Time  Nick        Message
22:33 wahanui     hello, eythian
22:33 eythian     hi
21:25 francharb   bye all
21:10 wizzyrea    oh he's gone away
21:10 wizzyrea    oleonard: there are lots of things batch mod doesn't let you do
19:59 mtompset    Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha cait druthb francharb
19:59 mtompset    Got to run...
19:08 cait        I'd think
19:08 cait        while the total might be high
19:08 cait        because yo will not want to add more than x at a time
19:08 cait        i think adding is different
19:08 cait        hm
19:08 mtompset    -- bus time... need to pick up my son.
19:08 mtompset    But perhaps that it too low.
19:08 mtompset    I figure if they have an empty DB, they won't be adding more than 1K items for a given biblio.
19:07 mtompset    Trying to think of a reasonable way to calculate a soft upper limit.
19:07 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10473 major, P1 - high, ---, amitddng135, In Discussion , Max length should be 2 digit for adding multiple copies in add items page
19:07 mtompset    bug 10473
19:04 cait        not sure about the context?
19:03 cait        hm it hsould not be a hard limit I think
18:58 mtompset    Okay... So 1000 is a safe upper limit of items to add for a biblio at any given time?
18:57 cait        i think could be a few hundred then
18:57 cait        or textbooks in a bigger university
18:56 cait        it can grow to a lot when you have serials
18:56 mtompset    max number of items...
18:56 mtompset    What is the maximum of items for a biblio anyone has ever seen?
18:56 francharb   o/ mtompset
18:56 mtompset    Greetings, francharb.
18:56 mtompset    greetings, cait.
18:54 * francharb waves oleonard and cait
18:54 * cait      waves
18:54 oleonard    Hi francharb
18:54 francharb   hello
18:49 mtompset    Ah.
18:48 oleonard    mtompset: And as a hosted customer I don't get to run direct MySQL queries willy-nilly (which is, I'm sure, entirely proper)
18:47 mtompset    oh, well that seems like a useful enhancement.
18:47 oleonard    mtompset: Batch patron modification doesn't offer the option of modifying phone number at all.
18:44 mtompset    Don't put empty string, put space. ... or better yet, just do it in MySQL directly. :P
18:37 oleonard    Bah. Batch patron modification doesn't let me clear phone number.
18:33 huginn      gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.
18:33 gmcharlt    @later tell cait bug 11947 deserves quick QA
18:28 oleonard    select count(*) from borrowers where phone like 'no%'; 162
18:20 mtompset    Poor oleonard. :)
17:39 oleonard    Dear staff member who types "NO PHONE NUMBER" into the phone number field: I hope you're haunting me from the past, not the present.
17:28 mtompset    I think that is more of a tcohen question. ;)
17:21 * chris_n   guess not since head has the rewrite log lines commented out
17:21 chris_n     anyone noticed this: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_rewrite.html#logging
16:31 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11846: DBrev <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ffd90a1564328add63ce376a15b097707d5d66be> / Bug 11846: Correct database update for restrictions with date 9999-12-31 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6131d8e6094ae9e221a9d5750d744ed1f91dd85> / Bug 7143: Updating history with new developers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi
16:17 reiveune    bye
16:04 mtompset    bkg is making it hard to stay on top for April sign offs. :)
16:03 mtompset    Greetings, oleonard. :)
16:02 oleonard    Hi mtompset
16:01 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
14:43 kivilahtio  zebra search times are absolutely minimal, like 0.03s and zebra is the one running on ssd, others on hdd's
14:38 kivilahtio  rambutan: time is something I don't have :)
14:37 rocio       hey cait!
14:37 kivilahtio  some :)
14:36 rambutan    do you have a test system you can play with?
