Time Nick Message 23:59 ebegin and here, it feels colder than -17, believe me 23:59 * dcook thinks it feels warmer than 25 23:59 dcook Waiting for the bus this morning, I felt like my legs were on fire :p 23:59 francharb summertime 23:58 dcook hehe 23:58 huginn francharb: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 25.0°C (10:30 AM EST on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 23:58 francharb @wunder sydney australia 23:58 dcook Wow, Saskatchewan is warmer than the East for once.. 23:58 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Regina, Saskatchewan is -9.0°C (5:00 PM CST on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Low Drifting Snow. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -19.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). 23:58 dcook @wunder yqr 23:57 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in General Burns, Ottawa, Ontario is -16.8°C (6:57 PM EST on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -17.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). 23:57 ebegin @wunder ottawa ontario 23:57 huginn ebegin: Error: No such location could be found. 23:57 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Burkeville, Richmond, British Columbia is 6.0°C (3:57 PM PST on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). 23:57 ebegin @wunder ottawa on 23:57 dcook @wunder yvr 23:57 dcook Warmer, mountains, beaches, ocean... 23:57 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -17.0°C (6:17 PM EST on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -27.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 23:57 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec 23:57 rsd30 thanks 23:57 dcook francharb: I'll keep that in mind :) 23:57 ebegin Vancouver is warmer :) 23:57 francharb tunnel++ 23:57 jcamins rsd30: in that case, I'm not sure. 23:56 dcook ebegin: Although I also love Montreal. I think there should be tunnels connecting Australia with Vancouver and Montreal ;) 23:56 rsd30 yest that is the server info I am using 23:56 dcook ebegin: Me too. I did my MLIS there and fell in love with it. 23:56 rsd30 She just reported it two days ago right after we brought our datacenter back up 23:56 francharb dcook, if they are looking for a trainer with a perfectly spoken broken english, here I am! ;) 23:56 ebegin i <3 vancouver 23:56 jcamins rsd30: lx2.loc.gov:210/LCDB 23:56 dcook That's awesome :) 23:55 jcamins LC changed their URL. 23:55 wahanui Vancouver is home to http://www.coopradio.org/ and the local uni has a co-op studies dept, so there should be quite a few. 23:55 ebegin Yes, Vancouver 23:55 jcamins rsd30: oh, could a few days ago have been two weeks ago? 23:55 dcook In Vancouver or other places? 23:55 ebegin yep 23:55 dcook BC? Really? Wow.. 23:55 * dcook wants to promote Koha among his friends and colleagues back in Canada but isn't sure what Koha vendors are around for them 23:55 ebegin dcook, BC, QC and NS 23:54 rsd30 as far as I know...like I said I am a noob. There is an OCLC server setup as well and it reports data, just not from Library of Congress 23:54 dcook ebegin, francharb: If you don't mind me asking, which provinces do you have clients in? Is it only Quebec and Ontario? 23:53 dcook Any time :) 23:53 francharb thanks dcook, jcamins 23:53 jcamins rsd30: and everything other than copy cataloging works? 23:53 francharb I just mapped what I knew with unimarc to marc21 23:53 ebegin rsd30, that's cool. You could have be stuck with a pre-3.0 version 23:53 rsd30 It has been working up until a few days ago when the server was powered off during a power outage? No firewall config changes as of late? 23:53 francharb okkkkkkkk 23:53 jcamins EasyAnalytics does. 23:53 francharb I need to test it but I have only the unimarc in mind for now... 23:52 drojf ok, i'll try to remember that. i know a library that wants to use it too. (or, i want them to use it ^^) 23:52 francharb ? 23:52 francharb does the analytical feature also add a 773$9 with the itemnumber$ 23:52 dcook Using the 774 would be nice 23:52 dcook Still busy with uni or is it holidays yet? 23:52 jcamins Please do. I thought I'd submitted a patch for that, but apparently not. 23:51 drojf dcook! 23:51 dcook drojf! 23:51 drojf i will add 774 to the xslt i think. i have it in a local copy 23:51 jcamins rsd30: no, but you might need to open up ports on your firewall. 23:50 jcamins Yes 774, and no, it is not used. 23:50 rsd30 Hi...I am a noob to Koha and have inherited a system running Koha version 3.06 on Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS. Our librarian is having difficulty cataloging books using Library of Congress records? Is there a service on the server that needs to be restarted possibly? 23:50 * dcook looks over at jcamins 23:50 dcook But I'm not sure Koha uses it 23:50 dcook That would be the 774 I believe 23:49 francharb is there a field to give you the opposite? from host to child record? 23:49 dcook You can supply the host's biblionumber in the child's 773$0 23:49 wahanui 1545 23:49 ebegin 772 and 773 23:49 dcook 773, yes 23:49 francharb 773 or 774 gives you a link from the child record to the host record righ? 23:49 ebegin hey francharb ! working late ! 23:48 ebegin good evening ! 23:48 dcook evening, ebegin 23:48 francharb so 23:47 francharb :) 23:47 dcook shhh, quiet you, jcamins :p 23:47 jcamins dcook: if they're looking to bring someone to Montreal to talk about MARC21 analytic records, I'm a lot closer. :P 23:47 francharb how can I put this clearly... 23:46 francharb actually yes 23:46 francharb :) 23:46 dcook We've been doing them more and more recently 23:46 dcook If you have any questions about analytic records with marc21, I might be able to help 23:46 francharb sure! 23:46 dcook Oh well. We'll just have to come out and visit sometime in the next few years. 