Time  Nick           Message
23:47 dcook          Hmm, I think the Git I'm looking at should be 3.15.x
23:46 eythian        that was for 3.12.10, fwiw. 3.14.x is a bit larger.
23:46 eythian        :)
23:46 * dcook        is going to stop rambling
23:45 dcook          Which is what you posted..
23:45 dcook          1.4G for the Git
23:45 dcook          421M for that Koha..
23:45 dcook          Oh wait, that's not Koha, drrr
23:44 dcook          I was wondering why the Koha I'm looking at is 3.3G
23:44 dcook          Ahh, translations
23:44 eythian        .git doesn't count, because it's not in the .deb.
23:44 dcook          and .git
23:44 dcook          Wouldn't it be tests, C4, and etc?
23:44 dcook          Misc?
23:42 wahanui        well, translations is http://translate.koha-community.org/
23:42 eythian        oh, translations
23:42 eythian        so most of it is 'misc'
23:41 eythian        http://paste.koha-community.org/109
23:41 eythian        it's a lot smaller if we use xz.
23:40 dcook          So what is that 60mb actually composed of? Mostly instructions?
23:40 eythian        gzipping everything is about the same size as the .deb
23:40 * dcook        wonders from time to time about the relative size of the packages and Koha in general
23:40 eythian        Yeah, it's usually around that size
23:39 dcook          I noticed the last update that I did was something around 60MB...
23:39 eythian        (by separating them, I was thinking having debian/ in another branch in the same git repo, or something.)
23:39 dcook          Mmm, that sounds like a good thing...
23:39 eythian        It'd make it cleaner to release a new package with only package-related changes without having to change Koha.
23:39 dcook          Mmm, k. In that case, I'll stop asking questions until I look more into building packages myself :). Thanks for entertaining my questions anyway :)
23:38 eythian        not really, it's more a question of management.
23:38 * dcook        says again having no idea what he's really saying
23:38 dcook          If it's a non-native package, could it be easier to create something like a RPM alongside it?
23:37 eythian        it's mostly just cosmetic.
23:37 dcook          Or is it still close enough to Debian?
23:37 eythian        ot
23:37 eythian        not at all
23:37 dcook          Could dropping that revision have implications for Ubuntu users then?
23:37 eythian        maybe anyway, I'm slightly on the fence.
23:36 eythian        But I think packaging and upstream should be a little bit more separated.
23:36 eythian        In the new debian tools, I have to change the version numbering if it's a native package. So, dropping the -1 off the end.
23:34 eythian        essentially splitting out the debian/ directory and maintaining it separately.
23:34 eythian        https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#What_is_the_difference_between_a_native_Debian_package_and_a_non-native_package.3F <-- the two questions from there explain it better than I can
23:34 * dcook        says as a Debian neophyte
23:33 dcook          What might that mean?
23:33 eythian        Primarily stop it being a debian native package, I think.
23:32 eythian        I updated it to debian testing, and a few things changed. I need to spend the time re-designing how parts of the packaging work, I think.
23:31 dcook          Ouch.
23:31 eythian        oof, it now takes 2.5GB of space to do a full package build, not including the space for the source itself. Time I reconfigured my build vm.
22:35 * tcohen       is ashamed he forgot the meeting!
22:34 tcohen         oh my
22:19 magnuse        have fun #koha!
21:38 eythian        ah, I can now mark people's posts on bugzilla as private :)
21:38 magnuse        davidnind++ for sending the reminder about the meeting i missed
21:37 rhcl1          tnx
21:37 rhcl1          ah, got it. tns
21:37 eythian        rhcl1: 'are' is the plural form of 'is' :)
21:37 magnuse        lulz
21:37 rhcl1          ack
21:37 pianohacker    rhcl1: We're just muckin' with wahanui, just an average day in #koha
21:37 rhcl1          I are confused.
21:36 eythian        oh, or an 'are'
21:36 wahanui        ...but lot are by includes and stuff its hard to spot...
21:36 wahanui        ...but lot is by includes and stuff its hard to spot...
21:36 eythian        wahanui: A lot are probably from people saying this long thing with an
21:36 eythian        A lot are probably from people saying this long thing with an is in the middle.
