Time Nick Message 23:57 talljoy back 21:55 wahanui Don't go, cait. Stay a while. Stay forever. 21:55 cait good night 21:48 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Briargrove Park, Houston, Texas is 22.2°C (4:47 PM CDT on March 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling). 21:48 druthb @wunder 77063 21:41 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.7°C (10:40 PM CET on March 14, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 21:41 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:41 huginn cait: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 7.4°C (10:41 PM CET on March 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 21:41 cait @wunder marseille 21:34 druthb hi, cait! :D 21:34 cait :) 21:34 cait hi druthb 21:20 tcohen :-D 21:20 tcohen hi cait 21:19 cait hi tcohen :) 21:19 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 25.7°C (6:15 PM ART on March 14, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Falling). 21:19 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 21:08 cait when do you have to get up? 21:07 pianohacker Hi Cait 20:56 * cait waves at pianohacker 20:42 pianohacker rangi: get a chance to take a look at that database slowness? 20:13 oleonard Enjoy, bag, I'm outa here 20:13 * chris_n wonders why folks still insist that pie are square 20:09 bag my first time here 20:08 oleonard Awesome. Never been to Rome. 20:08 bag Rome 20:07 oleonard Where are you now bag? 20:01 wahanui kai ora, bag 20:01 bag hello 18:52 barton bbiab. 18:52 barton Ok, I'm filing a new bug. 18:52 oleonard barton: I can reproduce that problem. 18:50 barton hi mtompset. 18:50 barton No, next available. 18:49 mtompset Greetings, barton. :) 18:49 oleonard barton: You placed item-level holds on all 3? 18:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10827 critical, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , List of holds does not update correctly 18:47 barton It's somewhat like bug 10827... 18:45 barton when I checked in one of the items, it prompted me to accept the hold. The accepted item had priority 0, but the other two still had priority 2 and priority 3. 18:44 barton I was able to re-create it without doing anything special: I had a bib with 3 items -- checked each item out to a different borrower, then placed holds on all 3.... 18:42 oleonard I haven't heard of that barton. have you discovered whether it happens only under certain circumstances? 18:39 barton ... I'm about to file a bug. I've searched bugzilla, and I don't see anything quite like it. 18:38 barton Has anyone run across a bug in 3.14.04 where accepting a hold at checkin does not re-calculate the priorities of the remaining reserves for the same bib? 18:33 barton afternoon all... 18:15 reiveune bye 17:41 mtompset okay, wajasu. :) 17:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11637 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , No way to prevent a prediction date for the next issue in serials 17:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , On cataloguing each user can easily display tags or not 17:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10647 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Make OPAC MARC plain view work for all flavours of MARC 17:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11762 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Pushed to Master , Sequence of MARC21 245 subfields different on XSLT result list and detail page 17:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11403 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , renew page missing help file 17:33 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11637: don't try to guess publication dates for irregular subscriptions 17:33 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9366: add widget to bib editor to control display of the MARC tags 17:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9114 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , exported MARC frameworks encoding should be UTF-8 17:33 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 10647 - Make OPAC MARC plain view work for all flavours of MARC 17:33 jenkins_koha * A. Sassmannshausen: Bug 11762 - bootstrap: Re-order 245 $a $b $h in results. 17:33 jenkins_koha * A. Sassmannshausen: Bug 11762 - intranet & prog: Re-order 245 $a $b $h in results. 17:33 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 11403: (follow-up) Fix typo in renew help 17:33 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9114: Make frameworks import/export routines correctly use UTF-8 17:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1665: SUCCESS in 2 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1665/ 17:19 bag : so JesseM and I are sitting in a little caferia on the side of the street enjoying ichnusa beer 17:06 sophie_m bye 16:54 tcohen paul_p+ 16:54 tcohen biblibre++ 16:53 magnuse_ biblibre++ marseille++ paul_p++ 16:52 pianohacker paul_p++ 16:52 cait paul_p++ 16:52 cait biblibre++ pau_p++ 16:51 pianohacker biblibre++ 16:51 pianohacker bye all! you have been lovely, marseille 16:51 cait good bye biblibre :) 16:50 cait good bye marseille 16:22 wajasu mtompset: have to go migrate library email domain today. will work this later today/tonight. 16:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11637 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , No way to prevent a prediction date for the next issue in serials 16:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , On cataloguing each user can easily display tags or not 16:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10647 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Make OPAC MARC plain view work for all flavours of MARC 16:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11762 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Pushed to Master , Sequence of MARC21 245 subfields different on XSLT result list and detail page 16:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11403 minor, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , renew page missing help file 16:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9114 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , exported MARC frameworks encoding should be UTF-8 16:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11637: don't try to guess publication dates for irregular subscriptions 16:19 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9366: add widget to bib editor to control display of the MARC tags 16:19 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 10647 - Make OPAC MARC plain view work for all flavours of MARC 16:19 jenkins_koha * A. Sassmannshausen: Bug 11762 - bootstrap: Re-order 245 $a $b $h in results. 16:19 jenkins_koha * A. Sassmannshausen: Bug 11762 - intranet & prog: Re-order 245 $a $b $h in results. 16:19 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 11403: (follow-up) Fix typo in renew help 16:19 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9114: Make frameworks import/export routines correctly use UTF-8 16:19 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #390: SUCCESS in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/390/ 16:19 wajasu i think i might just hve to clean up my patch. and put it on my bug today, and let you check it out. this stuff is confusing. 16:17 wajasu i still see in the facets because its got a lost item for midway. 16:17 wajasu i have a scenario with 3 biblios in my db. if i hide homebranch: [MPL 16:14 wajasu i just have the yaml hidden rules setting 999h=1 in the rebuild_zebra when all items are hidden. 16:14 wajasu i didn't add an index as in zebra index. i added 999h=1 to the biblio that gets indexed. then the facet building code looks at that to "skip" the "hidden" biblio and not include it. 16:11 mtompset So you added an index to hide/unhide biblios according to what criteria? 16:10 wajasu mtompset: i think i got the hidden biblios via rebuild_zebra working in my personal patch environment and will test through the day. 16:10 magnuse_ (well, i am just about to quit - if anyone wants to do a later update today, feel free!) 16:09 magnuse_ final numbers: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Marseille_hackfest_2014#Friday_afternoon_-_THE_END 16:08 cait sounds yumm as well 16:03 talljoy with a healthy sprinkle of red pepper 16:03 talljoy i'm thinking grilled pizza with roasted acorn squash, mozzarella cheese, pinenuts. mmmmm 16:02 talljoy lemon pie. yummm 16:01 cait we had lemon pie, does that count? 16:00 magnuse_ ooh, pizza pie! 15:59 talljoy LOL 15:59 mtompset Or maybe it is 2pi day, and the r used to determine the increased waistline. ;) 15:58 talljoy indeed it would! 15:58 mtompset talljoy: Wouldn't that be pi^2 day (PIzza PIe)? ;) 15:57 mtompset magnuse_: Old license. :P 15:56 jcamins talljoy: mmmm. Pizza sounds good. 15:56 talljoy i'm going with a loose interpretation....pizza pie! 15:56 talljoy at least those on 'this' side of the dateline. New zealand already had pie day yesterday, i reckon. 15:56 rhcl If I can find some at lunch I might 15:55 talljoy who's eating pie today? 15:54 fridolin1 :D 15:54 fridolin1 and thanks for this super cool hackfest 15:53 fridolin1 see you all, 15:53 pianohacker magnuse_++ 15:52 magnuse_ for example some output method that could be used to create pretty graphs 15:52 magnuse_ and patches are more than welcome! 15:52 magnuse_ very cool if someone would give it a spin and say if they think it is useful or not 15:51 magnuse_ my attempt at being helpful today: https://github.com/MagnusEnger/kohaprofile 15:41 mtompset I would think so. You shouldn't be forced to update settings once you upgrade. 15:40 cait like before the patch they can claim, after they won't be able to until someone sets the flag for them 15:40 cait I know i just passed it, but then it occured tome that it will take away permissions for existing staff users 15:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7292 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Passed QA , new permission for claims 15:39 cait should we update the permissions for existing staff users when introducing the new permission proposed on bug 7292? 15:39 fridolin1 mtompset: yep, I think my branch is ready, just have to push 15:38 cait my brain is not working right now 15:38 mtompset If you attach it, I will sign it off. ;) 15:38 cait hm 15:38 mtompset fridolin1: You commented that you corrected the patch, but I think you forgot to attach it. 15:37 tcohen (or the latter) and then fix breakages? 15:37 tcohen Joubu: we might just use 5.012 (which implies use feature 'unicode_strings') 15:37 wahanui hackfest is http://www.biblibre.com/en/blog/koha-hackfest-marseille-2014 15:37 mtompset Oh... hackfest. 15:37 fridolin1 mtompset: yep 15:37 mtompset next year?! 15:37 * cait waves to gaetan_B 15:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11846 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Correct database update for debarments with 9999-12-31 15:37 mtompset fridolin1: Is bug 11846 yours? 15:36 gaetan_B and see you next year ;) 15:36 gaetan_B thanks everyone for this hackfest !! 