Time Nick Message 00:07 mtompset Actually, I think bug 10891 could still complement 11232. 00:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10891 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Make facets customisable 00:08 mtompset In that 11232 would actually get zebra based facets working, and that 10891 would provide the mechanisms to do filtering for that. 00:09 dcook Yeah, could call. 00:09 dcook It would just not need that MARC mapping column 00:09 dcook Feel free to note that on 10891 :) 00:13 mtompset Oops... I think I put it on 11232. 00:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11322: rscrub bad data before storing suggestions in the DB <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=48b339980e20bdefb21141d537c283d15e267d93> / Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions - OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=90f3b84def924dcc76719c01d75aa09241c92f8e> / Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions pages <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/ 00:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #247 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:37 jenkins_koha Starting build #1533 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 00:48 joels68 Hi edveal, how's it going? 00:56 edveal Going well and how are things with you joels68 00:57 joels68 Good. Back home in TX or on the road? 01:03 edveal Finally back home. I was in Chicago and could not get home thanks to the weather in TX so I had to just go to Austin for a few days before Thanksgiving and meet my family there. 01:06 joels68 Weather here in MN has been remarkably calm. Hoping for a brown Christmas. It can change here real fast. 01:07 edveal I hear that, in Lubbock we have had lows around freezing and highs in the 70's 01:09 joels68 Can you point me to any examples of custom content added to the CSSR theme? I know CSSR is on the way out but I'd like to find some code I could modify w/o too much work. 01:10 joels68 I'd like to do something like a rotating new book display or something similar. 01:15 edveal I will send you something to check out. 01:17 joels68 Appreciate it. I'm redoing or spiffing up all of my consortium's web sites. 01:18 edveal I PM'ed you a link. 01:24 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #247: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/247/ 01:24 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions pages 01:24 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions - OPAC 01:24 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: rscrub bad data before storing suggestions in the DB 01:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11322 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Suggestion "notes" field should be sanitized or escaped 01:27 mtompset Does the solr search page for opac differ than the zebra search page? 01:28 * dcook thinks one would probably have to ask someone from France about that one 01:29 dcook Also, rangi, it looks like the dashboard is still thinking it's November 01:30 eythian wahanui: osi model 01:30 wahanui rumour has it osi model is shock, denial, guilt, anger, bargaining, hope, acceptance 01:32 eythian wahanui: seven stages of grief 01:32 wahanui seven stages of grief are lettuce, tomatoes, rice, beans, sour cream, cheese, guacamole 01:35 joels68 Don't forget layer 8 issues... 01:35 joels68 AKA user error. 01:36 joels68 Bologna maybe? 01:38 joels68 wahanui: Why does the end of "Empire" make me cry? 01:38 wahanui joels68: wish i knew 01:39 joels68 sniff 01:46 rangi dcook: ah yep will fix that, thanks for the heads up 01:55 joels68 Hi BobB, how's Sydney? 01:56 BobB hi joels68, its a beautiful day in Sydney 01:56 BobB @wunder Sydney NSW Australia 01:56 huginn BobB: Error: No such location could be found. 01:56 BobB @wunder Sydney Australia 01:56 huginn BobB: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 24.0°C (12:30 PM EST on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). 01:56 eythian @wunder nzwn 01:56 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 22.0°C (2:30 PM NZDT on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 01:56 eythian not too far off 01:57 joels68 The original Star Wars trilogy is on Spike now. 01:57 BobB very nice for wellington eythian :) 01:57 joels68 @wunder Worthington MN 01:57 huginn joels68: The current temperature in Worthington, Minnesota is 4.0°C (7:55 PM CST on December 02, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.55 in 1001 hPa. 01:58 BobB brrrr, take a coat! 01:58 rangi dcook: fixed 01:58 joels68 A big coat 02:00 eythian turns out Voyager also allows items with duplicate barcodes. 02:02 rangi unique smunique 02:02 rangi who needs that 02:03 jcamins eythian: it might be poor normalization. 02:03 eythian could be, but that's no excuse for the system allowing inconsistent data. 02:04 rangi ]/ws 26 02:04 rangi gah 02:14 edveal Any jQuery folks in here. I need some help. 02:14 dcook jQueryish 02:14 dcook What's up, edveal? 02:15 edveal Trying to take a patron barcode and slice X numbers off of it an pass it through to the userid. 02:16 dcook On the member page? 02:17 edveal yes memberentry.pl 02:17 edveal I can pass it through but when I try anything regarding slicing it breaks 02:18 mtompset druthb++ # good multilingual talk. :) 02:18 dcook How do you mean breaks? 02:18 dcook Do you get any error messages? 02:18 dcook It sounds like you're probably having a syntax issue of some kind 02:19 edveal Well it won't work... No errors and firebug does not even show errors. 02:19 mtompset oleonard++ # for taking Ruth's jabs. :) 02:22 eythian edveal: firebug breakpoints are often handy 02:22 eythian so you can single step through js 02:22 edveal Yeah and I am not getting any that is puzzling me. 02:22 eythian not getting any what? 02:23 edveal Not getting any errors or warning in firebug. 02:24 eythian use breakpoints to single step through the js 02:24 eythian so you can see what it's doing 02:25 dcook Alternatively, use Chrome and take a look at the errors that show up in the console log 02:26 eythian It's probably that if they don't show up in one, they won't show up in the other. 02:26 eythian (This is not always true however.) 02:27 dcook Chrome has typically been pretty good at showing JS errors, but I don't use Firefox much so I can't really compare :/. 02:28 dcook Putting in breakpoints makes sense though 02:28 dcook Alert stuff along the way and then see where it breaks 02:28 dcook edveal: I assume when it breaks, it doesn't get passed to the userid? 