Time Nick Message
23:17 huginn pianohacker: The operation succeeded.
23:17 pianohacker @later tell cait 10486 followup yey
23:12 huginn talljoy: The operation succeeded.
23:12 talljoy @later tell jcamins i've got a question for you on authority matching! fun!
22:51 eythian I think this has reached its limit.
22:50 dcook Surely, I must be right to a degree
22:48 pianohacker don't be so obtuse, dude
22:47 dcook There are so many options, yet no one else is joining in. I'm getting an acute sense that we're alone in enjoying the puns
22:42 pianohacker maybe... I think all of these puns are integral to our conversation though
22:41 dcook At this point, I think we're really off on a tangent
22:40 pianohacker these jokes are getting pretty derivative anyways
22:39 rangi http://librarykris.tumblr.com/post/81569529250/question-via-a-friend-of-mine-ok-my-smart-peeps <-- context
22:39 pianohacker nah, that'll just add more issues, I think
22:39 dcook Perhaps we should analyze the root of the problem
22:38 pianohacker this conversation is getting exponentially more annoying
22:38 * dcook should stick to English jokes
22:37 dcook But I was only trying to multiply others' regard for me
22:36 pianohacker dcook: don't make such divisive comments
22:35 dcook Damn, I should've mentioned division so I could talk about a remainder...
22:34 dcook Maybe if I subtract puzzlement from confusion I'll get contentment...
22:34 * dcook is so confused
22:31 wizzyrea and we'd all have a righteous chuckle.
22:31 * wizzyrea was hoping it would be a surprise someday
22:30 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #305: "Koha .. ninjas don't care for your grammatically incorrect math issues!" (added by wizzyrea at 09:34 PM, April 03, 2014)
22:30 wizzyrea @quote get 305
22:30 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
22:30 huginn wizzyrea: Error: 'last' is not a valid id.
22:30 wizzyrea @quote get last
21:39 rangi there, beat that one
21:39 rangi Koha .. ninjas don't care for your grammatically incorrect math issues!
21:38 pianohacker I think my favorite is still ILSeseseses
21:37 rangi i like that one
21:34 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #176: "rangi: buy people a glass of zomg there's actually real things to care about" juice?"" (added by jcamins at 06:02 PM, January 06, 2012)
21:34 wizzyrea @quote random
21:34 huginn wizzyrea: Quote #178: "jcamins: IIS kills kittens" (added by wizzyrea at 05:20 PM, January 10, 2012)
21:34 wizzyrea @quote random
21:32 talljoy i just missed the nuts
21:28 nuts gmcharlt: Quote #277: "kivilahtio: jcamins, don't help me :)" (added by mtompset at 12:38 PM, September 16, 2013)
21:28 gmcharlt @quote random
21:28 nuts gmcharlt: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
21:28 gmcharlt @auote random
21:28 pianohacker hi trea!
21:28 wizzyrea :D
21:28 pianohacker hahahahahaha
21:26 pianohacker :D
21:26 wahanui our bot is "nuts"
21:26 pianohacker wahanui: our bot?
21:25 wizzyrea our bot is "nuts"
21:25 wizzyrea haha
21:24 pianohacker even as off-the-wall as I am finishing up this crazy semester, I'm not that nuts ;)
21:22 eythian pianohacker: thought you were wahanui for a moment
21:22 cait_afk good night all :)
21:22 pianohacker and wizzyrea :)
21:22 pianohacker hola eythian
21:22 eythian hi
21:22 pianohacker HdezCortes: hacer el consulta 'SELECT COUNT(*) FROM sessions' en mysql
21:21 wizzyrea cait++
21:14 pianohacker yo entiendo :)
21:11 HdezCortes pianohacker soy un poco novato en Koha
21:11 HdezCortes no
21:10 pianohacker HdezCortes: está usando el cleanup_database cronjob?
21:08 HdezCortes por que el disco de mi servidor se lleno muy rapido y solo tengo koha instalado hay
21:07 HdezCortes Quisiera saber dond Koha guarda sus tmp???
21:07 pianohacker un poco, que quiere
21:06 HdezCortes Hola Alguien Habla español?
19:50 pianohacker oleonard: that code's in Rancor
19:48 oleonard Just hypothetically speaking that is.
19:48 pianohacker ... that sounds rather odd when you say it in the wrong channel
19:47 pianohacker oh jesus yeah
19:46 pianohacker oleonard: modals in bootstrap have a hardcoded width of 560 px. If you want them to have any other size, you have to do the above
19:45 oleonard What problem are you trying to solve?
