Time Nick Message 22:33 wahanui hello, eythian 22:33 eythian hi 21:25 francharb bye all 21:10 wizzyrea oh he's gone away 21:10 wizzyrea oleonard: there are lots of things batch mod doesn't let you do 19:59 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha cait druthb francharb 19:59 mtompset Got to run... 19:08 cait I'd think 19:08 cait while the total might be high 19:08 cait because yo will not want to add more than x at a time 19:08 cait i think adding is different 19:08 cait hm 19:08 mtompset -- bus time... need to pick up my son. 19:08 mtompset But perhaps that it too low. 19:08 mtompset I figure if they have an empty DB, they won't be adding more than 1K items for a given biblio. 19:07 mtompset Trying to think of a reasonable way to calculate a soft upper limit. 19:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10473 major, P1 - high, ---, amitddng135, In Discussion , Max length should be 2 digit for adding multiple copies in add items page 19:07 mtompset bug 10473 19:04 cait not sure about the context? 19:03 cait hm it hsould not be a hard limit I think 18:58 mtompset Okay... So 1000 is a safe upper limit of items to add for a biblio at any given time? 18:57 cait i think could be a few hundred then 18:57 cait or textbooks in a bigger university 18:56 cait it can grow to a lot when you have serials 18:56 mtompset max number of items... 18:56 mtompset What is the maximum of items for a biblio anyone has ever seen? 18:56 francharb o/ mtompset 18:56 mtompset Greetings, francharb. 18:56 mtompset greetings, cait. 18:54 * francharb waves oleonard and cait 18:54 * cait waves 18:54 oleonard Hi francharb 18:54 francharb hello 18:49 mtompset Ah. 18:48 oleonard mtompset: And as a hosted customer I don't get to run direct MySQL queries willy-nilly (which is, I'm sure, entirely proper) 18:47 mtompset oh, well that seems like a useful enhancement. 18:47 oleonard mtompset: Batch patron modification doesn't offer the option of modifying phone number at all. 18:44 mtompset Don't put empty string, put space. ... or better yet, just do it in MySQL directly. :P 18:37 oleonard Bah. Batch patron modification doesn't let me clear phone number. 18:33 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 18:33 gmcharlt @later tell cait bug 11947 deserves quick QA 18:28 oleonard select count(*) from borrowers where phone like 'no%'; 162 18:20 mtompset Poor oleonard. :) 17:39 oleonard Dear staff member who types "NO PHONE NUMBER" into the phone number field: I hope you're haunting me from the past, not the present. 17:28 mtompset I think that is more of a tcohen question. ;) 17:21 * chris_n guess not since head has the rewrite log lines commented out 17:21 chris_n anyone noticed this: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_rewrite.html#logging 16:31 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11846: DBrev 3.15.00.029 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ffd90a1564328add63ce376a15b097707d5d66be> / Bug 11846: Correct database update for restrictions with date 9999-12-31 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6131d8e6094ae9e221a9d5750d744ed1f91dd85> / Bug 7143: Updating history with new developers <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdi 16:17 reiveune bye 16:04 mtompset bkg is making it hard to stay on top for April sign offs. :) 16:03 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. :) 16:02 oleonard Hi mtompset 16:01 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:43 kivilahtio zebra search times are absolutely minimal, like 0.03s and zebra is the one running on ssd, others on hdd's 14:38 kivilahtio rambutan: time is something I don't have :) 14:37 rocio hey cait! 14:37 kivilahtio some :) 14:36 rambutan do you have a test system you can play with? 14:36 * cait waves at rocio 14:33 kivilahtio no effect from moving from unix sockets to tcp :( 14:28 kivilahtio and it wrote maybe 110kB/s 14:28 kivilahtio I mean the disk utilization was almost 0% 14:27 kivilahtio rambutan: the disk i/o from iostat said 0% 14:27 rambutan http://www.slideshare.net/dguttierrez/optimizing-linux-servers 14:27 rambutan you might check these slides: 14:27 rambutan it deals with the scheduler, in reading right now I see that cfq may not be the best 14:26 kivilahtio +binary log forsafety 14:26 kivilahtio they have the durability counters so they can be changed before they break 14:26 kivilahtio and just running DB and Zebra on single ssd's 14:26 kivilahtio rambutan: I lost the results during a OS reinstall, but I have been thinking of breaking the ssd-array 14:25 kivilahtio rambutan: I got some crazy results and cpu usage went off the roof 14:25 kivilahtio rambutan: I did stress tests on the ssd-array as i had a gut feeling it might not work as well as expected 14:25 rambutan noop and deadline are recommended for ssd arrays 14:25 kivilahtio rambutan: whatever that means 14:24 kivilahtio rambutan: noop [deadline] cfq 14:24 kivilahtio rambutan: I am using lxc without libvirt 14:22 oleonard wahanui is trying to scare people 14:21 wahanui i think deadline is today. The more the merrier I think. I should check times. 14:21 rambutan or deadline? 