Time  Nick       Message
03:13 eythian    wahanui: \I assume is <reply>\You just made a donkey of an ume plum.  Please choose your words with better care.
03:13 wahanui    ...but i assume is commented because breaks something, right?...
03:13 eythian    no wahanui, \I assume is <reply>\You just made a donkey of an ume plum.  Please choose your words with better care.
03:13 wahanui    okay, eythian.
03:14 eythian    I assume
03:14 eythian    wahanui: I assume
03:14 wahanui    eythian: i'm not following you...
03:14 eythian    how odd
03:15 jcamins    wahanui assume
03:15 wahanui    jcamins: i'm not following you...
03:15 jcamins    wahanui: wahanui assume
03:15 wahanui    jcamins: sorry...
03:16 Kyle       Hi, is there any reason why Koha would disconnect from SIP when a checkout request is sent?
03:16 rangi      i just answered your email about that I think, check the syslog
03:17 mtompset   Okay, I'm not supposed to be doing coding, but...
03:17 mtompset   How do I do DBIx schema stuff?
03:19 rangi      i juts answered that too, on the bug
03:21 mtompset   Okay, reading.
03:21 mtompset   Thanks.
03:22 rangi      Guest262: also it might log to the sip.err or sip.out log too, my guess is for some reason (maybe missing branch info being sent by the kiosk) the circ module is crashing
03:24 mtompset   rangi: So, in short, I've already made the structure changes, run that script, and commit the diffs?
03:47 mtompset   rangi: Why is the 'use utf8;' not in the generated Schema files for me?
03:58 mtompset   Hmmm... Ubuntu's schema loader is an earlier version.
04:15 mtompset   Blast... Ubuntu's schema loader is the problem.
04:27 mtompset   Okay, there... but I don't know how to TEST a schema file.
04:28 rangi      ahh you can deploy it
04:28 rangi      thats the easiest way
04:28 jcamins    wizzyrea: FYI, we live in the future. It is possible to buy a 40x-1000x (!) microscope that you can connect to your computer for $125.
04:28 rangi      http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11390
04:28 huginn`    04Bug 11390: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , DBIx::Class schema deployment script
04:30 rangi      but if you generated it, and it reads ok, i can test it and sign off
04:30 rangi      the nice thing with schema files
04:30 rangi      is they are actually quite human readable
04:38 mtompset   That they are... and once generated under Debian, the diff looks better.
04:40 mtompset   I did generate it. I put the steps I took to generate it into the patch. :)
04:51 rangi      cool
04:52 rangi      it will be covered in the dev meeting on the 25th too
05:15 mtompset   Well, back to not programming... *sigh* The joys of fundraising.
05:15 mtompset   Have a great day, #koha.
05:15 rangi      cya mtompset
05:16 mtompset   Thanks, rangi.
05:24 brendan_   evening y'all
05:44 * cait     waves
07:40 reiveune   hello
07:50 * magnuse  waves
07:50 marcelr    hi magnuse
07:50 wahanui    hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
07:52 magnuse    wahanui: wednesday and thursday of this week, if you must know ;-)
07:52 wahanui    magnuse: sorry...
07:52 magnuse    wahanui: nah, it's ok
07:52 wahanui    magnuse: huh?
07:52 magnuse    wahanui: it really is!
07:52 wahanui    magnuse: sorry...
07:57 alex_a     bonjour
07:58 marcelr    hi alex_a
08:02 huginn`    GERMS!!!!
08:02 wahanui    Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
08:02 cait       hmpf.
08:15 Joubu      hi
08:16 cait       morning Jo
08:16 cait       morning Joubu :)
08:18 magnuse    @wunder marcelr
08:18 huginn`    magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
08:18 magnuse    gah!
08:18 cait       heh
08:18 magnuse    @wunder marseille
08:18 huginn`    magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 5.2°C (9:18 AM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Rising).
08:18 marcelr    ??
08:18 marcelr    hi cait Joubu
08:19 magnuse    sorry, my fingers thought xchat should autocomplete mar -> marseille
08:19 marcelr    :)
08:19 magnuse    i was not trying to check your temperature marcelr ;-)
08:19 marcelr    37
08:21 magnuse    that's good to hear :-)
08:37 cait       wizzyrea: around?
08:38 kivilahtio do you have any stress testing scripts for Koha?
08:38 kivilahtio I am about to embark on a perilous journey of configuring our dproduction server environments
08:38 kivilahtio would like to test apache2 and mysql and zebra
08:39 kivilahtio to find any bottlenecks
08:39 kivilahtio I have used Multi Mechanize to do some basic web crawling, but do you have other alternatives which you fancy?