15:36 gaetan_B i got to go take my train 15:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11944 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cleanup Koha UTF-8 15:35 dpavlin bug 11944 is a good number -- utf-8 cleanup for the win! 15:35 * mtompset continues to prune his branch list. 15:35 mtompset It's always nice to be able to "git branch -D" because something has been pushed to master. :) 15:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11797 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , auth_finder.pl: Odd number of elements in anonymous hash 15:31 mtompset magnuse_: If not 10825, how about bug 11797? ;) 15:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #1665 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:27 cait and i have run out of candidate developers for now anyway :) 15:26 cait hehe i will add a hint next time :) 15:25 * oleonard was not in on the plan! 15:25 cait but it's ok, i will find more :) 15:24 cait oleonard: you are fixing all the bugs i filed for new committers right now ;) 15:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #390 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:23 magnuse_ mtompset: yeah, got it. i don't think i'm the right person to sign t off, though 15:22 mtompset Greetings, marcelr. :) 15:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10825 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Needs Signoff , detail.tt displays duplicated enumchron values for serial items 15:22 mtompset Did you see my followup comment on bug 10825? 15:22 marcelr hi magnuse_ mtompset 15:22 magnuse_ yup 15:22 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 15:21 mtompset magnuse_: You here? :) 15:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11637: don't try to guess publication dates for irregular subscriptions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fac91e2ce1210ad202e321d1f4de2383ac693dd3> / Bug 9366: add widget to bib editor to control display of the MARC tags <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=24470f70e1e420883f3eb8cc594211568729f9ee> / Bug 10647 - Make OPAC MARC plain view work for all flavours of 15:19 marcelr :) 15:19 pianohacker I'm generally happy with the fifth 15:18 marcelr maybe the first time as exception 15:18 marcelr nothing better than passing a patch the second time :) 15:18 gmcharlt ok 15:17 marcelr if it refers to magnus' patch, i would say no 15:17 gmcharlt is there a problem with it? 15:15 * cait hides 15:14 marcelr magnuse_: your patch reached PQA before I could even touch it again 15:13 pianohacker she deserved it 15:13 cait ... and pianohacker is poking me!!! 15:13 gmcharlt to emphasize, the screenshot is *pre*-patch 15:13 cait ah... i am a bit tired today :) 15:13 cait i had some wierd things with cookies happen in acq once 15:13 gmcharlt I was just making a joke 15:12 cait we recommend that libraries delete their browser cache etc after an update 15:12 gmcharlt there's no blocker here 15:12 gmcharlt ah, no 15:12 cait is that a blocker? 15:12 cait ah sorry, i didn't think of old cookies 15:12 gmcharlt yes 15:12 cait so the cookie is still around? 15:11 cait ah 15:11 gmcharlt cait: pre patch, hide_marc set to don't display, advancedMARCeditor on 15:11 cait is that an old screenshot or one taken with the patch now? 15:11 marcelr pianohacker: what about notepad 15:11 pianohacker ahahaha true 15:11 gmcharlt pianohacker: on the other hand, super-advanced mode surely makes your life easier! you don't need to worry about translations! ;) 15:11 cait i didn't :( 15:11 cait gmcharlt: ugh reading back now - how did you manage that? 15:10 cait if you have advancededitor the options for hiding documentaiton links and descriptions don't show 15:10 pianohacker gmcharlt: we may as well stop development of rancor now, we've been outclassed 15:10 cait iwell at least I didn't manage to 15:10 cait ah you can't hide bothnow 15:09 marcelr :) 15:09 marcelr well leave it for galen 15:09 cait consistent 15:09 marcelr comment 22 15:09 cait i wouldn't go that far, but it seemed to work well now 15:09 marcelr i had some doubts last year 15:09 marcelr bug 9366 cait 15:09 cait huh? 15:07 marcelr katrin loves it :) 15:07 gmcharlt tcohen: yeah, the screenshot is pre-patch 15:07 tcohen but the checkbox+label still shows 15:07 magnuse_ gmcharlt: that IS advanced! 15:06 tcohen gmcharlt: the '?' symbols are hidden 15:05 marcelr hi gmcharlt 15:05 gmcharlt introducing... the super advanced MARC editor: http://screencast.com/t/yjuJxzjV27O3 ! 15:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , On cataloguing each user can easily display tags or not 15:04 gmcharlt marcelr: just for you, apropos of bug 9366 15:04 wahanui rumour has it icu is needed, if you want to search non-Roman characters with Zebra 15:04 tcohen icu? 15:04 wahanui icu is a good idea. 15:04 tcohen icu? 14:56 rhcl yea, see that now 14:56 oleonard leading space, rhcl 14:56 huginn oleonard: I have not seen davie. 14:56 oleonard @seen davie 14:55 rhcl bot done gone? 14:54 rhcl @seen davie 14:47 marcelr dpavlin++ #for utf-8 work too 14:47 marcelr dpavlin: order is fine with me 14:46 marcelr how is the party in marseille? 14:45 marcelr hi #koha 14:39 cait grex: :) 14:32 grex yeah i add, as soon i think, it's productive now ;) 14:30 cait i am always happy to learn about other german koha users 14:30 cait cool :) 14:30 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaUsers/Europe 14:29 grex yes i have this on the "to do". 14:29 cait so onw i helped you... when your library has migrated to Koha - would you mind putting your name on the wiki? :) 14:28 cait well, at least not hard to fix :) 14:27 grex so thats the problem eh? damn :D 14:27 grex oh. in marc fields it is Buch 14:27 cait probably BUCH if you have defined one, and that iwll make a difference on import 14:26 cait so the code if normal upper case 14:26 cait then you need to know that it's case sensitive 14:26 cait ok :) 14:26 grex i have i have 14:26 cait one itemtype to use for all your things 14:26 cait but still define one in administration 14:26 cait grex: that's ok 14:26 grex but don't get why it does not show in the holdings view, but in the opac view. 14:25 grex so i decided to just use "Buch". 14:25 grex there are no flagas like präsenz, nicht ausleihbar and so on. 14:25 grex but the problem is i have a old database from a dos program with 30000 Books. 14:25 gaetan_B including eating in a french restaurant, which we only did yesterday ! 