Time Nick Message 23:48 magnuse weird winter indeed 23:48 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (11:50 PM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). 23:48 magnuse @wunder boo 23:06 francharb bye all 23:06 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 22:50 mtompset http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=3466947&postcount=5 ("I think you need Cat-alyst drivers for that motherboard") 22:50 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 20:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11066 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, joy, Pushed to Master , Export Citations not RDA compatible 20:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11066: (follow-up) add regression test 20:03 jenkins_koha * Joy Nelson: Bug 11066: make RIS and Bibtex exports RDA compatible 20:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1583: FIXED in 1 hr 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1583/ 20:03 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 20:03 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 20:03 huginn druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 15.4°C (2:02 PM CST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.31 in 1026 hPa (Rising). 20:03 druthb @wunder 77098 20:01 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 1.0°C (2:01 PM CST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling). 20:01 rambutan @wunder 64507 19:56 cait well not here in Konstanz, it's a weird winter 19:56 cait no snow this year so far 19:56 cait we got rain 19:55 jcamins Ugh. Forecast is for -11C on Tuesday. 19:53 jcamins Oh, huh. 17cm. 19:52 cait oh 19:52 jcamins We got 10cm, maybe. 19:52 jcamins No. 19:52 jcamins Except to that one enterprising woman who was going remarkably fast. 19:51 cait youactually got so much snow in the city? 19:51 cait not really 19:51 jcamins So I can't say I'm surprised. 19:51 jcamins It's not an obvious mode of urban transportation to me. 19:49 cait i have never seen that here 19:49 jcamins cait: this is the first time I ever saw someone skiing in the city. 19:49 cait ? 19:48 jcamins Apparently we can add "skiing" to our list of "ways people travel to get around New York City in 2014." 19:47 jcamins Someone just skied by across the street. 19:36 * talljoy is glad she already ate lunch. grilled pizzas would drive me insanely hungry 18:41 cait dunno 18:40 jcamins cait: when are you getting your oven replaced? 18:34 cait no pizza for me currently 18:34 * cait would be happy with a new oven too 18:32 jcamins Yeah, I'd love to have a grill. 18:32 tcohen grilled pizza is great :-D 18:32 jcamins I grilled hamburger buns once when visiting a friend, though. 18:31 jcamins We don't have a grill. 18:31 tcohen jcamins: have you tried like this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QP3S8Nx5ijI/T_EYHX609zI/AAAAAAAAAjw/AZAac8xeyno/s1600/pizza.jpg 18:29 jcamins magnuse: I usually use whole wheat flour, though yesterday I didn't out of pique with the whole wheat flour I've been using. 18:21 tcohen Charcoal grilled 18:19 * tcohen cooks its home made pizzas on his spit 18:19 * tcohen makes his own pizza tooooo 18:15 * magnuse wanders off to actually do it 18:15 magnuse ah, i use "wholemeal flour" according to google translate 18:14 magnuse the faster i can get it into the oven the better, it seems 18:14 magnuse i have a dough with lots of fiber in it - if i give it any time to rise it falls flat 18:10 jcamins Usually I make it after coming back late from work so I don't give it much time to proof, but yesterday Shari had to run errands after I got home, so it had time to rise. 18:10 jcamins magnuse: I made some awesome pizza yesterday. 18:10 * magnuse convinces himself to start making pizza 18:07 tcohen jeff, the problem seems to be getting jasper server to run out of the box with whatever Koha needs to use it. It could be a nice enhancement for vendors to offer clients 18:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #1583 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1581 1 day 0 hr ago) 18:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11192 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Fix two definitions in ccl.properties 18:01 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11192: (follow-up) fix a little typo 18:01 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11192: Fix lf and ff07-02 definition in ccl.properties 18:01 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1582: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 23 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1582/ 18:00 jcamins oleonard: yeah, what a memorial: "Not as important as someone considered so unimportant as to not have her own name." 17:59 oleonard I'll bet Anton Günther II would be mad to hear that his consort made more of herself than he did 17:58 jcamins Seemingly. 