Time Nick Message 23:11 mtompset Musical flashback -- (http://youtu.be/dlPjxz4LGak) I thought it was money for nothing and chicks for free. ;) 23:04 dcook I'm doubly intrigued 23:03 rangi both 23:03 dcook Money or browsers? 23:03 rangi and i do think it is an actual problem, in all seriousness 23:03 dcook rangi: v true 23:03 dcook Or even Chrome. Perhaps things are (slowly) changing 23:03 rangi thats a prosentient problem too 23:03 dcook That said, I have noticed a few places using Firefox 23:03 dcook They spend considerably less with us :P 23:02 eythian dcook: if they spend tens of thousands on a shiny new system, they're often inclined to allow firefox to make it work better. 23:02 rangi for the staff client 23:02 rangi and id be happy, 23:02 rangi keep the IE crap out of the main project 23:02 dcook Intriguing 23:02 * wizzyrea too mmmmm pie 23:02 rangi not a koha one 23:02 rangi sure thats a catalyst problem 23:02 * eythian heads to closing good pie place for lunch 23:02 dcook rangi: You don't but some of your clients might :p 23:01 rangi cos who cares about proprietary crap browsers anyway ... not me 23:01 eythian ah right. 23:01 dcook With IE 11, I think 23:01 rangi ie hacks breaking ie .. i dont really care about 23:01 dcook eythian: Already has stopped identifying as IE 23:01 eythian Newer IE is going to stop identifying as IE apparently, to reduce this sort of thing happening. 23:01 dcook True true 23:01 rangi but they didnt break firefox 23:01 rangi yes 23:01 dcook Mmm, there are/were definitely some IE6/7 CSS hacks 23:00 rangi we never targetted, we just made it work for ie6/7 without breaking firefox 23:00 rangi except it still works fine in firefox/chrome .. anything that targets ie6 will suck in that 22:59 dcook We have some IE6/7 hacks floating around as well. Or at least we did a couple versions ago 22:58 rangi no, quite teh opposite 22:58 dcook The more standards-compliant IE11 breaks the workarounds we used because IE sucks... 22:58 dcook Well... 22:58 dcook You could say the same of Koha :p 22:55 eythian Well, it's the reverse: whatever they're using was targeting IE6 and therefore more standards-complient IE9 breaks their badly written CMS. 22:55 wizzyrea now that would be hilarious. 22:55 dcook Although I guess you never know.. 22:55 dcook I hope IE doesn't break Sharepoint 22:55 wizzyrea so no. 22:55 wizzyrea yea, naw, that doesn't really count. 22:54 wizzyrea apparently it doesn't break editing of corporate intranet sites. 22:54 eythian don't do that, you'll make a mess. 22:53 * wizzyrea spits water 22:34 dcook IE of all shapes and sizes...*shudder* 22:33 dcook hehe 22:22 jcamins That too. 22:21 eythian what, offline? :) 22:19 jcamins rangi: Geocities looks the same as always. 22:17 rangi is there any sites it doesnt break? 22:14 wizzyrea ikr 22:14 jcamins wizzyrea: !!!! I am shocked! 22:14 wizzyrea just putting it in the log so google can find it. 22:13 wizzyrea no that it will be any surprise for anyone, but compatibility mode on IE 9 spectacularly breaks Koha. 21:39 * magnuse waves to eythian 21:38 eythian hi 21:23 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: 3.12.12 release notes 21:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #181: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/181/ 21:15 rangi http://download.koha-community.org/ just the release notes to write 21:13 francharb_afk bye 20:56 cait rangi++ 20:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #181 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #179 15 hr ago) 20:54 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bumping version number for release 20:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #180: UNSTABLE in 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/180/ 20:52 cait :) 20:52 rangi doing my first release using the po files from the translations repo 20:52 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha-translations.git;a=tags 20:37 jcamins ^^ for getting started with development 20:37 wahanui i think git is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Version_Control_Using_Git 20:37 jcamins git? 20:37 jcamins That script will convert your package installation into a git installation (you'll need to clone the Koha source code, of course) so you can do development work on it easily. 20:37 jcamins Oh, got it right the first time. 20:37 jcamins koha-gitify? 20:37 wahanui somebody said gitify was at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify 20:37 jcamins gitify? 20:36 jcamins If you're setting up a development environment, the best way to do it is with gitify. 