Time Nick Message 23:31 pianohacker bye 22:40 cait good night all 22:12 pianohacker that is quite good, yes 22:10 bag cait: HI 22:10 cait hi bag 21:58 rambutan passable koha server? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/17/linode_ssd_ram_upgrade/ 21:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11126 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Make the holds system optionally give precedence to local holds 21:47 bag bug 11126 21:25 cait obvoiusly... it's me trying to sign off and the pazpar2 misbehaves again 21:25 bag yo cait 21:23 cait indexdata-- 21:21 jmsasse bag that is 21:21 jmsasse I'm still pretty green at this, can you open a chat window? 21:20 jmsasse hey bag 21:20 bag s up 21:20 bag sorry to miss your ping earlier what 21:20 bag hey jmsasse 21:17 pianohacker it's a metasearch engine (collating proxy from z39.50/sru to the web, essentially) 21:17 jmsasse I've seen a lot of references to it but never in action 21:16 jmsasse I have no clue what pazpar2 does 21:16 pianohacker I'm not matching a username to a face for you, though 21:16 pianohacker yup :) 21:16 pianohacker except trying to diagnose a slippery segfault in pazpar2 21:16 jmsasse In CO, right? 21:15 pianohacker good, good... 21:15 jmsasse pianohacker: how' it going 21:05 jmsasse su 21:04 pianohacker indexdata-- 21:04 jmsasse bag: quick question for you 19:56 * cait has a patch waiting for a sign off as well... 19:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11719 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Use new DataTables include in serials templates 19:47 oleonard Oh hey Bug 11719 needs signoff? I wonder if everyone knows? 19:46 pianohacker cait: was trying to show which commit I had as HEAD on master 19:45 cait pianohacker: ? 19:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12058 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OverDrive search results page doesn't show cart, lists, or login links 19:42 pianohacker cait: no, bug 12058 19:09 khall np! 19:09 oleonard Okay thanks khall, that's what I suspected. 19:09 khall I don't think it is. Including it was likely an accident 19:07 oleonard khall: Is it used? If so, what functionality depends on the plugin? 19:07 khall bye cait! 19:07 cait bye khall :) 19:07 khall go on 19:06 oleonard Hey khall I was wondering about how jquery.dataTables.columnFilter.js is used in manage-marc-import.tt 19:05 khall oleonard: ? 19:04 khall I was about to bounce for the day, what's up? 19:02 oleonard khall around? 18:56 cait hm actually it partially works... 18:56 cait hm. 18:56 cait unsurprisingly, searh term highlighting for chinese characters doesn't really work 18:50 cait i searched for: ä¸æ–‡ 18:50 cait i can reproduce the problem ith the z39.50 search 18:48 cait oleonard++ 18:47 cait ok, i will do some tests, thx! 18:47 oleonard cait: I still can't reproduce the problem, but the changes in the templates look fine to me. 18:47 clouso I'll let you know after testing it. 18:45 clouso thx! 18:44 talljoy clouso, consider them sent via email 18:44 cait thx :) 18:44 oleonard I'm looking again cait 18:43 clouso Can you still give them out, just in case :-) 18:43 cait talljoy++ 18:43 talljoy your welcome. Best of luck!! 18:43 talljoy i have other commands for pulling out the catalog and items and users. but sounds like you have that under control. 18:43 clouso Thanks !!! 18:43 clouso Excellent you save my life ;-) 18:43 talljoy those three extracts will dump out the data and then you grab the files and you have serials data. 18:42 clouso So I only have to execute those 3 query & 18:42 cait oleonard: you weren't able to reproduce the problem - do the changes ok to you? 18:42 talljoy but it gets it out! 18:42 talljoy that will pull pull out the serial data that you then have to stitch back together. 18:41 talljoy selprediction |dumpflatissue >serissues.data 18:41 talljoy selcatalog |catalogdump -om -ka998 -lALL_LIBS >mhld.mrc 18:41 talljoy selserctl |dumpflatserctl >serctl.data 18:41 clouso I can have acess yes 18:41 talljoy we have had libraries do it at the command line in Symphony. i can get you those commands if you have access that way. 18:40 clouso I think. How can I do it in Symphony ? 18:40 talljoy is the data similar to Symphony? 