Time Nick Message 23:59 pianohacker wow... 23:59 dcook I suppose the west is actually the place known for its gun love.. 23:59 mtompset And I've been told the Ocean views are quite lovely. 23:59 mtompset Oh, they are polite and friendly like the rest of us Canadians. :) 23:59 mtompset http://www.mcdonalds.ca/ca/en/menu/full_menu/sandwiches/mclobster.html 23:58 * dcook generally likes maritimers 23:58 rambutan where? 23:58 mtompset Actually... There are McLobsters! 23:58 dcook hehe 23:58 * pianohacker hopes *McLobsters* are a facetious comment... 23:57 mtompset Easterner?! BAH! I'm Eastern/Central. Easterners are those Maritime folk that snort when they laugh and have McLobsters. ;) 23:57 dcook Gun and knife related actually. 23:57 dcook I was actually telling an anecdote last night about the gun-related schenanigans of an Ontario guy I knew and his friends 23:56 dcook Can't tell with the internet (and you Easterners :P) 23:56 mtompset dcook: I was being a little sarcastic, yes. :) 23:56 mtompset oleonard++ # Nice! 23:54 dcook oleonard++ 23:53 rambutan I just think the people that saw this guy didn't give a hoot, or at most were mildly bemused. 23:53 * dcook actually doesn't have anything against guns per se. He enjoys target practice as much, if not more, than the next person, but they don't have a place in the public. 23:53 oleonard I once stopped a guy walking into the library who was wearing a sidearm. He turned out to be a cop, but he sure was grumpy about showing me his badge. 23:53 dcook Are you going to act weird around a guy with a sidearm? 23:53 dcook Plus, I think most people rather pretend to ignore something than to make a fuss. 23:52 dcook Folks can be desensitized to pretty much anything. 23:52 rambutan but then on Black Friday, sure as shinola, there was one guy standing in line for some 7" tablets at Walmart with a sidearm. Nobody seemed to notice or care. 23:52 dcook I think she misses Canada a bit 23:51 dcook Lots of people bringing their guns into shops, like Walmart, and just going about their business gun in hand 23:51 dcook A friend of mine mentioned recently that there was a "gun in" in Austin 23:51 rambutan You know, Missouri has open-carry, but you never see anybody carrying at Walmart or whereever..... 23:51 * dcook hopes that's a facetious comment. 23:50 mtompset The librarians need to be armed. The government is being tyrannical and telling them to let people bring their firearms in. :) 23:49 dcook Which just boosts the proliferation of weapons amongst citizens 23:49 rambutan I wish I could tell a short funny story about our firearms policy, but don't want to lay it out here online... 23:48 mtompset It would if the librarians trained to be expert marksmen... wild west rules. ;) 23:48 dcook In fact, the pro gun people would probably say that the librarians should have guns. 23:48 dcook mtompset: That wouldn't really solve anything anyway 23:48 pianohacker jeebus. 73 commits on the cataloging project, and it's still not done... 23:48 mtompset But librarians are not allowed guns, so that is kind of stupid. 23:48 dcook And I thought that patrons were already scared to come back to the library with overdues.. 23:47 rambutan oh, yea, that works "collection management" 23:47 mtompset duck problem? Sounds like a lead into the whole Duck Dynasty debate. :P 23:47 oleonard Overdues prevention and return 23:46 eythian Just claim a duck problem. 23:46 rambutan well, that's an idea. I could use a new shotgun, wonder if LSTA would support that? Training? Security? 23:45 dcook I read that as "gun request" 23:45 rambutan this is degenerating, I need to go back to wroking on my grant request. :) 23:44 dcook I wondered what happened to Dennis Rodman... 23:44 rambutan Kim Jong Un for president, and Dennis Rodman for vice! 23:43 dcook Well, it's still minority rule...but majority in name. 23:43 dcook It was minority rule for quite a long time 23:43 dcook Actually, Canada only recently got majority rule federally 23:43 dcook benign dictatorship! 23:43 dcook I think that article is a microcosm of quite a bit of the debate.. 23:42 rambutan damn majority rule and elected officials! 23:42 dcook Exactly 23:40 oleonard Americans and their goddamn guns :( 23:40 rambutan mtj: yea, same recently in Michigan too, I think. In essence, state laws regarding such, where they exist, trump local policy. 23:37 mtj dcook, rambutan -> http://kuow.org/post/why-seattle-public-library-surrendered-its-gun-ban 23:37 dcook I think he might be in bywater's channel or around for PM at least? 23:36 dcook hehe 23:36 oleonard He's just not frittering his day away in here then ;) 23:36 * dcook thinks larryb is...washington state? 23:36 rambutan mtj: ok, I'm curious. Do you have a link to the seattle library news story? 23:34 * oleonard can't remember his time zone 23:33 oleonard Yeah I just popped in hoping to catch larryb 23:33 dcook How goes it? Isn't it supper time yet? 23:32 oleonard Hi dcook 23:32 dcook hey ya oleonard! 