14:25 JesseM :) 14:25 bag :P 14:25 grex mh, yes, in fact these are all books, why to define ;) 14:25 gaetan_B yep, we had to wait until bag and JesseM had left before doing all the cool stuff 14:24 JesseM something to look forward to for next year 14:24 cait but it#s really a question on how you want your circ rules later to be - for example we oftendon't use itemtypes (medientypen) here but make it circulation types (präsenz, normale ausleihe, kurzleihe) 14:24 JesseM No I didn't make it up there 14:24 magnuse_ JesseM: good! very nice view. did you go up there? 14:24 cait and then you put the code into y 14:24 cait administration > itemtypes 14:23 JesseM How was todays hike? 14:23 cait grex: itemtypes are defined in administration :) 14:23 cait you'd have to ask paul_p that :) 14:23 JesseM cait were you waiting for bag and I to leave to take the group picture :P 14:22 oleonard Thanks gaetan_B. Not nearly as good as being there :) 14:16 gaetan_B a few pictures of the hackfest are available here: https://depot.biblibre.com/gboisson/hackfest2014/ 14:08 grex <marc:subfield code="y">Buch</marc:subfield> 14:08 grex i mean i use it for Book/Buch. something says to me that was wrong ;) 14:06 grex but they have 952y 14:06 cait say you have 2 items where one is 'präsenz' and the other is 'ausleihbar' then you will need to set that to einzelnes Exemplar 14:05 cait it's important for circ later how you do htat 14:02 cait and you should give your items an 952$y 14:02 cait i would have left it to einzelnes exemplar 14:02 cait hm 14:01 grex to biblio record from specific item 14:01 grex which is ok 14:00 grex mh ok i changed "item-level_itypes to "Titelsatz" from "einzelnes Exemplar" and the empty item type in holdings view disappeared. 13:57 magnuse_ gah 13:57 grex ..oO(i have always problems to translate these terms to german, since i never use koha in english) 13:57 cait magnuse_: tried to... but didn#t get very far 13:57 magnuse_ so did y'all fix all the bugs while we visited notre dame de la garde? 13:56 cait you can turn it off via pref or you have to figure out how to set... 008 and LDR i tihnk 13:56 wahanui fixed fields are a problem for a cataloging editor. 13:56 grex fixed fields? 13:56 cait it's calculated from the fixed fields 13:56 grex oh 13:56 cait that is something else 13:56 cait aah 13:56 grex but in the holdings tab the itemtype is empty 13:55 grex ok, i use 952y and in the opac view there is a line "type:" and it says book with a icon 13:55 cait i'd recommend using item leven itypes, then it's 952$y 13:55 cait it depends on your item-level_itypes or similar pref named setting 13:54 cait grex: there are 2 13:54 wajasu in the defauult framework mapping the items "itype" maps to (952y). That may be it. 13:50 grex someone know which marc field is responsible for the "item type" field in the opac holdings view? 13:40 tcohen gmcharlt: do we have unit tests for scan searches? 13:40 cait if you 'run' a saved report 13:40 cait oleonard: because run is in the middle of the options, so it needs one clickmore and careful mouse navigating 13:39 oleonard ? 13:39 cait oleonard: hm one thing that strikes me about the nice new tools submenu - it's a bit hard to 'run' 13:33 cait tcohen: yeah, my unimarc installation is supposed to cover chr... but i think i changed it for some test and now have to fix it first 13:31 rhcl :) 13:31 oleonard That's why one should always talk all the time. 13:30 * tcohen has several koha-dev-* dirs to switch from one to the other as needed 13:30 rhcl then 13:30 rhcl that explains it thne 13:30 oleonard rhcl: It does 13:30 cait but i have the new apache and don't want to mess up the files rightnow by rerunning Makefile.pl 13:30 rhcl I wonder if it goes by the last time someone actually spoke, and not just changing nics or something 13:30 cait tcohen: i think i have to make usre one of the instances uses chr indexing to test furtcher 13:29 rhcl nope, exactly the same 13:28 cait rhcl: maybe slightly different name then 13:26 rhcl that's not right, he was on yesterday at 14:21 my time. 13:25 huginn rhcl: barton was last seen in #koha 2 days, 17 hours, 28 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <barton> Somewhere in the last couple of months, I asked a question or two about the scripts which generate notices and slips, and I think that someone said that these were likely to be re-written. Is there an open bug for this? (I did a quick search, but wasn't really sure what I should be searching for). 13:25 rhcl @seen barton 13:24 cait sorry, i am stuck 13:24 cait hm 13:22 cait but i have my doubts 13:22 cait it's supposed to be chr indexed 13:19 cait tcohen: going to try with unimarc 13:19 cait but if it fixes for chr indexing, that would make sense 13:19 cait tcohen: yes, can't detect any difference before and after the patch 13:18 cait ansÄb > index shows: ansab 13:18 cait jcamins: AHA! 13:18 jcamins I was testing with umlauts before. 13:17 jcamins cait: ICU fixes it for non-diacritic characters. 13:17 tcohen cait: with and without the patch? 13:17 cait the thing for umlauts is that they lose the dots/diacritic 13:16 cait and german umlauts so far 13:16 cait i tried with arabic 13:16 tcohen try with other kind of characters? 13:16 cait but i am really puzzled why i can't reproduce the initial problem 13:16 cait and it doesn't break anything as far as I can tell 13:15 cait i mean the change makes great sense 13:15 cait that suddenly i don't have @ showing up in my index terms any longer 13:15 tcohen cait: http://snag.gy/il5o5.jpg 13:15 cait my problem is 13:15 cait but can we go back to the initial problem for a second? 13:14 jcamins *that 13:14 jcamins Oh, I didn't try title,wrdl, since that's doesn't make any sense. 