08:45 rangi      curl-loader
08:51 kivilahtio do you have any idea about Zebra security?
08:51 kivilahtio or running Zebra in a separate virtual server than Koha-apahce2
08:52 kivilahtio we need to separate web-servers and databsae servers to separate network regions
08:52 kivilahtio I am a bit worried about putting zebra into a virtual server due to io performance
08:53 kivilahtio do you have a best practice about "Is it safe to put Zebra to intranet?"
08:54 cait       not my area of expertise - not running any servers, sorry
08:54 cait       i have heard that having mysql and zebra not on the same server is good for performance, but that's about all i know
08:55 kivilahtio maye I could but zebra to a virtual server and give native access to a ssd-partition
08:55 kivilahtio should solve those issues :)
09:00 Joubu      kivilahtio: some scripts exist in misc/load_testing
09:05 kivilahtio thanks yous everybody!
09:06 kivilahtio I got lots of ALERTS! :)
10:05 cait       Joubu+
10:05 cait       Joubu++ even
10:05 cait       can't type today
10:12 kivilahtio cait: I can't type!
10:12 kivilahtio yay!
10:14 cait       hm?
10:14 kivilahtio that was a kinda joka
10:14 kivilahtio *joke
10:35 mveron     Hi #koha
10:36 mveron     @wunder basel
10:36 huginn`    mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 9.8°C (11:33 AM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
10:37 mveron     @seen drojf
10:37 huginn`    mveron: drojf was last seen in #koha 5 days, 18 hours, 29 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <drojf> cait++
11:01 marcelr    hi mveron
11:05 mveron     hi marcelr
11:05 * cait     waves
11:05 mveron     hi cait
12:47 tcohen     back
12:47 tcohen     hi #koha
12:49 marcelr    hi tcohen
13:02 magnuse    @wunder marseille
13:02 huginn`    magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 13.7°C (2:02 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 22%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
13:02 magnuse    ooh
13:03 tcohen     @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:03 huginn`    tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 19.0°C (9:35 AM ART on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
13:03 matts      warmer than bodo magnuse ?
13:03 cait       h tcohen and magnuse :)
13:03 cait       matts: you will be at the hackfest, right? :)
13:03 tcohen     hi cait!
13:04 matts      cait, yeah, of course... Wouldn't miss it !
13:04 cait       excellent :)
13:06 magnuse    @wunder boo
13:06 huginn`    magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (1:50 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.24 in 990 hPa (Rising).
13:06 magnuse    matts: yup
13:07 matts      what's 10°C ? nothing, really :)
13:07 cait       @wunder Konstanz
13:07 huginn`    cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 9.0°C (2:00 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 52%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
13:07 cait       @wunder Marseille
13:07 huginn`    cait: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 13.8°C (2:07 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
13:10 magnuse    matts: so true ;-)
13:13 cait       matts: i trust you to take care that we have nice weather :) I plan to pack t-shirts
13:13 cait       tired of cold and wet
13:14 matts      yeah, of course... Indeed it will be so hot the hackfest will take place at the beach instead of Biblibre's office ;)
13:14 cait       hehe
13:14 cait       well i don't like hot... so just make it moderate ok? :)
13:15 matts      ok, will do :)
13:15 matts      (just hope Marseille's famous nasty wind won't be with us during this week)
13:16 cait       :)
13:18 magnuse    yeah, moderate and non-windy is on my wishlist too ;-)
13:19 janPasi_   Why are we getting this message: "For help, please send mail to the webmaster ([no address given] <mailto:%5Bno%20address%20given%5D>), giving this error message and
13:19 janPasi_   the time and date of the error."
13:19 janPasi_   ?
13:19 janPasi_   the koha_admin_email_address is set
13:20 cait       janPasi: Where and when does the message appear?
13:22 mveron     janPasi_:I suppose it is a crash in a .pl file? - I had similar thing, see bug 11773
13:22 huginn`    04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11773 normal, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Crash 'undefined value as a HASH' in sco-main.pl
13:23 janPasi    cait: there was some sort of temporary glitch when adding an item and that message appeared from koha staff client
13:24 tcohen     janPasi: the code is not capturing an error condition
13:24 tcohen     we should capture it and print a proper error / warning message
13:24 janPasi    however that message only appeared once, the next time it worked as expected
13:35 tcohen     janPasi: it is definitely a bug, its a pity you cannot reproduce it so we fix it
13:36 janPasi    ok, i see
15:09 cait       jcamins: around?
