Time Nick Message 21:15 wajasu ok. 21:14 * oleonard waves goodbye to wizzyrea, and everyone 21:14 wahanui i think oleonard is not really here. He said so. He did! 21:14 wizzyrea heya oleonard 21:14 cait sorry, busy with something else right now 21:13 cait I think my problem was not relatd to the tcount 21:11 wajasu or just forget about withdrawn for now. 21:11 wajasu cait: i subtracted the lostitemscount from total to get the results count correct. are withdrawn items hidden from the results? and should i adjust for that as well? 21:05 * oleonard waves to wizzyrea 21:03 wizzyrea oh cool 21:02 wajasu he was. i was signing off his work. i just made a followup patch in my local repo to get the result count correct. so someone will have sign that one off. 21:00 wizzyrea wajasu: you might check with mtompset I think he was working on that. 20:52 cait right, that would be my notes then ;) 20:52 wajasu trying to address comment #19 findings 20:51 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11489 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , OPAC search results in 404 error when the only search result is supressed 20:51 cait wajasu: items.lost - and you can take a look at the koha-2-marc-mappings 20:51 wajasu dealing with bug 11489 20:50 wajasu looking in opac-search.pl 20:50 wajasu where is the lost item status kept inthe biblio? in an item? 9?? for MARC21. if we hidelostitems in results and want to adjust the total results count where should I test against? 20:49 gmcharlt rhcl: that's fine 20:48 wajasu i could kick off my koha vmbuilder script later. just need to tweek the debian dist and repos, and see how it goes. 20:45 rhcl deb on sun x86 OK? 20:43 rhcl oh, that's pretty trivial 20:43 gmcharlt i.e, if possible, a node that has the testing release of Debian on it 20:43 gmcharlt no, https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ 20:43 rhcl https://github.com/futuresimple/jessie ??? 20:43 pianohacker given is experimental at line everything 20:42 gmcharlt as I know that there is some breakage (induced? exposed?) by Perl 5.18 20:41 gmcharlt rhcl: actually, a Debian testing (Jessie) node would be great 20:41 huginn` rhcl: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 3 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> khall: *thud* 20:41 rhcl @seen gmcharlt 20:41 rhcl ack 20:41 rangi hmm, i think we are ok at the moment, but id check with gmcharlt 20:40 rhcl any thoughts on the need for another Jenkins node? 20:40 rhcl hey rangi 20:40 rangi hi rhcl 20:10 huginn` rhcl: rangi was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 7 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <rangi> http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/2014/02/easy-fixtures-with-dbix-class.html 20:10 rhcl @seen rangi 19:35 wahanui it has been said that cat is http://www.nyan.cat/ 19:35 cait cat? 19:33 thanhbkdn92 123123 19:33 thanhbkdn92 eqweqwe 19:33 thanhbkdn92 asdasd 19:13 cait hmm 19:12 tcohen and guess also brazil 19:12 tcohen i've been said the whole week in ecuador 19:11 tcohen 2 days in argentina 19:11 magnuse ? 19:11 magnuse ooh, carnival holiday! how long is that, tcohen 19:08 cait :) 19:08 cait magnuse: thx for the meeting reminder 19:07 tcohen we're on carnival holiday still 19:07 tcohen hi cait 19:07 cait hola tcohen :) 18:50 tcohen Hallo magnuse 18:49 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 18:30 * magnuse adds it to the agenda 18:24 magnuse hm, is it time to start thinking about kohacon15 yet? 18:23 magnuse ooh, meeting in 23 hours 37 minutes 18:19 rhcl yea, I'll ask again later 18:18 cait rhcl: maybe wait for rangi? he might have an idea 18:12 rhcl any community thoughts on the need for another Jenkins node? 18:04 wahanui nope is http://i.imgur.com/flFgB.gif 18:04 druthb nope? 18:04 wahanui okay, druthb. 18:04 druthb nope is also http://i.imgur.com/flFgB.gif 18:02 talljoy lol 18:02 druthb nope! 18:02 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. 18:02 magnuse druthb! 18:02 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. 18:02 druthb magnuse! 