Time Nick Message 23:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11734 - Use new DataTables include in batch modification templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7349f847fad28ada0eb98cd5ebb44d563d7ee0f7> / Bug 11711 - Use new DataTables include in circ templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=612b33ae69adbed63e55c91f7314f6c2888f6d71> / Bug 11855: remove unused template file <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k 23:44 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11978 - Fix URLs displayed in OverDrive search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea5040bad2d3d0d298a9b27a95b81e2a3d7a9ad0> / Bug 9075: Rename "type" to "material type" on OPAC XSLT detail and results <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=007c94ff20a5c9d9c3121849b42f820a0da5b869> / Bug 9075: Rename "type" to "material type" on staff XSLT detail and results <http:/ 23:42 gmcharlt heh 23:41 wahanui OK, eythian. 23:41 eythian wahanui: use strict is <reply>http://wellington.pm.org/archive/200606/tdd/images/hindenberg_strict.jpg 23:41 wajasu i;m working in master 23:41 wajasu pulled it up 23:41 wajasu i looked in staff client for a book. for marc record cicked item tab. cut full call number, and pasted in opac callnum:BV 3265.3 .I525 2009 23:37 wajasu found callnum in zebra's ccl.properties but haven't had luck finding anything with it yet. 23:35 gml (I'm working on CCL querys from Search.pm subs) 23:34 gml callnumbers stored in 942$h and 942$i can be found through 'callnum'? 23:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7413: (follow-up) tweak description of the AllowRenewalLimitOverride syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6813e560f70c5efa2e7697876ba52e47c83c447d> / Bug 7413: (follow-up) teach renew interface about too_soon <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=26c79241868e981a0e3a90f9ce83d28f286ee285> / Bug 7413: (follow-up) add direct unit tests <http://git.koha-communit 23:28 wajasu let me see if i can try on my local db 23:28 gml wajasu: at what level can I use LC-callnumber or Local-classification? zebra internal settings files? (I just find something in the koha manual, but I don't know how to use these search indexes in the code) 23:24 gml comparing visible structure differences between imported vs created records, I don't see any ones in biblio.cn_class, biblio.cn_item, or even the ones stored in biblio.marcxml 23:15 wajasu LC-callnumber 050 vs callnum is Local-classificaiton 952$o i think 23:11 rangi then check what is different regarding the callnumber in both of them 23:11 rangi and if you can find imported ones, but not ones you have created 23:10 rangi but if you can find them searching by title, its not a matter of the job not having run yet 23:10 rangi cronjob 23:09 gml how zebra is updated after a newly record (in biblio or in items) is created with the GUI? this update occurs immediately or by means of a cronjob? 23:00 wajasu or LC-call-number 22:59 wajasu i wonder if Local-classification: will work. 22:56 gml yes I do, just tested title in intranet with advanced search 22:53 pianohacker gml: can you find newly created records using, say a title or keyword search? 22:52 gml I've noticed that callnum searches fail with newly records created with the cataloguing web GUI, but not with the batch-migrated records. 22:45 gml Hello guys, please someone could help me: Do you know reasons for failing the zebra search by 'callnum'? (other searches such as 'kw' or 'pn' does work normally, but 'callnum' doesn't) 22:30 wajasu that means i'll have to query each facet index sequentially, upon a ERROR 25. but that shouldn't be too much of a delay. (approx 6 zebra facet queries. 22:28 wajasu or Suppress 22:28 wajasu probably the same deal with noob with no records 22:28 wajasu ok. so for a query to succeed, even a zebra::facet query, one must have a result for that index. or else ERROR 25.. 