Time Nick Message
23:51 mtompset question. Is 541$e identical in value to 952$i?
23:32 mtompset Greetings, papa.
23:32 mtompset I can't say that I drink, so I wouldn't know.
23:05 eythian I've never really been a fan
23:03 dcook Not that I was ever really off it..
23:02 dcook Jargaritas have brought me back around to tequila
23:02 eythian I didn't want to besmirch whisky, because I like it. But I suppose blaming it on whiskey is OK, I don't like that so much.
23:00 mtompset eythian: It's whiskey. xkcd is a reliable source, right? http://xkcd.com/323/
22:58 eythian That's Tequila Driven Development.
22:58 mtompset Is that what Microsoft does with Windows? ;)
22:57 wahanui test-driven development is just easier.
22:57 pianohacker mtompset: test-driven development
22:47 mtompset What is TDD, pianohacker?
22:46 mtompset TDD?
22:25 pianohacker applied TDD: submit failing patches until someone gets bugged enough to fix them
22:19 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
22:19 jcamins @later tell tcohen I like the subtests, but they should all pass. ;)
22:15 mtompset Greetings, nlegrand
22:13 francharb bye
22:07 nlegrand hey #koha
21:58 mtompset Greetings, BobB maximep pianohacker.
21:39 tcohen bye #koha
21:14 magnuse have fun #koha!
21:03 tcohen rangi++
21:03 tcohen good to hear
21:03 eythian tbh, all their ones are good ones, but that is a good good one :)
21:03 tcohen :-D
21:03 eythian ah, that is a good one.
21:03 tcohen pils n' thrills
21:02 eythian (well, they have a beer called "beer", but I suspect that's not it :)
21:02 eythian that's a brewery, not a beer :)
21:02 tcohen "garage project" ;-)
21:01 wahanui rumour has it which one is that? The fixed navbar
21:01 eythian which one?
21:01 * tcohen is about to open a nz beer rangi brought to reno
21:01 eythian tcohen: that's a bit much really :)
21:00 eythian mtompset: oh, OK, that's good too :)
21:00 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded.
21:00 nengard @later tell rangi the dashboard doesn't have all of the manual branches - no biggie, but there is a 3.12 and 3.14 branch missing from the 'build statuses' on the right
21:00 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 34.2°C (6:00 PM ART on January 08, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 14%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
21:00 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
21:00 tcohen hi eythian
20:59 mtompset no, the attach -e stuff.
20:59 eythian that is not summer!
20:59 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (9:30 AM NZDT on January 09, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising).
20:59 eythian @wunder nzwn
20:58 eythian oh, rebase stuff
20:58 eythian what'd I do?
20:58 mtompset eythian++ # for solving multiple people's problems. :)
20:58 wahanui salut, eythian
20:58 eythian hi
20:57 mtompset http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2013-12-30#i_1444033
20:56 mtompset Actually, in my case it was eythian. ;)
20:53 tcohen it was cait, that's for sure
20:52 mtompset I can't remember who told me about attach -e the other day, I'd blame them. ;)
20:51 tcohen mtompset: that's correct, I did that and will blame cait for the idea if something goes wrong about it :-P
20:50 magnuse kathryn: yeah, it will be interesting to see what they decide to do :-)
20:49 mtompset I think.
20:49 mtompset well, if you have them applying in the correct order then you can git bz attach -e them and obsolete the others.
20:49 kathryn magnuse: I'll follow olso public with interest! :)
20:48 * tcohen was reading the irc logs
20:48 tcohen mtompset: unfortunately i was talking about bugzilla
20:47 kathryn hiya mtompset
20:46 mtompset "is there a way to rearrange patches on a bug?"
20:46 tcohen mtompset: about?
20:46 tcohen ?
20:46 mtompset So did I address the correct question, or did I miss the problem, tcohen?
20:45 tcohen Hallo magnuse
20:45 tcohen hola magnuse
20:45 magnuse hola tcohen
20:44 magnuse in fact i'll be there from monday to wednesday nest week
20:43 magnuse kathryn: nah, as cait said i go there now and again
20:32 mtompset Greetings, bag magnuse kathryn.
20:31 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
20:31 mtompset @later tell tcohen: git rebase -i then cut and paste them into the correct order?
20:24 kathryn night cait
20:24 kathryn no matter! :)
20:24 wahanui goodnight cait. You'll be back.
20:24 cait night all
20:24 cait andi am going ot sleep :)
20:24 cait i think he goes there for business sometimes
20:24 cait kathryn: you might havemissed him - he often only wanders by in the evenings
20:14 kathryn hi magnuse are you spending much time in oslo?
20:13 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (8:50 PM CET on January 08, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
20:13 bag heya
20:13 magnuse @wunder boo
20:13 magnuse kia ora bag
20:13 kathryn and all the other good sorts
20:13 bag :)
20:13 kathryn oh hi bag :)
19:44 huginn bag: The operation succeeded.
