Time  Nick        Message
00:46 mtompset    paxed: You here?
00:47 mtompset    @see paxed
00:47 huginn      mtompset: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
00:47 mtompset    @seen paxed
00:47 huginn      mtompset: paxed was last seen in #koha 10 hours, 16 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <paxed> done
00:48 mtompset    @later tell paxed Could you review my followup tweak and reply on bug 11885? I'm doing a Failed QA rescue. :)
00:48 huginn      mtompset: The operation succeeded.
00:49 mtompset    @later tell Joubu I believe my patch and explanation on bug 11885 should explain what you were asking about.
00:49 huginn      mtompset: The operation succeeded.
02:58 wizzyrea    ...tinymce keeps messing up the links in news.
02:58 wizzyrea    that's annoying.
03:03 eythian     yeah, I've noticed that.
03:03 eythian     We need to fix it.
03:04 wizzyrea    yeah we do it's really irritating.
03:04 wizzyrea    might be a bug with tinymce though
03:05 eythian     It might be. I'm not sure where it comes from,.
03:05 wizzyrea    it's weird, because sometimes it saves correctly, but then when you load it again, it screws it up
03:05 wizzyrea    at least, I've just observed that.
03:09 wizzyrea    https://drupal.org/node/100792 could be like this
03:09 * wizzyrea  tries it
03:09 wizzyrea    it's trying to do something smart I think. And being dumb in the process.
03:12 dcook       ^
03:12 dcook       I hate when that happens
03:13 dcook       On the plus side, I think I figured out a Koha purchase order printing problem which has probably already been solved in newer versions of Koha :)
03:13 dcook       Well one of two problems...
03:13 dcook       Not really a Koha problem so much as a PDF::API2 misconfiguration/problem
03:13 mtompset    links in news?
03:14 mtompset    how, wizzyrea?
03:15 mtompset    how eythian?
03:16 eythian     it rewrites them in annoying and wrong (for our purpose) ways, IIRC.
03:16 dcook       Hmm, nope. Not fixed in master...
03:16 wizzyrea    ^^
03:17 mtj         heya folks
03:17 wizzyrea    http://www.tinymce.com/wiki.php/FAQ < heh, it's the first one.
03:18 eythian     seemingly no option to just turn it all off.
03:18 mtj         oh nice, did that fix your bug wiz?
03:18 wizzyrea    which one
03:18 wahanui     which one is probably that? The fixed navbar?
03:18 wizzyrea    :P
03:18 wizzyrea    the tinymce one?
03:18 wizzyrea    idk yet
03:18 wizzyrea    i'm about to find out :P
03:19 wizzyrea    for one, we have no base url defined, probably an issue.
03:19 wizzyrea    but I don't really want one...
03:20 eythian     yeah, we can't do that really.
03:20 dcook       Can't? ...or won't?
03:20 eythian     can't
03:20 * dcook     has been watching too much Scrubs recently...
03:20 eythian     oh :)
03:20 * dcook     should've added *said with Janitor voice* to that last bit ;)
03:21 wizzyrea    OOooooo I fixed it!
03:21 dcook       wizzyrea++
03:21 * wizzyrea  makes a patch
03:26 mtj         i did just notice the version of tinymce in koha-master is a few years old
03:26 mtj         3.5.8, circa 2012-11-20
03:26 eythian     Packages use the Debian one, I think.
03:26 mtj         ah,  thats not really so old.. :)
03:27 mtj         ah yep, i forgot that
03:27 mtj         anyhoo, even the older tinymce's probably does everything koha needs
03:28 mtj         s/'// :)
03:28 eythian     it's good to keep it reasonably current though. An update every release or two might not be a bad idea.
03:28 eythian     drop it in at the start of a development cycle, perhaps.
03:29 mtj         yeah, sounds good to me
03:30 wizzyrea    I worry about this particular problem in tinymce 4, it doesn't seem to allow disabling entirely like I've just done with 3
03:30 wizzyrea    but I didn't look *that* closely
03:31 eythian     we might be able to provide a bogus base URL that causes it to never kick in, maybe.
03:31 eythian     I dunno.
03:31 wizzyrea    yeah it would require more time than I have at the moment
03:31 eythian     javascript is a fungible language, we could monkey patch it.
03:31 eythian     another time though.
03:32 wizzyrea    ^ this sentence is awesome.
03:33 eythian     "Duck punching" is an alternative term.
03:39 wizzyrea    ...I was not expecting that
03:40 wizzyrea    i am glad I didn't have a drink. It must be a globally funny day today
03:40 wizzyrea    that or words are especially amusing to me today.
03:40 * dcook     does a little dance
03:41 dcook       Figured out all the problems with purchase order printing
03:41 dcook       Sure, I had to go into PDF::API2's source code to figure out it was doing, but yay!
