Time Nick Message 22:51 IsaacB It looked like setting needsauthentication=1 on the 404 and other pages would work to prevent the interface from being shown, but it seemed 404.pl doesn't accept login, so the login box it shows is broken. 22:50 eythian bye cait 22:50 cait you too 22:50 cait thx 22:49 dcook And a good weekend! 22:49 dcook And a good sleep 22:49 dcook Well, have a good trip! 22:49 dcook :o 22:49 cait travelling tomorrow :) 22:49 cait :) 22:49 dcook See you in the morning ;) 22:49 dcook night cait 22:49 cait good night all 22:48 eythian hmm, it is a borderline one, but probably minor enough that it can go through the regular process. 22:45 dcook Nice catch though. 22:43 IsaacB that's what I figured 22:43 wizzyrea doesn't seem like it's the sort of thing that needs ultimate secrecy to me. 22:40 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11612 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 404 error page for Intranet may leak information 22:40 IsaacB Could someone check if bug 11612 should be assigned to product koha-security? It appears to be, albeit a minor one, a security concern 22:37 talljoy ck 22:34 francharb bye all 21:53 mveron Oh it's late. Good night #koha 21:37 cait morning eythian 21:36 eythian hi 21:11 pianohacker rangi: ooh good point. Will definitely recommend to anyone not using Vim 21:11 rangi pianohacker: http://brackets.io/ <-- might be useful for your future :) 21:06 oleonard Bye #koha 20:37 wajasu when i was testing some fines code, I noticed some code updated an existing accountline accounttype from FU to F. maybe when making apayment or writeoff, is that a known hack? don't know why it would need to be changed, unless its an accrual hack. 20:30 oleonard My librarians were just asking for an automated way of sending a message to the patron: "Your hold was cancelled because you didn't pick it up" 20:30 wizzyrea but that's ideal 20:30 wizzyrea ideally, the borrower who placed the reserve should get an email "this reserve was removed because <item was damaged>" or "Something happened at the library, contact them for your options" 20:29 wizzyrea no, that's what they should do. They should order a replacement or they should delete the reserves. 20:29 wizzyrea if you choose "no, I don't want to delete all reserves" the items aren't removed. In that case, either the library should order a replacement and make an on-order item 20:28 gmcharlt (or not cancel them, if they know that they'll shortly be ordering replacements) 20:28 gmcharlt but yeah, the librarian should be given the option to cancel teh requests 20:28 gmcharlt if all of the items get damaged, you may have to delete them regardless 20:27 wizzyrea at the very least, librarians should be told that there are reserves, and do you want to also delete the reserves when you delete all items 20:27 wizzyrea oleonard: pretty certain there is no situation in which you should be able to delete all items if there are reserves on a title. 20:21 oleonard What's up Brooke? 20:07 Brooke o/ 19:52 cait that's a long list 19:51 mveron :-) 19:51 mveron http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/?query=mean 19:50 * cait is mean :) 19:50 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7267 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Display accountnumber in PDF 19:50 cait did you see bug 7267? ;) 19:49 mveron cait: Welcome :-) 19:49 cait mveron++ thx 19:40 mtompset gereal, pianohacker? 19:39 cait i think you should not be able to delete the items in the first place 19:39 cait not sure if the bug is at the end 19:39 cait hm 19:38 oleonard ...but no list of existing holds. 19:38 oleonard If you click the holds tab for the title you get a message which says "Cannot place hold: this record has no items attached." 19:38 oleonard Here's a fun bug: Place a hold on a title. Delete all the items from that title. Assuming you don't know who placed the hold, how do you remove it? 19:30 reiveune bye 19:29 * pianohacker is hungry for some gereal now 19:24 cait i think there is no gereal switch 19:20 cait for the itemtypes... or the branch transfer configuration? 19:20 cait you could change the holds settings? 19:19 * cait thinks 19:19 oleonard Is it possible to temporarily remove a branch from consideration for the holds queue? 19:17 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7234 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , koha-common Debian package should include koha-sites.conf 19:17 tcohen gmcharlt: would you agree on the defaults I chose for bug 7234? 19:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11798 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , Problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table 19:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11829 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template variables are undefined 19:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new basket in Acquisitions 19:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11736 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in Koha news templates 19:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11716 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in label manage template 19:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11710 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in cataloging Z39.50 search template 19:07 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11717 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in member templates 19:07 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 11798: fix problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table 19:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11829: fix JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template variables are undefined 19:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11805 - Use validation plugin when creating new basket in Acquisitions 19:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11736 - Use new DataTables include in Koha news templates 19:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11716 - Use new DataTables include in label manage template 19:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11710 - Use new DataTables include in cataloging Z39.50 search template 19:07 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11717 - Use new DataTables include in member templates 19:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1647: SUCCESS in 2 hr 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1647/ 18:46 mtompset Yes, to the non-self-signed cert. And to those who want that, they'll likely have the technical skill to tweak the Apache configuration accordingly. 18:42 gmcharlt wajasu: in general, +1 to moving purely presentation logic to the templates 18:41 gmcharlt the problem is that 99% of the time you'll want a non-self-signed cert 18:41 wajasu was i correct about 11573. any comments. maybe we should yank logic in perl code that builds the viewable description into accountlines up into the template if the context is all there. [% IF accounttype = 'Rent' ... format accordingly. 18:40 gmcharlt actually, yeah, it would be straightforward enough; one could always stuff them under /etc/koha/sites/FOO/ssl 18:40 mtompset Okay, I agree with that. The difficulty becomes not causing the former while attempting the latter, and doing it in a way that doesn't create an insurmountable installation for testing purposes barrier. 18:40 tcohen generating them during instance creation should be straightforward 18:37 cait +1 18:35 gmcharlt that's too strong of a statement, IMO - having the installer go so far as to generate certs is a no-go, but having it nudge people in directions that make for a more secure installation is not beyond the realm of discussion 18:34 mtompset gmcharlt: Yes, I agree. However, dealing with certs is beyond Koha's line of responsibility. 18:33 gmcharlt (admittedly, that opens up the inconvenience of dealing with certs, eiither paid or self-signed, so please consider this comment purely a digression) 18:32 gmcharlt 443 strikes me as an even better default port ;) 18:32 mtompset That is: debconf questions to populate the initial koha-sites.conf 18:32 tcohen i think that belongs to another bug actually 18:32 mtompset I was hoping that eythian had gotten around to his idea. 18:32 tcohen oh :-D 18:32 mtompset I just commented on it. 18:31 tcohen (i.e. packages don't provide a sample koha-sites.conf file, it was filled by jcamins a long time ago) 18:31 tcohen 7234 18:31 mtompset what bug is that, tcohen? 18:30 mtompset 7234? 18:29 tcohen mtompset: have you looked at the bug i mentioned about this very same problem? 18:29 tcohen yes, fixed them already and also adjusted the appendix to match the new options too 18:26 mtompset How goes the kitten rescuing? :) 18:23 cait hi mtompset 18:23 mtompset Greetings, cait. :) 18:14 mtompset Ah, okay... that's fine with me. 18:13 mtompset So, all three uncommented, tcohen? 18:07 cait hi tcohen :) 18:07 tcohen hi cait 18:06 * cait waves 18:01 tcohen i'd prefer USE_MEMCACHED="no" instead of commenting it 18:00 mtompset tcohen: Okay... revised some more. Comments? 