21:35 eythian        heh
21:35 pianohacker    35k? Dear loard
21:35 wahanui        Since Wed Feb  5 01:40:11 2014, there have been 51 modifications and 17 questions.  I have been awake for 1 day, 19 hours, 55 minutes, 23 seconds this session, and currently reference 35567 factoids. Addressing is in optional mode.
21:35 eythian        wahanui: status
21:35 wahanui        and forth.
21:35 pianohacker    back?
21:34 eythian        hiya
21:34 eythian        The limit must be 5 or 6 characters.
21:34 pianohacker    hi eythian :)
21:34 pianohacker    possibly...
21:34 eythian        I think it's too short to activate.
21:34 pianohacker    back
21:34 wahanui        OK, eythian.
21:34 eythian        wahanui: back is <reply>and forth.
21:34 bag            welcome back pianohacker
21:34 pianohacker    back
21:30 huginn         magnuse: Error: I have no notes for that nick.
21:30 magnuse        @notes magnuse:
21:29 huginn         tcohen: Sent 25 weeks, 6 days, 13 hours, and 11 minutes ago: <magnuse> maybe you can have a look at my followup on bug 10622? and Sent 4 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, and 58 minutes ago: <mtompset> git rebase -i then cut and paste them into the correct order?
21:29 tcohen         @notes tcohen:
21:29 eythian        magnuse: no movement on that front :(
21:29 eythian        it's from people sending messages to 'eythian:' rather than 'eythian'
21:29 magnuse        ooh, i'm still curious about funding for the "images from multiple sources thing" :-)
21:29 tcohen         what is that @notes about?
21:28 eythian        it's like a little bit of archeology
21:28 huginn         eythian: Sent 2 years, 41 weeks, 2 days, 6 hours, and 57 minutes ago: <cait> forget everything before and answer that question: Is there a bug for the accounting rewrite to which I can link bugs as 2696 Fine payments should show whatwas paid for, Sent 1 year, 2 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, and 6 minutes ago: <magnuse> kia ora! any news on the funding for the images from multiple sources thing? just curious... :-), Sent (3 more messages)
21:28 eythian        @notes eythian:
21:27 magnuse        eythian++
21:27 magnuse        very cool!
21:27 eythian        magnuse: and I'm working on a script to automate the whole thing to avoid messing it up in the future :)
21:27 eythian        no worries
21:26 magnuse        just curious!
21:26 tcohen         the road of excess leads to the tower of wisdom
21:26 magnuse        eythian: cool, no problem! :-)
21:26 eythian        g'day tcohen
21:26 eythian        also, yesterday was a holiday so I was at a BBQ.
21:26 tcohen         hi eythian
21:26 eythian        If you're asking why that package hasn't been updated, there are Reasons which will be revealed in a day or so :)
21:25 eythian        magnuse: I am now
21:25 eythian        hi
21:07 tcohen         (while doin time)
21:07 * tcohen       thinks there's nothing better for the impatient than testing easy patches
21:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11704 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Wrong headers in {opac|intranet}/svc/report
21:05 magnuse        bug 11704
21:05 tcohen         hi magnuse! o/
21:05 * magnuse      waves to tcohen
21:00 huginn         tcohen_: The operation succeeded.
21:00 tcohen_        @later tell rangi i've filled 11704, you might be interested as it is code you worked on recently
20:58 huginn         tcohen_: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 23.0°C (5:00 PM ART on February 06, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
20:58 tcohen_        @wunder cordoba, argentina
20:56 wizzyrea       tcohen were you doing ok with the KohaCon stuff on the website?
20:53 wizzyrea       hi tcohen
20:53 tcohen         hi wizzyrea rangi
20:51 cait           good night all :)
20:49 magnuse        yeah, i'm just being impatient ;-)
20:47 wizzyrea       it would be unlike him not to :)
20:47 wizzyrea       I am certain he is going to fix whatever was wrong there
20:27 magnuse        i was just wondering if there was going to be a 3.14.02-2 package
20:27 magnuse        ah, ok
20:21 wizzyrea       40ish minutes
20:21 wizzyrea       ya not yet
20:21 cait           bit too early for him i think
20:21 magnuse        eythian around?