19:44 bag @later tell paul_p happy birthday to you :)
19:43 bag hello
19:34 cait hi kathryn :)
19:34 kathryn hi cait :)
18:54 cait ohok
18:54 tcohen patch rearranging
18:53 cait huh?
18:53 tcohen cait: you know i'll say its your fault, right?
18:48 tcohen thanks!
18:48 tcohen yeap
18:48 cait with git bz apply -i you could do one after the other in the right sequence
18:48 cait and upload again
18:47 cait apply them all
18:47 cait i mean, make a branch
18:47 cait you could git bz
18:47 cait hm
18:47 tcohen what about the already signed ones?
18:47 cait do it again... only way i know
18:47 cait obsolete all
18:47 tcohen is there a way to rearrange patches on a bug?
18:31 tcohen hi rangi!
18:29 rangi yep, time to go to work now
18:27 cait happy rangi? :)
18:26 rangi *giggle*
18:26 rangi only 12 to symphony
18:26 rangi so if you want to count the numbers of those actually moving support company, koha wins
18:25 rangi with 595, but 497 of those were millenium to sierra, ie III to III
18:24 cait yep
18:24 rangi only one higher was sierra
18:24 rangi hiya
18:24 cait hi rangi
18:24 rangi so, 169 libraries (way more but 169 on libwebcats) moved to Koha in 2013
18:15 Joubu1 goodbye
18:04 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.22.66.78 pasted "jcamins: what about this time?" (246 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/62
18:01 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
17:50 cait hi JWellner
17:41 JWellner Good Morning Koha! :)
17:36 reiveune bye
17:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11483 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , new serial pages missing help
17:29 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11483: (follow-up) fix typos
17:29 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 11483: Add missing serial help files
17:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1590: SUCCESS in 2 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1590/
17:08 tcohen great
17:08 gmcharlt yes, like I did in my paste
17:08 tcohen a plan for the subtest can be made explicit
17:08 gmcharlt so upshot, doing that seems moderately useful, and I have no objection to it
17:08 gmcharlt and it looks like Jenkins knows how to parse subtest output correctly
17:07 tcohen yeap, that's what i have
17:06 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tcohen: so, putting the two together..." (43 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/61
17:06 * gmcharlt is a fan of always explicitly declaring test cunts
17:05 tcohen gmcharlt: if you run it with -v it will run fine (without it it seems that need to adjust the test plan to 4)
17:03 gmcharlt tcohen: ah, let me try that
17:03 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.22.66.78 pasted "gmcharlt: i mean this:" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/60
17:01 gmcharlt subtests have their place, too, but there doesn't seem to be a way to say "please run this subtest again and again"
17:01 tcohen :-d
17:01 tcohen i just want the output to be more useful
17:00 tcohen yes, it exists actually
17:00 gmcharlt kinda like what t/db_dependent/Search.t does now
17:00 gmcharlt etc.
17:00 gmcharlt run_tests('marc21', 'grs1')
17:00 gmcharlt run_tests('marc21', 'dom');
17:00 gmcharlt e.g.,
17:00 gmcharlt tcohen: I'd write a function that groups a bunch of tests together that can be called repeatedly
16:59 tcohen like in: subtest "MARC21 + DOM" => sub { run_marc21_tests("dom") } (or something pretty similar
16:59 tcohen should i prepend stuff like "($indexing_mode) " to each test, or should I just wrap each run in a subtest?
16:58 tcohen suppose we have some tests that are re-run on different configurations
16:58 jcamins tcohen: we like all tests in the test suite.
16:57 tcohen do we like subtests in the test suite?
16:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11483 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , new serial pages missing help
16:14 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11483: (follow-up) fix typos
16:14 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 11483: Add missing serial help files
16:14 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #299: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/299/
15:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1590 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11483: (follow-up) fix typos <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=00279b84802346db13f5df52c779f0c924b4b29c> / Bug 11483: Add missing serial help files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b160802bc17ad42309e40215d9303fca2fc07b0>
15:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #299 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:15 arunkumars3189 hello
15:15 wahanui hola, arunkumars3189
15:15 arunkumars3189 hello
15:14 cait well you better start now then ;)
15:13 oleonard No, no, that was all 2013.
15:13 cait oleonard++ # prettying things and stuff ;)
15:13 oleonard cait++ # for QA things and stuff
15:05 gmcharlt yep, I did the reset
15:04 druthb cait++ #too low. Needs more.
15:04 cait guess gmcharlt reset us
15:03 huginn cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
15:03 cait @karma cait
15:03 cait ah
15:03 huginn cait: kf has neutral karma.
15:03 cait @karma kf
14:25 jcamins tcohen: that sounds like a mistake.
14:25 tcohen jcamins: and the "Alternate holdings filled in correctly" test?
14:24 jcamins tcohen: GRS-1 may match a different number of records when searching for "salud."
