Time  Nick         Message
23:58 pianohacker  why thank you dcook. And I'm just jumping back into the insanity of school
23:57 wahanui      You is smart
23:57 dcook        You?
23:57 dcook        heya pianohacker. Mmm, doin'. It's Friday, so that's a thing.
23:55 pianohacker  also hi, dcook and wizzyrea. How are you guys doing?
23:53 pianohacker  bad jokes since 2009â„¢
23:50 dcook        hehe
23:49 huginn       wizzyrea: 13 found: #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source...", #142: "Pianohacker: hrm. What's the plural of ILS...", #18: "<pianohacker> nitpicking synergy FTW", #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs...", #257: "<pianohacker> That code has enough smells to...", #258: "*pianohacker has written very good code with...", #266: "<pianohacker> dpkg is a wonderful thing once...", #271: (1 more message)
23:49 wizzyrea     @quote search pianohacker
23:48 pianohacker  a monument to my wit and sometimes questionable grammar
23:48 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #287 added.
23:48 wizzyrea     @quote add Pianohacker: the only sounds I've ever heard come out of Auth.pm are a nasty, wet splorch
23:47 dcook        pianohacker: It definitely sounds splorch-like
23:47 pianohacker  rangi: How are you doing? Was about to talk tickets, but I figure you probably have higher priorities atm. Is Laurel all right?
23:47 wizzyrea     curses.
23:47 huginn       wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:47 wizzyrea     @quote add Pianohacker: the only sounds I've ever heard come out of Auth.pm are a nasty, wet splorch
23:46 pianohacker  dcook: the only sounds I've ever heard come out of Auth.pm are a nasty, wet splorch
23:22 dcook        no sounds*
23:22 * dcook      pokes Auth.pm some more but sounds escape
23:15 rambutan     ok, well, occasional exception
23:15 * bag        makes a loud banging noise
23:14 rambutan     Really quiet today. Has been lately, in fact
23:13 * MrAgent075 is making quite the observation. No one is here...
23:09 MrAgent075   Hello all!
21:53 rambutan     good thing you were ready to sign off on it and not fail it
21:46 gmcharlt     :)
21:44 eythian      damnit, I was just about to sign off a patch. Turned out I'd written it in the first place.
21:43 eythian      hi
21:42 tcohen       bye #koha
21:42 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
21:42 tcohen       @later tell gmcharlt maybe it can be a new test in about.pl
21:36 cait         good night #koha
21:28 tcohen       I guess people updating the 'en' template often are those that do apt-get upgrade
21:28 tcohen       gmcharlt: versioning the templates is a good idea, 10942 would help too
21:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11457 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t can fail when subscription table is not empty
21:23 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 11457: avoid spurious test failure in t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t
21:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1591: SUCCESS in 2 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1591/
21:12 oleonard     Later #koha
21:03 mtompset     I'll be watching for a counter patch. :)
21:01 mtompset     But that doesn't make sense in terms of visibility.
21:01 mtompset     Because right now, it is hard coded to go to the first 1 (i.e. element [0]) if there is only 1 hit).
21:00 gmcharlt     in any event, I'll have a counter patch for you to look at
21:00 mtompset     So, I can see redirecting to a non-hardcoded [0].
20:59 gmcharlt     either for search, or in the DB, or both
20:59 gmcharlt     yeah, in the long term, materializing bib-vis-per-item-vis is needed
20:56 mtompset     The problem becomes a search where there are 40 results, but only 1 visible, and it is on page 2.
20:53 mtompset     Though, I do agree if there are <20 results, and only 1 visible, then the redirect should go to that.
20:52 gmcharlt     may or may not be the complete picture, given the search-by-tag that opac-search.pl also supports
20:51 gmcharlt     part of it is just this: $total += @newresults
20:51 mtompset     There's no way to filter through all the results to count them ourselves.
20:50 mtompset     I have a question: how? The results are never more than the amount to display on a given page.
20:50 mtompset     gmcharlt: I just read your comment about correcting $total instead of work arounds.
20:45 gmcharlt     khall_away: about?
20:23 cait         bye magnus
20:23 cait         do that:)
20:23 magnuse      have fun #koha!
20:22 magnuse      cait: yup, but that is a puzzle for another day, need to relax a bit now
20:22 cait         thinking about how often we forgot
20:22 cait         I'd like that...
20:20 gmcharlt     that way, one would be able to write a bit of JavaScript that would detect if one forgot to update your translated templates
20:19 gmcharlt     what would people think of arranging to have the version number string baked into koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/doc-head-close.inc or the like, as well as plugging in the version number taken from the database?
20:18 gmcharlt     tossing out an idea based on the the item types thread on the mailing list
20:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11457 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t can fail when subscription table is not empty
20:12 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 11457: avoid spurious test failure in t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t
20:12 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #300: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/300/
20:10 cait         hm bit puzzled.
20:10 magnuse      cait: yup, that is with UseQueryParser = Try...
20:07 cait         and i assume qp is on
20:07 magnuse      "a && (b || c || d)" gies 3
20:07 cait         true
20:07 magnuse      cait: "a && (b)" gives 75 hits, "a && (b || c)" gives 34 - that does not seem right
20:03 ibeardslee   I saw that he was going to be
20:01 rangi        ahh cool, chilts is around today too eh?
20:00 ibeardslee   rangi: they are doing databases in teh morning and then php this afternoon
20:00 * oleonard   should pay more attention
20:00 * oleonard   wondered if chris_n had really been around lately
19:59 huginn       oleonard: chris_n was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: * chris_n looks
19:59 oleonard     @seen chris_n
19:57 magnuse      cait: then i get the same numbers for "a b" and "a && b"
19:56 huginn       04Bug 9239: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries
19:56 cait         magnuse: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9239
19:55 magnuse      cait: ok, lemme check that
19:55 gmcharlt     oleonard: gotcha
19:54 cait         magnus
19:54 cait         not and
19:54 oleonard     The fix in Joubu's follow-up patch I probably didn't recognize as a bug per se but a possible improvement
19:54 cait         magnusi tihnk with queryparser it's &&
19:52 oleonard     Re: Your email, the short answer is no.
