Time Nick Message
00:56 eythian jcamins or gmcharlt or someone: the packages are currently still using GRS-1 I think. If we add DOM, is it worth making it configurable, or just have everything use DOM by default?
00:57 jcamins eythian: I think it would have to be configurable since UNIMARC DOM may or may not work yet.
00:57 eythian oh OK.
00:58 dcook hey jatara
00:59 jatara Hi, all. I was wondering if there was another way to send patches to the koha-patches mailing list. I keep running into issues when I use git send-email.
00:59 jcamins jatara: once you're subscribed, you can just send e-mails with the patches attached.
01:00 eythian jcamins: oh, I read that as UNICODE. UNIMARC is less of an issue :) (for me right now at least.)
01:01 jatara That'll work. I don't know why I didn't think of that in the first place. :)
01:01 jatara Thanks so much.
01:02 jatara Once I upload a patch, do I need to change the status from new to Needs Signoff or QA?
01:02 dcook Does git send-email require a MTA to be set up?
01:02 dcook jatara: "Needs Signoff"
01:02 wahanui "Needs Signoff" is probably for a follow-up to fix a test.
01:03 dcook Just ignore the bot :p
01:03 eythian dcook: you apologise to wahanui!
01:03 dcook hehe
01:03 dcook Nevar!
01:04 wizzyrea just ignore the bot is <reply> Hey I take exception to that.
01:04 jatara So change the status to QA?
01:04 dcook Nope, change it to "Needs Signoff"
01:04 jatara Gotcha -- can you tell this is my very first patch? :)
01:04 wizzyrea we were all there once. :)
01:04 dcook It's a good patch!
01:04 dcook bug 11415, yes?
01:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11415 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , SCO has no option to disable automatic receipt printing
01:05 jatara Yep, that's the one.
01:05 jatara I'm putting in a test case now.
01:05 dcook jatara++
01:06 dcook This might be handy: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commit_messages
01:07 jatara Ahh. That's where the test case is supposed to go.
01:23 dcook All right. I'm going to try gmcharlt's idea of patch series. Wish me luck!
01:23 jatara Good luck!
01:24 dcook Thanks, jatara :)
01:24 dcook If all goes well, I hope to test your patch later in the day
01:24 dcook (It's only 12:24pm here ;) )
01:25 jatara Whoohoo! *crossing fingers* I hope it works. I got a lot of irate emails about the popup feature so I decided to write the syspref myself.
01:25 dcook \o/
01:25 dcook Well, not about the irate emails, but yay for writing the syspref and submitting it!
01:26 dcook I dream about more folks in librarians submitting patches
01:26 dcook err
01:26 dcook folks in libraries*
01:27 jcamins dcook: the chipmunk in my brain appreciated the recognition.
01:28 dcook lol
01:28 jatara I'm happy to do it. It wasn't too bad -- just need to study the architecture a bit.
01:29 dcook Well done :)
01:30 dcook tcohen++
01:31 dcook @later tell tcohen A Song for our Fathers was such a good recommendation!
01:31 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
01:31 eythian are there any docs anywhere for converting an existing installation to use ICU
01:31 eythian ?
01:32 dcook eythian: Not sure :/.
01:33 eythian guess I'll read the code
01:34 dcook Off the top of my head, I know the syspref does nothing
01:34 dcook Or rather, it doesn't affect Zebra
01:34 dcook I don't know what it actually does in the code
01:35 dcook I think you can just change the syspref, change your default.idx, re-index, then be good to go, but...I've only done one and it was a little over a year ago
01:39 eythian yeah, I just couldn't see how it was supposed to change.
01:39 eythian $config{ZEBRA_TOKENIZER_STMT} = $config{ZEBRA_TOKENIZER} eq 'icu'
01:39 eythian ? 'icuchain words-icu.xml'
01:39 eythian : 'charmap word-phrase-utf.chr';
01:39 eythian that looks likely
01:39 eythian the syspref shouldn't exist.
01:40 eythian it should be a config in the koha-conf
01:40 eythian because the only thing that changing it can do is break stuff.
01:41 dcook Yep
02:07 edveal hello
02:08 wizzyrea sup ed
02:10 edveal trea are you in?
02:11 trea yep
02:13 * trea shrugs.
02:28 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
02:28 mtompset Does Christopher Brannon come on the IRC channel at all, and if so, what's his nick? I'd like to give some karma. :)
02:29 eythian http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars <-- not according to this
03:44 mtompset eythian++ # thanks for the help. :)
03:58 mtompset sandboxes++
03:58 mtompset biblibre++
04:14 dcook @later tell gmcharlt Is bug 11473 an example of what you mean when you talk about a patch series?
04:14 huginn dcook: The operation succeeded.
04:32 mtompset Woo hoo! I got my external authentication patch working with boot strap. It's clunky, but sufficient. :)
04:33 mtompset I'm assuming that all the template files for the bootstrap theme were done by oleonard, right?
