Time Nick Message 00:33 pianohacker hi all 00:33 dcook heya pianohacker :) 00:34 pianohacker hey dcook 00:34 pianohacker happy 2014! 00:35 dcook Thanks. Happy NY to you too! 00:41 pianohacker I'm in washington, not new york... 00:42 pianohacker seriously, canadiense, get it together 00:44 dcook :p 00:44 dcook What are you doing in Washington? 00:45 pianohacker Visiting gf's family. Quite nice here, if rather wet and cold 00:50 dcook I am enjoying the heat and dryness down here, although a whiteless Christmas was a bit odd. 00:50 dcook Are you along the coast? I suppose they wouldn't have much snow either. 00:51 pianohacker Yup, near Seattle. No snow, just fog and rain. I forget you're in the middle of summer :) 00:52 dcook Fog and rain don't sound too bad. I'm sure I would kill for them over the next month or two. 00:52 dcook I think I'm just getting over some sunburn :p 00:55 pianohacker so weird to think about. Was below zero for a good week in colorado a month ago... 00:56 pianohacker gotta head out, family is coming to visit. Good to see you dcook, take it easy! 03:03 mtompset Happy New Year, dcook. 03:03 mtompset Happy New Year, cait-m__ :) 03:04 mtompset Well, enough greetings. Must get ready for the 9:30am realities tomorrow. 03:04 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 05:32 dcook Eeep. When we're sending in template patches for the OPAC, are we sending in patches for prog, ccsr, and bootstrap? 05:54 dcook Whoa, when did 4:54 happen? 06:02 dcook Good first day back. Tootles, #koha. 06:49 * magnuse waves "happy new year" to #koha 06:50 * cait wishes #koha a happy new year too :) 06:54 magnuse yay! 06:57 * magnuse thinks 2014 will be an interesting year 07:17 cait that's for sure 07:17 cait :) 07:17 cait ok, time to go to work 07:40 reiveune hello 07:40 wahanui kai ora, reiveune 07:51 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:52 reiveune salut magnuse, cait, rangi :) 07:52 cait good morning reiveune 07:54 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 07:56 sophie_m hello magnuse, happy new year :-) 07:57 magnuse happy new year to you too sophie_m 08:02 cait happy new year! 08:39 nlegrand hey #koha and happy new year! 08:39 cait happy new year nlegrand 08:40 paul_p happy new year everyone ! 08:41 cait happy new year paul_p 08:41 paul_p full of joy, hacking and fun. Discussions, decisions and actions. Love and peace. 08:41 paul_p cait was your "switch to 2014" a good nice time ? Mine was really perfect : 10 friends at home, was a marvelous time, really ! 08:42 cait visited friends, it was very nice 08:42 paul_p ( eated a lot of very very good things: everyone came with something to share ) 08:43 paul_p (and we watched some photos from Mauritius, were 2 of us just came back from wedding trip. and we song, one of us playing guitar) 08:43 paul_p really a wonderful time. 08:52 magnuse sounds like a good start to a new year! 09:22 magnuse hei petter 09:23 cait hi petter and happy new year 09:23 magnuse godt nyttår! 09:24 petter god nyttår/happy newyear everybody! 09:24 petter 2014 is gonna be great 09:24 magnuse yup! 09:24 petter I can feel it allready 09:24 cait :) 10:54 magnuse hiya ashimema 10:55 ashimema Hi magnuse 11:00 cait happy new year ashimema 11:00 ashimema Happy new yes cait.. hope you all had a good one 11:01 ashimema Happy new year cait.. hope you all had a good one 11:04 cait 25mins until pizza 11:17 magnuse pizza?!? 11:17 wahanui i guess pizza is in the oven. 11:17 magnuse yay! 11:20 cait monday pizza! 11:27 * magnuse wonders who kb2qzv is/was 11:27 * magnuse chides himself for not reaching his "100 patches in koha before 2013-12-31" goal 11:47 ashimema that's a good new years resolution magnuse.. I may follow suit with a "QA's done per month" target for myself.. 11:47 ashimema now to work out what a realistic goal is for that ;) 11:48 ashimema the last one I decided to do is taking me forever to battle with and get everything tested.. 11:48 * ashimema thinks he needs to choose some easier patches for the next round 11:48 kivilahtio Hi there! And happy new year! 11:49 kivilahtio I hope it will the best so far 11:50 kivilahtio We got a babyfood maker as a christmas gift ;) I guess we need a baby first... 11:50 kivilahtio anyway. 11:50 kivilahtio Does anyone have a self check-in machine in their libraries? 