17:58 jcamins There's no authority for Anton Günther himself. 17:57 jcamins Wow, what a heading: ‎‡a Augusta Dorothea,†‎‡c Princess, consort of Anton Günther II, Prince of Schwarzburg-Sondershausen,†‡d 1666-1751†17:56 jeff Works very well for most users, though. I make no claims of its suitability either way for Koha. 17:56 jeff And just to be clear, I think JasperReports is a great option for reporting, and JasperReports Server is a handy tool for staff to use for self-service reports against a wide array of sources. I just find myself staring at a Java stacktrace and dealing with Java more often than I like. 17:55 jcamins tcohen: it seems counter-intuitive, but there are actually entire conferences devoted to describing games. 17:54 tcohen interesting pov jcamins 17:53 jcamins jeff: it turns out that if you don't want to hard code every aspect of the game, you have a problem. 17:52 jcamins jeff: that was my original plan, but it's gotten wildly out of hand. 17:52 jeff because oddly enough, that was something that came up in brief conversation last night. :P 17:51 jeff does "taking an existing card game and defining a new variant/expansion based on a programming language" count? 17:48 jcamins jeff: and then there are the people who when faced with the desire to play a card game say "I know, I'll just define a new language for defining card games." 17:48 jeff We use JasperReports Server here to report against statistics databases and Evergreen. 17:47 jeff (i kid, i kid!) 17:47 jeff "Some people, when faced with a reporting problem, think 'I know, I'll use JasperReports!'. Now you have Java." 17:42 reiveune bye 17:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, Signed Off , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF 17:37 tcohen bug 8375, we should be using something like jasper reports 17:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11066 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, joy, Pushed to Master , Export Citations not RDA compatible 17:26 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11066: (follow-up) add regression test 17:26 jenkins_koha * Joy Nelson: Bug 11066: make RIS and Bibtex exports RDA compatible 17:26 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #292: UNSTABLE in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/292/ 17:25 tcohen ashimema: INDEXER_DAEMON needs a daemon, not a command 17:04 cait thx 17:04 talljoy cait just got your message on 2499 i will take a look 17:03 talljoy later tell cait just got your message on 2499 i will take a look 17:02 talljoy good mid-morning #koha 16:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #292 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:27 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11192 normal, P5 - low, ---, mathsabypro, Pushed to Master , Fix two definitions in ccl.properties 16:27 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11192: (follow-up) fix a little typo 16:27 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11192: Fix lf and ff07-02 definition in ccl.properties 16:27 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #291: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/291/ 16:25 cait bye all :) 16:21 ashimema ack.. too many 'indexer' mentions.. I had my head wrapped around this stuff.. or at least I thought I had.. yes, I have tested the koha-indexer script.. with tamil enabled.. works nicely.. just reading it to see if/what would need to change to get it working nicely with rebuild_zebra (or rather koha-rebuild-zebra) 16:18 ashimema you think koha-indexer needs refactoring or rebuild_zebra.pl then.. 16:17 ashimema just reading it now.. 16:14 tcohen it is called from the init script 16:13 tcohen koha-indexer --help 16:13 tcohen you should test it upon signing 16:13 tcohen that has several switches 16:13 tcohen koha-indexer is a helper script for packages 16:11 ashimema koha-indexer script.. sorry you lost me slighlty there. 