Time  Nick         Message
00:31 papa         hey, hi there
00:31 eythian      hi papa
03:14 * dcook      wishes that oleonard was around
03:14 * dcook      is waiting for one of those "ask and thou shalt receive moments"
03:14 dcook        :p
03:16 eythian      hello cait
03:16 wahanui      hello cait are you here?
03:16 cait         sh ;)
03:16 eythian      it is too early to be up
03:17 cait         i know
03:17 cait         how are things?
03:18 eythian      good. Oh, your card arrived the other day. It's now on our bookshelf thing :)
03:19 cait         :)
03:20 dcook        Ahhh! It wasn't magic after all!
03:20 * dcook      says out of the blue
03:21 cait         no magic?
03:22 cait         ooh.
03:22 mtompset     which bug do you want signed off then, dcook? :P
03:23 dcook        cait: I couldn't see how the Javascript function "Date_from_syspref" was being called on additem.pl
03:23 dcook        Turns out it isn't...the dateformat is set as a datepicker option in a different part of calendar.inc
03:23 dcook        mtompset: You could sign off on jatara's if it hasn't been done already :)
03:23 * dcook      noticed that she fixed the little thing Chris mentioned
03:24 mtompset     jatara's?
03:24 dcook        bug 11415
03:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11415 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , SCO has no option to disable automatic receipt printing
03:24 * dcook      think it might be jatara's first patch to the community?
03:25 jatara       It is. Whoohoo! :)
03:29 mtompset     Okay... visual scan looks good. let's test. :)
03:31 jatara       eeek!
03:32 * cait       crosses fingers ;)
03:32 cait         mtompset: if you hurry up
03:32 cait         i might qa it after breakfast ;)
03:32 mtompset     give me 5.
03:32 cait         which is in like 2 hours
03:35 mtompset     what is the URL to sco?
03:36 * dcook      thinks it's mentioned in the syspref
03:36 dcook        -> /cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl
03:48 mtompset     Hmmm... something isn't working?
03:51 mtompset     DOH!
03:51 mtompset     jatara: You here?
03:51 * mtompset   calls out in a loud voice...
03:52 mtompset     jatara!
03:52 jatara       yep
03:52 jatara       still here...feeling like I"m on stage at a Miss America pageant
03:53 mtompset     You missed a piece.
03:53 jatara       awww, where?
03:53 mtompset     you have the system preference.
03:53 mtompset     It does toggle nicely.
03:54 mtompset     You have the template page updated.
03:54 mtompset     BUT...
03:54 mtompset     you forget to pass the parameter to the template page.
03:54 jatara       huh?
03:54 mtompset     which means it never prompts. DOH!
03:54 mtompset     The system preference.
03:54 wahanui      the system preference is ReservesMaxPickUpDelay
03:55 mtompset     wahanui: forget The system preference
03:55 wahanui      mtompset: I forgot system preference
03:55 jatara       is this what you meant:   [% IF ( SelfCheckReceiptPrompt ) %]
03:55 jatara       if(confirm("Would you like to print a receipt?")){
03:55 jatara       window.open("/cgi-bin/koha/sco/printslip.pl?borrowernumber=[% borrowernumber %]&print=qslip");
03:55 jatara       +	    [% END %]
03:56 jatara       oh, i need to update sysprefs.sql
03:56 mtompset     The SelfCheckReceiptPrompt is ALWAYS 0
03:56 mtompset     No.
03:56 mtompset     NO!
03:56 dcook        O_o
03:56 dcook        Ah, that took me a second
03:56 dcook        hey BobB
03:56 mtompset     You need to update either the template file to do the new way of getting system preferences.
03:57 mtompset     OR the old way, which I'm familiar with, and modify sco-main.pl
03:57 mtompset     something like $template->param( SelfCheckReceiptPrompt => C4::Context->Preference('SelfCheckReceiptPrompt') );
03:58 jatara       when you say pass the parameter to the template page, what do you mean? i need to fix sco.sco-main.tt?
03:58 mtompset     All the pages are pre-processed by template toolkit.
03:58 mtompset     most of the code has something like what I said in the corresponding {page}.pl
03:59 mtompset     in your case, sco-main.pl
03:59 jatara       ok
03:59 jatara       let me take a look
04:00 dcook        To do the "new way" I think you just need to add [% Koha %] at the top of your template..
04:00 * dcook      tries to remember where
04:00 dcook        Wait..
04:00 gmcharlt     [% USE Koha %]
04:00 dcook        [% USE Koha %]
04:00 dcook        Yeah
04:01 dcook        Very top, I think
04:02 jatara       at the top of what? sco-main.tt?
04:02 mtompset     But then you need to modify the line to actually make the new call.
04:02 dcook        koha-tmpl\intranet-tmpl\prog\en\modules\circ\renew.tt
04:02 dcook        There's an example
04:03 dcook        Sorry, jatara, we're probably confusing the heck out of you right now
04:03 jatara       kinda but i'm used to it.
04:03 dcook        The "new" method has [% USE Koha %] at the top of the ".tt" file
04:03 dcook        Then it looks like you test the presence of that syspref like so: [% IF Koha.Preference('AllowRenewalLimitOverride') %]
04:04 dcook        Although that looks wrong...
04:04 dcook        I think that should be $Koha
04:04 mtompset     [% IF Koha.Preference('AllowRenewalLimitOverride') %]
04:04 * dcook      wonders if there is a bug in renew.tt...
04:04 jatara       Right. Only execute the statement if the value is 1
04:04 mtompset     So [% Koha %] at the top of sco-main.tt
04:05 dcook        [% USE Koha %]
04:05 jatara       and that's it?
04:05 mtompset     and change your condition to be [% IF Koha.Preference('SelfCheckReceiptPrompt') == 1 %]
04:05 wahanui      mtompset: that doesn't look right
04:05 mtompset     or is it eq?
04:05 mtompset     Probably don't even need the == 1
04:06 mtompset     because it will be 1 or 0.
04:06 jatara       Right.
04:06 jatara       it's a pretty straightforward piece of logic
04:06 mtompset     and could you just squash all your commits into a single file, since it really is tiny and easier to sign off that way? :)
04:07 jatara       so i just need to fix the template file and add [% USE Koha %]?