19:52 gmcharlt     oleonard: yes
19:52 wahanui      here is where I work
19:52 oleonard     gmcharlt: Still here?
19:48 magnuse      "y x" also gives 75, "y and x" gives 8!
19:48 magnuse      hm, "x y" gives 75 hits, "x and y" gives 7 - that seems not right...
19:47 magnuse      yay!
19:45 gmcharlt     indeed
19:45 rangi        i thought maybe bootstrap3 stuff might be useful?
19:45 rangi        tues-fri .. so should have a bunch of students ready to do stuff
19:44 rangi        next week is project week
19:44 rangi        ?
19:44 rangi        ibeardslee: what are they doing today
19:44 rangi        learning week
19:44 rangi        yep
19:43 oleonard     Catalyst Academy going on now rangi?
19:39 rangi        back
19:36 magnuse      but at least they are not way off
19:35 magnuse      yeah. i don't know the collection well enough to tell if the numbers make sense
19:35 cait         i thought someone said the () didn't work as epected, but even better if they do
19:35 cait         or a and (b or c)
19:34 cait         does it (a and b) or c
19:34 cait         i think question is
19:34 cait         hm
19:32 magnuse      and if i add more words with "or" inside the parenthesis the number of hits increases, as it should
19:30 rangi        brb coffee time
19:29 magnuse      yeah, the 21 hits look ok
19:28 cait         and the results match?
19:28 wahanui      interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
19:28 cait         interesting
19:27 magnuse      i'm seeing the opposite. without the queryparser i get 21 hits, then i turn it on and get 0 hits
19:25 cait         not sure if it will work well without
19:25 cait         wth the query parser i think it should
19:25 magnuse      hm, should koha be able to understand a search for "a and (b or c)"?
19:25 jenkins_koha Starting build #1591 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #300 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
19:19 bag          Ginny decided that 1am to 4am last night was really the middle of the afternoon and wanted to party away
19:19 bag          thanks cait
19:18 cait         alles gute zum Geburtstag bag :)
19:17 bag          thanks magnuse
19:17 magnuse      yeah, gratulerer med dagen bag!
19:17 bag          thanks galen and owen
19:16 oleonard     Hi bag, happy birthday!
19:16 gmcharlt     happy birthday!
19:16 * bag        is jet lagged
19:16 gmcharlt     hi bag
19:16 bag          hello
19:12 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11457: avoid spurious test failure in t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8209bf10269c36c1bb8d4b2da23fe356ab7a3568>
19:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11439 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , UT: XISBN.t returns failure
19:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9728 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, XISBN use simple search instead of SQL
19:09 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11439: UT: Improve XISBN.t
19:09 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11439: UT: fix XISBN.t test failure
19:09 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9728: XISBN unit test update
19:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #164: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/164/
19:05 tcohen       bye!
19:05 tcohen       its been a while!
19:05 tcohen       hey rangi
19:04 mtompset     bye tcohen
19:04 rangi        cya tcohen
19:04 tcohen       bye #koha!
19:04 tcohen       end of a quite busy day
19:04 mtompset     I supposed. I read back further, like I should have. :)
19:03 oleonard     mtompset: You don't understand: Librarians have no clicks to spare.
18:59 mtompset     nengard: 'click this' as in a tool tip?
18:58 nengard      no problemo
18:58 slef         hi nengard - sorry, today is a 2 meeting day :-/
18:40 jenkins_koha Starting build #164 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #159 13 days ago)
18:21 nengard      i know you can grab a click with onclick ... but not sure you can say 'click this'
18:15 kivilahtio   take care #koha!
18:15 kivilahtio   or maybe I could work smarter :)
18:14 kivilahtio   migrating our data is SO MUCH WORK
18:14 kivilahtio   phew
18:14 cait         hm wonder if one can simulate a click
18:10 nengard      I can put the right attributes in place on the field but that's not the magic that makes it sort
18:10 nengard      make the call number sorted asc on load of the record - as the default
18:10 cait         nengard: what are you trying to do?
18:09 nengard      so the answer to this might be - nope
18:08 nengard      so i can make the classes all change right, but that doesn't actually make it sort :(
18:04 nengard      well that makes sense
18:04 oleonard     removeAttr()
18:04 nengard      .attr adds one
18:04 nengard      is there a way to remove an attribute? so make the item type column not have the aria-sort attribute
18:03 nengard      i type the js in there and see if it works
18:03 nengard      oh i get it
18:01 nengard      would need a tutorial on how to use it cause all I see are a bunch of errors
18:00 nengard      just the inspector i mean
18:00 nengard      haven't used the console in firebug - but the inspector
18:00 oleonard     I would first try to get it working in the Firebug console, then try to figure out how to fire it at the right time
18:00 nengard      after.document.ready :) hehe
17:59 nengard      oh .... what do i use instead?
17:59 oleonard     nengard: document.ready probably won't work because the table isn't processed by the tablesorter until document.ready
17:52 pastebot     "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "looking for some jquery help if anyone has a moment - these attempts haven't worked" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/65
17:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10688 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , QueryParser doesn't recognize QP queries when used in a fielded search box
17:52 tcohen       jcamins: bug 10688 doesn't seem to fix the problem in 3.12.x, or i'm getting it wrong
17:06 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update patron duplicate checking
17:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #40: SUCCESS in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/40/
17:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #40 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:04 tcohen       tired?
17:03 cait         hm weakly :)
17:03 * cait       waves weekly
17:02 tcohen       hi cait
16:59 nengard      how's things?
16:59 nengard      hi slef! long time no talk
16:59 nengard      I think it is but would love confirmation :)
16:59 nengard      what order is the holdings table on the opac and staff client in by default? is that just itemnumber?
16:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Signed Off , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
16:57 slef         I left a comment on bug 8375 anyway
16:56 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update patron duplicate checking
16:56 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update acq with info about AcquisitionDetails
16:56 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add image to AcquisitionDetails
16:56 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #3: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/3/
16:56 jenkins_koha Starting build #3 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:53 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update patron duplicate checking
16:53 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add image to AcquisitionDetails
16:53 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update acq with info about AcquisitionDetails
16:53 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add AcquisitionDetails
16:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #433: SUCCESS in 15 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/433/
16:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #433 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:42 gaetan_B     bye !