03:41 dcook       wizzyrea: Funny and productive day!
03:42 wizzyrea    wait wait
03:42 wahanui     wait wait is probably there a new git bz/
03:42 wizzyrea    what was the problem you were solving?
03:42 wizzyrea    did it have to do with special characters in pdfs?
03:42 dcook       Nopes
03:42 wizzyrea    oh phew.
03:43 dcook       Tables overlapping the footer and...table overflow starting at inopportune places on the new page
03:43 dcook       And it's all due to poor config on our part
03:43 dcook       Although the documentation is non-existent for the footer bit...
03:43 dcook       Of course "start_y" - "start_h" = "bottom margin"
03:44 dcook       Oh well. In the end, I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out.
03:44 dcook       Banana time!
03:44 wizzyrea    @quote add <dcook> I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out.
03:44 huginn      wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
03:44 wizzyrea    curse you.
03:44 wizzyrea    @quote add <dcook> I'm glad that it's solved and that it's open source, so I could figure it out.
03:44 huginn      wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #304 added.
03:45 wizzyrea    take that.
03:47 dcook       \o/
03:47 dcook       I probably should've had a comma before "and". Oh well :p
03:47 dcook       O_O
03:47 dcook       I just had a dark chocolate tim tam and now I'm eating a banana, and it's magical.
03:48 dcook       Lingering chocolate taste...fused with banana...there is a name for this...
03:48 dcook       Banana boat? I want to say it's something you do when camping.
03:48 dcook       Campfire banana split?
03:48 * dcook     needs some marshmallows...
03:48 dcook       Oh no, it is called a banana boat
03:48 * dcook     has no idea why he should remember that...
03:49 dcook       I'll go back to coding now after ranting about punctuation and food...
03:49 eythian     gmcharlt: bug 12033 for your consideration. Also, I noticed while creating that that not everyone in the group was added, which I would have expected.
03:49 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12033 is not accessible.
03:50 dcook       Actually, quick question, wizzyrea. Do you use layout2pages or layout3pages?
03:53 dcook       Oh wait a tic...maybe someone did already fix this in master...
03:53 dcook       That would sure show me
03:54 dcook       Or worse..
03:54 dcook       Oh no, still the same.
03:55 eythian     my @subf = $field->subfields or ();    # don't use ||, as that forces $field->subfelds to be interpreted in scalar context
03:55 eythian     that is a new one on me
03:55 eythian     papa, can you explain that?
03:57 papa        what?
03:57 papa        that line makes no sense
03:57 eythian     why || would make something scalar when 'or' wouldn't.
03:58 cjh         eythian: || will return the last value evaluated, so my @a = (1,2,3) || (4,5,6); will set @a to 3
03:58 papa        correct
03:58 cjh         eythian: whereas (1,2,3) or (4,5,6) will set @a to (1,2,3)
03:58 eythian     cjh: but those are lists, not arrays.
03:58 eythian     does that make a difference here?
03:59 cjh         is subfields a function that returns a list?
03:59 mtompset    BTW, is adding www-data to at.allow really a good idea?
04:00 eythian     cjh: maybe.
04:00 eythian     Probably, given where it's going.
04:00 papa        my @subf = $field->subfields or ();   is a very poor choice
04:00 mtompset    subfields returns scalar or list depending on context.
04:00 eythian     papa: in that case, what doesn't make sense about it?
04:00 papa        because it will behave in the same manner for undef and ()
04:01 eythian     well in that case, it wouldn't matter, right?
04:01 papa        which is not ideal
04:01 mtompset    papa what error are you encountering? I think I have a bug report.
04:01 eythian     ah, I've found the bit in perlop now.
04:02 eythian     mtompset: adding www-data to at.allow is necessary if you want www-data to be able to schedule tasks.
04:02 papa        I'm not encountering any errors, just thinking aloud
04:02 mtompset    oh, because you got me thinking of my bug 11797
04:02 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11797 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , auth_finder.pl: Odd number of elements in anonymous hash
04:03 eythian     ahh, it's to do with precedence. I find that slightly odd.
04:04 papa        eythian: actually you are right, in this particular case it does not matter. but still, it would be *way* better to return an arrayref
04:04 eythian     oh, because = binds tighter than 'or'. Now I get it, it makes sense.
04:04 eythian     oh, no it doesn't.
04:04 * eythian   gives up for now. I'll let it soak in.
04:05 dcook       http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop.html#Operator-Precedence-and-Associativity
04:05 eythian     http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop.html#Logical-or-and-Exclusive-Or <-- no, this
04:06 dcook       However, when it's a list-context assignment and you're trying to use || for control flow, you probably need "or" so that the assignment takes higher precedence.
