Time  Nick         Message
23:25 pianohacker  bye
23:08 bag          yeah
23:08 eythian      yeah, I'd try hard to make the same one work on all platforms, it'd save a lot of hassle. But there's no guarantee that it'll be possible in the future.
23:07 bag          I guess it would be a good time to start that - no difference really though
23:06 eythian      that means that if they ever need different builds, that can be done too.
23:06 bag          I guess so
23:06 bag          HA
23:05 eythian      I've been meaning to make one called wheezy that is just symlinked to the squeeze one.
23:05 bag          eythian++
23:05 bag          thanks much
23:05 eythian      the squeeze one works fine on wheezy.
23:05 bag          hey eythian for the sources.list on packages - is it only for squeeze or is there a wheezy yet?
22:46 pianohacker  bag: We need to fix bwsbot. And thanks!
22:46 bag          heh
22:46 bag          pianohacker++
22:46 bag          just freaking cool man
22:46 huginn       bag: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
22:46 bag          @pianohacker++
22:45 pianohacker  awesome device
22:45 pianohacker  cjh: yup! Quite liking it so far, fingers are slowly getting used to it. Plus, now that I have NKRO, I'm learning plover
22:44 cjh          pianohacker: is your ergodox in daily usage ?
22:43 pianohacker  ah, right
22:42 cjh          kinesis advantage, but i can't use the palm rests while typing.
22:42 pianohacker  cjh: ah, kk. What is your daily keyboard, out of curiosity?
22:41 cjh          for me resting the palm while stretching like that is a huge trigger for rsi/oos, it is an interesting product.
22:40 pianohacker  yeah, I'd want it more for gaming/cad work than programming
22:39 cjh          little concerned about how far the hands have to reach to hit the keys
22:38 pianohacker  oh hi cjh :)
22:38 pianohacker  yeah, I know, I just think it's super cool
22:38 cjh          pianohacker: very cool
22:37 rangi        heh its not like it needs more backers :)
22:36 pianohacker  screw it, I'm just going to spam this link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/70308014/kings-assembly-a-computer-mouse-full-of-awesome
22:07 rangi        oh true, good points liw thanks
22:06 liw          rangi, also, LWN might be willing to do another Koha story this decade?
22:06 liw          rangi, if you do, ping me, I can blog to point at it (not that it does a lot of good, but...)
22:05 rangi        we are thinking to do something to tell that story, some kinda infographic
22:04 rangi        and that story never gets told
22:04 rangi        so yeah, even with the merge, there are still way more Koha libraries
22:04 rangi        By the end of 2013, there were over 400 installations of Polaris serving 1,225 libraries representing a total of 2,811 branches.  Innovative reports over 1,300 libraries using Millennium and 336 using Sierra.
22:04 rangi        http://www.alatechsource.org/blog/2014/04/innovative-interfaces-acquires-polaris-library-systems.html
22:03 rangi        is this
22:03 rangi        what is interesting to me
22:03 rangi        yeah
22:01 pianohacker  http://www.iii.com/polaris#questionone <-- I'm sure this will last
22:01 bag          and rangi that's not a april fools joke
22:00 wahanui      eythian is great at jokes. That everyone else misses them isn't his problem.
22:00 bag          heya eythian
21:58 rangi        http://www.iii.com/polaris
21:57 pianohacker  yo robin
21:57 eythian      hi
21:34 pianohacker  so useful though...
21:34 pianohacker  yeah, irritating bug, but the -e functionality is a little broken in general.
21:33 bag          thanks
21:33 bag          that sounds familar
21:33 bag          and just do my changes in bugzilla
21:33 bag          so don't edit
21:33 bag          yes
21:33 pianohacker  bag: are you using -e ?
21:32 bag          so on a patch I've got a name in there that has an ü in it and I can't get the git-bz attach to go through
21:32 bag          usually I get cait to help me
21:32 bag          maybe one of you two can help me out
21:32 pianohacker  yo
21:31 bag          heya pianohacker or rangi
21:31 bag          bummer
21:31 bag          cait1
21:19 pianohacker  yo rangi
21:16 rangi        morning
20:52 * wajasu     starting to play with NYTprof for opac-search.pl to gather stats prior to adding zebra-based facets search
20:43 cait1        good night all
20:43 huginn       nengard: The operation succeeded.
20:43 nengard      @later tell oleonard my css issue was with a comment - i used // instead of /*  !!!