04:07 dcook        mtompset: If you use git bz, you shouldn't have any troubles
04:07 mtompset     I hate trying to attach multiple signed off files. I never can remember the syntax!
04:08 mtompset     Though, I think I have any idea, if you don't.
04:09 eythian      mtompset: you mean multiple commits? I think you can use a commit range specifier.
04:09 mtompset     And I have not mastered that.
04:09 gmcharlt     one way
04:09 gmcharlt     git bz attach -e BUGNUM HEAD^^..HEAD
04:09 gmcharlt     for two commits
04:10 gmcharlt     increase the number of '^' for the number of commits
04:10 mtompset     I was thinking of intermediate git bz attach BUGNUM HEAD during a git rebase -i ;)
04:10 mtompset     Would that work?
04:11 eythian      it would probably end in tears
04:11 eythian      man gitrevisions <-- more than you probably want to know
04:12 gmcharlt     yeah, there are a LOT of ways to refer to commits and commit ranges
04:12 mtompset     by the way, dcook you had the wrong slashes. EEEEVIL!
04:14 dcook        Hmm? Slashes?
04:14 * Oak        waves
04:14 Oak          hello dcook
04:14 dcook        heya Oak
04:15 * dcook      seems to recall a conversations about the difference between ~ and ^ in git
04:15 dcook        Of course, I can't 100% recall it. Just that they seem to do the same thing, but they're not really doing the same thing.
04:16 eythian      I think ~n is for picking the n'th parent (usually commits have one, but merges may have more.)
04:16 mtompset     line 64 of man gitrevisions has a pretty tree which explains the mess.
04:16 eythian      whereas ^n is for picking the (great(grand(parent)))
04:16 * Oak        waves to Mr Robin and mtompset
04:16 eythian      hi Oak
04:17 mtompset     Greetings, Oak.
04:17 Oak          :)
04:17 * mtompset   is waiting for jatara to make the patch changes.
04:17 mtompset     At least I'll get a sign off before going to bed tonight.
04:17 Oak          mtompset++
04:17 dcook        eythian: Yeah, maybe that was it. I seem to recall a difference between parents and ancestors but maybe my brain is just scrambled
04:18 eythian      well, you can have more than one parent.
04:18 eythian      And your ancestors differ along those paths.
04:19 eythian      it's just a way of expressing different paths against the direction within a directed acyclic graph.
04:19 eythian      easy peasy.
04:19 dcook        hehe
04:19 dcook        Although how would you differentiate between paths?
04:19 eythian      they're ordered.
04:19 mtompset     Each level is numbered left to right...
04:19 dcook        Mmm, right
04:20 mtompset     ^^3^2 = ^1^3^2.
04:20 mtompset     In the case of a multiple bz comit.
04:20 jatara       almost done
04:20 * dcook      thinks he is missing some git man pages..
04:20 mtompset     We get away with ^^^^^^^^^ because it's linear.
04:20 mtompset     (well, however many ^'s)
04:24 eythian      [off] new themed bootstrap Koha installation, not yet live: http://pcanz.koha.catalystdemo.net.nz/
04:24 dcook        [off] eythian: lookin' rad
04:25 dcook        oleonard++
04:25 Oak          oooh lookin' good
04:26 dcook        I know I've asked this before but when did the Bootstrap OPAC come about? 3.14?
04:26 eythian      yeah
04:26 * dcook      is going to push for our next upgrade to be to 3.14
04:27 mtompset     Actually, I have a question. wouldn't most people want the top black bar BELOW the photo?
04:27 dcook        I don't think so
04:27 dcook        Well, maybe some
04:27 wahanui      maybe some are explained more in the manual, but ultimately, you can look at the sql files for the full detail.
04:28 eythian      I think that's quite hard to do with bootstrap
04:28 dcook        Depends if they're going for common look and feel, or an app that looks good
04:28 mtompset     wahanui: forget maybe some
04:28 wahanui      mtompset: I forgot maybe some
04:28 eythian      especially as in mobile that becomes a menu bar.
04:30 mtompset     Oh, jatara, the other question I was wondering about. Do you only need this for the bootstrap theme?
04:31 dcook        mtompset: I think the prevailing notion these days is that bootstrap is the template to develop for, and only to do other ones if you can be fussed
04:32 mtompset     I agree that is the general notion, but prog might still be worth doing -- for backwards patchability to 3.12.x
04:32 dcook        I was pondering that last night with one of my latest patches. But...
04:33 mtompset     Of course... an enhancement would never make it in... so, I can understand not doing prog.
04:33 gmcharlt     backwards patchability for prog to 3.12.x only matters for bugfixes
04:34 jatara       patch's up
04:35 mtompset     jatara: Uh no.
04:35 mtompset     There was no need to change the sysprefs.sql
04:35 jatara       isnt the default supposed to be 0?
04:35 mtompset     Chris said that a default install of no prompting is fine.
04:36 mtompset     1 = prompting, 0 = no prompting.
04:36 gmcharlt     a default of prompting is also fine
04:36 jatara       so sysprefs.sql is for new installs and updatedatabase.pl is for updating existing ones?
04:36 gmcharlt     I don't see any a priori reason to prefer one over the other
04:36 mtompset     okay... fine with me.
04:36 mtompset     Yes.
04:37 mtompset     sysprefs.sql is for new installs, and updatedatabase.pl is for updating existing ones.
04:37 jatara       Gotcha.
04:37 jatara       do i also need to add this to the ccsr directory as well? that's how i got started with this patch in the first place -- we need it in our library
04:38 jatara       we have 3.12 and just moved to the ccsr theme
04:38 gmcharlt     jatara: not necessary; ccsr will default to the prog .tt files
04:39 jatara       where does bootstrap come in?
04:40 gmcharlt     jatara: later -- it needs to be included in the patch because bootstrap is the new default OPAC theme
04:41 gmcharlt     but for your specific catalog, you'd have to upgrade to 3.14 to see it in action
04:41 mtompset     oh, if you are using the ccsr theme, then you should include the prog theme in your changes.
04:42 mtompset     an upgrade isn't going to jump you to bootstrap.
04:42 jatara       i do need this in 3.12 -- we are months away from upgrading to 3.14
04:43 jatara       so how can the patch also be incorporated in 3.12.x?