23:45 dcook I'm still a bit jealous anyway ;) 23:45 dcook hehe 23:45 francharb ;) 23:45 francharb ... 23:45 francharb ahhh love 23:44 francharb :) 23:44 dcook When I went to grad school, it was either Montreal or Vancouver, but I chose Vancouver (which led me to Australia, my wife, and Koha...so I'm pretty happy) 23:43 francharb I'm pretty happy about it 23:43 dcook I have some friends there and loved it when I visited 23:43 dcook I think I would like to live in Montreal one day 23:43 dcook Very cool :) 23:43 dcook hehe 23:43 francharb ;) 23:43 francharb so actually, we came back 23:43 francharb we met in montreal a couple years ago 23:42 francharb my partner is from montreal 23:42 dcook What made you decide to move to Canada from France? 23:40 dcook Mostly coincidental though. The first time was to finish my MLIS and the second was for Kohacon ;) 23:40 dcook I've only been down here 2 years but it's been once a year 23:40 dcook Not very often at all 23:38 francharb how often do you come back in canada? 23:37 * dcook is jealous 23:37 dcook Ah, Montreal 23:37 dcook We host and develop Koha, DSpace, and a few others 23:37 francharb inlibro is located in montreal 23:37 dcook I work over at Prosentient Systems in Sydney, Australia 23:36 dcook Yep 23:36 dcook Whereabouts is inLibro located? 23:36 francharb what do you do dcook, system librarian, right? 23:36 francharb :) 23:35 dcook That's awesome! 23:35 francharb a mounth now 23:35 francharb yes 23:35 dcook So you're at inLibro now? 23:35 * dcook googles quickly 23:35 francharb ;) 23:35 francharb I'm kind of lost 23:35 francharb analytical records with unimarc : easy but now that I have to work with marc21 23:34 dcook Fun times ;) 23:34 dcook Despite originally being from Saskatchewan, I have no idea what time it is anywhere but Australia these days :p 23:34 francharb on serials 23:34 francharb getting ready for a training tomorrow 23:34 dcook Ah, well, that will do it! 23:33 francharb ;) 23:33 francharb not that late 23:33 francharb hum, I'm in ottawa, it's 6:30pm 23:31 dcook It's a bit early/late, no? 23:30 francharb hi dcook 23:30 dcook hey ya francharb 23:29 * francharb waves at #koha 22:56 cait nope 22:56 eythian cait: that's not so nice. 22:55 dcook Hmm, frosty 22:55 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.7°C (11:55 PM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady). 22:55 cait @wunder Konstanz 22:55 cait eythian: the dailyreport... still no sun here 22:54 huginn rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 4.9°C (4:54 PM CST on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising). 22:54 rambutan @wunder 64507 22:54 dcook Wellington seems a bit nicer at the moment 22:49 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (11:30 AM NZDT on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). 22:49 eythian @wunder nzwn 22:47 dcook 26 on Christmas...that's not horrible 22:47 dcook Hmm. Feels hotter than that... 22:46 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 24.0°C (9:30 AM EST on December 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 22:46 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 22:36 tcohen cya 22:36 tcohen thanks rangi 22:28 tcohen inverting the output of the script I found that recently gmcharlt fixed the Serials.t so they serve a purpose (finally) 22:27 tcohen the current failure is related to environmental changes for the jenkins execution 22:27 tcohen its just jenkins that didn't raise any alarm 22:26 tcohen hahaha 22:26 tcohen its been failing from the beggining 22:26 eythian I wasn't alarmed. 22:26 tcohen rangi, eythian, cait: false alarm 22:14 jenkins_koha Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation update - split staff UI and help files 22:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1558: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1558/ 22:12 eythian git bisect --help :) 22:12 tcohen thanks for the tip eythian, i'm looking for documentation on that 22:09 eythian you'd want to make a smart wrapper script though, as there are special codes that git bisect uses (like 125) that you'd need to pass unaltered. 22:07 tcohen heh 22:07 tcohen exactly 22:07 tcohen i need to revert the output 22:07 eythian tcohen: sure, invert your test 22:07 tcohen is just silly 22:07 tcohen i want the first that fixed it 22:07 tcohen bisect tells you the first time the test would fail 22:06 cait ok, i think i am misunderstanding what you want to say :) 22:06 cait the one that broke it 22:06 tcohen cait: so bisect returns the latest commit where the tests fail, or the first commit that fixes it 22:04 cait ? 22:04 tcohen rangi: is there a way to run bisect backwards? heh 21:58 rangi yep that outghta work, any non zero status will be classed a fail 21:57 tcohen useless output 21:55 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rangi: Possible bisect script" (14 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/34 21:42 rangi zero means no error 21:42 tcohen so it loads the db and runs updatedatabase 21:42 tcohen no, but I want to automatize the bisect process 21:41 rangi do we actually do anything with the return value? 21:39 rangi thats the unix way 21:39 tcohen should a script return 0 for "good" rangi? 21:38 eythian hi 21:35 wahanui rumour has it git bisect is our friend here 21:35 mtompset git bisect? 