14:36 * cait      waves at rocio
14:33 kivilahtio  no effect from moving from unix sockets to tcp :(
14:28 kivilahtio  and it wrote maybe 110kB/s
14:28 kivilahtio  I mean the disk utilization was almost 0%
14:27 kivilahtio  rambutan: the disk i/o from iostat said 0%
14:27 rambutan    http://www.slideshare.net/dguttierrez/optimizing-linux-servers
14:27 rambutan    you might check these slides:
14:27 rambutan    it deals with the scheduler, in reading right now I see that cfq may not be the best
14:26 kivilahtio  +binary log forsafety
14:26 kivilahtio  they have the durability counters so they can be changed before they break
14:26 kivilahtio  and just running DB and Zebra on single ssd's
14:26 kivilahtio  rambutan: I lost the results during a OS reinstall, but I have been thinking of breaking the ssd-array
14:25 kivilahtio  rambutan: I got some crazy results and cpu usage went off the roof
14:25 kivilahtio  rambutan: I did stress tests on the ssd-array as i had a gut feeling it might not work as well as expected
14:25 rambutan    noop and deadline are recommended for ssd arrays
14:25 kivilahtio  rambutan: whatever that means
14:24 kivilahtio  rambutan: noop [deadline] cfq
14:24 kivilahtio  rambutan: I am using lxc without libvirt
14:22 oleonard    wahanui is trying to scare people
14:21 wahanui     i think deadline is today. The more the merrier I think. I should check times.
14:21 rambutan    or deadline?
14:20 rambutan    does "cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler" show noop?
14:17 rambutan    you migh also watch virt-top if you don't already
14:17 kivilahtio  rambutan: thanks! I have almost reconfigured so lets see!
14:13 rambutan    you might ask on #virt (OFTC). Nobody seems to talk there, but they have a lot of people logged on.
14:02 kivilahtio  jcamins: thanks for the tip, I'll try without bind mounitng
14:02 kivilahtio  apache processes should be idle? if accessing sockets is really slow
14:01 kivilahtio  but it doesnt explain the 100% CPU time on apache processes
13:59 jcamins     Okay, that's what I thought you were saying. 15s under heavy load would be fine.
13:59 kivilahtio  when under heavy load it is more then 45s
13:59 kivilahtio  under zero load
13:59 jcamins     Wait, it's 15s when under heavy load?
13:59 kivilahtio  oh noes
13:59 kivilahtio  but when I run stress tests, all I get is 100% cpu load for the search pages
13:59 jcamins     kivilahtio: https://github.com/dotcloud/docker/issues/2891
13:58 kivilahtio  jcamins: like this http://pastebin.com/3ScndBtW
13:56 kivilahtio  jcamins: and then bind mount those directories
13:56 kivilahtio  jcamins: so I prepared small 1GB partitions to share sockets
13:55 kivilahtio  jcamins: using shared mounts
13:55 jcamins     kivilahtio: you have lxc communicating via domain socket? I didn't know that was possible.
13:55 kivilahtio  so why is the search time 3x slower :)
13:55 kivilahtio  beats this server
13:54 kivilahtio  the desktop is on KVM
13:54 rambutan    that stuff should all work well together on the specs you have
13:54 kivilahtio  should be super fast
13:54 kivilahtio  all communicates via unix sockets
13:54 kivilahtio  zebra + opac + staff_cleint + mariadb
13:54 kivilahtio  rambutan: I am using lxc with koha separated to distinct containers
13:54 kivilahtio  I agree
13:53 rambutan    definitely. if it's not running well there's a problem somewhere
13:53 kivilahtio  rambutan: model name      : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 0 @ 2.90GHz
13:53 kivilahtio  I think we should have enough juice to run our library
13:53 rambutan    what cpu do you have?
13:53 kivilahtio  also 2x8core with hyperthreading so ubuntu says 32 cores :D
13:53 kivilahtio  might have to break the raid on them
13:53 kivilahtio  which btw work quite poorly
13:52 kivilahtio  rambutan: RAID1 ssd's on HP Raid controller
13:52 rambutan    reallly?