22:25 rangi need to fix that sometime 22:24 wahanui kai ora, eythian 22:24 eythian hi 22:23 cait good night all 21:59 wajasu i wonder is my new indexes that don't currently exists for index : 0 should be called Subject-to vs su-to or Subject-geo vs su-geo 21:37 mtompset Thanks, gmcharlt. :) 21:36 gmcharlt mtompset++ 21:23 mtompset good night, magnuse. :) 21:22 cait good night magnuse 21:21 pianohacker good night magnuse 21:20 magnuse oh, well, time to sleep, have fun #koha! 21:20 magnuse that would be nice 21:20 cait subscription? :) 21:20 magnuse hehe 21:20 pianohacker Yeah, I could use a bulk delivery service of those 21:20 wajasu or maybe bitcoins 21:19 pianohacker oh! I'd never heard that phrase before 21:19 cait +1 21:18 ibeardslee Can someone get wahanui to give out round tuits for people that need them? 21:17 pianohacker round tuits? 21:17 magnuse i will have some evenings during easter, i'll see what i can do, but if anyone wants to beat me to it... 21:17 cait :) 21:17 magnuse pianohacker: i'd love to, but i'm running out of round tuits... 21:17 mtompset oh right... testing... got distracted. 21:16 pianohacker I'm just fishing for testers over here :) 21:16 * magnuse waves to cait 21:16 pianohacker hi, cait 21:16 * cait waves 21:15 pianohacker magnuse: I did implement a solution to your problem with using the editor without pazpar2 in the latest followup, btw. Any chance you could test it sometime soon, please? 21:15 mtompset Thanks. I tried. 21:15 rangi mtompset++ #good email 21:10 magnuse yeah, it can lead to confusion rather quickly, i fear... 21:10 magnuse so you can have say 008 position 06 be audience, but "a" in marc21 can mean adult, and it can mean teenager i nnormarc 21:10 pianohacker definitely not a good idea to mix them up then 21:10 pianohacker ohhhhh, gotcha... 21:09 magnuse marc 21 and normarc share the same 00x fields (well there are some in marc21 that are not in normarc), and the same positions in those fields, but the different codes mean different things 21:08 magnuse ooh... 21:08 pianohacker end of the monthe 21:08 magnuse when is feature freeze, btw? 21:08 magnuse yay! 21:08 pianohacker magnuse: very very soon, we're trying to get everything in before the feature freeze 21:08 pianohacker yeah, probably best to play it safe. Are the two standards similar enough that that might be a reasonable approach at some point in the future? 21:08 magnuse what's the timeframe for using the xml? 21:07 magnuse hm, my gut feeling is that it is better not to have "something that is not normarc" labeled as normarc... 21:06 magnuse lol 21:06 * pianohacker is making assumptions about marc standards, always a good idea 21:06 pianohacker there's a file called cateditor-widgets-marc21.inc; I can make cateditor-widgets-normarc.inc just import cateditor-widgets-marc21.inc for now, and then we can add widgets for the tags that are different. That way you at least have something 21:04 magnuse whaddaya mean "based on marc21"? 21:03 pianohacker magnuse: I can always just make the widgets for normarc based on marc21 for now 21:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10997 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, NEW , Modernize value_builders for NORMARC 21:03 magnuse and it means i should get cracking on bug 10997, if i only had the time 21:02 magnuse yeah, that sounds like a good plan 21:02 pianohacker magnuse: The initial release will require editing the coded fields verbatim, at least for UNIMARC. I'm working on supporting the XML format used for MARC21 006 and 008; then the UNIMARC plugins can be ported to that, which is to the benefit of both editors 21:01 magnuse pianohacker: did you decide on a good way to adapt rancor to unimarc and normarc? i never got round to talking about that in marseille... 20:53 pianohacker Well, not candy. But really nice pictures of candy from the internet! 20:53 pianohacker Free candy for all testers 20:53 bag who's going to test them? 20:49 gmcharlt pianohacker: great 20:49 pianohacker gmcharlt: rancor update; still working on fixed fields, but the rest should be ready. New set of patches ready for testing by anyone in the community 20:40 wajasu well. i'm making it minimal. 