21:19 rangi cool 21:19 tcohen and come back 21:19 tcohen thanks rangi, i'll do some research 21:17 rangi git blame on the updatedatabase.pl file 21:17 rangi ah then id just look for teh patch that changed that 21:17 tcohen yes "NOT NULL" 21:13 rangi unless you think its a db structure change thats caused it? 21:12 rangi you shouldnt need to 21:12 tcohen the thing is, I need to reload the DB each time I presume 21:11 cait it's awesome 21:11 cait git_bisect++ 21:08 rangi it shouldnt take too long to find 21:08 rangi you need one good an one bad before it can do its magic 21:08 tcohen ok, thanks, I'll bisect it 21:08 rangi and work from there 21:08 tcohen bad 21:08 rangi git bisect bad 21:08 oleonard hi rangi, and bye #koha 21:08 rangi run tests 21:08 rangi git checkout head of 3.12.x 21:08 rangi git bisect good 21:07 rangi run tests if it passes 21:07 rangi git checkout v.3.12.06 21:07 rangi git bisect start 21:07 rangi id use git bisect 21:06 tcohen yes 21:06 rangi its failing locally too? 21:06 tcohen I cannot find recent changes that might have triggered this 21:06 tcohen Serials.t is failing 21:05 * cait sends coookies 21:04 rangi whats up? 21:02 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 21:02 tcohen @later tell rangi I'm in trouble, need your advise 21:00 wahanui I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! 21:00 tcohen rangi? 20:34 cait gmcharlt++ 20:28 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 20:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch '3.16-help-split' of https://github.com/bgkriegel/koha-translate <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=be719c7b0dcd7356f847e5fbded5a78d08dbb46d> / Translation update - split staff UI and help files <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=466a7320d197e31f67cd04e65669f22cf7ff3e12> 20:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #1558 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 6 days 23 hr ago) 20:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9807 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , There should be a way to show the content of a basketgroup without reopening it 20:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7518 normal, P3, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , searches with quotation marks don't work 20:00 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 9807: (follow-up) quell warning if invoice price not set 20:00 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807: (follow-up) reindent basketgroup.tt 20:00 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807: (follow-up) fix variable name 20:00 jenkins_koha * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9807 : Make it possible to view a basket group without reopening it 20:00 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7518: certain searches with quotation marks don't work 20:00 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 7518: regression test double-quote in search operand 20:00 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1557: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1557/ 19:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update checking out images 19:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add back missing circ summary image 19:51 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: patron restrictions 19:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #424: SUCCESS in 23 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/424/ 19:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #424 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11077 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Correct silent warnings in C4/Auth.pm 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11341 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , XSS attack vector in facets in OPAC - prog theme 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11322 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Suggestion "notes" field should be sanitized or escaped 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11059 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Not possible to sort staged dates in metric format 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11242 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , fix opac-MARCdetail.pl bizarre ordering of data and noisy warnings 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11183 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Stable , Warnings in opac 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7484 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Keeping typed values when searching for authorities 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11105 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , label - opac - places on facets not easily css selectable 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11275 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , make deleteditems.materials of type text 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11125 minor, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Remove Problematic Logic from Patron Messaging Preferences Form 19:36 jenkins_koha * Srdjan: Bug 11077: Correct more warnings in C4/Auth.pm 19:36 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11077: remove uninitialized value $pki_field warning 19:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11341: fix XSS bug in opac-search.pl (facets) 19:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: rscrub bad data before storing suggestions in the DB 19:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions - OPAC 19:36 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions pages 19:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11222 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Stable , A regression on label-item-search.pl done by Bug 9239 19:36 