19:45 pianohacker you can see why I don't want to duplicate this too much :P
19:44 pianohacker oleonard: kk, just asking, as this is the current solution (has more whitespace in the code): $(this).modal({ show: false }).css({ marginLeft: function() { return -($(this).width() / 2); } });
19:41 oleonard pianohacker: I have not looked into that issue
19:40 pianohacker I have no idea
19:40 cait_afk maybe you were thinking aobut opac views limited to branch?
19:39 cait_afk lol
19:39 cait_afk so which code are you talking about? :)
19:39 pianohacker I forgot to call auth.pm in any way, shape or form before checking for the user's branch, thus the headdesking above
19:39 cait_afk oh ok
19:39 pianohacker cait_afk: I just fixed that
19:39 cait_afk pianohacker: maybe we could remove the library feature for now and implement in a follow up?
19:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
19:38 pianohacker oleonard: do you have any good resources on getting bootstrap modals to properly autosize? They have a thoroughly fixed size that I had to hack around to use them in rancor, and before I port bug 10486 to them, I thought I'd ask if there's a better way
19:38 * cait_afk sends cookies
19:37 oleonard Yes
19:37 pianohacker oleonard: around?
19:35 wajasu mtompset: the records I could not find in z3950 severs, I manufactured programatically.
19:33 pianohacker Its like I let my brain out to prance in the fjords for a day, then wrote some code
19:32 pianohacker jesus, I have no idea why I thought this code would work 6 months ago
19:32 wajasu mtompset: my records were from an old library MSDOS/window software system where the librarian used marcedit to get author, title etc for years. I exported them as .mrc records, and wrote a program to query LOC, and some other z3950 servers, and wrote enriched marcxml.
19:32 huginn pianohacker: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
19:32 pianohacker pianohacker--
19:32 * cait_afk is still here
19:24 pianohacker back
19:23 cait_afk bgkriegel++
19:16 pianohacker brb
18:44 atheia g'night everyone!
18:35 gaetan_B bye!
18:27 mtompset cait_afk: You are right. You'd have to check out the records. Perhaps they are consistent because they come from different cataloguing sources (e.g. did z39.50 search and imported from different servers for various titles with the same author)
18:25 cait_afk mtompset: i think index structure - one would need to take a look at the records linked
18:25 cait_afk to be just catalouging errors
18:25 cait_afk mtompset: actually i think they look a bit too consistent
18:24 mtompset Actually, I just got back from a chauffeur job... wajasu, the "duplicates" look like someone didn't catalogue the authorities the same way consistently.
18:23 cait_afk and the basic feature didn't work
18:23 cait_afk basically, as soon as i had one library selected it broke
18:23 cait_afk ok
18:23 pianohacker that's weird, then. lemme check on that
18:22 pianohacker yes I do
18:22 cait_afk yep
18:22 cait_afk do you still have my notes?
18:22 pianohacker cait_afk: as a user from one of the branches that wasn't filtered out?
18:21 cait_afk yep
18:21 pianohacker cait_afk: were you logged into the opac at that point?
18:21 cait_afk sorry, i think you lost me there
18:21 cait_afk ?
18:21 pianohacker cait_afk: I think I might just have to filter out that error; it happens when there's nothing for pazpar2 to search. If you have any filters on a target, it's not visible to anonymous users
18:21 cait_afk fix it or take it out for now
18:20 pianohacker oh that
18:20 cait_afk yes and fix the library limiting
18:19 pianohacker cait_afk: oh hai. Just to verify, you wanted me to update the documentation (on the bug?), fix the LESS files, and check for an untranslatable string?
18:18 cait_afk pianohacker:
18:17 cait_afk here
18:11 pianohacker very reasonable
18:11 huginn pianohacker: cait was last seen in #koha 8 minutes and 47 seconds ago: <cait> i need to have dinner.
18:11 pianohacker @seen cait
18:02 cait i need to have dinner.
18:01 cait to show them all
18:01 cait and just show the most oft often used and then a 'more' link
18:01 cait for example i think that we should look at the whole record set
18:01 cait i tihk defining what we want and which data that wuld be might be good before diving into programming
18:00 cait or something like that
18:00 cait it looks like there is the $a and the full field for each
18:00 cait are you sure the index has a good sttructur for facets?
18:00 cait hm what doesn't look right
17:46 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "another yaz zebra facet search" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/206
17:46 wajasu I will just load maxRecordsForFacets terms.