18:02 talljoy the cat is funny too! 18:02 magnuse nope! 18:02 wahanui nope is http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/nope_girl.gif 18:02 magnuse nope? 18:02 magnuse nope is http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/nope_girl.gif 18:02 magnuse nope? 18:02 magnuse awww... 18:01 druthb http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/Nope.jpg 17:58 talljoy i was wondering where my nope went! 17:58 talljoy i need to keep that one. 17:58 talljoy lol 17:57 druthb talljoy: http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/nope_girl.gif 17:57 magnuse down to 185 bugs need signoff - yay! 17:55 talljoy nope 17:47 reiveune bye 16:56 huginn` rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -2.3°C (10:56 AM CST on March 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 16:56 rhcl @wunder 64507 16:37 gmcharlt khall: *thud* 16:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11817 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Staff client next/previous browse JavaScript interferes with other JS functions 16:37 oleonard Suddenly the next/previous browse bugs are appearing. Bug 11817 16:33 oleonard It's gotta be a conflict with the next/previous browse javascript 16:33 khall lol 16:33 oleonard khall: Party like it's 1999! 16:32 khall I showed a friend how you could middle click a link to open it in a new tab, it blew his mind 16:32 khall bascially, on normal links you can middle-click the mouse or ctrl-click the link to open in a new page 16:31 oleonard Oh wait, yes. I was middle-clicking 16:31 oleonard khall: No, but I might be misunderstanding the problem 16:31 edveal thanks khall. you answers before I could. LOL 16:31 khall no custom js. Have you been able to reproduce? 16:30 khall oleonard: I did, and was able to confirm the bug 16:30 khall np! The discussion was whether to remove the pref or not ; ) 16:30 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11890 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Control-Click/Command-Click to open a link in a new tab not consistently working 16:30 oleonard edveal: Did you test Bug 11890 in multiple browsers and check that there is no custom JS involved? 16:30 cait got a bit confused :) 16:30 cait khall: sorry for missing the pref - from the discussion i thought it was missing 16:30 khall g'day cait! 16:30 * cait waves at khall 16:29 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Allow renewal of item with unfilled holds if other available items can fill those holds 16:29 khall gmcharlt: you may want to weigh in on bug 11634, due to YASP ; ) 16:16 wajasu would they want roles/permissions for who can schedule, etc. 16:15 wajasu i think it will conflict with security these days. if its broke, should we disable or hide it? or do a rewrite. poll a table and such. and if we rewrite. 16:12 gmcharlt which made it even sillier at the time 16:12 gmcharlt ironically, back when the Schedule::At implementation was pushed, there was actually more of a desire for Windows support for Koha server 16:11 gmcharlt I don't think anybody would, nowaways 16:10 jcamins For what it's worth, when I was RM I would not have considered a patch making the scheduler work as currently designed. 16:07 wajasu i can patch it to get it working, and a scheduler rewrite can be done as a separate effort, as galen's comment mentioned. 16:05 cait well making it wrk the way it's implemented now 16:05 wajasu i can see that. 16:05 cait wajasu: iirc there were security concerns about making it work (permissions etc) 16:05 wajasu ahh. found the problem. i added www-data, which was defined in /etc/apache2/envvars (APACHE_RUN_USER) to the /etc/at.allow and no more permission problem. 16:04 cait wajasu: maybe check bugzilla, there are old scheduler bugs with lots of discussion 15:54 wajasu ok. 15:53 jcamins wajasu: it depends what mpm you are using, but if you're using itk (as is the default), it's specified in the Apache config file. 15:52 wajasu for staff client does anyone know the user that the apache daemon runs the web app code as? is that in koha-httpd.conf or related config? 15:50 wajasu i was laying with the task scheduler which doesn't seem to work for me, and got it tweaked enough for it to run by my manual commandline launch. but i think i need to figure out te user/permissions that the apache server runs atq. 15:48 intx6x thanks (: 15:48 intx6x :) okay i will try 15:47 cait for packages you can use koha-translate, for a standard installation something like cd misc/translator, perl translate install es-ES 15:47 cait do what you did when you installed Spanish the first time 15:46 intx6x yes the error occurred after update 15:46 cait you have to recreate your templates 15:46 cait after every koha update 15:46 intx6x yes spanish 15:45 cait intx6x: are yo using translated templates? did you update your koha instance? 15:44 intx6x how i can fix this error KohaAuthorisedValues: plugin not found at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 132. ;( 15:44 intx6x hi :)? anyone 15:43 wajasu the acount tab has a link. so i just thought maybe the "pay fines" tab could have one added too instead of adding every desired field besides callnumber. 