Time Nick Message
23:56 jcamins I mean, did what I said make sense, not the way it behaves.
23:55 jcamins Does that make sense?
23:53 jcamins Which is why use is weird to me.
23:53 jcamins But not recompiled.
23:53 jcamins So that code will get rerun per request.
23:53 jcamins Basically, starting at line 29, that entire file is wrapped in sub __plack_tools_calendar.pl_SILLYNONSENSETHATMAKESNOSENSETOANYONEOTHERTHANTHECOMPILER { ... }
23:52 jcamins Hint: there's no such thing as file scope under CGIBin.
23:52 jcamins Starting at line 29, what scope are declarations?
23:51 jcamins We'll ignore use statements for now because I still don't understand how they work.
23:50 jcamins Skip to line 29, after the use statements.
23:50 jcamins Right, so here's where the way we use Plack makes things confusing.
23:49 pianohacker I'm trying to excise the given/whens while doing it a bit more nicely than an if/else chain
23:49 rangi nice
23:49 pianohacker jcamins: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/page.cgi?id=splinter.html&bug=8133&attachment=19326 , tools/calendar.pl
23:48 jcamins Thanks.
23:48 pianohacker It's all of the holidays code cleaned up and put in a single .pl, let me get you a link
23:48 jcamins And you are required to picture me jumping up and down and pointing at the code after it's been written on a whiteboard.
23:47 jcamins I'll point to it for my explanation.
23:47 jcamins Point out the admin script?
23:47 pianohacker Even for scalars?
23:47 jcamins If there's no explicit subroutine in the .pl file, you can treat the *entire file* as a sub.
23:46 jcamins In that case, don't use our.
23:46 jcamins pianohacker: in a .pl file?
23:46 pianohacker jcamins: I'm using a hash of anonymous subs as a replacement for a switch statement, so I don't think that's an option (it's the usual set of code blocks for each 'op' in an admin script)
23:45 rangi hehe
23:44 pianohacker haha wat
23:44 bag well rangi besides the form of life known as pianohacker
23:44 jcamins pianohacker: if you can avoid using our by putting your variables in an explicit subroutine, please do.
23:43 rangi speedy little buggers
23:43 rangi and after this, i can see why
23:43 rangi bacteria are the single most effective form of life
23:43 bag about the crazyness (and plack to I guess)
23:42 bag damn man rangi
23:41 rangi which messes with scope of variables
23:41 rangi (this is not how you should really use plack of course this is just a zillion times easier than writing our scripts to work natively under it)
23:40 rangi is that it wraps every script in a subroutine
23:40 rangi is the way we are using plack
23:39 rangi what happens
23:39 rangi dcook: we are using them as a bit of a hack, the way we are using them isnt really desirable
23:39 wizzyrea :( that is, in fact, balls.
23:39 rangi if the pain hasnt subsided by tomorrow i have to go back
23:39 * dcook thought "ours" weren't desirable
23:39 rangi wizzyrea: stopped growing, hopefully will start shrinking & hurting less soon
23:38 pianohacker rangi: Yeah, realized I need to make these ours or local ours
23:38 wizzyrea oh rangi, is it feeling any better at all?
23:37 pianohacker amen...
23:37 rangi ps cellulitis is balls
23:37 rangi however it may well cause the cgi emulation thingy we are using with plack problems
23:37 rangi it wont cause plack any
23:26 pianohacker wait, would that cause Plack problems?
23:26 pianohacker understandable. Guess I'll do the usual hash of anonymous subs then
23:26 gmcharlt absent a very strong argument that the syntax sugar is necessary, not just a preference
23:25 gmcharlt TBH, not unless one of them becomes a core module
23:25 pianohacker (or one of the similar CPAN modules)
23:24 pianohacker gmcharlt: feelings about http://search.cpan.org/~mauke/Switch-Plain-0.02/lib/Switch/Plain.pm ?
23:24 pianohacker absolutely
23:23 gmcharlt I also view it as an object lession is the risk of trying to be too fancy
23:22 gmcharlt pianohacker: I sympathize
23:22 dcook thanks
23:22 gmcharlt dcook: 5.10
23:22 pianohacker "I know smartmatch is complicated as hell, but I don't want it, just given/when"
23:22 dcook What's the minimum version of Perl that Koha supports?
23:22 pianohacker it would be really nice to have a rock-stupid version for just basic string-comparison-switch
23:21 dcook ^^
23:21 pianohacker gmcharlt: curses, yeah, that makes sense, given http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Experimental-Details-on-given-and-when
23:21 gmcharlt and hope that the next time the pumpkin-crew try to implement a switch statement, it actually works
23:21 * dcook had a feeling that might be the sitch
23:21 gmcharlt so, don't use it, remove them if you see them
23:20 gmcharlt pianohacker: given/when is no good, alas, given the smartmatch mess in Perl
23:20 * dcook knows that he has used "goto" sometime in the past few months, but cannot remember where...