20:35 Rubens to development enviroment 20:35 Rubens then... I have install packages 20:32 jcamins Rubens: that's not much of an improvement over the livedvd (if you're referring to the downloadable images). And if you want to do development, you shouldn't be doing it on a production server. 20:30 * cait sends some coffe e 20:30 gmcharlt cait: rather good, but tiring 20:30 Rubens http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Virtual_Appliances 20:29 cait gmcharlt: how was egils conf? 20:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #180 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:17 * mtompset whispers, "If you install sudo and configure it, you can do those instructions under Debian too." 20:17 gmcharlt howdy all 20:16 cait hi gmcharlt :) 20:15 mtompset wizzyrea++ # love that gif. 20:15 gmcharlt wizzyrea: refreshing! 20:15 mtompset no new apache, if you use 12.04LTS. :) 20:15 wizzyrea gmcharlt: https://31.media.tumblr.com/94c3f4f22780e5d4b04a74787f89d56e/tumblr_n2x18xBnbw1r3gb3zo1_400.gif 20:14 cait and no new apache 20:14 cait Debian is probably easier 20:14 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages 20:14 wahanui i heard Ubuntu was a debian-based OS and Koha has shiny new ubuntu intructions. 20:14 mtompset Ubuntu? 20:14 mtompset If the Debian instructions are too sparse for you, you could try Ubuntu. :) 20:13 liw mmm, packages are delicious 20:13 Rubens ok 20:13 Rubens 3.14 20:13 mtompset Don't use that. 20:13 mtompset Rubens: 3.14 is the current version. 20:13 jcamins Oh, that's fun. the live dvd is from before the latest security release. 20:12 wizzyrea ^^^ 20:12 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 20:12 wizzyrea packages? 20:12 Rubens ok... plz instructions to install koha 20:11 Rubens http://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivedvd/ 20:10 mtompset Because Debian (and debian-based Linux variants) is the suggested OS. 20:10 wizzyrea seriously don't run a livecd in production. 20:10 mtompset Rubens: What LiveCD are you thinking about? 20:10 wahanui mtompset: i'm not following you... 20:10 * mtompset laughs, "Good one, wahanui." 20:09 wahanui i think centos is only recommended if you feel that my anticipated lifespan is too long. 20:09 mtompset CentOS?! 20:09 Rubens my idea is use the live cd to install, and then publish the image in Centos, using a virtual machine 20:07 wizzyrea http://kohadevreactions.tumblr.com/post/64049874853/a-live-dvd-is-a-great-idea-yeah-it-is-ill 20:07 jcamins And, for what it's worth, when my library tried doing that (way back), the system crashed every 12 hours. 20:07 mtompset Rubens: Using a Live CD for production is a bad idea. 20:07 jcamins That would probably be a bad idea. You should install Koha ("Koha" isn't an acronym, BTW) using packages, and make sure the server is secure. You don't know how secure the live dvd/cd is, and if you run into problems, most people won't be able to offer any advice other than "try installing Koha following the usual instructions and see if it works." 20:06 rangi Rubens: i don't know I have never used the live cd 20:06 Rubens ok... sorry 20:06 rangi also, Koha is a word not an acronym, you dont have to spell it KOHA :) 20:05 Rubens ok... can I put online KOHA from the virtual machine with the KOHA live CD? 20:04 wahanui somebody said unimarc was http://www.ifla.org/en/publications/unimarc-formats-and-related-documentation 20:04 jcamins unimarc? 20:04 wahanui well, marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html 20:04 jcamins marc21? 20:04 jcamins Sure, you'll just have to catalog them in MARC, either using MARC21 or UNIMARC, depending where you are located. 20:02 Rubens I have a collection of historical records, documents, papers (not books), can I use KOHA to manage all I have 20:02 magnuse rangi++ 20:01 rangi you should install using the packages 20:01 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 20:01 rangi packages? 19:59 Rubens I am starting with KOHA 19:59 Rubens hi all 19:47 cait nope 19:45 magnuse there is no easy syspref for showing subjects in staff client marc21 search results, right? 19:17 wajasu ok. i'll try that. i think i have enough docs to reference. 19:16 jcamins Yes. 19:15 wajasu well that gives me a lead. i probable haven't added the index properly. i did add stuff to the retrieval xml. maybe need something in the MARC... INDEX xsl 19:12 jcamins wajasu: ^^ 19:12 wahanui jcamins: what? 19:12 jcamins wahanui: at a guess you have not added indexes correctly. I can't troubleshoot, but that's the most likely problem. 