11:50 kivilahtio currently looking into how to instruct the check-in machine to sort the returned material 11:51 kivilahtio maybe will have to add some directives to the SIPconfig.xml 11:51 kivilahtio or maybe just sort based on the home location 12:00 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 12:01 kivilahtio hi mtompset 12:01 mtompset Greetings, kivilahtio! Happy New Year. :) 12:04 kivilahtio mtompset: you too, did you fire any rockets? 12:04 kivilahtio or missiles? 12:05 mtompset No. That would require affording fireworks. 12:05 mtompset My budget is rather tight, and I fear it could get even tighter soon. 12:05 kivilahtio I understand 12:05 kivilahtio I hope things get better 12:05 kivilahtio I guess there is a growing demand for Koha techies 12:06 kivilahtio globally 12:51 oleonard Happy New Year #koha 12:52 cait happy new year oleonard :) 12:56 oleonard I hope you had a nice holiday cait 12:59 cait i had thx, hope you had too :) 13:00 oleonard Yes. It's been a while since I had a break where I thought so little about work 13:00 dbs magnuse: I'm interested to hear more about your linked data plans for Koha; will keep an eye on your blog / mailing list accordingly :) 13:00 francharb Morning #koha 13:00 cait hi francharb and happy new year! 13:01 francharb Hello cait and happy new year to you too!! 13:01 francharb :) 13:01 cait oleonard: same for me i think 13:03 oleonard Only 410 unread emails! But 267 of those are from Bugzilla. 13:16 mtompset Happy New Year, oleonard cait dbs francharb 13:16 mtompset cait: I think I found that 0 0 error you were talking about on the basket group stuff. :) 13:17 mtompset It's because the SQL results don't include invoiceprice in the GetBasketsByBasketgroup function. 13:20 cait the whole way this works is wrong with me 13:20 cait we shouldn#t be adding spaces to a pl file really, but it should be n the template 13:20 cait but it's a first patch, so I think it's ok 13:21 cait but i didn't really want to dig deeper there and find more things like this :) 13:34 magnuse dbs: cool! i only hope i can find some time to work on it a bit 13:38 dbs magnuse: I would be happy to work with you; over in #evergreen I have a branch to add structured data for library branch info (location, hours, contact info, etc) for anything that's already in Evergreen's database schema 13:39 magnuse dbs: cool, i'll keep that in mind :-) 13:39 dbs I had started trying to install the Koha database schema but that's when I ran into the PostgreSQL schema no longer being supported :) -- happy to see that DBIx::Class may help resurrect support in 3.16! 13:39 magnuse dbic++ 13:39 magnuse well, it will take some time before all of Koha uses dbic, i guess... 13:41 magnuse druthb! 13:41 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. 13:46 druthb magnuse! 13:46 wahanui well, magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. 13:46 druthb o/ 13:47 druthb @wunder 77098 13:47 huginn druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 5.1°C (7:47 AM CST on January 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -0.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 PM CST this afternoon... 13:47 druthb @wunder boo 13:47 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (2:20 PM CET on January 02, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 13:48 magnuse close! 13:48 druthb mhm. Very windy here, close to 50 kph gusts, so it *feels* positively frigid. 13:49 druthb hm. I wonder… 13:49 oleonard @wunder 45701 13:49 druthb @wunder Greenway Plaza 13:49 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is 0.6°C (8:00 AM EST on January 02, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.84 in 1010 hPa (Rising). Winter Weather Advisory in effect until 1 am EST Friday... 13:49 huginn druthb: Error: No such location could be found. 13:49 druthb bah 13:50 oleonard Winter Weather Advisory in effect here because there is a tiny dusting of melting snow on the ground 13:53 dbs @wunder p3e2c6 13:53 huginn dbs: The current temperature in Val Therese, Greater Sudbury, Ontario is -38.9°C (8:40 AM EST on January 02, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -42.0°C. Windchill: -39.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1032 hPa (Steady). 