23:32 dcook mtj: link? 23:31 mtj woah, that seattle library news story is quite surreal :/ 23:27 pianohacker ah, right. Was thinking of something else. I'll just do that then. 23:26 eythian assuming you started from master, anyway 23:26 eythian not even that, if you're on the branch just git rebase -i origin/master will do it 23:26 eythian but things that suit being logically separate should remain separate 23:26 pianohacker eythian: just a simple rebase --onto? 23:26 eythian rebase it on top of master. If you use -i you can squish patches that should go together. 23:25 * dcook thinks eythian or rangi would be good people to ask 23:25 pianohacker okay, devel advice. I have a really long running branch, what's the best way to rebase/merge in master and make it easy to submit later? 23:18 mtompset What category does the svc stuff fall under? I'd like to submit the header patch. 23:16 mtompset Oh, and the header parameter is new from me. :) 23:15 mtompset Kind of works in a very broken way. 23:15 mtompset I dumped that in OpacNavRight. 23:14 mtompset [off] http://paste.koha-community.org/55 23:13 eythian yeah 23:13 mtompset [off] Is this how you do off? 23:10 mtj yep, i feel your pain 23:09 mtompset easier said than done. 23:07 mtj the jquery technique should be still that same, just insert some popup code 23:02 dcook But good luck :) 23:02 dcook Nope. I almost never look at the bootstrap OPAC 23:00 mtompset I want that, except with table data and a close button. 23:00 mtompset dcook: You know how the bootstrap log in for OPAC floats nicely and is a div popup? 22:59 * dcook shrugs 22:59 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 18.0°C (9:30 AM EST on January 08, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Rising). 22:59 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 22:59 dcook But... 22:59 * dcook has no idea what mtompset is talking about 22:56 mtj http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1501181/jquery-append-and-remove-element 22:56 mtompset Not a div in-line with everything. 22:56 mtompset I have a table now... but I want a popup. 22:55 mtompset There's a function replaceWith. :) 22:55 mtj mtompset ^^ 22:55 mtj from memory, ive removed an element, then append/prepend a new new - with jq 22:54 eythian not too bad. 22:54 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on January 08, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). 22:54 wahanui it has been said that mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. 22:54 mtj heya mtompset 22:54 eythian @wunder nzwn 22:53 mtompset Still doesn't really solve the popup desire, but closer now. 22:53 mtompset Oops... # vs . 22:51 mtompset That's the part I'm having problems with... I can toggle visibility on, and the old value shows, but it doesn't overwrite the old values with the new values. 22:50 jatara why is the table not appearing at all? 22:49 mtompset I've got a nice <table>...</table> built, and I just need to show it. 22:48 mtompset Any suggestions on how to make a div containing a table magically appear? overwriting the data with a jquery result? 22:48 * mtompset grumbles. 22:47 huginn jatara: The current temperature in Brookview, Plano, Texas is 7.1°C (4:45 PM CST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 17%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Falling). 22:47 jatara @wunder 75074 22:46 maximep baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah 22:46 huginn maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -15.0°C (5:33 PM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Snow Showers. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Windchill: -27.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Rising). 22:46 maximep @wunder cyqb 22:45 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -18.9°C (5:45 PM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -24.0°C. Windchill: -24.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). 22:45 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5 22:19 jcamins So a walk across town shouldn't be too bad. 22:19 jcamins North-south, and there isn't much of it. 22:18 jcamins And which direction is the wind going? 22:18 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Murray Hill, New York, New York is -12.1°C (5:18 PM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -21.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... 22:18 jcamins @wunder 10016 22:17 gmcharlt rangi: all of a piece, alas 22:16 rangi gmcharlt: ummm http://kuow.org/post/why-seattle-public-library-surrendered-its-gun-ban 22:15 rangi not too bad, watching wreck it ralph with kahu 22:07 wizzyrea how's laurel? :) 22:07 wizzyrea heya 21:55 rangi hi all 21:17 eythian Oh, not inaccurate so much as underspecified, I misread. 