19:10 * wajasu still hasn't successfully used dom, icu, facet query with yaz-client and elem zebra:facet:title:0 18:55 cait hi mtompset 18:46 magnuse hiya cait and mtompset 18:45 mtompset Greetings, magnuse cait. :) 18:37 * cait waves 18:35 * magnuse waves 18:01 rocio hey mtompset :-) 17:58 sophie_m hi mtompset 17:58 mtompset Greetings, sophie_m rocio. :) 17:57 mtompset Greetings, drojf. Long time no see. 17:37 mtompset netflix.com? 17:12 reiveune bye 16:45 jcamins ... 16:45 oleonard netflix.com 16:22 kivilahtio bye bye everyone 16:03 fridolin see you 15:58 * mtompset puts on his chauffeur's hat. 15:43 nengard hiya 15:38 mtompset Greetings, nengard. :) 15:30 druthb dern right. 15:25 mtompset You're a fish out of water. Poor Ruth. :) 15:25 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 12.8°C (10:25 AM CDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 15:25 druthb @wunder 77098 15:25 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -5.1°C (11:24 AM EDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Falling). 15:25 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5 15:25 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in West Loop - Old St. Pats, Chicago, Illinois is -0.7°C (10:23 AM CDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.38 in 1029 hPa (Steady). 15:25 mtompset @wunder chicago 15:22 mtompset greetings, #koha. 14:56 cait and... my scrolling was broken 14:55 cait sorry olli, not sure i understand what you want to do :) 14:47 bag hey druthb 14:46 fridolin hie all 14:35 druthb hey, bag. :) 14:20 kivilahtio progress feels good :) 14:20 bag :) 14:18 kivilahtio or just plain stupid permission mistakes i might have had 14:18 kivilahtio no matter the needless extra steps i took 14:18 sophie_m :-) 14:18 kivilahtio managed to get zebra working in my LXC configuration. This makes me happy :D 14:17 bag how you doing? 14:17 bag I'm well - nice early start for me today :) 14:17 kivilahtio how do you do? 14:17 bag :) 14:17 kivilahtio g'day bag 14:15 wahanui well, morning is a state of the cait 14:15 bag morning 14:14 druthb The problem with working at Starbucks is not the high noise level, or even the smell (*gag*) of the coffee-sort-of that they peddle. The chairs that are at tables—even with my well-padded butt—are insanely uncomfortable. 13:57 kivilahtio I have a wet dream that I could solve even a single koha-issue by not reinstalling :) 13:55 kivilahtio must be my crazy tweaking 13:55 kivilahtio hmm, I got it working by reinstalling 13:31 kivilahtio and the built-in koha uses some kind of authentication even if no authentication is needed? 13:31 kivilahtio apparently yaz-client doesn't use any kind of authentication 13:31 kivilahtio but I just can't figure out what is wrong? 13:30 kivilahtio looking into http://www.loc.gov/z3950/agency/defns/bib1diag.html, I can decipher that the error "1011" is Init/AC: Bad Userid and/or Password 13:29 kivilahtio when using yaz-client the same entry is as follows: 15:29:21-24/03 zebrasrv(4) 4027d843a47f0000 [request] Init OK - ID:81 Name:YAZ Version:4.2.18 cc3abee6f861d0166bef5333b1fc72fbdc8bd94c 13:29 kivilahtio cc3abee6f861d0166bef5333b1fc72fbdc8bd94c 13:29 kivilahtio hi there! I have a zebraliscious question! I am trying to connect to Zebra using TCP, I can succesfully connect, find and show zebra index entries using yaz-client, but I fail to retrieve any results using the Koha Search.pn function. I launched zebra as non-daemon to capture all logs and find this error: 15:26:07-24/03 zebrasrv(3) 4027d843a47f0000 [request] Init ERROR 1011 ID:81 Name:ZOOM-C/YAZ Version:4.2.18 13:29 cait know 13:29 cait rhcl: i couldn't - not sure who runs huginn, the wiki might now 13:28 rhcl nevermind, I guess I'm not registered yet 13:27 rhcl cait can you reset my password? 13:22 huginn cait: Quote #27: "<jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a collection of quasi-unrelated parts moving in closeformation, beating the sky into submission.")" (added by gmcharlt at 09:21 PM, August 22, 2009) 13:22 cait @quote random 13:22 cait finally managed to guess my password :) 13:22 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. Quote #303 added. 13:22 cait @quote add <jcamins> Non-fiction thrillers and new books on kittens, large print novels and lots of nice mittens, local children's creations, these are a few of my favorite locations! 13:22 huginn cait: I've exhausted my database of quotes 13:22 cait huginn is separate 13:21 oleonard I thought I was registered. Doesn't that mean identified with NickServ? 13:21 huginn cait: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 13:21 cait @quote add <jcamins> Non-fiction thrillers and new books on kittens, large print novels and lots of nice mittens, local children's creations, these are a few of my favorite locations! 