04:06 dcook       My link just shows the precedence, I believe
04:06 papa        returning arrays is a bad idea, unless it is for the multiple values sake, eg return ($status, $error_msg) or something
04:07 papa        I would rewrite that anyway
04:24 eythian     papa: what's wrong with returning arrays?
04:24 mtompset    wizzyrea: I have a question.
04:24 mtompset    Do you have a link from tools/runreports.pl to misc/cronjobs/runreports.pl?
04:24 eythian     she's gone
04:25 mtompset    Because there is no tools/runreports.pl
04:25 * dcook     pointed the same thing out a week or two ago :)
04:25 mtompset    And yet her patch on bug 12031 says there is.
04:25 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12031 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Task Scheduler not sending mail
04:26 mtompset    dcook: Did you bug fix it?
04:26 dcook       Nope. I said that the Task Scheduler was probably a bad idea.\
04:26 dcook       I'm sure there's a bug around somewhere that has some input from Galen, myself, and perhaps someone else to that effect
04:27 mtompset    bug 1993
04:27 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1993 major, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, In Discussion , Task Scheduler Needs Re-write
04:30 dcook       mtompset: But yeah, good one on bug 12031. I don't know how that could've been successfully tested :S
04:30 dcook       Maybe a symlink
04:30 papa        eythian: it is wrong
04:30 papa        a) cause I say so
04:30 papa        b) it is unnecessary copying things around
04:31 eythian     well, I suppose it's really returning a list.
04:31 papa        yeah, but if it is a largish list...
04:32 mtompset    I failed QA'd it, and changed it to depends on 1993. :)
04:33 eythian     papa: yeah. I'm wondering if perl does something smart with it, e.g. making it copy-on-write or something.
04:33 eythian     But it probably can't.
04:33 mtompset    I'm going to bed.
04:33 eythian     later
04:33 mtompset    Have a great day, #koha eythian dcook papa
04:33 papa        like I have allocated some memory for my list, and I'm going to return it, so the recipient has to allocate another block to receive it, and then I'll let the garbage collector to clean up my returning list
04:34 eythian     well, if the array in the sub would go out of scope, then you could just provide that anyway.
04:35 eythian     so no copying needed.
04:35 papa        I used to do that when I was in the army, they'd tell us to dig a trench in the morning, and in the afternoon to dig another one, and use the soil to fill in the first one
04:35 papa        nope, @a = some_func() will always copy
05:24 * cait      waves
05:24 dcook       yo, cait
05:25 dcook       yo all the irmas :p
05:25 cait        hi dcook
05:31 eythian     hi cait, irma, irma_
05:34 cait        hi eythian
05:38 irma        hi eythian, hi cait, I now have IRC on my phone, tablet, laptop 1 and 2 etc. and my fridge ... well not really on the fridge yet ...
05:38 cait        :)
05:38 eythian     heh
05:38 cait        hi irma
05:40 dcook       hehe
05:41 irma        *waves south towards dcook
05:42 dcook       hey, irma :)
05:42 * dcook     waves north
05:44 irma        pfew ... I am back to just me ;-)
05:45 dcook       A good way to be :)
05:45 dcook       I heard your name over at SLUG the other day. Or rather, I mentioned Koha, that twigged with someone, I mentioned your name, and they were pretty sure that's where there was a connection.
05:48 irma        dcook When the first public library in Australia went live with Koha ...@ SLUG that night, I showed the OPAC and talked about Koha ... A nice moment of shared excitement.
05:48 irma        dcook FYI http://sdwk.calyx.net.au/
05:52 dcook       irma: very cool :)
05:52 dcook       How long ago was that?
05:53 dcook       People seemed rather intrigued when I mentioned Koha, how companies make money while also working together, how the community works, etc.
05:53 dcook       Mind you, it was just 3 people around a table in the pub afterward rather than the whole room
05:54 irma        dcook April 2012 ... Pity it is too far for a visit ;-)
05:55 dcook       Not too long ago at all then. I would love to see more public libraries go up on Koha.
05:55 dcook       Hmm? What's too far?
05:58 irma        dcook "far" is further than the budget reaches ;-)
05:59 irma        *wishes all a pleasant evening. A bientot!
05:59 dcook       Ah, I follow now ;)
06:00 dcook       My French has faded... bonne soirée?
06:01 irma        Bonne soiree / bonne fin de journee ;-)
06:02 dcook       Excellent!
06:02 dcook       A demain :)
06:10 dcook       En fait, I think it's time for me to head out too
06:10 dcook       Good night, Kohaers
06:42 reiveune    hello
06:42 wahanui     hola, reiveune
06:52 marcelr     hi #koha
06:56 nlegrand    Hey !