04:46 gmcharlt     jatara: that's ultimately up to the release maintainer for 3.12.x
04:46 mtompset     roll your own distribution?
04:47 jatara       ok
04:51 mtompset     Ah... the Koha.Preference() is cached during the session?
04:54 mtompset     It's not like people will change the system preference after some self-checkout has logged in.
04:58 mtompset     Oh, another thing, jatara.
04:58 mtompset     Not anything bad, but for future reference.
04:59 mtompset     It's always a good idea to include your test plan in the commit message of the patch.
04:59 jatara       will do.
05:00 mtompset     That way as you build a multi-patch bug fix or enhancement, each piece can be individually tested.
05:00 mtompset     In your case, this is really small, and you did put a test plan in comment #2.
05:01 mtompset     Also... are you planning on doing prog?
05:01 mtompset     I'm willing to wait a bit more, if you want to get that up there.
05:02 mtompset     Otherwise, I'll just sign off what is here.
05:02 jatara       i will also do prog as well
05:02 jatara       but not tonight
05:02 jatara       i'll have a patch up by tomorrow
05:03 jatara       my brain is overwhelmed :)
05:03 mtompset     It's an easy patch for prog. You just need to make the same template changes to the sco-main.tt under prog.
05:04 jatara       just change the one file?
05:04 mtompset     Yes. :)
05:04 jatara       if it's just one file, i'll knock it out now.
05:04 jatara       hold on.
05:12 jatara       here we go
05:12 jatara       it's up
05:18 mtompset     Just confirmed that 3.12.x does have the ability to [% use koha %]
05:19 jatara       that's great news for our librarians.
05:19 jatara       they will be happy to see that pop up box go away
05:23 mtompset     restoring old DB... retesting.
05:23 jatara       crossing my fingers
05:24 jatara       and toes
05:29 mtompset     I'm not going to retest the scratch installation, since you didn't change any of that. It works for prog too. :)
05:30 jatara       whoohoo!
05:37 jatara       this has been a pretty good night
05:37 jatara       my first signed-off patch, the first of many more :)
05:38 jatara       thanks so much for walking me through the process
05:39 dcook        @query "Local subject"
05:39 huginn       dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3092 normal, P1 - high, ---, frederic, NEW , Data values storage and use 100 bug meta-bug
05:39 huginn       dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5068 critical, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , in add MARC record interface, concatenation of repeatable subfields in subject heading tags
05:39 huginn       dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8686 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Raise required version of URI::Escape to 3.31
05:39 huginn       dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Retrieve facets from Zebra
05:39 huginn       dcook: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10012 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Remove all traces of NoZebraIndexes
05:39 cait         congrats jatara :)
05:39 jatara       thank you!
05:39 dcook        jatara++
05:41 mtompset     Oh shoot.
05:42 mtompset     jatara: tab issues.
05:42 jatara       tab issues?
05:42 mtompset     do not use tabs, use 4 spaces.
05:42 jatara       ok...i'll definitely keep that in mind
05:43 pastebot     "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tab issues." (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/63
05:43 mtompset     You need to fix them.
05:43 mtompset     Otherwise I need to UNSIGN these.
05:43 mtompset     I really need to run the qa test tool first.
05:44 mtompset     Or is it good enough that *I* fix them?
05:44 mtompset     cait?
05:44 wahanui      i guess cait is a bit worried about lumping all code into a single file a sa first step
05:44 * dcook      thinks QA sometimes take care of it the first or second time it happens
05:44 cait         i will fix the tabs
05:45 cait         don't worry about the tabs, and jatara can do it next time
05:45 jatara       absolutely.
05:45 jatara       thanks so much, cait
05:45 cait         np
05:45 cait         hope to qa in a bit, but if not during the weeken dfor sure
05:45 dcook        cait++
05:46 dcook        A trooper through and through
05:46 cait         ?
05:47 jatara       i've been tackling this for a while tonight .. it's nearly midnight here
05:47 jatara       me posting patches and waiting for testing
05:47 jatara       him testing and me waiting for results
05:47 dcook        cait: You work hard :)
05:48 dcook        jatara: It gets faster in time :)
05:48 dcook        My first patch was small but took me a while
05:48 jatara       i look forward to it
05:49 jatara       i'm going to head out as it's nearly midnight here and i have to work in the AM. thanks so much, guys and have a great day/night.
05:49 jatara       :)
05:51 mtompset     Okay I signed it off, and noted tabs to be fixed.
05:54 dcook        Hmm, I wonder why we removed all the tinymce plugins...I suppose if we didn't need them...but it's a bit of a pain to add some in now
05:54 dcook        Ah, there are some older releases..
05:56 mtompset     Well, it's 1am here. I'm off to bed.
05:56 mtompset     Have a great day.
06:24 cait         dcook: look at branches
06:24 cait         dcook: there we have an wysiwyg editor
06:24 cait         for the opac info box
06:24 cait         or at opac news
06:25 dcook        Yeah, I was looking at opac news
06:25 dcook        Alas, we only have the plugins that we're currently using
06:26 * dcook      wants to add an image button
06:26 dcook        Blah, koha-patches...why do you think I'm not a member..
06:28 Oak          Guten morgen cait
06:28 dcook        Ack, where does the time go...
06:28 dcook        Night all
06:28 wahanui      goodnight dcook. You'll be back.
06:28 Oak          night dco
06:28 cait         hi Oak :)
06:42 magnus_away  Oak
06:44 * magnuse    waves
06:50 Oak          magnuse
06:50 Oak          :)
06:54 magnuse      :-)
06:55 cait         @wunder Konstanz
06:55 huginn       cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.1°C (7:50 AM CET on January 09, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
06:55 cait         hmm
06:55 magnuse      @wunder boo
06:55 huginn       magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 09, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
06:55 magnuse      a bit of snow this morning, yes
07:03 cait         very foggy here
07:03 cait         hope i can find my way to work ;)
07:03 cait         bbl
07:52 cait         hi #koha
07:52 marcelr      hi #koha
08:01 alex_a       bonjour
08:01 wahanui      bidet, alex_a
08:07 marcelr      hi alex_a
08:12 gaetan_B     hello
08:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_Docs_3.14.x
08:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.14.x build #1: SUCCESS in 2 min 51 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.14.x/1/
08:24 kivilahtio   Is it just me but did "Patron messaging preferences" use to have print and feed and phone in addition to sms and email?