20:18 wahanui        hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
20:18 cait           hi magnuse
20:18 cait           :)
20:15 * magnuse      waves
19:51 mtompset_away  You can't use just the ip address, because the web server is namedhost VMs.
19:51 mtompset_away  Well, the ip address is 95.211.144.89. You could put that in your hosts, and bypass that problem, right?
19:49 mtompset_away  Strange the english word Reference in the midst of the other language.
19:49 oleonard       404s if I follow the link, an "blocked" message if I go directly to cba.pl. It's OpenDNS's filter.
19:48 mtompset_away  .us must not like .pl right now. ;(
19:48 mtompset_away  oleonard: You get 404's?
19:39 michael_poland http://michalx007.cba.pl/koha/BYWATER.JPG -> scereenshots from http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/
19:37 michael_poland pianohacker Have a nice day :)
19:36 michael_poland Bye,
19:35 pianohacker    I have to leave now. I have a doctor's appointment. Bye, good luck
19:35 pianohacker    michael_poland: Give your items a call number, and it will show up like ByWater
19:34 michael_poland But I can not solve this problem. Only through TeamViewer someone help me,
19:34 pianohacker    The part in brackets that you're missing is a call number
19:34 pianohacker    That's why ByWater's website shows it as Copies available for reference: East Branch
19:34 michael_poland yes
19:33 pianohacker    michael_poland: Your items are in a library (miejsce?) called Reference.
19:32 oleonard       I'm sure it's not your fault michael_poland :)
19:31 michael_poland I do not know, is a general hosting
19:29 oleonard       Looks like all of cba.pl is blocked by our firewall for security reasons.
19:28 michael_poland Now it should be ok
19:27 pianohacker    I see them, yes
19:27 oleonard       pianohacker: Are you able to see michael_poland's screenshots? All of them are 404's for me.
19:27 michael_poland http://michalx007.cba.pl/koha/reference.JPG
19:22 pianohacker    michael_poland: You have your reference book at a library or location called "Reference", which is why that is displayed strangely
19:22 pianohacker    michael_poland: The differences I see are that the call number is displayed on ByWater's site but not on your site
19:21 michael_poland I'll be back
19:20 michael_poland Look at it in me that is not what is underlined.
19:20 michael_poland sorry my english
19:19 michael_poland Look at this au me this is not what is underlined.
19:18 michael_poland Look at this! Web http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com -> http://michalx007.cba.pl/koha/BYWATER.JPG
19:16 pianohacker    michael_poland: There is one being displayed. Are there more that aren't?
19:15 michael_poland She did not display copies available for reference
19:14 pianohacker    michael_poland: It seems to be showing just the name of the library the reference items are at
19:14 pianohacker    michael_poland: Oh, it's not showing the call number?
19:13 michael_poland http://michalx007.cba.pl/koha/koha.JPG
19:06 michael_poland yes run rebuild_zebra
19:05 oleonard       michael_poland: When you open the item for editing does it show the correct Not for Loan status?
19:05 pianohacker    michael_poland: Have you run rebuild_zebra?
19:05 michael_poland I have teamviewer so I can show only because I have Koha locally
19:02 pianohacker    michael_poland: None of us have TeamViewer
19:00 pianohacker    michael_poland: Just give us a screenshot
18:59 michael_poland I'll download TeamViewer it can help someone to set.
18:59 pianohacker    michael_poland: Are you trying to change which items show as "copies available for reference"?
18:58 michael_poland that showed up
18:55 pianohacker    michael_poland: But it does show up now. What do you want to change?
18:55 michael_poland show up
18:54 pianohacker    michael_poland: You want "copies available for reference" to not show up?
18:53 michael_poland How should I set up at all and still does not appear copies for reference
18:51 pianohacker    michael_poland: What are you trying to change about that?
18:51 michael_poland pianohacker:  To the OPAC appeared Copies available for reference
18:49 pianohacker    michael_poland: what do you want to change?
18:47 michael_poland Cait: :(
18:46 cait           i am sorry, i think i don't undestand the problem :(
18:45 michael_poland oleonard: Not far have directory locally.
18:45 michael_poland cait: http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=windows+95&branch_group_limit=  -------- position 1, and displays Copies available for reference: East Branch [100000000267] (1).