21:16 * eythian twitches at the documentation being inaccurate 21:14 wizzyrea http://git.hiruthie.net/?p=koha_migration_tools.git;a=blob;f=koha_fixes/move_items_to_bib.pl;h=3d2eff4b3fb3280c86dcce433fb9360762d20bee;hb=HEAD this one maybe? 21:04 wizzyrea it's not a huge collection - that might be alright 21:02 druthb http://git.hiruthie.net 21:02 druthb I think I wrote one that would shift large numbers of items off one bib, and onto another, and tidy up holds, too. You had to reindex those recs after, but at the point I was using it, you had blank indexes anyway, so no itch. 21:01 druthb it would be, yes. Might look in the "Generic" directory somewhere. 21:00 wizzyrea that was ages ago now that I used that but really handy. 21:00 wizzyrea oh I forgot - druthb++ for that record fixing script thinger in there. 21:00 wizzyrea hm that'd be in the migration toolkit eh 20:58 druthb The only times I've needed large-scale item movements has been during migrations—some of the code I used for that might be usable against a running database, but it'd be something best done very, very carefully 20:51 wizzyrea :( 20:51 wizzyrea yeah : 20:50 oleonard Man, serials are the worst. 20:50 oleonard Yikes 20:49 wizzyrea I have a situation where a library has 800 serial items they'd like to merge with a duplicate record that has an additional 500 items. 20:44 oleonard No I don't think there is such a thing. I've never seen a situation where it was needed, myself. 20:43 wizzyrea I thought you could only do it one at a time 20:43 wizzyrea did I miss it? 20:43 wizzyrea is there such a thing? 20:40 oleonard batch item move wizzyrea? 20:37 wahanui privet, eythian 20:37 eythian hi 20:34 wizzyrea in batch. 20:34 wizzyrea it would be wicked cool if batch item edit also let you change the biblionumber the items were attached to. 20:16 mtompset Because https://.../cgi-bin/koha/svc/report?id=15 generates just JSON output. 20:15 mtompset ^link^like^ 20:15 mtompset kind of link the login in screen popup. 20:15 mtompset format the output nicely to a popup. 20:14 mtompset have it run a report. 20:14 mtompset Put a link on opacnavright. 20:14 oleonard What's the context? 20:14 oleonard mtompset: I haven't done enough with it that I don't still have to go to the documentation every time 20:13 mtompset oleonard: Any pointers? I just want a link that pops up a nice table with the option to close. 20:13 jcamins tcohen: hehe. 20:13 mtompset Yes, yes it was, tcohen! 20:12 tcohen jcamins: http://9gag.com/gag/aXbMYyv 20:11 oleonard Hard stuff is hard. 20:07 * mtompset grumbles about having to figure out modal bootstrap forms. 20:07 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 19:49 * cait waves 19:49 barton That would be Perl 3. 19:49 gmcharlt what would be truly scary is /not/ getting a syntax error 19:48 barton ... or just get a syntax error. 19:47 barton Watch it with the array of referenes to hashes of subroutines, there, you'll end up doing more than crossing something off the list.... 19:46 oleonard Yeah, @$%& you, keyboard shortcuts! 19:45 barton oleonard: read that as "curses it off his list". 19:40 oleonard You know, the list I'm making so much progress on :P 19:32 * oleonard crosses it off his list 19:32 oleonard Oh good, I wasn't sure what the status of that was 19:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11035 normal, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Pushed to Stable , Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js 19:26 cait bug 11035 19:26 cait hm but not sure if it needs another update then 19:24 cait i qa'd something shortcut related :) 19:24 cait i think we had a patch about that 19:23 oleonard Yes, keyboard shortcuts 19:23 cait was that shortcuts? 19:23 cait hm but not sure 19:23 cait oleonard: hm i think the hotkeys one got updates 19:23 oleonard qTip, hotkeys, ratings, jqtransform_select, and jstree according to my notes 19:23 wizzyrea aha gotya thanks 19:22 oleonard wizzyrea: The work to upgrade jquery still depends on updating some plugins. I think tablesorter.js is all but removed, but there are others 19:21 wizzyrea oleonard: also, do you have work started on updating to the new version of jquery? 19:21 wizzyrea oleonard: i hope you are staying warm over there. 19:12 jcamins Woohoo! It's warmer in New York. Except for windchill. 19:12 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is -12.4°C (2:07 PM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -23.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... 19:12 jcamins @wunder 11375 19:11 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -12.9°C (2:10 PM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising). Wind chill warning in effect until 3 PM EST this afternoon... 