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11059: (follow-up) restore time in staged dates in addorderiso2709.tt 19:36 jenkins_koha * Lyon3 Team: Bug 11059: fix date sorting of import batches in basket add form 19:36 jenkins_koha * Mark Tompsett: Bug 11242: fix opac-MARCdetail.pl display and warnings 19:36 jenkins_koha * Srdjan: Bug 11183: get rid of some log noise from the OPAC 19:36 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7484: keep selected values when changing search type on authority search form 19:36 jenkins_koha * Rachel Dustin: Bug 11105: wrap places OPAC facet in a span 19:36 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: DBRev 3.12.07.001 19:36 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11275: make deleteditems.materials be of type text 19:36 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 11125: Correct display for patron messaging preferences on OPAC 19:36 jenkins_koha * Zeno Tajoli: Bug 11222: fix crash that can occur in search for items to add to label batch 19:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #146: STILL UNSTABLE in 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/146/ 19:35 cait brrrr 19:27 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.2°C (8:25 PM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). 19:27 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:23 jcamins So... mostly just depressing. 19:22 cait ah 19:18 jcamins Ecclesiastes. 19:18 jcamins cait: eh. I've forgotten what it was already. 19:17 cait interesting book? 19:14 tcohen bye #koha 19:13 jcamins It was, with the additional leading zero. 19:10 jcamins 060676760 - real ISBN? 19:09 cait hi #koha 19:08 tcohen heh 19:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #146 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #144 7 days 0 hr ago) 19:08 tcohen let the games begin 19:06 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 19:06 tcohen @later tell bgkriegel i'm about to push the latest stuff to 3.12.x, could you please update pootle? 18:14 nengard will document that 18:14 nengard thanks 18:14 nengard nothing about restrictions tab in that title :) 18:13 nengard see that's why i didn't find it :) 18:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2720 enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Overdues which debar automatically should undebar automatically when returned 18:13 oleonard Bug 2720 18:13 tcohen its a 3.14 feature right? 18:11 nengard was the restrictions tab added to the patron record in 3.14? or is that in master? not finding a bug number 17:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #1557 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 6 days 21 hr ago) 17:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11249 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Add db indexes on borrowers names 17:49 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11249: DBRev 3.15.00.006 17:49 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11249: Add Db indexes on borrowers names 17:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1556: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1556/ 17:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9807: (follow-up) quell warning if invoice price not set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=231f26b248b8f041f69b0af416778559cf66b074> / Bug 9807: (follow-up) reindent basketgroup.tt <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e5dc4c817fe352f223670da1aaa85275264c73f> / Bug 9807: (follow-up) fix variable name <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff 17:35 nengard replied 17:35 tcohen thanks gmcharlt 17:32 nengard checking now 17:32 gmcharlt nengard: I'd appreciate your comments on 11409 16:59 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 16:59 gmcharlt @later tell tcohen bug 11409 16:43 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7518: certain searches with quotation marks don't work <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=868855df4b674b495966c022392068c2fdd3a35f> / Bug 7518: regression test double-quote in search operand <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=437f06624759c464d667107d9f73ec05283f6892> 16:35 drojf druthb! 16:33 druthb drojf! 16:30 drojf hi #koha 16:27 reiveune bye 16:11 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. Quote #286 added. 16:11 gmcharlt @quote add <jcamins> perfect is also embodied in the concrete source code of the absurdist programming movement. 16:11 * druthb reboots her jcamins parser. 16:10 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "for tcohen" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/33 16:10 jcamins Yesssss! 16:10 wahanui hmmm... perfect is embodied in the concrete source code of the absurdist programming movement. 16:10 jcamins perfect! 16:10 wahanui okay, jcamins. 16:10 jcamins wahanui: perfect is also embodied in the concrete source code of the absurdist programming movement. 16:09 wahanui perfect is the enemy of good 16:09 jcamins druthb: perfect! 16:08 druthb oooh! Search code done to look like a Roulette wheel. 16:08 jcamins With syntax highlighting definitions for vim and emacs built into each file so that the lipstick is a garish red. 16:07 druthb or a pig, wearing lipstick, in the case of OPAC code? 16:07 jcamins druthb: pretty much, yah. 16:07 gmcharlt jcamins: for when merely literate programming is not enough... ;) 16:07 jcamins I was looking for examples of concrete source code, but "concrete code" brings up information about pouring sidewalks. 16:07 druthb By shaping your code like various archaic torture devices, perhaps? 16:07 druthb I'm just wondering how one invokes the essence of library automation in that art form. 16:06 druthb oh, no, I get that part, jcamins. 