13:56 druthb BRR! 13:56 druthb That is wicked cold! 13:56 dbs magnuse: back to structured / linked data; exposing the structured data for each branch via separate URLs enables me to link the items from the record details page to their respective libraries. I'm hoping to do that for Koha, too... 13:56 * dbs will probably skip cross-country skiing for another day :) 13:56 magnuse that is cold! 13:56 druthb srsly 13:57 magnuse dbs: cool! how do you go about "exposing the structured data"? 13:58 dbs magnuse: just a given page (e.g. http://hostname/eg/opac/library/branch1) with the corresponding http://schema.org/Library properties, including OpeningHoursSpecification, etc 13:59 magnuse ah, cool 13:59 dbs magnuse: not sure if Koha already has something like that publicly visible for branches 13:59 magnuse no, don't think so 13:59 dbs Not as cool as your SPARQL endpoint goals :) 13:59 magnuse but it could be a nice thing to have! 14:00 magnuse well, add some content negotiation to your pages and bob's your uncle ;-) 14:01 dbs magnuse: yeah, it seems like a common missing piece for an integrated library system - you dump all of your branch info into the system for purposes of calculating fines, etc, but then manually recode it (usually with conflicting info) on separate web pages 14:03 * oleonard attaches the other end of a bungee cord to barton 14:04 barton IP address conflict :-/ 14:04 barton stupid router. 14:04 * druthb plucks the taut bungee, making funny "bwong" noises with it. 14:05 barton If it had been been a slinkey, at least I could have gotten some neat 'ging ging ging' noises out of it... 14:06 * barton considers IP-over-slinkey. 14:06 magnuse dbs: yeah, and koha can store all sorts of adress info etc about libraries 14:07 druthb Ham radio operators have been using slinkys for impromptu radio antennae for years. They're quite decent, if you can get 'em tuned up right. 14:07 oleonard ...and if you are sure to get the metal kind :P 14:08 druthb :P yes. 14:08 bgallagher Hey there y'all - from Phuket 14:08 * oleonard isn't sure what the point of the plastic ones is 14:08 druthb Hi, bgallagher. :) 14:08 oleonard Hey bgallagher! Where you staying? 14:09 bgallagher Happy new year druthb 14:09 druthb me either, oleonard. When I was a kid, they didn't make too many of the plastic ones—metal were the ones you usually found. 14:09 bgallagher Let's see if I can spell it - nai harn 14:09 bgallagher Close to raiwai beach 14:11 oleonard I hope it's as nice as Google Images says it is :) 14:11 oleonard bgallagher: Are you going anywhere else in Thailand? 14:11 bgallagher Tomorrow we fly to Angkor wat in Cambodia 14:14 bgallagher oleonard: It's really amazing 14:14 oleonard bgallagher: I can't remember if we talked about it at KohaCon, but my wife and eldest daughter and I spent about a week in Thailand summer before last. We loved it. 14:15 barton yes bgallagher, oleonard is really amazing. 14:15 oleonard :p 14:15 bgallagher ;) 14:15 bgallagher Yes Owen we did talk about it 14:16 oleonard We should have done Angkor Wat instead of Bangkok 14:18 bgallagher Night night all 14:19 oleonard have fun bgallagher 14:22 * magnuse does not anvy bag. no, no. not at all. really. 14:22 magnuse s/anvy/envy/ 14:23 oleonard @wunder Phuket 14:23 huginn oleonard: The current temperature in Phuket, Thailand is 25.0°C (9:00 PM ICT on January 02, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 14:29 magnuse comfy! 14:29 magnuse @wunder las palmas 14:29 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 14:29 magnuse @wunder las palmas, spain 14:29 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 14:45 magnuse @wunder ILASPALM3 14:45 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. 14:46 oleonard http://xkcd.com/1309/ 14:47 jcamins oleonard: I actually filed a bug report with Facebook yesterday about the links in their footer. 14:47 jcamins They're impossible to click. 14:47 oleonard Facebook has a footer? 14:47 jcamins Yeah, but good luck clicking on any of the links in it. 14:52 oleonard jcamins: It's just cruel to have a link in the footer that says "cookies" but you can never click it 14:55 druthb A sci-fi show some years ago had a button on the show's web page "Naked pictures of cast"…if you attempted to hover it, it would *move* to a different part of the page. Totally unclickable. 14:55 jcamins oleonard: if you're fast enough to click it, they'll ship you a plate of cookies. 