02:29 edveal Alright I am going to call it a night and work on this later. Thanks guys. 02:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1533: SUCCESS in 1 hr 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1533/ 02:35 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions pages 02:35 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: fix XSS bug in purchase suggestions - OPAC 02:35 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11322: rscrub bad data before storing suggestions in the DB 02:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11322 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Suggestion "notes" field should be sanitized or escaped 02:35 rangi heh i invented a word 02:37 dcook rscrub? 02:37 rangi yeah, just a typo 02:43 dcook At first, I thought it was a typo, then I started thinking a r(angi)scrub might be special ;) 02:48 mtompset could someone else confirm this problem: have 1 book that matches keywords in branch A, but do a search for those keywords in branch B. What do you get in 3.12.x? 3.14.x? 02:49 mtompset (in opac) 02:50 mtompset In 3.12.x, I'm getting no results, but in 3.14.x, I'm getting 404. 02:50 mtompset (the error page) 02:50 eythian if it's a 404, then you can easily figure it out 02:50 eythian because it's asking for a URL that doesn't exist 02:51 mtompset because the biblionumber doesn't exist. 02:51 mtompset But I don't get why 3.12.x and 3.14.x behave differently. 02:51 eythian oh 02:51 eythian hmm 02:51 eythian could be an indexing issue? 02:51 eythian it thinks there's a result, but there really isn't 02:52 mtompset There is 1 result, but for the wrong branch. 02:52 mtompset Do you get the same behaviour in your 3.12.x and 3.14.x? 02:52 mtompset That's what I was asking. 02:53 eythian I tried it in 3.12 just before and got the correct biblio. 02:53 eythian I don't have 3.14 handy to test 02:53 mtompset no... ask for it in the WRONG branch. 02:53 mtompset not all libraries, which is default. 02:54 eythian ah. The one I have active only has one branch. 02:54 mtompset add a dummy branch, and search for it in the dummy branch. 02:55 eythian I'm in the process of migrating to the system, I don't want to mess with its database right now. 02:55 mtompset Okay... 02:55 mtompset I understand the notion of getting distracted. 02:55 mtompset Didn't you migrate yesterday? 02:55 eythian But that 404 is odd: why is it getting a biblionumber that doesn't exist. 02:55 eythian the day before, but this is a different one. 02:55 mtompset Ah. 04:07 bag evening :) 04:11 mtompset Greetings, bag 04:11 bag heya mtompset 04:11 wahanui mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. 04:11 mtompset Most definitely. I am so far behind in my thank you note snail mails! 05:19 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. 05:59 dcook Karma for MARC:: Perl authors 05:59 dcook gmcharlt++ 06:00 dcook I remember a time when I thought it was magic. Now I look at parts of it and just admire people taking the time to put it together. 06:44 dcook Time for home and new electronics! 06:57 Jurgens Hi All, hopefully some one can give me a quick answer to this: Is it possible to email patrons offering an account summary. What I want to be able to do is send an email out to all patrons who have unpaid fines - and if possible the item they got the fine from if they have brought the item back but not paid the fine yet. Something similair in the way advanced notices are sent? 06:59 Jurgens I can easily send overdue notices with the fine amout for each item, no problem. But am looking to send a reminder kind of email about outstanding fines, mayble like a quarterly/yearly thing. 07:35 * magnuse waves in norwegian 07:36 * magnuse waves to cait 07:37 * cait waves to magnuse 07:39 magnuse wassup? 07:41 cait hmm 07:41 cait not sure, i just woke up :) 07:42 magnuse hehe 07:42 magnuse @later tell rangi: yeah, that's what i suspected :-) 07:42 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 07:43 reiveune hello 07:44 magnuse bonjour reiveune 07:44 reiveune salut magnuse , cait , rangi , kathryn :) 07:44 cait good mornign reiveune :) 07:47 magnuse found any major flaws in 3.14 yet? 07:47 cait restrictions are a bit werid 07:47 cait that's the debarred flag 07:47 cait we have a patch, but it didn't work for oleonard if you wanted to take a look that would be good 07:48 magnuse wish i had the time... 07:48 magnuse things will be better after new year, i hope 07:48 cait i keep hoping that too :) 07:49 magnuse :-) 08:33 gaetan_B hello 08:33 wahanui que tal, gaetan_B 08:36 cait hi gaetan_B 08:40 gaetan_B hi cait, allesklar ? 08:40 cait ja, alles gut 08:40 cait und bei dir? 08:46 petter good morning koha 08:49 cait good morning petter 08:53 ashimema good morning #koha, cait, petter 08:54 cait good morning ashimema 08:55 cait brb 09:18 * magnuse waves to petter 09:19 petter hei magnus! 09:19 petter vært bra i Hamburg? 09:19 magnuse heia! 09:19 magnuse jepp, veldig 09:19 petter ble du inspirert? 09:19 petter kult 09:20 magnuse jepp, Catmandu::RDF is teh rulez! 09:21 * Oak waves 09:22 magnuse Oak 09:22 Oak magnuse 09:22 magnuse :-) 09:22 Oak \o/ 09:23 Oak @wunder Konstanz 09:23 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (10:00 AM CET on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Rising). 09:23 Oak oooh 09:23 magnuse @wunder boo 09:23 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 1.0°C (9:50 AM CET on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Falling). 09:23 magnuse heh yeah, lots of wind today 09:23 Oak she wins 09:24 Oak @wunder islamabad 09:24 huginn Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 22.0°C (2:00 PM PKT on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 38%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 09:24 Oak hmm. pleasant. 09:25 magnuse yeah, that does not sound too bad 09:26 Oak it's great... considering that in summer we go as high as 40 C... 09:27 * magnuse gasps at the mere thought of it 09:28 Oak [off] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extreme_weather_records_in_Pakistan 09:32 * magnuse strikes Mohenjo-daro off the list of potential places to live 09:36 scholar I wish to evaluate Koha and have a question about how to import our existing books into the koha catalog 09:38 scholar I have a very simple excel file of the books, but most records have only "title" and "our id" field (our id = a unique number which is on a barcode we added to each book). some records also have author field and date added. 