18:43 oleonard       michael_poland: Is your catalog online?
18:43 cait           http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=46&query_desc=kw%2Cwrdl%3A%20windows%2095 < look at the detail page, one is for lona the other is not
18:43 cait           it's working as it should here
18:42 cait           if you mark an item not for loan, it will be displayed for reference
18:42 cait           michael_poland: what do you want to do?
18:42 michael_poland Set and does nothing: (
18:40 oleonard       "Everything set?" You mean you have edited the item and set it to "not for loan?"
18:37 michael_poland I have everything set just can not display the search result copies not for loan.
18:35 michael_poland How?
18:34 michael_poland oleonard: yes "not for loan"
18:34 oleonard       You can change this setting on the item edit screen
18:33 oleonard       michael_poland: That item has been marked "not for loan"
18:33 michael_poland Help me
18:32 michael_poland ??
18:31 michael_poland http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=windows+95&branch_group_limit= - the windows 95 this appears - Copies available for reference: East Branch [100000000267] (1 ).
18:29 michael_poland I want the search results come up copies for reference
18:27 oleonard       michael_poland: Can you clarify please? I don't understand what you're asking.
18:25 michael_poland Hello,  My question is how do I make a search was copies available for reference? Stay I can not find it. I have KOHA 3.14.  Please reply as soon as possible!
18:25 oleonard       Hi michael_poland
18:25 michael_poland hello
18:17 wahanui        i think pianohacker is a Dune fan, it seems.
18:17 bag            heya pianohacker
18:15 cait           hi pianohacker:)
18:12 pianohacker    hey cait
17:58 * cait         waves
17:57 wahanui        oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
17:57 pianohacker    hey oleonard
17:57 oleonard       Hi pianohacker, druthb
17:56 pianohacker    hallo
17:41 tcohen         heh
17:41 wahanui        reserves is giving every normal person evil headaches.
17:41 tcohen         reserves?
17:37 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Allow individual holds to be suspended and resumed from the OPAC
17:36 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11702 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Can't specify date for automatic resumption of suspended hold
17:36 * oleonard     feels like Bug 11702 just proves he's gone crazy... surely suspending an individual hold is (was?) working for others if Bug 10774 passed QA
17:33 reiveune       bye
17:14 tcohen         bye
17:14 gaetan_B       bye !
17:08 * chris_n      heads off to find food
17:08 chris_n        the law of conservation of time as applied to computers simply says that whatever time you save by using your computer someone else will spend supporting your computer
17:06 oleonard       Anyone have an opinion about that paste? ^^
17:05 cait           bye all :)
16:55 pastebot       "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Is one of these preferred? I see both used" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/108
16:34 kivilahtio     I am skiing home! Take care!
16:07 kivilahtio     cait: on it :)
16:07 cait           kivilahtio: you shoudl report that - thx for testing!
16:05 kivilahtio     I'll report that
16:04 kivilahtio     and I have 12 items waiting in the message_queue
16:04 kivilahtio     with this patch the overdue_notices.pl script takes 20x longer to run
16:01 kivilahtio     I was hoping to go home :(
15:59 cait           kivilahtio: bug 11244 should fix that
15:58 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11244 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , notices ignoring the dateformat preference
15:58 kivilahtio     actually nevermind the tediousness thats pretty easy with regexps
15:58 oleonard       kivilahtio: Is Bug 11244 related?
15:58 kivilahtio     its tedious to change them afterwards
15:57 kivilahtio     Any idea can I define some other date formats for the message templates than 2014-02-06 11:25:00 ?
15:55 Joubu          in Number::Format->round:     croak "round() overflow. Try smaller precision or use Math::BigFloat"         if $product > MAX_INT;
15:52 Joubu          I reproduce just right now
15:49 oleonard       Yup that did it. Koha obviously knows I'm not good for that much cash.
15:48 Joubu          oleonard: I didn't provide a patch, I consider nobody does that, except me. It appears I am not the only one :)
15:48 Joubu          oleonard: I got it last week. Try to add a budget with a big amount (something like 100000000000000000 should be enough :))
15:46 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11698 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , can't create a budget
15:46 * oleonard     can't reproduce Bug 11698
15:42 oleonard       Thankfully sending a cart by email doesn't fail silently so I knew more about the problem
15:41 Joubu          oleonard: hum... the BibLibre's demo is not running on master (but 3.10.12)
15:41 mtompset       chauffeur's hat...