04:34 mtompset oleonard++ # love the readable indentation in the bootstrap template files!
04:36 mtompset Greetings, dcook. :)
04:37 * dcook waves
04:54 druthb o/
05:42 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
05:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #294 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED)
05:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #1585 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
05:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11468: Remove given/when from Koha::Dateutils <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b529ca00e0cac093fc32a1d123cdbcc84582c155> / Bug 11474: (follow-up) correct typos in POD <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=81a302360aea10bca1598b32b711c48216e486ac> / Bug 11474: Remove errors caused by use of given/when statement <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=
06:45 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #294: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/294/
06:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11470: fix occassional spurious test failure in Circulation_transfers.t
06:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7002: fix some invalid superlibrarian permission checks
06:45 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11316 - plugin icon missing tooltip in addbiblio.pl
06:45 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11474: Remove errors caused by use of given/when statement
06:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11474: (follow-up) correct typos in POD
06:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11470 minor, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Circulation_transfers.t can fail, spuriously
06:45 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11468: Remove given/when from Koha::Dateutils
06:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7002 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Inaccurate checks for borrower flags == 1
06:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11316 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , plugin icon missing tooltip in addbiblio.pl
06:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11474 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove experimental given/when from C4::Utils::Datatables
06:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11468 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove use of smartmatch from DateUtils
07:06 * magnuse waves
07:35 reiveune hello
07:44 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:44 magnuse @wunder boo
07:44 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
07:44 reiveune salut magnuse kathryn rangi
07:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1585: SUCCESS in 2 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1585/
07:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11470: fix occassional spurious test failure in Circulation_transfers.t
07:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7002: fix some invalid superlibrarian permission checks
07:55 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11316 - plugin icon missing tooltip in addbiblio.pl
07:55 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11474: Remove errors caused by use of given/when statement
07:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11474: (follow-up) correct typos in POD
07:55 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11468: Remove given/when from Koha::Dateutils
07:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11470 minor, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Circulation_transfers.t can fail, spuriously
07:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7002 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Inaccurate checks for borrower flags == 1
07:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11316 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , plugin icon missing tooltip in addbiblio.pl
07:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11474 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove experimental given/when from C4::Utils::Datatables
07:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11468 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Remove use of smartmatch from DateUtils
07:58 magnuse success!
07:58 wahanui well, success is a good thing jenkins
07:58 magnuse confetti!
07:58 wahanui i heard confetti was http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif
07:58 magnuse confetti!
07:58 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
07:58 magnuse \o/
08:01 alex_a bonjour
08:01 magnuse hiya alex_a
08:02 alex_a hiya magnuse
08:45 nlegrand Hey #koha!
08:50 magnuse hiya nlegrand
08:57 sophie_m hello #koha, happy new year !
09:11 magnuse happy new year sophie_m!
09:17 cait hi #koha
09:23 magnuse guten morgen cait
09:23 cait morning :)
09:23 nlegrand hey cait magnuse sophie_m :)
09:23 cait today is a holiday in my state :D
09:24 magnuse ooh, lucky you!
09:25 Nacht Hello i try to install koha on a ubuntu but when i do sudo a2ensite library it says library does not exists ... ? i did do the sudo koha-create --create-db library so why does it not exist ... ?
09:26 cait hm when you install packages, you shouldn't need to do the a2ensite
09:27 cait can you tell us which instructions you used?
09:27 Nacht http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
09:28 Nacht i'm testing it on a local machine
09:28 cait hm
09:28 cait magnuse: you know the packages better - can you help?
09:28 cait maybe i was wrong then about the apache command, not sure
09:29 cait oh
09:29 cait are you using newest ubuntu?
09:29 Nacht if i try sudo koha-create --create-db library again it ays its already done
09:29 Nacht ye
09:29 cait apache 2.4 changed a bunch of things
09:30 cait it expects that the sites_available is named .conf
09:30 cait and some other things
09:30 cait that could be related to your problem, let me dig a bit
09:31 Nacht ok
09:31 cait Nacht: wher are you from?
09:31 cait bug 11404
09:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11404 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , add out-of-the-box support for Apache 2.4
09:32 cait i think yo have run into this bug caused by the new apache version
09:32 Nacht cait: Belgium
09:32 cait ah - i am from germany :) wondered about your nick
09:33 Nacht should i wait until it fixed ?
09:33 cait hm
09:33 cait are yo udoing it on a test machine?
09:34 Nacht yes
09:34 cait if you have the option ot use an older ubuntu or debian that would work
09:34 Nacht for now
09:34 cait anything that doesn't have apache 2.4 should work
09:34 Nacht does it not upgrade automatically if i sudo apt-get upgrade
09:35 cait installing on debian if that is an option for you would probably work best
09:36 Nacht hmz dont hav e a debian at the moment but i try to get one
09:36 cait sorry for the problem you ran into
09:36 cait i think lots of programs are facing that now
09:36 Nacht thats life ;)
09:36 cait apache changed quite a bit
09:36 magnuse yup, the problem is caused by apache 2.4 expecting site configs to end in .conf
09:37 Nacht if i rename would that help ?