17:52 gaetan_B bye! 17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11798 normal, P5 - low, ---, abl, Pushed to Master , Problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table 17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11829 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template variables are undefined 17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use validation plugin when creating new basket in Acquisitions 17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11736 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in Koha news templates 17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11716 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in label manage template 17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11710 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in cataloging Z39.50 search template 17:36 tcohen mtompset: tl;dr, just leave a simple understandable way of setting it 17:36 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11717 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use new DataTables include in member templates 17:36 jenkins_koha * Jacek Ablewicz: Bug 11798: fix problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table 17:36 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11829: fix JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template variables are undefined 17:36 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11805 - Use validation plugin when creating new basket in Acquisitions 17:36 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11736 - Use new DataTables include in Koha news templates 17:36 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11716 - Use new DataTables include in label manage template 17:36 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11710 - Use new DataTables include in cataloging Z39.50 search template 17:36 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 11717 - Use new DataTables include in member templates 17:36 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #366: SUCCESS in 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/366/ 17:34 cait bye all 17:25 mtompset Also, did you notice Appendix A? 17:22 mtompset Could we set the memcache stuff to 'no', and leave them as comments with a statement about setting to yes and using these? 17:19 tcohen mtompset: just made it more generic 17:18 tcohen and notice they need to read :-P 17:17 tcohen i've just attached a patch for 7234, so they'd find a file with different sample configuration 17:17 mtompset Okay, I agree with that. But we shouldn't break the "just cut and paste the blue boxes to get something working" philosophy. ;) 17:16 tcohen OTH I don't care which the example is 17:15 tcohen we need to explain how the URL is built (hence the example desired configuration) 17:15 mtompset Not to mention the comment does say "# Change this to be your domain." ;) 17:14 mtompset (which we know people don't do) 17:14 mtompset But add further explanation around it for those who actually read. 17:14 mtompset I would leave the blue boxes with "bad" examples that generate a working example if they don't think. 17:13 tcohen well, myDNS.com was an unexplained real-life example too :-P 17:12 mtompset I do like the extra text you added. 17:12 mtompset I don't like putting in a real life example, because people will try to use it to get Koha running. 17:12 tcohen so people knows what are those variables for 17:12 tcohen and I also put an real life example 17:12 tcohen there where some variables missing 17:11 tcohen would u take a look at the "initial configuration" section? 17:11 mtompset oh? how so? 17:10 tcohen i've just updated the ubuntu packages wiki 17:10 mtompset Greetings, tcohen! 17:10 tcohen hi mtompset 17:09 mtompset Greetings, #koha 17:03 * cait cheers gmcharlt on :) 16:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #1647 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:39 oleonard It's working now, thanks 16:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #366 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:37 gmcharlt oleonard: to rule out the possiblity that you were colliding with me pushing to master, could yuo try a fetch now? 16:32 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11798: fix problems with column sorting and row visibility in invoices table <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ce0848fe35814f2324a8e3d59b3c04f061a858b> 16:24 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "git config (minus other remotes, branches, etc)" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/144 16:21 gmcharlt hmm - paste your .git/confg, please? 16:20 oleonard gmcharlt: Do you know what that means? 16:20 oleonard Having trouble with git fetch again. "read error: Invalid argument" 16:10 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11829: fix JavaScript error on staff client biblio details pages if template... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=63d7386ed00f73be837a57aeb12d75c6893ca0bd> / Bug 11805 - Use validation plugin when creating new basket in Acquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=cd089028b8c5e8f2b15ed2d41ce79bb37873662d> / Bug 11736 - Use new DataTables include in Koha ne 16:10 cait mveron: there are also bugs linked adding the account number/Kundennummer and edition and publication year 16:09 cait mveron: i have more ideas for improvement, but trying a step by step approach 16:09 cait mveron: thx! 16:00 drojf oh there is a bug for it ^^ 15:58 drojf is there a reason why the koha-remove command doesn't delete the zebra register files? 15:57 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7234 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , koha-common Debian package should include koha-sites.conf 15:57 tcohen jcamins: would you agree on the defaults for bug 7234? 15:57 mveron cait: 11828 looks fine, will sign it off later in the evening 15:56 cait :) 15:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1047 normal, P2, ---, isaacbrodsky, Signed Off , Punctuation in site names breaks Edit/Delete z39.50 server administration 15:53 oleonard When I saw the patch for Bug 1047 I thought 1047 was a typo the number was so small 15:51 cait i had take a quick look, but was not sure how to start a while ago 15:51 cait hm 766 could fall that TT category 15:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=766 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Use of CGI::scrolling_list prevents customization in template 15:49 oleonard Oldest open non-enhancement: Bug 766 15:49 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=444 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , Manual Credits does not support authorised values (Manual invoices do) 15:49 oleonard Oldest open bug: Bug 444 15:46 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded. 15:46 tcohen @later tell eythian I took 7234 after a discussion about that in the koha-es list, using debconf dialogs might belong to a new bug i guess 15:42 cait TT made a lot of things easier 15:42 cait maybe some more are easy now 15:42 cait we should do some looking at old bugs sometime 15:42 cait it's good it's gone, that's the most important 15:41 oleonard I know, and the fix was so simple 15:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=1047 normal, P2, ---, isaacbrodsky, Signed Off , Punctuation in site names breaks Edit/Delete z39.50 server administration 15:41 cait oleonard: the z39.50 was oold :) bug 1047 15:41 cait is it only me or does low bug numbers with patches make you extra happy? :) 15:40 cait mveron: just not so many german testers availalbe :) 15:40 cait mveron: thx - no hurry 15:36 cait but this is the one to start testing with :) 15:36 cait it's a dependency tree 15:35 mveron Ok, I'll have a look... 15:35 cait you can print the same pdf group all the time 15:35 cait once you have a few orders to work with it's quite fast to test 15:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11828 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add German PDF template for orders in acquisitions 15:34 cait bug 11828 15:34 cait 11828 15:34 mveron cait: Why not? :-) 15:34 cait mveron: could I interest you in testing a few patches? :) 15:33 cait but really early morning in nz? 15:33 cait is that possible? 15:33 cait hm seems to happen more often at this time of thed ay 15:31 mveron http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/koha-community.org 15:31 mveron The community website seems to be down... 15:31 mveron Hi #koha 15:27 talljoy y ears ack 14:41 magnuse cool 14:41 oleonard That seems reasonable to me 14:41 magnuse so if i were to give an id to the tab tht says "check in", "checkin_tab" would be a good candidate? or are there other suggestions? 14:40 magnuse ok 14:40 oleonard I would call them tabs, although the ones for check out/check in are not styled like tabs in their off state. 14:39 magnuse hm, what's a good name for the things yu click on to show different tabs? are the things yu click on called tabs? or do they have a separate name? 14:34 huginn` oleonard: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 14:34 wahanui http://xkcd.com/1172/ 14:34 oleonard @quote get 123 14:34 oleonard Wanting to charge your patrons for their own overdue notices is a great #123 example. 14:29 khall np! 14:29 magnuse i thnk i got it, thanks oleonard khall 14:28 magnuse href="#checkin_search" is interpreted as "give focus to the "#checkin_search" div 14:28 magnuse <a href="#checkin_search">Check in</a> 14:28 magnuse ah 14:27 magnuse but what triggers the binding? 14:26 magnuse s/box/field/ 14:26 oleonard Somewhere in the jQueryUI library JS 14:26 magnuse how is my clicking on the "check in" tab bound to the "show the check in box" action? 14:25 oleonard That's right khall 14:25 khall I believe it uses jquery ui tabs, right? 14:25 magnuse not give focus to the check in field 14:25 magnuse when i click on the "check in" tab, i want to be taken to the check in page 14:24 magnuse not sure my phrasing of the question is good... 14:24 oleonard What do you mean magnuse? What are you trying to do? 14:24 magnuse anyone got a clue? oleonard? 