13:14 cait tcohen: that looks very familiar to me :) 13:14 cait becaus title phrase does for me, but title does not 13:13 cait jcamins: so Title wrks for you? 13:13 tcohen jcamins, from the scan results page, following cait's example I got this http://snag.gy/6PJmS.jpg 13:13 * jcamins heads into the city. 13:13 tcohen heh 13:13 cait :) 13:12 jcamins "fine." 13:12 cait grex: i guess it has happened to a lot of people before... 13:12 jcamins Well... 13:12 jcamins I'm using QueryParser and it works fine without the patch. 13:12 cait the problem is, i can't reproduce the original bug :( 13:12 grex dumb me ;) 13:12 tcohen so, it is a QueryParser problem, maybe fill another bug? 13:12 grex i know the undo function in the staff interface, but due some lack of .... concentration i clicked "delete" the batch before i came to the undo button. 13:12 cait tcohen: yes, but that is totally unrelated to why i am hesitating to pass it 13:12 tcohen yes, your problem appears when using QueryParser 13:12 cait ah 13:11 * cait too 13:11 jcamins I was just looking at umlauts. 13:11 jcamins cait: I didn't try the patch. 13:11 cait jcamins: do you see a difference between before/after applying the patch? 13:11 grex yes, i'm from germany ;) 13:11 cait arabic works nicely as well 13:11 cait but the umlauts still get reduced to the base char 13:11 jcamins However, other characters still don't work. 13:11 cait it didn't use to, i have screenshots to prove it! 13:11 cait jcamins: exactly 13:10 jcamins Oh, interesting. Actually, the display works correctly for me with ß. 13:10 tcohen maybe the query is not built correctly? 13:10 cait repeating steps 13:10 cait yes, was using queryparser 13:10 tcohen because it sounds there are no results 13:10 cait i might 13:10 cait hmmmm 13:10 tcohen are you using QueryParser? 13:10 cait but that's not a blocker, it also happens on master 13:09 cait Error: Can't locate object method "term" via package "ZOOM::ResultSet" at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 460. 13:09 cait enter 13:09 cait and type in 'fußball' again 13:09 cait i change that to 'title' 13:09 cait so by default there is Any Word selected 13:09 cait the ß now looks correct for me before and after your patch - which is werid 13:08 cait staff search - more options - scan indexes check - keyword: fußball 13:08 tcohen the patch? no 13:07 cait so what i do is 13:07 cait tcohen: it shouldn't need reindexing or restart of zebra, right? 13:06 tcohen maybe share your error message/log? 13:06 cait i have send up pianohacker to notre dame de la garde... 13:06 cait ok 13:06 cait nothin! 13:06 ashimema What you broken now cait 13:06 cait heh 13:06 ashimema Ack.. stupid wahanui 13:05 wahanui ashimema: That doesn't look right. Try 'airport code for CITY' or 'airport name for CODE' instead. 13:05 ashimema Airport wifi.. squirrely 13:05 cait tcohen: not sure what to try, maybe we have to postpone to another day - i will certainly try again. Maybe i will try with my unimarc installaton 13:05 cait grex: and i see that you are in Germany? :) 13:05 cait wb ashimema 13:05 cait they will still be on he patron account, but without title... (did that in the past) 13:04 cait but yeah, deleting imports with issues will leave you with data inconsistencies 13:04 cait grex: if you use staged import from the interface you can also undo imports 13:01 grex yeah this the -d switch, but this is exactly what doesn't work if any of the items are markes as lend. as far as i understood 12:59 cait maybe just try that? 12:59 cait grex: bulkmarkimport has a switch that will delete your data before importing i think 12:58 grex maybe my emailserver is spamlisted, but that won't explain why the mails sometimes get through. 12:57 ashimema Irc on android aling with my own bad spelllung leaves for some epic typos 12:57 oleonard That even hurt my eyes ashimema ;) 12:57 ashimema Apologies to all French reading that, it qas a real butchering of the spelling 12:56 ashimema Sounds tasy, I picked up a croc masuer on the way 12:55 cait and lemon cake 12:55 cait you missed french lunch :) 12:54 ashimema Lol 12:54 cait ashimema: so come back here? :) 12:54 wahanui cait: That doesn't look right. Try 'airport code for CITY' or 'airport name for CODE' instead. 12:54 cait ashimema: airport? :) 12:54 wahanui ashimema: That doesn't look right. Try 'airport code for CITY' or 'airport name for CODE' instead. 12:54 ashimema Airports are boring 12:54 cait i think i have to read back 12:53 tcohen hola :-d 12:53 ashimema Oh la 12:53 jcamins Not the problem that cait reports. 12:53 jcamins I mean, the one that tcohen worked on. 12:51 jcamins I tested with ICU, and I saw the bug too. 12:50 tcohen i've tested in grs1 and dom, but not ICU 12:50 cait the umlauts? 12:50 tcohen is it the only thing that is broken? 12:50 cait tcohen: might have something to do with grs1/icu dom/... whatever? 12:50 cait tcohen: no idea why it works weirdly for me rightnow 12:50 cait tcohen: yeah it's strange :( 12:49 grex and no bounce back, just nothing 12:49 grex and nothing appeared. 12:49 grex and as well today 30 minutes ago. 12:49 grex but i.e. yesterday 7pm (GMT+1) i sent an email. 12:49 grex something like this 12:49 grex well usually they take 2-15 minutes 12:48 grex yes this 12:48 oleonard grex: Are your messages getting bounced, or do they just take longer than you expect to appear? 12:48 wahanui this one is cool as long as someone *wants* acknowledgement 12:48 petter this one? 12:48 petter http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha 12:48 petter Which mailing list? 12:48 petter hm, that is strange 12:45 grex anyone of you connected to the maillinglist administration? It's really strange that i cannot post sometimes. 12:45 grex thank you. 12:45 grex yes it looks fine that way, seems to work. then i leave it this way, not touching the FK. 12:41 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 17.3°C (9:40 AM ART on March 14, 2014). Conditions: Heavy Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1006 hPa (Rising). 