06:59 alex_a      bonjour
06:59 wahanui     niihau, alex_a
07:18 paxed       i'm running the tests for the first time. is it usual to get (imo) awful lot of complaints, like "1.7976931348623157e308 not valid EAN-13 barcode at t/db_dependent/Barcodes.t line 25."
07:31 gaetan_B    hello
07:34 cait        good morning #koha
07:34 ashimema    morning koha
07:36 cait        morning ashimema
07:36 nlegrand    during the Marseille koha hackfest, Fridolin showed me a way to ask for all records in the search engine, something like _allrecords: but I don't clearly remember, what can I do to retrieve all records from a catalag search?
07:39 ashimema    morning cait... good to have you back
07:39 ashimema    sorry nlegrand.. no idea what the query is
07:40 cait        :)
07:41 cait        nlegrand: sorry, i know there is something, but not how it works
07:41 cait        have you tried google or the irc logs? it might show up somewhere
07:42 ashimema    hmmm.. pushing 100 tabs in chrome.. tihnk it may be time to close a few
07:43 nlegrand    ashimema, cait thx :) yup, I searched a bit the web, didn't find yet, will continue and reask Frido :)
07:44 Joubu       hello
07:44 wahanui     hello, Joubu
07:45 Joubu       cait: allrecords,AlwaysMatches=""
07:45 nlegrand    Joubu: great! thx!
07:45 cait        nlegrand:  ^^
07:46 cait        Joubu++
09:15 Hopla       test
11:15 kivilahtio  Hi there! I am working on bug 11676, which makes Koha ve greater! :) I have a question regarding getting the koha-to-MARC-mapping using javascript? Is there a ready feature for that?
11:15 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11676 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Needs Signoff , Loading shelving locations based on the item's homebranch instead of the user's logged-in branch.
11:16 kivilahtio  Specifically I would like to get the MARC-fields Koha uses to store the shelving location
11:18 kivilahtio  Joubu, marcelr, slef, wahanui, anyone?
11:20 cait        sorry, I don't know
11:20 marcelr     952c i guess
11:21 kivilahtio  marcelr: I know
11:21 kivilahtio  marcelr: Just curious if there is an API to get the from the javascript
11:21 marcelr     :)
11:21 marcelr     not that i know
11:21 kivilahtio  marcelr: those pesky values can be changed arbitrarily between frameworks which is a pain
11:21 Joubu       kivilahtio: no, I don't think so. But have to pass the value to the template
11:21 kivilahtio  well I can hack on up no problem
11:22 kivilahtio  it prolly needs no authentication neither
11:22 kivilahtio  thanks for keeping ears up!
11:22 kivilahtio  kutgf!
11:24 kivilahtio  Joubu: btw, thanks for introducing me to tig, makes my life more pleasant!
11:25 cait        and it's different for UNIMARC
11:35 Joubu       kivilahtio: it's a very useful tool :)
11:35 kivilahtio  indeed it is
11:46 marcelr     Joubu: if you got a minute, please take a short look at bug 12036..
11:46 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12036 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Neworderempty.pl fails to add items when itemrecorddisplay is too long (acqCreateItem=ordering)
11:48 ashimema    tig is indeed lovely..
11:48 ashimema    been using it for a while now..
12:05 francharb   good morning #koha
12:08 cait        morning francharb
12:08 cait        ashimema: what's tig again?
12:14 Joubu       marcelr: yes, I'm going to take a look
12:14 marcelr     thx
12:21 ashimema    git spelt backwards ;)
12:22 kivilahtio  oh no I think I bursted the tig-bubble
12:22 ashimema    cait: it's git spelt backwards.. or in a more detailed explanation.. It's a ncurses based git client.
12:22 kivilahtio  less cursing with n-curses
12:22 ashimema    http://jonas.nitro.dk/tig/manual.html
12:23 ashimema    pretty powerful in a pretty ui ;)
12:24 oleonard    Hi #koha
12:27 Joubu       marcelr: It works for me :-/ I added some subfields to my ACQ framework. itemrecorddisplay.pl?frameworkcode=ACQ returns 38098 chars and the form is correctly displayed
12:32 marcelr     Joubu: thx for testing; I noticed that the output also contained some script related to plugins; will test if it fails without them
12:33 Joubu       marcelr: Did you try git bisect?
12:33 marcelr     no i see no differences between 3.14.4 and master in the javascro[t
12:33 marcelr     script
13:17 rhcl        @wunder 64507
13:17 huginn      rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 10.1°C (8:17 AM CDT on April 03, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.66 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
13:24 Joubu       oleonard: Did you see my comment on bug 11601?