19:11 oleonard @wunder 45701 18:04 Joubu bye! 18:04 marjorie_ccsr oleonard: sorry, yes i click remove and nothing happens 18:04 tcohen bbl #koha, cya 18:00 vfernandes hummm I understand... thanks cait 17:57 cait you could do that... but then you woul dhave to receive them in serials and in acq 17:56 cait else you have to order every issue 17:56 cait so an annual amount 17:56 cait normally you would substract a value for a subscription 17:51 vfernandes if it isn't can a value be subtract for every reception of periodicals? 17:50 vfernandes but without changing the allocated value 17:49 vfernandes kinda, substract a value 17:48 cait deduct - reduce the amount allocated? 17:48 cait you could also create a child fund... but not sure what you want to to 17:48 cait not without an order or reducing the fund 17:47 vfernandes ? 17:47 vfernandes one simples question: it's possible to deduct some money to a fund? for example, a fund with 1000€ allocated, it's possible to add a manual deduct of 100€ 17:46 vfernandes hi :) 17:43 cait hi tcohen 17:43 tcohen hi cait :-D 17:28 * cait waves 17:14 oleonard marjorie_ccsr: I see that problem in master 17:11 oleonard marjorie_ccsr: You click the "remove" link and nothing happens? 17:11 gaetan_B bye ! 16:52 marjorie_ccsr Hi, i am testing course reserves on 3.12.7. On editing a course, i can not remove instructors. Is this bug is already on BZ? i found nothing. 16:23 reiveune bye 16:11 tcohen (pazGetRecords) 16:11 tcohen is unrelated to my problem 16:11 tcohen found it 16:11 jcamins Oh, no idea. 16:10 tcohen i mean, where is that handled? 16:10 jcamins I think pazpar2 gives you MARCXML, but I'm not sure. 16:09 tcohen yes, but what output should I expect? 16:09 jcamins Doesn't the federated search use pazpar2? 16:08 tcohen how to deal with the serialization format issues? 16:08 tcohen jcamins: federated search inside Koha 15:42 jcamins I believe that is true. 15:42 tcohen so is not relevant 15:42 jcamins biblionumber is now in 001, I think. 15:41 jcamins tcohen: that's a legacy thing. 15:41 jcamins Though UNIMARC libraries mostly use authorities with GRS-1. 15:41 tcohen (in the frameworks) 15:41 tcohen but there's no mapping to 090$9 15:40 tcohen record.abs contains "melm 090$9 Local-number,Local-number:n" 15:40 jcamins I think. 15:40 jcamins tcohen: they are sane, yeah. 15:40 tcohen jcamins: that means no, right? 15:40 jcamins Eh, whatever. 15:40 jcamins more marc? 15:39 jcamins how about more marc 15:39 jcamins let's have more marc! 15:39 jcamins let's have more marc 15:39 tcohen are UNIMARC zebra configuration files in the packages sane? 15:14 cait sorry for that 15:13 gmcharlt np, I was just wondering why a random string change was present along with the rest of the patch :) 15:12 cait thx for checking :) 15:12 cait np 15:12 gmcharlt cait: thanks for confirming re the translation 15:10 cait we won't disagree with you. 15:09 jcamins Just throwing that out there. 15:09 wahanui ...but quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is <reply>... 15:09 huginn wahanui: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) 15:09 wahanui @quote get 123 15:09 jcamins fines? 14:56 kivilahtio thanks for today #koha. Take care! 14:49 jcamins kivilahtio: not too bad. I am indeed. :) 14:49 kivilahtio jcamins: are you surviving? 14:49 cait they got ours too 14:49 kivilahtio jcamins: but how is it there? 14:49 kivilahtio I want to ski :) 14:48 kivilahtio I am pretty jealous about that 14:48 kivilahtio I think New York got our winter 14:48 jcamins And the heat is more like in Russia, so it's not unpleasant like in my apartment where the radiators make it dreadful. 14:47 kivilahtio incidentally there is practically no winter here in Finland, even though we are pretty used to having -20'C this time of year 14:47 jcamins Actually, today is a great day to be at this client's apartment. The building is kept nice and cozy. 14:47 tcohen the news show a really cold season! 14:47 kivilahtio I heard a worker in the Finnish embassy just went skiing in the morning :) 14:47 jcamins tcohen: yes, just really cold! 14:47 cait tcohen: he speaks russian.. so i guess he will be 14:47 koha-ba tcohen: Im sorry, m y internet dropped 14:46 kivilahtio cait: ok, thank you! 14:46 tcohen are u ok jcamins? 14:46 cait kivilahtio: yes. 14:46 jcamins It's like Moscow out there. 14:46 kivilahtio cait: Hmm, why do you hide it with jQuery and not from the template toolkit file? Ease of maintenance? 14:46 huginn jcamins: The current temperature in Glendale, Glendale, New York is -14.4°C (9:36 AM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: -25.0°C. Windchill: -22.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 6 PM EST this evening... 