17:37 cait and not all your authors are
17:37 cait y
17:37 cait only some might be linked to an authorit
17:37 cait and in the index it doesn't show the subfields
17:37 cait i guess you are looking at a whole field there
17:37 wajasu <term coccur="4" occur="4">Tozer, A. W. (Aiden Wilson), 1897-1963. 11849</term>
17:36 cait ?
17:36 wajasu Don't know what to do about why the auth number is appended to some of the terms.
17:36 wajasu i guess as i iterate, if a term has a previously seen term, AND the # occur is the same, we could overwrite withthe longer term. (and maybe use the auth number).
17:33 mtompset Ooo... yes, mouseover... like.
17:33 wajasu yes. mouse over shoud show all.
17:33 cait that's configurable
17:33 cait showing the long names
17:33 wajasu today the cut off is 20 chars i think.
17:33 cait or for the same, offer a tree
17:33 cait like the dates the person lived
17:33 cait we could showmore information in a mouse over
17:32 cait hm that depends where you cut off
17:32 mtompset Yes, but the second is like a subset, right?
17:31 wajasu well, with cutting off in presentation, we will always 2 of the same name for most Authors.
17:30 mtompset Good point about the authority numbers.
17:30 cait and if you use authority numbers for linking those are also different
17:30 cait also, for what we know, they might be different persons
17:30 cait yep
17:28 mtompset I'd leave them separate. Any logic you add to try to make it smart, may end up being dumb.
17:27 pastebot "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "example facet query with yaz for Authors" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/205
17:27 wajasu mtompset: i have the zebra facet query in my local dev and am trying to decide how to map to the facet data structure. what to do with the similiar returned terms.
17:00 nengard hello
17:00 mtompset Greetings, nengard
17:00 mtompset Bye, kivilahtio.
16:45 kivilahtio take care
16:45 kivilahtio I'm going home
16:45 kivilahtio Thenk you everybody for creating such an awesome library sytstem!
16:37 mtompset Thank you. :)
16:36 oleonard In this case I don't see any reason why the text should be block-level. I think <span> is preferable.
16:36 oleonard <span> is inline, so it stays within the flow of the text it is in.
16:35 oleonard <div> is block-level, so by default it appears on its own "line," as if it was preceded by a line break.
16:34 mtompset Is there a set of guidelines for choosing one over the other?
16:34 mtompset particularly KF's question regarding div vs. span.
16:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10823 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , add class info to enumchron data in detail.tt, for better styling
16:33 mtompset regarding bug 10823
16:33 mtompset I wanted to get some feedback, insight, wisdom from you, our CSS/web designing guru. :)
16:33 oleonard Yes
16:33 mtompset oleonard: You here?
16:32 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
15:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11573 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , change description of charges in account fines
15:55 kivilahtio woowee
15:55 wajasu i did a followup for bug 11573 to get the displayed description consistent, which doesn't really show the description, but dervies one from the other fields. (except for renewal).
15:54 kivilahtio cait: yay! Got it working with iso-format
15:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11393: fix display of Thai in language menu when Thai translation is installed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe205c907a6ec1959add1b24a5bf3ff09ee5149c>
15:51 cait but the accouts rewrite is not yet
15:51 cait i think it changed recently... should only be in master
15:51 cait which was bad... becasue untranslatable
15:50 cait barton: in the past, there was a full string in description
15:50 barton you were talking about accountlines...
15:50 cait aah
15:50 * cait scrolls panically
15:50 cait barton: what did i say?
15:50 kivilahtio I can :D
15:50 cait sure, hope you can solve it
15:50 barton cait -- true. The description that I was worried about in particular was in fines.pl.
15:50 kivilahtio I'll try to solve this
15:49 kivilahtio cait: Thanks fot the heads up!
15:49 kivilahtio but the problem is that we have several bibliographic record (cataloguin) vendors and some give as xml
15:49 kivilahtio yeah that is how they did it
15:49 cait if you convert it using marcedit or something it should work
15:49 kivilahtio I wonder if it is bad to code it
15:49 kivilahtio ok
15:49 cait afaik
15:49 kivilahtio so I cannot import marcxml via GUI
15:48 cait bulkmarcimport is a different animal :)
15:48 kivilahtio ok then :)
15:48 cait both are not the same
15:48 kivilahtio hmm
15:48 kivilahtio well I tested it with bulkmarcimport test mode
15:48 cait only mrc
15:48 cait you can't import xml from stage i think
15:48 kivilahtio just apache2
15:48 kivilahtio nope
15:48 kivilahtio but it works fine with bulkmarcimport.pl
15:48 cait are you running plack?