14:20 rambutan does "cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler" show noop? 14:17 rambutan you migh also watch virt-top if you don't already 14:17 kivilahtio rambutan: thanks! I have almost reconfigured so lets see! 14:13 rambutan you might ask on #virt (OFTC). Nobody seems to talk there, but they have a lot of people logged on. 14:02 kivilahtio jcamins: thanks for the tip, I'll try without bind mounitng 14:02 kivilahtio apache processes should be idle? if accessing sockets is really slow 14:01 kivilahtio but it doesnt explain the 100% CPU time on apache processes 13:59 jcamins Okay, that's what I thought you were saying. 15s under heavy load would be fine. 13:59 kivilahtio when under heavy load it is more then 45s 13:59 kivilahtio under zero load 13:59 jcamins Wait, it's 15s when under heavy load? 13:59 kivilahtio oh noes 13:59 kivilahtio but when I run stress tests, all I get is 100% cpu load for the search pages 13:59 jcamins kivilahtio: https://github.com/dotcloud/docker/issues/2891 13:58 kivilahtio jcamins: like this http://pastebin.com/3ScndBtW 13:56 kivilahtio jcamins: and then bind mount those directories 13:56 kivilahtio jcamins: so I prepared small 1GB partitions to share sockets 13:55 kivilahtio jcamins: using shared mounts 13:55 jcamins kivilahtio: you have lxc communicating via domain socket? I didn't know that was possible. 13:55 kivilahtio so why is the search time 3x slower :) 13:55 kivilahtio beats this server 13:54 kivilahtio the desktop is on KVM 13:54 rambutan that stuff should all work well together on the specs you have 13:54 kivilahtio should be super fast 13:54 kivilahtio all communicates via unix sockets 13:54 kivilahtio zebra + opac + staff_cleint + mariadb 13:54 kivilahtio rambutan: I am using lxc with koha separated to distinct containers 13:54 kivilahtio I agree 13:53 rambutan definitely. if it's not running well there's a problem somewhere 13:53 kivilahtio rambutan: model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 0 @ 2.90GHz 13:53 kivilahtio I think we should have enough juice to run our library 13:53 rambutan what cpu do you have? 13:53 kivilahtio also 2x8core with hyperthreading so ubuntu says 32 cores :D 13:53 kivilahtio might have to break the raid on them 13:53 kivilahtio which btw work quite poorly 13:52 kivilahtio rambutan: RAID1 ssd's on HP Raid controller 13:52 rambutan reallly? 13:52 kivilahtio rambutan: 128GB 13:52 rambutan how much memory do you have? 13:52 kivilahtio liw: but I can try try try. Heippatirallaa vaan 13:51 liw kivilahtio, also, heippatirallaa 13:51 kivilahtio liw: so true :) I don't know enough 13:51 liw whether something is hard or easy depends on what you know, it's not a universal absolute 13:51 kivilahtio but on my desktop, the same search takes 4s 13:51 kivilahtio rambutan: top says that apache processes CPUs run at 100% when doing searches. Disk I/O is at ~0%, zebra and mysql at very low consumpiton. Power saving mode was on, thus CPU'h clocked to 1200MHz, now I managed to disable power saving and CPUs clock at 2900 MHz, but the difference in search time is neglible. Dropped from 15s to 10s. 13:51 rambutan maybe Windows servers, but Linux is normally a piece of pie. 13:48 kivilahtio rambutan: I would call it enigmatic 13:48 rambutan well, yes, normally 13:48 kivilahtio rambutan: do you find it easy? 13:48 kivilahtio rambutan: hard :) 13:47 rambutan hard? 13:41 kivilahtio also configuring servers is hard :) 13:35 kivilahtio searching for a keyword "koira" is 3x faster on AMD Bulldozer than on Intel Xeon 13:34 kivilahtio which is kinda lame 13:34 kivilahtio our desktops perform better than our server 13:31 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 23.3°C (8:31 AM CDT on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). Wind Advisory in effect from 10 am this morning to 9 PM CDT this evening... 13:31 druthb @wunder 77098 13:24 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.7°C (3:15 PM CEST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). 13:24 cait @wunder Konstanz 13:24 rambutan ha! colder here than in the Yukon, and we have .5" of snow. 13:23 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Whitehorse, Yukon Territory is 1.0°C (6:00 AM PDT on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). 13:23 rambutan @wunder whitehorse canada 13:16 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (2:50 PM CEST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 13:16 rambutan @wunder boo 13:16 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -0.9°C (8:16 AM CDT on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Rising). Freeze warning in effect from midnight tonight to 9 am CDT Tuesday... 13:16 rambutan @wunder 64507 12:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8797 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, In Discussion , can't delete quote of the day 12:13 * chris_n looks for input on bug 8797 from anyone experiencing those symptoms 12:07 khall unit tests pass and test plans work 12:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , AgeRestrictionMarker doesn't handle marker immediately followed by age 12:07 khall I've added a patch to move the code to a sub and added unit tests for bug 11630, but I think it may be best if we had another qa'er go over my work. 11:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 11:41 cait Joubu++ also # bug 11944 11:37 cait paola++ 11:35 mveron By #Koha 11:35 * mveron Has to head away 11:31 cait khall++ 11:30 mveron :-) 11:29 mveron cait ++ 11:29 mveron khall ++ 11:19 khall mveron: if you are willing to move the code to a sub ( e.g. ParseAgeRestrictionMarker ) , I'll write the unit tests. 