14:46 jcamins @wunder 11375 14:45 cait kivilahtio: you can still hide it then with jquery 14:43 kivilahtio cait: ok, I am certain I am going to hear about that sooner or later :) 14:43 cait I think i have said soemthing in training about the use of the column (checkout fee, not fine) and it was ok 14:43 cait kivilahtio: we don't hide it so far, libraries haven't requested it 14:39 * magnuse_ wanders off 14:30 kivilahtio found it 14:30 huginn 04Bug 9481: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , charge not showing fines 14:30 kivilahtio http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9481 14:29 kivilahtio should I just hide the column? Definetely the detailed patron view needs some work regarding this matter. IS there any way I could help with that? 14:27 kivilahtio How do you deal with the Charge-colum if you don't charge patrons for borrowing? 14:27 kivilahtio is there any way to get the fine for that item visible there instead of the empty Charge-column? 14:26 kivilahtio so this charge column is pretty useless 14:26 kivilahtio We don't charge our patrons for borrowing 14:26 kivilahtio when looking at the members/moremember.pl's listing of checkouts, I see a "Charge"-column. This is the charge for checking an item out? under the Charge-column there is a summary "Totals:" 0.90, meaning htat the patron has 0.90€ of fines. 14:22 talljoy yup. thanks! 14:22 talljoy something is different..... 14:22 kivilahtio talljoy: sounds like its time for a reinstall of git bz 14:22 talljoy i'm looking at that and i'm going to have sys admin look at this. 14:22 magnuse_ meeting in 19 hours 37 minutes, right? 14:22 kivilahtio talljoy: follow the link I posted 14:22 magnuse_ something not right with the way t is installed, then 14:22 talljoy did you mean am gc mv rm 14:21 wahanui i already had it that way, talljoy. 14:21 talljoy git: 'bz' is not a git command. 14:21 kivilahtio gg! 14:21 talljoy as of a month ago, i was testing and even submitted a patch 14:21 magnuse_ what if you just do "git bz"? 14:21 talljoy oh yes. 14:21 kivilahtio talljoy: but you used to be able to run that command succesfully? 14:21 talljoy i will have to get with one of my devs to help sort out what i've done 14:20 kivilahtio talljoy: me too, I am not very good with this 14:20 talljoy i am clearly git-challenged. i get it into states that resemble spaghetti 14:20 kivilahtio talljoy: are you sure your git bz is properly configured? 14:19 kivilahtio talljoy: Odd? This works for me http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Git_bz_configuration 14:16 talljoy ok i'm trying to retest a patch on my test server and it tells me that git bz apply <bug#> is not a valid git command. where can i look to see what's changed in how i apply a patch? 14:01 * oleonard crosses his fingers 14:01 oleonard Oh wait, power in half the building? 14:00 oleonard Crap. 14:00 oleonard Whoops. There goes the power :( 14:00 druthb http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/435-the-day-after-tomorrow 13:59 talljoy frickin polar vortex 13:59 huginn talljoy: The current temperature in Cedar Creek Townhomes, Benbrook, Texas is -4.7°C (7:51 AM CST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.51 in 1033 hPa (Rising). 13:59 talljoy @wunder 76109 13:59 talljoy these temps are not natural for TExas 13:55 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is -2.2°C (7:55 AM CST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Rising). Hard freeze warning in effect until 9 am CST this morning... 13:55 druthb @wunder 77098 13:55 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Bouldin-South Austin, Austin, Texas is -5.9°C (7:55 AM CST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.65 in 1038 hPa (Steady). 13:55 nengard @wunder 78741 13:55 nengard this is true 13:54 druthb at least he's not in snow up to his eyeballs, nengard. Count yer blessings. 13:53 nengard :) 13:53 nengard and mommy does not approve 13:53 nengard oleonard it's the kind of weather where my dog wants to go out all the time and play 13:49 talljoy o/ 13:49 druthb o/ 13:48 oleonard They closed school today because of the cold. If only my kids knew how to test patches... 13:47 cait i have heard sign offs are great for warming up :) 13:47 oleonard barton: It's the kind of weather where you start to worry the dog is planning an impromptu inside bathroom. 13:47 barton morning, cait. 13:47 cait hi barton 13:46 barton right there with you on the long walks, oleonard. 13:44 oleonard I imagine everyone in the southern US states are freaking out right now. 13:43 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.3°C (2:40 PM CET on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 13:43 cait @wunder Konstanz 13:43 cait very reasonable. 13:42 oleonard I'm not going on any leisurely morning walks today 13:42 cait hope you are not frozen yet? 13:42 cait hi oleonard 13:20 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -20.6°C (7:30 AM EST on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -24.0°C. Windchill: -26.0°C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030 hPa (Rising). Wind chill warning in effect until 3 PM EST this afternoon... 