16:41 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add AcquisitionDetails
16:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #2: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/2/
16:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #2 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:14 slef         if someone confirms that I'm not being stupid, I'll reply to the bug and ask that :)
16:13 huginn       slef: paul_p was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <paul_p> time to go to my next meeting !
16:13 slef         @seen paul_p
16:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Signed Off , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
16:13 slef         hi. On Bug 8375, can anyone see why would an o-umlaut show the bug? That's in latin-1 isn't it?
16:09 nengard      check out http://marcedit.reeset.net/ - export your data from koha and in to that and you can merge the 245s together and then reload in to Koha
16:08 nengard      You can only have 1
16:08 nengard      The 245 field is not repeatable according to MARC standards: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd245.html  (see the NR at the top)
16:06 cait         i have to go :) bye all
16:05 cait         maybe you want to check if it's really 2 245 using the export
16:05 cait         there is no built in feature that coudl do that
16:04 pablito      can i do some kind of batch job on all the records?
16:04 pablito      is there any way to fix the problem in koha?
16:03 cait         having 2 is not good at all
16:03 nengard      not according to the rules, but fine
16:03 nengard      I think if $b is before $a in the field is fine
16:02 * cait       nods
16:02 nengard      and merge the 245s together in to 1
16:02 nengard      i'd say try marcedit
16:02 pablito      it's like that for 30,000+ recordss
16:02 nengard      not 2
16:02 nengard      only 1 245 field
16:02 nengard      245    _aTheology of hope_bOn the ground and the implications of a Christian eschatology
16:02 nengard      you want:
16:02 pablito      uh oh
16:02 cait         your subfields are reverse
16:02 cait         yep
16:02 nengard      it's showing the first 245 first
16:02 nengard      That's why
16:02 nengard      OH!!
16:01 cait         are you using standard or xslt display?
16:01 pablito      245 	1 	0 	_aTheology of hope
16:01 pablito      245 			_bOn the ground and the implications of a Christian eschatology
16:01 pablito      100 	1 		_aMoltmann, Jürgen
16:01 nengard      did someone cuztomize your stylesheets?
16:01 pablito      here's my MARC:
16:01 nengard      sounds to me like a XSLT issue
16:01 nengard      that's a new one ...
16:01 wahanui      it has been said that interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
16:01 cait         interesting
16:00 pablito      but instead it displays: "On the ground and the implications of a Christian eschatologyTheology of hope"
16:00 pablito      It is supposed to display "Theology of hope: On the ground and the implications of a Christian eschatology"
15:59 pablito      for example:
15:59 pablito      In my search result in both OPAC and Admin side, it displays the remainder of the title first, then the main title
15:58 pablito      i have a peculiar problem with the title display
15:55 jcamins      It was sort of inevitable.
15:55 jcamins      lol
15:55 huginn       cait: Quote #148: "<oleonard> sekjal wants EVERYTHING in a matrix! <sekjal> I'm like the Anti-Neo" (added by wizzyrea at 05:11 PM, August 25, 2011)
15:55 cait         @quote random
15:55 gmcharlt     jcamins was prescient - http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2012-03-29#i_934584
15:55 cait         heh
15:54 nengard      OH!!!
15:53 oleonard     http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2012-03-29#i_934572
15:52 nengard      um
15:50 * druthb     boggles a little
15:49 huginn       druthb: Quote #194: "oleonard: Everyone will be all, Wow, that guys smells like he really wishes he could have sex!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:55 PM, March 29, 2012)
15:49 druthb       @quote random
15:47 AmitG        heya bag happy birthday ..... ;)
15:44 gmcharlt     hmmm
15:44 * gmcharlt   bounces the dashboard
15:39 cait         hi AmitG
15:39 * druthb     waves to AmitG
15:38 rambutan     HI AmitG
15:37 AmitG        ;)
15:37 AmitG        after long time on Koha irc chat
15:37 AmitG        heya druthb
15:36 AmitG        hi cait
15:36 AmitG        Hi all
15:35 jcamins      tcohen: I was thinking that 11:30 is a surprisingly early lunch, but we're two hours off when there's no DST here.
15:35 tcohen       its summer holidays so we have to drive a bit far to get something to eat
15:34 tcohen       12:34
15:34 mtompset     perhaps they ... right.
15:34 jcamins      Oh! No DST!
15:34 jcamins      Huh. I thought Argentina was only one hour ahead of EST.
15:33 wahanui      Lunch is probably a good idea :)
15:33 jcamins      Lunch?
15:30 mtompset     Really?! Now that is just silly. :P
15:29 gmcharlt     tcohen++
15:28 * tcohen     remembers we have "that's just silly" in the koha-list command's output and leaves to have lunch
15:28 mtompset     "Type 'koha-translate --list' to list the installed translations codes."
15:27 mtompset     I know, but using 'you' seems too informal.
15:27 mtompset     An implied 'you' is okay, as in the second case I wrote.
15:26 gmcharlt     this is not a manpage we're talking about here
15:26 gmcharlt     mtompset: directly addressing the user makes it more likely that they will recognize that they need to do something
15:26 mtompset     "Use 'koha-translate --list' to list the installed translations codes."
15:24 mtompset     Because the focus isn't the user. The focus is the action they need to take.
15:24 mtompset     "The command 'koha-translate --list' lists the installed translations codes."
15:23 gmcharlt     why? "One can run"... would be a little stiff
15:23 mtompset     What I would recommend is trying to avoid personal pronouns like "you" in the instructions.
15:22 mtompset     I think the way it is there is fine.
15:22 mtompset     But that makes it less active.
15:22 gmcharlt     though I think that "not set to be automatically updated." reads a tick better
15:21 gmcharlt     oh, scratch that, I misread
15:21 gmcharlt     s/update\./updated./
15:19 pastebot     "tcohen" at 172.22.66.78 pasted "template translations update needed warning" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/64
15:09 pablito      hehe
15:09 jcamins      Agreed.
15:09 cait         i guess the best bet rightnow is that bug ^^
15:09 jcamins      pablito: yeah, that's because it hasn't worked.
15:09 cait         rangi had it working ages ago with project gutenberg i think, but it was only after fixing some things i think
15:09 mtompset     Okay.