14:23 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.22.66.78 pasted "gmcharlt jcamins : what do u think of this test results?" (210 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/59
14:23 fridolin see you
14:21 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "can anyon spot what i am doing wrong here?" (58 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/58
14:13 druthb waitaminit. How'd I get so high on the list? *tsk*
14:12 huginn druthb: "oleonard": 5, "gmcharlt": 4, "davidnind": 3, "druthb": 3, "ashimema": 3, "rangi": 3, "eythian": 2, "fridolin": 1, "davidmind": 1, "dcook": 1, "wizzyrea": 1, "Joubu": 1, "biblibre": 1, "sandboxes": 1, "tcohen": 1, "jatara": 1, "cait": 1, "marcelr": 1, "<arg>[<option>-v</option>|<option>": 0, "[[-v|": 0, "[-c|": 0, "[-r|": 0, "[-u|": 0, "[-i|": 0, and "Day": 0
14:12 druthb @most increased
14:08 oleonard :P
14:08 francharb ;)
14:08 francharb oleonard++ for being humble
14:07 oleonard That's not right. I haven't done a damn thing in 2014.
14:07 magnuse poor old <arg>
14:06 huginn magnuse: Highest karma: "oleonard" (4), "gmcharlt" (4), and "davidnind" (3). Lowest karma: "<arg>[<option>-v</option>|<option>" (-1), "[[-v|" (-1), and "[-c|" (-1).
14:06 magnuse @karma
14:06 druthb :)
14:04 oleonard My 2014 karma is pretty much exclusively nostalgia-related.
14:01 druthb oleonard++ #thanks for the good memories invoked by seeing that.
14:01 druthb yep, that's the ones.
14:00 jcamins Huh.
14:00 oleonard http://starwars77-80.blogspot.com/2010/10/topps-trading-cards-series-1.html
14:00 jcamins druthb: oh. That sounds very boring.
13:59 druthb before that, jcamins, there were collectible cards that weren't a game. I had some of those, back-when.
13:59 * oleonard scoffs at those newfangled game cards
13:59 jcamins oleonard: but the Star Wars cards were actually a game. Sort of like MTG.
13:57 * oleonard is still waiting for the Star Wars movie trading card market to explode
13:57 magnuse the most expensive items are... not cheap
13:55 magnuse ebay has 3,079,648 results for baseball cards
13:52 jcamins Oh, sure, but I'm trying to understand on a micro level whether one does things with baseball cards. I presume it's a race to the bottom in financial terms.
13:51 druthb jcamins: yes, on the micro level, one may get a certain pleasure out of the collection—learning minute trivia about players, etc…like with other collections. But on the macro level of the market—not a lot of value there.
13:51 cait memories?
13:51 jcamins Okay, so we're pretty sure baseball cards aren't useful for anything.
13:50 cait jcamins: sell.
13:50 * druthb blinks
13:50 jcamins druthb: well, you can read books. And beanie babies are presumably good if you like stuffed animals, I guess. And you can always act out Downton Abbey with Mr. Giraffe.
13:49 druthb unless the collectible has some inherent value in its materials, (like, say, silver coins) that never seems to happen. Big peak, eternal decline.
13:49 magnuse gah! UpdateBorrowerAttribute, what is your secret?
13:48 magnuse or there is some hope that it will one day become valuable
13:48 druthb If you generalize a *lot* of the collectible market, I think you'll come up with the same null program.
13:47 magnuse well, there's your evidence, then
13:47 jcamins magnuse: no, but I'm trying to confirm that there isn't one, and not coming up with any definitive evidence.
13:47 oleonard jcamins: The same with any collection: You collect them, glory in their increasing value, never sell them, bequeath them to an uncaring recipient
13:46 wahanui magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza.
13:46 druthb magnuse!
13:45 magnuse lol, does there have to be a point?
13:45 jcamins magnuse: yeah, but is that it? What's the point?
13:45 magnuse jcamins: collect them?
13:45 Joubu hi
13:45 magnuse druthb!
13:45 jcamins I have an odd question. Does anyone know what one does with baseball cards?
13:45 magnuse davidnind voluteered to try to send out reminders
13:44 jcamins :)
13:44 jcamins oleonard: that was an action item.
13:44 kivilahtio oleonard: Add this to your calendar http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_5_February_2014
13:44 oleonard We gotta get better about doing email reminders before meetings... Not sure how to make that happen...
13:44 kivilahtio was in another meeting where we were arranging our production server environment
13:43 kivilahtio I missed too
13:43 magnuse you and the rest of the world ;-)
13:43 magnuse oleonard: yup
13:42 oleonard Oh crap did I miss an IRC meeting?
13:38 kivilahtio hi oleonard!
13:18 oleonard Hi #koha
13:14 Herwig thx <fredericd>
12:57 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.16.12.254 pasted "gmcharlt: got this so far, had to fix zebra_config.pl" (211 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/57
12:50 francharb Morning
12:49 fredericd Herwig: No. By design, the 'marcxml' metadataPrefix just send back the raw biblio record from biblioitems.marcxml field.