13:20 oleonard @wunder 45701 12:58 francharb Good morning 12:57 koha-ba koha-list command gives me the name koha 12:55 tcohen issue the command sudo koha-list 12:54 koha-ba and yes it was with> apt-get install koha-common 12:54 koha-ba Ive installed it according to this manual: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian 12:53 tcohen apt-get install koha-common ? 12:53 tcohen how did you install Koha on the first place? 12:53 tcohen that's it 12:53 koha-ba tcohen: I dont think I did that. Dont remember doing it 12:51 koha-ba Sure, I can. But I think the problem is in "Map To" Field im not really sure, what to put in there when creating Marc record 12:51 tcohen koha-ba: did you happen to have rebuilt your zebra indexes? 12:50 Herwig how big is it i'm stuck myself at the moment so send it and i give it a try ... can you put your marc file somewhere i can download it to test it 12:48 Herwig and then Stage MARC records for import (i probably prepared item types first) 12:48 koha-ba it took quite long to create it, as there are 14000 lines in excel file 12:48 koha-ba yes, there are data in the file 12:46 Herwig afther that i edited some fields with some perl script to make it cleaner 12:45 Herwig i did this some months ago i did use http://marcedit.reeset.net/ 12:43 Herwig did the marc record contain data if you look at it in a text editor ? 12:41 koha-ba Thank you. I have tried to create Marc records, and sucessfully created it, but after importing nothing shows in koha. Im willing to pay someone to remotely help me with it. 12:36 tcohen what have you tried yet? 12:36 tcohen koha-ba: that's not a trivial task, as you need to create MARC records from that 12:35 tcohen morning #koha 12:30 koha-ba Hi guys, would anyone please be so kind and help me with importing excel data to KOHA? I tried it a few times, but with no luck.. 12:20 Herwig i try to grab magnuse if he is online 12:20 Herwig first time ever i run a script :O) myself 12:20 jcamins I don't know, sorry. 12:19 Herwig i was tinking putting it in /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt and put that adres in the file dont know if that works 12:18 Herwig it should run out of the config file from oai 12:17 jcamins How are you running the XSLT file? 12:17 Herwig simpler question can i put axslt file annywhere to run it :) annyone ? 12:17 jcamins *ask 12:17 jcamins You might as magnuse, as the URL you PMed me is for a file he wrote. 12:16 jcamins I don't know anything about it, sorry. 12:16 Herwig can you help with oai pmh configuration ? 12:16 jcamins No problem. 12:15 Herwig mistake 12:15 Herwig ah no you are correct it was not you sorry 12:15 jcamins I suspect you asked where a file is, and I gave you the correct path because I knew it off the top of my head. If I did that. 12:15 jcamins Really. 12:15 jcamins I can't help you with whatever file that is, because I have never used it. 12:14 Herwig sorr y wrong url 12:14 Herwig no 2 weeks ago you gave me /usr/local/koha/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/xslt/ 12:14 jcamins I suspect you want someone else whose nick starts with j. 12:12 jcamins Herwig: I am not really here, and I haven't the faintest idea what you're asking about. 11:57 Oak time to go home. 11:21 * cait points at Joubu 11:21 cait ah sorry, not me :) 11:01 ashimema cait.. you in Liverpool? 10:54 cait hi Joubu from Liverpool :) 10:44 Joubu hi #koha 10:42 Herwig ok ill be back later maybe i have more luck 10:41 Herwig its a xslt script 10:39 Herwig never did this before 10:38 Herwig you gave me a script 2 weeks ago to change fields in OAI-PMH now ive made some changes (not sure its correct) ... but i dont have a clue how to get it running i probably have to change the url in the script also ... or someone else 10:37 magnuse too early for him i think 10:36 Herwig Jcamins are you there 10:36 Herwig Hello 09:49 ashimema :) 09:49 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady). 09:49 magnuse @wunder boo 09:49 magnuse hiya ashimema 09:43 cait morning ashimema 09:43 ashimema morning koha 08:54 cait everyone is back from the holidays :) 08:54 cait sorry, running around a lot today 08:51 fiza helo 08:43 magnuse cait: ah, perhaps you meant AutoEmailPrimaryAddress? that looks like it might play a role. thanks! 08:23 nlegrand hey #koha happy new year gaetan_B 08:02 gaetan_B and happy new year :) 08:02 gaetan_B good morning #koha 07:58 magnuse valid email syspref? 07:54 cait and check that you have not set the no email parameter in the overdues cronjob 07:53 cait and if they have email 07:53 cait syspref 07:53 cait check the valid email 07:52 magnuse weirdness: one of my libraries get their overdue reminders gathered up in an atachment that is emailed to the library, instead of sending them to the individual patrons. is there some syspref that does that? 07:51 alex_a bonjour 07:38 magnuse bonjour! 07:36 wahanui what's up, reiveune 07:36 reiveune hello 07:28 Oak :) 07:12 magnuse \o/ 07:12 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 07:12 magnuse confetti! 