14:56 druthb Facebook's cookies would not be as good as your cookies, jcamins. 14:56 oleonard That was my assumption based on industry standards 15:10 cait @wunder Konstanz 15:10 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0°C (4:00 PM CET on January 02, 2014). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Rising). 15:16 gmcharlt the annual clearing of the karma has occurred 15:16 gmcharlt marcelr++ # the commit message on bug 11398 15:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11398 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , A typo occurred with occured 15:17 druthb hi, cait! :) 15:17 druthb @karma 15:17 huginn druthb: Highest karma: "marcelr" (1). Lowest karma: "marcelr" (1). 15:18 druthb whoa. 15:18 oleonard I guess the karma reset happened eh? 15:18 gmcharlt yep 15:18 oleonard Oh yeah, read back oleonard 15:19 * oleonard has the attention span of a goldfish 15:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #288 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11398: A typo occurred with occured <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9921228f2a12de47d8e1fc85e936562c20a7abe4> 15:24 jenkins_koha Starting build #1580 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 15:30 cait happy new year gmcharlt :) 15:30 gmcharlt cait: and to you! :) 15:31 cait :) 15:37 cait hmm 15:37 cait cataloguing question.. how to correctly catalog a publication date in 008 that is < 1000 15:37 cait http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008a.html 15:37 cait I can't really findan example :( 15:37 gmcharlt zero-pad the date, e.g., 0916 15:38 cait gmcharlt: do you maybe have a reference for that somewhere? 15:40 gmcharlt cait: yes -- grep for "dates of the first millennium" in the LC page 15:40 cait argh must have overread it 15:40 cait found the bc dates but not those 15:43 cait gmcharlt: the manuscript library we have has run into problems with date range search - i just filed bug 11469 for the first part of the problem, but I think i also have t check the data now :) 15:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11469 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Publication date range assumes that years must always be 4 digits 15:46 cait gmcharlt++ thx 15:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9654: add space between amount and currency symbol in basket group display <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4daf32d1d4fdadbf677d7520e22b0a463b5ab8f> 16:01 rambutan @wunder 64507 16:01 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -13.8°C (10:01 AM CST on January 02, 2014). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.52 in 1033 hPa (Rising). Wind Chill Advisory in effect until 9 am CST this morning... 16:02 rambutan don't forget the 9" of snow on the ground either huginn 16:14 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #288: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/288/ 16:14 jenkins_koha Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11398: A typo occurred with occured 16:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11398 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , A typo occurred with occured 16:20 jenkins_koha Starting build #289 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:37 rambutan @later tell rangi http://www.nzaht.org/AHT/antarctic-photos/ 16:37 huginn rambutan: The operation succeeded. 16:38 rambutan @later tell rangi Any personal knowledge of this project? Site looks like mostly custom code. 16:38 huginn rambutan: The operation succeeded. 16:45 druthb @wunder 77098 16:45 huginn druthb: The current temperature in WEST UNIVERSITY, HOUSTON, Texas is 7.2°C (10:44 AM CST on January 02, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising). Wind Advisory in effect until 3 PM CST this afternoon... 16:45 * druthb tries to make rambutan jealous 16:46 * druthb wore a light fleece jacket to work today. 16:46 rambutan Imma gonna send you a dump truck full of snow 16:46 druthb Wouldn't last long around here. Some enterprising immigrant would make snowcones, and make a zillion bucks off of that one dumptruck of snow. 16:46 druthb It's how we roll in H-town. 16:49 rambutan I miss the palm tree I had in my yard in San Antonio 16:50 * ebegin wishes palm tree could grow here 16:50 ebegin @wunder montreal canada 16:50 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -26.0°C (11:00 AM EST on January 02, 2014). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -31.0°C. Windchill: -39.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Falling). 16:50 ebegin -26 :( 16:50 oleonard Ouch! 16:50 rambutan gee, that's colder than here 16:51 rambutan maybe it would be possible to graft a pine tree onto a palm tree root and have a northern palm? 16:51 ebegin it is really cold and it feels even colder 16:52 * druthb does not miss that. Nope nope nope 16:54 druthb someone asked me if I wanted to move back to DC. I remember standing outside waiting for a bus in -20C windchill a little too well for that, thankee. 16:55 jcamins druthb: on the other hand, it only took a single snowflake to give you a snow-week. 16:55 druthb yesssss.... 16:56 druthb In DC, the magic number is 8. As in "8 inches of snow." Because that is the height of the third-rail on the Metro. Once the snow gets that deep, they have to take extraordinary measures to keep the third rail clear, or shut the system down. 16:57 jcamins druthb: other people have reported DC shutting down with eight flakes of snow. 16:57 druthb for drivers, yes. The Beltway is a madhouse on clear dry days. 16:57 druthb Non-drivers are a bit more resilient. 16:58 jcamins Ah. 16:59 druthb There's a possibly-apocryphal story of a DC government department that, when it snowed, didn't recommend staying in, but said, "take the Metro." As it was only a two-block walk from the nearest station, this was actually a reasonable way to keep things up and running. 17:00 jcamins druthb: that sounds entirely reasonable to me. 17:02 druthb I think so too. My old office in DC was so far out in the weeds it took a 25-minute bus ride to the nearest Metro stop; when the weather got bad, the office was a graveyard. (Their new location is, in fact, a short *walk* from my old apartment complex there.) 17:12 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #289: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/289/ 17:12 jenkins_koha Samuel Crosby: Bug 9654: add space between amount and currency symbol in basket group display 17:12 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9654 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Missing space between amount and currency symbol in basket groups 17:12 francharb anyone experienced problem with facets lately? 17:13 francharb Here, with 3.14 17:13 francharb and bootstrap on 17:13 francharb facets doesnt work 17:13 francharb but it works with prog template 17:14 francharb itemtype facet shows more resutls than it should 17:14 francharb any suggestion? 17:14 francharb I havent found a bug report on bugzilla... 17:15 cait francharb: there is a patch 17:15 francharb great 17:15 cait francharb: i know it's in master, not sure if fridolin has pushed it yet 17:15 cait it's quite a simple fix if you need it urgently 17:16 cait bug 11277 17:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11277 major, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap theme: error in link for showing all facets 17:16 francharb thanks! 17:16 cait hm not sure about the itmetypes tho 17:16 cait you are aware that item related facets are not good when combining 2 of them? 17:16 cait say you search by branch and by itemtype 17:17 cait your search will include all records, that have items at branch x and at least one item with itemtype y 17:17 francharb oh yes 17:17 cait so it also includes records where there is no item y at x 17:17 francharb :) 17:17 cait :) 17:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #290 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1580: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1580/ 17:32 jenkins_koha Marcel de Rooy: Bug 11398: A typo occurred with occured 17:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11398 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , A typo occurred with occured 17:39 jenkins_koha Starting build #1581 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1579 2 days 22 hr ago) 18:07 oleonard Guided report module choices are not translated. cait are you aware of a bug report for that? 18:09 cait hm 18:09 cait there might be an omnibus 18:09 cait but not sure 18:10 cait it's not very well translatable 18:10 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #290: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/290/ 18:10 cait i mean there are more problems 18:42 rangi rambutan: nope no knowledge and yeah looks all custom 18:43 mtompset YAY! down another pound. 