migrating from Unicorn to Koha.  How can we extract the items value for the serials ?  We successfuly extract the biblios with items but all the serials dont have any items tie to it.
18:25 pianohacker     happy easter :)
18:24 cait            happy easter :)
18:23 ashimema-mobile Think I better quit whilst I'm ahead. . Well. . Not too far behind at least
18:23 ashimema-mobile Has.. Bloody Android predictive text
18:23 * pianohacker   steps out of tardis
18:22 cait            had?
18:22 ashimema-mobile Any who, hope everyone had a great easter weekend
18:21 ashimema-mobile Lol
18:21 * cait          is even more offended by her silence not being commented on
18:21 pianohacker     text editors at dawn
18:20 * pianohacker   slaps ashimema-mobile with glove
18:20 pianohacker     I am highly offended at my "very cool" not being received
18:20 ashimema-mobile Sorry cait and pionohacker
18:20 cait            bad android irc, no cookie for you
18:20 ashimema-mobile Ack.. android irc not playing nice
18:04 reiveune        bye
18:00 AndroUser2      .
17:59 AndroUser2      Ls
17:58 kmo78           not sure really. i'm not much of a linux user but i know enough to get by
17:57 pianohacker     that's quite odd
17:57 kmo78           i think when i did an apt-get update it updated mysql and disabled the db
17:55 kmo78           i've updated my sources.list to include the squeeze files. Going to upgrade to squeeze and then try and go from there
17:52 kmo78           Strange. I wonder why innodb would have disabled.
17:51 kmo78           I'll check that out. thanks.
17:44 pianohacker     kmo78: check this out first: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9761166/1033-incorrect-information-in-file-database-name-table-name-frm
17:43 kmo78           and then upgrade from there
17:43 kmo78           maybe I should attempt to update lenny
17:41 pianohacker     A failed database upgrade on Koha's part would manifest as missing tables/system preferences/etc., not errors like that
17:41 pianohacker     It shouldn't; Koha doesn't touch the database files themselves, that's the MySQL server's job
17:39 kmo78           would updating koha mess up the mysql db?
17:39 pianohacker     yeah, mysql is unhappy
17:39 kmo78           When I run that I get this: mysqldump: Got error: 1033: Incorrect information in file: './koha/biblio_framework.frm' when using LOCK TABLES
17:38 kmo78           sudo mysqldump -u kohaadmin -p koha > mydatadump.sql
17:37 cait            kmo78: what did you run to backup?
17:37 pianohacker     We can help you with the upgrade and the rest, but MySQL is your first dragon
17:36 pianohacker     kmo78: If a bare mysqldump is failing, that's probably your first concern, and there isn't much we can do to help you, unfortunately
17:36 cait            sounds reasonable
17:35 kmo78           i was hoping to backup the db and move it to a new machine
17:35 kmo78           yes, it's a mess
17:35 kmo78           so i tried to do an update of lenny but it's not longer supported
17:35 pianohacker     good lord
17:35 kmo78           looks like its running on debian lenny
17:34 kmo78           I sshe'd into it and logged in as koha-console and tried to update through that
17:34 cait            but that might be different from your database problem
17:34 cait            i think you are missing a dependency
17:34 cait            and how did you update? is your installation using packages? tarball? dev?
17:34 cait            which version di dyou update to?
17:33 kmo78           I dont have very good documentation either
17:33 kmo78           I'm not really sure what version it was. I took over the administration of it recently from someone else
17:32 pianohacker     kmo78: what was your old version of Koha?
17:32 wahanui         rumour has it . is an integral part of the call number
17:32 pianohacker     what the heck.
17:32 cait            kmo78: what did you update to?
17:31 pastebot        "kmo78" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error when accessing site" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/217
17:30 pianohacker     kmo78: Can you still open Administration -> MARC bibliographic framework?