20:40 mtompset When you get it working and have a test plan that an idiot can follow, I'll test it. :) 20:34 wajasu but the 490a shows up if i do a Title search 20:33 wajasu must be some corner case. 20:31 wajasu but it might be because of the way the search query is done in "Library catalog" and "Author" selections in main search box. 20:30 wajasu mtompset: i am stuck with testing my 11232 patch. the Series facet doesn't seem to always show all the 490a for zebra facets compared to the current brute force way. 20:24 mtompset I like what you said, rangi. I think it is a decent reply. 20:23 rangi but now its time to do the school run 20:22 rangi we run into this all the time 20:22 rangi its the problem with the rfp process, there is no place to tell them all the things it does instead or as well as those things, so basically the only thing that can fill the rfp is their current system 20:22 rangi people only compare against what they know 20:21 rangi this is the problem 20:21 rangi probably something in athena 20:21 pianohacker What are supervisor and manuals, come to think of it? 20:20 rangi something like, its interesting you want koha compared against other open source systems. this is perhaps because this is the only thing you can actually reallly do, as with all the proprietary ones, you can't actually see the code, or the schema or anything like that. So you can't actually compare them. I have no doubt tho that in every feature, including security and borrower privacy Koha compares favourably to any proprietary system, Destiny included. 20:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra 20:20 wajasu its what is holding up my bug 11232 patch 20:18 wajasu its when i get a certain set of results, that my 490a Title-series disappears. for my zebra facets. 20:18 rangi on the mail list, comparing koha 20:18 mtompset usp? 20:17 rangi cant think of a nice way to reply to that usp email 20:17 pianohacker you're sighing meaningfully but vaguely 20:17 pianohacker wassup rangi 20:16 rangi *sigh* 20:11 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 20:11 rangi @later tell oleonard you should ping fridolyn, once its in 3.14.x then it can go into the other stables 20:09 wajasu i have 11 biblios in my test db. i specifically exported them with rebuild_zebra and i get a missing 490a with those 11 results. once i remove one from the list, the 490a appears (Title-series). this is for a zebra facets query 18:48 bag :) 18:48 wahanui que tal, magnuse 18:48 magnuse bag: HI 18:35 mtompset I prefer 3 spaces myself, but 4 is the koha standard. :) 18:30 druthb eh? 18:28 pianohacker druthb: you use 3-space indentation? 18:28 pianohacker oh, what in the seven 18:15 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 18:10 oleonard Bye #koha 18:00 oleonard Is there a notice for warning patrons in advance that their accounts are about to expire? 17:36 * wajasu divides and conquers to find a possible rogue biblio 17:34 pianohacker trw------- 17:34 pianohacker I don't want my sticky rolls to be have fully-open permissions 17:34 wajasu pianohacker: no sticky bit? 17:29 bag magnuse HI 17:26 pianohacker -rwxrwxrwx++ 17:25 pianohacker goddamn -rw-r--r 17:25 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 20.0°C (12:25 PM CDT on April 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 32%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect from 1 PM this afternoon to 7 PM CDT this evening... 17:25 druthb @wunder 77098 17:25 huginn druthb: coming after a ": 1, "people_who_don't_know_how_to_make_a_csv": 1, and "bag": 1 17:25 druthb @more 17:24 huginn druthb: "windchill": 3, "people_who_use_windows_xp_past_april_8": 2, "yui": 2, "css": 2, "Microfilm": 2, "<-": 2, "^": 2, "ie": 2, "district": 1, "hay_fever": 1, "windows_all": 1, "M$": 1, "windows": 1, "chainsaw": 1, "wifi": 1, "-rw-r--r": 1, "printer": 1, "network_fail": 1, "sinuses": 1, "seriously": 1, "out-": 1, "titles": 1, "d probably mean changing the interface a bit, e.g. having all the passed-on options (1 more message) 17:24 druthb @most decreased 17:24 pianohacker The config file format is pretty nice after years of apache 17:24 huginn druthb: "gmcharlt": 56, "cait": 50, "oleonard": 45, "eythian": 41, "rangi": 33, "tcohen": 28, "magnuse": 22, "fridolin": 19, "wizzyrea": 19, "ashimema": 18, "khall": 17, "jcamins": 15, "Joubu": 15, "bag": 14, "dpavlin": 13, "marcelr": 13, "paul_p": 8, "pianohacker": 8, "mtompset": 8, "wajasu": 6, "dbs": 6, "dcook": 6, "druthb": 6, "aleisha": 5, and "kivilahtio": 5 17:24 druthb @most increased 17:23 druthb nginx++ 17:23 pianohacker nginx++ 17:23 pianohacker also, 17:23 pianohacker hey druthb 17:23 druthb hi, bag! 17:23 bag heya druthb 17:15 pianohacker overdrive doesn't seem to have a way of getting any info out to devs like Amazon, so most likely! 