12:41 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 12:41 tcohen maybe you could share something about your setup 12:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4397 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , display problems (umlauts, ß) with scan index in advanced search 12:41 tcohen cait: i cannot seem to reproduce the breakage you mentioned on bug 4397, and I also happen to be able to reproduce the bug and confirm the fix works on several scenarios 12:40 petter So if you can drop your issues table first, that should resolve it. 12:40 petter I think its because you have issues (checkin/checkouts) on the records you want to delete 12:40 petter It means MySQL doesnt corrupt your database 12:40 petter the errors you get is a good thing 12:39 petter yea, I would not recommend turning of foreign key constrains 12:39 grex thank you i'll read through. seems the issues table deleting would also make it. 12:39 tcohen morning 12:36 pianohacker grex: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15501673/how-to-temporarily-disable-a-foreign-key-constraint-in-mysql 12:35 pianohacker woops 12:35 pianohacker >>>>>>> d7ba985... Remove two small bugs 12:35 pianohacker $template->param( shibbolethAuthentication => $shibbolethAuthentication); 12:35 pianohacker my $shibbolethAuthentication = C4::Context->config('useshibboleth'); 12:35 pianohacker grex: ======= 12:35 grex ah that would be not so fine. i like to try to circumvent that 12:34 petter If you dont wanna keep any of your data, maybe its better & less risky to just koha-create a new instance 12:34 petter Maybe there are other constrains too, I don't fully know all the releationships 12:34 petter Ah, so you have to "delete from issues" first 12:33 grex ERROR 1451 (23000): Cannot delete or update a parent row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha_rls-sachsen`.`issues`, CONSTRAINT `issues_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`itemnumber`) REFERENCES `items` (`itemnumber`) ON UPDATE CASCADE 12:33 grex mh but this ends in the same issue: 12:33 petter You can also disable foreign key constraints before truncating tables, but I would recommend against it 12:32 pianohacker (that's a really odd mysql limitatin) 12:29 pianohacker good idea 12:29 petter grex: try "delete from items", "delete from biblioitems" & "delete from biblio" at the MySQL prompt instead 12:26 grex $dbh->do("truncate biblio"); $dbh->do("truncate biblioitems"); $dbh->do("truncate items"); 12:26 grex so it's this: 12:26 grex 115, 116 and 117 12:25 grex sure 12:23 pianohacker grex_: do you have a line number for that error? 12:20 grex any help would be great. thank you all. 12:20 grex error. so something is locked or similar, but i have no clue "where" to look. 12:20 grex foreign key constraint 12:20 grex i get the DBD::mysql::db do failed: Cannot truncate a table referenced in a 12:19 grex but after "deleting biblios" 12:19 grex ... need to reimport some changed marc files from scratch. 12:19 grex i tried the ./bulkmarcimport -b -d thing to reset the catalogues. 12:19 grex ok, since i'm not able again to send emails to the list, i try to ask here about my problem. 12:17 oleonard Hi #koha 11:30 magnuse_ bag: HI 11:24 cait dpavlin: I had it that i could only not access some websites... but others still worked 11:20 bag I see that too dpavlin 11:20 dpavlin nop, I can type into irc :-) 11:20 dpavlin fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer 11:20 cait maybe wifi again? 11:20 dpavlin doesn't work for me or Zeno 11:20 cait it's really slow but it opens after awhile 11:19 cait also trying 11:19 bag dpavlin: looks perfectly fine to me 11:18 cait uhoh 11:18 bag hmm let me check dpavlin 11:17 dpavlin from Marseille hackfest at least :-\ 11:17 dpavlin git.koha-community.org is down? 11:01 francharb hello all 09:45 ashimema and the utf8 debate is in full swing 09:45 ashimema ready, set... go 09:40 grex like last time i was writing about that, but 15 minutes later the message appeared, but now it's more than 12 hours, something is strange with mailing list and me ^ ^ 09:39 grex it happened again, i sent an email to the list and it never appeared on the list. 09:39 grex hi. 09:30 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 09:30 cait @later tell tcohen ping me about bug 4397 please? I can't reproduce the problem right now :( 08:59 cait hmmm 08:49 magnuse bag: HI 08:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4397 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , display problems (umlauts, ß) with scan index in advanced search 08:47 cait On bug 4397 now -one line change making all the difference :) 08:47 cait tcohen++ 08:40 fridolin hie all 08:38 wahanui que tal, bag 08:38 bag magnuse: HI 08:36 magnuse bag: HI 08:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9366 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , On cataloguing each user can easily display tags or not 08:27 cait going to work on bug 9366 now 08:23 paxed cait: ugh. 08:21 cait paxed: I thik there are no subpermissions to borrowers currently, so if you can edit/add you can also delete 08:20 cait paxed: only with jQuery right now, but there is a patch proposed to make that configurable 08:20 cait dpavlin++ :) 08:19 cait morning bag - how is Rome? :) 08:15 wahanui what's up, sophie_m 08:15 sophie_m hello 08:12 wahanui i guess morning is a state of cat 08:12 bag morning 08:10 paxed is there any way to limit patron deletion access rights only to some staff members? 08:07 pianohacker woke up a bit late but on my way soon 08:07 pianohacker good morning 08:06 magnuse yeah... 08:05 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 14, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 29.30 in 992 hPa (Steady). 08:05 magnuse @wunder boo 08:05 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 7.1°C (9:05 AM CET on March 14, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Falling). 