12:45 tcohen if you need to stick with the ancient KOha you could grab that file from (for example) 3.12.x
12:44 tcohen /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/cleanup_database.pl
12:44 WaylonR hmm.. was never mentioned for koha3.0.0.... guess its a newer idea.
12:43 tcohen default Debian-packages installs set a cronjob for that
12:43 tcohen WaylonR: you need to clean the zebraqueue table from time to time
12:43 WaylonR lots of data entry personell.
12:43 Herwig only it should be in the marcxml one
12:43 WaylonR right. large large db.. lots of zebraqueue entries, 8 million zebraqueue entries.. blimey.
12:42 Herwig this is the result i want
12:42 Herwig https://koha.inbo.be/cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl?verb=GetRecord&identifier=oai:inbo.be:15000&metadataPrefix=marcxml2
12:42 tcohen WaylonR: yes
12:42 WaylonR tcohen, your talking to me?
12:42 Herwig zebraqueue is ?
12:42 tcohen I'm mixing people sorry :-D
12:41 Herwig ehm now you talking chines"e for me :)
12:41 tcohen Herwig: i'd like to know if there's a chance to reproduce the problem you mention with zebraqueue in recent versions
12:40 Herwig it only works if i pick a new name for marcxml apparently
12:40 tcohen so, what r u asking with the remapping thing?
12:40 Herwig ye i used xslt
12:40 tcohen jcamins: around?
12:37 tcohen tell me, how can u halt Koha through the zebraqueue table?
12:37 tcohen Herwig: that remapping can be done through XSLT
12:26 Herwig annyone ;) ?
12:23 Herwig and for example is remapping in koha a wise path ?
12:23 Herwig the question now is is it possible to change the marcxml version
12:22 Herwig https://koha.inbo.be/cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl?verb=GetRecord&identifier=oai:inbo.be:15000&metadataPrefix=marcxml
12:22 Herwig https://koha.inbo.be/cgi-bin/koha/oai.pl?verb=GetRecord&identifier=oai:inbo.be:15000&metadataPrefix=marcxml2
12:22 Herwig i can now also remap marcxml if i use a new extention marcxml instead of marcxml does work
12:21 Herwig i had some progress
12:21 Herwig magnuse are you here ?
12:08 WaylonR ha. heavily modded.. im in the middle of porting to 3.x, but its a long road.
12:07 paxed 3.0.0? my first thought would be to upgrade ASAP.
12:01 WaylonR hello all! okay, it seems its easy (with koha 3.0.0pre2) to create a deadlock in zebraqueue table, eventually exausting all locks and bringing the server to a halt. How do i avoid it?
12:00 tcohen morning #koha
11:48 fridolin going to eat
11:28 magnuse thanks davidnind
11:16 davidnind Thanks magnuse - just fixing the timeanddate.com link
11:12 magnuse hope he got it right: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_5_February_2014
11:08 fridolin hie cait
11:08 davidnind Thanks cait :-[
11:08 cait hi fridolin :)
11:08 huginn fridolin: I suck
11:08 fridolin huginn: you could say in topic that 3.14.1 is released
11:08 cait :)
11:08 davidnind Just past midnight, about normal for me
11:07 cait and you did it nicely from what i see reading back :)
11:07 cait davidnind: isn't it awfully late for you too?
11:05 thd good night Koha
11:05 magnuse davidnind++
11:05 * magnuse wishes thd the best of luck :-)
11:05 * thd is now thoroughly too tired to sleep. However, he must try.
11:04 davidnind Thanks everyone for your patience, still new at running meetings (even after a couple of goes) and IRC...
11:03 huginn Log: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting_8_january_2014.2014-01-08-10.09.log.html
11:03 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting_8_january_2014.2014-01-08-10.09.txt
11:03 huginn Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community.org/2014/general_irc_meeting_8_january_2014.2014-01-08-10.09.html
11:03 huginn Meeting ended Wed Jan 8 11:03:53 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
11:03 davidnind #endmeeting
11:03 cait davidnind++
11:03 thd +1
11:02 davidnind Anything else from anyone, will close the meeting otherwise....
11:02 davidnind #info Next General IRC meeting is 5 February 2014 02:00 UTC
11:01 thd The time must be good for someone somewhere.
11:01 davidnind Hi cait, waves back
11:00 davidnind Looks like the next time in the sequence is 02:00 UTC, and the 5th of February as the date (unless anyone else has another suggestion)
11:00 thd s/Applauds/Applause/
10:59 thd Applauds for all who persevered for a favourable resolution of the NZ trademark issue.
10:59 davidnind #topic Next meeting
10:58 davidnind #info Big thank you to those involved for there work in responding to this - Horowhenua Library Trust and CatalystIT in particular, and all the others (apologies for not knowing exactly who)
10:57 thd If only stopping software patents would be as easy.