08:33 magnuse_     kivilahtio: mine has: Days in advance - Email - Digests only? for the column headings
08:34 magnuse_     sms might turn up there if you enable it, or put in a SMS driver in the right syspref
08:34 kivilahtio   magnuse_: yes
08:34 kivilahtio   magnuse_: also it looks like the feed part has been disabled  in the code
08:35 kivilahtio   magnuse_: seems to be there is no print opttion
08:35 kivilahtio   magnuse_: I am pretty sure there was a print option before january?
08:35 cait         feed was never implemented
08:35 cait         print never existed
08:35 kivilahtio   cait: thanks
08:35 cait         phone might become visible when you add some configuration for the phone notifications
08:35 kivilahtio   cait: Itiva TalkingTech Phone
08:36 kivilahtio   cait: I wonder how we send print notices to our patrons? bug 10845 deals with this inderectly by sending a print notification if sms or email is configured but contact details are missing
08:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10845 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Multi transport types for holds
08:36 MrAgent075   Good Evening all.
08:38 cait         you can only send print for overdues and hold notifications currently
08:39 cait         when no email is defined, i am not sure how this will changed with the new development by biblibre
08:42 kivilahtio   MrAgent075: good morning!
09:11 petter       good morning koha!
09:12 petter       about Koha's git repo
09:12 petter       Is it possible for someone to make the github repo automatically sync?
09:13 petter       We cannot use git protocoll because of our firewall
09:13 petter       So we really need an up to date git repo available over http/https
09:15 rangi        http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git is automatically up to date
09:15 petter       ah cool!
09:15 petter       I'll track that instead
09:15 petter       thank you:)
09:20 petter       hm
09:20 petter       I get:
09:20 petter       fatal: http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git/info/refs not valid: is this a git repository?
09:22 petter       I think that address only servers the html frontend
09:24 petter       Does noone else work behind corporate firewalls? Its very common for port 9418 (which git uses) to be blocked :(
09:25 magnuse_     petter: did you use http://repo.or.cz/r/koha.git ?
09:26 rangi        works for me
09:26 magnuse_     petter: note the /r/ instead of /w/
09:26 petter       ah!
09:26 rangi        petter: only behind sane corporate firewalls, who actually open ports for the users they actually exist to serve, outbound port 9148 blocking is just silly
09:26 petter       my bad
09:27 petter       I'll try again
09:27 petter       rangi: I agree
09:27 petter       our muncipality firewall is totally nazi
09:27 rangi        IT depts, ruining it for everybody since 1982
09:27 magnuse      amen to that
09:28 magnuse      i became my own it department right after the it department at my old place of work began blocking me from installing things on my desktop pc
09:28 petter       YES! Its working, thank you :)
09:29 rangi        excellent
09:30 magnuse      yay
09:32 * petter     wants to be his own department too..
09:53 Joubu        hi all
09:54 paxed        perhaps you feel like they're nazis because you know how to work with computers, but 95% of users do not, but keep on clicking on all the "hit the monkey for $100000" ads and other crap.
09:55 rangi        and how exactly does firewall outbound 9418 stop that?
09:55 rangi        ding ding, it doesn't
09:56 rangi        and any competent IT person could pinhole it for the users that needed it
09:59 rangi        hi Joubu
10:04 * rangi      goes to sleep
11:10 nlegrand     hello #koha
11:38 cait         lots of italian koha users on the list .)
11:51 drojf        hi #koha. and a happy new year :)
11:59 tcohen       morning #koha
12:00 tcohen       @later tell jcamins they all pass now
12:00 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:00 cait         hi drojf :)
12:00 cait         schönes Neues Jahr!
12:00 tcohen       hi cait
12:01 tcohen       is it Paul's birthday?
12:01 cait         hi tcohen
12:02 drojf        hi cait :) danke, dir auch :)
12:13 tcohen       hi drojf
12:13 drojf        hi tcohen :)
12:42 tcohen       what's hot on bz?
12:43 tcohen       need to procrastinate
12:47 paul_p       hi tcohen Thx for your personnal email ;-)
12:47 paul_p       tcohen = no need to procastinate today ! it's my birthday ! only celebration & happyness please :D
12:47 paul_p       bag = happy birthday to you as well ;-)
12:48 cait         happy birthday paul_p :)
12:49 cait         bag: and happy birthday to you!
12:49 paul_p       cait ;-)
12:49 tcohen       happy birthday paul_p and bag! o/
12:49 paul_p       tcohen = I saw your wedding photos. they're wonderful !
12:50 tcohen       thanks, we are still waiting for the official photos
12:50 kivilahtio   paul_p: Happy birthday indeed, dare I ask how many years you have under your belt?
12:50 paul_p       kivilahtio 46
12:50 kivilahtio   paul_p: congratulations!
12:50 paul_p       tcohen = just one question : is the main photo of the album the one of your wife ?
12:51 tcohen       it should heh
12:51 tcohen       let me check just in case
12:51 magnuse      caongrats to paul_p and bag!
12:52 magnuse      and just in case anyone had any doubt: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/07/norway-greatest-place-on-earth_n_4550413.html ;-)
12:52 paul_p       hey, and it seems it's also the birthday of Eliott davis, if google+ is not wrong !!!
12:52 tcohen       paul_p: it is
12:52 paul_p       magnuse after Marseille, of course, isn't it ? ;)
12:52 kivilahtio   paul_p: What was the deal with this friday @ Lyons 3?
12:52 magnuse      paul_p: no comment ;-)
12:52 kivilahtio   any links?
12:53 kivilahtio   somesort of bigfest?
12:53 paul_p       kivilahtio deal ?
12:53 kivilahtio   erm bugfest
12:53 kivilahtio   what is happening, how do I join, etc...
12:53 magnuse      bigfest sounds like fun too :-)
12:53 paul_p       kivilahtio = it's just Lyon 3 that has invited all interested library to join them (in the same office), to have a day of bugtesting. a kind of local hackfest.