11:15 cait really a bit torn about this one... 11:14 cait a routine trying to figure out the price from the marc record 11:13 cait as we recently had a bug where the new feature broke the old feature... similar to this 11:12 cait mveron: i was looking at the patch again, and I think kyle has a good point that it would be cool to verify the old strings still work in addition to the new variation 11:08 paxed 'lo 11:06 mveron Hi paxed :-) 11:06 paxed we should be live in less than 2 months, and there's still plenty to change. 11:05 paxed i may have time to revisit the patch for that bug eventually, but for now, it works for us, so it'll have to do. 11:05 wahanui mveron: huh? 11:05 mveron wahanui: :-) 11:04 wahanui Welcome to zombo.com 11:04 mveron Welcome... 11:04 khall thanks for the feeback! 11:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11630 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Failed QA , AgeRestrictionMarker doesn't handle marker immediately followed by age 11:03 mveron khall: I just commented on Bug 11630 (Age restriction for Finland). 11:01 mveron Enjoy the time - it goes fast. My daughter is already 23... And was a baby short ago... 11:01 khall thanks mveron! 11:01 mveron Congratulations.. 11:00 mveron Hi khall :-) Concratulations to the young family! 10:42 cait ah. yeah, dmydot would also be a bit more self explanatory 10:42 cait maybe something like isodot 10:42 paxed i used 'dmydot' 10:41 paxed i don't think there is 10:41 cait only thing i wondered i think was if there is an official name to 'our' dateformat 10:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12072 major, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Needs Signoff , New dateformat dd.mm.yyyy 10:41 paxed cait: bug 12072 - ... slightly miffed, i guess. now it looks like i copied off of his patch :P 10:40 cait is that a happy or an unhappy bah? 10:39 paxed bah, bgkriegel sniped my bug. 10:37 cait the unit tests are a good idea 10:37 cait especially 9593 10:36 khall np! 10:35 cait khall: thx for the qa :) 10:19 cait :) 10:18 khall very different ; ) More diaper changing, less sleep ; ) But it's worth it! 10:17 cait nice to have you around again - how is being a dad? :) 10:17 cait hi khall! 10:16 khall good day cait! 10:15 mveron hi cait :-) 10:15 cait hi mveron :) 10:02 mveron Hi #koha 09:31 cait yep 09:31 ashimema module maintainers is still of interest to me.. look like a number of people have now volunteered.. 09:30 cait i was travelling too 09:30 cait dev meeting next week - with elections 09:30 cait i think it went well 09:30 cait i think you just said: ashimema is... 09:30 ashimema prague was lovely thouhg ;) 09:30 ashimema how did meeting all go last week.. i havn't had a chance to go over the logs yet.. 09:29 ashimema who did that.. cheeky ;) 09:29 ashimema hi cait.. 09:29 cait excellent wahanui ;) 09:29 wahanui ashimema is on qa now .) 09:29 cait hey ashimema 08:59 ashimema behind you by 0.6 of a degree cait... 08:59 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 11.3°C (9:52 AM BST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 08:59 ashimema @wunder stevenage, uk 08:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.9°C (10:40 AM CEST on April 14, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 08:40 cait @wunder Konstanz 07:49 cait good morning #koha 07:21 ashimema Good morning #koha 06:28 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha reiveune 06:28 reiveune :) 06:27 mtompset Hello and au revoir, reiveune. 06:13 wahanui hola, reiveune 06:13 reiveune hello 05:51 mtompset All should be good on 5010 now, cait. 05:03 mtompset Good day (24 hour period). :) 05:03 cait good night mtompset 04:59 cait i have to run out in a minute, hope to work my way into the pile of qa things and bugs i have sitting in my inbox this week 04:59 mtompset I'll fix it up, and then head to bed. :) 04:59 mtompset or beginning. 04:58 mtompset I think I missed a tiny bit at the end. :( 04:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Incomplete links in carts and lists sent from the staff client 04:58 mtompset Oops... just re-reading my patch on bug 5010. 04:56 cait it's a bug in my opinion, a bad one 04:56 cait yes 04:56 mtompset I've had intermitment oddness when I upgrade and my funds don't have an owner yet. 04:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12019 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , funds displayed on acquisition home show funds of all branches 04:56 cait bug 12019 is related to the owners being added 04:55 cait i saw your question in the logs 04:55 cait hi mtompset 04:55 mtompset Greetings, cait. 02:48 mtompset Was there a patch pushed recently that add owners to budgets? 02:48 mtompset Greetings, #koha.