13:24 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11601 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Signed Off , Bootstrap theme has CSS files that do not have LESS counterparts
13:25 oleonard    Joubu: I did but thank you for reminding me
13:28 Joubu       Actually, I am used to ping you when I have a question related to templates. Don't hesitate to tell me if I bother you ;)
13:31 oleonard    I'm always happy to answer questions. I like being useful :)
13:34 cait        :)
13:34 cait        Joubu++ and oleonard++
13:37 Joubu       oleonard: I have just added a "templating" entry for 3.18 Module maintainers, if you want to join the MM team :)
13:38 marcelr     Joubu: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/What_does_a_module_maintainer  do ?
13:38 marcelr     bye all
13:44 barton      morning #koha!
13:45 rhcl        morning barton
13:45 * barton    likes to be sociable before launching into questions...
13:45 barton      morning rhcl
13:46 barton      was it my breath?
13:46 outtahere   ah, the " launching into questions" part
13:47 barton      What populates the date in the 'description' field of accoutlines?
13:48 outtahere   Ah good. That requires someone with an MLS.
13:48 * oleonard  wonders if that was Windows' "restart now?" dialog that just appeared suddenly, stole focus, and was dismissed by whatever I was typing
13:48 outtahere   MAS != MLS
13:48 barton      outtahere 'MAS'?
13:49 outtahere   Master of Applied Science (Information Technology)
13:49 barton      aha. never heard that before.
13:50 outtahere   Fairly new program at the local university.
14:19 oleonard    barton: Did you figure out your accountlines question?
14:21 barton      oleonard: I'm poking around in C4/Accounts.pm right now...
14:25 barton      looks like description is mentioned in recordpayment(), makepayment(), chargelostitem(), manualinvoice(), ReversePayment(), recordpayment_selectaccts(), makepartialpayment() and WriteOffFee() ...
14:26 oleonard    I don't see any dates stored in the description column though
14:29 * oleonard  checks out the branch in which he had started to work on Bug 1917
14:29 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1917 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add RSS Feeds for Lists
14:30 oleonard    "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, and have 1 and 1441 different commits each, respectively."
14:30 barton      oleonard: yeah -- khall's accounts rewrite may have fixed the problem.
14:30 * oleonard  's branch might be just a tad stale
14:30 * barton    doesn't know if that's in main yet...
14:31 barton      anyway...
14:32 barton      the code I'm looking at is 3.14.03.
14:35 barton      morning rocio!
14:36 rocio       morning barton!
14:39 barton      shell function returning the names of functions containing a regex:
14:39 barton      grepsub description /var/lib/koha/corpus/kohaclone/C4/Accounts.pm
14:39 barton      grepsub() { regex=$1; shift; egrep "^sub|$regex" "$@" | grep -B1 "$regex" | grep '^sub'; }
14:40 barton      (first line was example)
15:07 gaetan_B    the marc21_field_040d.pl seems to have a bug
15:07 gaetan_B    if you duplicate a 040$d subfield
15:07 gaetan_B    and click in the new one
15:07 gaetan_B    the previous one is filled
15:08 gaetan_B    this doen't seem like the expected behaviour
15:08 gaetan_B    has anyone had this as well ?
15:09 barton      morning tgoat!
15:13 reiveune    bye
15:32 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 12018 - add table sorting to patron card batches <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b78596311bb23eb4e81356cc07c12868d9a90b96>
15:32 kivilahtio  is this normal? I am trying to batch import a MARCXML file.
15:32 kivilahtio  [Thu Apr 03 18:31:50 2014] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Thu Apr  3 18:31:50 2014] stage-marc-import.pl: Filehandle STDOUT reopened as FH only for input at /usr/lib/perl5/Template/Provider.pm line 964., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/tools/stage-marc-import.pl
15:32 kivilahtio  I get several of these
15:34 kivilahtio  also bulkmarcimport.pl works fine, but stage-marc-import.pl does not :(
15:43 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11993: fix untranslatable confirm popup in request.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5da480b61b689c7497d386fdd0b9bd30f260d2db>
15:45 cait        barton: i think it might differ depending on what the accountline is about
15:46 cait        kivilahtio: what are you trying to do?
15:46 cait        if you use bulkmarkimport you won't have to stage the file, it does a stage and commit
15:47 kivilahtio  I am trying to upload a batch of MARC records to make acqusitions from
15:47 cait        and how are you trying to do it?
15:47 cait        do you want to do it from the gui or command line?
15:47 kivilahtio  cait: Well... I go to stage-marc-import.pl
15:47 kivilahtio  GUI
15:47 cait        ok
15:47 cait        do you have a mrc file?
15:48 kivilahtio  cait: lemme pastebin it for you
15:48 cait        are you running plack?