09:38 scholar I have seen that I can import the data as a MARC file using MarcEdit software 09:39 scholar But during the import, I have to map each field in the "Map To" box in MarcEdit. Question: How do I find out the code to input here for "title" and "author" etc? 09:41 cait scholar: koha uses marc21 09:41 scholar Question 2: We are going to scan every book anyway as our stock data is corrupted. Is it possible to scan each books barcode (I think this gives the ISBN code?) and then somehow lookup the detailed MARC data from this ISBN code? 09:41 cait you can use up the format specifications at http://loc.gov/marc 09:41 cait you can use z29.50 to download data/records from other catalogs 09:42 cait in koha, using the isbn or title words for searching 09:42 cait you can find information about that in the manual 09:42 cait manual? 09:42 wahanui hmmm... manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation 09:45 cait z39.50 - typoed 09:46 ashimema @wunder Steveange, UK 09:46 huginn ashimema: Error: No such location could be found. 09:46 ashimema @wunder Stevenage, UK 09:46 huginn ashimema: The current temperature in Pin Green, Stevenage, United Kingdom is 5.4°C (9:40 AM GMT on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 09:46 cait @wunder Konstanz 09:46 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.8°C (10:45 AM CET on December 03, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). 09:46 cait brrr 09:46 ashimema brrr indeed 09:47 scholar I tried using the demo sites to download the book data via Z39.50, but it gave no results. I think this is because our books are in Japanese. I found a list of z39.50 databases, but for Japan it had only 4 university libraries and I think they would have different books to ours. Is it not possible to fetch the data from Amazon Japan etc? 09:48 cait amazon doens't provide data in the right formats 09:48 cait or an interface to get it 09:48 cait I'd give the universities a try 09:49 cait and maybe look for a unoin catalog with data - nacsis maybe? 09:50 cait scholar: where are you located? in japan? 09:51 scholar We are in the UK but its a Japanese school with a library 09:51 cait [off] maybe try that http://www.nii.ac.jp/CAT-ILL/en/about/cat/z3950.html 09:51 scholar I just tried Waseda Uni to look for ISBN: 4834000850 and it returned a result 09:54 scholar OK so the answer is: I have to install Koha and then setup the connection to waseda or nii.ac.jp for z39.50 lookup and then get all the ISBN numbers and populate the catalog that way. 09:55 cait it might give you better data than migrating from excel 09:55 BrookeindaCity Flyin a bit blind. Doing mah read the logs while on my touch routine 09:56 scholar ok i will now go read the manual to figure out how to install and set up z39 connections. thank you. 09:56 cait scholar: it's mostly entering the connection data into a configuation form 09:57 scholar ah ok, maybe i can do that on one of the demo sites. 09:58 cait yep 10:56 cait back 11:00 magnuse anyone know if http://rperl.org/ is worth supporting? 11:03 cait not me 11:11 ashimema I can't exactly see what it is 11:12 ashimema aha.. it's a perl compiler. 11:12 ashimema I see. 11:13 ashimema I'm still none the wiser on wether it's worth supporting though. 11:24 cait so... 11:24 cait i have an hour to spend on qa 11:24 cait i am taking suggestions :P 11:29 ashimema 11078 would be nice to see moving again.. it's in Failed QA state but has received a number of followups from doug since.. 11:29 ashimema Not sure where it stands.. wether it needs a refreshed sign-off or a re-qa 11:29 ashimema I'm happy to help with testing/qa of it though once we've worked out that 11:30 ashimema I'de also love to se the plack/nginx patches get some refreshed love ;) 11:31 ashimema for those though, I'd love to get together with eythian and see what he think in regard to how those patches fit into packages 11:33 ashimema I'm about to QA bug 6331 11:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6331 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , Obsolete marc column in deleteditems 11:33 ashimema just so we don't overlap on work 11:34 cait ashimema: i won't be much help with plack/nginx i think... eythian's opinion would be certainly good 11:34 cait ashimema: make sure it has no information that is needed somewhere :) 11:35 ashimema Yeah.. I'm just waiting for a opportune moment to catch him. 11:35 ashimema yeah.. that's my main thoughts.. 11:36 cait him being in nz doesn't make it easier - i know that :) 11:36 cait best bet is probably in your evening :( 11:36 ashimema Is he actually back in nz now? 11:37 cait ashimema: could you take alook at 11069? 11:37 cait that#s the big record one i did yesterday 11:37 cait ashimema: yep has been for quite a while 11:37 ashimema I've lost track of his europe trip dates. 11:37 ashimema oh.. silly me 11:37 cait hehe understandable 11:37 cait rule of thumb 11:37 wahanui rule of thumb is that if JS isn't working on a translation, look for JS errors that have crept in. 11:37 cait if it's summer here, he might be around :P he likes avoiding winter 11:37 ashimema sure, I'll try and fit it in. 11:38 ashimema haha.. sounds sensible.. 11:38 ashimema though I like skiing in NZ in their winter 11:40 cait :) 11:40 cait oh another request 11:40 cait could you give 10944 a nudge? I ownder if my https setup was faulty 11:40 cait is faulty a word? 11:40 cait well wonder if it was my fault that it didn't work and not the patch's 11:41 ashimema yup, faulty is a word. 11:41 ashimema OK.. it's added to my queue 11:42 ashimema that's a very interesting bug.. didn't know amazon had shipped an ssl version of the images.. 11:42 ashimema that get me excited ;) 11:44 ashimema ack.. 6331 needs a followup 11:45 cait ashimema: apparently only for .com... i could be more excited :) 11:45 cait actually i would like the server to get the pictures in general over the client... but not sure about the terms of use with amazon, probably not allowed 11:47 ashimema yeah.. Mark does a fetch to server on one of his apps but it's a blatent infringment on terms of service.. (and amazon have now blocked the server) 11:48 cait ew 11:48 cait we have a german provider of cover data now that has some quite good terms of use, i hope to implement that for 3.16 11:48 cait but the server getting the pictures bt... i have a poc (with rangi's help) but it's quite hacky 11:49 cait looking at bug 11035 now 11:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11035 normal, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Signed Off , Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js 11:50 cait hm haven't seen oleonard in a while 11:52 cait hm yui is bsd licsense - so i guess it's compatible? 