23:20 pianohacker probably. gmcharlt: around?
23:20 mtompset Yes, looks like a very useful thing though.
23:20 * dcook thinks this is likely a gmcharlt question
23:19 pianohacker waaaaaaaarnin's
23:19 pianohacker [Tue Jan 28 15:49:41 2014] calendar.pl: when is experimental at /home/feoh3/p/koha/tools/calendar.pl line 201
23:19 pianohacker It's pretty awesome, but guess what, mtompset?
23:19 mtompset Let's avoid that in the base code.
23:18 mtompset *cringe* "experimental"
23:18 dcook pianohacker: I didn't even know Perl could do that!
23:18 dcook http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsyn.html#Switch-Statements
23:18 mtompset What do you mean given/when? in template toolkit?
23:15 pianohacker is there a policy on using given/when, given the warnings it triggers?
22:39 tcohen ah, thanks
22:39 cait tcohen: i think he might be home - see facebook
22:38 dani ha, wrong window
22:38 tcohen around?
22:38 tcohen rangi aroung?
22:38 huginn dani: The operation succeeded.
22:38 dani @later tell meliss last ticket for Bennington cleared up. They can go into support.
22:25 tcohen vacation auto-gift http://www.hanxo.com/en/productos/parlantes/2_0/blake.html
21:56 * cait takes the cookies away
21:52 pianohacker jcamins: I owe you and gmcharlt a beer or something for the number of rock-stupid things you've helped me with
21:52 rhcl well, ya gotta dip 'em in milk first, then they won't hurt
21:51 * pianohacker cries
21:51 * pianohacker tries to eat cookies, shoves them all in eye
21:50 * cait sends more cookies
21:50 pianohacker jesus christ.
21:49 pianohacker My brain was stuck on "This is how it worked in old bugzilla, but things are different, I can't do it that way now"
21:49 cait and not the last
21:49 cait i think you are not the first to ask that question
21:48 pianohacker thank you both...
21:48 pianohacker [off] I found it, I do not know why I have been so persistently goddamn oblivious
21:48 cait also you have a pm from me :P
21:48 pianohacker cait++
21:48 cait not using oneof the three links at the end, but the link on the title
21:48 wahanui cait is probably a bit worried about lumping all code into a single file a sa first step
21:48 pianohacker cait??
21:48 pianohacker jcamins++
21:48 cait pianohacker: or click on the subject/title - that brings you directly to the 'raw' version
21:48 pianohacker Gaahhhh
21:47 jcamins No need to click details. Just click the name of the file.
21:47 * cait nods
21:47 jcamins And use git stash.
21:47 pianohacker Oh, you click details then view at the bottom! That's what I was missing. Dammit
21:47 jcamins For example, `wget -O bug_11096.patch http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=24492`
21:46 jcamins Just use wget.
21:46 jcamins pianohacker: same way you always downloaded the patch.
21:46 cait i don't see a reason why it would not work now
21:46 pianohacker cait: that's how it used to work, but I think you just have to copy and paste now
21:46 cait ithink that's how i did it... but it's been a whlie
21:45 cait wget this link
21:45 cait click on the patch subject
21:45 pianohacker I am entirely willing to believe I'm blind.
21:45 pianohacker And I can't find a way to download a .patch anymore.
21:44 pianohacker jcamins: I have uncommitted changes, is the other part. It's easy enough to commit, rebase -i, etc, just hoping for a way to do it quickly in situations like this
21:44 cait that would be 'the old way'
21:44 cait or you can just download it and do a git am -iu3 file
21:44 wizzyrea ok byeeee ttyl
21:44 cait if you want only one specific patch in a series
21:43 * wizzyrea only answers what is asked
21:43 cait pianohacker: you can do git bz apply and then choose the i option
21:43 pianohacker bye, thanks wizzyrea
21:43 wizzyrea well yea
21:43 wizzyrea but now I have to go to a meeting.
21:43 jcamins wizzyrea: right, if you want to do two steps. ;)
21:43 wizzyrea <.<
21:43 wizzyrea >.>
21:43 pianohacker oh! hi, hahahaha
21:43 * wizzyrea waves
21:43 pianohacker how do you do that in bugzilla?
21:42 pudding or just download the thing and apply it
21:42 jcamins But if wizzyrea wrote the patch but not the others that are being squashed, the patches should be kept separate anyway.
21:42 jcamins git bz apply 8133.
21:42 jcamins To squash patches, you use git rebase -i HEAD^^^
21:42 pianohacker I am squashing it, yes, and what you're describing would work. I just don't know how to download the patch :)
21:41 jcamins pianohacker: git apply will apply the patch. If it doesn't apply, you're SOL either way.