17:13 oleonard Sure. Easy fix, easy test. I'll bet that API change screwed up lots of folks. 17:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11978 major, P1 - high, ---, jweaver, Passed QA , OverDrive API now prepends http:// to URLs 17:12 pianohacker Thanks for testing bug 11978 17:12 pianohacker oleonard++ 17:09 wajasu sometimes years, sometimes days 17:08 * oleonard confesses he does not know how long it usually takes things to make it into stable 17:08 oleonard (duplicate) 17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12049 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , DatePicker not translated 17:07 oleonard Because now Bug 12049 17:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11618 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , jQuery timepicker is not picked up by the i18n toolchain 17:07 oleonard Is there a reason why Bug 11618 is not getting pushed to the stable branches? 17:04 * wajasu waves 17:03 pianohacker hey #koha 16:56 wajasu i guess i can wittle throughthe 57 to see if certain one(s) are responsible 16:56 wajasu makes me wonder if having certain biblios can put the kabosh on some zebra logic/pipeline. dom filter. 16:55 wajasu weird. with my zebra facets search for books with 57 results i can't see a certain Title-series from 490a, but if i rebuild the index with just two of the biblios that have that Title-series, they show in my zebra facets. 16:19 magnuse ouch! http://heartbleed.com/ 16:15 reiveune bye 13:21 francharb thanks oleonard ! 13:21 oleonard Should just be available items. 13:21 francharb Should we see holds on checked out items in the hold queue? or, is it just holds on available items? 13:15 oleonard Wow I would never have guessed 13:14 paul_p oleonard = a lot of ppl speak french in Romania & Moldova. The woman who picked me up at the airport had an almost perfect french -and she's never been in France !- 13:07 oleonard Are you practicing your Romanian language skills? 13:06 paul_p if we win the RFP yes, exciting ;-) 13:05 oleonard Exciting! 13:05 paul_p (for a big EU project with moldovan universities) 13:05 paul_p arrived a few hours ago. 3 days of Koha demo starting tomorrow. 13:05 paul_p oleonard yes I am. In a really strange/new place those days: Chisinau, in Moldavia ! 13:04 oleonard ...and hi paul_p! I hope you are well :) 13:00 oleonard They just asked to be listed a few days ago, so they have no excuse. 12:59 paul_p oleonard (+link to the demo broken...) looks a little bit abandonned... 12:41 oleonard http://www.bibliorion.com/ 12:41 oleonard Wow it's been a while since I've seen an all-flash site. I never expected that from a Koha support company. 12:27 fridolin hie all 12:19 francharb morning 12:17 meliss hi oleonard 12:16 oleonard Hi #koha 10:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8735 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Expire holds waiting only on days the library is open 10:57 paxed ah. bug 8735 10:44 paxed looking at the code, it seems like CancelExpiredReserves() (that is, the ReservesMaxPickUpDelay syspref) doesn't seem to consider library closed dates at all? 10:23 magnuse yeah, with git bz you get that for free 10:13 atheia Most other bugs will have commit messages as comments. 10:13 atheia hmm, not sure whether the commit msg would then appear. If it hasn't I would add it. 10:11 paxed atheia: via web. 10:08 atheia Did you upload via the webform? 10:08 atheia paxed: the commit message should normally appear if you use 'git bz'. 