17:29 pianohacker     kmo78: hrm, that's a bit frightening. Looks like database corruption at first glance, though I haven't seen that error before
17:29 kmo78           I tried to update koha and I think they may have been what caused this issue
17:28 kmo78           I'm getting the following error: mysqldump: Got error: 1033: Incorrect information in file: './koha/biblio_framework.frm' when using LOCK TABLES
17:27 pianohacker     we can try, at least. Shoot
17:27 kmo78           I'm having some issues trying to backup my sql db. Anyone willing to help?
17:20 pianohacker     thanks :)
17:20 pianohacker     it shouldn't be too bad, just trying to figure out the best way to display/implement it so you can easily click to or tab into each field, and nicely separate all of the 1-character fields jammed together
17:19 oleonard        That's what I was thinking of, though I don't know how complex that is to implement
17:18 pianohacker     oleonard: seems like a good idea... make it so each control is just text until you click on it, at which point it becomes an actual dropdown?
17:16 oleonard        pianohacker: My first instinct is to wonder whether the form controls can be hidden until they are clicked
17:13 pianohacker     ha!
17:12 oleonard        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TytGOeiW0aE&feature=kp
17:12 cait            cool
17:12 pianohacker     torture++
17:12 pianohacker     and yes I'll be in for another 6 or 7 hours
17:11 pianohacker     cait: your input as a cataloger would be useful too
17:11 pianohacker     this... works but is a bit jankety. Have any ideas?
17:11 pianohacker     oleonard: http://i.imgur.com/4s9OBeR.png
17:09 pianohacker     oleonard: just added support for the xml fixed-field widgets to rancor, and my current implementation has the 008 field going over two lines; finding the screenshot I took
17:08 cait            i have tortured kyle some today and would like to omve on to torturing you in ab it
17:08 cait            pianohacker: are you around now for a bit?
17:07 oleonard        Sure
17:07 pianohacker     oleonard: If you have a second I'd like to bounce an interface question off of you (rancor related)
17:06 pianohacker     hi guys
17:06 * cait          waves at pianohacker
17:06 oleonard        Hi pianohacker
17:05 pianohacker     hi
16:43 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12058: make OverDrive search results page show cart, lists, and login links <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1e09cb0fa900964200f224cad771d95062bc48d> / Bug 9448: (follow-up) prevent unauthorized operator from bypassing check on forgiving... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc3f4d1c565a10330d87c067592a69fdd0d20620> / Bug 9448: DBRev 3.15.00.031 <http://git.
16:10 cait            hm yeah not sure what to do about that one
16:10 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 major, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy
16:10 oleonard        Thanks cait. After seeing Bug 12072 I wanted to make sure date sorting wasn't tied to date parsing.
16:09 cait            oleonard++ :)
15:14 gaetan_B        bye!
14:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10904 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , would like to limit patron update request management by branch
14:28 cait            i am working on bug 10904 right now
14:28 cait            speaking of it
14:24 cait            but that has its own set of other problems i guess
14:24 cait            ils-di works with user name
14:24 cait            only cardnumber
14:24 oleonard        I guess SIP authentication doesn't work with username?
14:24 cait            yeah i understand
14:23 oleonard        Our goal is to let people sign up online and begin using online services right away
14:23 cait            oh
14:23 oleonard        ...but if Koha generates a card number which doesn't match our standard card number length it won't work with some services.
14:23 cait            ah, i think i misunderstood
14:23 cait            could you, as a temporary solution, issue a new cardnumber to them when they how up at the circ desk? when they get there real library card?
14:23 oleonard        So we'll have to teach the users to locate their card number before they can start using those services
14:22 cait            aah
14:22 oleonard        Koha generates a username for online registrations, but the online services we connect to require the user to log in with a card number
14:22 oleonard        The card number situation is really troublesome for us. We want to start using the online registration feature but keep running into unforeseen roadblocks
14:21 * cait          hands oleonard cookies
14:16 oleonard        Oh nice, if you have autoMemberNum turned on it doesn't check the CardnumberLength system preference when generating a number
14:03 oleonard        ...which doesn't look at the CardnumberLength system preference when generating a new number...