15:09 pablito      the documentation doesn't say much about it
15:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
15:09 cait         bug 10486
15:09 jcamins      Hello.
15:08 mtompset     never hurts to read the documentation, pablito. http://koha-community.org/documentation/
15:08 tcohen       hi jcamins
15:08 jcamins      tcohen: hooray!
15:07 jcamins      It does use pazpar2, but as it hasn't work in ages, if ever, it's not very useful IMO.
15:07 cait         it might use pazpar2, i haven't taken a closer look yet
15:07 cait         I know there is a patch wiating to be tested, that will allow to search other z39.50 targets from within koha
15:06 pablito      cait, you are right, it's not functional now
15:06 pablito      thanks
15:06 pablito      ah ok
15:05 cait         it can pull in other data over z39.50 from remote servers
15:05 tcohen       group several editions of a title
15:05 pablito      what's the advantage of it over regular search?
15:05 cait         i am not sure if it's fully functional at the moment
15:05 cait         activating a different template for the opac results page
15:05 cait         it's related to pazpar2
15:04 pablito      can someone tell me what OpacGroupResults does?
15:04 pablito      hi
15:02 Dyrcona      I just added gettext/boost::locale support to one of my utilities. The po files are small, but there are only 21 translatable strings.
15:02 Dyrcona      heh.
15:01 mtompset     They are too big!
15:01 * mtompset   hates po files.
15:00 Dyrcona      :)
15:00 mtompset     Dyrcona: I know, but even the choir needs to have those, "YES! EXACTLY! Correct that misconception! YES!" type moments. :)
14:58 Dyrcona      mtompset: It is an interesting read, though preaching to the choir in my case. :)
14:53 mtompset     Greetings, tcohen.
14:53 tcohen       hi mtompset
14:36 mtompset     Perhaps might be an interesting read for others.
14:35 mtompset     http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/Letter+Clearing+misconceptions+about+librarians/9363024/story.html
14:33 mtompset     That makes sense to me, and I don't even know what you are talking about. :)
14:32 cait         which is not the home library
14:32 cait         magnuswhen you check it in, it shoudl have holdingbranch = return library
14:31 mtompset     Greetings, cait magnuse
14:31 magnuse      hiya mtompset
14:31 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
14:31 magnuse      cait: homebranch amd holdingbranch does not seem to be affected
14:28 tcohen       i propose a configuration variable-driven aproach (automatic template updates) and posibly some check+warning if automatic=off
14:27 magnuse      eythian probably knows "the debian  way to do things" better than me
14:27 magnuse      not sure about how to do it, though
14:27 magnuse      yeah, upgrading the templates sounds like a good idea to me
14:25 tcohen       the problem for average users of having outdated template translations
14:24 tcohen       not the patch, but the idea, and the way you'd handle
14:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10942 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Provide a way for package upgrades to update template translations
14:23 tcohen       magnuse: can u tell how what do u think about bug 10942?
14:22 cait         hm and reset holding library
14:21 magnuse      so maybe just a cronjob to periodically delete from branchtransfers?
14:17 magnuse      and it almost gave away the password :-)
14:15 cait         oh it is
14:14 tcohen       hmm, the dashboard is failing to connect to the DB
14:14 magnuse      yeah, that is set to "transfer automatically"
14:13 francharb    yup
14:13 cait         to mark the item home
14:13 cait         but still have to check in
14:13 * cait       nods
14:12 francharb    the minimum would be " AutomaticItemReturn " so they dont have to confirm transfer messages
14:12 magnuse      yup
14:12 cait         do they share patrons?
14:12 francharb    ok
14:12 cait         hm that's a hard one yes
14:11 magnuse      the reason we created two libraries in the first place was that one of them wants to send out overdue message and the other one does not, so having two branches/libraries is a given, i'm afraid
14:11 cait         but if you want to divide acq etc branches might be good... depends on the ther things the library wants to do i guess
14:11 francharb    ;)
14:11 francharb    that the set up I would do to avoid transfer between these two libraries
14:10 magnuse      hehe
14:10 francharb    and if they have ccode, well, I have no idea where to put that... ;)
14:09 francharb    and put shelving location into items.ccode
14:09 francharb    What I would do is to set up the same branch for both libraries, give the library name into items.location
14:08 francharb    I dont think there is a set up to disable transfer
14:07 magnuse      yeah, that is almost worse ;-)
14:07 cait         to reset it to the right holding library
14:07 cait         when it comes back
14:07 cait         yu could do a floating collection, but i think then they would still have to check it in
14:06 cait         hmm
14:05 magnuse      they are in the same building, so when they return something from the other library they just put it in their pile - they don't need koha to track transfers/transit stuff
14:04 cait         or do they just not want to see the message?
14:04 cait         do they not want to send the items back?
14:04 cait         hm no transports?
14:01 magnuse      if two libraries in one koha installation wants to avoid the "Item in transit from libraryX to libraryY since..." message when they return each others items, what should they do?
14:01 magnuse      i have a terrible feeling i solved this for someone else already, but here goes...
13:42 pablito      *magnuse :-)
13:42 pablito      thanks maguse and wahanui! :-)
13:41 wahanui      mailing lists are http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
13:41 oleonard     mailing lists?
13:40 pablito      what is the mailinglist?
13:40 magnuse      pablito: i think very few people have experience with PazPar2 and koha - you might have more luck on the mailinglist
13:24 tcohen       i don0t pablito
13:23 pablito      do you have experience installing pazpar2?
13:23 pablito      hi tcohen
13:23 tcohen       hi oleonard pablito
13:19 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:11 pablito      does anyone have experience installing PazPar2 for Koha?
13:11 pablito      hi everyone
12:57 paul_p       time to go to my next meeting !
12:57 kivilahtio   hops maybe?
12:56 magnuse      hoho - hop on hop off
12:56 magnuse      paul_p: nice
12:55 paul_p       magnuse http://www.hop.fr/ "530 flights every day"
12:54 paul_p       magnuse do you know that the "AirFrance domestic flights" are now operated by ... HOP ! (not kidding)
12:54 kivilahtio   I will hop to a plane towards Eilat, Israel in two weeks
12:54 paul_p       kivilahtio so yes, a kind of bugfest
12:53 magnuse      kivilahtio: hop on the plane to lyons :-)
12:53 kivilahtio   paul_p: ok
12:53 kivilahtio   it might be my next party theme
12:53 paul_p       kivilahtio = it's just Lyon 3 that has invited all interested library to join them (in the same office), to have a day of bugtesting. a kind of local hackfest.