09:37 magnuse you could try to rename the file /etc/apache2/sites/available/library to library.conf
09:37 magnuse but that might break other things
09:37 Nacht ok
09:38 magnuse if you like to tinker it's worth a try though
09:38 cait yeah, looking at tcohens patch it seems alot of the package related commands wouldn't work right
09:38 cait some information about the apache chanes are here: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/upgrading.html
09:39 cait hm
09:39 magnuse actually, a quick and dirty workaround might be "sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/sites/available/library /etc/apache2/sites/available/library.conf"
09:39 magnuse that is purely an ad hoc workaround, though
09:39 cait [off] https://librarygeekgirl.ssl-secured-server.de/wiki/doku.php?id=koha:apache2 < some hints maybe, i used this on my dev machine, not using packages
09:40 Nacht ok i try
09:51 * cait keeps fingers crossed
10:12 cait we really need to make ICU the default
10:12 * cait just wanted to note that
10:17 magnuse cait: is there a bug for it?
10:25 cait hm not sure
10:25 cait will golooking after mygranola
10:46 magnuse hm, couldn't there be a field for social security number (and things like it) in koha? just not mandatory?
10:47 magnuse i mean in the borrowers table
10:52 cait ew
10:53 cait it's really sensitive data
10:53 cait i would prefer a way to turn that off with a big warning
10:53 cait magnuse: patron attributes won't work?
10:58 cait well turn it on that is... off by default :)
10:58 cait ashimema++ ashimema++ :)
10:58 ashimema ?
10:58 ashimema :)
11:00 cait just double karma for very thorough qa :)
11:01 cait there are some very easy ones i signed off and can't qa...
11:02 cait if you want easy for a change :)
11:02 cait bug 11457
11:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11457 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Signed Off , t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t can fail when subscription table is not empty
11:02 cait bug 11452
11:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11452 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Signed Off , Add some tests for Koha::Template::Plugin::Cache
11:02 cait and bug 7965
11:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7965 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Signed Off , Silence warns in staff error log (koha-error_log)
11:08 ashimema :)
11:08 ashimema will take a look this afternoon
11:09 cait that would be awesome, but no pressure - really :)
12:03 tcohen morning #koha
12:03 cait morning tcohen :)
12:04 tcohen hi cait!
12:04 wahanui hi cait! are you safely back in germany now?
12:05 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
12:09 tcohen hi magnuse
12:09 cait wahanui: yes.
12:09 wahanui cait: huh?
12:09 cait forget hi cait!
12:09 cait hi cait!
12:09 wahanui hi cait! are you safely back in germany now?
12:09 cait hm.
12:10 cait wahanui forget hi cait!
12:10 wahanui cait, I didn't have anything matching hi cait
12:10 cait gr.
12:10 cait hi cait! is <reply>
12:10 cait hi cait!
12:10 magnuse hi cait!
12:12 cait hah!
12:40 tcohen cait: you're right about bug 11400
12:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11400 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Show "Login as a different user" instead of "Logout" if not enough premissions
12:41 cait tcohen: i hate failing patches :(
12:41 tcohen we know :-D
12:41 cait and not only because most of them keep coming back at me!
12:41 cait :)
12:42 cait but as the patch is somehow a cosmetic change, i felt it shoudl look right too
12:42 cait well or at least look a bit better
12:55 tcohen cait: the button itself has no reason to be there on the first place
12:55 cait hm?
12:57 tcohen if the user is presented the login form, why provide a link to the login form?
12:58 * magnuse hopes the us koha people are not freezing too badly
12:58 oleonard @wunder 45701
12:58 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -9.2°C (7:50 AM EST on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until noon EST today...
12:59 oleonard It's supposed to get colder and colder throughout the day today
13:00 tcohen hi oleonard
13:00 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:00 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 30.0°C (10:00 AM ART on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
13:00 oleonard tcohen: What login link are you talking about?
13:00 cait @wunder Konstanz
13:00 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.0°C (1:55 PM CET on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
13:00 magnuse @wunder boo
13:00 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 5.0°C (1:50 PM CET on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady).
13:00 cait ih oleonard - did you get my message?
13:01 oleonard cait: Yes, but I'm not sure when I'll have a chance to look today. Hopefully this afternoon.
13:01 cait i mean it's way too warm here... but... norway!?
13:01 cait oleonard: thx :)
13:02 tcohen http://snag.gy/n1PbU.jpg
13:03 cait tcohen: i can seew hat you mean
13:03 tcohen glad to hear
13:03 cait we never noticed that it seems
13:04 tcohen how does my idea look to you?
13:05 cait it seems to make more sense
13:07 francharb morning
13:11 tcohen hi francharb
13:19 francharb hi tcohen
13:40 oleonard Hi nengard
13:41 nengard hello
13:41 cait hi nengard
13:41 nengard happy new year everyone
13:41 francharb hi nengard!