13:21 huginn oleonard: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 13:21 oleonard @quote add <jcamins> Non-fiction thrillers and new books on kittens, large print novels and lots of nice mittens, local children's creations, these are a few of my favorite locations! 13:21 cait i am logged in I think 13:20 oleonard :P 13:20 huginn oleonard: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 13:20 oleonard @quote add <jcamins> Non-fiction thrillers and new books on kittens, large print novels and lots of nice mittens, local children's creations, these are a few of my favorite locations! 13:20 cait that will be it 13:20 cait oleonard: ah! 13:18 jcamins No, I meant poetry. 13:18 jcamins Non-fiction thrillers and new books on kittens, large print novels and lots of nice mittens, local children's creations, these are a few of my favorite locations! 13:18 rhcl if so, you may have to lower the inteligent scanning agent sensitivity to avoid all those oddball words 13:17 rhcl jcamins: are you doing a digital scanning project? 13:17 oleonard jcamins: What do you mean? 13:17 oleonard cait: Looks like the attribute must have "Searchable" checked as well 13:17 jcamins You know what I just discovered? "Sci fi" does not scan well... ever. 13:15 cait can only try again tonight maybe 13:15 cait bit stuck there 13:14 cait it looked like it should in the patron account where i set something for the patron in my overdues report 13:14 cait oleonard: i tried with: myfavouritelocation reusing the LOC auth value 13:13 oleonard In my system, for instance, I set up an authorized value category "School," and linked it to a patron attribute called "School." On the overdues page I see a filter called "School." 13:10 cait i can filter on lots of things, but nothign related to patron attributes 13:10 cait oleonard: i thim so 13:08 rhcl http://tinyurl.com/lw7qtoh 13:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Upgrade jQueryUI to latest version in the staff client 13:08 oleonard cait: Regarding Bug 11570, you don't see a filter in the sidebar corresponding to the patron attribute you have linked to an authorized value? 13:08 magnuse and yes, the fishing is great :-) 13:08 magnuse they are indeed: http://digital.deichman.no/blog/2014/03/14/do-you-want-to-help-us-create-awesome-services/ 13:07 rhcl Yea? I'll bet the fishing is great there. Maybe I'll check it out. 13:07 oleonard I hear they're hiring in Norway. 13:04 banana http://blog.manageelitetraining.com/employees-leave-bad-managers/ 13:04 banana is this why I'm reading the job listings in the Thrifty Nickle? 13:04 oleonard Grilled bananas? 12:58 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Haven't seen these errors in the log before" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/185 12:52 drojf rangi++ for signing off on the other one btw 12:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , Change pl Place-publication index for Marc21 12:48 drojf that poor little bug 11130 is still looking for a comment or signoff if anyone feels like taking a look ;) 12:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Kristiansand, Norway is 8.0°C (1:20 PM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 12:36 magnuse @wunder kristiansand 12:34 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -1.0°C (1:00 PM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Rising). 12:34 magnuse @wunder kautokeino 12:34 ashimema does magnuse taste good grilled then? 12:34 druthb There is nothing between Chicago and the North Pole but a thin wire fence. And some idiot cut the fence. 12:34 magnuse moahahaha 12:34 oleonard I lived in Chicago druthb, sound about right to me. 12:33 drojf lol 12:33 druthb yes, it is warmer in NORWAY than it is in Chicago. So very wrong. 12:33 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (1:20 PM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 12:33 druthb @wunder boo 12:33 oleonard Back to winter here. 12:32 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Athens, Ohio is -8.0°C (8:15 AM EDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 12:32 oleonard @wunder 45701 12:32 cait ... 12:32 drojf ok so the only option is… invite all of us 12:32 magnuse and more of than any of y'all, since we passed the equinox. so there! 12:32 drojf HA! 12:32 * magnuse admits to having sun 12:29 * druthb is evil like that 12:29 cait heh 12:28 druthb But I'd use "grilling", just for the hilarity of the ambiguity. 12:28 druthb either interrogating, as oleonard noted, or cooking over a hot flame. 12:27 cait druthb: so what verb would you use for 'grillen' in English? bbqing? :) 12:26 cait lol 12:24 druthb :P 12:24 drojf lol druthb 12:22 drojf university wifi. i love it 12:20 druthb which makes it *hilarious* 12:20 oleonard it does it you're interrogating him drojf 12:20 druthb two different ways, drojf. 