10:57 * cait waves
10:55 davidnind http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz/2013/12/14/finally-thats-over-ptfsliblime-trademark-on-koha-not-registered/
10:55 davidnind Chris's post covers most f the media, was a lot of god coverage in NZ media
10:55 thd Hooray for some sense in relation to trademarks.
10:54 davidnind Another item - Koha trademark for New Zealand not registered
10:54 thd s/earlier/earlier relative to UTC/
10:53 thd Seasonal change in time a couple of months ago leaves all hours earlier.
10:52 davidnind May also just be the time of year - December, holidays for some...
10:52 davidnind #action davidnind (or other volunteer) to post a reminder on Twitter an hour or so before meeting
10:52 magnuse +1
10:51 davidnind #action davidnind (or other volunteer) to send reminder to general mailing list a day or so before
10:50 fridolin for me yes
10:50 davidnind General IRC meetings - should a reminder go to the mailing list to encourage more attendance?
10:49 davidnind Does anyone have any general business items?
10:48 davidnind #topic General business
10:48 davidnind There were none as far as I can see from the minutes, so ...
10:48 davidnind No problems schnydszch
10:47 schnydszch Okay, sorry for the bother.
10:47 davidnind #topic Actions from last general IRC meeting
10:46 davidnind Hi schnydsch, we're having our monthly IRC meeting, hopefully this will be finished shortly...
10:46 schnydszch hello koha community! Is there a way that in the advance search only the icon could be shown?
10:45 thd Not quite as early in Argentina but still quite early.
10:45 davidnind Dates have been announced, so people intending to go will know when it is on
10:45 magnuse probably not
10:45 davidnind Not sure that there is anyone to speak to this either
10:44 davidnind #topic Kohacon14
10:44 davidnind The joys of a worldwide community!
10:44 thd The time is especially early in Seattle.
10:43 davidnind Ok, onto the next item then..
10:43 davidnind Anyone able to update on this - don't think Galen is here
10:43 magnuse no gmcharlt to speak to that, i guess
10:42 davidnind #topic Update on 3.16
10:42 davidnind fridolin - for the meeting agenda item
10:42 * ashimema has caught up with the meeting now..
10:42 fridolin davidnind: the update ?
10:41 davidnind Thanks for the update fridolin
10:41 ashimema will be going live with it within the next three months or so
10:41 ashimema We have a few libraries currently being implemented on 3.14
10:40 fridolin I'm very proud to have reache this level in Koha community
10:39 fridolin thanks a lot davidnind magnuse
10:39 magnuse fridolin++
10:39 davidnind #info Congratulations to Fridolin for his first maintenance release for 3.14
10:39 davidnind fridolin ++
10:38 davidnind I think existing libraries would probably wait a little - testing and all that...
10:37 fridolin At biblibre, we have 1 project with 3.14.00
10:37 magnuse not that i know
10:37 fridolin Are there libs using it in production ?
10:37 fridolin magnuse : to say it is stable, I could not say. I
10:36 magnuse ashimema: you are very welcome to join the meeting of course :-)
10:36 paul_p ashimema = no problem, don't worry
10:36 magnuse fridolin: cool
10:35 fridolin magnuse : there will be more patches in 3.14.2, see : http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/3.14.x
10:35 ashimema oops.. sorry, forgot the meeting
10:35 paul_p ashimema = monthly meeting atm, could you wait until it's over to ask your question ?
10:35 fridolin magnuse: oh now my falt, I started patches integration in 3.14 late in december
10:35 magnuse ashimema: you might want to wait until after the meeting :-)
10:34 ashimema random question.. is there anywhere in koha that uses editable datatables?
10:34 fridolin magnuse : At this point, 3.14.1 is very close to master, only a few pathes are not in it
10:34 paul_p magnuse I was surprised by the small number of patches in 3.14.1 So either it's stable, or no one is using/testing/patching it !
10:34 davidnind I'm sure the devel list or IRC are more than willing to help with any issues, I'm sure those who have done it in the past were new to it at some stage..
10:33 magnuse fridolin: would yu say 3.14.1 is stable enough for production use?
10:33 fridolin 3.14.2 is on the way
10:32 fridolin I released 3.14.01 the 23 december
10:31 fridolin I faced some problems and need more experience
10:31 davidnind Thanks paul_p - the more the merrier!
10:31 fridolin It's a new job for me but I like it
10:30 * paul_p just reminded fridolin that the meeting has started davidnind. Not coming by chance :D
10:30 fridolin For those how do not know, I'm RM for 3.14.x
10:30 davidnind He just arrived in time to give us an update! :)
10:29 paul_p davidnind = yep, fridolin ;-)
10:29 fridolin happy new year to all
10:29 fridolin bonjour magnus :)
10:29 davidnind Anyone here able to talk to this?
10:29 davidnind #topic Update on 3.14
10:29 magnuse bonjour fridolin
10:28 magnuse paul_p: yay!