20:13 pianohacker  oh! 10486! Coming, coming
20:12 oleonard     Bye #koha
20:12 cait1        pianohacker: where is my follow up? :P
20:09 jcamins      Look at that! A pop culture reference from me that *wasn't* to a Broadway musical.
20:08 pianohacker  cait++
20:08 pianohacker  hehehe
20:08 jcamins      pianohacker: don't make it bad.
20:07 cait1        hay...
20:07 pianohacker  cait1: hey fever? Can't stop saying "hey, listen"?
20:04 cait1        warm here too- hey fever is annoying
19:48 huginn       bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 15.8°C (12:48 PM PDT on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
19:48 bag          @wunder 93102
19:48 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (9:20 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
19:48 magnuse      @wunder boo
19:48 magnuse      bag: HI
19:48 oleonard     Summer-like out there today
19:47 wahanui      hello, bag
19:47 bag          magnuse: HI
19:47 huginn       oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is 24.0°C (3:35 PM EDT on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
19:47 oleonard     @wunder 45701
19:44 huginn       cait1: The current temperature in Bochum Weitmar, Bochum, Germany is 16.9°C (9:38 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady).
19:44 cait1        @wunder bochum
19:44 huginn       cait1: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.8°C (9:40 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
19:44 cait1        @wunder konstanz
19:05 magnuse      oh noes!
19:05 * druthb     snaps
19:04 wahanui      Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
19:04 magnuse      druthb!
19:04 magnuse      hiya pianohacker
19:04 wahanui      magnuse is, like, afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza
19:04 druthb       magnuse!
19:03 pianohacker  hi magnuse
19:03 * magnuse    waves
19:02 cait         i think they do
19:02 pianohacker  cait: do they display that way on initial page load, or am I making that up?
19:01 cait         i think we would need a sort option for 'in the order they apply' which might be the hard bit... (I am more awake now then this morning...)
19:01 cait         now looking up all rules for an itemtype can be a bit hard
19:00 cait         i was thinking that it owuld be nice to have an option to sort the circulation condtions - because then you could check your settings for a patron type but also for an itemtype
19:00 cait         we call it ausleihkonditionen in german... i guess i was not fully awake
18:59 cait         aaah sorry for not being clear
18:59 oleonard     cait: You @later'ed me about adding datatables to it
18:59 cait         issuingrules?
18:59 cait         or do you mean in the database?
18:59 cait         where did i write that?
18:59 cait         sorry
18:59 cait         oh
18:58 oleonard     cait: What's the circulation conditions table?
18:57 pianohacker  hi pianohacker
18:56 cait         hi oleonard :)
18:56 oleonard     Hi cait
17:26 nengard      off to check
17:26 nengard      i'm back now
17:26 nengard      sorry oleonard - had a phone call
17:25 wahanui      hey, pianohacker
17:25 pianohacker  hi
16:58 oleonard     .main has two styles to check: border and box-shadow
16:55 nengard      like the white background and white log in font
16:55 nengard      a few things are working
16:55 nengard      http://nengard.test.bywatersolutions.com/
16:55 nengard      so maybe it's why it's not working on 2 of the sites I'm trying :)
16:55 nengard      well it has worked for me on ohter sites
16:54 oleonard     Well nengard I know opacusercss works in bootstrap, so perhaps your first step is understanding why it's not for you.
16:51 nengard      in fact it seems that all of my css in opacusercss is being ignored ....
16:50 nengard      oleonard question about hiding the border around .main in bootstrap - i tried border: 0px; and border: none; but it still shows ... what am I missing?
16:43 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
16:43 mtompset     I'm off to do thank you letters and such.
16:39 mtompset     Greetings, oleonard. :)
16:38 oleonard     A while ago
16:38 mtompset     When did that happen?
16:38 mtompset     enhancement vs. new feature?
16:22 mtompset     http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ still says March.
16:20 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
16:12 dbs          So, xISBN likely just timed out or failed on the server side, and the test failure is not actually related to my commit (?)
16:10 dbs          oh wait, use_ok is #5 (#1). umm.
16:10 * dbs        feels a bit crazy but t/db_dependent/XISBN.t only appears to contain 4 tests, despite the test plan of 5, and he isn't sure how his XSL changes could be related
16:03 dbs          huh. http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1676/testReport/%28root%29/t_db_dependent_XISBN_t/Number_of_runned_tests_does_not_match_plan___146_/ ?
15:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Pushed to Master , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap
15:58 jenkins_koha Dan Scott: Bug 11786: Improve RDFa structured data schema.org mappings
15:58 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1676: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1676/
15:34 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11786 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dan, Pushed to Master , Improve RDFa schema.org mappings in prog and bootstrap
15:34 jenkins_koha Dan Scott: Bug 11786: Improve RDFa structured data schema.org mappings
15:34 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #403: SUCCESS in 1 hr 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/403/
15:23 * oleonard   did not expect there to be no cait
15:16 oleonard     cait: What's the circulation conditions table?
15:14 * oleonard   waves
15:08 reiveune     bye
14:11 jenkins_koha Starting build #403 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:02 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11786: Improve RDFa structured data schema.org mappings <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3bc1021deb851db8965e9ac3a8ff89aba71f6acc>
13:59 jenkins_koha Starting build #1676 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:52 ashimema     ;)
13:50 jcamins      It should fall back to en... but I'm glad I got it right!
13:49 ashimema     I've still not gotten to the bottom of that queryparser problem and was hoping you may be able to drop some more hints some time..
13:48 ashimema     hey, jcamins.. you about for a few mins..
13:48 ashimema     I presumed it would default back to normal en.. (like prog and ccsr both do).. rather than screw up
13:48 ashimema     but en-GB hadn't been installed on the system yet.
13:47 ashimema     The db I had imported was set to use en-GB
13:47 ashimema     that's a nasty one..
13:45 jcamins      ashimema: and you're using plain en?
13:43 ashimema     turn on bootstrap and it complains.
13:42 ashimema     well.. clean install with an old db.. for upgrade..
13:42 ashimema     it's a clean install..
13:42 ashimema     hmm.
13:39 jcamins      ashimema: you need to update the templates?
13:35 magnuse      dunno :-)
13:35 ashimema     yeah.. but where is that coming from
13:35 magnuse      it's looking for a file called cssinclude?
13:35 ashimema     and 3.14.4 for that matter.
13:34 ashimema     it's with bootstrap theme turned on.. in 3.14.5
13:34 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (3:20 PM CEST on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
13:34 ashimema     anyone here know what can cause this error: Template process failed: file error - cssinclude: not found at /home2/blds/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 132.
13:34 magnuse      @wunder boo
13:26 huginn       rhcl: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is -1.1°C (8:20 AM CDT on April 01, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising).
13:25 rhcl         @wunder 64507
12:48 ashimema     it's quiet in here.. something tells me it's the lack of cait ;)
12:36 huginn       ashimema: The operation succeeded.
12:36 ashimema     @later tell pianohacker give us a shout when you on mate.. wanna pick your brains about shib.
12:34 huginn       ashimema: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 1 day, 21 hours, 15 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <pianohacker> woot woot timezones
12:34 ashimema     @seen pianohacker
12:25 NateC        hiya magnuse!
12:24 francharb    o/ magnuse
12:24 magnuse      kia ora NateC and francharb
12:20 francharb    morning
12:19 NateC        morning everyone :)
10:01 mtj          vfernandes, 3.8 - i think...
09:39 wahanui      Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
09:39 vfernandes   anyone?
09:38 vfernandes   which is the correct terminology: koha 3.8 or koha 3.08?
09:37 vfernandes   hi :)
09:36 ashimema     he probably hasn't slept muhc in that time either ;)
09:32 huginn       magnuse: khall was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 6 days, 18 hours, 49 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <khall> also, I like the icon
09:32 magnuse      @seen khall
09:31 magnuse      gah!
09:31 wahanui      That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, magnuse
09:31 magnuse      Joubu: awesome!
09:27 paxed        can i do a search for a call number starting with 03?
09:27 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
09:27 Joubu        magnuse: bug 11703 is waiting for an answer, I started QA on it :)
09:15 ashimema     Yeah, Crossover and Achieva Shimian are 'dodgy' south korean imports.. they use mostly the same panels internally as all the big boys but the ut costs by limiting down the number of connectivity options... but to be honest.. who uses more than one or two anyways ;)
09:14 magnuse      mtj: my pleasure!
09:11 mtj          magnuse, thanks for the ajax-circ url… i had not seen khall's patch before :)
09:02 mtj          AOC ive heard good things, but not heard of the last 2
09:02 ashimema     wondered if anyone had any experience with the latter two above.. lots on ebay for remarkably low prices..