16:10 ashimema rebuild_zebra has needed a good re-factoring (read re-writing from scratch) for a while.. I think you explained the whole history fo those bugs to me at some point.. shame an internal one didn't get through before tamil came on the scene. 16:09 cait ashimema++ 16:08 tcohen ashimema: i meant the koha-indexer script 16:04 tcohen the question would be if there's something tamil's-specific that would prevent rebuild_zebra to be daemonized 16:04 tcohen (those introduced by 8773) 16:03 tcohen anyway, the koha-*-indexer scripts all set the relevant environment variables 16:03 tcohen i belive we need to refactor the rebuild_zebra script soon 16:03 tcohen it does 16:02 ashimema Works perfectly with the tamil indexer already :) 16:02 ashimema tcohen: cheers.. I'll have a play.. very very close to signing off on qa for it now.. it's been a long time coming (sorry for that).. but i had to learn rather allot on the way to it.. 16:00 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11066: (follow-up) add regression test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f90a4fb27ca06bbe39174b555f96445682a0c28> / Bug 11066: make RIS and Bibtex exports RDA compatible <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=12feed267c84e7e68aacc988aed70af93a5a4f61> 16:00 tcohen INDEXER_DAEMON="koha-index-daemon" 15:59 tcohen ashimema: /etc/default/koha-common 15:59 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup 15:59 ashimema tcohen: bug 8773, how would one go about using a different indexing daemon with it? I assume it's just replace one of the config variables with the command to run another indexer... now that daemon mode is available in rebuild_zebra.pl I'd love to see if this patch can also support it. 15:57 gmcharlt oleonard: or, level 3 strikes again! 15:56 oleonard RDA: "Follow these rules! Or don't. Whatever." 15:56 oleonard cait: Luckily RDA also says that all cataloging decisions are left to the discretion of the cataloger. 15:55 cait can't see germany adopting that rule :) 15:55 cait oleonard: it hink it's a question of interpretation maybe? 15:55 wahanui oleonard: huh? 15:55 oleonard wahanui: I'm picking "bad" in this case 15:55 wahanui i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 15:55 cait interesting 15:54 cait hm 15:54 oleonard RDA rules say that the cover of the book is the definitive reference for title, including case. 15:52 * cait has some doubts 15:52 cait oleonard: and all caps is rda? 15:51 kivilahtio have a nice weekend! 15:44 oleonard Looks like OCLC's starting to do more and more RDA cataloging. Some records from OverDrive are NOW IN ALL CAPS. 15:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11192: (follow-up) fix a little typo <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=211acdd30b000af33f1bb70b33356b8ac945f451> / Bug 11192: Fix lf and ff07-02 definition in ccl.properties <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a032b0a5cd73c9a67bab130c183751309fa95c6e> 15:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #1582 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 15:38 tcohen you might just test and see how bad it is 15:37 kivilahtio our investement should cover us pretty well :) 15:37 kivilahtio but I did some two years ago 15:37 kivilahtio there is no coparison benchmark 15:37 kivilahtio tcohen: It is pretty hard to make preformance tests as we dont have any data from our current ILS 15:37 tcohen i'm not aware of that, sorry 15:36 kivilahtio tcohen: I am mostly worried about how Zebra deals with caching, and can you preload the zebra to RAM on startup? 15:35 tcohen maybe is not a bad idea to have the ssd drives, but it will depend on the load/size of your setup 15:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #291 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:35 tcohen kivilahtio: you should make some performance tests before investing i guess 15:31 kivilahtio And we have them mirrored, so duh 15:30 kivilahtio 200GB 15:30 kivilahtio SSD's cost like 2000$ a piece so I am not sure should we buy them 15:30 tcohen but, we use lots of caching and RAM :-D 15:30 kivilahtio tcohen: OK 15:30 tcohen so we have latency 15:29 tcohen (SCSI-over-Ethernet) 15:29 tcohen oh, i have no experience with SSD