12:53 magnuse      bigfest sounds like fun too :-)
12:53 kivilahtio   what is happening, how do I join, etc...
12:53 kivilahtio   erm bugfest
12:53 paul_p       kivilahtio deal ?
12:53 kivilahtio   somesort of bigfest?
12:52 kivilahtio   any links?
12:52 magnuse      paul_p: no comment ;-)
12:52 kivilahtio   paul_p: What was the deal with this friday @ Lyons 3?
12:52 paul_p       magnuse after Marseille, of course, isn't it ? ;)
12:52 tcohen       paul_p: it is
12:52 paul_p       hey, and it seems it's also the birthday of Eliott davis, if google+ is not wrong !!!
12:52 magnuse      and just in case anyone had any doubt: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/07/norway-greatest-place-on-earth_n_4550413.html ;-)
12:51 magnuse      caongrats to paul_p and bag!
12:51 tcohen       let me check just in case
12:51 tcohen       it should heh
12:50 paul_p       tcohen = just one question : is the main photo of the album the one of your wife ?
12:50 kivilahtio   paul_p: congratulations!
12:50 paul_p       kivilahtio 46
12:50 kivilahtio   paul_p: Happy birthday indeed, dare I ask how many years you have under your belt?
12:50 tcohen       thanks, we are still waiting for the official photos
12:49 paul_p       tcohen = I saw your wedding photos. they're wonderful !
12:49 tcohen       happy birthday paul_p and bag! o/
12:49 paul_p       cait ;-)
12:49 cait         bag: and happy birthday to you!
12:48 cait         happy birthday paul_p :)
12:47 paul_p       bag = happy birthday to you as well ;-)
12:47 paul_p       tcohen = no need to procastinate today ! it's my birthday ! only celebration & happyness please :D
12:47 paul_p       hi tcohen Thx for your personnal email ;-)
12:43 tcohen       need to procrastinate
12:42 tcohen       what's hot on bz?
12:13 drojf        hi tcohen :)
12:13 tcohen       hi drojf
12:02 drojf        hi cait :) danke, dir auch :)
12:01 cait         hi tcohen
12:01 tcohen       is it Paul's birthday?
12:00 tcohen       hi cait
12:00 cait         schönes Neues Jahr!
12:00 cait         hi drojf :)
12:00 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:00 tcohen       @later tell jcamins they all pass now
11:59 tcohen       morning #koha
11:51 drojf        hi #koha. and a happy new year :)
11:38 cait         lots of italian koha users on the list .)
11:10 nlegrand     hello #koha
10:04 * rangi      goes to sleep
09:59 rangi        hi Joubu
09:56 rangi        and any competent IT person could pinhole it for the users that needed it
09:55 rangi        ding ding, it doesn't
09:55 rangi        and how exactly does firewall outbound 9418 stop that?
09:54 paxed        perhaps you feel like they're nazis because you know how to work with computers, but 95% of users do not, but keep on clicking on all the "hit the monkey for $100000" ads and other crap.
09:53 Joubu        hi all
09:32 * petter     wants to be his own department too..
09:30 magnuse      yay
09:29 rangi        excellent
09:28 petter       YES! Its working, thank you :)
09:28 magnuse      i became my own it department right after the it department at my old place of work began blocking me from installing things on my desktop pc
09:27 magnuse      amen to that
09:27 rangi        IT depts, ruining it for everybody since 1982
09:27 petter       our muncipality firewall is totally nazi
09:27 petter       rangi: I agree
09:27 petter       I'll try again
09:26 petter       my bad
09:26 rangi        petter: only behind sane corporate firewalls, who actually open ports for the users they actually exist to serve, outbound port 9148 blocking is just silly
09:26 petter       ah!
09:26 magnuse_     petter: note the /r/ instead of /w/
09:26 rangi        works for me
09:25 magnuse_     petter: did you use http://repo.or.cz/r/koha.git ?
09:24 petter       Does noone else work behind corporate firewalls? Its very common for port 9418 (which git uses) to be blocked :(
09:22 petter       I think that address only servers the html frontend
09:20 petter       fatal: http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git/info/refs not valid: is this a git repository?
09:20 petter       I get:
09:20 petter       hm
09:15 petter       thank you:)
09:15 petter       I'll track that instead
09:15 petter       ah cool!
09:15 rangi        http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git is automatically up to date
09:13 petter       So we really need an up to date git repo available over http/https
09:13 petter       We cannot use git protocoll because of our firewall
09:12 petter       Is it possible for someone to make the github repo automatically sync?
09:12 petter       about Koha's git repo
09:11 petter       good morning koha!
08:42 kivilahtio   MrAgent075: good morning!
08:39 cait         when no email is defined, i am not sure how this will changed with the new development by biblibre
08:38 cait         you can only send print for overdues and hold notifications currently
08:36 MrAgent075   Good Evening all.
08:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10845 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Multi transport types for holds
08:36 kivilahtio   cait: I wonder how we send print notices to our patrons? bug 10845 deals with this inderectly by sending a print notification if sms or email is configured but contact details are missing
08:35 kivilahtio   cait: Itiva TalkingTech Phone
08:35 cait         phone might become visible when you add some configuration for the phone notifications
08:35 kivilahtio   cait: thanks
08:35 cait         print never existed
08:35 cait         feed was never implemented
08:35 kivilahtio   magnuse_: I am pretty sure there was a print option before january?
08:35 kivilahtio   magnuse_: seems to be there is no print opttion
08:34 kivilahtio   magnuse_: also it looks like the feed part has been disabled  in the code
08:34 kivilahtio   magnuse_: yes
08:34 magnuse_     sms might turn up there if you enable it, or put in a SMS driver in the right syspref
08:33 magnuse_     kivilahtio: mine has: Days in advance - Email - Digests only? for the column headings
08:24 kivilahtio   Is it just me but did "Patron messaging preferences" use to have print and feed and phone in addition to sms and email?
08:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #1: SUCCESS in 2 min 51 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/1/
08:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x
08:12 gaetan_B     hello
08:07 marcelr      hi alex_a
08:01 wahanui      bidet, alex_a
08:01 alex_a       bonjour
07:52 marcelr      hi #koha
07:52 cait         hi #koha
07:03 cait         bbl
07:03 cait         hope i can find my way to work ;)
07:03 cait         very foggy here
06:55 magnuse      a bit of snow this morning, yes
06:55 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 09, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
06:55 magnuse      @wunder boo
06:55 cait         hmm
06:55 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.1°C (7:50 AM CET on January 09, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
06:55 cait         @wunder Konstanz
06:54 magnuse      :-)
06:50 Oak          :)
06:50 Oak          magnuse
06:44 * magnuse    waves
06:42 magnus_away  Oak
06:28 cait         hi Oak :)
06:28 Oak          night dco
06:28 wahanui      goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
06:28 dcook        Night all
06:28 dcook        Ack, where does the time go...
06:28 Oak          Guten morgen cait
06:26 dcook        Blah, koha-patches...why do you think I'm not a member..
06:26 * dcook      wants to add an image button
06:25 dcook        Alas, we only have the plugins that we're currently using
06:25 dcook        Yeah, I was looking at opac news
06:24 cait         or at opac news
06:24 cait         for the opac info box
06:24 cait         dcook: there we have an wysiwyg editor
06:24 cait         dcook: look at branches
05:56 mtompset     Have a great day.
05:56 mtompset     Well, it's 1am here. I'm off to bed.
05:54 dcook        Ah, there are some older releases..
05:54 dcook        Hmm, I wonder why we removed all the tinymce plugins...I suppose if we didn't need them...but it's a bit of a pain to add some in now
05:51 mtompset     Okay I signed it off, and noted tabs to be fixed.
05:49 jatara       :)
05:49 jatara       i'm going to head out as it's nearly midnight here and i have to work in the AM. thanks so much, guys and have a great day/night.
05:48 jatara       i look forward to it
05:48 dcook        My first patch was small but took me a while
05:48 dcook        jatara: It gets faster in time :)
05:47 dcook        cait: You work hard :)
05:47 jatara       him testing and me waiting for results
05:47 jatara       me posting patches and waiting for testing
05:47 jatara       i've been tackling this for a while tonight .. it's nearly midnight here
05:46 cait         ?
05:46 dcook        A trooper through and through
05:45 dcook        cait++
05:45 cait         hope to qa in a bit, but if not during the weeken dfor sure
05:45 cait         np
05:45 jatara       thanks so much, cait
05:45 jatara       absolutely.
05:45 cait         don't worry about the tabs, and jatara can do it next time
05:44 cait         i will fix the tabs
05:44 * dcook      thinks QA sometimes take care of it the first or second time it happens
05:44 wahanui      i guess cait is a bit worried about lumping all code into a single file a sa first step
05:44 mtompset     cait?
05:44 mtompset     Or is it good enough that *I* fix them?
05:43 mtompset     I really need to run the qa test tool first.
05:43 mtompset     Otherwise I need to UNSIGN these.
05:43 mtompset     You need to fix them.
05:43 pastebot     "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tab issues." (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/63
05:42 jatara       ok...i'll definitely keep that in mind
05:42 mtompset     do not use tabs, use 4 spaces.
05:42 jatara       tab issues?
05:42 mtompset     jatara: tab issues.
05:41 mtompset     Oh shoot.
05:39 dcook        jatara++
05:39 jatara       thank you!
05:39 cait         congrats jatara :)
05:39 huginn       dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10012 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Remove all traces of NoZebraIndexes
05:39 huginn       dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra
05:39 huginn       dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8686 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Raise required version of URI::Escape to 3.31
05:39 huginn       dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5068 critical, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , in add MARC record interface, concatenation of repeatable subfields in subject heading tags
05:39 huginn       dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1 - high, ---, frederic, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug
05:39 dcook        @query "Local subject"
05:38 jatara       thanks so much for walking me through the process
05:37 jatara       my first signed-off patch, the first of many more :)
05:37 jatara       this has been a pretty good night
05:30 jatara       whoohoo!
05:29 mtompset     I'm not going to retest the scratch installation, since you didn't change any of that. It works for prog too. :)
05:24 jatara       and toes
05:23 jatara       crossing my fingers
05:23 mtompset     restoring old DB... retesting.
05:19 jatara       they will be happy to see that pop up box go away
05:19 jatara       that's great news for our librarians.
05:18 mtompset     Just confirmed that 3.12.x does have the ability to [% use koha %]
05:12 jatara       it's up
05:12 jatara       here we go
05:04 jatara       hold on.
05:04 jatara       if it's just one file, i'll knock it out now.
05:04 mtompset     Yes. :)
05:04 jatara       just change the one file?
05:03 mtompset     It's an easy patch for prog. You just need to make the same template changes to the sco-main.tt under prog.
05:03 jatara       my brain is overwhelmed :)
05:02 jatara       i'll have a patch up by tomorrow
05:02 jatara       but not tonight
05:02 jatara       i will also do prog as well
05:02 mtompset     Otherwise, I'll just sign off what is here.
05:01 mtompset     I'm willing to wait a bit more, if you want to get that up there.
05:01 mtompset     Also... are you planning on doing prog?
05:00 mtompset     In your case, this is really small, and you did put a test plan in comment #2.
05:00 mtompset     That way as you build a multi-patch bug fix or enhancement, each piece can be individually tested.
04:59 jatara       will do.
04:59 mtompset     It's always a good idea to include your test plan in the commit message of the patch.
04:58 mtompset     Not anything bad, but for future reference.
04:58 mtompset     Oh, another thing, jatara.
04:54 mtompset     It's not like people will change the system preference after some self-checkout has logged in.
04:51 mtompset     Ah... the Koha.Preference() is cached during the session?
04:47 jatara       ok
04:46 mtompset     roll your own distribution?
04:46 gmcharlt     jatara: that's ultimately up to the release maintainer for 3.12.x
04:43 jatara       so how can the patch also be incorporated in 3.12.x?