09:01 ashimema     would love to be able to go high spec like Ilyama and Dell or Viewsonic.. but need must ;)
09:01 ashimema     I'm not on an especially big budget though.. so it rules out the likes of Dell in favour of Hazro and AOC.. or from korea the likes of Crossover or Achieva Shimian
09:00 mtj          ah ok :)
08:59 ashimema     I've only just started looking..
08:59 mtj          ashimema, what monitor brands are you considering over there..?
08:58 mtj          hey magnuse :p
08:58 magnuse      wassup mtj!
08:58 mtj          evening all
08:36 magnuse      hiya atheia
08:20 ashimema     Cheers dcook.
08:15 atheia       G'morning all!
07:31 * dcook      frowns
07:31 dcook        Whoa. 6:30pm?
07:28 dcook        I've had good experience with Mwave.com.au but I think they're just Oz and the US?
07:28 dcook        Alas, no idea for the UK, ashimema.
07:27 dcook        Ooo mouse support in Curses::UI...noice
07:25 ashimema     seems 'to good to be true'.. but reviews are generally favourable it seems
07:25 ashimema     anyone had any experiences with the super cheap korean imports?
07:24 ashimema     so, after the backlight blew in my old dell.. i'm on the hunt for a new monitor..
07:24 magnuse      hiya ashimema
07:24 ashimema     good morning all
07:12 magnuse      and hiya mtj!
07:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11703 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Convert checkouts table to ajax datatable
07:12 magnuse      bug 11703 - just waitin' for some qa love...
07:09 dcook        Encapsulation, that's what I meant. Next to no encapsulation. Muahaha.
07:08 dcook        Easy to hack an object :D
07:08 dcook        One good thing about Perl OOP infrastructure not being that good...
07:07 mtj          i just remembered Jesse's ajax circ stuff… from a while ago
07:06 mtj          rangi, i really enjoyed those curses and tk links before :)
06:43 * dcook      waves to the French folk :)
06:43 * dcook      wonders when it became 5:43pm..
06:42 alex_a       bonjour
06:39 wahanui      que tal, reiveune
06:39 reiveune     hello
06:22 rangi        that was 30% sub coverage and less than %20 code only a few years ago
06:22 rangi        http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/HTML_Report/
06:21 * magnuse    waves
06:21 rangi        nice
06:21 papa         he has a secret agenda - wants me to add tests for everything in Koha that has no tests
06:20 rangi        heh
06:20 papa         rangi: it's all mtompsett's fault, he's been harassing me
06:09 rangi        *sigh*
06:08 huginn       dcook: The operation succeeded.
06:08 dcook        @later tell cait Good luck!
06:07 cait         wish me luck :)
06:07 cait         training a new koha library
05:56 rangi        papa++ #new patches
05:56 rangi        it'll never catch on
05:56 rangi        thats crazy talk
05:55 dcook        Or just the DVD version
05:55 rangi        yeah, its not like someone would ever want to put a hold on all the large print copies of a biblio
05:55 dcook        It's not like we're organizing items or anything
05:54 dcook        hehe
05:54 rangi        groups, who needs them
05:54 dcook        Yep
05:54 rangi        http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/kohaphotos/koha/acq3
05:54 dcook        http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/kohaphotos/koha/acq4
05:53 dcook        Err...or the old name..
05:53 rangi        :)
05:53 dcook        The current names of the virtual shelves make more sense now ;)
05:53 dcook        Wait, maybe I'm thinking of something different..
05:52 dcook        Silly rangi and his logic
05:52 dcook        Mmm
05:51 rangi        http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/kohaphotos/koha
05:51 dcook        Oh?
05:51 dcook        I suppose I could use Tk and X forwarding but...
05:51 rangi        this makes me sad
05:51 * dcook      wants to play around with GUIs at some point...
05:51 dcook        Neat!
05:50 rangi        never used in production tho
05:50 rangi        http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/kohaphotos/kohatk
05:50 rangi        i did one using TK too
05:49 cait         cool
05:49 rangi        still would be
05:49 rangi        super fast
05:49 rangi        until about 2002
05:49 rangi        yes
05:48 dcook        Ah, then again, 2008 according to UI.pm...
05:48 cait         rangi: was it used?