11:53 ashimema poc? 11:53 wahanui poc is Proof Of Concept 11:53 ashimema aha 11:53 ashimema I would gues so 11:54 ashimema cait.. there needs to be a second followup on 6331, but once it's done can I get you to QA that one.. I can't now as colin did the first followup whilst I was failing it.. 11:54 ashimema great minds obviosly think alike 11:54 cait bug 6331 11:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6331 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Failed QA , Obsolete marc column in deleteditems 11:55 cait yes, i will keep it on my list 11:55 cait remind me if I don't do it this week :) 11:55 ashimema I'm just doing the second followup myself now.. seeing as Colin has now made it so I can't QA it anyways.. 11:55 cait please check if it is really unused 12:01 cait bug 11035 passed qa 12:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11035 normal, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Passed QA , Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js 12:02 cait looking at 11249 now 12:13 cait ashimema: i will wait until it's signed off again - so i can do qa on the marc column one 12:14 cait now looking at bug 11249 12:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11249 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Add db indexes on borrowers names 12:32 ashimema hmm 10944 doesn't work for me either cait.. 12:32 cait bug 10944 12:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10944 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , Mixed content warnings in results and detail with Amazon images on https 12:32 cait ashimema: not good, but kinda glad it was not me 12:32 ashimema and i've definitely got https setup correctly for the rest of the site. 12:33 ashimema I'm wondering if it's beacue i'm using bririths site amazon. 12:33 cait could you leave a note with your results? 12:33 cait bri...? 12:33 cait i just switched on the cover things, you don't need the keys 12:33 cait and think i kept the locale the same 12:34 cait but hardcoding the locale could be a problem for non-english covers? not sure if it's one big pool or not 12:34 ashimema mm 12:34 ashimema investigating futher so i can write a usefull comment 12:34 cait thanks a lot 12:35 cait i am still pondering the indexes 12:35 cait trying to make sense of the mysql documentation there 12:41 cait 11249 passed too 12:42 ashimema Your on a mission today arent you cait 12:42 cait lol trying 12:43 cait but now i have to get ready for another trip to the city... taking advantage of this vacation and avoiding the big christmas shopping crowds :) 12:43 ashimema ooh.. my toys have just arrived.. new ssd for me 12:43 cait hehe :) 12:43 ashimema good plan 12:43 cait yeah still have to figure out what to do with mine, i put the old harddrive in when i got back 12:45 ashimema do you have to set 'using_https' template variable somehow? 12:45 cait ashimema: i found no pref about it 12:45 cait not sure how it does look it up 12:45 cait maybe it's broken 12:46 cait i wondered if it was not working if you use localhost or something in my case 12:46 cait ok, gotta run :) bbl 12:52 ashimema got the bugger.. it's not implemented for bootstrap 12:53 tcohen hi ashimema 12:57 pablito hi koha experts! 12:57 pablito Is anyone available to help me with a few Koha questions? 13:14 tcohen shoot 13:15 tcohen someone will answer, eventually :-D 13:21 francharb good morning all 13:38 magnuse kia ora NateC 13:39 pablito ok 13:41 pablito is the use the of 008 necessary for Koha? 13:41 pablito tag 008 14:04 pablito If I have a book with multiple languages how would I specify in MARC? 14:07 tcohen it looks like it is field 041 14:07 tcohen http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd041.html 14:13 pablito ok thanks 14:17 tcohen pablito: it looks like you need to repeat subfield $a in 041 for each language 14:18 pablito i see 14:21 ashimema Hi tcohen 14:23 ashimema bugs are now required to work on bootstrap now right.. wondering wether to fail QA and ask for followup.. or just ask for followup on bug 110944 14:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=110944 was not found. 14:23 jcamins pablito: you should always ask questions in-channel. 14:24 jcamins And, tcohen is correct. 14:24 ashimema bug 10944 14:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10944 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Signed Off , Mixed content warnings in results and detail with Amazon images on https 14:24 pablito ack :-) 14:25 magnuse ashimema: i'd say fail qa and ask for followup, we can't risk the bootstrap theme falling behind 14:26 magnuse but cait and gmcharlt should probably weigh in on that 14:35 tcohen magnuse: maybe a "not enough" flag :-D 14:36 magnuse yeah! :-) 14:39 ashimema Cheers magnuse.. that was my thoughts too.. 15:14 gmcharlt @alter tell cait regarding your question on bug 11035, I'll add a follow-up updating About>Licenses for the new component; in general, yes, that should be updated when a new separately-licensed library is added 15:14 huginn gmcharlt: I suck 15:14 gmcharlt @later tell cait regarding your question on bug 11035, I'll add a follow-up updating About>Licenses for the new component; in general, yes, that should be updated when a new separately-licensed library is added 15:14 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 15:19 druthb @quote random 15:19 huginn druthb: Quote #93: "Koha is not an acronym, so it should not be in all-capitals. Koha is a Maori word." (added by wizzyrea at 07:20 PM, September 09, 2010) 15:19 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 15:20 druthb shut up, wahanui. 15:20 wahanui druthb: huh? 15:20 druthb wahanui: botsnack cookie, to keep you quiet. 15:20 wahanui :) 15:34 nengard morning all 15:35 nengard anyone know the syntax to query an indicator field using extractxml in mysql? 15:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #136 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FIXED) 16:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #248 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:04 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11035: (follow-up) update licenses section <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=097d5d5c8e9e4ba2ec3839f376bd81e4c2d915b5> / Bug 11035: (follow-up) move shortcut.js <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0dcb44ae169d22108b3636999cc1609a739cb94> / Bug 11035: (follow-up) update offline circ manifest <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=58432 16:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #1534 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:15 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #136: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/136/ 16:15 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9294 - Move JavaScript out of circulation template 16:15 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9294: Followup : add missing lines. 16:15 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10884: circulation table: fix odd behavior on checkboxes 16:16 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10935: fix breakage of CSV acq exports when using a non-English translation 16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9294 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Move JavaScript out of circulation template 16:16 jenkins_koha * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10935: (follow-up) adding a line break to fix first list item 16:16 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) add test case 16:16 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10535: (follow-up) wrap Budgets.t in transaction 16:16 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10038: fix doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type 16:16 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10038: (follow-up) fix tabs 16:16 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10850 - give quick spine label template page its own ID 16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10884 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Circulation table: odd behavior on checkboxes 16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10935 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CSV for basket and basketgroup are broken when translated 16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10535 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , by default sort funds by name 16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10038 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Doubled 'default' entry when creating a new authority type 16:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10850 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Give Quick spine label template page its own id 16:20 * cait waves :) 16:21 * francharb waves back ;) 16:21 cait :) 16:21 cait gmcharlt: ok, then i will make it mandatory next time before passing qa .9 16:21 gmcharlt cool 16:21 cait .9 = :) when missing shift on my german keyboard.... 16:21 gmcharlt heh 16:22 * druthb waves to cait and gmcharlt and francharb 16:22 francharb :) 16:22 cait hi druthb 16:23 cait having tea in my favourite bookstore with free wifi and cake :D 16:25 cait talljoy: i always read that as D&D 16:25 cait what does it really mean? 16:25 talljoy do not disturb. 16:25 talljoy i was just saying i read it as D&D too 16:26 * mtompset laughs, "I've had that thought in passing in the past too, cait." 16:26 mtompset Greetings, cait talljoy #koha 16:26 talljoy hi mtompset 16:29 cait talljoy: well you better not disturb someone playing dungeons and dragons 16:29 talljoy lol 16:30 cait especially the dragons... 16:31 * talljoy rolls her 12 sided die 16:39 cait 12-sided??? 16:39 cait :) 16:40 cait what kind of weapon is that? :) 16:40 cait ok, couldn#t resist, just ignore me :) 16:48 talljoy do you use a die in d&D? 16:48 talljoy i just guessed, i could be way wrong. 16:48 * talljoy played with dolls as a youngster 16:49 jcamins cait: it's used in the mathnet D&D for the dodecagonal dagger. 16:49 cait talljoy: yep lots of dice 16:49 cait jcamins. ... 16:50 jcamins Apparently no one who isn't related to me knew about mathnet. 16:50 cait jcamins: and thx for the mackerel update 16:50 cait :) 16:50 jcamins cait: it was excellent. 16:50 cait jcamins: i bought tons of the chocolate i gave you in reno for xmas - good or bad idea? 16:50 jcamins Depends. 16:50 cait uhoh 16:50 cait on what? 16:50 jcamins If you have to give it away, bad idea. 16:50 jcamins Otherwise, brilliant! 16:51 jcamins Mmm... unless you're giving it to me, in which case, still brilliant. 16:51 cait it's for presents... but i hope the family will share a bit 16:52 cait killed the app ... maybe it doesn't like chocolate? :) 16:53 cait nengard: around? 16:53 nengard yes 16:53 cait the notices tab shows the overdues :) 16:53 cait or did you mean the postal ones? 16:53 nengard no ... i mean email ones 16:53 cait it shoudl 16:53 nengard i'm not seeing them for any of our partner sites ... 16:53 cait it just picks every message for the borrower from the message queue table 16:53 cait hm it used to in 3.6 - i am very sure of that 16:53 nengard overdues don't go in to th emessage queue table 16:53 nengard i don't think 16:53 cait we only recently updated to 3.12, no complaints so far 16:53 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #248: UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/248/ 16:54 jenkins_koha * Blou: Bug 11035: Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js 16:54 jenkins_koha * Blou: Bug 11035: (follow-up) update offline circ manifest 16:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11035: (follow-up) move shortcut.js 16:54 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11035: (follow-up) update licenses section 16:54 cait they go there 16:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11035 normal, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Pushed to Master , Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js 16:54 nengard hmmmm 16:54 cait all our libraries are sending out overdues... and it's a sensitive spot 16:54 cait i woudl have commented on the bug... but tablet... and not logged in... and meh. :) 16:55 cait it#s how i test a lot too - if you don't have any in message_queue maybe something is wrong with config or how the job was run 16:55 nengard alright i'm poking at a bunch of sites to see if I can find them 16:55 cait they can have any letter code 16:56 cait maybe some of them changed it 16:57 nengard cait are you saying the letter code has to be ODUE for it to show? 16:57 cait