19:04 druthb yay! 19:40 rambutan rangi: ack 19:40 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:40 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.9°C (8:40 PM CET on January 02, 2014). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 19:40 jenkins_koha Yippee, build fixed! 19:40 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 19:40 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1581: FIXED in 2 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1581/ 19:40 jenkins_koha Samuel Crosby: Bug 9654: add space between amount and currency symbol in basket group display 19:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9654 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Missing space between amount and currency symbol in basket groups 19:46 cait gmcharlt: i think we got a test problem :( 19:47 cait or i am just confused. Bookseller.t is failing for me... thought it was the last patch but now I think it wasn't... never mind 19:47 gmcharlt cait: let's see the error you're getting; Bookseller.t is currently working for me, but it's entirely possible that it's making an unwarranted assumption 19:48 cait i will paste it sec 19:48 cait aah i see 19:48 cait rangi did a patch for it - sorry for causing confusion 19:48 cait maybe a bit too tired for this 19:49 gmcharlt ah, no worries 19:49 cait bug 11457 19:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11457 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Signed Off , t/db_dependent/Bookseller.t can fail when subscription table is not empty 19:49 cait especially embarassing since i filed and tested it... 19:49 cait i better go and brush my teeth :) 19:50 gmcharlt sweet dreams, cait :) 19:50 cait thx :) 19:50 cait have a nice day :) 20:31 magnuse is that cait irc'ing in her sleep? 20:32 cait ? 20:32 cait why did you wake me up with the beeping? ;) 20:32 magnuse oops 20:32 cait i will go in a min, was getting some things ready for tomorrow 20:32 cait but not doing anytihng critical 20:36 druthb cait? 20:36 wahanui cait: go to bed 20:36 cait ok 20:45 oleonard Bye #koha 21:03 larryb Okay, I need to get some lunch. biab 21:34 eythian hi 21:34 wahanui hola, eythian 22:24 rangi @wunder nzwn 22:24 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on January 03, 2014). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Falling). 22:24 rangi drizzle lol 22:24 eythian heh 22:25 eythian I'm sure the rain is going up, maybe it only counts what hits the ground. 22:25 rangi Rain, clearing evening. Gale northwest, gusts 140 km/h. 22:26 rangi http://www.metservice.com/maps-radar/maps/tasman-sea-nz 22:26 rangi theres just way too many lines on this map 22:26 * dcook is glad that he's not the only one who thinks so 22:41 dcook Mmm, while folks are around... 22:41 mtompset Actually, I think the issue with the lines is poor coloring. After all, it is hard to tell the front lines apart from the pressure area lines. 22:41 dcook What is the current plan for OPAC template changes? 22:41 dcook Do we have to make changes to prog, ccsr, and bootstrap? 22:41 rangi for master? 22:41 mtompset I thought ccsr was the last choice in the things to update. :) 22:42 dcook rangi: Yup, for master 22:42 rangi bootstrap is going to be the default in 3.16 so thats the first one to make changes for, then prog if you want 22:42 dcook Sweet. Thanks, rangi. 22:42 rangi but id check that with gmcharlt 22:42 dcook Sounds good. 22:42 gmcharlt confirmed 22:43 dcook \o/ 22:43 gmcharlt and bootstrap is the default now, btw 22:43 rangi ah thats right, for all new ones yet 22:43 dcook now? 22:43 wahanui it has been said that now is good time with holidays coming up 22:43 rangi yep 22:43 gmcharlt yes, for all new ones; it isn't a forced default for upgrade 22:44 dcook Makes sense. When did the bootstrap theme come in ? 22:44 dcook 3.14? 