04:42 jatara       i do need this in 3.12 -- we are months away from upgrading to 3.14
04:42 mtompset     an upgrade isn't going to jump you to bootstrap.
04:41 mtompset     oh, if you are using the ccsr theme, then you should include the prog theme in your changes.
04:41 gmcharlt     but for your specific catalog, you'd have to upgrade to 3.14 to see it in action
04:40 gmcharlt     jatara: later -- it needs to be included in the patch because bootstrap is the new default OPAC theme
04:39 jatara       where does bootstrap come in?
04:38 gmcharlt     jatara: not necessary; ccsr will default to the prog .tt files
04:38 jatara       we have 3.12 and just moved to the ccsr theme
04:37 jatara       do i also need to add this to the ccsr directory as well? that's how i got started with this patch in the first place -- we need it in our library
04:37 jatara       Gotcha.
04:37 mtompset     sysprefs.sql is for new installs, and updatedatabase.pl is for updating existing ones.
04:36 mtompset     Yes.
04:36 mtompset     okay... fine with me.
04:36 gmcharlt     I don't see any a priori reason to prefer one over the other
04:36 jatara       so sysprefs.sql is for new installs and updatedatabase.pl is for updating existing ones?
04:36 gmcharlt     a default of prompting is also fine
04:36 mtompset     1 = prompting, 0 = no prompting.
04:35 mtompset     Chris said that a default install of no prompting is fine.
04:35 jatara       isnt the default supposed to be 0?
04:35 mtompset     There was no need to change the sysprefs.sql
04:35 mtompset     jatara: Uh no.
04:34 jatara       patch's up
04:33 gmcharlt     backwards patchability for prog to 3.12.x only matters for bugfixes
04:33 mtompset     Of course... an enhancement would never make it in... so, I can understand not doing prog.
04:32 dcook        I was pondering that last night with one of my latest patches. But...
04:32 mtompset     I agree that is the general notion, but prog might still be worth doing -- for backwards patchability to 3.12.x
04:31 dcook        mtompset: I think the prevailing notion these days is that bootstrap is the template to develop for, and only to do other ones if you can be fussed
04:30 mtompset     Oh, jatara, the other question I was wondering about. Do you only need this for the bootstrap theme?
04:28 eythian      especially as in mobile that becomes a menu bar.
04:28 wahanui      mtompset: I forgot maybe some
04:28 mtompset     wahanui: forget maybe some
04:28 dcook        Depends if they're going for common look and feel, or an app that looks good
04:28 eythian      I think that's quite hard to do with bootstrap
04:27 wahanui      maybe some are explained more in the manual, but ultimately, you can look at the sql files for the full detail.
04:27 dcook        Well, maybe some
04:27 dcook        I don't think so
04:27 mtompset     Actually, I have a question. wouldn't most people want the top black bar BELOW the photo?
04:26 * dcook      is going to push for our next upgrade to be to 3.14
04:26 eythian      yeah
04:26 dcook        I know I've asked this before but when did the Bootstrap OPAC come about? 3.14?
04:25 Oak          oooh lookin' good
04:25 dcook        oleonard++
04:24 dcook        [off] eythian: lookin' rad
04:24 eythian      [off] new themed bootstrap Koha installation, not yet live: http://pcanz.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/
04:20 mtompset     (well, however many ^'s)
04:20 mtompset     We get away with ^^^^^^^^^ because it's linear.
04:20 * dcook      thinks he is missing some git man pages..
04:20 jatara       almost done
04:20 mtompset     In the case of a multiple bz comit.
04:20 mtompset     ^^3^2 = ^1^3^2.
04:19 dcook        Mmm, right
04:19 mtompset     Each level is numbered left to right...
04:19 eythian      they're ordered.
04:19 dcook        Although how would you differentiate between paths?
04:19 dcook        hehe
04:19 eythian      easy peasy.
04:19 eythian      it's just a way of expressing different paths against the direction within a directed acyclic graph.
04:18 eythian      And your ancestors differ along those paths.
04:18 eythian      well, you can have more than one parent.
04:17 dcook        eythian: Yeah, maybe that was it. I seem to recall a difference between parents and ancestors but maybe my brain is just scrambled
04:17 Oak          mtompset++
04:17 mtompset     At least I'll get a sign off before going to bed tonight.
04:17 * mtompset   is waiting for jatara to make the patch changes.
04:17 Oak          :)
04:17 mtompset     Greetings, Oak.
04:16 eythian      hi Oak
04:16 * Oak        waves to Mr Robin and mtompset
04:16 eythian      whereas ^n is for picking the (great(grand(parent)))
04:16 mtompset     line 64 of man gitrevisions has a pretty tree which explains the mess.
04:16 eythian      I think ~n is for picking the n'th parent (usually commits have one, but merges may have more.)
04:15 dcook        Of course, I can't 100% recall it. Just that they seem to do the same thing, but they're not really doing the same thing.
04:15 * dcook      seems to recall a conversations about the difference between ~ and ^ in git
04:14 dcook        heya Oak
04:14 Oak          hello dcook
04:14 * Oak        waves
04:14 dcook        Hmm? Slashes?
04:12 mtompset     by the way, dcook you had the wrong slashes. EEEEVIL!
04:12 gmcharlt     yeah, there are a LOT of ways to refer to commits and commit ranges
04:11 eythian      man gitrevisions <-- more than you probably want to know
04:11 eythian      it would probably end in tears
04:10 mtompset     Would that work?
04:10 mtompset     I was thinking of intermediate git bz attach BUGNUM HEAD during a git rebase -i ;)
04:10 gmcharlt     increase the number of '^' for the number of commits
04:09 gmcharlt     for two commits
04:09 gmcharlt     git bz attach -e BUGNUM HEAD^^..HEAD
04:09 gmcharlt     one way
04:09 mtompset     And I have not mastered that.
04:09 eythian      mtompset: you mean multiple commits? I think you can use a commit range specifier.
04:08 mtompset     Though, I think I have any idea, if you don't.
04:07 mtompset     I hate trying to attach multiple signed off files. I never can remember the syntax!
04:07 dcook        mtompset: If you use git bz, you shouldn't have any troubles
04:07 jatara       so i just need to fix the template file and add [% USE Koha %]?