13:52 kivilahtio  rambutan: 128GB
13:52 rambutan    how much memory do you have?
13:52 kivilahtio  liw: but I can try try try. Heippatirallaa vaan
13:51 liw         kivilahtio, also, heippatirallaa
13:51 kivilahtio  liw: so true :) I don't know enough
13:51 liw         whether something is hard or easy depends on what you know, it's not a universal absolute
13:51 kivilahtio  but on my desktop, the same search takes 4s
13:51 kivilahtio  rambutan: top says that apache processes CPUs run at 100% when doing searches. Disk I/O is at ~0%, zebra and mysql at very low consumpiton. Power saving mode was on, thus CPU'h clocked to 1200MHz, now I managed to disable power saving and CPUs clock at 2900 MHz, but the difference in search time is neglible. Dropped from 15s to 10s.
13:51 rambutan    maybe Windows servers, but Linux is normally a piece of pie.
13:48 kivilahtio  rambutan: I would call it enigmatic
13:48 rambutan    well, yes, normally
13:48 kivilahtio  rambutan: do you find it easy?
13:48 kivilahtio  rambutan: hard :)
13:47 rambutan    hard?
13:41 kivilahtio  also configuring servers is hard :)
13:35 kivilahtio  searching for a keyword "koira" is 3x faster on AMD Bulldozer than on Intel Xeon
13:34 kivilahtio  which is kinda lame
13:34 kivilahtio  our desktops perform better than our server
13:31 huginn      druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 23.3°C (8:31 AM CDT on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).  Wind Advisory in effect from 10 am this morning to 9 PM CDT this evening...
13:31 druthb      @wunder 77098
13:24 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.7°C (3:15 PM CEST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
13:24 cait        @wunder Konstanz
13:24 rambutan    ha! colder here than in the Yukon, and we have .5" of snow.
13:23 huginn      rambutan: The current temperature in Whitehorse, Yukon Territory is 1.0°C (6:00 AM PDT on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
13:23 rambutan    @wunder whitehorse canada
13:16 huginn      rambutan: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady).
13:16 rambutan    @wunder boo
13:16 huginn      rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -0.9°C (8:16 AM CDT on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising).  Freeze warning in effect from midnight tonight to 9 am CDT Tuesday...
13:16 rambutan    @wunder 64507
12:13 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8797 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, In Discussion , can't delete quote of the day
12:13 * chris_n   looks for input on bug 8797 from anyone experiencing those symptoms
12:07 khall       unit tests pass and test plans work
12:07 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , AgeRestrictionMarker doesn't handle marker immediately followed by age
12:07 khall       I've added a patch to move the code to a sub and added unit tests for bug 11630, but I think it may be best if we had another qa'er go over my work.
11:41 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8
11:41 cait        Joubu++ also # bug 11944
11:37 cait        paola++
11:35 mveron      By #Koha
11:35 * mveron    Has to head away
11:31 cait        khall++
11:30 mveron      :-)
11:29 mveron      cait ++
11:29 mveron      khall ++
11:19 khall       mveron: if you are willing to move the code to a sub ( e.g. ParseAgeRestrictionMarker ) , I'll write the unit tests.
11:15 cait        really a bit torn about this one...
11:14 cait        a routine trying to figure out the price from the marc record
11:13 cait        as we recently had a bug where the new feature broke the old feature... similar to this
11:12 cait        mveron: i was looking at the patch again, and I think kyle has a good point that it would be cool to verify the old strings still work in addition to the new variation
11:08 paxed       'lo
11:06 mveron      Hi paxed  :-)
11:06 paxed       we should be live in less than 2 months, and there's still plenty to change.
11:05 paxed       i may have time to revisit the patch for that bug eventually, but for now, it works for us, so it'll have to do.
11:05 wahanui     mveron: huh?
11:05 mveron      wahanui: :-)
11:04 wahanui     Welcome to zombo.com
11:04 mveron      Welcome...