in servers, we have several storage servers (with and without SSD) but we use them through iSCSI 15:29 kivilahtio with libvirt+KVM I noticed the IO to be somewhat slower 15:28 kivilahtio but I can just give the Zebra indexer native access to SSD's 15:28 kivilahtio tcohen: ok, thanks! I'll stick to KVM+libvirt then. But I think i notice it esp with SSD's 15:28 tcohen you wont' notice it 15:28 tcohen the overhead is not something to worry about 15:28 kivilahtio tcohen: yeah, that is pretty awesome 15:28 tcohen virtualization will give you flexibility 15:27 kivilahtio but then again virtualization adds overhead and I have no idea which one is better 15:27 kivilahtio tho we have 2x4 cores, but wouldnt want to waste hardware on inefficiency 15:27 tcohen that's correct kivilahtio 15:26 kivilahtio tcohen: But I thought if there are multiple threads in Koha, then DB might have to wait for CPU time 15:26 kivilahtio tcohen: they compete for IO 15:26 kivilahtio tcohen: I thought virtualization solves that one? 15:25 tcohen they will compete anyway (in the host OS) 15:25 kivilahtio tcohen: ok 15:24 tcohen (i.e. multiple http front-ends, a single shared db) 15:24 kivilahtio tcohen: I thought they comp0ete for resources if they are under one OS 15:24 tcohen having mysql apart from the front-end server makes sense for (horizontal) scalability 15:24 kivilahtio tcohen: for us the zebra index gets pretty large, say 50GB+ 15:24 kivilahtio tcohen: but I was planning to run the zebra index from the ssd 15:23 kivilahtio tcohen: 128GB 15:23 ashimema the koha-remove script isn't completely thorough either yet is it.. 15:23 tcohen if you have spare memory you won't have problems with IO and the DB 15:23 kivilahtio shouldnt be an issue :) tho ridiculously expensive, just crazy, and our provider didnt let us use anything more affordable 15:23 kivilahtio tcohen: we got some HP brand SSD's 15:23 kivilahtio so it's not only Koha 15:22 tcohen the bottleneck is (as usual) IO 15:22 kivilahtio I am trying to grasp that 15:22 kivilahtio 300+ wow 15:22 kivilahtio tcohen: up 15:22 tcohen the only benefit I see is isolation 15:22 cait unreadable_templates-- 15:22 tcohen we virtualize everything here (300+ servers) 15:22 kivilahtio tcohen: I am just curious if there is any benefit to virtualization when using one server to host the DB and application logic(Koha) 15:21 kivilahtio tcohen: I agree, with libvirt virtualization is quite easy, but there are some optimization parts that get more complex 15:21 kivilahtio tcohen: What I am worried about is the increased overhead caused by virutalization 15:21 tcohen just a couple of commands 15:21 kivilahtio just thinking about separating db and logic 15:20 tcohen for me, vistualization is really easy 15:20 kivilahtio would make things easier for sure 15:20 cait argh = might have found it :) 15:20 kivilahtio tcohen: then again should I just skip virtualization :) 15:19 tcohen the question is if lxc is 15:19 tcohen kvm certaintly is suitable 15:19 kivilahtio I guess I should separate MariaDB and Koha to separate LXC's 15:19 cait argh. 15:19 kivilahtio we have only one serve rto run all the services on 15:19 ashimema yeah.. that's sounds about right. 15:19 kivilahtio any opinions? Which would be more suitable for Koha? 15:18 ashimema I'm generally trying to get to grips with the packaging stuff.. adding one more person to the small list of people who can reasonably thoroughly check packaging bugs. 15:18 kivilahtio do you have experience between lxc and kvm? 15:18 tcohen we just need to catch the db upgrade failure, alert the user and move on, I guess 15:17 ashimema hehe.. cheers 15:17 tcohen i'll try to do something about it 15:17 tcohen i completely forgot about that bug 15:16 ashimema awesome.. knew you were the right guy to ask 15:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8779 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , .deb upgrade fails on incomplete instance setup 15:16 tcohen bug 8779 15:15 ashimema I see.. that might make sense 15:15 tcohen so when you install, it tries to upgrade the db schema 15:15 tcohen but it hasn't got its DB initialized 15:14 tcohen that happens (usually) when you have already tried creating an instance 15:14 ashimema slightly lost now... sure it worked the first time 15:14 ashimema the apt-get then fails 15:13 ashimema for the dpkg -i piece? 