08:05 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:05 * magnuse waves 08:00 dpavlin today we will work on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Handling_UTF8_in_development submitting patches to get Koha code in line with recommendations there 08:00 paxed can i remove languages from the adv search language limit selection? 07:57 Joubu hi 07:48 reiveune hello 07:43 wahanui hey, jajm 07:43 jajm hello 07:23 cait not so far 06:57 JesseM did you hike to the Cathedral 06:56 cait we went to a nice place too 06:56 cait :) 06:56 JesseM beautiful. had some good pizza lastnight 06:55 cait JesseM: how is Rome? :) 06:55 cait bonjour #koha 04:56 dcook Thanks again, lol </rant> 04:56 dcook Err Perl brain 04:56 dcook PHP blurring into the brain.. 04:55 dcook Or I guess Perl doesn't let you use false anyway.. 04:54 dcook Because $foo == 0 would always be the equivalent of $foo == false? 04:54 dcook From what I read, 0 has to be treated as a string? 04:54 dcook I thought that I'd tried that but I must've tried something else instead. 04:53 dcook gmcharlt: Thanks :). jcamins eventually pointed that out to me as well. 04:52 gmcharlt dcook: $foo eq '0' 04:27 mtompset Have a great day, #koha dcook kathryn wajasu eythian. 04:26 mtompset Well, signed a couple things off. Explained a couple things. I think I got some productivity in. :) 04:12 mtompset GetMarcNotes? 04:11 dcook ... 04:11 mtompset which sub? 04:11 dcook I rather not edit the sub to introduce another argument, but that's what I did. 04:11 dcook That's what I ended up doing. 04:11 dcook Yes, yes they do. 04:10 mtompset but those .pl programs know if they are intranet or opac. ;) 04:05 dcook basket and virtualshelves are places it should probably be hidden still since they're used for transmission... 04:05 dcook In all the places that use GetMarcNotes, catalogue/detail.pl really is the only time that we should be able to see otherwise private notes 04:04 dcook Aha. Found a solution. 03:56 mtompset dcook: What are you trying to do now? 03:53 mtompset For the most part, the perl code calling the method in a module would pass the parameter. 03:49 mtompset depend on which perl module and where. ;) 03:47 dcook Which doesn't actually make sense... 03:47 dcook From a code point of view, preferably whilst in a Perl module. 03:47 dcook Does anyone have any tricks for knowing then they're in the opac or in the staff client? 03:46 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 03:46 mtompset @later tell pianohacker bug 11762 you forgot to mark as signed off. :P 03:20 kathryn seeya all :) 03:19 wajasu in france? 03:19 kathryn yeah rangi tells me I can ask wahanui to forget :) 03:19 mtompset Okay, wahanui does remember. :) 03:19 wahanui kathryn is on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ofqX3S0SPDo/UGIT5sSfE6I/AAAAAAAATng/bQYU5Chf6Qc/s720/ROSS9901.JPG 03:19 mtompset kathryn? 03:17 wajasu i can tell now that most everything is named/driven from zebra and MARC:: 03:16 wajasu i understand the code now. but its quite misleading. not intuitive. 03:16 wajasu well. 03:16 mtompset Is your mind blown yet, wajasu? ;) 03:15 wajasu oh 03:15 mtompset It's about INDICATORS. 03:14 mtompset wajasu: This isn't about TAGS. 03:14 wajasu i'm working a patch right now for hidden to hide biblios if all items hidden. if it works, it can extend to other tags. 03:14 dcook Imma have some lunch 03:14 * mtompset frowns at wahanui. 03:14 kathryn hiyas :) 03:14 dcook yo kathryn 03:14 mtompset kathryn! ;) 03:14 dcook That's from the MARC spec 03:14 kathryn hi everyone :) 03:14 mtompset And that's from definition... :) 03:14 kathryn are you using wahanui as you image catalogue, eythian ?! 03:13 dcook "Whether the contents of the field are private or not. The state of being private includes information that institutions do not want to display to the public because it is sensitive or restricted." 03:13 mtompset But private doesn't mean hidden. There may be private information you wish to show. ;) 03:12 dcook Always private 03:12 dcook Well, in this case, it's personal information 03:12 mtompset You might want to syspref it. ;) 03:12 mtompset True... and whether private = hidden. 03:12 dcook I would consider the staff client to be private, while the opac is public 03:12 dcook It depends on what one considers to be "private" 03:12 dcook http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd541.html 03:11 dcook Well, that's debateable 03:10 mtompset Now, is this only in opac? 03:10 dcook Because the staff client would be "private" 03:10 mtompset Oooo... 03:10 dcook But ideally, it would only hide it in the OPAC 03:10 dcook I need to hide the 541 when indicator 1 is set to 0 03:09 dcook Alas, not helpful for my quandry :/ 03:09 mtompset Exactly. :0 03:09 dcook That's cool 03:09 dcook But I see that they must use your filtered version 03:09 dcook My mistake. I thought the Get* subs called the record themselves 03:09 dcook I'm looking at it now 03:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11592 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Passed QA , opac scripts do not respect MARC tag visibility 03:09 mtompset Look at bug 11592. 03:08 dcook Actually, as I look at it, I'm hoping I'm wrong 03:08 mtompset But opac/opac-detail does. 03:08 dcook Maybe I'm wrong 03:08 wahanui no it's not. 03:08 mtompset That's right. 03:08 dcook GetMarcSubjects and GetMarcNotes don't use your function, I believe 03:08 dcook Are you sure about that? 03:08 mtompset You don't find the notes if they've been filtered out. ;) 03:07 mtompset GetFilteredOpacBiblio. 03:07 mtompset I wrote a function called GetFilteredBiblio. 03:06 mtompset I filter out the biblio? I think. 03:04 dcook It wouldn't honour the frameworks either 03:04 dcook How so? 03:04 mtompset Didn't need to touch it alot. :) 03:03 dcook A little bit :p 03:03 mtompset I touched GetMarcSubjects. ;) 03:02 mtompset 11592. 