15:48 kivilahtio cait: lemme pastebin it for you
15:47 cait do you have a mrc file?
15:47 cait ok
15:47 kivilahtio GUI
15:47 kivilahtio cait: Well... I go to stage-marc-import.pl
15:47 cait do you want to do it from the gui or command line?
15:47 cait and how are you trying to do it?
15:47 kivilahtio I am trying to upload a batch of MARC records to make acqusitions from
15:46 cait if you use bulkmarkimport you won't have to stage the file, it does a stage and commit
15:46 cait kivilahtio: what are you trying to do?
15:45 cait barton: i think it might differ depending on what the accountline is about
15:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11993: fix untranslatable confirm popup in request.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5da480b61b689c7497d386fdd0b9bd30f260d2db>
15:34 kivilahtio also bulkmarcimport.pl works fine, but stage-marc-import.pl does not :(
15:32 kivilahtio I get several of these
15:32 kivilahtio [Thu Apr 03 18:31:50 2014] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Thu Apr 3 18:31:50 2014] stage-marc-import.pl: Filehandle STDOUT reopened as FH only for input at /usr/lib/perl5/Template/Provider.pm line 964., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/stage-marc-import.pl
15:32 kivilahtio is this normal? I am trying to batch import a MARCXML file.
15:32 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12018 - add table sorting to patron card batches <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b78596311bb23eb4e81356cc07c12868d9a90b96>
15:13 reiveune bye
15:09 barton morning tgoat!
15:08 gaetan_B has anyone had this as well ?
15:08 gaetan_B this doen't seem like the expected behaviour
15:07 gaetan_B the previous one is filled
15:07 gaetan_B and click in the new one
15:07 gaetan_B if you duplicate a 040$d subfield
15:07 gaetan_B the marc21_field_040d.pl seems to have a bug
14:40 barton (first line was example)
14:39 barton grepsub() { regex=$1; shift; egrep "^sub|$regex" "$@" | grep -B1 "$regex" | grep '^sub'; }
14:39 barton grepsub description /var/lib/koha/corpus/kohaclone/C4/Accounts.pm
14:39 barton shell function returning the names of functions containing a regex:
14:36 rocio morning barton!
14:35 barton morning rocio!
14:32 barton the code I'm looking at is 3.14.03.
14:31 barton anyway...
14:30 * barton doesn't know if that's in main yet...
14:30 * oleonard 's branch might be just a tad stale
14:30 barton oleonard: yeah -- khall's accounts rewrite may have fixed the problem.
14:30 oleonard "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, and have 1 and 1441 different commits each, respectively."
14:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1917 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add RSS Feeds for Lists
14:29 * oleonard checks out the branch in which he had started to work on Bug 1917
14:26 oleonard I don't see any dates stored in the description column though
14:25 barton looks like description is mentioned in recordpayment(), makepayment(), chargelostitem(), manualinvoice(), ReversePayment(), recordpayment_selectaccts(), makepartialpayment() and WriteOffFee() ...
14:21 barton oleonard: I'm poking around in C4/Accounts.pm right now...
14:19 oleonard barton: Did you figure out your accountlines question?
13:50 outtahere Fairly new program at the local university.
13:49 barton aha. never heard that before.
13:49 outtahere Master of Applied Science (Information Technology)
13:48 barton outtahere 'MAS'?
13:48 outtahere MAS != MLS
13:48 * oleonard wonders if that was Windows' "restart now?" dialog that just appeared suddenly, stole focus, and was dismissed by whatever I was typing
13:48 outtahere Ah good. That requires someone with an MLS.
13:47 barton What populates the date in the 'description' field of accoutlines?
13:46 outtahere ah, the " launching into questions" part
13:46 barton was it my breath?
13:45 barton morning rhcl
13:45 * barton likes to be sociable before launching into questions...
13:45 rhcl morning barton
13:44 barton morning #koha!
13:38 marcelr bye all
13:38 marcelr Joubu: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/What_does_a_module_maintainer do ?
13:37 Joubu oleonard: I have just added a "templating" entry for 3.18 Module maintainers, if you want to join the MM team :)
13:34 cait Joubu++ and oleonard++
13:34 cait :)
13:31 oleonard I'm always happy to answer questions. I like being useful :)
13:28 Joubu Actually, I am used to ping you when I have a question related to templates. Don't hesitate to tell me if I bother you ;)
13:25 oleonard Joubu: I did but thank you for reminding me
13:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11601 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Signed Off , Bootstrap theme has CSS files that do not have LESS counterparts
13:24 Joubu oleonard: Did you see my comment on bug 11601?