21:41 pudding maybe I don't understand what exactly you're trying to do
21:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11211 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, NEW , Move calculation code out of C4::Calendar
21:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8133 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed
21:41 pianohacker here, context. I'm trying to roll wizzyrea's patch on bug 8133 into the broken-out patch for bug 11211
21:41 pudding basically you're just squashing it yea?
21:41 tcohen don't u have to do both actually?
21:40 pianohacker applying it and rebasing it is more work than just downloading the patch and using git apply, is that really the only way?
21:40 tcohen git_rebase_interactive++
21:40 mtompset You can use it to drop an old version of the bug and git bz the newer version. ;)
21:40 pudding you can drop it's commit message and roll it back with the other stuff with rebase -i
21:40 mtompset git rebase -i is really cool! :)
21:40 pudding yea that's fine
21:39 tcohen mtompset: indeed
21:39 pianohacker It's a small bugfix patch that's being rolled into one part of a broken-up patch
21:39 jcamins Lots of sugar and chocolate.
21:39 cait sounds reasonable to me too
21:39 mtompset So, you are on vacation?
21:39 mtompset Greetings, tcohen.
21:39 jcamins I recommend pudding's approach.
21:39 pudding naw, just apply it normally
21:38 pianohacker step 1: How to get the patch? Copy and paste the raw into a file?
21:38 tcohen hi eythian mtompset
21:38 cait pudding: why are you pudding? :)
21:38 pudding dropping it's commit message in the process
21:38 pudding with the other stuff
21:38 pudding you can rebase -i and roll it up
21:38 cait and then a git commit --amend?
21:38 cait then do a git reset --soft
21:38 pudding well you do want to commit it
21:38 cait what about applying it
21:38 cait hm
21:37 pianohacker I am failing at what seems like a simple task. I have a patch on a bug that I want to apply, but not commit, as I want to roll it into an existing set of changes
21:34 mtompset oh well.
21:34 mtompset koha planning?
21:34 mtompset C4::Koha planning?
21:30 wahanui http://i.imgur.com/uGHA6u0.gif
21:30 pianohacker C4::Koha?
21:30 pianohacker oh, nothing. Just documenting facts
21:30 mtompset So, what are you planning for C4::Koha?
21:29 pianohacker you heard me
21:29 wahanui pianohacker: excuse me?
21:29 pianohacker wahanui ain't that smart
21:29 mtompset planning C4::Koha?
21:27 wahanui OK, pianohacker.
21:27 pianohacker wahanui: C4::Koha is <reply>http://i.imgur.com/uGHA6u0.gif
21:26 pianohacker hahaha nice
21:24 wahanui okay, eythian.
21:24 eythian no wahanui, planning is <reply>http://imgur.com/WGDg5KB
21:24 wahanui ...but planning is still going on, but there are lots of people signed up so it will happen!...
21:24 eythian wahanui: planning is <reply>http://imgur.com/WGDg5KB
21:23 rhcl hihi
21:23 cait hi eythian
21:17 eythian hi
21:02 mtompset serves me right for trying to install a beta driver while using a VM with 3D whatever it was enabled.
21:01 pianohacker the whole making your hardware work seems to be an inconvenient bug from their perspective
21:01 pianohacker that's what drivers do
20:58 mtompset And that driver went kaboom.
20:52 tcohen s
20:52 tcohen basically because they didn't have the right count of bib
20:50 tcohen cait, I saw those errors in a previous patch series
20:29 mtompset REBOOT!
20:27 oleonard Bye #koha
20:04 cait tcohen: http://paste.koha-community.org/99
20:04 mtompset Ah, redirecting stderr and stdout to a file. :)
19:59 cait let's see if it works
19:59 cait search.t takes a bit
19:58 cait thx :)
19:58 tcohen 2> file 1>&2
19:57 cait trying to write the results to a file
19:57 cait not sure what it's doing
19:57 cait hm
19:56 tcohen I think having the full log might help. yes
19:56 tcohen i can tell I generated Squeeze and Ubuntu 12.04 VM to run the tests on, which did successfuly
19:55 tcohen ok
19:53 cait i will give you the full output of the tests
19:53 cait tcohen: let's try something
19:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Koha cannot retrieve big records from Zebra
19:52 cait is($results_hashref->{biblioserver}->{hits}, 1, "can do a search that retrieves an over-large bib record (bug 11096)");
19:52 cait even the first on line 831
19:51 cait all those tests fail
19:51 cait i copied only the last error
19:51 cait ah
19:51 cait hm
19:48 cait i have you test records in my database, should that make a difference?
19:48 cait i think git should show it?
19:48 cait hm i don't think so
19:47 tcohen cait, is it possible that you have a modified version of t/db_dependent/data/marc21/zebraexport/large_biblio_
19:42 tcohen yeah, have the same options actually
19:41 pianohacker sorry about that, the search prefs are a hot mess...