15:13 ashimema tcohen: I followed the easy packaging guide.. and for quickness am trying to install the created package using the 'dpkg -i' -> 'apt-get -f install' method.. should i really get lots of lines like: Use of uninitialized value in numeric lt (<) at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl 15:10 cait k 15:07 tcohen cait: of course not, but if you bring some mate cookies, I'll put dulce de leche on them 15:06 francharb ;) 15:06 * francharb pitch a load of cookies to cait 15:06 cait tcohen: do they exist? 15:06 * druthb sends cookies, too 15:06 ashimema any packaging guru's about? 15:06 * tcohen sends mate cookies with dulce de leche 15:05 cait hard to explain because i changed something... just send cookies? 15:05 tcohen cait: what's up? 15:05 cait hmpf? :) 15:05 francharb ;) 15:05 francharb everything gonna be alright 15:05 francharb cait, breathe 15:04 cait i am gonig to scream if i can't figure out what's going wrong here soon :( 14:54 tcohen hi gmcharlt 14:54 cait thx jcamins 14:54 cait lol 14:54 * jcamins heads into the city, having helped cait on her quest for better fried food. 14:53 oleonard ebegin: You might have to take off your mittens 14:52 ebegin pffff... just write a line for debug purpose and I wrote 'warm' instead of 'warn' :) 14:51 jcamins cait: I always add oregano. 14:50 ebegin warmer that yesterday's -27C :) 14:50 cait *sigh* 14:49 * cait changed something int he breadcrumbs and now they won't work 14:49 cait gr. 14:49 oleonard I had a feeling you could top mine ebegin 14:49 ebegin :( 14:48 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -23.0°C (9:00 AM EST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 54%. Dew Point: -30.0°C. Windchill: -30.0°C. Pressure: 30.28 in 1025 hPa (Rising). 14:48 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec 14:48 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Whitlind Woods, Athens, Ohio is -12.7°C (9:40 AM EST on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -13.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Rising). 14:48 oleonard @wunder 45701 14:43 ebegin good morning 14:43 francharb pouette 14:15 bgallagher Alright night night all 14:09 magnuse Alfred Russel Wallace seems to have been quite fond of it though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian#Flavour_and_odour 14:08 magnuse lol 14:07 bgallagher Two of the hotels we stayed at had it listed that you could not bring it in to the hotel 14:07 magnuse "the durian is distinctive for its large size, strong odour, and formidable thorn-covered husk" 14:06 oleonard Yeah I was warned against that one 14:06 bgallagher Yes that is the smelly one 14:06 magnuse is that the smelly one? 14:06 bgallagher Happy new year cait 14:06 bgallagher oleonard: Not durarian (spelling?) though 14:05 kivilahtio especially rambutans 14:05 oleonard bgallagher: I hope you're getting some fresh fruit too. Mangosteens, longans, rambutans, etc. 14:05 cait happy new year bgallagher :) 14:02 bgallagher Haha 14:02 oleonard (okay maybe not the shark fin part) 14:02 oleonard bgallagher: If I didn't know where you were right now I might think you were eating with hobos 14:01 magnuse hiya tcohen and bgallagher 14:01 tcohen hi magnuse ! 14:01 bgallagher Well I ate deep fried pigeon, shark fin, and goose flipper tonight 13:45 kmkale sandboxes is fantastic for testing! Kudos #koha 13:42 kmkale I'm sure it can be adopted. Looks really great! 13:42 magnuse and if we all make sure we get our names on there every month, great things will happen! :-) 13:41 magnuse that's true 13:41 cait but I can see your point :) 13:41 cait magnuse: but it's all our custom status and such, so it would take work to modify i guess 13:41 magnuse it's mostly data from bugzilla, isn't it? i can imagine other projects finding something like that useful 13:40 cait kmkale: it's probably quite specific to koha tho 13:39 magnuse hiya kmkale! 13:39 kmkale hi magnuse :-) 13:39 kmkale yup thats a piece of work much worth spinning off as a project on its own 13:39 magnuse kivilahtio: https://gitorious.org/koha-dashboard 13:38 cait and quite sure there is a git repo somewhere 13:38 cait i think it pulls data from different sources 13:38 kivilahtio I'm pretty sure it's not built on Jira :) 13:38 kmkale reading about sandboxes. Fascinating!! 