13:41 francharb happy new year you too
13:42 francharb nengard, I haven't forget the pattern you ask me for the documentation, I'll do it as soon as I can! ;)
13:43 nengard No rush! I've waiting 5 years already :) hehe
13:43 francharb hehe. Lets not wait 5 more years!
13:43 francharb ;)
13:50 oleonard Hi druthb
13:53 druthb Hi, oleonard.
13:53 druthb @wunder 77098
13:53 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Royal Brook, Houston, Texas is -2.5°C (7:46 AM CST on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.55 in 1034 hPa (Rising). Hard freeze warning in effect until 9 am CST this morning...
13:54 oleonard Colder than Norway, but not colder than Ohio druthb
13:55 druthb plenty cold enough!
13:56 cait colder than germany
13:56 cait @wunder Konstanz
13:56 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.8°C (2:55 PM CET on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
13:56 cait but germany is even colder than norway these days it seems....
13:59 bgallagher Hello
13:59 Dyrcona Large parts of the U.S. are colder than Mars at the moment.
14:00 oleonard bgallagher's got the right idea
14:00 cait hi bgallagher and Dyrcona
14:00 Dyrcona Hi, cait!
14:00 bgallagher It's wicked hot here
14:01 cait :)
14:01 bgallagher @wunder Bangkok Thailand
14:01 huginn bgallagher: The current temperature in Patumwan Demonstration School, Bangkok, Thailand is 28.3°C (8:52 PM ICT on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 21.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
14:02 oleonard Is that where you are now bgallagher?
14:02 bgallagher Yup at a friends from high schools house
14:02 bgallagher Flying out tomorrow
14:03 oleonard Did you get a chance to see any of the city?
14:03 bgallagher I've heard the protesters are planning on shutting down the airports on the 13th of jan
14:03 bgallagher oleonard: We had a chance to see some of it
14:03 druthb "One night in Bangkok makes the hard man humble…"
14:04 tcohen_ magnuse, interested on bug 10869, do u plan to write a patch? i'm about to
14:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10869 major, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Needs Signoff , can't delete order line if title deleted
14:04 bgallagher I'm soft druthb
14:04 tcohen_ magnuse, it was bug 10896
14:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10896 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add a --verbose option to koha-translate
14:04 druthb "One town's very like another when you're head's down over your pieces, brother."
14:04 cait Dear authority...
14:04 cait ?
14:04 * druthb can't type today; hurty a lot.
14:05 bgallagher Heya cait what time is it there?
14:05 wahanui i already had it that way, bgallagher.
14:05 cait 15:05
14:06 Joubu Best wishes #koha!
14:06 bgallagher @druthb++
14:07 huginn bgallagher: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
14:07 oleonard Hi Joubu
14:07 bgallagher druthb++
14:07 cait hi Joubu
14:07 ebegin quebec weather is quite unstable :)
14:07 francharb hi Joubu
14:07 druthb eh? what for?
14:07 Joubu hi all :)
14:07 cait happy new year :)
14:07 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec
14:07 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 6.0°C (9:00 AM EST on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.21 in 989 hPa (Rising).
14:07 bgallagher Cause I like you druthb
14:07 cait druthb: did you ever need a reason to give out karma? ;)
14:07 francharb Joubu, how is it going in liverpool?
14:07 druthb oh, okay.
14:07 francharb ;)
14:08 cait druthb++
14:08 * cait tries to find enough courage to test a holds bug
14:08 Joubu @later tell gmcharlt have a look to my last note on bug 11336 please
14:08 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
14:08 Joubu francharb: it is... raining
14:08 Joubu and freezing
14:09 francharb :)
14:09 cait Joubu: on holiday?
14:09 Joubu and beers are hot
14:09 bgallagher Ha
14:09 Joubu cait: no, I moved :)
14:09 cait seriously?
14:09 Joubu to improve my English...
14:10 Joubu (and to follow my girlfriend)
14:10 cait aaah :)
14:10 cait congrats on the move - big news :)
14:11 oleonard Where are you now Joubu?
14:11 Joubu I don't have an Internet access at my house, so I am at the library (they don't use Koha!)
14:12 Joubu So I am developing Koha in a library where they don't use it :)
14:12 ebegin Congrats Joubu !
14:12 Joubu oleonard: In Liverpool
14:12 francharb Joubu++
14:12 ebegin Joubu, do you know which ILS they are using ?
14:12 oleonard Were you in Marseille before Joubu?