nope the letter code shouldn't matter 16:57 nengard Cause I'm looking at the third library site now that has overdues enabled and no overdues in the notices tab 16:57 cait just when you check, it might be they are not using ODUE at all but some etter codes they made up 16:58 nengard I'm not looking at the db ... I'm looking at the Notices tab on the patron records and I see hold notices, advanced notices, item due notices .... but no overdue notices 16:58 nengard ever 16:58 cait hmm 16:58 cait i can#t test right now :( 16:58 nengard k 16:58 cait away from home and the laptop 16:58 nengard no prob 16:58 cait i hope it didn't change... i can try test a little later maybe 16:59 nengard FINALLY 16:59 nengard I found one 16:59 nengard but the notices were sent in 2011 16:59 nengard still none that are recent 16:59 nengard finding more 17:01 francharb nengard, on the patron records, at the notices tab 17:01 nengard yes, i found one 17:01 francharb you'll never have the overdue option 17:01 francharb unless something changed lately 17:02 nengard so many differring opinions :) 17:02 nengard I see an overdue notice on the notices tab for a patron I just found 17:02 nengard first one I ever saw 17:02 francharb oh sorry 17:02 francharb I know what you mean 17:03 francharb it shows which notices has been sent to the patron, right? 17:03 mtompset @seen marcelr 17:03 huginn mtompset: marcelr was last seen in #koha 1 day, 8 hours, 55 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <marcelr> not sure, could be :) 17:04 * mtompset whistles as data transfer occurs. :) 17:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #249 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #247 16 hr ago) 17:04 cait i looked at the code now - that works from here :) and it looks like the sql just goes to the message queue table and selects all for a given patron number 17:05 cait francharb: it doesn#t work for printed, only for email 17:05 francharb yes 17:06 francharb but I was referring to the table with every notices a patron can receive 17:06 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5031: (follow-up) correct tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b695517a6b98720ee300ba21280ee2f8139a796> / Bug 5031: CSV profiles: validate required content fields <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c5278270708724808b3585dc798e9300abeed31> 17:12 magnuse @later tell rangi: https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=90849#txn-1297943 & https://github.com/LibreCat/Catmandu-MARC/commit/f0308ba0b595d1bcc0e0bf32f20412f7daa2b5aa :-) 17:12 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 17:16 gmcharlt @later tell khall I'd appreciate an eye on my latest comment on bug 2546 17:16 huginn gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. 17:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #28 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #28: SUCCESS in 22 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/28/ 17:34 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update HighlightOwnItemsOnOPACWhich 17:34 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update autoBarcode 17:34 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: remove Encumbrance and Expenditure since they're hidden 17:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #70 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #70: SUCCESS in 19 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/70/ 17:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update autoBarcode 17:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: remove Encumbrance and Expenditure since they're hidden 17:36 jenkins_koha Starting build #398 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #398: SUCCESS in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/398/ 17:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update HighlightOwnItemsOnOPACWhich 17:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update autoBarcode 17:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add new fund warnings 17:41 reiveune bye 17:52 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #249: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/249/ 17:52 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5031: CSV profiles: validate required content fields 17:52 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 5031: (follow-up) correct tabs 17:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5031 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CSV export profile form doesn't indicate that profile marcfields are required 17:54 cait back from a real computer:) 18:08 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1534: SUCCESS in 2 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1534/ 18:08 jenkins_koha * Blou: Bug 11035: Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js 18:08 jenkins_koha * Blou: Bug 11035: (follow-up) update offline circ manifest 18:08 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11035: (follow-up) move shortcut.js 18:08 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11035: (follow-up) update licenses section 18:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11035 normal, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Pushed to Master , Replace shortcut plugin jquery.hotkeys.min.js 18:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #1535 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:31 magnuse druthb! cait! 18:31 cait magnuse! 18:31 wahanui it has been said that magnuse is a Norwegian giant. 18:32 magnuse muharharhar! 18:32 cait heh 19:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #137 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:23 cait bug 8368 19:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8368 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , List email broken for non english templates 19:25 rangi http://grooveshark.com/#!/ranginui/broadcast <-- radio #koha 19:26 cait morning rangi 19:26 rangi morning 19:29 rangi now you can all listen to what im listening too, and suggest/add songs etc :) 19:29 cait no grooveshark in germany :( 19:29 rangi big media and the govt lackeys are such dicks 19:32 rangi coffee time, brb 19:36 rangi back 19:37 gaetan_B bye ! 19:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #137: SUCCESS in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/137/ 19:49 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10298: Followup: Adapt existing code 19:49 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10298: Mock C4::Context->preference 19:49 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10843: fix crash that can occur when confirming hold if ReservesMaxPickUpDelay is undefined 19:49 jenkins_koha * Frédéric Demians: Bug 8368: fix email lists from OPAC when using non-English templates 19:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10298 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , t::lib::Mocks tries to deal with syspref but doesn not manage to 19:49 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) port change to the Bootstrap OPAC; restore ISBN display 19:49 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 8368: (follow-up) restore use of quoted printable for message body 19:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10843 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , print a slip can cause an error 19:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8368 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , List email broken for non english templates 19:51 cait tcohen is busy :) 19:51 cait hm i wonder 19:51 * magnuse remembers that he is supposed to upgrade to 3.12.7 round about now 19:52 cait tcohen is still picking form master, right? because 3.14 is not maintained currently? 19:53 rambutan I didn't even know there was music in the world like that. 19:54 rangi cait: yep, 19:54 rangi well not maintained by the elected maintainer 19:54 rangi gmcharlt has pushed some things to it 19:55 cait hm 19:55 cait not so good. 19:57 * gmcharlt gets out the Stick of Poking 19:58 pablito hi everyone 19:58 * cait gets out ... the cookie jar 19:58 pablito haha 19:58 cait if you shake that, will the developers come out? 19:58 cait it works with cats and their treats... 19:59 pablito or knock, knock ... :-) 20:00 * gmcharlt suddenly has an unaccountable urge to get tickets and fly to Germany 20:00 cait *muahah* :) 20:00 cait you totally should oen day :) 20:00 pablito will Koha give an error if the author field is empty for a book? 20:01 pablito especially on import 20:01 cait nope 20:01 cait it won't complain if you leave the title empty even... but it will not look really nice 20:03 * magnuse remembers to change from squeeze to oldstable before the upgrade 20:03 pablito thanks! I love coming to this channel 20:05 magnuse yeah, there are some awesome people in here! 20:06 mtompset 3.14 isn't maintained?! 20:07 mtompset We don't have an RM for 3.14.x? 20:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1535: SUCCESS in 1 hr 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1535/ 20:07 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 5031: CSV profiles: validate required content fields 20:07 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 5031: (follow-up) correct tabs 20:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5031 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , CSV export profile form doesn't indicate that profile marcfields are required 20:09 cait mtompset: we have 20:09 cait an Rmaint elected 20:13 magnuse 10 minutes to upgrade 18 installations, not too bad (most of the time spent updating 6 translations) 20:13 magnuse packages++ 20:15 cait :) 20:18 mtompset Indeed! Yay for packages. 20:22 mtompset How is history.txt maintained? 20:28 wizzyrea by hand. 20:28 cait by sending patches for it 20:37 rangi be rangi 20:37 wahanui There's a bug for that 20:37 rangi be rangi 20:37 wahanui There's a bug for that 20:37 rangi be rangi 20:37 wahanui There's a bug for that 20:37 rangi bug 7143 20:37 wahanui bug 7143 is, like, ready for an easy signoff 20:37 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 20:37 rangi be rangi 20:37 wahanui There's a bug for that 20:37 rangi i wish its random was not so random 20:38 cait be cait 20:39 cait be rangi 20:39 wahanui Send a patch! 20:39 tcohen ok! 20:39 rangi heh 20:39 gmcharlt be gmcharlt 20:39 wahanui Here, kitty kitty kitty... 20:40 cait be cait? 20:40 wahanui hmpf. 20:41 cait :) 20:41 cait be cait 20:41 cait wahanui! 20:41 wahanui i am a bot 20:41 cait be wahanui 20:41 wahanui Look at me! I'm a bot! Beep beep! Boop boop! 20:48 mtompset be tcohen 20:48 mtompset Good, you aren't predictable enough yet, tcohen. ;) 20:49 mtompset I was just pondering tcohen's email about the notion of a "is my version EOL? are there newer versions?" added to the about. 20:50 mtompset Release history could be pretty to graph, but extrapolating EOL seems kind of difficult. 20:57 tcohen hi mtompset 20:58 tcohen it has to get its data from a live place 20:58 mtompset We don't have a live place with the data in a currently easily re-usable format, do we? 20:59 tcohen maybe the community site's rss feed 21:00 cait hm what about the packages? 21:00 cait it could check for packages with new version number maybe 21:00 cait not sure if that's a dumb idea :) 21:01 gmcharlt cait: the few RHEL users of Koha out there might be offended ;) 21:01 cait hmm 21:02 mtompset where is the community site's rss feed? 21:05 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/feed/ 21:06 tcohen we have two fronts: people installing from packages and from source 21:07 tcohen with the current packages pocket schema, everyone will be offered to upgrade 21:07 mtompset wizzyrea: How would I know that? I don't see that funky RSS symbol anywhere on the koha-community.org site. 21:08 wizzyrea file a bug if it bothers you. 21:09 mtompset It just seems silly to have functionality, but no mention of it visibly. 21:09 wizzyrea see above ;) 21:09 wizzyrea it's wordpress, it does it whether you want it to or not 21:10 mtompset file a bug where? 21:11 wizzyrea on bugzilla. 22:01 tcohen jcamins? 22:01 wahanui it has been said that jcamins is the best cookie-chef in #koha. 22:02 tcohen bug 10957 22:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10957 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , 710$a with 710$b (subordinate unit) present shows wrong (XSLT) 22:02 tcohen cait around? 