07:12 wahanui confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 07:12 magnuse confetti! 07:12 wahanui hmmm... success is a good thing jenkins 07:12 magnuse success! 07:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10863 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add 2 circulation permissions: force_checkout and lift_restriction 07:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: (follow-up) give limited circ operator way to proceed 07:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: (follow-up) set correct description for manage_restrictions permission during upgrade 07:07 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: DBRev 3.15.00.012 07:07 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10863: Add 2 circulation permissions: force_checkout and lift_restriction 07:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1588: SUCCESS in 2 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1588/ 06:40 * magnuse waves 06:39 magnuse Oak 06:30 cait hi Oak :) 06:26 Oak Guten morgen cait 06:26 Oak magnuse 06:26 * Oak waves 06:07 cait night :) 06:07 dcook Err morning? 06:07 dcook Night, cait :) 06:07 dcook In any case, I gotta run 06:03 dcook Ah, maybe it is intentional 06:03 dcook Whatever, I think I'm not going to do it anyway. 06:03 dcook Hmm, I don't know if that's intentional... 06:02 dcook Ah, the sqldatetime seems to include zeroes while format_date doesn't 05:51 dcook It seems like it might be a bit more robust 05:50 cait dcook: i'd say the one in Koha 05:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10863 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add 2 circulation permissions: force_checkout and lift_restriction 05:49 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: (follow-up) give limited circ operator way to proceed 05:49 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: (follow-up) set correct description for manage_restrictions permission during upgrade 05:49 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10863: DBRev 3.15.00.012 05:49 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10863: Add 2 circulation permissions: force_checkout and lift_restriction 05:49 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #297: SUCCESS in 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/297/ 05:46 * dcook thinks he should use the former? 05:46 dcook The former uses the Koha namespace and the latter the C4 05:46 * dcook contemplates the difference between "format_sqldatetime" and "format_date" 05:12 paxed looks like the tooltip 'Dates of birth should be entered in the format "[% format %]"' is not translatable. can anyone confirm that? 05:07 mtompset Hopefully this blizzard warning doesn't affect my driving tomorrow. :( 05:07 mtompset Well, have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. 04:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #1588 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 04:51 mtompset Is there a way to know if you are using OPAC or Staff Client in any given function? 04:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #297 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 04:48 mtompset 38 files use GetBranchesLoop?! 04:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10863: (follow-up) give limited circ operator way to proceed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=917dad97a86dd4f8c23a07cea5e3294c9da88f07> / Bug 10863: (follow-up) set correct description for manage_restrictions permission... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=936f04fa471ea1be5731e02b8f6fa690f33a9e6a> / Bug 10863: DBRev 3.15.00.012 <http://git.koha-community.org 04:44 mtompset My simple patch... busts other things. :( 04:43 mtompset But considering how crazy used the function is... it is a mess. 04:42 mtompset All I wanted to do was change it to only display if a field was set to 1 or 0 for a show_in_opac value. 04:42 mtompset It looks like it, gmcharlt. 04:42 gmcharlt I'm afraid you're about to get buried under the dead weight of history ;) 04:41 * gmcharlt hands mtompset a shovel 04:41 mtompset Hmmm... the logic for the branches to display in a branch dropdown is crazy weird. 04:17 eythian yeah :) 04:17 eythian -w enable many useful warnings 04:17 mtompset Ah, -w 04:17 mtompset You forgot use warnings; 04:13 eythian Pretty sure it gives you undef 04:13 eythian doesn't warn 04:13 eythian $ 04:13 eythian $ perl -w -e 'use strict; my @a=qw(a) ; shift @a ; shift @a ;' 04:13 * dcook would think that it would give you a null instead but hasn't really tried it either way in a while 04:11 mtompset If you shift and there is nothing, it warns, as far as I know, eythian. 04:00 eythian though it's probable you'd want //, which wasn't available until recently. 03:59 eythian I don't _think_ that warns 03:59 eythian I woulda just done shift || otherthing() 03:57 mtompset (GetBranchesLoop in C4/Branch.pm) 03:57 mtompset Clever and evil way of avoiding warnings on the shift. 