14:13 magnuse Joubu: you should give them a lesson ;-)
14:13 Joubu ebegin: No, I don't know
14:13 francharb Joubu, ask
14:13 francharb ;)
14:13 ebegin ask when they are planning to change :)
14:13 Joubu oleonard: near Marseille, in Toulon
14:13 cait Joubu: glad you are still working on Koha :)
14:14 francharb cait, Joubu still works for Biblibre
14:14 francharb ;)
14:14 cait :)
14:14 oleonard Lucky for Biblibre :)
14:15 Joubu http://capitadiscovery.co.uk/liverpool/
14:15 cait anyone planning to move to germany? :)
14:15 * oleonard realizes his knowledge of French geography is better than his UK geography
14:16 Joubu I don't know what is the ILS
14:18 francharb Powered by Talis Prism
14:19 magnuse cait: we did enjoy hamburg quite a lot... ;-)
14:20 cait glad to hear that :)
14:21 magnuse cait: organize a koha happening in germany so veryone can come see how nice it is :-)
14:22 cait that's a good plan :)
14:22 bgallagher Yes
14:22 bgallagher YES!
14:22 magnuse YES!!!
14:22 bgallagher Please?
14:22 tcohen_ gmcharlt: around?
14:22 * magnuse is carried away by bgallagher's enthusiasm
14:23 bgallagher tcohen_: Still early there I think - 0623
14:23 sophie_m I'm also found of Hamburg :)
14:23 ebegin Funny, from the liverpool librarycatalog :"Please note that it is always advisable to telephone the library before making a journey to collect an item showing as 'available' on the catalogue."
14:23 tcohen_ hi bgallagher! thanks for the tip
14:23 druthb magnuse! o/
14:24 tcohen_ hey druthb
14:24 druthb hi, tcohen! :)
14:24 cait bgallagher: heh - I will rmember your enthusiasm for th eidea :)
14:25 talljoy morning all
14:25 magnuse \o/ druthb
14:25 druthb hi, talljoy.
14:25 cait ebegin: that sounds wrong - yes
14:25 talljoy hi druthb
14:26 cait hi talljoy
14:26 talljoy hiya cait!
14:26 bgallagher Of course cait - I will always be excited!
14:29 magnuse but what should it be? a summer hackfest, to fit in between the spring hackfest in marseille and the conf in the fall/autumn?
14:30 cait yeah it's a bit hard with kohacon and the hackfest in marseille
14:32 cait @quote help
14:32 huginn cait: downloading the Perl source
14:32 cait @quote search holds
14:32 huginn cait: No matching quotes were found.
14:32 cait hm how do you look up a quote?
14:37 magnuse @quote random
14:37 huginn magnuse: Quote #259: "<mtompset> What have I found?! The horror! The horror!" (added by wizzyrea at 10:26 PM, June 12, 2013)
14:38 ebegin @quote help
14:38 huginn ebegin: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
14:38 ebegin :)
14:39 * cait reminds everyone that the sign off queue is exploding
14:39 bgallagher Yay!
14:40 cait lol
14:40 cait yay?
14:40 bgallagher Wait is that a good explosion
14:40 cait no! .)
14:40 bgallagher Oh whoops
14:40 cait we have almost 200 patches waiting for testers! :)
14:40 bgallagher Then booooooo
14:40 nengard eeek
14:40 nengard I'll see what I can do once I get some tickets done today
14:40 nengard lots of catching up to do
14:40 cait :)
14:42 magnuse bug 11190
14:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11190 new feature, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , sitemap.pl -- Generate a Catalog sitemap
14:42 magnuse i'll sign off on that this evening
14:46 Joubu cait: On friday, I will "lead" a group of librarians (from the Lyon 3 university) for a SO session. I hope they will SO a lot of patches :)
14:47 cait :)
14:47 magnuse yay!
14:47 cait encourage them to leave some notes about their testing?
14:48 cait i know they might not, because it's hard
14:48 cait but it woudl be nice :)
14:48 magnuse should we think about a gbsd, or has that lost it's ability to generate interest?
14:48 magnuse oops, time for dinner!
14:48 cait heh
14:48 cait gbsd < dinner ;)
14:50 Joubu cait: yep, I will tell them to describe what they test
14:50 cait thx :)
15:09 cait1 holds make my brain hurt :(
15:09 * oleonard too
15:09 bgallagher Talk to khall
15:10 khall holds chase me with axes in my nightmares
15:10 bgallagher :)
15:10 bgallagher Or whoops :(
15:11 * cait1 sends cookies to khall
15:11 cait1 and a dream catcher
15:13 cait1 grrrrrr
15:15 cait1 khall: could you take a look at my test case?
15:15 cait1 it doesn't want to behave as i think it should
15:16 khall will do!
15:16 cait1 http://paste.koha-community.org/52
15:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11342: fix error in OPAC self registration form if BorrowersTitles is empty <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a5f737dcbb1c695130a3acafd46a63a44f2e4cf>
15:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #295 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:36 cait14 ok.. working on my math course now...
15:36 cait14 don't let me do more qa before i have read 13 pages...
15:40 jenkins_koha Starting build #1586 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
15:40 Joubu gmcharlt: arround?
15:40 gmcharlt Joubu: yes
15:41 Joubu gmcharlt: Did you see my note on bug 13366?
15:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13366 was not found.
15:41 Joubu no...
15:41 Joubu bug 11336
15:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11336 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Priority is not updated on deleting holds
15:41 gmcharlt Joubu: so, how is the future? ;)
15:42 gmcharlt Joubu: gah, I'll fix that now
15:42 Joubu 13366 will certainly be a bug about holds...
15:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10429: improve display of library and library filter on serials claim page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=42eb8b2286e8af9894ec41d3f193416ffe81815b>
15:43 Joubu gmcharlt: thanks!
15:50 tcohen gmcharlt: about 11096
15:51 tcohen would u agree with testing for DOM, and fallback to previous code if grs-1?
15:53 gmcharlt tcohen: I believe I had suggested something like that when I referenced checking the values of zebra_bib_index_mode and zebra_auth_index_mode
15:53 tcohen you did
16:16 oleonard Hi bshum
16:16 * bshum waves at oleonard
16:16 bshum IRC client hiccup :\
16:17 * oleonard offers bshum's IRC client a glass of water
16:18 * cait14 wavestoo
16:21 * Dyrcona smacks bshum's IRC client on the back.
16:21 bshum it could apparently use it...
16:23 reiveune bye
16:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11336: (follow-up) fix typo in previous follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7af64ff7bd26eaa0d8cdb688f0db1526e438f087>
16:31 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #295: SUCCESS in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/295/
16:31 jenkins_koha Kyle M Hall: Bug 11342: fix error in OPAC self registration form if BorrowersTitles is empty
16:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11342 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Error with opac self registration if BorrowersTitles is empty
16:33 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6886: (follow-up) remove redundant test for singleBranchMode <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d2cd6771e616b46eda936ccdf76823e6f520617> / Bug 6886: (follow-up) replace needless with <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b855c76d07d41eff2873f6e2ba9dc3a43f98d11> / Bug 6886: ensure that singleBranchMode does not display library name for reference... <http://git.ko
16:35 gmcharlt oleonard: apropos of bug 11310, did you make any Bootstrap-specific changes to the OPAC XSLT?
16:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11310 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Update XSLT stylesheets in bootstrap theme
16:37 oleonard gmcharlt: Not to my recollection, but that's not saying much.
16:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #296 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
16:52 gmcharlt oleonard: OK, I've gone through everything and confirmed that you in fact had not
16:54 cait14 gmcharlt++
16:54 cait14 math--
17:03 gmcharlt cait14: and now there's a patch for 11310
17:03 cait14 thx :)
17:04 cait14 i still have to read math... although people keep distracting me ;)
17:07 * cait14 suffers from complete induction
17:31 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #296: SUCCESS in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/296/
17:32 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10429: improve display of library and library filter on serials claim page
17:32 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11336: (follow-up) fix typo in previous follow-up
17:32 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 6886: ensure that singleBranchMode does not display library name for reference copies
17:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10429 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , branch filter not working in serial claims
17:32 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 6886: (follow-up) replace needless <xsl:choose> with <xsl:if>
17:32 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 6886: (follow-up) remove redundant test for singleBranchMode
17:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11336 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Priority is not updated on deleting holds
17:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6886 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Single branch mode should disable showing the branch name in front of all callnumbers
17:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1586: SUCCESS in 2 hr 15 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1586/
17:53 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 11342: fix error in OPAC self registration form if BorrowersTitles is empty
17:53 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10429: improve display of library and library filter on serials claim page
17:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11342 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Error with opac self registration if BorrowersTitles is empty
17:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10429 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , branch filter not working in serial claims
17:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #1587 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:04 Joubu goodbye #koha
18:08 pastebot "tcohen" at 172.22.66.78 pasted "gmcharlt: something like this? and glue in Search.pm and AuthoritiesMarc.pm?" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/53
18:20 gmcharlt tcohen: yes
18:21 tcohen gmcharlt: if you use grs1 and index using -x conversion is done, right?
18:29 nengard eeek upgraded to mavericks and now git isn't installed anymore
18:29 nengard off to fix that
18:36 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
18:37 druthb hi, mtompset.
18:37 nengard Koha manual branched - we now have a 3.14 branch
18:38 nengard time to start on the 3.16 manual
18:40 gmcharlt tcohen: yes, I believe so
18:41 mtompset Greetings, druthb nengard gmcharlt tcohen. :)
18:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #432 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #432: SUCCESS in 22 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/432/
18:53 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update dates and version
18:53 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add patron purchase suggestion tab
18:53 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update purchase suggestions section
19:24 nengard gmcharlt or rangi i branched the manual so there is a new 3.14.x branch if that matters to jenkins
19:24 nengard and hi hankbank!!