22:02 cait partially :) 22:03 tcohen do u remember that bug? is a really simple one 22:04 tcohen i remember jcamins told me to leave those -- 22:09 cait tcohen: i just wondered because result list and detail page seem inconsistent 22:10 cait also some subfields are noted as repeatable, but i think the code doens't always loop through them 22:10 tcohen oh, that's why it is F-QA 22:11 tcohen i think i covered that in the code... 22:13 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "if there's at least one $b use ". ", then loop" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/11 22:14 cait tcohen: the output on rsults is different than on the detail page 22:14 cait could you check that? 22:14 cait i have added an example in my comments on what i did 22:17 tcohen I'll try to remember what was this about actually 22:17 francharb bye! 22:17 tcohen i dont' remmebber changing the current behaviour besides managing to put a dot 22:17 tcohen or a dot and a space in some other case 22:17 tcohen heh 22:17 cait hm 22:18 cait maybe i misunderstood - but it owuld help if one of us understands how it works :) 22:18 cait i am too tired to make sense of it i think :) 22:23 tcohen heh 22:23 tcohen tomorrow at work i'll revisit the patch and the purpose, i have a ticket from one library asking for that fix 22:24 tcohen they took the time to explain it better 22:24 cait thx :) 22:24 tcohen heh 22:28 * mtompset waves at tcohen. 22:30 mtompset Needs to run. 22:30 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha. 22:31 eythian hi 22:32 cait hi eythian 22:34 tcohen hi eythian 22:34 eythian hello cait, tcohen 22:43 trea hey #koha does patron category get transmitted in a sip2 transaction? 22:44 trea is that what the "AA" field is? 22:47 rangi yeah its one of the fields 22:48 wizzyrea hm I see type but not category code 22:48 cait hm 22:48 cait what would a self check do with it? 22:48 rangi sell it 22:49 cait always so optimistic :) 22:49 rangi i dunno, they do all sorts of utterly ridiculous things 22:49 cait i mean it's an ILS specific thing 22:49 trea what would a self check do with category code cait? or you talking about something else 22:49 cait i am not sure what a self check would use it for 22:49 rangi sip is not just for selfchecks 22:49 rangi hasnt been for a long time 22:49 rangi its been extended for all sorts of stuff 22:49 trea right. in this case it's not a selfcheck, but rather another mad scheme 22:49 rangi mostly cos proprietary ils have no api 22:50 wizzyrea computer reservation systems, for example 22:50 rangi and thats the only way you can talk to them 22:50 rangi overdrive 22:50 wahanui overdrive is evil. 22:50 rangi etc 22:50 wizzyrea might give different amounts of time to different patron categories 22:50 rangi yeah 22:50 cait hmmok 22:50 wizzyrea what's the basic problem you're trying to solve trea? 22:51 rangi thats what the extensions stuff is for 22:51 wizzyrea i mean, what is the library trying to implement? 22:52 trea sorry to be ambiguous. they want to be able to restrict access based on category code, which i'm just trying to verify if that's currently even transmitted. 22:52 trea it's for an ebook program (not overdrive) 22:54 * wizzyrea just always looks for the essential problem is all 22:54 wizzyrea in that case, yea they probably do need it 22:55 * cait agrees 22:56 rangi FID_PATRON_CLASS 22:56 rangi FID_PATRON_CLASS => 'PC', 22:56 rangi # SIP Extensions used by Envisionware Terminals 22:56 rangi FID_PATRON_BIRTHDATE => 'PB', 22:56 rangi FID_PATRON_CLASS => 'PC', 22:56 rangi so PC is what you want to look for trea 22:57 rambutan It can also be used to grant access to the Internet for public access computing. We use it with Userful for that purpose now. 22:57 trea aha - ok 22:57 trea rangi where are you looking for this, so i can stop asking if they exist ;) 22:58 gmcharlt $resp .= maybe_add(FID_PATRON_CLASS, $patron->ptype); 22:58 gmcharlt C4/Sip/MsgType.pm 22:58 rangi i look in C4/SIP/Sip/Constants.pm 22:59 gmcharlt in turn, line 71 of C4/SIP/ILS/Patron.pm is where we see that categorycode is indeed what is getting used to populate that 22:59 rangi yep 22:59 rangi i find the message first, then grep for it 23:01 trea and i do see in fact that that code is being transmitted. thanks all 23:01 rangi cool 23:01 trea rangi++ wizzyrea++ gmcharlt++ 23:02 rangi if you asked that about NCIP 23:02 rangi id have to get back to you in 3 weeks time 23:02 trea hehe 23:02 rangi even though im writing it, its so verbose you have to wade through a ton of stuff to find it 23:02 trea you're not making me feel hopeful for the future rangi :P 23:03 rangi heh its not the future 23:03 rangi ncip is the past :) 23:03 rangi the future is a lot better 23:03 rangi we just have to move libraries about 15 years out of the past, to now .. even now is better :) 23:04 rangi its not next gen, its "only 12 instead of 13 gens ago" tech ;-) 23:05 wizzyrea kek next gen. 23:05 rangi we should make tshirts 23:05 rangi "Your next gen, is my last millenium" 23:06 trea hehe 23:12 dcook wizzyrea: Do you recall what bug it was that fixed the issue where searching in the system preferences stripped out words from the preferences? 23:12 wizzyrea errr 23:12 wizzyrea that doesn't sound familiar to me... not sure what you mean? 23:12 dcook Ah, I thought that I talked to you about it a while ago. Maybe not. 23:13 dcook Well, in older versions of Koha (like 3.8), if you search for "user" in the system preferences, it will strip the word "user" out of your opacuserjs, opacusercss, etc. 23:13 dcook Which is problematic if you're using the id "usersuggestions" 23:13 dcook It would be truncated to "suggestions" 23:13 wizzyrea bug 9404 23:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9404 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Search of global system preferences deletes css and js code on Save 23:14 dcook You are the best 23:14 dcook wizzyrea++ 23:14 wizzyrea well bug 8401 actually 23:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8401 critical, P3, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED FIXED, Search term deleted from system preference content 23:14 dcook wizzyrea++ 23:14 dcook More karma! 23:15 * wizzyrea is happy to help 23:16 wizzyrea that's a stinky bug. 23:16 dcook It really really is 23:17 dcook Such an easy fix too 23:17 dcook Hmm, I really need to start using advanced search more... 23:17 dcook The problems I encounter have almost always been fixed already 23:18 * dcook also takes this as a sign that upgrading is a goooood idea 23:18 wizzyrea i find that on things pre-3.12 too, generally 23:35 tcohen hi rangi 23:36 * dcook waves to tcohen 23:36 dcook Congratulations, btw ;) 23:36 tcohen is it possible to get CC or at least get notified when a bug is filled for some specific category. like, say, "Packages" 23:36 tcohen thanks dcook and hi :-D 23:45 cait tcohen: i think yes, but not sure if you can sign up for a module yourself 23:45 tcohen thanks cait, i'll write rangi later