03:53 mtompset I'm not sure I'm ask a 14 year old to shovel snow. 03:44 dcook ^^ 03:44 gmcharlt then he too, can get stuff off tall shelves for talljoy ;) 03:43 dcook Only 10 years to go then! 03:43 mtompset dcook: My son is only 4. :P 03:41 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 03:41 gmcharlt @later tell cait is the change to the German label for the circulate/override_renewals permission correct in the patch for bug 10863? 02:51 * dcook apologizes for the ranting monologue. 02:50 dcook Aha. Indeed... 02:49 * dcook thinks perhaps the file has moved.. 02:48 dcook Hmm, not showing up on Github either.. 02:47 dcook Don't know if it is relevant, but I'm getting a "GET http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/static/gitweb.js 404 (Not Found) " error when I try to load the git tree 02:45 dcook Had the wrong context but now I can't find the file at all.. 02:42 dcook It's probably because I'm a silly pants 02:42 dcook Actually, I might have an idea.. 02:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10141 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Enable "18-21 Illustrations" and "24-27 Nature of contents" options for marc21_field_008.pl plugin 02:40 dcook Bug 10141 doesn't appear in the history online, but it's definitely there.. 02:39 dcook On an unrelated note, anyone know why "koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_field_008.xml" might not be updated on the koha-community/gitweb, but it is in master? 02:38 dcook I mean ethically 02:38 dcook Besides chocolate that is 02:38 dcook Actually, I'm really looking forward to seeing them stand up for something 02:38 dcook Hmm, perhaps a decent trade off 02:33 wizzyrea ...and the hugs and kisses too. 02:33 wizzyrea but you also get the sassing and the whinging! 02:30 dcook night talljoy 02:30 talljoy i'm done for the night. later y'all 02:27 talljoy LOL 02:27 dcook The eugenics is because we care 02:27 * dcook doesn't want *that* many children 02:27 dcook So to speak 02:27 dcook Nothwithstanding a difficult pregnancy, sleepless nights, and parenting difficulties, I think I'm looking forward to having my own legion 02:27 talljoy strategic family planning 02:26 dcook lol 02:26 talljoy that's why i had two kids. one is taller and one is shorter. one for the plates, one for the placemats 02:26 dcook Mmm, she does cook really well though.. 02:26 dcook I think I might just be the manslave 02:25 dcook Now that I think about it, I'm the tall one, and I'm the one still reaching things on the bottom shelves.. 02:25 dcook I was going to say 02:25 dcook hehe 02:25 talljoy near abouts. 02:25 jcamins talljoy: but... aren't you about a million feet tall? 02:25 talljoy when i don't want to get up myself. given i'm still taller 02:24 talljoy right now he's a good size for getting things off the top shelf fo rme. 02:24 dcook hehe 02:24 dcook Yeah, I had a dishwasher in high school. It was rather handy. 02:24 talljoy if i had snow, he'd be out there shoveling. for sure. 02:24 dcook Pretty good size for hard labour ;). 02:24 talljoy dishwashers are worth their weight in gold. mine is broken, hence the child labor 02:23 talljoy and he's not quite man sized. he's close...about 5 foot 9 or 5 foot 10 he has a few more inches to grow. 02:23 * dcook does the dishes (usually) 02:23 dcook talljoy: I think that's why my wife married me 02:23 dcook Notwithstanding the East coast and the occasional storm, it doesn't really snow *that* much in Canada.. 02:23 talljoy he was doing dishes. 02:23 talljoy no snow 02:22 * dcook wonders if mowing lawns is worse than pushing snow 02:22 dcook No snow to push in Texas I imagine though? 02:21 dcook Yeah, I suppose 14 is when I got man sized 02:21 dcook hehe 02:21 talljoy he is 14 years old. so your estimate dcook is not that far off. 02:20 talljoy me: "um yah. that's why i had kids" 02:20 talljoy teen "what are we free labor" 02:20 talljoy funny, just had this conversation with mine today. 02:18 dcook ...so that they can do the chores well :p 02:18 dcook I want to have healthy children someday... 02:17 dcook You might need to put in 15 years before they can do that though.. 02:17 dcook mtompset: You need to have children so they can do it for you 01:29 mtompset Now my back aches, arms ache,and am totally exhausted, and I'm short on hours today as a result of these delays. 01:27 wizzyrea oops. 01:14 mtompset I didn't quite shovel my driveway enough, and the car got stuck for 1.5 hours. 01:14 mtompset http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/messy-mix-of-snow-and-rain-gets-underway-sunday/18945?warningtype=sw&ref=wxnetappstormwatchV5&var1=1073994112 01:14 mtompset this weather is awful! ouch! 00:28 dcook Mmm, I forgot about the "delimiter" syspref... 00:05 dcook I might not have signed off but at least I lowered the queue by one..