19:41 cait looks pretty standard
19:41 cait don't include, don't use, automatically, try, try, enable, don't force, don't include, not using, do not try
19:40 cait when you look at the search prefs:
19:40 tcohen I mean, I tried lots of combinations with no luck
19:39 cait hm
19:39 tcohen with a default setup I cannot reproduce it
19:39 tcohen cait: it must be some scenario the tests don't explicitly cover (sysprefs I guess)
19:36 cait tcohen: maybe some more clues: http://paste.koha-community.org/98
19:34 cait hmmmm
19:34 pianohacker good excuse for a change of scenery
19:34 pianohacker heh, some numbnut just bumped the alarm in the kitche
19:33 cait tcohen: mostly to see if it the database... or maybe something else?
19:30 tcohen good luck pianohacker !!!
19:30 pianohacker dammit fire alarm brb
19:30 tcohen the failing tests are MARC21 tests
19:30 cait tcohen: i wanted to try it on the unimarc databaes first
19:29 mtompset (with respect to holiday)
19:29 mtompset pianohacker: Why are there so many cursed delete_{blah} functions in the old code?!
19:29 tcohen cait: remebeer to give me your dev DB to try to reproduce your problem
19:07 pianohacker just trying to give you an idea of why I went all scorched-earth
19:07 cait too risky
19:07 pianohacker cait: take a look at C4::Calendar::delete_holiday
18:56 huginn mtompset: blou was last seen in #koha 5 days, 23 hours, 43 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <blou> I'll explore that. Thanks a LOT!
18:56 mtompset @seen blou
18:56 huginn mtompset: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
18:56 mtompset @see blou
18:56 mtompset blou? *ping*
18:34 pianohacker cait: thanks. trying to make the best out of something that would have had to have been made as a patch series from the beginning
18:33 tcohen awesome
18:32 cait how is vacation? :)
18:32 cait hi tcohen
18:32 cait don't take me serious,just not having the best week
18:32 tcohen hi cait
18:31 cait i will leave you to it... and ask someone else to qa :P
18:31 pianohacker cait: It would be possible, but a lot of work. I'm submitting code that is suboptimal, but the actual 8133 patch will true it up, and it does at least work reasonably well
18:30 mtompset http://youtu.be/I0i-whGHf-Y
18:30 cait why not fix the backend step by step to support the current feature set and enhance on that?
18:28 pianohacker (kept the template, praise ye oleonard, but the backend was a mess)
18:27 pianohacker At some point in making the hourly loans code, I just tossed the entire diseased mess of the old admin page out the window, so I'm trying not to undo too much of my own work in the process of splitting up the patch
18:27 cait why?
18:26 cait oh
18:26 pianohacker cait: Well, partially. :) I'm making C4::Calendar have an API that matches the new calendar setup but interacts with the old DB layout, so there's some ugly emulation code.
18:25 cait or eyes...?
18:25 cait pianohacker: was that for qa ears?
18:25 tcohen hi there!
18:24 pianohacker Nobody was supposed to know about the monads! :(
18:24 jcamins pianohacker: "WARNING: may cause irrational and highly inappropriate urges regarding monads."
18:22 pianohacker At this point, I'm submitting an entire module full of code that has to be marked "Warning: This is only for temporary compatibility, and is not suitable for small children. Side effects may include existential angst and a perverse urge to learn Haskell."
18:21 pianohacker yay :)
18:21 * cait sends cookies
18:21 pianohacker pfft
18:21 cait aaaaah
18:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8133 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , hourly loans doesn't know when library closed
18:20 wahanui i guess bug 8133 is what started libsysguy's quest
18:20 cait bug 8133
18:20 mtompset That's worse than my 7567.
18:20 mtompset YIKES!
18:20 pianohacker 8133 is the bane of my existence
18:20 mtompset ah, okay.
18:19 pianohacker mtompset: not at the moment, sorry. I'm being snarky because I'm in the middle of breaking up a really thorny patch
18:19 mtompset pianohacker: want a small patch to sign off on? :)
18:16 pianohacker logical break points? so one patch per word?
18:16 mtompset that sort of thing.
18:16 mtompset one patch per logical break point: bootstrap changes, prog changes, program changes.
18:15 mtompset NO!
18:15 pianohacker one patch per line of code?
18:14 * pianohacker makes note to break up future patches for ease of testing
18:10 mtompset Also depressing... I'm working hard at sign offs, and yet the number of things needing signoffs stays relatively constant.
18:09 mtompset i fear I'll drop back to #5 shortly.
18:09 mtompset Doing pretty good. #3 in sign offs for January. :)
18:09 mtompset NOOOO! Don't forget me when I'm gone. :P
18:08 wahanui mtompset: I forgot you
18:08 mtompset wahanui: forget you
18:08 wahanui mtompset: excuse me?
18:08 mtompset wahanui: forgot you
18:08 wahanui you is, like, smart
18:08 pianohacker you?