12:20 drojf ? 12:19 drojf does that even work in englishß ^^ 12:19 * drojf grills magnuse 12:19 wahanui thanks druthb :) 12:19 druthb wahanui: botsnack pizza 12:19 drojf oh that would be lovely wahanui 12:19 wahanui i think everything is grilled 12:19 drojf everything 12:19 oleonard What for? 12:18 * oleonard too 12:18 drojf yes it was probably magnuse 12:18 * druthb blames magnuse 12:17 cait drojf: maybe it was that tall norwegian guy... 12:17 druthb tryin' to stay warm! 12:17 drojf lol 12:17 * druthb hides it under her cloak 12:16 drojf i don't have it. someone else must have taken it 12:16 cait drojf: now you stole mine? 12:16 drojf i wouldn't mind a little sun. :/ 12:14 druthb Won't get above freezing here for the next couple of days 12:13 druthb yeah. Sposed to warm up nicely there. But not here. 12:13 drojf oh it's early, 12 sounds ok then :) 12:13 drojf well… "nice" ;) 12:12 huginn druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 12.0°C (7:12 AM CDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Falling). 12:12 druthb @wunder 77098 12:12 drojf unfair 12:12 druthb At home, it's very nice. But I'm not at home. 12:12 huginn druthb: Error: timed out 12:12 druthb @wunder houston, tx 12:12 drojf druthb: and i thought it's cold over here ;) 12:09 drojf druthb! 12:08 * druthb shivers miserably 12:08 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Biltmore, Barrington, Illinois is -9.5°C (7:07 AM CDT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising). 12:08 druthb @wunder hoffman estates, il 12:08 cait sun just came out 12:08 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 6.0°C (1:00 PM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 12:08 cait @wunder Konstanz 12:08 druthb drojf! 12:06 drojf meh 12:06 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berolinastr., Berlin-Mitte, Berlin, Germany is 8.1°C (12:59 PM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). 12:06 drojf @wunder berlin, germany 11:58 francharb good morning 11:44 Joubu paxed: Patches are not yet on a remote branch, so you have to get them to test. The easier way to do that is git-bz. 11:41 drojf hi cait 11:41 cait hi drojf 11:39 drojf hi #koha 11:25 * paxed wonders why a koha-bugzilla-specific git-bz is needed 11:16 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 11:15 cait hm there is also a wiki page on how to configure it, you will need it for testing patches easily like Joubu said 11:15 wahanui git bz is git.koha-community.org/git-bz.git 11:15 cait git bz? 11:14 paxed cait: not yet 11:14 paxed Joubu: ok. 11:14 cait paxed: did you take a look at git bz? 11:14 Joubu paxed: git checkout -b bug_11631 origin/master; git bz apply 11631 11:12 paxed can do* 11:12 paxed testing the patch. i like what i can at evergreen side: git fetch --all && git checkout -b $bugfixbranch origin/master && testingtestingtesting && git cherry-pick -s $commitid && git push working $remotesignedoffbranch 11:08 Joubu paxed: hm? To do what? 11:06 paxed Joubu: do i have a way to do that from the commandline? 11:06 paxed i was looking at the code, no idea where it happens in the UI 11:06 cait so ... you might want to ignore me 11:06 cait and it might be the reason, but i am not sure - and not sure if you were looking at returns 11:05 cait that's done on the circ desk so you can print the slip 11:05 cait paxed: i think if you return a book on the self check it doesn't go into waiting 11:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11631 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pasi.kallinen, Needs Signoff , Make translation toolchain ignore useless translatable strings 11:03 Joubu paxed: If you agree with the patch, could you sign off on bug 11631? 10:56 paxed do* 10:56 paxed is that supposed to something? 10:53 paxed weird. in C4/SIP/ILS/Transaction/Hold.pm change_hold() calls ModReserve() without adding rank to the params. this does nothing, afaict? 10:51 cait okok :) 10:50 ashimema I'm sure atheia will find some fun ways to break his install at some point.. ;) 10:49 ashimema though I do liek the specific purpose of my dev server.. rather than sharing my dev machine ass my personal machine et al'. 10:49 cait that's a valid reason for breaking things 10:49 ashimema local is good though.. has it's benefits over remote.. 10:48 ashimema I usually end up breaking stuff when I test fringe install features.. like nginx and plack, and random zebra configurations.. 