18:40 clouso Yes 18:40 talljoy precursor to Symphony, yes? 18:40 talljoy extracting from unicorn..... 18:40 cait talljoy: clouso has a migration related question... so I was thinking of you :) 18:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12071 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , javascript broken for a search with double quotes 18:39 talljoy here i am! 18:39 cait oleonard: looking at bug 12071 18:39 cait talljoy maybe? 18:39 cait i am sure even - maybe try asking on the mailing list? 18:38 cait probably :) 18:38 cait at least I don't and most peopl ehere won't - exporting serial data can be very different depending on the ILS 18:38 clouso cait: anyone already did a migration of a Sirsi product ? 18:38 cait clouso: sorry, we don't know the data structure of Unicorn 18:37 oleonard Yes 18:37 cait oleonard: you still around? 18:37 clouso The 942$XXX dont existe for the serials. 18:37 clouso Hi all, we are currently migrating from Unicorn to Koha. How can we extract the items value for the serials ? We successfuly extract the biblios with items but all the serials dont have any items tie to it. 18:25 pianohacker happy easter :) 18:24 cait happy easter :) 18:23 ashimema-mobile Think I better quit whilst I'm ahead. . Well. . Not too far behind at least 18:23 ashimema-mobile Has.. Bloody Android predictive text 18:23 * pianohacker steps out of tardis 18:22 cait had? 18:22 ashimema-mobile Any who, hope everyone had a great easter weekend 18:21 ashimema-mobile Lol 18:21 * cait is even more offended by her silence not being commented on 18:21 pianohacker text editors at dawn 18:20 * pianohacker slaps ashimema-mobile with glove 18:20 pianohacker I am highly offended at my "very cool" not being received 18:20 ashimema-mobile Sorry cait and pionohacker 18:20 cait bad android irc, no cookie for you 18:20 ashimema-mobile Ack.. android irc not playing nice 18:04 reiveune bye 18:00 AndroUser2 . 17:59 AndroUser2 Ls 17:58 kmo78 not sure really. i'm not much of a linux user but i know enough to get by 17:57 pianohacker that's quite odd 17:57 kmo78 i think when i did an apt-get update it updated mysql and disabled the db 17:55 kmo78 i've updated my sources.list to include the squeeze files. Going to upgrade to squeeze and then try and go from there 17:52 kmo78 Strange. I wonder why innodb would have disabled. 17:51 kmo78 I'll check that out. thanks. 17:44 pianohacker kmo78: check this out first: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9761166/1033-incorrect-information-in-file-database-name-table-name-frm 17:43 kmo78 and then upgrade from there 17:43 kmo78 maybe I should attempt to update lenny 17:41 pianohacker A failed database upgrade on Koha's part would manifest as missing tables/system preferences/etc., not errors like that 17:41 pianohacker It shouldn't; Koha doesn't touch the database files themselves, that's the MySQL server's job 17:39 kmo78 would updating koha mess up the mysql db? 17:39 pianohacker yeah, mysql is unhappy 17:39 kmo78 When I run that I get this: mysqldump: Got error: 1033: Incorrect information in file: './koha/biblio_framework.frm' when using LOCK TABLES 17:38 kmo78 sudo mysqldump -u kohaadmin -p koha > mydatadump.sql 17:37 cait kmo78: what did you run to backup? 17:37 pianohacker We can help you with the upgrade and the rest, but MySQL is your first dragon 17:36 pianohacker kmo78: If a bare mysqldump is failing, that's probably your first concern, and there isn't much we can do to help you, unfortunately 17:36 cait sounds reasonable 17:35 kmo78 i was hoping to backup the db and move it to a new machine 17:35 kmo78 yes, it's a mess 17:35 kmo78 so i tried to do an update of lenny but it's not longer supported 17:35 pianohacker good lord 17:35 kmo78 looks like its running on debian lenny 17:34 kmo78 I sshe'd into it and logged in as koha-console and tried to update through that 17:34 cait but that might be different from your database problem 17:34 cait i think you are missing a dependency 17:34 cait and how did you update? is your installation using packages? tarball? dev? 17:34 cait which version di dyou update to? 17:33 kmo78 I dont have very good documentation either 17:33 kmo78 I'm not really sure what version it was. I took over the administration of it recently from someone else 17:32 pianohacker kmo78: what was your old version of Koha? 17:32 wahanui rumour has it . is an integral part of the call number 17:32 pianohacker what the heck. 17:32 cait kmo78: what did you update to? 17:31 pastebot "kmo78" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error when accessing site" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/217 17:30 pianohacker kmo78: Can you still open Administration -> MARC bibliographic framework? 