10:03 paxed hm. should i comment on a bug with the patch commit message, if i uploaded the patch to bugzilla? (seeing how it doesn't automagically show the commit msg...) 08:40 cait hi magnuse 08:37 atheia Hi magnuse 08:36 * magnuse waves to cait and atheia 08:34 atheia Not too bad. Upgrades and such… 08:30 cait how are you doing? 08:27 atheia ;-) 08:26 cait on a train again...shaky? :) 08:24 atheia How's things? 08:24 atheia Morning cait 08:24 cait hi atheia 08:24 cait hi #koha 06:56 alex_a bonjour 06:53 magnuse bonjour france! 06:40 wahanui niihau, reiveune 06:40 reiveune hello 06:32 * wajasu signs off 06:30 wajasu thx. i'm just doing minimal changes. (additional indexes, without removing existing) 06:28 dcook thought he would* 06:28 * dcook thought he was just barge in with some librarian-ness 06:28 dcook Good luck in any case. 06:28 dcook Tough to say without looking further, and I'm crazy busy. 06:27 dcook Actually, I think my idea could work, since "biblio-zebra-indexdefs.xsl" is parsing the whole MARC record. It's just an extra bit of XPath. Of course, I'm not sure it's a great idea to start playing around too much.. 06:27 wajasu i tried making a new distinct index called Series : 0 but still don't see my 490a. One thing is there is also a 490 index. I'll try to comment that out to see if its interfering. 06:26 dcook I suppose you could always use both 06:26 dcook But it would be nice to use an authority when available.. 06:26 dcook You need 490 for the cases when you don't have an 830... 06:26 dcook The 490/830 thing is interesting. 06:25 wajasu i think i'm getting pipped. 06:25 dcook Good. You won't want to retrieve it. 06:25 dcook It might depend on where you've placed it. As paul_p mentioned on Bugzilla, you might be getting pipped by another index 06:24 wajasu well, that would mean i would have to retrieve the marc record to decide. and i am not retrieving it yet. 06:24 dcook That is, if the series isn't traced, use 490. If it is traced, use 830. 06:24 wajasu i got all the facets looking like the current implementation, but for series, i seem not to get one book's 490a. i have an index in that for Title-series:0, which i use for the element set name, and can't seem to get it to show. 06:22 dcook I haven't looked at the DOM indexing stuff, but if a person can play with indicators... 06:22 dcook The 830 will have the authorized form, where an authorized form is available. 06:22 dcook The 490 is always going to have the series statement (in theory) 06:22 dcook Actually...what you might be able to do... 06:21 dcook If you're getting more hits on 830, your data might be off 06:21 dcook They should use 490 06:21 wajasu i think i see both series titles in the details page which might use 830a. but the current facets use 490a 06:21 dcook Not legacy data. "Current" data. 06:21 dcook Ah, my mistake. Sorry 'bout that ;) 06:20 dcook Actually, I better doublecheck that :p 06:20 wajasu 830a is legacy? 06:20 dcook wajasu: That would be legacy data 06:20 wajasu ok. just want to be sure. 06:19 dcook Noope 06:19 wajasu for facets 06:19 wajasu i also wonder if we should use 830a instead of 490a. I seem to see the same series title in both, but get more results with 830a. 06:18 magnuse learning is good, right? ;-) 06:16 wajasu i did not think i would have to learn so much about zebra. 06:16 wajasu i think its got to do with the facet that the general search box does a @attr 1=6 word list search, while the 490a series title might only be in the : p register. 06:14 wajasu eythian++ 06:14 magnuse eythian++ 06:14 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse 06:14 magnuse eythian: awesome! 06:14 wajasu i've kind of got the zebra facets working, but i can't get the 490a Title-series : 0 to show in the Series facet section. 06:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12041 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Improve Koha::Cache 06:14 eythian bug 12041 06:13 eythian I just redid koha::cache to make it work better 06:13 eythian magnuse: yeah, I'm tracking down the issues and sorting them. 06:13 eythian later 06:13 magnuse ooh, "Support for plackifying the staff client" 06:13 mtompset Have a great day, #koha, eythian wizzyrea dcook magnuse 06:13 eythian you might be able to use koha gitify in conjunction with it, I'm not sure. 06:12 * mtompset dreams. :) 06:12 mtompset I'll have to look at it later. Perhaps it will be obvious for me to tweak to work on my git. 06:11 eythian I manually made mine work with both 06:11 eythian yeah 06:11 mtompset Quick question before I sleep, eythian. :) So, this plackify works on the packages, not a git? 06:02 magnuse hiya dcook 06:02 dcook heya magnuse :) 06:01 dac Wha, I quit? 06:00 * magnuse waves 06:00 wahanui kai ora, magnuse 06:00 magnuse bag: HI 05:10 bag UCONN!!!! 04:36 eythian it's very alpha 04:36 eythian http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?p=koha-plack.git 04:36 eythian yes 04:34 mtompset koha-plackify? 04:33 mtompset is port 11211 the default memcached port? 04:31 eythian which is something that koha-plackify can do 04:31 eythian and then you need to set up the environment vars 04:30 eythian -h 04:30 eythian apt-get install memchached 04:29 mtompset documentation url? 04:28 eythian memcache is easy 04:27 mtompset If only I could figure out how to install plack and memcache, I'd test your patch. 04:03 dcook eythian++ 04:02 wizzyrea eythian++ 03:59 eythian phew, caching system heavily modified, and all the tests pass. 03:59 wizzyrea this sounds like what koha does already 03:58 Alias let's do first with show a database on a screen 03:55 wizzyrea besides "show things on a screen" because that is not a great amount of information 03:55 wizzyrea what do you want your module to do? 03:51 Alias you know, I'm a student. And my exercise is add a module to koha, it can connect to any database. 03:49 wajasu picture is worth... 03:49 mtompset Yes, that's a good start at getting the books in. :) 03:49 wajasu http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/02/29/altering-marc-records-in-marcedit-before-importing-in-to-koha/ 03:49 wajasu Alias: http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/04/11/importing-marc-records-in-to-koha-3-8/ 03:48 wizzyrea well, I'm trying to think of someone who can help you in your language - that'll be easier. 03:48 Alias connected and show it on a webpage 03:47 Alias can you help me? 03:47 Alias " have records for books and people and stuff from another database that you want to put into Koha" 03:46 wizzyrea when you're bored. 03:46 wizzyrea well no 03:46 eythian erm. Maybe, though not right now. 03:46 wizzyrea :) 03:46 wahanui MARC is the standard that isn't 03:46 wizzyrea eythian: can you teach wahanui that when we say something like "zip it" he shuts up for 5 minutes or something 03:46 mtompset MARC? 03:46 wahanui mtompset: what? 03:46 * mtompset laughs, "Not useful, wahanui." 03:46 wahanui MARC data is probably being migrated from 2.2.9 to 3.2 03:46 wizzyrea MARC data? 03:46 Alias yeah 03:46 wizzyrea True. 03:45 wahanui Wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans. 03:45 Alias Wizzyrea 03:45 wizzyrea oh, ok so you have some kind of data that you want to put into Koha 03:45 Alias no no, not old system, this's a my exercise 03:44 wizzyrea you have records for books and people and stuff from another database that you want to put into Koha? does that sound right? 03:44 mtompset Is the database an old system that you want to change to Koha? 03:43 huginn Alias: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 03:43 Alias @@ 03:43 Alias to hard to say what i mean 03:43 mtompset Is the database another library system, Alias? 03:43 eythian Oh, a friend's girlfriend is Laos. However, that doesn't help us either. 03:43 wizzyrea ? 03:43 mtompset I think you are right, wizzyrea. 03:43 wizzyrea what system are you coming from/ 03:42 wizzyrea don't need a a plugin for that either 03:42 Alias Laos 03:42 wizzyrea ohhhh you want to move your things from another system to Koha? 03:42 wizzyrea what is your native language? 03:42 Alias and import other database: patrons, staffs, books, user,.... 03:42 mtompset Home -> Tools -> Import patrons. 