15:41 mtompset       No problem.
15:41 oleonard       and by the way mtompset, my email sending problems were because of a broken Postfix config (not sure when that happened, it worked before), so thanks for the link
15:40 mtompset       oleonard: I think I may have found a bug or two to fix... ARG. :(
15:38 oleonard       Okay thanks. I'm just trying to find demos running master so I can confirm my suspend holds bug
15:38 paul_p         Joubu yep
15:38 Joubu          paul_p: so, should we change the url?
15:38 paul_p         oleonard = that's probably an outdated link. There's no more koha-fr.org demo. (and BibLibre don't manage koha-fr.org anymore, its managed by kohala)
15:36 Joubu          maybe we host it, i don't know
15:35 Joubu          oleonard: this one is not really the BibLibre demo. It's the koha-fr demo
15:35 oleonard       Joubu: Okay, so the wrong link on this page then? http://koha-community.org/demo/
15:35 mtompset       defaults not set... that's it.
15:34 gmcharlt       no! don't leave us!
15:34 jcamins        Whoops. Wrong window.
15:34 jcamins        :q
15:34 cait           mtompset: check the maximal holds in your circulation rules
15:34 oleonard       mtompset: Administration -> Circulation and fine rules
15:34 fridolin       hie all
15:34 Joubu          oleonard: BibLibre demo looks online: http://demo.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=&q=d
15:33 mtompset       likely... where?
15:33 huginn         jcamins: unknown tag 952
15:33 wahanui        The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Holdings_data_fields_%289xx%29
15:33 jcamins        @marc 952
15:33 oleonard       mtompset: You probably don't have a default hold rule set up in Circulation and fine rules?
15:32 mtompset       oleonard: Sorry, none of these items can be placed on hold.?
15:30 oleonard       paul_p: Biblibre Koha demo sites offline?
15:29 * gmcharlt     takes a look
15:29 oleonard       gmcharlt: Equinox Koha demo sites offline?
15:24 mtompset       And I need to put on my chauffeur's hat.
15:24 mtompset       Sorry... too much learning to try to duplicate.
15:22 * tcohen       loves how SimpleSearch reads
15:22 jcamins        *much
15:22 jcamins        But SimpleSearch is a uch less horrifying piece of code.
15:21 jcamins        No, I think that should be added.
15:21 tcohen         does SimpleSearch respect the business logic regarding sysprefs that getRecords implements?
15:20 mtompset       -- or I don't have the item checked out requiring a hold to be placed?
15:20 jcamins        Yes.
15:20 tcohen         jcamins, do u think we should just get rid of getRecords and stick with SimpleSearch + a proper SearchFacets function that retrieves the facets directly from zebra?
15:18 oleonard       If you don't see any links which say "place hold" then you may have RequestOnOpac turned off
15:15 mtompset       Okay... dumb question. How do I place a hold?
15:14 mtompset       1 is default, it would seem.
15:10 gmcharlt       tcohen++
15:10 huginn         tcohen: The operation succeeded.
15:10 tcohen         @later tell gmcharlt done
15:04 oleonard       Suspending all seems to work correctly.
15:04 oleonard       Specifically: 4. Suspend an individual hold (in master) and specify a date for resumption
15:01 oleonard       4. Suspend a hold and specify a date for resumption
15:01 oleonard       3. View your list of holds in the OPAC
15:01 oleonard       2. Place a hold
15:01 oleonard       1. Enable  SuspendHoldsOpac and AutoResumeSuspendedHolds
14:59 mtompset       oleonard: Can you give me a bunch of steps to reproduce?
14:58 oleonard       So... anyone else have problems with the suspend holds feature in the OPAC? When I specify a date it gets saved as 0000-00-00
14:54 wahanui        answer is always go back to sleep or 42
14:54 druthb         wahanui:  answer?
14:53 wahanui        the question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
14:53 cait           vfernandes: what's the question?
14:53 oleonard       Hi #koha
14:43 vfernandes     hi... there are here any expert on koha acquisitions?