16:06 jcamins druthb: I found a link to a related concept to share! 16:06 * druthb is occasionally left wondering what jcamins is talking about... 16:05 jcamins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_poetry <-- like this, only executable 16:05 * druthb blinks. 16:05 jcamins gmcharlt: Koha should adopt a policy of "concrete source code," where the visual impression of the code invokes the essence of library automation. 16:04 gmcharlt jcamins: oh? 16:03 jcamins gmcharlt: I have thought about it, and I think you should enact a new policy on Koha source code. 15:54 nengard I couldn't find it for the life of me 15:54 nengard Thank you!!!! 15:54 gmcharlt nengard: itemBarcodeFallbackSearch 15:54 huginn nengard: The operation succeeded. 15:54 nengard @later tell cait just got your apology, no problem at all, I understand everyone's reaction :) 15:53 tcohen i'm puzzled gmcharlt 15:53 nengard what is the sys pref that lets you check out using title? 15:52 tcohen http://snag.gy/d8s9Z.jpg 15:51 tcohen http://snag.gy/7SFGa.jpg 15:50 tcohen i've just created a new one 15:49 tcohen yes 15:49 gmcharlt does it belong to the same vendor? 15:48 tcohen it is 15:47 gmcharlt more seriously, is the basket in question open? 15:47 gmcharlt tcohen: it is an individualist! it will never join a grouop! 15:46 tcohen why a basket is not showing on "Ungrouped baskets" on a basket group? 15:45 gmcharlt druthb: thanks 15:45 druthb gmcharlt: I really liked your post on Meta Interchange. Definitely food for thought, both inside and outside FOSS communities. 15:43 rambutan brb 15:43 rambutan and actually, on that note, I've just been informed there's rum cake downstairs in the breakroom 15:43 tcohen awesome gmcharlt 15:43 tcohen hahahahahah 15:42 ashimema from the sounds she's about to go drink lots of mulled wine.. I imagine she'd be muhc mroe co-operative after that rambutan ;) 15:41 ashimema oh dear.. 15:41 rambutan has anybody actually tried to wrap her? 15:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11249: DBRev 3.15.00.006 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=20589801e08bb725e6424bcb020968de863bd8ed> / Bug 11249: Add Db indexes on borrowers names <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=19b5c9b4cecf935c1cf17649796debe80ae7b3a8> 15:40 * druthb was confused for a moment. Read rambutan's last as "an unbelievably cooperative cait" and was reading the scrollback—but cait is cooperative all the time…. 15:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #1556 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 6 days 18 hr ago) 15:32 rambutan that's an unbelievably cooperative cat 15:31 talljoy morning #koha 15:28 oleonard alphaman: If your cat gives *you* hairballs then you're doing it wrong 15:27 gmcharlt *cough* 15:27 gmcharlt *hack* 15:27 gmcharlt *cough* 15:27 alphaman hairballs? 15:26 oleonard Now we know what gmcharlt is getting all of us for Christmas 15:19 gmcharlt apropos of absolutely nothing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jm3dm5J5r0A 15:19 druthb puh. wimp. 15:18 rambutan that hurt 15:18 rambutan ouch! 15:17 * druthb pokes rambutan gently with her pointy stick. 15:17 cait i agree about gmcharlt 15:17 rambutan :) 15:17 cait that was for tcohen :) 15:17 rambutan yes he is 15:15 cait hm nope. 15:14 rambutan gmcharlt is a poet 15:13 tcohen cait: do u remeber a situation where item type images are not listed on item type creation? 15:06 tcohen ok :-D 15:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10376 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Stable , Printing cart does not work under IE9 15:06 cait sorry, got confused :) 2 different slips 15:06 tcohen i only recall bug 10376 15:06 tcohen ok 15:05 cait i will file a bug 15:05 cait and there seems to be a regression between 3.6 (my only install i can compre it too) and 3.12.7 15:05 cait it looks likely 15:04 cait aah, maybe we never fixed it for payments, but only for invoices 15:03 tcohen that was a couple of days ago 15:03 tcohen let me check 15:03 cait tcohen: trying to print a slip for a payment 15:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10027 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Fine details not showing when printing a fine 15:02 cait bug 10027 15:01 cait fighting a bit with git 15:00 cait c 15:00 cait se 15:00 wahanui which one is that? The fixed navbar? 15:00 tcohen which one?? 15:00 cait tcohen: hm i thnk one of the patches pushed to 3.12 doesn't do its job 14:53 cait i think uppercase are a problem with solr iirc 14:45 gmcharlt tcohen: no 14:40 cait btw. i think $f is only used when you use acq... I didn't get to check,quite busy today 14:39 cait sounds interesting :) 14:36 PabloAB Yes, sadly. Thanks a lot! Now I'll write something a little bit related to koha-devel, about nicely add defined "date subfields" nicely with Javascript. 14:31 cait PabloAB: there is a new feature that will store the date something was set to withdrawn and lost... maybe custom status plus that could be a nice feature for you in the future -or a bindng module, but i don't see that coming right now 14:31 cait no problems found so far 14:30 cait PabloAB: we have used it for storing migration data - like old systemnumbers 14:22 tcohen gmcharlt: does MARC::Record have any limitation on the subfield tags it can handle? 14:19 tcohen should we limit subfield codes to ASCII chars? 14:11 PabloAB OK, we'll use uppercase, thanks a lot cait! :) 14:09 PabloAB Librarians sometimes are too creative :P 14:09 tcohen why would you want to use non-ASCII characters for naming subfields? 14:06 tcohen bug pimping? 14:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9874 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Adding subfield «ampersand» produce unexpected behaviours 14:05 PabloAB So, you say to simply add uppercase subfields, and of course not map them to anything. This won't get us into any trouble? We were afraid also of using ß or µ or æ. Librarian create & with unexpected results: Bug 9874. 14:04 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 14:04 tcohen @later tell rangi could you remove your "originmaster" branch? It makes tab-completion uncomfortable ;-) 14:03 tcohen ashimema: have you tried the patch for the daemon? 13:57 wahanui irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ 13:57 tcohen irc logs? 13:56 PabloAB Other things are for eg type of book bindings, for every time the item is repair 13:56 tcohen cait: i was indeed a big and awesome party ;P 13:55 tcohen morning #koha 13:53 PabloAB (book binding) 13:53 PabloAB Numeric, dates, dates of items going and coming from the repair section 13:52 cait what kind of information are you trying to add? 13:52 PabloAB I know, $f not mapped (AFIK) to a SQL field other than xml_other_subfields 13:52 cait i is mapped to stocknumber for an inventory number 13:52 cait and not map, then the subfield will be saved to more_subfields_xml 13:51 cait I have good experience with using upper case letters 13:51 cait and so is $f 13:51 cait $i is used 13:51 cait hm 13:50 PabloAB Here the librarians want to use some holdings subfields not defined by Koha, like 952$k, $f or $i (and we don't need some defined) but we are afraid of using lets say $k, and then on Koha 6.7 this one is used for something else. In the past we tried to redefined already used subfields, but changes are overwritten on every upgrade. What is the best way to manage this local holding data? The less nasty way I've found is to somehow code all this things on 952$x. 13:50 PabloAB I have an existentialistic question 13:49 pablito :-) 13:49 pablito hola PabloAB! 13:49 pablito hehe 13:49 PabloAB Hi all! 13:49 cait I am almost over it :) 13:49 pablito work related eh? 13:47 cait bit grumpy, but overall ok 13:40 pablito how are you? 13:40 pablito hi cait 13:40 pablito hi all 13:37 * cait had wrong non-existing branchcodes in issues and is a bit grumpy now 13:36 cait oleonard: it's ... meh. 13:35 * oleonard stays at work 13:34 oleonard Alright fine. 13:34 magnuse s/to/too/ 13:34 magnuse yeah, not to shabby i think 13:33 oleonard How's Tuesday so far? Should I stick with it? 13:33 NateC hiya magnuse! 13:33 oleonard Hi rest-of-the-world 13:32 * cait waves 13:30 magnuse gooooood morning americas! 12:20 cait overdues are independent from fines, so yep 12:19 magnuse hm, i wonder if that would allow the fee per item to be zero, and then have the billing fee be the only fee? 12:19 * cait grumps a little because it seems totally possible to have non-existing branchcodes in statistics and issues :( 12:17 magnuse cait++ 12:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11092 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Need a processing fee and billing fee on late notices. 12:17 cait bug 11092 12:14 magnuse ooh, i better take another look for that 12:12 cait magnuse: not currently - there might be a bug tho about having some kind of per letter fee 11:39 magnuse there is no way in koha to charge per reminder, right? so that one reminder would cost the same, regardsless of the number of items/issues you are reminded about? 11:30 * rjones_ slaps mtj around a bit with a large fishbot 11:14 rjones_ so, what could be the possible correction i have to make ? 11:13 cait and therefore did the change on purpose 11:13 cait maybe that library was already using 8080 for something else 11:13 cait it's hard to keep everything current 11:13 rjones_ :( 11:13 cait and only very few are using centos 11:13 cait rjones_: lots of people write there 11:08 rjones_ hmm yes...i thought the wiki info wont have any errors 11:06 cait that's why whe were surprised about the centos instructions 11:06 cait for opac and staff by default 11:06 cait if you have localhost it would be: localhost and localhost:8080 11:06 rjones_ what will be the staff login and opac login url's by default? 11:05 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "...and on debian" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/32 11:05 cait you shouldn't have to add something new from scratch 11:05 cait rjones_: hm there should already be an entry - one for staff oen for opac 11:04 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "this is my ports.conf on ubuntu" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/31 11:02 rjones_ i tried adding a virtualhost block entry in httpd.conf file too for port 8008 11:01 magnuse maybe you have to add "Listen 8008" there, if that is what you want to use 11:00 magnuse on debian, apache has a config file called ports.conf, where you have to tell it to listen to the ports you run koha on 10:58 rjones_ right now, its in 8008 port...nothing in 8080 10:57 cait from probably 8080 to 8008 and restart apache, that could work 10:57 cait i thnk if you changed the port in that file /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf 10:56 cait rjones_: mtj didn't say more after posting the links 10:56 cait i thnk nothing in between 10:56 cait khall_away: ping :) 10:53 rjones_ which step am i missing? 10:52 rjones_ mtj, i got disconnected 10:43 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.2_on_Debian_Squeeze 10:43 mtj http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_Documentation 10:41 mtj there is an important step missing from the install guide, that you are using 10:40 mtj …then you can use your working debian Koha, to help with your Centos install 10:38 mtj rjones_, i recommend installing koha in a debian vm, with .deb packages - for your first attempt 10:36 mtj sorry, bbiab... 