13:17 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 10.1°C (8:17 AM CDT on April 03, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
13:17 rhcl @wunder 64507
12:33 marcelr script
12:33 marcelr no i see no differences between 3.14.4 and master in the javascro[t
12:33 Joubu marcelr: Did you try git bisect?
12:32 marcelr Joubu: thx for testing; I noticed that the output also contained some script related to plugins; will test if it fails without them
12:27 Joubu marcelr: It works for me :-/ I added some subfields to my ACQ framework. itemrecorddisplay.pl?frameworkcode=ACQ returns 38098 chars and the form is correctly displayed
12:24 oleonard Hi #koha
12:23 ashimema pretty powerful in a pretty ui ;)
12:22 ashimema http://jonas.nitro.dk/tig/manual.html
12:22 kivilahtio less cursing with n-curses
12:22 ashimema cait: it's git spelt backwards.. or in a more detailed explanation.. It's a ncurses based git client.
12:22 kivilahtio oh no I think I bursted the tig-bubble
12:21 ashimema git spelt backwards ;)
12:14 marcelr thx
12:14 Joubu marcelr: yes, I'm going to take a look
12:08 cait ashimema: what's tig again?
12:08 cait morning francharb
12:05 francharb good morning #koha
11:48 ashimema been using it for a while now..
11:48 ashimema tig is indeed lovely..
11:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12036 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Neworderempty.pl fails to add items when itemrecorddisplay is too long (acqCreateItem=ordering)
11:46 marcelr Joubu: if you got a minute, please take a short look at bug 12036..
11:35 kivilahtio indeed it is
11:35 Joubu kivilahtio: it's a very useful tool :)
11:25 cait and it's different for UNIMARC
11:24 kivilahtio Joubu: btw, thanks for introducing me to tig, makes my life more pleasant!
11:22 kivilahtio kutgf!
11:22 kivilahtio thanks for keeping ears up!
11:22 kivilahtio it prolly needs no authentication neither
11:21 kivilahtio well I can hack on up no problem
11:21 Joubu kivilahtio: no, I don't think so. But have to pass the value to the template
11:21 kivilahtio marcelr: those pesky values can be changed arbitrarily between frameworks which is a pain
11:21 marcelr not that i know
11:21 marcelr :)
11:21 kivilahtio marcelr: Just curious if there is an API to get the from the javascript
11:21 kivilahtio marcelr: I know
11:20 marcelr 952c i guess
11:20 cait sorry, I don't know
11:18 kivilahtio Joubu, marcelr, slef, wahanui, anyone?
11:16 kivilahtio Specifically I would like to get the MARC-fields Koha uses to store the shelving location
11:15 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11676 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Loading shelving locations based on the item's homebranch instead of the user's logged-in branch.
11:15 kivilahtio Hi there! I am working on bug 11676, which makes Koha ve greater! :) I have a question regarding getting the koha-to-MARC-mapping using javascript? Is there a ready feature for that?
09:15 Hopla test
07:46 cait Joubu++
07:45 cait nlegrand: ^^
07:45 nlegrand Joubu: great! thx!
07:45 Joubu cait: allrecords,AlwaysMatches=""
07:44 wahanui hello, Joubu
07:44 Joubu hello
07:43 nlegrand ashimema, cait thx :) yup, I searched a bit the web, didn't find yet, will continue and reask Frido :)
07:42 ashimema hmmm.. pushing 100 tabs in chrome.. tihnk it may be time to close a few
07:41 cait have you tried google or the irc logs? it might show up somewhere
07:41 cait nlegrand: sorry, i know there is something, but not how it works
07:40 cait :)
07:39 ashimema sorry nlegrand.. no idea what the query is
07:39 ashimema morning cait... good to have you back
07:36 nlegrand during the Marseille koha hackfest, Fridolin showed me a way to ask for all records in the search engine, something like _allrecords: but I don't clearly remember, what can I do to retrieve all records from a catalag search?
07:36 cait morning ashimema
07:34 ashimema morning koha
07:34 cait good morning #koha
07:31 gaetan_B hello
07:18 paxed i'm running the tests for the first time. is it usual to get (imo) awful lot of complaints, like "1.7976931348623157e308 not valid EAN-13 barcode at t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t line 25."