05:48 cait         cool :)
05:48 dcook        I don't think Curses::UI has changed much from that time
05:47 dcook        Cool, rangi :)
05:46 rangi        dcook: http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/kohaphotos/kohacurses
05:41 dcook        Well, ok, lots of people probably would, but they're probably also sexist
05:41 dcook        Yeah, I don't think anyone can say they're too impressed with Github these days
05:41 dcook        Sounds good to me
05:39 wahanui      hmmm... http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git is automatically up to date
05:39 rangi        http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git
05:39 rangi        but repo.or.cz is usually ever only an hour or so behind
05:38 rangi        well not github, cos its full of sexist dicks and is proprietary :)
05:38 dcook        Yeah, I ended up using Github in the end
05:38 rangi        like repo.or.cz
05:37 rangi        you can always use one of the mirrors
05:37 dcook        Hmm, maybe next time I'll use my semi-out of date master instead of using the web ui :p
05:36 rangi        specially when people go 'this is too slow, ill ctrl-c and try again, oh and ill refresh the gitweb page too'
05:36 dcook        rangi: I had a feeling that might be the case recently
05:35 rangi        its quite easy to DOS something by git cloning it to death
05:34 rangi        using up all the ram
05:34 rangi        and cloning
05:34 rangi        its cos some eggs keep cloning
05:33 dcook        Bug trackers should show things a bit more visually...
05:33 cait         comment 113
05:33 cait         but looks like i tested it before
05:32 cait         a bit
05:32 dcook        I have difficulty following after 20-30 comments usually
05:32 dcook        That's crazy, cait
05:31 cait         dcook: git pull doens't work either
05:30 cait         over a 100 comments and patches from mutiple authors
05:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6739 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , expired patrons not blocked from opac actions
05:30 * cait       looks at bug 6739
05:26 dcook        Poor gitweb
05:26 cait         seems down to me too :(
05:23 dcook        git-koha.commnity.org appears to be down
05:23 dcook        Ok, not just me
05:15 dcook        Hmm, anyone else having issues with http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=tree ?
04:19 eythian      later
04:19 mtompset     Enjoyed reading your code, eythian. Have a great day, #koha eythian cait.
04:19 eythian      (it also tests caching to some degree by going directly to the database.)
04:19 eythian      mtompset: there we go, fix and test case added
04:19 mtompset     Well, I should sleep.
04:15 cait         hi eythian, mtompset
04:14 mtompset     cait: Good day! :)
04:14 mtompset     I didn't *MAKE* you. I just reminded you of the requirements for things getting into Koha. :)
04:13 eythian      mtompset: good thing you made me write a test case, it found a problem :)
04:08 eythian      hi cait
04:08 * cait       waves
04:04 mtompset     That's what I was going to ask.
04:04 mtompset     AH...
04:04 eythian      it should be _cache_preference
04:04 eythian      that's the error
04:04 eythian      yeah
04:04 mtompset     C4::Context->set_preference($var, undef); in the last patch file.
04:04 mtompset     Also... I have one last question while looking at the code.
04:00 eythian      whoops, I did just spot an issue in the delete_preference code.
03:58 mtompset     Oooo... K9 slippers. Nice!
03:57 mtompset     So, I can't test your code.
03:57 mtompset     t have memcache set up.
03:57 mtompset     sadly, I don
03:56 mtompset     a pox on memcache. :P
03:54 eythian      Caching is a difficult thing to unit test.
03:54 eythian      Not readily. a) I don't want to slow down running tests by 30 seconds, and b) if memcache is in the environment, the test will fail.
03:53 mtompset     oh, and the 30 second timeout... you could write a test to prove that.
03:52 mtompset     to prove that they work as expected.
03:51 mtompset     Yes, but the sysprefs.t should at least make one call with the new parameters.
03:51 eythian      Well, they can't go wrong, as they can't be fetched out by any functions anyway :)
03:50 mtompset     But you added parameters.
03:50 eythian      yeah
03:50 mtompset     oh, wait t/db_dependent/sysprefs.t
03:49 mtompset     set_preference doesn't?
03:47 eythian      (I think)
03:47 eythian      oh, I suppose I should have for the delete one. All the rest are covered by existing tests.
03:47 mtompset     You added functions in a C4 or Koha library. You should have .t files to prove them.
03:46 mtompset     Oh, and where are the .t files?
03:46 eythian      http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/12b9/?cpg=wnrss <-- wizzyrea
03:44 eythian      I felt that deleting them from the database directly in other files probably wasn't the best idea.
03:44 mtompset     BTW, I like the delete_systempreference addition.