10:36 rjones_ so, u need me to try changing ports? 10:33 mtj "Define your web server ports for Koha opac and staff interfaces. A sample setting is given below. You can customize web configuration for your needs. " 10:32 mtj this file is probably incorrect -> /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf 10:32 rjones_ hmm yes 10:32 cait 8008 vs. 8080 10:31 cait right, looks like a typo? 10:31 cait and staff interface should run from 8080 10:31 cait 80 10:31 cait by default the opac should be running on port 8 10:30 mtj rjones_, your apache stuff will be incorrect, from that guide 10:30 cait there are 2 interfaces 10:30 cait i'd say check your virutalhost configuraton in apache 10:30 cait it's a lot easier to install on ubuntu or debian because of the packages 10:30 rjones_ yes... 10:30 cait are you bound to CentOS? 10:30 cait but on the staff side you should get a login to run the web installer 10:30 cait and is normal 10:30 cait that should show in opac 10:30 rjones_ i got no clue where i am going wrong 10:30 cait did you change the ports? 10:29 cait hmm 10:27 rjones_ Installation went on fine. At the end when I try to access koha page (web installer) from my pc (using http://koha.domainname:8008), it redirects me to the the maintenance.pl page with a message System maintenance The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon! If you have any questions, please contact the site administrator.. 10:27 rjones_ I am trying to install koha in CentOS. I was following the howto in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.10_on_Centos_6.3_x86_64_en. 10:26 cait what's your question? 10:26 cait hi rjones_ 10:26 rjones_ i am a newbie to koha and need some help 10:25 rjones_ hi 09:05 ashimema morning cait 09:04 cait morning barton and ashimema 08:21 * cait waves back 08:20 * magnuse waves to cait 08:20 * magnuse never thought about that before... 08:20 magnuse wow, looks like liceland is just below the arctic circle? 08:15 magnuse well, 1,5-2 hours drive north of it 08:15 magnuse just nort of the arctic circle 08:14 busla how north is Bodo? 08:13 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Perlukor, Kopavogur, Iceland is -0.8°C (8:06 AM GMT on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 28.88 in 978 hPa (Falling). 08:13 magnuse @wunder reykjavik 08:12 * magnuse is in Bodø, Norway 08:12 magnuse hehe 08:12 magnuse any koh action there? 08:12 busla no.. very coooold! 08:12 magnuse very cool! 08:12 busla magnuse: hey, yes 08:12 magnuse hiya busla - in iceland? 08:11 * magnuse never remembers who amongst the biblibre crew is actually in marseille 08:11 magnuse yeah, that does look nice 08:10 huginn alex_a: The current temperature in Limoges, France is 7.0°C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). 08:10 alex_a @wunder gueret 08:10 alex_a No magnuse, beautiful day today 08:09 sophie_m bonjour magnuse :-) 08:09 magnuse bonjour sophie_m 08:07 magnuse alex_a: cold(ish) today? 08:03 alex_a bonjour magnuse 08:00 magnuse muharharhar 08:00 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Rising). 08:00 magnuse @wunder boo 08:00 magnuse hah, i can beat that! 08:00 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is -0.3°C (9:00 AM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Steady). 08:00 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:00 magnuse bonjour alex_a 08:00 * magnuse waits impatiently for his new laptop 08:00 alex_a bonjour 07:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Separate po file for help pages 07:57 jenkins_koha Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 7934: generate separate PO files for help pages 07:57 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1555: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1555/ 07:48 cait bbiab 07:45 cait hi reiveune :) 07:45 reiveune hi magnuse, cait, kathryn, rangi :) 07:44 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:43 reiveune hello 07:37 magnuse bgkriegel++ cait++ gmcharlt++ 07:37 cait bgkriegel++ 07:37 magnuse \o/ 07:37 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 07:37 magnuse confetti! 07:37 wahanui well, confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 07:37 magnuse confetti! 07:37 wahanui i think confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 07:37 magnuse confetti! 07:37 wahanui rumour has it confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 07:37 magnuse confetti! 07:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Separate po file for help pages 07:37 magnuse Bug 7934 07:32 * magnuse needs to read up on the lists 07:29 cait my first reaction was not so positive as well, but I think i can see the point now 07:28 * cait is a bit unhappy how the mailing list discussion turned out 07:28 cait morning magnuse 07:01 cait brr 07:01 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -2.6°C (8:00 AM CET on December 17, 2013). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 07:01 cait @wunder Konstanz 06:37 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. :) 06:36 * mtompset waves good bye. 06:36 Oak hey cait :) 06:36 cait hi Oak :) 06:36 cait ah, now i missed dcook again... no report about tuesday 06:35 * Oak waves 06:24 cait gmcharlt++ 06:14 mtj this looks perfect... -> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/apptelemetry 06:07 mtj np, google has a bunch of results 06:06 mtj something small/fast - not firebug :p 06:06 dcook Alas, I do not, and I gotta run. Good luck! 06:04 mtj heres a better Q, does anyone know of a small FF plugin to page-load time? 06:03 mtj ahh 06:03 dcook Mind you, one of the latest Chrome builds for Debian didn't play well with my VM... 06:03 mtj hmm, tho i do have a bunch more plugins running on my FF 06:02 dcook I got tired of FF as it was way slower for regular browsing on my laptop a few years ago 06:02 dcook Hmm, I tend to only use Chrome/Chromium 06:02 mtj is it just me, or is FF waay slower than chrome for dev work? 05:59 dcook Not a bad mistake to make, as it's a good thing to know :) 05:57 mtj i made the same quoting mistake with a heredoc, a few months ago 05:56 dcook :) 05:56 mtj cool, good to hear you got it sorted dcook 05:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #1555 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1547 6 days 9 hr ago) 05:49 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7934: generate separate PO files for help pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6cf065da5e6ef431f266359aaa3737b85f330e93> 05:49 dcook My wife forgot her laptop charger back in Canada and it turns out the accommodation still has it in their lost and found 05:49 dcook Sweet! 05:48 dcook Despite the similarities, PHP and Perl sure are different beasts 05:44 dcook thanks mtj and gmcharlt :) 05:44 dcook I see that now, hehe 05:44 gmcharlt ah, yes, that would cause interpolation 05:43 dcook Not <<'SQL'; 05:43 dcook I was using <<SQL; 05:43 dcook Ah, it looks like I wasn't doing my heredoc correctly 05:40 gmcharlt dcook: might this be interfering? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/user-variables.html 05:40 mtj http://perlmaven.com/here-documents 05:39 dcook That was the first thing I tried :( 05:39 mtj try a here-doc ? 05:38 dcook Yeah, that's what I'm looking at at the moment :/ 05:38 mtj http://perldoc.perl.org/perlop.html#Quote-and-Quote-like-Operators 05:37 dcook Agreed. I've tried a few different quoting methods but I must be missing something 05:37 mtj sounds like a quoting issue 05:36 dcook This @tag being Xpath not an array variable.. 05:35 dcook :S 05:35 dcook Possible unintended interpolation of @tag in string 05:35 dcook But if I try to manually write it into the SQL in a Perl script, I get errors.. 05:35 dcook So I can load SQL from the database that contains "@tag" 04:22 mtj seems to be working fine :) 04:22 mtj hey, so ignore those comments ^^ 03:57 mtj woah, it just worked :) 03:53 mtj hmm, just taking another look... 03:50 mtj ...who's value is fetched from GetIssuingCharges() 03:49 mtj its a 'virtual' column, that is sometimes added to an item hash 03:46 brendan_ right 03:46 mtj well, its not an actual column, in the items table 03:45 brendan_ mtj: is there an items.fine ? 03:45 mtj it seems to actually display a rental charge, for an item - not a 'fine' 03:44 mtj i've been experimenting with it, have have realized it doesn't quite do what i thought it did :/ 03:43 mtj peeps, does anyone have any experience with using a <<items.fine>> placeholder, in their ODUE notices template? 02:02 mtj rangi, …but i think your responses carry the most 'weight' 01:58 mtj its a chore to have to response sensibly to the negitive thread hijacking 01:54 rangi if every post is gonna derped on, people are gonna stop fast 01:53 rangi its actually becoming a real problem 01:52 mtj yeah, actually, thats not even funny :/ 01:51 rangi im not :) 01:49 * mtj looking forward to that thread getting derpier... 01:40 rangi just one day things 01:40 rangi yeah we have had 2 koha nz meetings 01:39 dcook I would probably go if there were a meetup in Sydney 01:39 mtj http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-oz 01:38 dcook Yeah, I'm on Koha-oz as well. Very low traffic. I think they organize things in Melbs from time to time though. 01:38 mtj … they possibly had the sense to not mention it on the Koha list :p 01:37 rangi but they do talk about regional stuff 01:37 rangi its pretty low traffic 01:37 rangi im on it 01:37 rangi yep 01:37 mtj it was set up last year 01:36 mtj fwiw, the australian koha librarians wanted (and have) their own mailing-list, too 01:36 mtj hey folks... 01:36 rangi https://www.ohloh.net/p?query=kohana&sort=relevance 01:35 eythian http://www.kohala.nl/ <-- not very updated 01:35 rangi you bump into it on ohloh 01:34 eythian There's also a Dutch kohala, I think 01:34 rangi kohana is also i think a couple of other projects 01:34 dcook Good rebuttal, me thinks 01:34 jcamins Kohala. 01:34 jcamins Ohhh. That's why "Kohana" sounded familiar. 01:32 rangi masscat are paying for NCIP in koha .. what exactly have you done for us lately Paul A 01:31 rangi but i didnt want to leave nora having to read that attack without a quick rebuttal right after 01:31 rangi not my best work 01:25 dcook Toxic is certainly the exact word... 01:25 dcook ;) 01:25 dcook hehe 01:25 wizzyrea I figured it was something like that, but I have to get my digs in on IE where I can. 01:25 wizzyrea :) 01:25 dcook wizzyrea: I was referring to the email (had to look at the archive online as I just get the digests) 01:24 eythian I'll let you do the replying this time :D 01:24 * wizzyrea pats dcook "I feel that way about IE too." 01:24 * dcook looks at his web browser then sees black as he thumps his head against his desk 01:24 rangi except grief 01:23 rangi and we cant let the last word on every thread by a person who has contributed nothing to koha 01:23 rangi well the idea is fine 01:23 ibeardslee .. do you need to defend the idea or just feel you need to? 01:22 rangi now i feel the need to defend an idea, i dont actually give a crap about eitherway 01:22 rangi heh 01:22 jcamins Wait... 01:21 jcamins At least he's contributing as RMaint. 01:20 rangi that guy is toxic 01:20 rangi and another thread ruined