10:28 davidnind Thanks to release maintainers for there dedication over the Christmas period
10:28 fridolin hie all
10:28 paul_p magnuse has won the "yay man" card ;-)
10:28 davidnind Doesn't look like there was a 3.10 maintenance release
10:27 magnuse yay!
10:27 davidnind Maintenance release 3.12.8 was made on 25 December (going by my email) - very dedicated!
10:25 davidnind Maintenance release for 3.8 was made on 3 January
10:23 davidnind #topic Updates on 3.8, 3.10 and 3.12
10:23 davidnind I think I will handle the updates for 3.8 to 3.12 as one item, unless anyone objects
10:22 magnuse yay!
10:21 davidnind #info All Koha users are invited to partipate
10:20 davidnind #info The University of Lyon 3 is organising a day of testing patches for this Friday
10:20 davidnind Thanks Paul
10:19 paul_p joubu will be available to setup a sandbox or help on any problem they have (explanation needed, applying patch manually, ...)
10:18 paul_p all Koha users all around are invited (and some should join)
10:18 paul_p yes, davidnind = the university of Lyon 3 organise a day of testing patches on friday
10:18 davidnind Before I go into the updates on releases are any of the release maintainers here to comment?
10:17 davidnind There was an item on Twitter yesterday about a patch test day planned for France on Friday, but I don't know much more than that
10:16 paul_p #info Paul Poulain, BibLibre, France
10:15 davidnind Does anyone have any announcements?
10:15 davidnind #topic Announcements
10:15 davidnind Hopefully more will join as we go through the agenda.
10:14 magnuse lol
10:14 davidnind Hmm, doesn't look like we have too many people actually around at the moment.. a quick meeting is always a good one though!
10:14 magnuse ping rangi, paul_p - they were here not too long ago...
10:12 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, currently working for Oslo Public Library, Norway
10:11 thd davidmind: bad landlord, which is worse
10:11 davidnind thd: bad weather?
10:11 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City, (re-electrified)
10:10 davidnind #info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand
10:10 davidnind #topic Introductions (please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes)
10:09 thd davidmind: I did not know what else to use to check that my newly rewired electric lines are working.
10:09 davidnind Agenda is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting_8_January_2014
10:09 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'general_irc_meeting_8_january_2014'
10:09 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
10:09 huginn Meeting started Wed Jan 8 10:09:09 2014 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
10:09 davidnind #startmeeting General IRC meeting 8 January 2014
10:08 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
10:08 huginn davidnind: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee'
10:08 wahanui if there is a meeting then Brooke must want me
10:08 davidnind #startmeeting
10:08 davidnind ..and your still on IRC thd? Such dedication for the Koha community
10:07 thd davidmind++
10:07 magnuse davidnind++
10:07 thd davod,omd: If you have had more than 2 hours sleep in the past two days then you may be best qualified.
10:07 davidnind But if there is no one else more experienced I will try my best, again
10:04 davidnind I think I inflicted myself enough on the community at the last meeting......
10:03 davidnind More than 1?
10:03 * magnuse volunteers davidnind as chair ;-)
10:03 * thd hopes his electricity was rewired just in time for the meeting.
10:02 magnuse what is enough people? :-)
10:02 davidnind Yep! Do we have enough people here and a person to chair?
10:01 magnuse yup, there is supposed to be a meeting now, i think?
09:58 Herwig if you have a meeting i can come back later
09:57 Herwig i did marcxml: metadataPrefix: marcxml metadataNamespace: http://www.loc.gov/MARC21/slim xsl_file: /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/fields001003.xsl
09:57 Herwig 001 and 003 are empty in our koha
09:56 magnuse so 001 and 003 are removed, but new ones are not put in?
09:55 Herwig i dont have a scheme line
09:54 Herwig must i put some more ?
09:54 Herwig i copy'ed the xsl_file: /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/fields001003.xsl
09:54 Herwig no correction not an error just no field 001 and 003
09:52 Herwig sec
09:52 magnuse what is the error?
09:51 magnuse but for the marcxml format, no "xsl_file" is specified
09:51 Herwig if i put it under r marcxml i get an error
09:51 magnuse which tells koha to use fields001003.xsl
09:51 Herwig yes
09:51 magnuse Herwig: in your yaml file, for the vs format yu have "xsl_file: /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/fields001003.xsl"
09:49 Herwig careful i'm new at this did not understand the question
09:48 magnuse (a chairperson for the meeting that starts in 12 minutes :-)
09:48 magnuse the marcxml format does not have a "xsl_file" value?
09:47 Herwig a what :) ?
09:47 magnuse do we have a chairperson?
09:47 Herwig so the xslt works
09:47 Herwig my output in vs format is ok now
09:46 Herwig i think my yaml file must be not correct yet
09:46 Herwig i just mailed the code
09:45 magnuse meeting in 15 minutes!
09:42 magnuse Herwig: you managed to remove 001 and 003, but not put in new ones?