13:38 kivilahtio I wonder how it is made 13:37 kivilahtio dashboard is cool! 13:37 kmkale :-) 13:37 druthb hi, kmkale. :) 13:37 kmkale hi druthb 13:37 kmkale hey cait 13:36 cait happy new year kmkale and oleonard 13:28 kmkale Wow!! rangi++ 13:26 tcohen rangi's 13:26 kmkale is it based on some FOSS? or is it koha community creation? 13:25 kmkale http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ looks great 13:23 kmkale Hi oleonard 13:23 oleonard And to you too kmkale 13:19 kmkale Happy new year #koha 13:15 oleonard Hi #koha 12:50 kivilahtio gday francharb! 12:48 francharb Hello #koha 12:41 ashimema hmm... motd is a bit out of date.. we have 3.14.01 now ;) 12:34 cait i am hoping :) 12:33 kivilahtio cait: And have a awesome new year 12:33 kivilahtio cait: Thanks for your help! 12:32 cait it should not :) 12:32 kivilahtio cait: Shouldn't happen very often 12:32 kivilahtio cait: hmm, I feel this wont be much of an issue 12:31 cait or 'run the script for another date' 12:31 cait it's hard to recreate them the other day 12:31 cait what i tmeans is that if you miss to create your ovedues on one day for whatever reason 12:30 cait i guess the packages do it that way 12:30 kivilahtio cait: I should read more thoroughyl :( 12:30 kivilahtio This could be circumvented by using the /etc/cron.daily/ -folder? 12:30 kivilahtio cait: "Add the --triggered option for daily cron, at the risk of no notice being generated if the cron fails to run on time." 12:28 cait then it will follow the notice triggers set in the interface, that#s how we do it 12:27 cait kivilahtio: look into the -t option 12:26 kivilahtio ofc! 12:26 tcohen Yes! heh 12:26 kivilahtio how do you deal with overdue_notices.pl? If you run it nightly, I get the same overdue email sent every day? 12:26 tcohen will this be a great year for Koha? 12:25 kivilahtio good day tcohen! 12:25 cait hi tcohen 12:25 tcohen morning #koha! 12:08 cait at least it looks like it's working now :) 12:07 cait XSLT.pm 12:05 cait ah i think i know 12:01 * cait might be just a bit confused right now 12:01 cait ok... so um. what would the path be relativ to then? 12:00 ashimema but yeah.. we jsut stick them next to the defaults 12:00 ashimema you can host them pretty much anywhere you like ;) 12:00 ashimema yeah, you can use relative paths.. 11:58 cait the xslt are all in the same directory as the standard xslt 11:57 cait trying for the first time right now 11:57 cait ashimema: doyou know if it takes a relativ path? 11:57 cait i was thinking maybe Joubu or khall 11:57 ashimema yes we use local xslt's now.. though I'm still pondering exactly how to merge in the updates from the changing default into our custom ones. 11:57 cait ashimema: i agree with you - but sadly rangi is not 11:56 ashimema is Chris on qa this release.. I think he would understand it nicely and could test it pretty quick.. it's a trivial patch really.. just gone through the loop a few times to get it perfect for packages etc.. both robin and galen have already pretty much given it their blessing. 11:55 cait ashimema: are you using external xslt btw? 11:55 cait but i agree about wanting this to go in 11:54 cait not sure i know how to make sure that it actually does what it says :( 11:54 cait i think the flock testing scared me off a bit 11:54 cait ah i see 11:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Signed Off , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds 11:51 ashimema bug 11078 11:51 ashimema sorry.. kettle boiled.. I can't mis the kettle.. it's sacroligous 11:48 cait ashimema: bug number! .) 11:42 cait which bug? :) 11:39 ashimema and am about to give it another sign-ff comment as I've now tested it with yet more variations.. (I build a package with it) 11:39 ashimema Robin has verified it should work with packages too.. I’d QA but I signed it off in a various iteration.. 11:38 ashimema there's a pretty good test plan for it I believe.. 11:38 cait the problem is, i might not know how to test it 11:37 cait which of those? 