17:29 pianohacker kmo78: hrm, that's a bit frightening. Looks like database corruption at first glance, though I haven't seen that error before 17:29 kmo78 I tried to update koha and I think they may have been what caused this issue 17:28 kmo78 I'm getting the following error: mysqldump: Got error: 1033: Incorrect information in file: './koha/biblio_framework.frm' when using LOCK TABLES 17:27 pianohacker we can try, at least. Shoot 17:27 kmo78 I'm having some issues trying to backup my sql db. Anyone willing to help? 17:20 pianohacker thanks :) 17:20 pianohacker it shouldn't be too bad, just trying to figure out the best way to display/implement it so you can easily click to or tab into each field, and nicely separate all of the 1-character fields jammed together 17:19 oleonard That's what I was thinking of, though I don't know how complex that is to implement 17:18 pianohacker oleonard: seems like a good idea... make it so each control is just text until you click on it, at which point it becomes an actual dropdown? 17:16 oleonard pianohacker: My first instinct is to wonder whether the form controls can be hidden until they are clicked 17:13 pianohacker ha! 17:12 oleonard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TytGOeiW0aE&feature=kp 17:12 cait cool 17:12 pianohacker torture++ 17:12 pianohacker and yes I'll be in for another 6 or 7 hours 17:11 pianohacker cait: your input as a cataloger would be useful too 17:11 pianohacker this... works but is a bit jankety. Have any ideas? 17:11 pianohacker oleonard: http://i.imgur.com/4s9OBeR.png 17:09 pianohacker oleonard: just added support for the xml fixed-field widgets to rancor, and my current implementation has the 008 field going over two lines; finding the screenshot I took 17:08 cait i have tortured kyle some today and would like to omve on to torturing you in ab it 17:08 cait pianohacker: are you around now for a bit? 17:07 oleonard Sure 17:07 pianohacker oleonard: If you have a second I'd like to bounce an interface question off of you (rancor related) 17:06 pianohacker hi guys 17:06 * cait waves at pianohacker 17:06 oleonard Hi pianohacker 17:05 pianohacker hi 16:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12058: make OverDrive search results page show cart, lists, and login links <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1e09cb0fa900964200f224cad771d95062bc48d> / Bug 9448: (follow-up) prevent unauthorized operator from bypassing check on forgiving... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc3f4d1c565a10330d87c067592a69fdd0d20620> / Bug 9448: DBRev 3.15.00.031 <http://git. 16:10 cait hm yeah not sure what to do about that one 16:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 major, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy 16:10 oleonard Thanks cait. After seeing Bug 12072 I wanted to make sure date sorting wasn't tied to date parsing. 16:09 cait oleonard++ :) 15:14 gaetan_B bye! 14:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10904 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , would like to limit patron update request management by branch 14:28 cait i am working on bug 10904 right now 14:28 cait speaking of it 14:24 cait but that has its own set of other problems i guess 14:24 cait ils-di works with user name 14:24 cait only cardnumber 14:24 oleonard I guess SIP authentication doesn't work with username? 14:24 cait yeah i understand 14:23 oleonard Our goal is to let people sign up online and begin using online services right away 14:23 cait oh 14:23 oleonard ...but if Koha generates a card number which doesn't match our standard card number length it won't work with some services. 