22:44 wahanui somebody said 3.14 was coming out in November, so anything that gets bumped shouldn't be waiting too long. 22:46 gmcharlt yes 22:49 dcook Excellent. Thanks rangi and gmcharlt :) 22:49 dcook (and oleonard, of course) 22:55 francharb happy new year for those I havent seen yewt 22:55 francharb yet 22:55 francharb and see you tomorrow 22:55 francharb ;) 22:55 jcamins rangi: I hadn't even looked at the screenshots, but I was pretty impressed when you pointed it out... he's installing proprietary software on a proprietary OS that isn't supported by anyone in the Koha community. What thought process makes this seem like a good idea? 22:55 jcamins (screenshots were OS X) 22:56 mtompset Koha is a pain to attempt to install on OpenBSD... I did try once... I gave up, before I had learned about cpan2deb. :) 22:57 jcamins Also, Happy New Year! 22:58 jcamins Hm. Redundant sentence is repetitive. No one supports any proprietary OSes with Koha. 22:58 rambutan openbsd has allegedly good security, it would be a good platform to support 22:59 jcamins rambutan: yeah, but the screenshot looked remarkably like OS X, no? 22:59 mtompset Yes, but if you can install in OpenBSD easily, then OS X should be easy enough. :) 22:59 mtompset They are family. 23:00 rambutan I couldn't tell, I even went back and looked. I've used macs, we've got a couple here, but I'm not familiar enough with them 23:00 eythian not that close 23:00 eythian especially these days 23:00 eythian (at least, that's my understanding. I've not used either in a very long time.) 23:01 jcamins eythian: no? I thought /Users was OS X-only. 23:01 rangi OSX is based on the mach kernel 23:01 mtompset By the way, are you trying to train the intern to do sign offs too? :) 23:01 rangi with bits of netbsd and freebsd 23:02 eythian OSX has a freebsd userland 23:02 rangi its not really close to openbsd at all 23:02 jcamins Yeah, but not file structure. 23:02 eythian yeah, they separated a long time ago. 23:02 eythian jcamins: that's what I'm saying, in part :) 23:02 jcamins eythian: oh, okay. I thought you were saying that it was OpenBSD. 23:02 rangi yep 23:02 eythian jcamins: no, not at all. 23:02 mtompset bug 11471 is a follow up triggered by bug 9654. 23:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11471 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Basket groups display 0 0 23:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9654 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Missing space between amount and currency symbol in basket groups 23:03 mtompset No, that was me. :) 23:03 eythian also, I think apple has made the userland a bit more stupid than it probably is in any BSD, just due to mild neglect. 23:03 eythian I somewhat regularly hear about dumb little bugs in it. 23:03 rangi i dont think it took any of openbsd, just stuff from free and net 23:03 jcamins Myshkin is having a sneezing attack. It's extraordinary. 23:03 jcamins eythian: oh god yes. So many bugs. 23:03 rangi and made darwin, which is pretty much totally reworked by now 23:03 jcamins My favorite is the ab bug. 23:04 * mtompset sighs, "If only my apple fan boy friends were here to listen." 23:04 jcamins "Warning: running ab will require 100% CPU on every single core you have, and never make a single request." 23:04 rangi however if someone wanted to support Koha on OpenBSD there would be nothing stopping them 23:05 mtompset I just wish Linux variants could all agree on a single packaging scheme. 23:05 eythian jcamins: so, it bechmarks the client rather than the server? 23:05 rambutan jcamins: not asthma? Craziest thing, but Lexus has asthma and it usually only bothers her in the winter--have to get a cortisone shot. 23:05 jcamins eythian: exactly. 23:06 jcamins rambutan: he's never had problems with it before. 23:06 eythian hmm. I want to go get lunch, but I _really_ don't want to go outside right now. 23:06 dcook Time to build a waterproof robot? 23:06 * dcook isn't sure about the time efficiency but it's a suggestion. 23:06 rangi yeah i think im gonna wait this downpour out 23:07 mtompset @wunder l7e5y5 23:07 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is -19.1°C (5:43 PM EST on January 02, 2014). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -24.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 30.14 in 1021 hPa (Rising). 23:07 mtompset That sounds about right. It's freezing here! 23:08 mtompset Now if we could build a heat transfer link between NZ and Ontario, we could get everyone to 0. :)