10:48 * cait offers cookies 10:48 cait ooh 10:48 ashimema thanks for the vote of confidence cait.. 10:48 * cait hides 10:47 ashimema good morning atheia 10:47 cait i never broke my local shiny koha so far... he must do something wrong :P 10:47 cait lol 10:47 atheia I did indeed, I've got a shiny install running locally, which according to ashimema will inevitably break sooner or later :-) 10:46 magnuse :-) 10:46 cait hm _without_ getting traumatized... 10:44 cait did you manage your koha from scratch install getting traumatized? :) 10:43 cait atheia++ 10:43 indradg hello #koha 10:42 atheia Indeed :-) 10:42 atheia Hi magnuse! 10:41 * magnuse waves to atheia 10:40 cait but you found your way back here - I will take that as a good sign :) 10:40 cait ah yes :) 10:40 atheia cait: No, First day was actually last Monday — but as first days go, there's been a lot of information! 10:38 cait first day on the new job? :) 10:38 cait hi atheia :) 10:25 atheia Good morning! 09:46 magnuse i will try to look at that towards the end of the week, if noone beats me to it 09:46 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, NEW , Separate po files for different MARC dialects 09:46 magnuse bgkriegel++ for bug 7939 09:28 ashimema :) 09:24 * magnuse hands ashimema a bunch of round tuits 09:23 ashimema thanks for the heads up. 09:22 ashimema I'll try and catch him at some point.. 09:22 wahanui well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 09:22 ashimema interesting.. 09:22 ashimema it's o the long long list ;) 09:22 ashimema not yet I'm afraid. 09:22 cait i think eythian was working on something with plack tonight 09:21 magnuse oh ashimema: did you have time to look any more at the plack stuff? 09:21 * cait does now 09:21 cait it's after 10 and I haven't managed to make tea yet 09:21 magnuse disrupt all the things! 09:20 * cait has the same 09:20 ashimema I already have that feeling this morning that it's going to be a very disrupted day :( 09:20 cait :) 09:19 ashimema morning cait 09:19 cait hmpf? :) 09:18 ashimema morning magnuse 09:18 magnuse hiya ashimema_away 09:18 cait hi ashimema_away :) 09:17 huginn ashimema_away: The current temperature in Monkswood, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 7.5°C (9:16 AM GMT on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 09:17 ashimema_away @wunder stevenage, uk 09:05 cait gaetan_B++ 08:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (9:30 AM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 08:50 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:50 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising). 08:50 magnuse @wunder boo 08:48 wahanui hey, gaetan_B 08:48 gaetan_B hello 08:48 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.4°C (9:45 AM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). 08:48 cait @wunder Konstanz 08:34 magnuse :-) 08:34 magnuse gah! 08:33 cait all this pressure... 08:32 marcelr so 08:32 marcelr magnuse++ 08:32 magnuse there, you better live up to your ++'es now ;-) 08:32 magnuse cait++ marcelr++ 08:27 cait I will try to tackel a few that came back from fqa and the holds bugs next 08:21 marcelr ok 08:21 cait the wiki page is here: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Message_transport_types 08:20 marcelr if is it not, it will be hard to get it in 08:20 cait i hope so too, but it's probably still a bit more complicated 08:19 marcelr i hope it is possible to review it report-by-report 08:19 cait they did some more testing during the hackfest and there is a page on the wiki now 08:19 marcelr somewhere this week hopefully 08:19 cait ah cool :) 08:18 marcelr the multitransport for notices is first on my list to pick up again 08:18 cait the multi transport dependency tree is quite impressive, but we need to tackle that again 08:16 cait and if you start... then don't know when you can get back to it 08:16 marcelr yeah 08:16 cait not always doable 08:16 cait hard to in some cases, i'd like to test bigger thigns at least for 2 hours without interruptions 08:15 marcelr first in, first out? 08:15 cait but i'd like to do more of the bigger older ones 08:15 cait Marseille helped to catch up :) 08:14 marcelr well you did a good job then this month :) 08:14 cait trying to get in as much as I can, but was travelling quite a bit 08:14 cait np 08:14 cait hi marcelr 08:09 marcelr thx for qa 08:08 marcelr hi cait 08:08 cait hi #koha 08:04 reiveune hi marcelr 08:04 marcelr hi reiveune 08:01 reiveune hello 08:00 magnuse bonjour alex_a 07:55 alex_a bonjour 07:42 marcelr hi magnuse 07:41 magnuse hiya marcelr 07:41 marcelr hi #koha 07:37 sophie_m bonjour #koha 07:37 sophie_m hello magnuse 07:36 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 07:35 magnuse wassup? 07:34 magnuse kia ora rangi! 07:32 rangi hi magnuse 07:31 * magnuse waves 06:30 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.2°C (7:29 AM CET on March 24, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). 