15:48 kivilahtio  but it works fine with bulkmarcimport.pl
15:48 kivilahtio  nope
15:48 kivilahtio  just apache2
15:48 cait        you can't import xml from stage i think
15:48 cait        only mrc
15:48 kivilahtio  well I tested it with bulkmarcimport test mode
15:48 kivilahtio  hmm
15:48 cait        both are not the same
15:48 kivilahtio  ok then :)
15:48 cait        bulkmarcimport is a different animal :)
15:49 kivilahtio  so I cannot import marcxml via GUI
15:49 cait        afaik
15:49 kivilahtio  ok
15:49 kivilahtio  I wonder if it is bad to code it
15:49 cait        if you convert it using marcedit or something it should work
15:49 kivilahtio  yeah that is how they did it
15:49 kivilahtio  but the problem is that we have several bibliographic record (cataloguin) vendors and some give as xml
15:49 kivilahtio  cait: Thanks fot the heads up!
15:50 kivilahtio  I'll try to solve this
15:50 barton      cait -- true. The description that I was worried about in particular was in fines.pl.
15:50 cait        sure, hope you can solve it
15:50 kivilahtio  I can :D
15:50 cait        barton: what did i say?
15:50 * cait      scrolls panically
15:50 cait        aah
15:50 barton      you were talking about accountlines...
15:50 cait        barton: in the past, there was a full string in description
15:51 cait        which was bad... becasue untranslatable
15:51 cait        i think it changed recently... should only be in master
15:51 cait        but the accouts rewrite is not yet
15:54 huginn      New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11393: fix display of Thai in language menu when Thai translation is installed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe205c907a6ec1959add1b24a5bf3ff09ee5149c>
15:54 kivilahtio  cait: yay! Got it working with iso-format
15:55 wajasu      i did a followup for bug 11573 to get the displayed description consistent, which doesn't really show the description, but dervies one from the other fields. (except for renewal).
15:55 kivilahtio  woowee
15:55 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11573 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , change description of charges in account fines
16:32 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
16:33 mtompset    oleonard: You here?
16:33 oleonard    Yes
16:33 mtompset    I wanted to get some feedback, insight, wisdom from you, our CSS/web designing guru. :)
16:33 mtompset    regarding bug 10823
16:33 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10823 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , add class info to enumchron data in detail.tt, for better styling
16:34 mtompset    particularly KF's question regarding div vs. span.
16:34 mtompset    Is there a set of guidelines for choosing one over the other?
16:35 oleonard    <div> is block-level, so by default it appears on its own "line," as if it was preceded by a line break.
16:36 oleonard    <span> is inline, so it stays within the flow of the text it is in.
16:36 oleonard    In this case I don't see any reason why the text should be block-level. I think <span> is preferable.
16:37 mtompset    Thank you. :)
16:45 kivilahtio  Thenk you everybody for creating such an awesome library sytstem!
16:45 kivilahtio  I'm going home
16:45 kivilahtio  take care
17:00 mtompset    Bye, kivilahtio.
17:00 mtompset    Greetings, nengard
17:00 nengard     hello
17:27 wajasu      mtompset: i have the zebra facet query in my local dev and am trying to decide how to map to the facet data structure.  what to do with the similiar returned terms.
17:27 pastebot    "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "example facet query with yaz for Authors" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/205
17:28 mtompset    I'd leave them separate. Any logic you add to try to make it smart, may end up being dumb.
17:30 cait        yep
17:30 cait        also, for what we know, they might be different persons
17:30 cait        and if you use authority numbers for linking those are also different
17:30 mtompset    Good point about the authority numbers.
17:31 wajasu      well, with cutting off in presentation, we will always 2 of the same name for most Authors.
17:32 mtompset    Yes, but the second is like a subset, right?
17:32 cait        hm that depends where you cut off
17:33 cait        we could showmore information in a mouse over
17:33 cait        like the dates the person lived
17:33 cait        or for the same, offer a tree
17:33 wajasu      today the cut off is 20 chars i think.
17:33 cait        showing the long names
17:33 cait        that's configurable
17:33 wajasu      yes.  mouse over shoud show all.
17:33 mtompset    Ooo... yes, mouseover... like.
17:36 wajasu      i guess as i iterate, if a term has a previously seen term, AND the # occur is the same, we could overwrite withthe longer term. (and maybe use the auth number).
17:36 wajasu      Don't know what to do about why the auth number is appended to some of the terms.
17:36 cait        ?
17:37 wajasu      <term coccur="4" occur="4">Tozer, A. W. (Aiden Wilson), 1897-1963. 11849</term>
17:37 cait        i guess you are looking at a whole field there
17:37 cait        and in the index it doesn't show the subfields
17:37 cait        only some might be linked to an authorit
17:37 cait        y
17:37 cait        and not all your authors are
17:46 wajasu      I will just load maxRecordsForFacets terms.