15:42 cait i think some of the charges do that, I would stick with what is consistent 15:42 cait i can't take a closer look at the bug right now 15:41 wajasu ok. So should i add a "View Item" link? 15:41 gmcharlt +1 15:40 cait wajasu: I think having too much information in the description wouldn't make sense - better have less and a link to the item 15:39 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11573 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , change description of charges in account fines 15:39 wajasu when i was doing a followup patch for bug 11573, i wondered what accession numbers were. and where they are stored in the schema/biblio/item? so i did not add it to the fine description, but only the callnumber 15:38 cait thx for explaining, it sure sounds interesting :) 15:38 cait :) 15:37 nlegrand dummy seems to be the right english translation for "fantôme" :) 15:36 nlegrand :) 15:36 nlegrand a dummy 15:35 nlegrand we put something in the stack at the book place when we take the book 15:35 nlegrand ouch, bad translation :) 15:35 cait the ghost? :) 15:35 nlegrand cait: actually we do, rare books stack requests are separated from the others 15:34 nlegrand we print something for the ghost, and something to deliver to the patron 15:34 cait here the biggest libraries have multiple printers/desks printing and often it's selected by callnumber.... which complicates things 15:33 nlegrand yep 15:33 cait but you print them as well :) 15:33 nlegrand we have a desk that prints all stack requests 15:33 cait i think Germany and France are often quite similar - we also have inventory/accession numbers for example 15:33 cait nlegrand: sounds very familiar so far :) 15:32 cait do you have prnters in the closed stacks? for the people who pull the items? 15:32 nlegrand then we deliver the books, which can be consulted in the library or issued if possible 15:32 cait aaah 15:32 nlegrand with their koha accounts from the OPAC 15:31 nlegrand we have close stacks too, it's permit patrons to requests a book in stacks 15:30 cait we got libraries with closed stacks here, so that makes me curious :) 15:29 cait can you tell somethiing about what it does? 15:29 cait the module - stacks 15:28 nlegrand ^^ 15:27 cait nlegrand++ :) 15:23 nlegrand the example module I had trouble with and shown as a profiling example in the wiki page I mean 15:23 nlegrand and yes, the module is a module not yet distributed by the BULAC, I hope we will in the next months 15:22 nlegrand ok, here is something about profiling with Devel::NYTProf: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Profiling_with_Devel::NYTProf hope my english is not to broken and this will be useful :) 14:28 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update offline circulation docs 14:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #24: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/24/ 14:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #24 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:25 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update offline circulation docs 14:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #451: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/451/ 14:25 jenkins_koha Starting build #451 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 14:22 smrt hi i was just wondering if there was anyway to stop the guarantor address from overwriting the patron address. i've googled and googled and searched through the admin options but i can't seem to find anything that will stop that from happening 13:57 mayank I am importing records in koha from excel file. I have converted data into marc format. While importing records in koha if I select "Check for embeded item recod data" as Yes then it create mulitple items for book and save bar code. If I select it to No then no bar code is imported for the book. I only have one line per iteam. What should I do to have one iteam and bar code assigned to book? Sample data is available at http://ampletrails.com/koha_data 13:23 magnuse cordoba++ 13:18 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 21.8°C (10:15 AM ART on March 04, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 13:18 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 13:13 huginn` cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (2:00 PM CET on March 04, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.67 in 1005 hPa (Rising). 13:13 cait @wunder Konstanz 13:12 huginn` jwagner: The current temperature in McKnew, Burtonsville, Maryland is -10.2°C (8:05 AM EST on March 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.44 in 1031 hPa (Steady). 