19:25 hankbank heya nicole
19:25 nengard happy new year
19:25 mtompset Happy New Year, hankbank nengard. :)
19:26 hankbank Issa says "New Year's Day--everything is in blossom! I feel about average. "
19:30 gmcharlt nengard: thanks for the heads-up
19:30 nengard I emailed the docs list - but didn't want to spam all lists
19:35 oleonard @wunder 45701
19:35 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -15.7°C (2:30 PM EST on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -22.0°C. Windchill: -21.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). Wind chill warning in effect from 4 PM this afternoon to 3 PM EST Tuesday...
19:36 cait cooold!
19:36 druthb brr
19:36 druthb @wunder 77098
19:36 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 1.1°C (1:36 PM CST on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.59 in 1036 hPa (Rising). Hard freeze warning in effect from 9 PM this evening to 9 am CST Tuesday...
19:36 mtompset @wunder l7e 5y5
19:36 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -7.9°C (2:36 PM EST on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Rising).
19:36 druthb @wunder iqualuit
19:36 huginn druthb: Error: No such location could be found.
19:36 mtompset @wunder h0h0h0
19:37 huginn mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
19:37 druthb @wunder Iqaluit
19:37 mtompset Come on!
19:37 huginn druthb: Error: No such location could be found.
19:37 mtompset @wunder h0h 0h0
19:37 huginn mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
19:37 druthb grr. It used to know that!
19:37 mtompset h0h0h0 is the postal code of the North Pole, because it is currently Canadian! *sheesh*
19:37 druthb @wunder X0a 0h0
19:37 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Iqaluit, Nunavut is -28.0°C (2:00 PM EST on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -34.0°C. Windchill: -34.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1022 hPa (Falling).
19:37 druthb There we go.
19:38 mtompset Manitoba was colder than Mars the other day.
19:44 magnuse_ tcohen around?
19:47 tcohen yes
19:51 tcohen magnuse_: ?
19:54 magnuse_ i'm looking at bug 10896
19:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10896 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add a --verbose option to koha-translate
19:55 magnuse_ i was wondering about the synopsis: koha-translate [-i|--install] [-u|--update] [-r|--remove] [-c|--check] [[-v|--verbose]] {lang_code}
19:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1587: SUCCESS in 2 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1587/
19:55 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11336: (follow-up) fix typo in previous follow-up
19:55 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 6886: ensure that singleBranchMode does not display library name for reference copies
19:55 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 6886: (follow-up) replace needless <xsl:choose> with <xsl:if>
19:56 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 6886: (follow-up) remove redundant test for singleBranchMode
19:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11336 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Priority is not updated on deleting holds
19:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6886 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Single branch mode should disable showing the branch name in front of all callnumbers
19:56 magnuse_ tcohen: any special reason for the double [[]] arund --verbose?
19:58 mtompset -- Hmmm... What if translate_opts is empty? install_lang() around line 106.
20:01 magnuse_ mtompset: looking at 10896?
20:01 mtompset Ah... okay... Since you mentioned it, I thought I'd peek.
20:02 magnuse_ :-)
20:02 mtompset the double [[]]?
20:02 mtompset Where?
20:02 magnuse_ in the synopsis in the man page
20:04 magnuse_ ah, i see it <arg>[<option>-v</option>|<option>--verbose</option>]</arg> the literal [] are superfluous
20:04 magnuse_ i'll fail qa it for that :-(
20:05 mtompset But he didn't put them in...
20:05 mtompset I don't see it in the patch.
20:05 mtompset Where in the patch?
20:06 magnuse_ oops, perhaps it was already there
20:06 mtompset nevermind... I see it.
20:06 magnuse_ then i'll do a followup
20:10 magnuse_ oh noes, i scared tcohen away...
20:11 tcohen am i online?
20:11 tcohen the double brackets are an error of mine
20:11 tcohen mtompset: if translate_opts is empty, then nothing happens
20:11 tcohen the double brackets are an error of mine
20:12 tcohen i'll fix it later, now heading to my tennis lesson
20:12 tcohen :-D
20:12 tcohen byeeeeeeeeee
20:12 mtompset enjoy.
20:12 mtompset Bye, tcohen.
20:14 magnuse_ have fun tcohen
20:48 barton Just out of curiosity, is there a procedure or process for deprecating code in Koha?
20:51 cait hm what code are you thinking about?
20:51 cait depending on what you are trying to do i would start with a bug, if it's osmething bigger maybe an email to the list
20:54 barton cait: well nothing in particular... I've seen some stuff that looks pretty crufy here and there.
20:54 cait that's easy to believe
20:54 cait we have been working on some clean ups
20:54 cait small steps are preferable
20:55 cait if you think of something specific i would check bugzilla first
20:55 cait well always check bugzilla first :)
20:56 gmcharlt barton: the general procedure is similar to any refactoring, to whit: (a) say one koha-devel what you want to do and solicit feedback, (b) write functional tests for the crufty code, (c) create the new routines, including unit tests, (d) and if all possible, arrange it so that your refactoring can be evaluated piecemeal, not in a huge reinvent-the-world patch
20:57 * druthb reinvents the universe. Cait fails qa on it, and mean ol' gmcharlt refuses to pull it.