12:53 kivilahtio   it might be my next party theme
12:53 kivilahtio   paul_p: ok
12:53 magnuse      kivilahtio: hop on the plane to lyons :-)
12:54 paul_p       kivilahtio so yes, a kind of bugfest
12:54 kivilahtio   I will hop to a plane towards Eilat, Israel in two weeks
12:54 paul_p       magnuse do you know that the "AirFrance domestic flights" are now operated by ... HOP ! (not kidding)
12:55 paul_p       magnuse http://www.hop.fr/ "530 flights every day"
12:56 magnuse      paul_p: nice
12:56 magnuse      hoho - hop on hop off
12:57 kivilahtio   hops maybe?
12:57 paul_p       time to go to my next meeting !
13:11 pablito      hi everyone
13:11 pablito      does anyone have experience installing PazPar2 for Koha?
13:19 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:23 tcohen       hi oleonard pablito
13:23 pablito      hi tcohen
13:23 pablito      do you have experience installing pazpar2?
13:24 tcohen       i don0t pablito
13:40 magnuse      pablito: i think very few people have experience with PazPar2 and koha - you might have more luck on the mailinglist
13:40 pablito      what is the mailinglist?
13:41 oleonard     mailing lists?
13:41 wahanui      mailing lists are http://koha-community.org/support/koha-mailing-lists/
13:42 pablito      thanks maguse and wahanui! :-)
13:42 pablito      *magnuse :-)
14:01 magnuse      i have a terrible feeling i solved this for someone else already, but here goes...
14:01 magnuse      if two libraries in one koha installation wants to avoid the "Item in transit from libraryX to libraryY since..." message when they return each others items, what should they do?
14:04 cait         hm no transports?
14:04 cait         do they not want to send the items back?
14:04 cait         or do they just not want to see the message?
14:05 magnuse      they are in the same building, so when they return something from the other library they just put it in their pile - they don't need koha to track transfers/transit stuff
14:06 cait         hmm
14:07 cait         yu could do a floating collection, but i think then they would still have to check it in
14:07 cait         when it comes back
14:07 cait         to reset it to the right holding library
14:07 magnuse      yeah, that is almost worse ;-)
14:08 francharb    I dont think there is a set up to disable transfer
14:09 francharb    What I would do is to set up the same branch for both libraries, give the library name into items.location
14:09 francharb    and put shelving location into items.ccode
14:10 francharb    and if they have ccode, well, I have no idea where to put that... ;)
14:10 magnuse      hehe
14:11 francharb    that the set up I would do to avoid transfer between these two libraries
14:11 francharb    ;)
14:11 cait         but if you want to divide acq etc branches might be good... depends on the ther things the library wants to do i guess
14:11 magnuse      the reason we created two libraries in the first place was that one of them wants to send out overdue message and the other one does not, so having two branches/libraries is a given, i'm afraid
14:12 cait         hm that's a hard one yes
14:12 francharb    ok
14:12 cait         do they share patrons?
14:12 magnuse      yup
14:12 francharb    the minimum would be " AutomaticItemReturn " so they dont have to confirm transfer messages
14:13 * cait       nods
14:13 cait         but still have to check in
14:13 cait         to mark the item home
14:13 francharb    yup
14:14 magnuse      yeah, that is set to "transfer automatically"
14:14 tcohen       hmm, the dashboard is failing to connect to the DB
14:15 cait         oh it is
14:17 magnuse      and it almost gave away the password :-)
14:21 magnuse      so maybe just a cronjob to periodically delete from branchtransfers?
14:22 cait         hm and reset holding library
14:23 tcohen       magnuse: can u tell how what do u think about bug 10942?
14:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10942 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Provide a way for package upgrades to update template translations
14:24 tcohen       not the patch, but the idea, and the way you'd handle
14:25 tcohen       the problem for average users of having outdated template translations
14:27 magnuse      yeah, upgrading the templates sounds like a good idea to me
14:27 magnuse      not sure about how to do it, though
14:27 magnuse      eythian probably knows "the debian  way to do things" better than me
14:28 tcohen       i propose a configuration variable-driven aproach (automatic template updates) and posibly some check+warning if automatic=off
14:31 magnuse      cait: homebranch amd holdingbranch does not seem to be affected
14:31 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
14:31 magnuse      hiya mtompset
14:31 mtompset     Greetings, cait magnuse
14:32 cait         magnuswhen you check it in, it shoudl have holdingbranch = return library
14:32 cait         which is not the home library
14:33 mtompset     That makes sense to me, and I don't even know what you are talking about. :)
14:35 mtompset     http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/Letter+Clearing+misconceptions+about+librarians/9363024/story.html
14:36 mtompset     Perhaps might be an interesting read for others.
14:53 tcohen       hi mtompset
14:53 mtompset     Greetings, tcohen.
14:58 Dyrcona      mtompset: It is an interesting read, though preaching to the choir in my case. :)
15:00 mtompset     Dyrcona: I know, but even the choir needs to have those, "YES! EXACTLY! Correct that misconception! YES!" type moments. :)
15:00 Dyrcona      :)
15:01 * mtompset   hates po files.
15:01 mtompset     They are too big!
15:02 Dyrcona      heh.
15:02 Dyrcona      I just added gettext/boost::locale support to one of my utilities. The po files are small, but there are only 21 translatable strings.
15:04 pablito      hi
15:04 pablito      can someone tell me what OpacGroupResults does?
15:05 cait         it's related to pazpar2
15:05 cait         activating a different template for the opac results page
15:05 cait         i am not sure if it's fully functional at the moment
15:05 pablito      what's the advantage of it over regular search?
15:05 tcohen       group several editions of a title
15:05 cait         it can pull in other data over z39.50 from remote servers
15:06 pablito      ah ok
15:06 pablito      thanks
15:06 pablito      cait, you are right, it's not functional now
15:07 cait         I know there is a patch wiating to be tested, that will allow to search other z39.50 targets from within koha
15:07 cait         it might use pazpar2, i haven't taken a closer look yet
15:07 jcamins      It does use pazpar2, but as it hasn't work in ages, if ever, it's not very useful IMO.
15:08 jcamins      tcohen: hooray!
15:08 tcohen       hi jcamins
15:08 mtompset     never hurts to read the documentation, pablito. http://koha-community.org/documentation/
15:09 jcamins      Hello.