09:37 Herwig is there somewhere here who can help with the oai yaml configuration file made some progress since yesterday but still not there yet complete adapting the vs output works but no change in marcxml output at the moment
09:29 magnuse she sure did
09:29 magnuse looks like i have some catching up to do i that area...
09:29 cait have to run :) bbl
09:29 cait so did she?
09:28 magnuse someone called Katrin added YES_NO "for 3.14" here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commit;h=bbe64974b02d78fc916f76408a995ac1bf7f6228 ;-)
09:28 cait sorry, thought it was bool
09:28 cait oups
09:27 magnuse but not norwegian...
09:27 magnuse german also has the YES_NO one as mandatory
09:25 magnuse hm, can't see it in gitweb? but there is http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=installer/data/mysql/en/mandatory/auth_values.sql which has a YES_NO category
09:25 cait it#s been there for a while
09:25 cait like 3.10 or so
09:23 magnuse cait: do you know when it was added?
09:23 magnuse it's missing from my (fresh) installation
09:22 cait i think it's likely to miss from the norwegian one too
09:22 cait but it was missing from the german web installer
09:22 cait BOOL
09:22 magnuse hm, isn't there an authorized value category for yes/no? i was sure i had seen that...
09:20 paul_p (or good evening of good afternoon of good night ;-) )
09:20 cait hi paul_p
09:20 paul_p good morning magnuse & cait & others
09:20 magnuse :-)
09:19 cait i can try, but i think not so likely
09:19 magnuse kia ora paul_p
09:19 magnuse cait: make your other meeting a short one :-)
09:18 cait but i have a meeting in 15... so probably going to miss it
09:18 cait hm irc meeting in 45 mins
09:08 paxed oh ffs.
08:58 paxed span title would be the easiest and cheapest.
08:57 cait a tooltip would not be hard to do i think
08:53 paxed but just cryptic "FU" is not user friendly.
08:53 paxed or could use a tooltip.
08:52 cait you could change the display to show a description, but it will take up more space
08:51 cait well those are codes.
08:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11494 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Pay patron fines shows cryptic, untranslatable, account types
08:49 paxed cait: ok, looked but didn't find that, i'll take another look. my main beef with those i reported in bug 11494
08:28 cait paxed: check the online help/manual - i remember translating explanations to those
08:26 magnuse rangi: ah, at least they are coming along :-)
08:25 cait #follow ups for the web installer
08:25 cait gmcharlt++
08:24 * cait waves again
08:20 rangi magnuse: coming along slowly
08:19 gaetan_B hello
08:09 sophie_m hi #koha
08:08 cait hi #koha
08:05 alex_a bonjour
07:57 magnuse so rangi: how are all your cool projects coming along?
07:56 reiveune salut magnuse
07:56 magnuse bonjour reiveune, paxed
07:48 paxed what do the account types 'F', 'FU', 'O', etc mean?
07:37 reiveune hello
07:21 rangi hey magnuse and cait
07:18 cait hi rangi
07:16 magnuse kia ora rangi
07:14 huginn rangi: Quote #171: "rangi: I find proprietary software unethical. So even if it made me coffee and polished my shoes everyday, it would still suck" (added by wizzyrea at 08:10 PM, December 08, 2011)
07:14 rangi @quote get 171
07:13 huginn rangi: 3 found: #115: "chris: friends don't let friends use...", #171: "rangi: I find proprietary software unethical....", and #91: "<chris> Free as in kittens is a silly phrase..."
07:13 rangi @quote search proprietary
07:02 magnuse wb cait
06:59 magnuse meeting in 3 hours?
06:56 cait yay :)
06:54 * magnuse created his first mock object yesterday and is sooo proud
06:51 * magnuse waves
06:14 dcook Well, walk...then run!
06:14 dcook All right. Time to run to the gym!
05:23 cait :)
05:23 * dcook waves to cait
05:10 dcook Well, linked my work address with my personal account..
05:10 dcook Yay, updated my Github..
04:46 dcook I should test that one on master as well..
04:46 dcook Thanks :)
04:45 Oak dcook++
04:45 Oak :)
04:43 dcook But pick up NM
04:43 dcook None of which pick up NMH
04:43 dcook ^NM$, ^NM<, >NM<, >NM$
04:42 dcook So there should be 4 scenarios?
04:41 dcook Regexp...you make me feel like a wizard and an idiot...
04:41 * dcook tries a few more times...
04:41 dcook Oh snap. I think it works.
04:40 dcook hehe, let's hope so
04:40 Oak while trying you will get a better idea. :)
04:40 dcook Yeah, I'm not 100% but maybe..
04:39 Oak hmm, sounds worth trying
04:39 dcook But if I can test for an angle bracket OR the start/end of the string...
04:39 dcook That works great except for starting and ending values
04:39 dcook So we can test for angle brackets on either side of the value
04:39 dcook Well, we separate the values using <br>
04:39 dcook This is for the holds to pull report
04:38 Oak let's hear it
04:38 Oak are you filtering in database or in Excel?