15:41 mveron     Problem on German mailing list: After upgrad to Koha-Version 3.14.03 following error message whil displaying search results:
15:41 mveron     Template process failed: plugin error - KohaAuthorisedValues: plugin not found at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 132.
15:41 mveron     What can be done?
15:41 jcamins    mveron: you'll need to regenerate your translations.
15:42 mveron     jcamins: Thanks, I will post this answer on German mailing list.
16:06 kivilahtio LXC looks promising :)
16:06 kivilahtio c u later #Koha!
16:06 tcohen     hi jcamins
16:23 cait       mveron: ah, now i see that my anser didn't go through :(
16:42 reiveune   bye
18:05 * cait     waves
18:08 tcohen     bye cait
18:08 cait       tcohen: you leaving?
18:08 tcohen     indeed :-D
18:10 cait       tcohen: have a nice evening :)
18:10 tcohen     thanks!
18:10 tcohen     i'll be online later
18:11 cait       :)
18:11 tcohen     slowly going back to normal :-D
18:11 cait       no vacation can last forever :)
18:40 dpk1       hi.  What's Marcel's nick?
18:41 cait       dpk: marcelr
18:41 cait       but he is home by now i think - he is in europe
18:42 dpk1       Thanks.  I think my latest patch was created on a branch too far from head so didn't apply.  Rebasing now.
18:59 fredericd  Anyone get Koha SIP2 server failing on Debian Wheezy + Perl 5.14?
19:00 cait       hm we are using Debian, but not sure about versions
19:00 cait       no problems so far with 3.12.9
19:01 fredericd  cait: thanks. Same Koha works on previous Debian version
20:14 bag        afternoon
20:14 wizzyrea   sup bag
20:15 bag        hello there wizzyrea
20:15 cait       hi bag and wizzyrea :)
20:15 bag        hey there cait
20:15 bag        @wunder 93102
20:16 huginn`    bag: The current temperature in Westside (Gillespie), Santa Barbara, California is 20.2°C (12:15 PM PST on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
20:16 wizzyrea   @wunder nzwn
20:16 cait       @wunder Konstanz
20:16 huginn`    wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on February 18, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
20:16 huginn`    cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.1°C (8:30 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
20:16 druthb     @wunder 77098
20:16 huginn`    druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 26.1°C (2:16 PM CST on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising).
20:16 wizzyrea   mm cloudy thouhg
20:16 cait       brr
20:16 bag        amazing day here - went for a nice walk this morning in the butterfly park
20:16 bag        wow druthb 26!
20:16 wizzyrea   yeah that's... unseasonable
20:17 druthb     Nice spring day, in Houston.
20:18 druthb     Little early, but we were unseasonably *cold* last week.
20:20 wizzyrea   mtompset about?
20:20 wizzyrea   yea naw. ok
20:46 mveron     @wunder Basel
20:46 huginn`    mveron: The current temperature in Wetter Allschwil, Allschwil, Switzerland is 6.0°C (9:43 PM CET on February 17, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
20:46 mveron     Good night #koha
21:06 francharb  hi all
21:07 cait       hi francharb
21:07 francharb  how are you doing cait ?
21:07 cait       still super busy but mostly ok
21:07 francharb  great!
21:07 cait       how are you doing? :)
21:07 francharb  still super busy but mostly ok ;0
21:07 francharb  hehe
21:07 cait       :)
21:10 francharb  cait, when setting up a biblio framewok, do you know what  "flagged" is in the visibility options?
21:10 cait       my guess is noone knows
21:10 francharb  ahah
21:11 francharb  I like that
21:11 cait       when it got changed from the numbers to the checkboxes we wondered
21:11 wizzyrea   heh yea
21:11 cait       but it was ther ebefore and is now... but i am not persuaded it ctually does something
21:12 francharb  I did activate/desactivate the option and cant see the difference... so yep, it may do nothing
21:12 francharb  I'll try a little further
21:13 francharb  thanks cait
21:14 wizzyrea   it's a silly button, but we couldn't get the replacement of the ridiculous number scheme through without continuing to have the flagged box there.
21:43 eythian    hi
21:44 eythian    wizzyrea: sounds like we need a quiet little patch to remove it now then :)
21:44 wizzyrea   heh.
21:44 wizzyrea   where's that xkcd on features...
21:45 wizzyrea   https://xkcd.com/1172/
21:48 cait       wizzyrea++
21:48 cait       thx :)
21:58 francharb  see you