14:42 cait           koha main list? ohoh
14:42 gaetan_B       well cait, thanks to you i think i just discovered another koha list i am not yet subscribed to ! o_o
14:39 gaetan_B       i can't see a good reason why it would work this way right now
14:38 gaetan_B       so that the librarians know they need to pull a book from the shelves
14:38 gaetan_B       i think it should be the other way around
14:38 gaetan_B       can someone confirm this ?
14:38 gaetan_B       it seems the librarian getting the notification will be the one from Paris (the library the borrower belongs to) and not the one from Marseille (the library the book belongs to)
14:37 gaetan_B       if emailLibrarianWhenHoldIsPlaced is active
14:37 gaetan_B       i have another more generic question : when placing in a library say in Paris, for a book located in Marseille,
14:30 gaetan_B       :)
14:30 kivilahtio     thanks for bringing this out gaetan_B
14:30 kivilahtio     wow this was good news
14:29 gaetan_B       ok that makes sense
14:29 jcamins        gaetan_B: no, you have to choose one alphabet and stick with it.
14:29 gaetan_B       does that mean zebra is able to sort a german title that starts with Ä at the beginning of the list with a swedish title at the end in the same results ??
14:28 gaetan_B       oh and you even have one such file per language
14:28 cait           on the koha list, 20.1.2014
14:28 cait           Re: [Koha]wrong sorting order of results beginning with accented letters (č, š, ř, ž,...)
14:28 cait           there were some hints on how to change it
14:28 gaetan_B       ah found it thanks
14:28 cait           about sorting
14:28 cait           yeh not long ago
14:28 jcamins        (no)
14:28 jcamins        cait: someone asked on the mailing list?
14:27 wahanui        well, sort-string-utf.chr is explained at http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/character-map-files.html
14:27 jcamins        sort-string-utf.chr
14:27 cait           jcamins: do you remember who asked on the mailing list?
14:27 gaetan_B       jcamins: do you know which file exactly ?
14:27 gaetan_B       (if i ever do a phd, i would want to do it on the alphabetical order !)
14:26 kivilahtio     truly!
14:26 gaetan_B       so it would be feasible, interesting
14:26 jcamins        gaetan_B: you have to set the order of the alphabet in the Zebra configuration file.
14:26 cait           i don't remember where the person was from. hm.
14:26 cait           there was an email to the list recently how to change that
14:26 kivilahtio     ö is a pure letter, it is not accented
14:26 cait           kivilahtio: it depends on configuration
14:26 gaetan_B       i see
14:26 kivilahtio     yes
14:26 gaetan_B       but maybe ö is considered a totally different letter for you ? instead of an accented letter like é is to e for us ?
14:25 kivilahtio     I cannot give you any answers but magnus_away sure can
14:25 gaetan_B       so that in french you can search for casse instead of cassé and still get an answer (which a lot of people want usually)
14:25 gaetan_B       it's different thought i think this is because zebra will transliterrat ö to o
14:24 gaetan_B       :D
14:24 kivilahtio     we just searched for "Rölli" and got Rolling Stones
14:24 gaetan_B       is it the same in suomi ?
14:24 kivilahtio     I hope so
14:24 gaetan_B       is there a way to change this ?
14:24 kivilahtio     :D
14:24 gaetan_B       but zebra will sort them between a and b
14:24 kivilahtio     vwxyzåäö
14:23 kivilahtio     sh007
14:23 gaetan_B       in swedish, letters like ä belong to the end of the alphabet
14:23 gaetan_B       i have a question for our nordic friends here, maybe kivilahtio will have an idea ? i wanted to ask magnus_away
14:11 kivilahtio     Is there a automated mechanism for claiming items? Set Item missing/lost, add a fine to a borrower based on the items.replacementprice?
14:00 druthb         hi. :)
13:59 mtompset       Greetings, druthb. ;)
13:59 mtompset       Greetings, #koha.
12:24 drojf          is git really slow or is that just me?
12:16 marcelr        hi kivilahtio
12:16 kivilahtio     hi marcelr
12:13 drojf          hi marcelr
12:12 marcelr        hi drojf
12:02 drojf          hi #koha
11:51 francharb      good morning
10:31 cait           <<today>> like you wrote, but not in all yet i think
10:31 cait           kivilahtio: in some of the notices it's supported
09:56 kivilahtio     <<today>> ?