04:38 dcook Oh, I think I might have an idea..
04:38 Oak hello dcook
04:38 dcook hey Oak
04:37 * Oak waves
04:37 Oak yup
04:37 dcook "NM" will bring up results for "NMH" :/
04:37 dcook Trying to filter multiple values in the DataTables is not fun..
04:29 dcook Bleargh..
03:55 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
03:55 mtompset Blip! i think that's my signal to leave.
03:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11260: (follow-up) repair German sample_z3950_servers.sql
03:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11260 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Update German web installer
03:24 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11260: (follow-up) remove inadvertant change to English sample_z3950_servers.sql
03:24 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11260: Follow up - normalizing frequencies in English sample file a bit
03:24 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11260: Update German web installer - frequencies and numberpatterns
03:24 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11260: Update German web installer for 3.14
03:24 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1589: SUCCESS in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1589/
02:14 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11260: (follow-up) repair German sample_z3950_servers.sql
02:14 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11260: (follow-up) remove inadvertant change to English sample_z3950_servers.sql
02:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11260 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Update German web installer
02:14 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11260: Follow up - normalizing frequencies in English sample file a bit
02:14 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11260: Update German web installer - frequencies and numberpatterns
02:14 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 11260: Update German web installer for 3.14
02:14 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #298: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/298/
01:58 dcook :D
01:58 wahanui http://zork.net/~nick/pix/inconceivable.jpg
01:58 dcook Inconceivable...
01:58 dcook Although it gets html warnings on other pages. Maybe it "does" support HTML5...
01:57 dcook (master) staff client
01:57 dcook Actually, the staff client looks quite nice in IE 11
01:56 gmcharlt hmm
01:56 dcook It's my 3.8 that it doesn't like
01:56 dcook Master looks fine in IE 11
01:55 dcook gmcharlt: Somewhat false alarm
01:51 dcook I've started to a bit more
01:51 eythian we tell our clients to use firefox
01:50 eythian heh
01:50 dcook It just seems simpler
01:50 dcook I've actually created a new category "Bugs - Internet Explorer" on our internal issue tracker
01:50 * dcook likes eythian's idea
01:50 dcook Getting some HTML warnings, so maybe IE 11 does weird things..
01:50 eythian we could just declare IE11 deprecated.
01:50 dcook The datatable header appears though. I'm starting to think it might not be related to DataTables..
01:49 dcook The saved sql reports won't print out on IE 11 :/
01:49 wizzyrea duly noted that the serial search won't work if you are using the admin user.
01:46 * dcook is trying to confirm it beyond one example
01:46 gmcharlt *sigh*
01:45 dcook Interesting...it seems that DataTables break in IE 11...
01:25 jenkins_koha Starting build #1589 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #298 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:18 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11260: (follow-up) repair German sample_z3950_servers.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c81c7b6f3edc109d47e7b83bcd51a85ae469aad> / Bug 11260: (follow-up) remove inadvertant change to English sample_z3950_servers.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a39b728364efaae688d508c7b253a0ab9c9c8d2e> / Bug 11260: Follow up - normalizing frequencies in English samp
01:07 edveal Just checking to see if Dani was in. I will try back later.
00:13 gmcharlt np
00:13 pianohacker sorry gmcharlt
00:13 pianohacker jesus, I'm out of it today
00:13 pianohacker Oh derp, that was my own fault
00:13 pianohacker ah, okay. Just wasn't sure if that was important
00:13 pianohacker Of the license statement given in the guidelines
00:12 mtompset pianohacker: I reformated the license on the wiki to 65 wide.
00:12 gmcharlt what last line is not wrapped?
00:11 pianohacker gmcharlt: hrm. The last line isn't wrapped. Call me crazy, but is that right?
00:10 mtompset Useful and informative read, yes.
00:10 dcook Actually quite a good read
00:10 * dcook read them once last year
00:10 wahanui well, licence is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Licence
00:10 dcook licence?
00:10 mtompset pianohacker: Only non-obvious, because no one reads the coding guidelines. ;)
00:10 dcook licence is http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Licence
00:10 dcook licence?
00:09 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Coding_Guidelines#Licence
00:09 dcook gmcharlt++
00:09 dcook Huh..
00:09 pianohacker jeez, such a nonobvious place, how could I have found it /s
00:08 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "new license?" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/56
00:08 gmcharlt it's on the coding guidelines page on the wiki
00:08 pianohacker eythian, rangi or gmcharlt?
00:08 dcook But...
00:08 dcook Mmm, good question. I always do bad on that one too.
00:07 pianohacker okay, I seem to derp license headers constantly, so what's a good example within the Koha project
00:02 rambutan I need to take off and go foraging too...
00:00 * dcook thinks oleonard is wise, lol
00:00 * oleonard quits computering
00:00 dcook pianohacker: I haven't been to Maccas in years, but if you can think of it, they can Mc it
00:00 rambutan I be hungry.