04:06 mtompset     and could you just squash all your commits into a single file, since it really is tiny and easier to sign off that way? :)
04:06 jatara       it's a pretty straightforward piece of logic
04:06 jatara       Right.
04:06 mtompset     because it will be 1 or 0.
04:05 mtompset     Probably don't even need the == 1
04:05 mtompset     or is it eq?
04:05 wahanui      mtompset: that doesn't look right
04:05 mtompset     and change your condition to be [% IF Koha.Preference('SelfCheckReceiptPrompt') == 1 %]
04:05 jatara       and that's it?
04:05 dcook        [% USE Koha %]
04:04 mtompset     So [% Koha %] at the top of sco-main.tt
04:04 jatara       Right. Only execute the statement if the value is 1
04:04 * dcook      wonders if there is a bug in renew.tt...
04:04 mtompset     [% IF Koha.Preference('AllowRenewalLimitOverride') %]
04:04 dcook        I think that should be $Koha
04:04 dcook        Although that looks wrong...
04:03 dcook        Then it looks like you test the presence of that syspref like so: [% IF Koha.Preference('AllowRenewalLimitOverride') %]
04:03 dcook        The "new" method has [% USE Koha %] at the top of the ".tt" file
04:03 jatara       kinda but i'm used to it.
04:03 dcook        Sorry, jatara, we're probably confusing the heck out of you right now
04:02 dcook        There's an example
04:02 dcook        koha-tmpl\intranet-tmpl\prog\en\modules\circ\renew.tt
04:02 mtompset     But then you need to modify the line to actually make the new call.
04:02 jatara       at the top of what? sco-main.tt?
04:01 dcook        Very top, I think
04:00 dcook        Yeah
04:00 dcook        [% USE Koha %]
04:00 gmcharlt     [% USE Koha %]
04:00 dcook        Wait..
04:00 * dcook      tries to remember where
04:00 dcook        To do the "new way" I think you just need to add [% Koha %] at the top of your template..
03:59 jatara       let me take a look
03:59 jatara       ok
03:59 mtompset     in your case, sco-main.pl
03:58 mtompset     most of the code has something like what I said in the corresponding {page}.pl
03:58 mtompset     All the pages are pre-processed by template toolkit.
03:58 jatara       when you say pass the parameter to the template page, what do you mean? i need to fix sco.sco-main.tt?
03:57 mtompset     something like $template->param( SelfCheckReceiptPrompt => C4::Context->Preference('SelfCheckReceiptPrompt') );
03:57 mtompset     OR the old way, which I'm familiar with, and modify sco-main.pl
03:56 mtompset     You need to update either the template file to do the new way of getting system preferences.
03:56 dcook        hey BobB
03:56 dcook        Ah, that took me a second
03:56 dcook        O_o
03:56 mtompset     NO!
03:56 mtompset     No.
03:56 mtompset     The SelfCheckReceiptPrompt is ALWAYS 0
03:56 jatara       oh, i need to update sysprefs.sql
03:55 jatara       +	    [% END %]
03:55 jatara       window.open("/cgi-bin/koha/sco/printslip.pl?borrowernumber=[% borrowernumber %]&amp;print=qslip");
03:55 jatara       if(confirm("Would you like to print a receipt?")){
03:55 jatara       is this what you meant:   [% IF ( SelfCheckReceiptPrompt ) %]
03:55 wahanui      mtompset: I forgot system preference
03:55 mtompset     wahanui: forget The system preference
03:54 wahanui      the system preference is ReservesMaxPickUpDelay
03:54 mtompset     The system preference.
03:54 mtompset     which means it never prompts. DOH!
03:54 jatara       huh?
03:54 mtompset     you forget to pass the parameter to the template page.
03:54 mtompset     BUT...
03:54 mtompset     You have the template page updated.
03:53 mtompset     It does toggle nicely.
03:53 mtompset     you have the system preference.
03:53 jatara       awww, where?
03:53 mtompset     You missed a piece.
03:52 jatara       still here...feeling like I"m on stage at a Miss America pageant
03:52 jatara       yep
03:52 mtompset     jatara!
03:51 * mtompset   calls out in a loud voice...
03:51 mtompset     jatara: You here?
03:51 mtompset     DOH!
03:48 mtompset     Hmmm... something isn't working?
03:36 dcook        -> /cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl
03:36 * dcook      thinks it's mentioned in the syspref
03:35 mtompset     what is the URL to sco?
03:32 cait         which is in like 2 hours
03:32 mtompset     give me 5.
03:32 cait         i might qa it after breakfast ;)
03:32 cait         mtompset: if you hurry up
03:32 * cait       crosses fingers ;)
03:31 jatara       eeek!
03:29 mtompset     Okay... visual scan looks good. let's test. :)
03:25 jatara       It is. Whoohoo! :)
03:24 * dcook      think it might be jatara's first patch to the community?
03:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11415 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , SCO has no option to disable automatic receipt printing
03:24 dcook        bug 11415
03:24 mtompset     jatara's?
03:23 * dcook      noticed that she fixed the little thing Chris mentioned
03:23 dcook        mtompset: You could sign off on jatara's if it hasn't been done already :)
03:23 dcook        Turns out it isn't...the dateformat is set as a datepicker option in a different part of calendar.inc
03:23 dcook        cait: I couldn't see how the Javascript function "Date_from_syspref" was being called on additem.pl
03:22 mtompset     which bug do you want signed off then, dcook? :P
03:22 cait         ooh.
03:21 cait         no magic?
03:20 * dcook      says out of the blue
03:20 dcook        Ahhh! It wasn't magic after all!
03:19 cait         :)
03:18 eythian      good. Oh, your card arrived the other day. It's now on our bookshelf thing :)
03:17 cait         how are things?
03:17 cait         i know
03:16 eythian      it is too early to be up
03:16 cait         sh ;)
03:16 wahanui      hello cait are you here?
03:16 eythian      hello cait
03:14 dcook        :p
03:14 * dcook      is waiting for one of those "ask and thou shalt receive moments"
03:14 * dcook      wishes that oleonard was around
00:31 eythian      hi papa
00:31 papa         hey, hi there