14:24 magnuse i thught it was jquery onclick, but it doesn't seem to be 14:23 magnuse hm, trying to figure out what happens when i click on the tabs below the checkin/checkout/patronsearch etc box 14:20 oleonard khall++ 14:18 huginn` rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -10.6°C (8:18 AM CST on February 27, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). 14:18 rhcl @wunder 64507 13:57 huginn` 04Bug 11866: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Staff side course reserves too restrictive 13:57 khall oleonard: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11866 13:50 khall np! 13:50 oleonard Great, thanks! 13:50 khall oleonard: I'm working on a patch right now 13:46 oleonard No 13:46 khall is there a bug filed for this already? 13:45 khall oleonard: that was my thought exactly 13:45 oleonard Patrons can view course reserves in the OPAC. Why shouldn't librarians be able to view them in the staff client? 13:44 khall oleonard: I cannot view course reserves if I have no permissions. Do you think librarians should be able to view courses even if they modify them? 13:39 khall hmm, let me take a look 13:38 oleonard Does that sound right? 13:38 oleonard I think it should be possible for a staff member to view course reserves in the staff client even if they don't have edit/delete/manage permissions 13:38 oleonard I think the permissions for course reserves are a little wonky and I wanted to run it by you 13:37 khall yo 13:37 oleonard khall around? 13:30 matts thx cait for pointing that out and fixing it :) 13:30 cait thx matts :) matts++ 13:18 francharb Hi #koha oleonard 13:17 oleonard Hi #koha 12:43 cait ok :) 12:43 cait oh! 12:42 matts Page is page :) 12:41 wahanui Page is too big? 12:41 cait and Page? 12:41 cait cool 12:41 matts published by => publié par 12:40 matts hey cait, no problem 12:39 cait same for the Page 1/1, Page 1/2 it prints 12:38 cait i could add the translation , but not sure what it shoudl be 12:38 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=20432 < if you look for 'published by' you see it has not been translated 12:37 cait do you have a second? 12:37 cait matts: :) 12:37 cait Joubu: ? :) 12:36 tcohen morning #koha 12:35 cait French speaker around? gaetan_B? 12:32 kivilahtio_ jcamins: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 12:30 ashimema deffo share your finds nlegrand.. profiling is really suefull to us all 12:20 jcamins kivilahtio_: I don't have any idea how to fix your problem, sorry. I was just telling you that I have a multi-homed server. 12:16 nlegrand ok ! 12:13 petter So, please share your finds! 12:13 petter For example, I thought database-calls where the most expensive, but it turns out in usually takes more time to parse XML and generate marc objects 12:12 petter It's very interesting to see where most time is spent 12:12 petter I'd love to see more activity on this 12:12 petter nlegrand: I've also been profiling with NYTprof lately (fantastic tool btw!) 12:08 nlegrand naive question: I just made some profiling with http://search.cpan.org/~timb/Devel-NYTProf/ with Bulac Koha, it's rather usefull to see what is taking time. I'm about to document it inside Bulac documentation site, but maybe it's worth an entry in the Koha Wiki? 11:59 nlegrand hey #koha! 11:56 drojf is there a roadmap for 3.16 somewhere? i can't find it on the wiki 11:49 drojf hi cait :) 11:49 cait hi drojf 11:48 drojf hi #koha 10:42 magnuse cait: ok, thanks 10:42 cait magnuse: correct 10:41 magnuse they have to be in separate .inc/.tt files to be translated? 10:41 magnuse cait: text strings in .js files are not translated? 10:39 kivilahtio_ I hope he will be around today :) 10:39 kivilahtio_ jcamins had an idea 10:39 cait kivilahtio_: no idea - sorry 10:39 cait gaetan_B: ok :) 10:39 kivilahtio_ I need to send packets from a virtual container via a specific eth4 (not the default gateway). Containers are connected by a bridge and their outbound packets are routed via an extra routing table specifying the eth4 as a default gateway, then they are NATed. I get packets out via the correct path but not the replies :( 10:38 gaetan_B it sounds like a very good idea yes 10:38 cait i was not sure why it as left out in the first place 10:38 cait gaetan_B: should i add it to the French PDF template as well? 10:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11859 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Add edition and publication year to PDF templates in acquisitions 10:38 cait now what do you think about bug 11859? 10:37 cait thx :) 10:37 gaetan_B cait: yes ! absolutely ! 10:37 kivilahtio_ Could anyone help me with linux routing tables? 10:37 cait gaetan_B: 205$a was right? 