18:08 pianohacker decent, busy as hell with school but decent
18:07 mtompset How are you?
18:07 mtompset yo yo yo pianohacker? ;)
18:07 pianohacker yo
17:53 huginn mtompset: msaby was last seen in #koha 14 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, 14 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <msaby> cait:so if I understant, if these fields are not harmful, better not touching it...
17:53 mtompset @seen msaby
17:53 oleonard msaby I think?
17:52 mtompset is matts_away the same person, oleonard?
17:51 mtompset ^thing^think^
17:51 mtompset Seeing prog/en also makes me thing OPAC, even when it is intranet-tmpl.
17:50 mtompset You're right.
17:50 mtompset I must be in a daze.
17:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11027 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Signed Off , add a column for basketgroups in late orders table
17:50 oleonard If you're talking about the patch for Bug 11027 mtompset that's not mine
17:13 mtompset AH! Must close with the basket group.
17:11 mtompset ARG! I can't reproduce the magical incantation.
17:05 mtompset EEEEEW! I just looked at it without the patch. Thank you, oleonard! That's a massive improvement.
17:01 mtompset Now to reproduce them, so I can make a fuller TEST PLAN.
17:01 mtompset I figured out the magical incantations to do it.
17:00 mtompset I finally tested it, oleonard.
17:00 mtompset YAY!
16:55 mtompset BTW, it seems weird to give staff access and acquisition access, but then log in and get told I can't access that page.
16:53 mtompset okay... *whew* wrong branch.
16:51 reiveune bye
16:50 mtompset HMMM?! What do you mean there's no late orders?!
16:29 mtompset (i.e. Needs Signoff)
16:29 mtompset blou: -- you forgot to change the bug status.
16:16 cait i had problems with search.t
16:16 wahanui rumour has it maybe is a momentaneous error
16:16 cait maybe?
16:16 cait oleonard: hm looks like a new dependency
16:07 oleonard Cannot detect source of 't'! at /usr/share/perl/5.14/TAP/Parser/IteratorFactory.pm line 263
16:07 mtompset Yes.
16:06 oleonard For a more verbose error message?
16:06 mtompset I usually include -v :)
16:06 oleonard prove t xt
16:06 cait which test oleonard? because i had problems too recently
16:03 oleonard Did something change in the way Koha does tests? New dependency? I'm getting errors from running the prove command
16:02 mtompset YAY! I got data.
16:00 cait because by default it will not look for a order orderd today.. that would not be really late :) but i think you can make it work with 0 days or something iirc
15:59 cait you order it, you close the basket.... you adjust the filters on late orders so it matches.
15:59 oleonard mtompset: I hope you're not saying that someone is being secretive about how acquisitions works
15:58 cait a late order is something you didn't get...
15:58 cait well that won't work
15:58 mtompset should I close BEFORE received?
15:58 mtompset oh, I closed after received.
15:58 mtompset closed and still nothing.
15:56 cait only closed orders count as ordered - else they are still open for adding new order lines
15:56 mtompset if I don't know it, it must be mystically acquired knowledge.
15:56 cait yes you need to lcose it
15:56 oleonard Hunh? Secretive?
15:56 mtompset This is the silly "secretive library stuff" thing I was saying I didn't want. :P
15:55 mtompset I received it today... and... still nothing.
15:54 mtompset It isn't in a basket group.
15:54 mtompset It isn't closed.
15:53 mtompset 't been received.
15:53 mtompset It hasn
15:53 mtompset I found an entry with a date of 2012-06-21
15:53 mtompset I went into acquisitions, and did a search for a vendor.
15:52 oleonard mtompset: You would need some existing orders, yes.
15:52 mtompset still nothing. Perhaps I should attempt placing an order?
15:51 cait and add 0 for the days since or something like that
15:51 cait try unsetting the date filter
15:51 oleonard cait++
15:51 cait if i am around
15:50 cait oleonard: i can help mst of the time
15:50 oleonard I think it has to do with "estimated delivery date?"
15:50 oleonard mtompset: I share your frustration with trying to figure out how to trigger some of these acquisitions pages. Sometimes it requires tracking down the SQL that generates the page contents
15:47 mtompset So, oleonard (or anyone) how do I trigger something that will show up in late orders?
15:44 mtompset Well, you have to get blaming the president in there somewhere. ;)
15:42 oleonard My favorite part of that image is Florida
15:41 mtompset Nice link, oleonard. :)
15:39 mtompset I can get to the late order screen, but without actual data to show, it's pointless.
15:39 mtompset oleonard: I'd like to test that patch, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to trigger a late order.
15:38 * mtompset blames the pollution coming up the jet stream from the USA. :P
15:38 druthb oleonard++
15:37 oleonard https://twitter.com/vmstan/status/427989653723955200/photo/1
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15:18 * druthb blames mtompset
15:18 oleonard Dear Canada: Please stop sending weather. Thanks.