06:30 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:01 eythian bye 06:01 cait later 06:00 dcook laters 06:00 dcook Anyway, time for me to head out 06:00 dcook Hmm. Maybe I'll have to try my hand at that code at some point then. 05:56 cait he is away now for quite some time 05:56 cait dunno 05:53 dcook I wonder if Tomas is planning on writing that code. 05:52 dcook Mhm 05:52 cait then add more nice things 05:52 cait first make everything work that should work now... (maybe not that a small of a step) 05:52 wahanui small steps are going to be difficult... I'm not pushing anything that I can't even kind of test. 05:52 cait small steps 05:52 cait yep 05:52 dcook Agreed. I think the introduction of the pubdate facet will also be nice. 05:51 cait but fixing the existing feature woudl also help 05:51 cait i think customizable facets would be great 05:51 dcook :D 05:51 cait it's cool that it's working with icu 05:51 dcook And figure out a way to update Zebra config when upgrading versions 05:50 dcook cait: It looks like the Zebra facets issues have mostly been worked out. I think someone just needs to write the code now :) 05:50 eythian I expect most of them are solved by the fixes in the opac, but not all of them. 05:49 eythian yeah, my task is to find the bits that don't work in the staff client and fix them. 05:49 cait ashimema was also going to look into plack again i think 05:49 cait good times :) 05:49 eythian yep 05:49 cait and zebra facets 05:48 cait eythian: a lot of people are working on plck again lately 05:48 cait :) 05:43 eythian øarsome, I now have the staff client coming up in plack, finally. 05:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9210 major, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Automatic carriage return are missing in print letters generated for holds 05:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11502 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Branch filter in "Holds To Pull" is too fuzzy 05:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11505 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Untranslatable table headers in Label batch manager 05:27 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9210: wrap long lines in printed hold notices 05:27 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 11502: make library filter in "Holds To Pull" more precise 05:27 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11505: fix untranslatable table headers in Label batch manager 05:27 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #179: SUCCESS in 31 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/179/ 05:23 eythian > Out of memory: Kill process 7869 (java) score 169 or sacrifice child 05:14 dcook Ahh, lots of given/when in borrowers_stats.pl... 04:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #179 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 04:52 dcook \o/ 04:52 eythian yay, now I'm finally getting 503 Service Unavailable, which should mean my apache config is correct. 04:46 dcook These statistics wizards are a bit terrifying.. 04:45 papa that sooo not true 04:43 eythian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_five#.22Too_slow.22 <-- papa, that picture sequence (possibly the best in wikipedia) applies here. 04:39 papa you too! 04:39 mtompset Have a great day, #koha eythian dcook papa wizzyrea. 04:39 eythian Later 04:39 mtompset Well, I'm off. 04:37 eythian oh, well that solved one problem, but perhaps not others. 04:36 eythian ah, after all that, I think I just needed to turn the Rewrite engine on. 04:36 eythian Well, I'm both trying to make it work with plack, and with 2.4, which is multiplying the fiddlyness of it all. 04:32 mtompset I know tcohen was working on getting Apache 2.4 to work nicely for Ubuntu. 04:24 eythian Many things have changed. 04:24 eythian I'm going to have to really sit down and spend some time on the apache config for Debian jessie. 04:14 eythian I have no reply to that that doesn't make me sound like a terrible person :) 04:06 mtompset You shouldn't hit VM's. That's too violent. ;) 04:06 eythian Turned out I was hitting the wrong VM :< 04:06 eythian gar. Trying to figure out why everything was working when I'd deliberately put it into a state that it shouldn't. 04:05 mtompset dcook: 'eh' isn't technically a bad thing. But I assumptions people about it could be problematic. :) 03:56 dcook night, wizzyrea 03:56 dcook hehe 03:56 wizzyrea and with that downer, i'm out. 03:54 wizzyrea kind of tone. 03:54 wizzyrea just with a "that party sounds like it was filled with lecherous dudes bent on doing things that aren't probably legal" 03:54 * dcook swears that he says "eh?" more now that he's in Australia 03:54 dcook Totally. It leaves you feeling a bit hollowed out, eh? 03:53 wizzyrea I think it was only pronouns and tone, I remember it being almost creepy. 