17:46 pastebot    "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "another yaz zebra facet search" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/206
18:00 cait        hm what doesn't look right
18:00 cait        are you sure the index has a good sttructur for facets?
18:00 cait        it looks like there is the $a and the full field for each
18:00 cait        or something like that
18:01 cait        i tihk defining what we want and which data that wuld be might be good before diving into programming
18:01 cait        for example i think that we should look at the whole record set
18:01 cait        and just show the most oft often used and then a 'more' link
18:01 cait        to show them all
18:02 cait        i need to have dinner.
18:11 pianohacker @seen cait
18:11 huginn      pianohacker: cait was last seen in #koha 8 minutes and 47 seconds ago: <cait> i need to have dinner.
18:11 pianohacker very reasonable
18:17 cait_afk    here
18:18 cait_afk    pianohacker:
18:19 pianohacker cait_afk: oh hai. Just to verify, you wanted me to update the documentation (on the bug?), fix the LESS files, and check for an untranslatable string?
18:20 cait_afk    yes and fix the library limiting
18:20 pianohacker oh that
18:21 cait_afk    fix it or take it out for now
18:21 pianohacker cait_afk: I think I might just have to filter out that error; it happens when there's nothing for pazpar2 to search. If you have any filters on a target, it's not visible to anonymous users
18:21 cait_afk    ?
18:21 cait_afk    sorry, i think you lost me there
18:21 pianohacker cait_afk: were you logged into the opac at that point?
18:21 cait_afk    yep
18:22 pianohacker cait_afk: as a user from one of the branches that wasn't filtered out?
18:22 cait_afk    do you still have my notes?
18:22 cait_afk    yep
18:22 pianohacker yes I do
18:23 pianohacker that's weird, then. lemme check on that
18:23 cait_afk    ok
18:23 cait_afk    basically, as soon as i had one library selected it broke
18:23 cait_afk    and the basic feature didn't work
18:24 mtompset    Actually, I just got back from a chauffeur job... wajasu, the "duplicates" look like someone didn't catalogue the authorities the same way consistently.
18:25 cait_afk    mtompset: actually i think they look a bit too consistent
18:25 cait_afk    to be just catalouging errors
18:25 cait_afk    mtompset: i think index structure - one would need to take a look at the records linked
18:27 mtompset    cait_afk: You are right. You'd have to check out the records. Perhaps they are consistent because they come from different cataloguing sources (e.g. did z39.50 search and imported from different servers for various titles with the same author)
18:35 gaetan_B    bye!
18:44 atheia      g'night everyone!
19:16 pianohacker brb
19:23 cait_afk    bgkriegel++
19:24 pianohacker back
19:32 * cait_afk  is still here
19:32 pianohacker pianohacker--
19:32 huginn      pianohacker: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
19:32 wajasu      mtompset: my records were from an old library MSDOS/window software system where the librarian used marcedit to get author, title etc for years. I exported them as .mrc records, and wrote a program to query LOC, and some other z3950 servers, and wrote enriched marcxml.
19:32 pianohacker jesus, I have no idea why I thought this code would work 6 months ago
19:33 pianohacker Its like I let my brain out to prance in the fjords for a day, then wrote some code
19:35 wajasu      mtompset: the records I could not find in z3950 severs, I manufactured programatically.
19:37 pianohacker oleonard: around?
19:37 oleonard    Yes
19:38 * cait_afk  sends cookies
19:38 pianohacker oleonard: do you have any good resources on getting bootstrap modals to properly autosize? They have a thoroughly fixed size that I had to hack around to use them in rancor, and before I port bug 10486 to them, I thought I'd ask if there's a better way
19:39 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
19:39 cait_afk    pianohacker: maybe we could remove the library feature for now and implement in a follow up?
19:39 pianohacker cait_afk: I just fixed that
19:39 cait_afk    oh ok
19:39 pianohacker I forgot to call auth.pm in any way, shape or form before checking for the user's branch, thus the headdesking above
19:39 cait_afk    so which code are you talking about? :)
19:39 cait_afk    lol
19:40 cait_afk    maybe you were thinking aobut opac views limited to branch?
19:40 pianohacker I have no idea
19:41 oleonard    pianohacker: I have not looked into that issue
19:44 pianohacker oleonard: kk, just asking, as this is the current solution (has more whitespace in the code): $(this).modal({ show: false }).css({ marginLeft: function() { return -($(this).width() / 2); } });
19:45 pianohacker you can see why I don't want to duplicate this too much :P
19:45 oleonard    What problem are you trying to solve?