15:11 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -15.1°C (10:11 AM EST on January 28, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -20.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
15:11 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5
14:56 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 0.0°C (8:56 AM CST on January 28, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon CST today...
14:56 druthb @wunder 77098
14:56 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -15.4°C (8:55 AM CST on January 28, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.57 in 1035 hPa (Rising).
14:56 rhcl @wunder 64507
14:46 druthb o/
13:12 paxed also, just noticed that in tab 0 the subfield letter is not bold, but in the other tabs it is in bold.
13:10 oleonard Okay thanks
13:08 paxed MARCdetail.pl
13:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Impossible to style MARC display via CSS
13:07 oleonard What page does Bug 11624 refer to?
13:07 paxed yes?
13:07 oleonard paxed here?
12:52 kivilahtio so very safe
12:51 petter yea, they can be a bit tense in that region!
12:50 kivilahtio and people had assault rifles ;)
12:50 kivilahtio + food was good
12:50 kivilahtio so yeah ! :)
12:50 kivilahtio not a drop of rain
12:50 wahanui rumour has it perfect is the enemy of good
12:50 petter perfect!
12:50 kivilahtio 29 deg max, around 25 deg
12:49 petter sunny
12:49 petter aha, cool
12:49 kivilahtio Israel
12:49 kivilahtio Eilat
12:49 kivilahtio visited Petra, Dead Sea, Masada. Lots of stuff
12:49 petter where did you go?
12:49 petter wow
12:49 kivilahtio we rode with Camels in the desert night
12:49 petter great
12:49 kivilahtio awsome!
12:49 petter How was your vacation, olli?
12:49 kivilahtio nice to hear :)
12:49 petter hard to say
12:49 petter maybe more less than more?
12:49 petter its good, more or less
12:49 kivilahtio how is life?
12:48 kivilahtio how is life
12:48 oleonard Hi petter
12:48 kivilahtio hi petter!
12:48 petter hi folks!
12:44 oleonard I guess we're lucky there's no wind at the moment.
12:43 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Windy Ridge, Athens, Ohio is -25.0°C (7:43 AM EST on January 28, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -33.0°C. Windchill: -25.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Rising). Wind chill warning in effect until 1 PM EST this afternoon...
12:43 oleonard @wunder 45701
12:35 cait with different sizes, i just can't remember how that works
12:35 cait there is a special lable that is 2 labels
12:35 cait kivilahtio: hm actually there was functionality for that back in the old module
12:25 Oak later guys
12:25 Oak kivilahtio++
12:16 kivilahtio + Koha has already tons of great code to hack this functionality from :)
12:15 kivilahtio it is a really simple task and I can just add a new custom module to facilitate these label printings
12:15 kivilahtio but I think I will make a local modification to solve this issue
12:15 kivilahtio so this is not doable with the Koha's lable creator
12:14 kivilahtio 2x6 lables + 1x12 spine lables in one A4 sticker paper
12:14 kivilahtio we have two different label sizes on one paper
12:14 kivilahtio batches
12:14 cait it depends if you want to print batches or single labels
12:13 cait the other label print is pdf, so i think css is not possible there
12:13 cait quick spine label pritn = html
12:12 cait not sure for the labels
12:12 cait i think for the quick editor yes
12:11 kivilahtio I was wondering if we could style the labels with css?
12:11 kivilahtio Wow, the Koha's built in label creator looks pretty great!
10:20 kivilahtio the jQuery libraries are loaded in the end of the HTML document
10:20 kivilahtio ok I got it
10:08 kivilahtio not even jQuery(document).ready() is defined
10:08 kivilahtio my script file is below the jQuery-files in the html source
10:08 kivilahtio thus $(document).ready(function() { THROWS Uncaught ReferenceError: $ is not defined
10:07 kivilahtio If I directly include <script type="javascript" src="..."> a javascript file in the bootstrap -> opac-detail.tt, I can't access jQuery functions? Everybody else seems to be using .inc files to include .js files?
09:34 kivilahtio was there a super easyway of calling the system preferences directly from the .tt files?
09:28 kivilahtio can I just add a componentParts.js file to bootstrap/js/ and include it in the template if systempreference is ok
09:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, Failed QA , Show the parent record's component parts in the detailed views.
09:27 kivilahtio I am modifyin the opac-detail.tt for the bootstrap theme regarding bug 11175. I need a small script of javascript to set the height of a container to match the height of a neighbouring container
09:25 kivilahtio hmm separate files..
09:24 kivilahtio is there a general guide for that?
09:23 kivilahtio In the bootstrap theme where do I put my feature dependent javascript files?
09:21 Oak Guten morgen cait
09:20 Oak kia ora #koha
08:26 sophie_m hi #koha
08:24 nlegrand Hey !