09:54 kivilahtio     I mean when Modifying Notices?
09:53 kivilahtio     when defining print labes, is it possible to use the current date as a parameter
08:28 gaetan_B       hello
08:15 wahanui        what's up, Joubu
08:15 Joubu          hi
08:04 marcelr        hi matts
08:02 cait           hi matts :)
08:02 matts          hi
07:57 marcelr        :)
07:57 cait           hi marcelr
07:57 marcelr        hi #koha
07:51 wahanui        hola, alex_a
07:51 alex_a         bonjour
07:49 reiveune       hello
07:18 mtompset       Have a great day, #koha
06:33 * mtompset     is trying out perlbrew for the first time ever using CentOS 5.10 :)
05:56 Oak            cool
05:56 Oak            hmm
05:56 cait           also someone of the US librairans might know
05:56 cait           i mean count them...and google
05:56 wahanui        google is not a web browser, it's an advertising company with a pretty good search engine.
05:56 Oak            google?
05:56 cait           you could look at an older year and try to find the issues
05:56 Oak            okay
05:55 cait           not sure
05:55 cait           hm
05:55 Oak            it's not written on it as far as i can tell
05:55 Oak            how do i find volume and issue number of say reader's digest?
05:55 Oak            oh one specific question
05:54 cait           it will be alright :)
05:54 Oak            heh :)
05:53 Oak            no worries, i'll ask when i am ready.
05:53 cait           and i just woke up :)
05:53 Oak            yes i know :) sorry.
05:53 cait           it's a bit hard to answer as a general question
05:53 Oak            i know.
05:53 Oak            i'll finish the manual, and snything i can find, then i'll ask you guys.
05:53 cait           15 is not much
05:53 cait           ah
05:52 Oak            need to catalogue about 15 serials' subscriptions. will leave the back issues.
05:52 Oak            reading it: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.14/en/serials.html
05:52 cait           what do you need/wnat to do?
05:51 cait           hm you chcked nicole's manual?
05:51 Oak            and this: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Analytics
05:51 Oak            any pointers, links, anything on how to manage serials in Koha? so far I am reading this: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/Cataloguing-serials-td4264662.html
05:50 cait           hm yes
05:50 Oak            got 5 minutes?
05:50 cait           hi Oak
05:50 Oak            hello cait
05:39 mtompset       Okay... CentOS 5.10 installed... just to see what the state of CentOS is. :)
04:41 Oak            kia ora #koha
04:41 Oak            hello dcook :)
04:40 dcook          hey Oak
04:39 * Oak          waves
04:37 dcook          I think chocolate is on the menu for tonight in an attempt to forget about bureaucracy (amongst other things)
04:37 dcook          Sounds about right to me.
04:36 mtompset       God created life. Satan created paperwork.
04:35 mtompset       Why oh why do we need to have paperwork for everything in life?
04:35 mtompset       Trying to avoid more paperwork, but I need to get back to it.
04:32 wahanui        You are not the first to ask that question
04:32 dcook          You?
04:32 dcook          :p
04:32 dcook          You have no idea
04:29 mtompset       Anything interesting happening with you?
04:29 mtompset       Greetings, dcook.
02:05 dcook          They'd also be available in the IRC logs
02:05 dcook          If you're curious, the minutes should be posted on the website
02:04 Bruce_         Oh well, saved myself a half hour. See you next month!
02:04 Bruce_         Yup. I did miscalculate the time. Bother.
02:04 dcook          The next one being 5 March
02:04 dcook          I think the last meeting was actually around 24 hours ago?
02:03 dcook          Right now is... 6 February 2014 02:00 UTC
02:03 dcook          I do believe so
02:02 Bruce_         Sorry, I thought now was 1800 on 5 Feb -- time for the meeting. Did I miscalculate the hour?
02:02 dcook          What time might you be thinking of, Bruce_?
02:01 dcook          Error. Does not compute.
02:01 Bruce_         Or is it just me and two dozen sleeping bots?
02:00 Bruce_         Is it time?