15:09 cait         bug 10486
15:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Failed QA , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
15:09 pablito      the documentation doesn't say much about it
15:09 mtompset     Okay.
15:09 cait         rangi had it working ages ago with project gutenberg i think, but it was only after fixing some things i think
15:09 jcamins      pablito: yeah, that's because it hasn't worked.
15:09 cait         i guess the best bet rightnow is that bug ^^
15:09 jcamins      Agreed.
15:09 pablito      hehe
15:19 pastebot     "tcohen" at 172.22.66.78 pasted "template translations update needed warning" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/64
15:21 gmcharlt     s/update\./updated./
15:21 gmcharlt     oh, scratch that, I misread
15:22 gmcharlt     though I think that "not set to be automatically updated." reads a tick better
15:22 mtompset     But that makes it less active.
15:22 mtompset     I think the way it is there is fine.
15:23 mtompset     What I would recommend is trying to avoid personal pronouns like "you" in the instructions.
15:23 gmcharlt     why? "One can run"... would be a little stiff
15:24 mtompset     "The command 'koha-translate --list' lists the installed translations codes."
15:24 mtompset     Because the focus isn't the user. The focus is the action they need to take.
15:26 mtompset     "Use 'koha-translate --list' to list the installed translations codes."
15:26 gmcharlt     mtompset: directly addressing the user makes it more likely that they will recognize that they need to do something
15:26 gmcharlt     this is not a manpage we're talking about here
15:27 mtompset     An implied 'you' is okay, as in the second case I wrote.
15:27 mtompset     I know, but using 'you' seems too informal.
15:28 mtompset     "Type 'koha-translate --list' to list the installed translations codes."
15:28 * tcohen     remembers we have "that's just silly" in the koha-list command's output and leaves to have lunch
15:29 gmcharlt     tcohen++
15:30 mtompset     Really?! Now that is just silly. :P
15:33 jcamins      Lunch?
15:33 wahanui      Lunch is probably a good idea :)
15:34 jcamins      Huh. I thought Argentina was only one hour ahead of EST.
15:34 jcamins      Oh! No DST!
15:34 mtompset     perhaps they ... right.
15:34 tcohen       12:34
15:35 tcohen       its summer holidays so we have to drive a bit far to get something to eat
15:35 jcamins      tcohen: I was thinking that 11:30 is a surprisingly early lunch, but we're two hours off when there's no DST here.
15:36 AmitG        Hi all
15:36 AmitG        hi cait
15:37 AmitG        heya druthb
15:37 AmitG        after long time on Koha irc chat
15:37 AmitG        ;)
15:38 rambutan     HI AmitG
15:39 * druthb     waves to AmitG
15:39 cait         hi AmitG
15:44 * gmcharlt   bounces the dashboard
15:44 gmcharlt     hmmm
15:47 AmitG        heya bag happy birthday ..... ;)
15:49 druthb       @quote random
15:49 huginn       druthb: Quote #194: "oleonard: Everyone will be all, Wow, that guys smells like he really wishes he could have sex!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:55 PM, March 29, 2012)
15:50 * druthb     boggles a little
15:52 nengard      um
15:53 oleonard     http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2012-03-29#i_934572
15:54 nengard      OH!!!
15:55 cait         heh
15:55 gmcharlt     jcamins was prescient - http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2012-03-29#i_934584
15:55 cait         @quote random
15:55 huginn       cait: Quote #148: "<oleonard> sekjal wants EVERYTHING in a matrix! <sekjal> I'm like the Anti-Neo" (added by wizzyrea at 05:11 PM, August 25, 2011)
15:55 jcamins      lol
15:55 jcamins      It was sort of inevitable.
15:58 pablito      i have a peculiar problem with the title display
15:59 pablito      In my search result in both OPAC and Admin side, it displays the remainder of the title first, then the main title
15:59 pablito      for example:
16:00 pablito      It is supposed to display "Theology of hope: On the ground and the implications of a Christian eschatology"
16:00 pablito      but instead it displays: "On the ground and the implications of a Christian eschatologyTheology of hope"
16:01 cait         interesting
16:01 wahanui      it has been said that interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
16:01 nengard      that's a new one ...
16:01 nengard      sounds to me like a XSLT issue
16:01 pablito      here's my MARC:
16:01 nengard      did someone cuztomize your stylesheets?
16:01 pablito      100 	1 		_aMoltmann, Jürgen
16:01 pablito      245 			_bOn the ground and the implications of a Christian eschatology
16:01 pablito      245 	1 	0 	_aTheology of hope
16:01 cait         are you using standard or xslt display?
16:02 nengard      OH!!
16:02 nengard      That's why
16:02 nengard      it's showing the first 245 first
16:02 cait         yep
16:02 cait         your subfields are reverse
16:02 pablito      uh oh
16:02 nengard      you want:
16:02 nengard      245    _aTheology of hope_bOn the ground and the implications of a Christian eschatology
16:02 nengard      only 1 245 field
16:02 nengard      not 2
16:02 pablito      it's like that for 30,000+ recordss
16:02 nengard      i'd say try marcedit
16:02 nengard      and merge the 245s together in to 1
16:02 * cait       nods
16:03 nengard      I think if $b is before $a in the field is fine
16:03 nengard      not according to the rules, but fine
16:03 cait         having 2 is not good at all
16:04 pablito      is there any way to fix the problem in koha?
16:04 pablito      can i do some kind of batch job on all the records?
16:05 cait         there is no built in feature that coudl do that
16:05 cait         maybe you want to check if it's really 2 245 using the export
16:06 cait         i have to go :) bye all
16:08 nengard      The 245 field is not repeatable according to MARC standards: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd245.html  (see the NR at the top)
16:08 nengard      You can only have 1
16:09 nengard      check out http://marcedit.reeset.net/ - export your data from koha and in to that and you can merge the 245s together and then reload in to Koha
16:13 slef         hi. On Bug 8375, can anyone see why would an o-umlaut show the bug? That's in latin-1 isn't it?
16:13 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Signed Off , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
16:13 slef         @seen paul_p
16:13 huginn       slef: paul_p was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <paul_p> time to go to my next meeting !