14:00 oleonard        Looks like it happens in Members.pm, fixup_cardnumber
13:55 cait            hm, sorry I don't know
13:53 oleonard        Anyone know off the top of their head how Koha chooses a cardnumber for someone who registers through the OPAC?
12:41 cait            hi oleonard :)
12:41 oleonard        Hi #koha
12:39 ashimema        so it should affect both in my mind
12:39 ashimema        I'd agree.. forgiving a fine is essentially waiving it.
12:25 cait            quiet in here today
12:23 cait            ashimema?  someone else?
12:23 cait            thx chris_n
12:23 chris_n         I would think so since forgiving a fine is essentially waving it
12:22 chris_n         his fix is fine, and I think he can make it where I suggest and we'll be ok
12:22 cait            some other question: should a new premission for waiving fines also effect the 'forgive overdue fines' box on the check in page?
12:22 chris_n         and those are really limited
12:21 cait            so I appreciate the testing :)
12:21 chris_n         which is probably why there are only two perl modules dealing with it
12:21 cait            true no regressions and you know the code best
12:21 chris_n         pdf/postscript is all sort of magical in the first place
12:20 chris_n         yes, but not at the expense of regressions :-)
12:20 cait            the label code is a bit mysterious to me
12:20 chris_n         I fear there could be unintended side-effects as is
12:20 cait            my main interest is that we enable people to print labels with diacritics
12:20 cait            ok
12:19 chris_n         I have added a comment to that effect
12:19 chris_n         cait: the text alignment fix is in the wrong place code-wise
12:01 chris_n         ashimema: tnx
12:00 ashimema        so feel free to grab it chris_n
12:00 ashimema        having issues with servers here at the moment.
12:00 ashimema        indeed... so far I've just opened the bug in a tab, but not got to grips with it yet..
11:59 cait            maybe we should ping him, if he already started, so you don't double up
11:59 cait            i had asked ashimema ealrier to take a look
11:59 chris_n         :P
11:59 chris_n         its super confusing
11:59 chris_n         then both will be signed off and qa may proceed
11:59 cait            ok
11:59 chris_n         I will do the second one now
11:59 cait            that's the one it starts with
11:59 chris_n         yes, but one of two patches is signed off for that bug
11:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Needs Signoff , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
11:58 * chris_n       will try to do that in a moment
11:58 cait            bug 8375 is still needed
11:58 chris_n         acutally that's not completely true; it looks like the alignment patch needs to be signed off
11:56 chris_n         the rtl stuff needs obsoleted since it has its own bug now
11:56 chris_n         so I see no reason you could not qa it
11:56 chris_n         Kyle has signed off on the critical patch for 8375
11:56 chris_n         12068 is blocked by 8375
11:55 cait            but i wiould like to resolve the dependency on the blocked one
11:55 cait            i am not good with numbers
11:55 chris_n         no
11:55 cait            hm no another
11:55 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , label-create-pdf.pl Add support for RTL languages
11:55 cait            is blocked by another bug 12068 i think
11:55 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9854 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, BLOCKED , Add 'ttf-dejavu*' packages to debian/control file, for label printing (bug 8375)
11:55 chris_n         cait: it appears that khall has signed off
11:55 cait            bug 9854
11:54 chris_n         which will clear the way for 12068?
11:54 chris_n         so the patch adding ttf needs sign-off and passed-qa so that 9854 can be pushed?
11:52 chris_n         k
11:52 cait            the rtl is on a separate bug now
11:52 * chris_n       thinks the rtl should be separate
11:51 cait            i think it's a bit spread out on 3 bugs right now
11:51 cait            on the what still needs sign off
11:51 chris_n         cait: 8375 is a bit confused atm; are you seeking sign-off on just the ttf patch?
11:44 cait            thx :)
11:44 cait            ok
11:44 matts           Yeah, I think so
11:43 matts           hi cait
11:43 cait            do you know if Joubu is already on vacation today?