20:58 cait druthb: he better does when i failed qa on it!
20:58 cait barton: listen to gmcharlt :)
20:59 barton I was thinking about merging some of the notices scripts in ./misc/cronjobs (basically lumping all of the code into a single file, differentiating using command line arguments), then gradually consolidating code within that larger file.
20:59 druthb don't listen to druthb. She's crazy, talks about herself in third-person, spouts nonsense a lot of the time.
21:00 cait barton: there is some big rewrite going on in the notices area currently
21:00 cait i think working on that could caus ea lot of conflicts
21:01 gmcharlt exactly the reason for talking about one's plans first
21:01 barton cait, gmcharlt: agreed.
21:01 cait 9016 is one of them
21:01 cait but it's a bigger dependency tree
21:02 cait i am also a bit worried about lumping all code into a single file a sa first step
21:02 wahanui okay, cait.
21:03 trea hi #koha - i'm trying to run a z39.50 query on the British Library's server, but i'm getting the following error: "238: Record not available in requested syntax: Available syntax: SUTRS: Bib-1"
21:04 trea i had thought simply changing the type to "UKMARC" would suffice, but i'm not sure that it is the same as SUTRS
21:06 * cait hates holds.
21:06 cait still.
21:07 trea past evidence certainly suggests that folks have queried this target in koha successfully
21:08 cait ?
21:09 jcamins trea: SUTRS is something different than MARC. BL's Z39.50 is a subscription service.
21:09 trea ah, yep - i'm seeing that from looking back through the #koha logs
21:09 jcamins (unless you want SUTRS, in which case you're golden)
21:09 trea so, that's not going to fly
21:09 trea thanks jcamins
21:09 jcamins You're welcome.
21:52 * magnuse_ waves to trea
21:52 * trea waves to magnuse
21:52 trea how was your holidays magnuse
21:53 magnuse_ goodish. leonard and i both got a bit sick, but otherwise good
21:54 magnuse_ and how was yur first xmas in the southern hemisphere?
21:54 wizzyrea 2nd!
21:54 wizzyrea :D
21:54 magnuse_ huh?
21:54 magnuse_ didn't you just move?!?
21:54 wizzyrea :) last year
21:54 trea we moved Oct 13, so this is our 2nd xmas
21:54 wizzyrea well, end of 2012
21:55 trea we've been here 14mos :P
21:55 wizzyrea ^
21:55 magnuse_ wow, time flies so fast these days...
21:55 trea how time flies
21:55 wizzyrea foosh!
21:55 trea indeed
21:55 trea we had a blast though
21:56 magnuse_ yay!
21:56 trea went to Kaikoura, saw some whales, spent some time on the beach
21:56 trea it was really nice
21:56 magnuse_ sounds perfect :-)
21:56 wizzyrea it was not cold.
21:57 magnuse_ yay!
21:57 magnuse_ @wunder boo
21:57 huginn magnuse_: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (10:50 PM CET on January 06, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Rising).
21:57 wizzyrea that is surprisingly warm
21:57 magnuse_ for me, that is "not cold" ;-)
21:57 wizzyrea all your cold is in the US
21:57 magnuse_ yeah, looks like it
21:58 magnuse_ @wunder wellington, nz
21:58 huginn magnuse_: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on January 07, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady).
21:58 magnuse_ nice
21:59 magnuse_ oh well, time to catch some sleep
22:00 magnuse_ have fun #koha! (and rmember to sign off some patches :-)
22:00 eythian hi
22:00 eythian mplayer http://api.new.livestream.com/broadcasts/38997839.m3u8 <-- T-00:06:09
22:09 dcook rangi++
22:17 trea huzzah
22:18 * dcook thinks he's going to have to do some testing if only to thank rangi for his speed and efforts
22:18 cait fill my queue!
22:18 cait :)
22:19 dcook Hehe. I can try!
22:36 francharb bye all
22:49 dcook :S
22:50 dcook Me thinks one of the patches in 8550 was wrongly obsoleted..
22:51 dcook Does anyone but rangi have the power to undo that?
22:51 wizzyrea everyone can
22:51 wizzyrea click the attachment, click details
22:52 dcook O_O
22:52 dcook wizzyrea++
22:52 dcook You're the best
22:52 wizzyrea aw shucks
22:52 wizzyrea that should read, click "edit details"
22:53 wizzyrea or in this case, click show obsolete, then click details, then edit details :P
22:56 dcook Again, you're the best, wizzyrea ^_^
23:03 wizzyrea 3.6 to 3.12 db update takes fo ev uh.
23:03 * wizzyrea twiddles fingers
23:03 eythian it adds columns to some big tables, and does it the slow way
23:04 wizzyrea ooo I should check this one for the mysteriously missing reserves.
23:04 eythian (well, I assume doing all three in one statement would be much faster, but I've never tested that theory.)
23:04 wizzyrea thank you for the oblique reminder