03:41 mtompset You don't need a plug in for that. 03:41 Alias maybe 03:41 mtompset Do you want to import patrons? 03:41 Alias (sr, because my EL is not really good) :( 03:40 eythian Alias: you're going to have to provide a lot more detail. 03:40 mtompset What do you mean import a database user? 03:39 Alias ex, I have a database user, and i want to import it 03:37 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 03:37 wizzyrea the first question? 03:36 wizzyrea Alias: what are you trying to do with your connection to the database? 03:36 wahanui it has been said that z39.50 is the ANSI standard of the beast. 03:36 eythian wahanui: z39.50 03:36 Alias yes, i want to connect to other database. 03:35 eythian It sometimes connects to other databases via Z39.50 to get information. 03:34 eythian Koha spends all its time connected to a MySQL database. 03:34 eythian what does "connect database" mean? 03:34 Alias I'm trying to connect database, do you have any document or video? 03:33 dcook ^ 03:32 eythian Alias: what are you actually trying to do? 03:32 dcook Alias: Maybe what you really want is this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/JQuery_Library 03:30 Alias can i write by JavaScript? 03:30 wajasu perl 03:30 wajasu you could look at t/Koha/Plugin/Test.pm to get started. i am not sure, but i think they are zip files(.kpz) that overlay and the plugin handler looks at C4::Context->config("enable_plugins") 03:30 Alias and, plugin is written by JavaScript or perl? 03:25 eythian cjh volunteered. 03:24 Alias yeah, let's write a wiki page that's an intro to writing plugins... 03:18 * cjh nominates eythian 03:18 eythian * bags not 03:18 eythian someone* needs to go write a wiki page that's an intro to writing plugins. 03:18 huginn 04Bug 7804: new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Koha Plugin System 03:18 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804#c2 < this comment 03:17 wizzyrea there is an example plugin there. 03:17 wizzyrea this is the bug that added the feature 03:17 huginn 04Bug 7804: new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Koha Plugin System 03:17 wizzyrea http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7804 03:17 mtompset That's probably a bad assumption. 03:17 * mtompset laughs. 03:17 * eythian assumes there's documentation 03:16 eythian Alias: you'll have to look at existing plugins, look at the plugin documentation, and start from there. 03:16 mtompset There is no "Writing a plug-in for dummies" anywhere, Alias. Sorry, we can't help. 03:15 Alias Help me, plz 03:15 mtompset wizzyrea: Tiffany is okay. I like that song. :P 03:14 * mtompset nods at eythian. 03:14 mtompset There is no "Writing a plug-in for dummies" anywhere. 03:14 eythian It's like deja-vu all over again. 03:13 Alias How to create a plugin in koha? 03:13 mtompset I counter your debbie gibson with whitney! http://youtu.be/eH3giaIzONA (I wanna dance with somebody) 03:12 wizzyrea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6Q3mHyzn78 03:12 * mtompset cringes, "That's pretty bad." 03:11 wizzyrea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I_WavHGBdA you're welcome. 03:10 mtompset http://youtu.be/K38xNqZvBJI (1985 - Bowling for Soup) 03:09 wizzyrea I can't! 03:08 mtompset wizzyrea: Stop clicking! 03:08 mtompset wizzyrea: I put the name of the song and band on the link. 03:07 wizzyrea next thing will be debbie gibson and tiffany, and then you might as well call the coroner. 03:06 wizzyrea someone please kill me I've gone down the new kids on the block rabbit hole. 02:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11578 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Improvement of the funds list view 02:50 mtompset I wanted to help cait out and test bug 11578, but something doesn't make sense to me intuitively. 02:49 mtompset I'm confused on how acquisition budgets and funds are supposed to work. 02:48 eythian :) 02:48 mtompset eythian: Sorry about the NKOTB flashback. ;) 02:48 mtompset Oh. :( 02:47 eythian [14:28] * khall (~khall@h10.105.