03:41 eythian      It's only when you're adding a local use preference that the longer form is used.
03:41 eythian      I don't like it in general. However, in 99% of cases, only one form needs to be used (i.e. the "var, value" one.)
03:41 mtompset     However, I share your dislike for a mixed solution.
03:40 mtompset     I just don't like the explosion of parameters.
03:39 eythian      I don't like that much either, as now you're doing it two ways in one call.
03:39 mtompset     my ($self, $var, $value, $extra_hashref) = @_;;
03:38 eythian      Well, there's two APIs (in a way) and I want to keep the simple one the same as it always was. The extra parameters are the old API with a few more things.
03:37 mtompset     my ($self, $parameters) = @_;
03:37 mtompset     Couldn't you hashref'd them?
03:36 mtompset     eythian: Did you add parameters to set_preference?
03:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Syspref caching issues
03:19 eythian      Bug 11998 is ready for signoff if anyone wants something to do...
02:54 eythian      well, cache clearing appears to be working as I'd expect.
02:48 mtompset     Koha is working towards Skynet conciousness! :P
02:48 eythian      ummm...maybe?
02:48 mtompset     Ah... is it like those random bits of code that caused the robots to congregate in a corner in the box cars in iRobot? ;)
02:47 eythian      It will lower the responsiveness in general, but hopefully will speed it up with plack and memcache a little.
02:47 eythian      it's not deliberate, it's just what's happening.
02:47 mtompset     At least that's my theory. :)
02:46 mtompset     Well, it does increase the responsiveness of the other pages.
02:46 eythian      More than I expected are getting put into the cache from just loading the front page.
02:45 eythian      No, whenever you query a syspref, it sticks the value into memcache so it doesn't have to talk to the DB again.
02:45 eythian      It'll be loading the INIT/BEGIN blocks of many dependent modules.
02:45 mtompset     So the main page refills memcache each time?
02:44 eythian      No, I was already logged in.
02:44 mtompset     wouldn't that happen at login time?
02:43 eythian      by which I mean, it requests those prefs, and they get put into memcache as part of that process.
02:42 eythian      Wow, just loading the staff client homepage sure causes a lot of sysprefs to be put into memcache.
02:38 eythian      in case you find someone making unreasonable demands, you can tell them they can't have a pony either.
02:37 mtompset     Why would wahanui need to know about a pony?
02:37 mtompset     pony?!
02:37 eythian      oh
02:36 wahanui      i already had it that way, eythian.
02:36 eythian      wahanui: pony is <reply>http://uber.geek.nz/pony.jpg
02:19 wahanui      eythian: goodbye =is= <reply>I hope the rest of your day is as pleasant as you are.
02:19 eythian      wahanui: literal goodbye
02:19 wahanui      okay, eythian.
02:19 eythian      no wahanui, goodbye is <reply>\I hope the rest of \your day is as pleasant as you are.
02:18 wahanui      eythian: goodbye =is= <reply>I hope the rest of wahanui's day is as pleasant as you are.
02:18 eythian      wahanui: literal goodbye
02:18 wahanui      OK, eythian.
02:18 eythian      wahanui: goodbye is <reply>\I hope the rest of your day is as pleasant as you are.
02:18 wahanui      eythian: what?
02:18 eythian      wahanui: literal goodbye
02:18 wahanui      eythian: sorry...
02:18 eythian      wahanui: literal bye
00:38 mtompset     Not a problem. Care to look at a couple of mine? ;)
00:25 mtj          thanks for looking at my bugs :)
00:24 mtj          gotcha
00:23 mtompset     10823 adding the styling, and 10825 preventing duplication.
00:23 mtompset     Then we could tweak 10825 to be dependent on 10823.
00:23 mtj          ill have a whack at them a bit later today
00:22 mtj          yep , will do
00:22 mtompset     If that looks gooed to you, you sign off 10823, and I'll sign off, and then we mark it as signed off, and QA should be able to take it away. :)
00:21 mtompset     It happens to the best of us.
00:21 mtj          mtompset, thanks for spotting that… its a pretty goofy mistake i made
00:03 mtompset     I just fixed up the itemloo vs. item problem on your patch.
00:02 mtj          just reading up now… :)
00:02 mtompset     I don't know what to respond to KF's question regarding div vs. span.
00:00 mtompset     sounds right.
00:00 mtj          hmm 10823 and 10825 perhaps
00:00 mtompset     Not sure... let me go hunting again.