14:23 cait ah, i think i misunderstood 14:23 cait could you, as a temporary solution, issue a new cardnumber to them when they how up at the circ desk? when they get there real library card? 14:23 oleonard So we'll have to teach the users to locate their card number before they can start using those services 14:22 cait aah 14:22 oleonard Koha generates a username for online registrations, but the online services we connect to require the user to log in with a card number 14:22 oleonard The card number situation is really troublesome for us. We want to start using the online registration feature but keep running into unforeseen roadblocks 14:21 * cait hands oleonard cookies 14:16 oleonard Oh nice, if you have autoMemberNum turned on it doesn't check the CardnumberLength system preference when generating a number 14:03 oleonard ...which doesn't look at the CardnumberLength system preference when generating a new number... 14:00 oleonard Looks like it happens in Members.pm, fixup_cardnumber 13:55 cait hm, sorry I don't know 13:53 oleonard Anyone know off the top of their head how Koha chooses a cardnumber for someone who registers through the OPAC? 12:41 cait hi oleonard :) 12:41 oleonard Hi #koha 12:39 ashimema so it should affect both in my mind 12:39 ashimema I'd agree.. forgiving a fine is essentially waiving it. 12:25 cait quiet in here today 12:23 cait ashimema? someone else? 12:23 cait thx chris_n 12:23 chris_n I would think so since forgiving a fine is essentially waving it 12:22 chris_n his fix is fine, and I think he can make it where I suggest and we'll be ok 12:22 cait some other question: should a new premission for waiving fines also effect the 'forgive overdue fines' box on the check in page? 12:22 chris_n and those are really limited 12:21 cait so I appreciate the testing :) 12:21 chris_n which is probably why there are only two perl modules dealing with it 12:21 cait true no regressions and you know the code best 12:21 chris_n pdf/postscript is all sort of magical in the first place 12:20 chris_n yes, but not at the expense of regressions :-) 12:20 cait the label code is a bit mysterious to me 12:20 chris_n I fear there could be unintended side-effects as is 12:20 cait my main interest is that we enable people to print labels with diacritics 12:20 cait ok 12:19 chris_n I have added a comment to that effect 12:19 chris_n cait: the text alignment fix is in the wrong place code-wise 12:01 chris_n ashimema: tnx 12:00 ashimema so feel free to grab it chris_n 12:00 ashimema having issues with servers here at the moment. 12:00 ashimema indeed... so far I've just opened the bug in a tab, but not got to grips with it yet.. 11:59 cait maybe we should ping him, if he already started, so you don't double up 11:59 cait i had asked ashimema ealrier to take a look 11:59 chris_n :P 11:59 chris_n its super confusing 11:59 chris_n then both will be signed off and qa may proceed 11:59 cait ok 11:59 chris_n I will do the second one now 11:59 cait that's the one it starts with 11:59 chris_n yes, but one of two patches is signed off for that bug 11:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Needs Signoff , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF 11:58 * chris_n will try to do that in a moment 11:58 cait bug 8375 is still needed 11:58 chris_n acutally that's not completely true; it looks like the alignment patch needs to be signed off 11:56 chris_n the rtl stuff needs obsoleted since it has its own bug now 11:56 chris_n so I see no reason you could not qa it 11:56 chris_n Kyle has signed off on the critical patch for 8375 11:56 chris_n 12068 is blocked by 8375 11:55 cait but i wiould like to resolve the dependency on the blocked one 11:55 cait i am not good with numbers 11:55 chris_n no 11:55 cait hm no another 11:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , label-create-pdf.pl Add support for RTL languages 11:55 cait is blocked by another bug 12068 i think 11:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9854 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, BLOCKED , Add 'ttf-dejavu*' packages to debian/control file, for label printing (bug 8375) 11:55 chris_n cait: it appears that khall has signed off 11:55 cait bug 9854 11:54 chris_n which will clear the way for 12068? 11:54 chris_n so the patch adding ttf needs sign-off and passed-qa so that 9854 can be pushed? 11:52 chris_n k 11:52 cait the rtl is on a separate bug now 11:52 * chris_n thinks the rtl should be separate 11:51 cait i think it's a bit spread out on 3 bugs right now 11:51 cait on the what still needs sign off 11:51 chris_n cait: 8375 is a bit confused atm; are you seeking sign-off on just the ttf patch? 