03:01 mtompset that was... 03:01 mtompset Oh wait.... no... 03:01 mtompset Yes, I believe that is 10589, 10895, and 10900. 03:01 dcook Weren't you working on honouring the visibility from the frameworks? 03:01 mtompset Why would I have touched it? 03:00 mtompset That's why I actually did it for the News stuffs -- 7567. :) 03:00 dcook I was hoping that you had fixed this :p 03:00 mtompset Been there, done that. :) 03:00 dcook mtompset: More a relation to "I wish that I had time to re-write things" 02:59 dcook eythian: I had forgotten about that photo 02:59 mtompset blerg? Any relation to zerg? 02:59 dcook lol 02:59 dcook Well, maybe not worse and worse. Just...blerg. 02:59 mtompset It looks far more equestrian in nature. 02:59 dcook Oh man, GetMarcNotes just seems worse and worse.. 02:58 eythian_ It's rangi and Kathryn at a library conference. 02:57 mtompset Greetings, eythian, eythian_. :) 02:56 mtompset what is that a photo of?! 02:49 wahanui i think kathryn is on the left of https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ofqX3S0SPDo/UGIT5sSfE6I/AAAAAAAATng/bQYU5Chf6Qc/s720/ROSS9901.JPG 02:49 eythian_ wahanui: kathryn 02:47 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 02:31 dcook Blarg. It won't work that well anyway... 02:30 dcook Nope...not that either 02:26 dcook Which...probably does bring me back to defined(0)? 02:26 dcook It seems to evaluate to true when the actual value is either undef or 0 02:25 dcook I am so confused... 02:23 dcook Hmm, that's not good.. 02:22 dcook I suppose I can just try it out 02:20 dcook What I really want is just to know if there is a value of 0 02:19 eythian I don't know if that applies to indicators though 02:19 eythian if you really want defined, then you want defined() 02:19 eythian it is 02:16 dcook I'm trying to recall if a string with a value of 0 is still evaluated as false.. 02:15 dcook If a first indicator were 0, how would one check for 0 rather than for false? 02:14 dcook Or maybe it's more of a Perl question.. 02:14 dcook gmcharlt: Around for a quick MARC::Field question? 01:50 dcook That might be all. Not sure what impact that has on checkouts and other stuff when using SIP 01:50 dcook Hmm, it looks like maybe it was saying "this patron is valid" even when they're expired 01:48 dcook Alas, I can't recall :/. But I seem to remember that we were having that issue. 01:45 eythian It runs it past C4::Circulation::CanBookBeIssued. That should flag up the borrower being expired, except that probably actually happens earlier in the regular circulation process (but not the SIP one.) 01:44 * dcook whistles 01:44 dcook Worth looking at if you're working on SIP though 01:44 dcook We did a local fix but I can't remember if it was based on a community fix or not.. 01:44 dcook I think it might work for expired patrons too 01:42 eythian cool 01:42 rangi i think just fix that 01:42 eythian It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to have "here's a limit, except it's ignored in this arbitrary case." 01:41 eythian do you reckon it'd be OK to just fix that (it seems like a bug), or should it require a syspref? 01:41 eythian rangi: so currently SIP doesn't block issues if fines are too high && staff overrides are possible. 01:20 eythian dig -t NAPTR +short eff.org | sort 01:19 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 01:18 rangi @later tell pianohacker ill just leave this here for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpzGu9Yp6Y 01:17 eythian I have a slow startup on my system too, not sure if it's Koha::Database or Catmandu or what though, and haven't looked. 01:03 dcook Thanks for the link, rangi. That's exactly what I need at the moment :D. 01:03 pianohacker all right, night all 01:00 rangi yeah 01:00 pianohacker even if it's just my machine being weird probably still worth investigating 01:00 pianohacker sweet, thanks rangi 00:59 rangi http://schema.koha-community.org/ <-- updated (just as an aside) 00:59 rangi thanks for the heads up, ill do some more investimigating 00:59 rangi right 00:59 pianohacker rangi: It all tails off of the load_namespaces in Koha::Schema, couldn't find any particular culprit 00:58 rangi ill have to investigate that a bit, it shouldnt take that long .. where its getting stuck? 00:57 pianohacker It's super basic right now; I can send you the NYTprof results if you want 00:57 pianohacker yeah, that was my thought 00:57 rangi hmm, that doesnt seem right 00:55 pianohacker rangi: (pretty much) 00:55 pianohacker rangi: the reason I poke you is because I'm just working on a new script that uses Koha::Database, and just 'use Koha::Database;' takes 1.5 seconds on an SSD 00:55 rangi calm after the storm? :) 00:54 pianohacker yeah, need to get to bed but enjoying a bit of peace 00:54 wizzyrea it is not so reasonable if you are in france though ;) 00:53 rangi yep, its 1.53pm 00:53 pianohacker rangi: it a reasonable time where you are? have lost track of timezones 00:52 rangi am now 00:51 pianohacker rangi: around? 00:30 gmcharlt no, I am merely reminded ;) 00:29 dcook That's cause you're awesome, gmcharlt ;) 00:29 * gmcharlt will announce a feature freeze date in the next couple days 00:27 dcook Hmm.. 00:27 wahanui feature freeze is 3 October 2013 00:27 dcook feature freeze? 00:26 dcook May 22 isn't super soon though.. 00:25 dcook Or rather, it will 00:25 dcook 3.16 already has a bunch of my "customizations" in it... 00:25 dcook Debating whether I should do a custom version of 3.14 or 3.16 00:25 rangi yep may 22 00:24 dcook May I suppose 00:23 dcook 3.16? 00:23 dcook Hmm 00:23 wahanui i think release is the 22nd nz time every month 00:23 dcook release? 00:01 dcook I guess that's...handy. 00:00 dcook Hmm, that moment when you thought you removed your code from your test Koha and see it there waiting for you in the morning.