16:14 slef         if someone confirms that I'm not being stupid, I'll reply to the bug and ask that :)
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16:41 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: add AcquisitionDetails
16:42 gaetan_B     bye !
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16:53 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add AcquisitionDetails
16:53 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update acq with info about AcquisitionDetails
16:53 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add image to AcquisitionDetails
16:53 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update patron duplicate checking
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16:56 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add image to AcquisitionDetails
16:56 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update acq with info about AcquisitionDetails
16:56 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update patron duplicate checking
16:57 slef         I left a comment on bug 8375 anyway
16:57 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Signed Off , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF
16:59 nengard      what order is the holdings table on the opac and staff client in by default? is that just itemnumber?
16:59 nengard      I think it is but would love confirmation :)
16:59 nengard      hi slef! long time no talk
16:59 nengard      how's things?
17:02 tcohen       hi cait
17:03 * cait       waves weekly
17:03 cait         hm weakly :)
17:04 tcohen       tired?
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17:06 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: update patron duplicate checking
17:52 tcohen       jcamins: bug 10688 doesn't seem to fix the problem in 3.12.x, or i'm getting it wrong
17:52 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10688 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , QueryParser doesn't recognize QP queries when used in a fielded search box
17:52 pastebot     "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "looking for some jquery help if anyone has a moment - these attempts haven't worked" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/65
17:59 oleonard     nengard: document.ready probably won't work because the table isn't processed by the tablesorter until document.ready
17:59 nengard      oh .... what do i use instead?
18:00 nengard      after.document.ready :) hehe
18:00 oleonard     I would first try to get it working in the Firebug console, then try to figure out how to fire it at the right time
18:00 nengard      haven't used the console in firebug - but the inspector
18:00 nengard      just the inspector i mean
18:01 nengard      would need a tutorial on how to use it cause all I see are a bunch of errors
18:03 nengard      oh i get it
18:03 nengard      i type the js in there and see if it works
18:04 nengard      is there a way to remove an attribute? so make the item type column not have the aria-sort attribute
18:04 nengard      .attr adds one
18:04 oleonard     removeAttr()
18:04 nengard      well that makes sense
18:08 nengard      so i can make the classes all change right, but that doesn't actually make it sort :(
18:09 nengard      so the answer to this might be - nope
18:10 cait         nengard: what are you trying to do?
18:10 nengard      make the call number sorted asc on load of the record - as the default
18:10 nengard      I can put the right attributes in place on the field but that's not the magic that makes it sort
18:14 cait         hm wonder if one can simulate a click
18:14 kivilahtio   phew
18:14 kivilahtio   migrating our data is SO MUCH WORK
18:15 kivilahtio   or maybe I could work smarter :)
18:15 kivilahtio   take care #koha!
18:21 nengard      i know you can grab a click with onclick ... but not sure you can say 'click this'
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18:58 slef         hi nengard - sorry, today is a 2 meeting day :-/
18:58 nengard      no problemo
18:59 mtompset     nengard: 'click this' as in a tool tip?
19:03 oleonard     mtompset: You don't understand: Librarians have no clicks to spare.
19:04 mtompset     I supposed. I read back further, like I should have. :)
19:04 tcohen       end of a quite busy day
19:04 tcohen       bye #koha!
19:04 rangi        cya tcohen
19:04 mtompset     bye tcohen
19:05 tcohen       hey rangi
19:05 tcohen       its been a while!
19:05 tcohen       bye!
19:09 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #164: STILL UNSTABLE in 30 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/164/
19:09 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9728: XISBN unit test update
19:09 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11439: UT: fix XISBN.t test failure
19:09 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11439: UT: Improve XISBN.t
19:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9728 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, XISBN use simple search instead of SQL
19:10 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11439 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , UT: XISBN.t returns failure
19:12 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11457: avoid spurious test failure in t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8209bf10269c36c1bb8d4b2da23fe356ab7a3568>
19:16 bag          hello
19:16 gmcharlt     hi bag
19:16 * bag        is jet lagged
19:16 gmcharlt     happy birthday!
19:16 oleonard     Hi bag, happy birthday!
19:17 bag          thanks galen and owen
19:17 magnuse      yeah, gratulerer med dagen bag!
19:17 bag          thanks magnuse
19:18 cait         alles gute zum Geburtstag bag :)
19:19 bag          thanks cait
19:19 bag          Ginny decided that 1am to 4am last night was really the middle of the afternoon and wanted to party away
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19:25 magnuse      hm, should koha be able to understand a search for "a and (b or c)"?
19:25 cait         wth the query parser i think it should
19:25 cait         not sure if it will work well without
19:27 magnuse      i'm seeing the opposite. without the queryparser i get 21 hits, then i turn it on and get 0 hits
19:28 cait         interesting
19:28 wahanui      interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
19:28 cait         and the results match?
19:29 magnuse      yeah, the 21 hits look ok
19:30 rangi        brb coffee time
19:32 magnuse      and if i add more words with "or" inside the parenthesis the number of hits increases, as it should
19:34 cait         hm
19:34 cait         i think question is
19:34 cait         does it (a and b) or c
19:35 cait         or a and (b or c)
19:35 cait         i thought someone said the () didn't work as epected, but even better if they do
19:35 magnuse      yeah. i don't know the collection well enough to tell if the numbers make sense
19:36 magnuse      but at least they are not way off
19:39 rangi        back
19:43 oleonard     Catalyst Academy going on now rangi?
19:44 rangi        yep
19:44 rangi        learning week
19:44 rangi        ibeardslee: what are they doing today
19:44 rangi        ?
19:44 rangi        next week is project week
19:45 rangi        tues-fri .. so should have a bunch of students ready to do stuff
19:45 rangi        i thought maybe bootstrap3 stuff might be useful?
19:45 gmcharlt     indeed
19:47 magnuse      yay!
19:48 magnuse      hm, "x y" gives 75 hits, "x and y" gives 7 - that seems not right...
19:48 magnuse      "y x" also gives 75, "y and x" gives 8!
19:52 oleonard     gmcharlt: Still here?
19:52 wahanui      here is where I work
19:52 gmcharlt     oleonard: yes
19:52 oleonard     Re: Your email, the short answer is no.