10:33 Joubu marcelr: yes, it is quite important. 10:33 Joubu s/and/at 10:33 marcelr soon 10:33 marcelr this needs some general attention 10:32 Joubu there is a FIXME and the end 10:32 Joubu marcelr: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=24025 10:32 marcelr ok isee thanks 10:32 Joubu using a transaction, the 2nd handler is waiting the connexion and don't manage to execute the query 10:31 marcelr yes, and what was the exact problem 10:31 Joubu marcelr: there are 2 handlers on the same DB: 1 handler created in C4::Context and 1 in Koha::Database 10:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8007 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Discharge management 10:22 marcelr Joubu: what did you mean with [The transaction does not work, we use 2 handlers on the same DB] in connection with bug 8007 ? 10:16 gaetan_B indeed 10:15 cait but we have biblioitems.editionstatement - i think it could go there for marc21 and unimarc ? 10:15 cait and it's not mapped 10:15 cait 205 $a 10:15 cait i think i found it 10:15 gaetan_B "2nd edition" 10:15 gaetan_B err 10:15 gaetan_B cait: the edition as in "énd editioné ? 10:14 Joubu cait: no, gaetan_B maybe? 10:07 cait column 10:07 cait field = biblio or biblioitems field 10:05 cait Joubu: do you knwo in which field the edition is stored for UNIMARC? 09:57 cait :) 09:53 petter hi cait! 09:53 cait hi petter 09:33 cait hope i didn't mess up :) 09:33 cait patches attached 09:23 Joubu magnuse: are you a syspref addict? :) 09:22 cait :) 09:22 magnuse then you can turn it off and on without needing to re-enter the setting to turn it on 09:22 cait if only one setting, one pref shoudl work 09:22 magnuse i favour the two syspref version 09:22 cait i think if more setting, a central switch is good 09:22 cait leave empty otherwise 09:21 cait i think smsdriver only has the url to activate 09:21 magnuse there might be more settings needed later 09:21 cait hm 09:21 magnuse rfid :-) 09:21 cait what kind of feature? 09:21 magnuse adding a new feature that should be off by default and needs one setting (a url for a service). which is best: to have a dedicated syspref to turn the feature on and off + one syspref for te setting OR to have empty setting = feature off, non-empty setting = feature on? 09:12 cait :) 09:11 marcelr :) 09:11 cait hi marcel 09:11 marcelr hi #koha 09:01 Joubu cait: yep 09:00 cait I will just add in a separate patch and you can take a look 08:59 Joubu cait: yes, certainly 08:59 cait woudl you be interested in showing the accountnumber on the french template? 08:59 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7267 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Display accountnumber in PDF 08:59 cait Joubu: bug 7267 08:59 Joubu magnuse: :) 08:59 magnuse naaaah... 08:58 cait magnuse: you invented that 08:58 cait but the french one is layout3pages 08:58 magnuse le numeriqe accountique de la vendorique 08:58 cait Joubu: i am working on some enh for the layout2pages 08:58 Joubu cait: numéro de compte ? 08:58 cait ah never mind 08:57 cait i need the french term for account number in the vendor :) 08:57 magnuse set that to bootstrap 08:57 cait some french around? :) 08:57 magnuse the syspref is called " opacthemes " 08:57 saa what in syspref 08:57 saa will that help 08:56 magnuse you have to change the syspref 08:56 saa i am running 08:56 saa ok that means i can only see old koha opac internace 08:56 magnuse ? 08:56 magnuse dud you run koha-upgrade-to-3.4 08:56 magnuse forget about koha-translate, then ;-) 08:56 magnuse ok 08:55 saa no 08:55 magnuse you have no other languages installed? 08:55 magnuse yeah, no use updating en, tht's the default 08:54 saa Error: the default language (en) cannot be updated. 08:54 saa koha-translate -u en 08:53 magnuse also for the translations: "sudo koha-translate -u <yourlanguagecode>" 08:52 magnuse saa: "sudo koha-upgrade-to-3.4 <instancename>" - but i have never run it after such a "long" upgrade... 08:52 cait saa: have to leave for a bit, maybe someone else can help you with updating translations and correcting item data - i think that's the steps you need to do now 08:51 cait heh 08:51 saa can u pl tell me what i need to run 08:51 paul_p :D :D 08:51 paul_p OK, will try. You should ask angela for the same. Maybe EU will accept ! 08:51 magnuse saa: there is a script you need to run 08:50 cait paul_p: it would help yes :) 08:50 cait look at the help for the script 08:50 saa install or update 08:50 magnuse paul_p: excellent idea! 08:50 saa what should i use just koha_translate 08:50 paul_p :D 08:50 paul_p cait do you want me to ask our govt to declare that, from 10th to 14th, days will last 48 hours ? 