07:40 reiveune hello
07:13 cait time to go to work - bbl
06:51 rangi which sends mail, using whatever mta you have listening on port 25 (or even other ports if you want to configure it)
06:51 rangi http://search.cpan.org/~mivkovic/Mail-Sendmail-0.79/Sendmail.pm#sendmail%28%29 is called
06:49 rangi its not
06:43 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
06:42 mtompset I think I best call it a night.
06:42 mtompset I do find it yucky that sendmail is called directly.
06:41 mtompset Yep... busted email configuration in this VM...
06:32 mtompset I bet my mailing configuration is busted or something.
06:32 mtompset oh joys... "Problem sending the list"
06:30 cait the difference is in sending it from staff or from opac
06:30 cait it shouldn't matter
06:30 mtompset so private list or public list, cait, for 5010?
06:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11623 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Errors with upgrade from 3.00.00.070 to 3.14.02.000
06:29 mtompset got distracted by bug 11623 -- someone complaining that upgrading from 3.0.x to 3.14.x didn't work.
06:22 cait but that has happened..
06:22 cait would be kind of embarassing if it didn't
06:22 mtompset passes qa tool. :)
06:21 mtompset upgrade: system preference created. :)
06:19 mtompset fresh install: system preference created. :)
06:16 mtompset BTW, you have some whitespace errors in the merging.
06:15 mtompset one in intranet and one in opac, right?
06:13 dcook laterz
06:13 dcook night for me
06:11 cait and be aware we have 2 sendbasket
06:11 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=23457
06:10 cait might be a conflict
06:10 cait i only adda lock in sendbasket
06:10 cait if you look at te patches
06:10 cait hm not really
06:09 mtompset yours removes that block.
06:09 mtompset the first one adds a block.
06:09 mtompset sendbasket.pl
06:09 cait hm no they should not
06:09 * mtompset cringes.
06:08 mtompset oh... wait... your patches require the previous one.
06:05 cait but yeah, I think it's either or
06:04 cait i was proposing an alternate solution
06:04 cait if you think the last 2 are better obsolte the first :)
06:04 mtompset So, cait. If I was going to look at trying to sign off 5010, should I attempt the first one, or the last two? And if the last two, perhaps I should obsolete the first one?
06:02 mtompset I don't see any reason currently for an OPAC link going to staff.
06:01 mtompset Yes, but a system preference between staff to OPAC seems like a reasonable thing.
05:59 dcook Yeah, it's one of those things that can't really have a perfect solution
05:59 mtompset YIKES! Bad grammer and spelting, mesa need to sleep.
05:59 dcook Seems like it :p
05:59 mtompset Don't worry, dcook. You're name was only being taken in vain for horrific reasons. ;)
05:58 dcook Hmm?
05:55 cait probably true
05:54 mtompset With the access to system preferences from within the Template, there is no need to build them in the .pl
05:54 mtompset actually, cait....
05:54 cait sometimes it seems quite too hard to get small things like that right
05:53 cait I am hoping maybe dcook makes i ta bit better
05:53 cait it seemed a little better than hardcoding http
05:53 cait there might still be something wrong with the patches... :)
05:53 mtompset Not the happiest way of doing it, but a reasonably good one.
05:53 mtompset Okay, the system preference makes good sense now.
05:52 cait so i did that
05:52 cait gmcharlt advised on the sys pref as a possible solution
05:52 cait i tried to make it work a bit better, not claiming on having the perfect solution
05:52 mtompset yes, yes it is.
05:52 cait this whole url topic is a bit messy
05:52 cait yeah, then they wouldn't need to run https in OPAC really
05:51 cait i think it might be that people run staff in https and opac not... although they shouldn't
05:51 mtompset case of no logins in OPAC?
05:51 cait not really
05:51 mtompset but it would seem strange to have difference between staff and OPAC.
05:51 mtompset DOH! You're right.
05:50 cait it won't work from the intranet if you try to figure out what to use for the OPAC link
05:50 mtompset doesn't something like that work?
05:50 mtompset CGI->https() ? "https://" : "http://"
05:50 cait because there i sno way to determine that from the intranet for the OPAC
05:49 cait yes
05:49 mtompset ... just a second let me find that...
05:49 mtompset You actually create a system preference for https vs. http.
05:49 cait yes?
05:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5010 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Incomplete links in carts and lists sent from the staff client
05:49 mtompset cait: I was wondering about bug 5010
05:45 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
05:45 mtompset @later tell tcohen 10580 -- I was thinking perhaps the fixing the indentation could be a separate commit? (http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Refactoring_code)
05:44 cait morning mtompset
05:44 mtompset Greetings, cait.
05:01 brendan_ heya
05:01 mtompset Greetings, brendan_.
05:00 brendan_ evening
04:59 mtompset all zeros.