11:04 khall       thanks for the feeback!
11:03 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , AgeRestrictionMarker doesn't handle marker immediately followed by age
11:03 mveron      khall: I just commented on Bug 11630 (Age restriction for Finland).
11:01 mveron      Enjoy the time - it goes fast. My daughter is already 23... And was a baby short ago...
11:01 khall       thanks mveron!
11:01 mveron      Congratulations..
11:00 mveron      Hi khall :-) Concratulations to the young family!
10:42 cait        ah. yeah, dmydot would also be a bit more self explanatory
10:42 cait        maybe something like isodot
10:42 paxed       i used 'dmydot'
10:41 paxed       i don't think there is
10:41 cait        only thing i wondered i think was if there is an official name to 'our' dateformat
10:41 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 major, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy
10:41 paxed       cait: bug 12072 - ... slightly miffed, i guess. now it looks like i copied off of his patch :P
10:40 cait        is that a happy or an unhappy bah?
10:39 paxed       bah, bgkriegel sniped my bug.
10:37 cait        the unit tests are a good idea
10:37 cait        especially 9593
10:36 khall       np!
10:35 cait        khall: thx for the qa :)
10:19 cait        :)
10:18 khall       very different ; ) More diaper changing, less sleep ; ) But it's worth it!
10:17 cait        nice to have you around again - how is being a dad? :)
10:17 cait        hi khall!
10:16 khall       good day cait!
10:15 mveron      hi cait :-)
10:15 cait        hi mveron :)
10:02 mveron      Hi #koha
09:31 cait        yep
09:31 ashimema    module maintainers is still of interest to me.. look like a number of people have now volunteered..
09:30 cait        i was travelling too
09:30 cait        dev meeting next week - with elections
09:30 cait        i think it went well
09:30 cait        i think you just said: ashimema is...
09:30 ashimema    prague was lovely thouhg ;)
09:30 ashimema    how did meeting all go last week.. i havn't had a chance to go over the logs yet..
09:29 ashimema    who did that.. cheeky ;)
09:29 ashimema    hi cait..
09:29 cait        excellent wahanui ;)
09:29 wahanui     ashimema is on qa now .)
09:29 cait        hey ashimema
08:59 ashimema    behind you by 0.6 of a degree cait...
08:59 huginn      ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 11.3°C (9:52 AM BST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
08:59 ashimema    @wunder stevenage, uk
08:40 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.9°C (10:40 AM CEST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
08:40 cait        @wunder Konstanz
07:49 cait        good morning #koha
07:21 ashimema    Good morning #koha
06:28 mtompset    Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha reiveune
06:28 reiveune    :)
06:27 mtompset    Hello and au revoir, reiveune.
06:13 wahanui     hola, reiveune
06:13 reiveune    hello
05:51 mtompset    All should be good on 5010 now, cait.
05:03 mtompset    Good day (24 hour period). :)
05:03 cait        good night mtompset
04:59 cait        i have to run out in a minute, hope to work my way into the pile of qa things and bugs i have sitting in my inbox this week
04:59 mtompset    I'll fix it up, and then head to bed. :)
04:59 mtompset    or beginning.
04:58 mtompset    I think I missed a tiny bit at the end. :(
04:58 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Incomplete links in carts and lists sent from the staff client
04:58 mtompset    Oops... just re-reading my patch on bug 5010.
04:56 cait        it's a bug in my opinion, a bad one
04:56 cait        yes
04:56 mtompset    I've had intermitment oddness when I upgrade and my funds don't have an owner yet.
04:56 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12019 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , funds displayed on acquisition home show funds of all branches
04:56 cait        bug 12019 is related to the owners being added
04:55 cait        i saw your question in the logs
04:55 cait        hi mtompset
04:55 mtompset    Greetings, cait.
02:48 mtompset    Was there a patch pushed recently that add owners to budgets?
02:48 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.