11:43 cait            hi matts
11:34 cait            Joubu: already on vacation?
11:19 cait            ;)
11:19 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , label-create-pdf.pl Add support for RTL languages
11:19 cait            ashimema: while you are on it... bug 12068
11:11 cait            :)
11:11 * ashimema      goes off to read the test plan.. if there is one
11:11 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12061 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , tmpl_process3.pl new features
11:11 cait            bug 12061....
11:11 ashimema        hmm, never played in that area of code..
11:10 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Needs Signoff , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
11:10 wahanui         bug 8375 is surposed to fix something, and it's on the right track, but not sufficiant to make utf-8 work.
11:10 ashimema        bug 8375
11:09 cait            so... can i persuade someone to sign off on 8375?
11:03 cait            feel free to bug me
11:03 cait            i am having a qa day
11:03 cait            ok all
11:02 cait            coolio, will update the bug thx
11:02 ashimema        british english... 'amount spent' sounds better to me
11:01 cait            i was wondering what's better: amount spent oder spent amount
11:01 cait            english speaker :) ashimema
11:00 kivilahtio      ssd awesomeness
11:00 kivilahtio      super fast!
10:53 fridolin        and so fast with SSD
10:53 fridolin        works great
10:52 fridolin        I've juste rinstall my laptop with Lubuntu 14.04, thats why i was not on chan this week ;)
10:51 kivilahtio      hiya fridolin
10:50 fridolin        hie all
10:13 ashimema        native what?
10:13 ashimema        ?
08:53 cait            ..
08:53 cait            hm so much for something small and easy
08:44 cait            native speaker around?
08:24 cait            thak you
08:24 marcelr         cait: will put it on my list..
08:24 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12019 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , funds displayed on acquisition home show funds of all branches
08:24 wahanui         somebody said bug 12019 was related to the owners being added
08:24 cait            bug 12019
08:23 cait            marcelr: could you maybe take a look at 12019? it's from Joubu and I signed it off - so we are out
08:17 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Display all basketgroups on one page, and new column aqbasketgroups.closeddate
08:17 * cait          is now looking at bug 11708 .... and then the other
08:07 wahanui         i heard dependency was actually for libgraphics-magick-perl.
08:07 cait            dependency
08:07 cait            oh
08:07 cait            hm, it looked so clean, but something is weird
08:02 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11988 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Display basket group close date on late orders
08:02 marcelr         bug 11988
08:02 cait            i will give 11988 a try
08:02 cait            hm
08:01 marcelr         so go ahead :)
08:01 marcelr         not picked a new one
08:01 marcelr         just finished 12058
08:01 cait            i have some time for something small right now, bigger ones later today i hope
08:01 cait            which one are looking at right now?
08:00 marcelr         only some small stuff for now
08:00 cait            marcelr: doing qa? :)
08:00 marcelr         hi cait
08:00 cait            marcelr: morning :)
07:32 cait            hi #koha!
07:32 cait            hi gaetan_B
07:30 gaetan_B        hello!
06:41 reiveune        hi marcelr
06:41 marcelr         hi reiveune
06:38 reiveune        hello
06:36 marcelr         hi #koha
03:43 mtompset        Have a great day, #koha.
03:43 * mtompset      waves good night.
02:56 dcook           Sounds good :)
02:55 dcook           wizzyrea: Ah, right. I forgot about that.
02:54 wizzyrea        (because we can't import .sql's anymore)
02:53 wizzyrea        dcook - I just updated the RDA framework on the wiki from a .sql to a .csv
01:38 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface
01:38 dcook           bug 11559
01:37 dcook           Huh...we have IE hacks even in the bootstrap CSS...
01:36 huginn          mtompset: The operation succeeded.
01:36 mtompset        @later tell jcamins What do you think of my thoughts on bug 9551?
01:35 mtompset        jcamins: You here?
00:20 mtompset        eythian: http://youtu.be/bHNczNvOnGc to counter your earworm.