19:54 cait         magnusi tihnk with queryparser it's &&
19:54 oleonard     The fix in Joubu's follow-up patch I probably didn't recognize as a bug per se but a possible improvement
19:54 cait         not and
19:54 cait         magnus
19:55 gmcharlt     oleonard: gotcha
19:55 magnuse      cait: ok, lemme check that
19:56 cait         magnuse: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9239
19:56 huginn       04Bug 9239: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Koha should share Evergreen's QueryParser module for parsing queries
19:57 magnuse      cait: then i get the same numbers for "a b" and "a && b"
19:59 oleonard     @seen chris_n
19:59 huginn       oleonard: chris_n was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 0 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: * chris_n looks
20:00 * oleonard   wondered if chris_n had really been around lately
20:00 * oleonard   should pay more attention
20:00 ibeardslee   rangi: they are doing databases in teh morning and then php this afternoon
20:01 rangi        ahh cool, chilts is around today too eh?
20:03 ibeardslee   I saw that he was going to be
20:07 magnuse      cait: "a && (b)" gives 75 hits, "a && (b || c)" gives 34 - that does not seem right
20:07 cait         true
20:07 magnuse      "a && (b || c || d)" gies 3
20:07 cait         and i assume qp is on
20:10 magnuse      cait: yup, that is with UseQueryParser = Try...
20:10 cait         hm bit puzzled.
20:12 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #300: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/300/
20:12 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 11457: avoid spurious test failure in t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t
20:12 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11457 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t can fail when subscription table is not empty
20:18 gmcharlt     tossing out an idea based on the the item types thread on the mailing list
20:19 gmcharlt     what would people think of arranging to have the version number string baked into koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/doc-head-close.inc or the like, as well as plugging in the version number taken from the database?
20:20 gmcharlt     that way, one would be able to write a bit of JavaScript that would detect if one forgot to update your translated templates
20:22 cait         I'd like that...
20:22 cait         thinking about how often we forgot
20:22 magnuse      cait: yup, but that is a puzzle for another day, need to relax a bit now
20:23 magnuse      have fun #koha!
20:23 cait         do that:)
20:23 cait         bye magnus
20:45 gmcharlt     khall_away: about?
20:50 mtompset     gmcharlt: I just read your comment about correcting $total instead of work arounds.
20:50 mtompset     I have a question: how? The results are never more than the amount to display on a given page.
20:51 mtompset     There's no way to filter through all the results to count them ourselves.
20:51 gmcharlt     part of it is just this: $total += @newresults
20:52 gmcharlt     may or may not be the complete picture, given the search-by-tag that opac-search.pl also supports
20:53 mtompset     Though, I do agree if there are <20 results, and only 1 visible, then the redirect should go to that.
20:56 mtompset     The problem becomes a search where there are 40 results, but only 1 visible, and it is on page 2.
20:59 gmcharlt     yeah, in the long term, materializing bib-vis-per-item-vis is needed
20:59 gmcharlt     either for search, or in the DB, or both
21:00 mtompset     So, I can see redirecting to a non-hardcoded [0].
21:00 gmcharlt     in any event, I'll have a counter patch for you to look at
21:01 mtompset     Because right now, it is hard coded to go to the first 1 (i.e. element [0]) if there is only 1 hit).
21:01 mtompset     But that doesn't make sense in terms of visibility.
21:03 mtompset     I'll be watching for a counter patch. :)
21:12 oleonard     Later #koha
21:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1591: SUCCESS in 2 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1591/
21:23 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 11457: avoid spurious test failure in t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t
21:23 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11457 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t can fail when subscription table is not empty
21:28 tcohen       gmcharlt: versioning the templates is a good idea, 10942 would help too
21:28 tcohen       I guess people updating the 'en' template often are those that do apt-get upgrade
21:36 cait         good night #koha
21:42 tcohen       @later tell gmcharlt maybe it can be a new test in about.pl
21:42 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
21:42 tcohen       bye #koha
21:43 eythian      hi
21:44 eythian      damnit, I was just about to sign off a patch. Turned out I'd written it in the first place.
21:46 gmcharlt     :)
21:53 rambutan     good thing you were ready to sign off on it and not fail it
23:09 MrAgent075   Hello all!
23:13 * MrAgent075 is making quite the observation. No one is here...
23:14 rambutan     Really quiet today. Has been lately, in fact
23:15 * bag        makes a loud banging noise
23:15 rambutan     ok, well, occasional exception
23:22 * dcook      pokes Auth.pm some more but sounds escape
23:22 dcook        no sounds*
23:46 pianohacker  dcook: the only sounds I've ever heard come out of Auth.pm are a nasty, wet splorch
23:47 wizzyrea     @quote add Pianohacker: the only sounds I've ever heard come out of Auth.pm are a nasty, wet splorch
23:47 huginn       wizzyrea: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
23:47 wizzyrea     curses.
23:47 pianohacker  rangi: How are you doing? Was about to talk tickets, but I figure you probably have higher priorities atm. Is Laurel all right?
23:47 dcook        pianohacker: It definitely sounds splorch-like
23:48 wizzyrea     @quote add Pianohacker: the only sounds I've ever heard come out of Auth.pm are a nasty, wet splorch
23:48 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.  Quote #287 added.
23:48 pianohacker  a monument to my wit and sometimes questionable grammar
23:49 wizzyrea     @quote search pianohacker
23:49 huginn       wizzyrea: 13 found: #10: "< pianohacker> You helped start an open source...", #142: "Pianohacker: hrm. What's the plural of ILS...", #18: "<pianohacker> nitpicking synergy FTW", #1: "<pianohacker> resolve, rather, I doubt it needs...", #257: "<pianohacker> That code has enough smells to...", #258: "*pianohacker has written very good code with...", #266: "<pianohacker> dpkg is a wonderful thing once...", #271: (1 more message)
23:50 dcook        hehe
23:53 pianohacker  bad jokes since 2009â„¢
23:55 pianohacker  also hi, dcook and wizzyrea. How are you guys doing?
23:57 dcook        heya pianohacker. Mmm, doin'. It's Friday, so that's a thing.
23:57 dcook        You?
23:57 wahanui      You is smart
23:58 pianohacker  why thank you dcook. And I'm just jumping back into the insanity of school