13:12 jwagner @wunder 20707 13:09 francharb nevermind 13:09 * oleonard shakes his fist at winter 13:09 huginn` francharb: Error: No such location could be found. 13:09 francharb @wunder montreal 13:09 huginn` francharb: Error: No such location could be found. 13:09 francharb @wunder montreal, qc 13:08 huginn` oleonard: The current temperature in Windy Ridge, Athens, Ohio is -12.7°C (8:08 AM EST on March 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -21.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Rising). 13:08 oleonard @wunder 45701 13:05 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (1:50 PM CET on March 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 13:05 magnuse @wunder boo 13:05 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 11.6°C (2:05 PM CET on March 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 18%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 13:05 magnuse @wunder marseille 13:04 magnuse hiya francharb 13:03 francharb hello 12:58 * magnuse waves to oleonard 12:58 magnuse cait: yeah, right ;-) 12:54 cait hi oleonard :) 12:53 oleonard Hi #koha 12:50 cait the keyboard is totally normal.... :) 12:49 magnuse mainly because the keyboard of the weird german placing of the letters on the keyboard ;-) - but thanks for letting me borrow it anyways! :-) 12:45 cait magnuse: oh :( 12:38 * magnuse makes a note of bringing a bootable usb to the hackfest, just in case... 12:37 magnuse cait: yeah, i probably did, but i was not very productive, i think... 12:11 cait i think magnuse used an ssh client on my tablet when his laptop made problems 12:10 cait ah 12:09 ashimema though if they made sourcetree for linux.. i'de give that a go 12:09 ashimema I just use command line on the desktop at home.. 12:09 ashimema only on android.. I havent rooted the tablet.. so finding a git client at all is.. challenging. 12:07 cait you are using a graphical git thing? 12:00 ashimema though I wish it was using a faster library.. JGit is just slow... libgit2 based apps always seem faster to me. 12:00 ashimema SGit for android has been a bit of a revelation 11:59 ashimema I have to admit.. the tablet isn't perfect.. but actually it's surprisingly capable and improving all the time. 11:59 ashimema Desktop for main work, Tablet for remote work and a phone 11:59 ashimema lol.. I don't actually own a laptop at the moment. 11:58 cait ah so you are bringing the tablet? saving room in the hand luggage? 11:58 ashimema indeed.. I've spent some of today improving my dev workflow (on the tablet ) 11:58 ashimema ack.. me too 11:57 cait the countdown is running :) 11:57 ashimema though that'll have to be an exercise left to the experimenter ;) 11:57 cait hey ashimema :) 11:57 ashimema alex_, cait is correct, those tabs are not 'meant' to be edited... though if your a jQuery wiz you can probably do it.. 11:57 cait ... and he is already gone and I am talking to noone *sigh* 11:56 cait and then it will be displayed as a link and you can style it using CSS to pop out a bit more 11:56 cait a download link would be 856 I think 11:56 cait are you using MARC21 or UNIMARC? 11:56 cait alex_a: the tabs are for various functions and can not be customized 11:26 mayank alex_: post your question directly 11:15 alex_ can u help me? 11:15 alex_ :) 11:14 wahanui bidet, alex_ 11:14 alex_ hi 11:08 alex_ In detail item page, there is some tabs (holding, comments,... ). HOw can i add one more tab like "download link", which shows MARC 300_6 field. (I have made this field clickable) 11:04 alex_ i have a question about Koha, if u are free, please help! 11:02 alex_ Hi every one 10:00 magnuse hiya nlegrand 09:55 nlegrand hey #koha 08:59 cait at work :) 08:54 * magnuse wonders where cait is today 08:53 cait hi #koha 08:51 cait hi Oak and magnuse :) 08:50 magnuse kia ora cait! 08:48 Oak morning cait 08:47 wahanui germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg 08:47 huginn` GERMS!!!! 08:19 magnuse hiya Joubu 08:17 Oak hello Joubu 08:15 Joubu hello 08:13 magnuse my pleasure! 08:12 Oak Thank you! 08:12 Oak got it. 08:12 Oak Aha! 08:12 magnuse and are the items you are looking at on loan or not? 08:12 magnuse Oak: what is AllowOnShelfHolds set to? 08:08 Oak question: RequestOnOpac is set to "Allow", but I don't see "Place Hold" when viewing an individual title. Just "Print", "Add to your Cart" etc. I'm on 3.14.04. 08:06 * Oak waves 07:50 sophie_m hello magnuse 07:48 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 04, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). 07:48 magnuse @wunder boo 07:48 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 6.1°C (8:48 AM CET on March 04, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). 