11:44 cait thx :) 11:44 cait ok 11:44 matts Yeah, I think so 11:43 matts hi cait 11:43 cait do you know if Joubu is already on vacation today? 11:43 cait hi matts 11:34 cait Joubu: already on vacation? 11:19 cait ;) 11:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12068 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , label-create-pdf.pl Add support for RTL languages 11:19 cait ashimema: while you are on it... bug 12068 11:11 cait :) 11:11 * ashimema goes off to read the test plan.. if there is one 11:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12061 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , tmpl_process3.pl new features 11:11 cait bug 12061.... 11:11 ashimema hmm, never played in that area of code.. 11:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Needs Signoff , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF 11:10 wahanui bug 8375 is surposed to fix something, and it's on the right track, but not sufficiant to make utf-8 work. 11:10 ashimema bug 8375 11:09 cait so... can i persuade someone to sign off on 8375? 11:03 cait feel free to bug me 11:03 cait i am having a qa day 11:03 cait ok all 11:02 cait coolio, will update the bug thx 11:02 ashimema british english... 'amount spent' sounds better to me 11:01 cait i was wondering what's better: amount spent oder spent amount 11:01 cait english speaker :) ashimema 11:00 kivilahtio ssd awesomeness 11:00 kivilahtio super fast! 10:53 fridolin and so fast with SSD 10:53 fridolin works great 10:52 fridolin I've juste rinstall my laptop with Lubuntu 14.04, thats why i was not on chan this week ;) 10:51 kivilahtio hiya fridolin 10:50 fridolin hie all 10:13 ashimema native what? 10:13 ashimema ? 08:53 cait .. 08:53 cait hm so much for something small and easy 08:44 cait native speaker around? 08:24 cait thak you 08:24 marcelr cait: will put it on my list.. 08:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12019 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , funds displayed on acquisition home show funds of all branches 08:24 wahanui somebody said bug 12019 was related to the owners being added 08:24 cait bug 12019 08:23 cait marcelr: could you maybe take a look at 12019? it's from Joubu and I signed it off - so we are out 08:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Display all basketgroups on one page, and new column aqbasketgroups.closeddate 08:17 * cait is now looking at bug 11708 .... and then the other 08:07 wahanui i heard dependency was actually for libgraphics-magick-perl. 08:07 cait dependency 08:07 cait oh 08:07 cait hm, it looked so clean, but something is weird 08:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11988 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Display basket group close date on late orders 08:02 marcelr bug 11988 08:02 cait i will give 11988 a try 08:02 cait hm 08:01 marcelr so go ahead :) 08:01 marcelr not picked a new one 08:01 marcelr just finished 12058 08:01 cait i have some time for something small right now, bigger ones later today i hope 08:01 cait which one are looking at right now? 08:00 marcelr only some small stuff for now 08:00 cait marcelr: doing qa? :) 08:00 marcelr hi cait 08:00 cait marcelr: morning :) 07:32 cait hi #koha! 07:32 cait hi gaetan_B 07:30 gaetan_B hello! 06:41 reiveune hi marcelr 06:41 marcelr hi reiveune 06:38 reiveune hello 06:36 marcelr hi #koha 03:43 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 03:43 * mtompset waves good night. 02:56 dcook Sounds good :) 02:55 dcook wizzyrea: Ah, right. I forgot about that. 02:54 wizzyrea (because we can't import .sql's anymore) 02:53 wizzyrea dcook - I just updated the RDA framework on the wiki from a .sql to a .csv 01:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11559 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Professional cataloger's interface 01:38 dcook bug 11559 01:37 dcook Huh...we have IE hacks even in the bootstrap CSS... 01:36 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 01:36 mtompset @later tell jcamins What do you think of my thoughts on bug 9551? 01:35 mtompset jcamins: You here? 00:20 mtompset eythian: http://youtu.be/bHNczNvOnGc to counter your earworm.