06:59 wahanui niihau, alex_a
06:59 alex_a bonjour
06:56 nlegrand Hey !
06:52 marcelr hi #koha
06:42 wahanui hola, reiveune
06:42 reiveune hello
06:10 dcook Good night, Kohaers
06:10 dcook En fait, I think it's time for me to head out too
06:02 dcook A demain :)
06:02 dcook Excellent!
06:01 irma Bonne soiree / bonne fin de journee ;-)
06:00 dcook My French has faded... bonne soirée?
05:59 dcook Ah, I follow now ;)
05:59 irma *wishes all a pleasant evening. A bientot!
05:58 irma dcook "far" is further than the budget reaches ;-)
05:55 dcook Hmm? What's too far?
05:55 dcook Not too long ago at all then. I would love to see more public libraries go up on Koha.
05:54 irma dcook April 2012 ... Pity it is too far for a visit ;-)
05:53 dcook Mind you, it was just 3 people around a table in the pub afterward rather than the whole room
05:53 dcook People seemed rather intrigued when I mentioned Koha, how companies make money while also working together, how the community works, etc.
05:52 dcook How long ago was that?
05:52 dcook irma: very cool :)
05:48 irma dcook FYI http://sdwk.calyx.net.au/
05:48 irma dcook When the first public library in Australia went live with Koha ...@ SLUG that night, I showed the OPAC and talked about Koha ... A nice moment of shared excitement.
05:45 dcook I heard your name over at SLUG the other day. Or rather, I mentioned Koha, that twigged with someone, I mentioned your name, and they were pretty sure that's where there was a connection.
05:45 dcook A good way to be :)
05:44 irma pfew ... I am back to just me ;-)
05:42 * dcook waves north
05:42 dcook hey, irma :)
05:41 irma *waves south towards dcook
05:40 dcook hehe
05:38 cait hi irma
05:38 eythian heh
05:38 cait :)
05:38 irma hi eythian, hi cait, I now have IRC on my phone, tablet, laptop 1 and 2 etc. and my fridge ... well not really on the fridge yet ...
05:34 cait hi eythian
05:31 eythian hi cait, irma, irma_
05:25 cait hi dcook
05:25 dcook yo all the irmas :p
05:24 dcook yo, cait
05:24 * cait waves
04:35 papa nope, @a = some_func() will always copy
04:35 papa I used to do that when I was in the army, they'd tell us to dig a trench in the morning, and in the afternoon to dig another one, and use the soil to fill in the first one
04:35 eythian so no copying needed.
04:34 eythian well, if the array in the sub would go out of scope, then you could just provide that anyway.
04:33 papa like I have allocated some memory for my list, and I'm going to return it, so the recipient has to allocate another block to receive it, and then I'll let the garbage collector to clean up my returning list
04:33 mtompset Have a great day, #koha eythian dcook papa
04:33 eythian later
04:33 mtompset I'm going to bed.
04:33 eythian But it probably can't.
04:33 eythian papa: yeah. I'm wondering if perl does something smart with it, e.g. making it copy-on-write or something.
04:32 mtompset I failed QA'd it, and changed it to depends on 1993. :)
04:31 papa yeah, but if it is a largish list...
04:31 eythian well, I suppose it's really returning a list.
04:30 papa b) it is unnecessary copying things around
04:30 papa a) cause I say so
04:30 papa eythian: it is wrong
04:30 dcook Maybe a symlink
04:30 dcook mtompset: But yeah, good one on bug 12031. I don't know how that could've been successfully tested :S
04:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1993 major, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, In Discussion , Task Scheduler Needs Re-write
04:27 mtompset bug 1993
04:26 dcook I'm sure there's a bug around somewhere that has some input from Galen, myself, and perhaps someone else to that effect
04:26 dcook Nope. I said that the Task Scheduler was probably a bad idea.\
04:26 mtompset dcook: Did you bug fix it?
04:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12031 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Task Scheduler not sending mail
04:25 mtompset And yet her patch on bug 12031 says there is.
04:25 * dcook pointed the same thing out a week or two ago :)
04:25 mtompset Because there is no tools/runreports.pl
04:24 eythian she's gone
04:24 mtompset Do you have a link from tools/runreports.pl to misc/cronjobs/runreports.pl?
04:24 mtompset wizzyrea: I have a question.
04:24 eythian papa: what's wrong with returning arrays?