07:48 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:48 * magnuse waves 07:40 reiveune hello 05:59 cait hi dcook 05:38 dcook hi cait :) 05:38 dcook eythian: Was cait the storm? :p 05:20 cait hi #koha 05:02 * eythian goes before the storm gets here. 05:00 eythian bag: yo, if you check out the elastic_search branch now, there's a working indexer. 04:59 dcook That's dancing btw... 04:59 dcook /o/ \o\ /o/ 04:59 dcook Or as I started typing... 04:59 dcook \o/ 04:58 eythian actually, I'll need to add item information into it at some stage too, but not immediately. 04:57 eythian OK, my indexer seems to be working fine now, which is nice. The next step is starting to implement the browse feature, which is the whole point of this. That can start tomorrow though. 04:52 eythian :) 04:51 dcook No pressure ;) 04:51 dcook rangi++ 04:51 dcook eythian++ 04:49 eythian yeah, I think it'll be quite nice once we get a complete mapping etc set up. Also a lot more forgiving than zebra. 04:47 mtj i am pretty excited about Koha running with ES 04:35 eythian yeah, exactly. 04:34 mtj a both master situ. sounds non-good :) 04:31 eythian redundancy, but there are bad situations that can happen with two. i.e. where they get separated and go full split-brain thinking they're both master. If you have three or more, then this doesn't happen. 04:30 dcook Dang...that sounds awesome, eythian 04:30 mtj i thought 2 max... 04:30 mtj hmm, why 3? 04:29 eythian keeping in mind that a production elasticsearch system pretty much must have three servers for reliability. 04:28 mtj cool, thats way less than i expected 04:27 eythian 23835 elastics 20 0 2435m 398m 46m S 1 20.9 13:56.65 java 04:27 eythian PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 04:27 eythian I dunno really, the server I'm using it on has 2GB and the ES process is using 21% of that, but I haven't attempted to tune it. I could give the process more ram and it'd probably be a bit faster. 04:26 mtj any rough idea? 04:26 mtj hey eythian, whats the minimum ram needed for an ES server? 04:25 mtj aah, ok 04:24 eythian well, it seems that the export process of rebuild_zebra is a big part of the slowdown. This doesn't really need that step. 04:24 eythian I'm not sure how fast zebra is, but not that fast I suspect. 04:24 eythian yeah. 04:24 mtj 420ish records a second 04:23 mtj impressive stats 04:22 eythian Looks like I could roughly double its speed with some careful multithreading, too. Another time though... 04:18 eythian also some record rewriting going on to sanitise things (the test database I'm using has some ugly/wrong data in it, which makes it a good test case.) 04:16 eythian (remote as in, elsewhere on our network) 04:16 eythian that's going to a remote es server. 04:16 eythian sys 0m4.284s 04:16 eythian user 0m22.264s 04:16 eythian real 0m50.518s 04:16 eythian 21485 records indexed. 04:16 mtj eythian, ooh that sounds sweet 04:15 eythian while I don't have it completely finished yet, indexing on elasticsearch is hella fast. 03:41 * mtompset waves bye to eythian dcook mtj papa, etc. :) 03:41 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 02:32 eythian You need to make it so that all the fields for the item go into the same 952. 02:32 eythian mayank: you're probably making a new 952 for each item entry, and each 952 will become its own item. 02:14 mayank I am importing records in koha from excel file. I have converted data into marc format. While importing records in koha if I select "Check for embeded item recod data" as Yes then it create mulitple items for book and save bar code. If I select it to No then no bar code is imported for the book. I only have one line per iteam. What should I do to have one iteam and bar code assigned to book? 01:40 mtj meh, bummer about diffmerge's license 01:37 mtj will try again sometime, tho 01:37 mtj i couldnt get those 2 to build last nite ... and got too sleepy.. :p 01:36 mtj diffmerge not FOSS, afaict :/ 01:35 dcook There's a few out there. I think Meld is another and Kdiff 01:34 mtj i'm taking a peek at DiffMerge now… looks pretty nice too 01:32 dcook ashimema pointed that one out to me at Kohacon :) 01:30 mtj woo, thanks dcook - i didnt spot vimdiff 01:29 dcook Don't know about FOSS, but I use vimdiff or Winmerge (depending on whether I'm on Linux or Windows) 01:29 mtj i've just started looking for one... :) 01:28 mtj hey #koha, does anyone here use an awesome FOSS diff-ing tool? 00:20 dcook lol 00:18 eythian well, out with it then! 00:16 papa I can make a couple of inappropriate statements to get the ball rolling 00:09 dcook Commenting more than complaining :p 00:08 dcook I suppose I should've mentioned I was popping out to the post office then :p