19:46 pianohacker oleonard: modals in bootstrap have a hardcoded width of 560 px. If you want them to have any other size, you have to do the above
19:47 pianohacker oh jesus yeah
19:48 pianohacker ... that sounds rather odd when you say it in the wrong channel
19:48 oleonard    Just hypothetically speaking that is.
19:50 pianohacker oleonard: that code's in Rancor
21:06 HdezCortes  Hola Alguien Habla español?
21:07 pianohacker un poco, que quiere
21:07 HdezCortes  Quisiera saber dond Koha guarda sus tmp???
21:08 HdezCortes  por que el disco de mi servidor se lleno muy rapido y solo tengo koha instalado hay
21:10 pianohacker HdezCortes: está usando el cleanup_database cronjob?
21:11 HdezCortes  no
21:11 HdezCortes  pianohacker soy un poco novato en Koha
21:14 pianohacker yo entiendo :)
21:21 wizzyrea    cait++
21:22 pianohacker HdezCortes: hacer el consulta 'SELECT COUNT(*) FROM sessions' en mysql
21:22 eythian     hi
21:22 pianohacker hola eythian
21:22 pianohacker and wizzyrea :)
21:22 cait_afk    good night all :)
21:22 eythian     pianohacker: thought you were wahanui for a moment
21:24 pianohacker even as off-the-wall as I am finishing up this crazy semester, I'm not that nuts ;)
21:25 wizzyrea    haha
21:25 wizzyrea    our bot is "nuts"
21:26 pianohacker wahanui: our bot?
21:26 wahanui     our bot is "nuts"
21:26 pianohacker :D
21:28 pianohacker hahahahahaha
21:28 wizzyrea    :D
21:28 pianohacker hi trea!
21:28 gmcharlt    @auote random
21:28 nuts        gmcharlt: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
21:28 gmcharlt    @quote random
21:28 nuts        gmcharlt: Quote #277: "kivilahtio: jcamins, don't help me :)" (added by mtompset at 12:38 PM, September 16, 2013)
21:32 talljoy     i just missed the nuts
21:34 wizzyrea    @quote random
21:34 huginn      wizzyrea: Quote #178: "jcamins: IIS kills kittens" (added by wizzyrea at 05:20 PM, January 10, 2012)
21:34 wizzyrea    @quote random
21:34 huginn      wizzyrea: Quote #176: "rangi: buy people a glass of  zomg there's actually real things to care about" juice?"" (added by jcamins at 06:02 PM, January 06, 2012)
21:37 rangi       i like that one
21:38 pianohacker I think my favorite is still ILSeseseses
21:39 rangi       Koha .. ninjas don't care for your grammatically incorrect math issues!
21:39 rangi       there, beat that one
22:30 wizzyrea    @quote get last
22:30 huginn      wizzyrea: Error: 'last' is not a valid id.
22:30 wahanui     i already had it that way, huginn.
22:30 wizzyrea    @quote get 305
22:30 huginn      wizzyrea: Quote #305: "Koha .. ninjas don't care for your grammatically incorrect math issues!" (added by wizzyrea at 09:34 PM, April 03, 2014)
22:31 * wizzyrea  was hoping it would be a surprise someday
22:31 wizzyrea    and we'd all have a righteous chuckle.
22:34 * dcook     is so confused
22:34 dcook       Maybe if I subtract puzzlement from confusion I'll get contentment...
22:35 dcook       Damn, I should've mentioned division so I could talk about a remainder...
22:36 pianohacker dcook: don't make such divisive comments
22:37 dcook       But I was only trying to multiply others' regard for me
22:38 * dcook     should stick to English jokes
22:38 pianohacker this conversation is getting exponentially more annoying
22:39 dcook       Perhaps we should analyze the root of the problem
22:39 pianohacker nah, that'll just add more issues, I think
22:39 rangi       http://librarykris.tumblr.com/post/81569529250/question-via-a-friend-of-mine-ok-my-smart-peeps  <-- context
22:40 pianohacker these jokes are getting pretty derivative anyways
22:41 dcook       At this point, I think we're really off on a tangent
22:42 pianohacker maybe... I think all of these puns are integral to our conversation though
22:47 dcook       There are so many options, yet no one else is joining in. I'm getting an acute sense that we're alone in enjoying the puns
22:48 pianohacker don't be so obtuse, dude
22:50 dcook       Surely, I must be right to a degree
22:51 eythian     I think this has reached its limit.
23:12 talljoy     @later tell jcamins i've got a question for you on authority matching!  fun!
23:12 huginn      talljoy: The operation succeeded.
23:17 pianohacker @later tell cait 10486 followup yey
23:17 huginn      pianohacker: The operation succeeded.