04:07 papa I would rewrite that anyway
04:06 papa returning arrays is a bad idea, unless it is for the multiple values sake, eg return ($status, $error_msg) or something
04:06 dcook My link just shows the precedence, I believe
04:06 dcook However, when it's a list-context assignment and you're trying to use || for control flow, you probably need "or" so that the assignment takes higher precedence.
04:05 eythian http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop.html#Logical-or-and-Exclusive-Or <-- no, this
04:05 dcook http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop.html#Operator-Precedence-and-Associativity
04:04 * eythian gives up for now. I'll let it soak in.
04:04 eythian oh, no it doesn't.
04:04 eythian oh, because = binds tighter than 'or'. Now I get it, it makes sense.
04:04 papa eythian: actually you are right, in this particular case it does not matter. but still, it would be *way* better to return an arrayref
04:03 eythian ahh, it's to do with precedence. I find that slightly odd.
04:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11797 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , auth_finder.pl: Odd number of elements in anonymous hash
04:02 mtompset oh, because you got me thinking of my bug 11797
04:02 papa I'm not encountering any errors, just thinking aloud
04:02 eythian mtompset: adding www-data to at.allow is necessary if you want www-data to be able to schedule tasks.
04:01 eythian ah, I've found the bit in perlop now.
04:01 mtompset papa what error are you encountering? I think I have a bug report.
04:01 papa which is not ideal
04:01 eythian well in that case, it wouldn't matter, right?
04:00 papa because it will behave in the same manner for undef and ()
04:00 eythian papa: in that case, what doesn't make sense about it?
04:00 mtompset subfields returns scalar or list depending on context.
04:00 papa my @subf = $field->subfields or (); is a very poor choice
04:00 eythian Probably, given where it's going.
04:00 eythian cjh: maybe.
03:59 mtompset BTW, is adding www-data to at.allow really a good idea?
03:59 cjh is subfields a function that returns a list?
03:58 eythian does that make a difference here?
03:58 eythian cjh: but those are lists, not arrays.
03:58 cjh eythian: whereas (1,2,3) or (4,5,6) will set @a to (1,2,3)
03:58 papa correct
03:58 cjh eythian: || will return the last value evaluated, so my @a = (1,2,3) || (4,5,6); will set @a to 3
03:57 eythian why || would make something scalar when 'or' wouldn't.
03:57 papa that line makes no sense
03:57 papa what?
03:55 eythian papa, can you explain that?
03:55 eythian that is a new one on me
03:55 eythian my @subf = $field->subfields or (); # don't use ||, as that forces $field->subfelds to be interpreted in scalar context
03:54 dcook Oh no, still the same.
03:54 dcook Or worse..
03:53 dcook That would sure show me
03:53 dcook Oh wait a tic...maybe someone did already fix this in master...
03:50 dcook Actually, quick question, wizzyrea. Do you use layout2pages or layout3pages?
03:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12033 is not accessible.
03:49 eythian gmcharlt: bug 12033 for your consideration. Also, I noticed while creating that that not everyone in the group was added, which I would have expected.
03:49 dcook I'll go back to coding now after ranting about punctuation and food...
03:48 * dcook has no idea why he should remember that...
03:48 dcook Oh no, it is called a banana boat
03:48 * dcook needs some marshmallows...
03:48 dcook Campfire banana split?
03:48 dcook Banana boat? I want to say it's something you do when camping.
03:48 dcook Lingering chocolate taste...fused with banana...there is a name for this...
03:47 dcook I just had a dark chocolate tim tam and now I'm eating a banana, and it's magical.
03:47 dcook O_O
03:47 dcook I probably should've had a comma before "and". Oh well :p
03:47 dcook \o/
03:45 wizzyrea take that.
03:44 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #304 added.
03:44 wizzyrea @quote add <dcook> I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out.
03:44 wizzyrea curse you.
03:44 huginn wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
03:44 wizzyrea @quote add <dcook> I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out.
03:44 dcook Banana time!
03:44 dcook Oh well. In the end, I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out.
03:43 dcook Of course "start_y" - "start_h" = "bottom margin"
03:43 dcook Although the documentation is non-existent for the footer bit...
03:43 dcook And it's all due to poor config on our part
03:43 dcook Tables overlapping the footer and...table overflow starting at inopportune places on the new page
03:42 wizzyrea oh phew.
03:42 dcook Nopes
03:42 wizzyrea did it have to do with special characters in pdfs?
03:42 wizzyrea what was the problem you were solving?
03:42 wahanui wait wait is probably there a new git bz/
03:42 wizzyrea wait wait
03:41 dcook wizzyrea: Funny and productive day!