08:49 cait paul_p: i will make a note :) already have quite a list! 08:49 paul_p cait = can't find what I was looking for (and must leave for a meeting. don't hesitate to ask alex during the hackfest. We made a branch just for aix-marseille, that we maintain 08:49 saa and dumped 3.2 database 08:49 cait if you are using packages there shoudl be a koha-translate command for updating the templates 08:49 saa i installed 3.14 through packages 08:49 cait saa: how did oyu install koha? 08:48 cait saa: the way items are stored changed between 3.2 and 3.12 - lots of things changed :) 08:48 saa thx cait for all help 08:47 saa my job is over 08:47 cait magnuse: can you help me out with the remove... script saa needs to run? 08:47 saa if u tell me those 08:47 cait paul_p: maybe it's similar to what we have here - maybe ask you again in marseille ;) 08:47 * paul_p dig git 08:47 cait saa: also coming from an old version you need to run an additional script 08:46 paul_p cait = we made a specific branch for them. 08:46 cait saa: if you use trnaslations, you need to recreate the templates 08:46 paul_p cait = I don't think so. AixMarseille university uses contact-less cards, dunno if it's mifare. 08:46 saa why it could be 08:46 cait paul_p: which remembers me - do uyou have libraries using mifare cards? 08:46 saa only thing koha opac page shows old UI 08:46 saa yes worked fine 08:45 cait paul_p: I think he pointed me to your repository back then 08:45 cait paul_p: not sure 3M was submitted somewhere - I remember talking to hdl about it ages ago 08:44 magnuse which has some ~5 years old code from slef 08:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2244 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , RFID Cataloguing and Circulation 08:44 magnuse there is bug 2244 08:43 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5439 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED INVALID, 3M RFID sensitization 08:43 paul_p magnuse done, bug 5439 closed. I think there's another bug for this 08:43 cait the errors should be ok 08:39 saa and then check 08:39 saa shall i rebuild zebra manually 08:38 saa only threw abv two errors 08:38 saa [Thu Feb 27 14:06:07 2014] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate column name 'privacy' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 4003. [Thu Feb 27 14:06:07 2014] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate column name 'privacy' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 4004. 08:38 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5439 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 3M RFID sensitization 08:38 magnuse paul_p: could/shuld bug 5439 just be closed? 08:37 cait not bad so far then :) 08:36 saa right it says updating from 3.01 to 3.14.04 08:35 cait it should update now your database, instead of offering sample files etc. 08:35 cait i'd runt he web installer first 08:35 saa or index first 08:35 saa shall i now just run webinstall 08:34 saa i ran mysql -uroot -p koha_library < koha-dapoli-3.2-backup.sql this command and it did nt throw any error 08:33 saa ok let me try 08:33 cait did you do the drop and create commands? 08:32 cait good :) 08:32 saa it is not there use koha 08:32 cait doing the drop and create and then reloading might just wor without any additional changes 08:32 cait if there is use koha; you want to change it to use koha_library - but it might not be necessary 08:31 cait look for a line starting with use 08:31 cait it's not different to a text filer really 08:31 saa i opened 08:31 cait open it in an editor or use vi 08:30 saa can u tell me hw i can change that in sql file of old dump 08:30 saa sorry 08:30 cait should be use database; 08:29 cait if it's in the sql file (somewhere at the beginning) change it to your new database name 08:29 cait and then bad things can happen 08:29 cait check the sql file you loaded - sometimes the database name is in the dump 08:29 saa is that ok 08:28 saa new database will be koha_library 08:28 saa my old dump has database name koha and passwd library 08:28 cait then reload your dump 08:28 cait make sure you drop the right database! drop database xxxx; create database xxxx; 08:28 saa already logged in 08:28 cait you log into mysql for that 08:27 saa can u tell me command to empty database 08:27 cait not run the web installer 08:27 cait before you import yours 08:26 cait try emptying out the database 08:26 saa but came out 08:26 cait yeah 08:26 saa it threw above error 08:26 saa ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 2586: Can't create table 'koha_library.letter' (errno: 150) 08:26 cait check the version it shows in the systempreferences 08:26 cait did your sql file copy correctly? 08:26 saa but when i opened webpage it did nt ask for any upgrade page 08:25 saa then copied 3.2 sql file through terminal 08:25 saa i tried importing koha 3.2 to 3.14 first blank installation of 3.14 with web install run 08:19 magnuse kia ora cait 08:19 cait good morning magnuse 08:19 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Kikut, Oslo, Norway is 1.9°C (9:05 AM CET on February 27, 2014). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 08:19 magnuse @wunder oslo, norway 08:19 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 5.4°C (9:18 AM CET on February 27, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising). 08:19 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:18 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, CLOSED FIXED, Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches 08:18 wahanui bug 7417 is a good one too 08:18 cait bug 7417 08:18 * magnuse waves 08:18 paxed MARC21slim2intranetResults.xsl 08:18 cait which xslt are you looking at? 08:18 cait yeah but it can help when you stumble on something you don't find there 08:17 paxed if i'm looking at the xslt and it handles marc, i first look at the marc specs. 08:17 cait and find the patch that added it, if you are lookng at the code :) 08:17 cait you can always do a git blame 08:17 paxed ok, just an undocumented(?) Magic Value 08:15 cait and they will use the z indicator (to my knowledge) 08:12 cait so zebra gets them with the record for indexing 08:12 cait when using authorities you can make the search also index the see also forms 08:12 wahanui IncludeSeeFromInSearches is something else entirely, but DidYouMeanFromAuthorities shouldn't be there anymore. 08:12 cait IncludeSeeFromInSearches 08:12 cait finding the pref 08:11 cait sec 08:11 matts hi ! 08:11 paxed index headings? 08:11 cait paxed: correct, that's why z is used 08:11 cait paxed: yes, that is used I think when you index headings 08:11 paxed there is no ind1=z in the marc21 format 08:10 reiveune salut cait 08:10 paxed ind1!=z???? 08:10 cait khall: isn't it really late or realyl early for you? 08:10 paxed <xsl:for-each select="marc:datafield[(@tag=100 or @tag=700) and @ind1!='z']"> 08:10 cait oh and hi reiveune :) 08:10 cait hi Joubu and gaetan_B 08:06 gaetan_B hello 07:59 Joubu o/ 07:48 reiveune hello 07:41 cait (something that is said today in Konstanz by crazily costumed people) 07:40 cait ho narro! 07:40 cait good morning #koha 07:40 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. 07:40 huginn` GERMS!!!! 07:14 mtj …run those 2 commands after web-install, all done :) 07:14 mtj . 07:14 mtj $ sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f -v your_koha 07:13 mtj $ sudo koha-upgrade-to-3.4 your_koha 07:13 mtj and then the 'sudo koha-upgrade-to-3.4 your_koha' script, too 07:11 mtj you do need to run web-install 07:11 saa i can just run mysql -uroot -p koha_library < koha3.2backup.sql 07:10 saa i can install 3.14 and i dont need to run webinstall right 07:10 mtj no probs… :) 07:10 saa oh tx for this 07:10 mtj you can upgrade a koha 3.0 db to latest koha, all in one go :) 07:09 mtj yep, a biggg waste of time ^^ :) 07:08 mtj …if the version number is old, koha redirects to the upgrade page 07:08 mtj every time koha generates a page it checks the db version number... 07:08 saa i spent unnecessarily time on going from 3.2 to 3.4, 3.6 etc. 07:07 saa oh let me try immediately 07:07 mtj yes 07:07 mtj hit the admin url, and it will prompt you for 3.2 -> 3.14 upgrade 07:07 saa will it directly take 07:06 mtj saa, create a test 3.14 koha - then load your 3.2 db into it 06:38 wajasu you might scour the release notes or wiki to see how things progressed across versions. 06:37 wajasu you are on the right track 06:37 wajasu ls 06:37 wajasu pwd 06:26 saa i have a 3.2 sql backup can some one tell me hw easily and safely i can get it in 3.14 02:56 dcook It's so lonely out here! 02:56 dcook ... 02:26 mtompset dcook: You there? 02:26 mtompset Well, logbot. we've been split. :) 01:12 mtompset 856$u rocks. :) 00:31 huginn` bag: recorded. (Repeatable) 00:31 bag @more 00:31 bag @ 00:31 huginn` bag: Uniform Resource Identifier The URI, which provides standard syntax for locating an object using existing Internet protocols. Field 856 is structured to allow for the creation of a URL from the concatenation of other separate 856 subfields. Subfield $u may be used instead of those separate subfields or in addition to them.Subfield $u may be repeated only if both a URN or a URL or more than one URN are (1 more message) 00:31 bag @marc 856 u 00:30 huginn` bag: [a,b,c,d,f,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,2,3,6,8] 00:30 bag @more 00:30 huginn` bag: The information needed to locate and access an electronic resource. The field may be used in a bibliographic record for a resource when that resource or a subset of it is available electronically. In addition, it may be used to locate and access an electronic version of a non-electronic resource described in the bibliographic record or a related electronic resource. 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