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) is binnengekomen bij #koha 02:47 eythian [14:27] * khall heeft verlaten (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) 02:47 eythian mtompset: it was a reconnect. 02:45 mtompset Is this really you, or just a computer? :) 02:45 mtompset Greetings, khall! 02:21 wajasu i clicked, and got 57 hits 02:14 eythian http://i.imgur.com/VIM31JE.png <-- click here 02:12 mtompset There is no "Writing a plug-in for dummies" anywhere. 02:11 * mtompset laughs. 02:11 eythian /kick mtompset NO!@#!@!@!# 02:10 mtompset Musical flashback: http://youtu.be/ay6GjmiJTPM (step by step NKOTB) 02:09 Aslien dcook: yah, I checked out ByWater but not anymore. They just have some example plugins. @@... 02:08 dcook ^ 02:08 eythian you can't really make a plugin "step by step". 02:07 dcook Aslien: No, I cannot help you, if that's the case. As I mentioned, check out the ByWater sites. If that's too complex, you'll probably have trouble trying to create a plugin. 02:06 eythian arg Cache::Entry has some real brain-dead decisions in it. 02:05 Aslien I need a document or video help me step by step make a plugin, but i can't find it. can you help me/. 02:03 dcook bag: My home could use so many improvements :p. I do love hardware... 02:03 dcook Aslien: It probably depends on what you want to do, but the examples I've seen have been written in Perl. 02:01 Aslien plugin koha is written by javascript or perl language? 01:56 bag it’s pretty rad 01:56 bag dcook: it’s an add for Lowe’s home improvement… need help? 01:41 dcook Aslien: I recommend looking at anything by ByWater as they're the ones who developed the plugin system 01:40 wajasu i once came face to face with my doppleganger. folks had mentioned of his existence for years. we walked up to each other looked into each others eyes with no words spoken, then turned and walked away, never to see each other again. 01:40 dcook No idea, Aslien. I haven't looked into it too much yet. https://www.google.com.au/search?q=koha+plugin 01:39 Aslien I want to have a plugin connect database, have any document or anything else? 01:37 dcook She didn't see the similarity, but everyone else did. It was pretty neat talking to a near duplicate of yourself, especially growing up in a family full of sisters :p 01:37 Aslien How to make a plugin in koha? 01:37 wajasu dcook++ 01:37 dcook However, once, I got to meet a doppelganger. He was dating a classmate of mine. 01:37 dcook There are many people in the world who look like me. Usually, I hear about it through situations like this. 01:36 dcook ibeardslee: *insert joke about politics here* 01:36 ibeardslee you'd would hope you'd be aware if they were selling you 01:35 dcook I can assure you that it wasn't me, but I'm curious 01:35 dcook What were they selling? 01:35 dcook lol 01:31 bag Hi there dcook - just saw you 01:31 bag just saw a comerical on tv - that the guy looked like dcook 00:54 * dcook sees if he can crash his browser again.. 00:53 dcook I thought that was what we were doing right now :p 00:53 eythian Not not working. 00:52 dcook Working? 00:51 eythian oh, I'm connected here by IPv6, that'll be why this channel is still working. 00:49 wajasu i recently migrated a company from xp to win7 and hacks plus new security broke old app functionality. explorer 10 (no dhtml .htc scripts) broke even more so 8 expl 8 became the new corp standard. 00:49 eythian yeah, we've convinced some of them to do that. 00:48 dcook Done. 00:48 dcook I think the best response to IE breaking things is "So I switched to Firefox or Chrome instead." 00:48 dcook eythian: That sounds familiar. I think we might've run into similar issues. 00:47 eythian we have people who keep turning compatibility mode on, and it breaks the staff client. 00:46 wajasu lets add a mode to koha :) 00:46 dcook My summary: "Oh no. Everyone's website breaks for IE 10/11 because the classic workarounds no longer work, but our browser still doesn't perform up to snuff, so let's add a 'mode' and act like we're doing you a favour for bringing back what we already took away." 00:45 dcook http://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=http%3a%2f%2fvideo.ch9.ms%2fsessions%2fbuild%2f2014%2f2-559.pptx