03:41 dcook Sure, I had to go into PDF::API2's source code to figure out it was doing, but yay!
03:41 dcook Figured out all the problems with purchase order printing
03:40 * dcook does a little dance
03:40 wizzyrea that or words are especially amusing to me today.
03:40 wizzyrea i am glad I didn't have a drink. It must be a globally funny day today
03:39 wizzyrea ...I was not expecting that
03:33 eythian "Duck punching" is an alternative term.
03:32 wizzyrea ^ this sentence is awesome.
03:31 eythian another time though.
03:31 eythian javascript is a fungible language, we could monkey patch it.
03:31 wizzyrea yeah it would require more time than I have at the moment
03:31 eythian I dunno.
03:31 eythian we might be able to provide a bogus base URL that causes it to never kick in, maybe.
03:30 wizzyrea but I didn't look *that* closely
03:30 wizzyrea I worry about this particular problem in tinymce 4, it doesn't seem to allow disabling entirely like I've just done with 3
03:29 mtj yeah, sounds good to me
03:28 eythian drop it in at the start of a development cycle, perhaps.
03:28 eythian it's good to keep it reasonably current though. An update every release or two might not be a bad idea.
03:28 mtj s/'// :)
03:27 mtj anyhoo, even the older tinymce's probably does everything koha needs
03:27 mtj ah yep, i forgot that
03:26 mtj ah, thats not really so old.. :)
03:26 eythian Packages use the Debian one, I think.
03:26 mtj 3.5.8, circa 2012-11-20
03:26 mtj i did just notice the version of tinymce in koha-master is a few years old
03:21 * wizzyrea makes a patch
03:21 dcook wizzyrea++
03:21 wizzyrea OOooooo I fixed it!
03:20 * dcook should've added *said with Janitor voice* to that last bit ;)
03:20 eythian oh :)
03:20 * dcook has been watching too much Scrubs recently...
03:20 eythian can't
03:20 dcook Can't? ...or won't?
03:20 eythian yeah, we can't do that really.
03:19 wizzyrea but I don't really want one...
03:19 wizzyrea for one, we have no base url defined, probably an issue.
03:18 wizzyrea i'm about to find out :P
03:18 wizzyrea idk yet
03:18 wizzyrea the tinymce one?
03:18 wizzyrea :P
03:18 wahanui which one is probably that? The fixed navbar?
03:18 wizzyrea which one
03:18 mtj oh nice, did that fix your bug wiz?
03:18 eythian seemingly no option to just turn it all off.
03:17 wizzyrea http://www.tinymce.com/wiki.php/FAQ < heh, it's the first one.
03:17 mtj heya folks
03:16 wizzyrea ^^
03:16 dcook Hmm, nope. Not fixed in master...
03:16 eythian it rewrites them in annoying and wrong (for our purpose) ways, IIRC.
03:15 mtompset how eythian?
03:14 mtompset how, wizzyrea?
03:13 mtompset links in news?
03:13 dcook Not really a Koha problem so much as a PDF::API2 misconfiguration/problem
03:13 dcook Well one of two problems...
03:13 dcook On the plus side, I think I figured out a Koha purchase order printing problem which has probably already been solved in newer versions of Koha :)
03:12 dcook I hate when that happens
03:12 dcook ^
03:09 wizzyrea it's trying to do something smart I think. And being dumb in the process.
03:09 * wizzyrea tries it
03:09 wizzyrea https://drupal.org/node/100792 could be like this
03:05 wizzyrea at least, I've just observed that.
03:05 wizzyrea it's weird, because sometimes it saves correctly, but then when you load it again, it screws it up
03:05 eythian It might be. I'm not sure where it comes from,.
03:04 wizzyrea might be a bug with tinymce though
03:04 wizzyrea yeah we do it's really irritating.
03:03 eythian We need to fix it.
03:03 eythian yeah, I've noticed that.
02:58 wizzyrea that's annoying.
02:58 wizzyrea ...tinymce keeps messing up the links in news.
00:49 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
00:49 mtompset @later tell Joubu I believe my patch and explanation on bug 11885 should explain what you were asking about.
00:48 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
00:48 mtompset @later tell paxed Could you review my followup tweak and reply on bug 11885? I'm doing a Failed QA rescue. :)
00:47 huginn mtompset: paxed was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 16 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <paxed> done
00:47 mtompset @seen paxed
00:47 huginn mtompset: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
00:47 mtompset @see paxed
00:46 mtompset paxed: You here?