03:53 dcook When they played it live, it was much more upbeat 03:53 dcook wizzyrea: Did she actually change lyrics besides pronouns or was that mostly tone? 03:52 wizzyrea or like that daughter cover of get lucky, where her impression of the party was clearly different from pharrel's impression. 03:52 eythian itym Harpo 03:52 eythian Springsteen? 03:52 dcook That's the one 03:51 dcook ^ 03:51 wizzyrea dear springsteen, there is no such thing as a king bee. only queens. dope. 03:50 dcook Which I actually haven't listened to yet. I just remember people complaining about it 03:50 dcook Reminds me of Springsteen's "King Bee" in the Lorde cover 03:41 eythian yup 03:41 wizzyrea yeah it's not so far from the original, nice to gender flip it though. 03:41 eythian http://www.last.fm/user/eythian <-- I may have been binging a little bit lately. 03:40 eythian this cover is pretty close to the original, which is good too. 03:39 wizzyrea which, I find the original song rather uninteresting and uninspiring, but the looped cover is quite cool 03:39 wizzyrea There's one I'm sure I've linked before of the gorillaz feel good inc 03:38 wizzyrea I love the loopers. they are awesome. 03:38 dcook Nice. Yeah, digging the cover.\ 03:37 wizzyrea ah this was always a great song. 03:37 eythian that was Thursday 03:37 eythian oh, yeah 03:37 dcook I believe you have tickets for a show? 03:37 eythian how do you mean? 03:37 dcook eythian: Is NIN still coming up or has that past? 03:36 dcook headphones ftw 03:36 wizzyrea well that particular thing *used* to work heh. 03:35 dcook heh 03:35 eythian s/ in master atm// 03:35 wizzyrea ...acquisitions seems rather broken in master atm, at least the cost calculating bits. 03:34 eythian quite safe 03:33 dcook Hmm, and in terms of visuals? 03:32 eythian http://vimeo.com/69575198 <-- this is quite a cool cover (NSFW unless you have headphones.) 03:30 dcook Mmm acquisitions 03:30 dcook Interesting that the condition was on the GetBooksellersWithLateOrders sub and not the GetLateOrders sub 03:28 wizzyrea (I was being sarcastic about not complaining if you're not paying) 03:28 eythian also, maybe you don't need to budget for it for some reason, perhaps it's paid for some other way. 03:27 dcook ^ 03:27 eythian I think you'd still like to know if it were late 03:27 dcook I guess so, wizzyrea! 03:27 wizzyrea should you? 03:27 dcook lol 03:27 dcook But you should receive donations as well I would think.. 03:27 wizzyrea I suppose you can't complain if you're not paying :P 03:27 dcook I suppose it might be to get around donations? 03:27 dcook A bit, eh? 03:27 dcook Need to have a rrp and ecost of > 0 03:27 eythian that seems like an odd condition 03:27 dcook Yep 03:25 * dcook tries that.. 03:25 dcook I think it's because my orders had no prices 03:25 dcook Two database queries.. 03:25 dcook Ah...I think I figured it out 03:24 wizzyrea yeah, I was just looking too 03:24 dcook wizzyrea: Didn't see one :/ 03:24 dcook eythian: I was pondering that but it looks like just a (very convoluted) database query :S 03:23 eythian dcook: maybe it needs a cron job to run or something? 03:23 dcook wizzyrea: I'll try that :) 03:23 dcook eythian: Tried that :( 03:23 wizzyrea there's I think a syspref for "how long an order can be outstanding before it is late" 03:22 eythian for those things, I tend to set them up and then go into the database and roll the relevant date fields back. 03:22 * dcook pokes acquisitions 03:22 * dcook would love to know how to simulate a late order... 03:22 dcook That sounds like no fun, eythian 03:10 eythian turns out it needs a dependency that wasn't enabled for some reason in the upgrade. 03:10 eythian ) 03:09 eythian (because it'd say there was no MPM loaded, but then say things like "ERROR: Module mpm_itk is enabled" 03:09 eythian that took me surprisingly long to figure out. 03:09 eythian PSA: should you see: "AH00534: apache2: Configuration error: No MPM loaded.", try: "sudo a2dismod mpm_itk" followed by "sudo a2enmod mpm_itk". It seems to fix things. 02:34 mtompset dcook: Tomas is on his honeymoon right now, as far as I recall. 02:17 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 days, 18 hours, 31 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Joubu> hello 02:17 mtompset @seen Joubu 01:55 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 2 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <cait> good night all 01:55 mtompset @seen cait 01:55 mtompset Greetings, #koha.