11:37 ashimema sounds fun.. 11:37 ashimema You didn't get a chance to checkout the zebra locking bug did you? I'd love to see that go in.. 11:37 cait updating it :) 11:37 cait used for manuscripts 11:37 cait we have one heavier customized koha 11:36 ashimema oh? 11:36 cait working on something that I wanted to work on all last year 11:36 cait i enjoy the quiet :) 11:35 ashimema yeah... lucky buggers :P 11:35 cait friday aftre lots of holidays... guess still a lot of people on vacation 11:35 * cait felt a little ignored :) 11:34 ashimema hi cait 11:34 ashimema tumbleweed drifts by.. 11:30 * cait waves 11:29 ashimema quiet here today 08:54 nlegrand hey #koha 08:46 cait magnuse: clear is a lie... lts of white fog today 08:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 08:43 magnuse @wunder boo 08:43 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.1°C (9:40 AM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 08:43 magnuse @wunder konstanz 08:43 magnuse bonjour reiveune 08:43 reiveune hi cait, magnuse, rangi 08:42 cait hi reiveune :) 08:37 reiveune hello 07:57 arunkumars3189 need info 07:56 wahanui niihau, arunkumars3189 07:56 arunkumars3189 hello 07:36 magnuse yeah, i thought it was kinda warm... 07:36 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:20 AM CET on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady). 07:36 magnuse @wunder boo 06:37 * magnuse waves 06:34 cait good morning #koha 05:54 dcook I guess only part of it was fixed.. 05:53 wahanui http://buikitty.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/20120202-094434.jpg 05:53 * dcook facepalm 05:53 dcook That moment when you realize that someone has already fixed something in master and you didn't realize until you've already written out a detailed bug report 05:27 dcook Bleargh...too many problems... 03:53 mtompset Have a great day, #koha! 03:48 mtompset WOW! That was a split. 03:04 dcook Maybe I'll try gmcharlt's idea of a patch series... 03:04 dcook Hmm 02:42 dcook This log viewer isn't anywhere even close to right.. 02:41 dcook eythian++ 02:33 eythian Oh, I totally forgot to check that the version numbers would be right. Good thing they are. 02:32 eythian new master packages uploading, for those on the bleeding edge. 02:14 dcook Hmm, looks like a bug in a log viewer.. 01:18 mtompset No problem, I figure a reminder randomly can't hurt. Sometimes, people need a break from the piles of things thrown at them. :) 01:15 mtompset I'm in the midst of cleaning up branches in my git repo. 01:15 dcook I'd love for you to sign it off, but I'm working on local stuff atm. 01:15 mtompset I'd love to sign it off. ;) 01:15 dcook Probably even. 01:14 dcook Mmm, maybe 01:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10811 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Add a 999$c record matching rule to the MARC21 defaults 01:14 mtompset Are you ever going to get back to bug 10811? 01:14 dcook Hmm? 01:14 mtompset dcook: *ping* 01:13 eythian NO worries. 01:05 vinz3g Gracias! 01:05 vinz3g Thanks 01:00 eythian I would recommend that. 01:00 vinz3g ok, I think you're right, and it's better to have a dedicated vps koha 00:57 eythian you probably can, but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets problematic in parts. 00:55 vinz3g ok, ok, okay, it's just trying to hold my VPS and have seen full Googling, you may do so, however there is not much documentation about it ... 00:53 eythian Most people don't tend to use Koha with panel things, so far as I know. 00:52 vinz3g hi, good afternoon 00:51 eythian afternoon 00:51 eythian no wait 00:51 eythian good morning. 00:51 vinz3g good night, I wonder if anyone has experience in installing koha vhosts? using some panel, for example ZPanel or cpanel? 00:34 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFwGdKA5veU&noredirect=1 <-- we are kinda used to this weather now, this was 2 days ago 00:26 eythian Now you usually have a few plants and use it to heat the rest of the house :) 00:25 eythian so that in cold old ~16th century England you could have tropical fruits growing to impress your guests when they visit. 00:25 eythian traditionally you'd have plants in it. 00:25 rambutan :) 00:24 rambutan close counts 00:23 eythian whereas I'd consider a sunroom a smallish room with big windows. 00:23 eythian but usually made totally out of glass and attached to a house. 00:23 eythian in essence, yes 00:23 eythian sorta 00:22 rambutan what's a conservatory? a sun room maybe? 00:21 rangi "What is left to blow down in Wellington has already blown down in the past several months" 00:21 rambutan looks like the lamp post was rotten at the bottom anyway 00:10 rangi http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9573316/Damaging-winds-to-whip-the-country 00:08 eythian http://zork.net/~sneakums/orly.png