04:59 mtompset Patron -> person who I know has something checked out -> choose the biblio checked out -> items tab -> view checkout history
04:58 mtompset Why are my checked out items not listed?!
04:58 mtompset Hmmm...
03:44 mtompset There we go. ;)
03:44 mtompset oh shut it?
03:43 wahanui http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=RB-SHUTUP-MUG&Category_Code=DRINKWARE
03:43 mtompset shut up?
03:43 wahanui http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=RB-SHUTUP-MUG&Category_Code=DRINKWARE
03:43 mtompset shut up, wahanui.
03:43 mtompset So when will wahanui point to that link?
03:39 mtompset I've seen that episode before.
03:39 * mtompset laughs.
03:39 wahanui somebody said internet was http://youtu.be/iDbyYGrswtg
03:39 eythian internet
03:39 mtompset Where do you find this stuff, eythian?
03:38 wahanui OK, eythian.
03:38 eythian wahanui: shut up is <reply>http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=RB-SHUTUP-MUG&Category_Code=DRINKWARE
03:29 mtompset you just added 00?!
03:29 dcook :)
03:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11465 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Show counts and amounts on OPAC your summary tabs
03:28 dcook bug 11465
03:28 dcook 11465
03:28 dcook Yep, I got one, just a moment.
03:28 pudding naw, it's about the display of the fine descriptions.
03:28 wahanui mtompset is, like, catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry
03:28 dcook hey mtompset
03:23 mtompset secretive librarian knowledge. :P
03:22 pudding i have one out to do with fines.
03:21 pudding oh probably.
03:21 mtompset anyone have a bug they'd like signed off that doesn't require secretive librarian knowledge? ;)
03:21 * mtompset frowns, "Just when I was hoping to sign off 2 things. They both have problems."
03:19 * mtompset gets the shotgun to protect his brain from zombies. :P
03:19 pudding mmm pudding brain.
03:19 mtompset as in "my brain is pudding".
03:18 pudding it's tasty and doesn't have to know stuff.
03:18 mtompset Greetings, dcook.
03:18 mtompset because pudding is nice?
03:15 dcook pudding?
02:49 mtompset Glad you got what you needed working. :)
02:49 mtompset No problem.
02:48 schnydszch mtompset, sorry and thanks. cheers! :)
02:47 mtompset This isn't twitter.
02:47 mtompset You are putting @ in front.
02:47 huginn schnydszch: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
02:47 schnydszch @huginn just as soon as RDA is ready?
02:47 mtompset schnydszch: I wasn't talking about WHO. I was talking about type: MARCXML, MARC Unicode, MARc-8, BIBTEX, etc.
02:46 schnydszch cheers!
02:46 huginn schnydszch: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
02:46 schnydszch @mtompset, yep, i exported as admin. thanks
02:40 dcook Sure thing. See you tomorrow, ebegin :)
02:36 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -16.6°C (9:36 PM EST on January 27, 2014). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -22.0°C. Windchill: -23.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
02:36 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5
02:36 ebegin see you tomorrow !
02:36 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -16.0°C (9:00 PM EST on January 27, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -22.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
02:36 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec
02:35 ebegin just want to say hi ;-)
02:34 ebegin Hi guys
02:31 dcook hey, ebegin :)
02:31 mtompset Greetings, ebegin.
02:27 ebegin hey dcook :-)
02:26 mtompset I'm talking about the OPAC 'Save Record' drop down.
02:26 mtompset schnydszch: Only certain types of exports include the 999$c and $d.
01:28 schnydszch thanks. it was just an oversight :)
01:26 rangi seems to be working
01:26 rangi 999 _c100 _d100
01:26 rangi i just tested on 3.14.02
01:26 schnydszch i'll try again
01:25 wizzyrea nm then
01:25 eythian _d1
01:25 eythian 999 _c1
01:25 eythian it works already
01:25 eythian you don't
01:24 rangi works for me
01:24 wizzyrea afaik there is no syspref to say "export koha-internal fields"
01:24 wizzyrea I suspect you'd have to modify the export function to get this.
01:23 schnydszch trying to find if it's system preference, that it will include 999$c and $d in export
01:23 schnydszch I'm in 3.14
01:22 eythian Is what?
01:22 schnydszch i'm trying to find it
01:22 schnydszch is it in system preference?
01:21 schnydszch yep
01:20 eythian I'd expect it to be in 999$c and $d
01:17 schnydszch when I export right now, biblionumber is excluded
01:17 schnydszch Hello koha community! I can't seem find it, how do I export holdings that includes biblionumber
01:03 wizzyrea those two behaviours are controlled by syspref.
01:03 wizzyrea sometimes marking things lost causes the book to come off of the borrower's account
01:03 wizzyrea sometimes marking them lost causes the cost of the item to be charged
01:03 wizzyrea lost things don't usually accrue daily fines
01:03 wizzyrea that depends on your settings, but probably