Time  Nick         Message
22:20 magnuse      guten nacht, #koha
22:17 eythian      bye cait
22:17 cait         good night all :)
22:09 wahanui      hello cait are you here?
22:09 eythian      hello cait
22:08 cait         hi eythian :)
22:07 eythian      hi
22:01 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11308 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , RSS feed is slightly broken in bootstrap theme
22:01 mtompset     Oops.. bug 11308
22:00 jcamins      magnuse: yeah.
22:00 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11038 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Enable use of IntranetUserCSS and intranetcolorstylesheet on staff client login page
22:00 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha. I tested and signed off bug 11038 for you, rangi.
22:00 magnuse      oh noes?
21:59 cait         and hi jcamins
21:59 cait         ugh?
21:59 jcamins      Huh. Apparently nginx's license changed, and they pulled an Oracle?
21:59 mtompset     Well, I think that's the signal to go.
21:20 magnuse      metacpan seems to point to https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist/Display.html?Name=Catmandu-MARC
21:19 magnuse      weird, it looks like issues and comments are turned off on https://github.com/LibreCat/Catmandu-MARC
21:17 magnuse      yay!
21:17 rangi        :)
21:17 rangi        sometime
21:16 rangi        ill file an issue and offer to do a patch if its a feature they want to add
21:15 magnuse      sounds like that is a bit above my level of incompetence
21:14 rangi        :)
21:13 magnuse      yeah, please feel free to do that ;-)
21:13 rangi        just to make it a bit nicer
21:13 rangi        then fall back to STDIN
21:13 rangi        maybe we could even send a patch to allow file=> or blob=>
21:12 rangi        i reckon we can get round that
21:12 magnuse      ah, ok
21:12 rangi        Create a new MARC importer for $filename. Use STDIN when no filename is given
21:11 rangi        magnuse: a file is just a special pipe :)
21:11 rangi        ill finish that tonight i hope (thats all bugs needing signoff)
21:11 magnuse      looks like Catmandu::Importer::MARC can only read from a file, though. or i'm missing something
21:10 rangi        ive almost got the claiming thing working (click on a bug)
21:10 rangi        http://dashboard.koha-community.org/taskboard#
21:10 rangi        :)
21:10 magnuse      cait: all good :-)
21:09 magnuse      rangi: i'll see how exciting the talks tomorrow are :-)
21:09 rangi        :)
21:09 cait         magnuse: how is it going?
21:09 rangi        https://gitorious.org/koha-marc2rdf
21:09 * cait       waves at magnuse
21:08 rangi        awesome you could totally fork my repo and change it to do that :)
21:08 magnuse      rangi: here's a tiny poc of converting marc to rdf with catmandu: https://gist.github.com/MagnusEnger/7658143
21:07 rangi        heh
21:07 nengard      thanks jcamins
21:06 * magnuse    pokes his head in - in german
21:06 jcamins      tools/export.pl --format=marc --record-type=bibs --filename=/my/export/file
21:04 nengard      is there a way to do a marc export from the command line? for some reason the GUI tool isn't getting me everything
20:59 mtompset     date formatting and handling is a pain to trace.
20:59 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
20:52 wizzyrea     \o/
20:52 rangi        ad even
20:52 rangi        apparently there was a full page add in the NYT about the nz rugby team
20:51 gmcharlt     just in one-point type up in the corner, which is why you've never noticed it
20:48 rangi        heh
20:48 gmcharlt     ;)
20:48 gmcharlt     this is why I contract with the New York Times for my missives to be published on the front page every day
20:46 nengard      nope ... i think not
20:45 rambutan     ^eyebrows^
20:37 rangi        i dont think that mail was supposed to go to the list
20:37 rangi        oops
20:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11307 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Potential XSS attack vector in opac rss feed
20:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11307: (follow-up) apply fix to bootstrap theme (master and 3.14.x only)
20:21 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11307: Fix potential XSS attack in public catalog RSS feed
20:21 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1525: SUCCESS in 2 hr 1 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1525/
20:13 wizzyrea     and actually, koha-community.org has been pretty quiet for days now.
19:53 mtompset     Well, this is crazy. Off to hunt the problem down.
19:50 mtompset     blip again? I blame Bell Canada. :P
19:46 mtompset     blip? Okay.
19:27 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11307 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Potential XSS attack vector in opac rss feed
19:27 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11307: (follow-up) apply fix to bootstrap theme (master and 3.14.x only)
19:27 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11307: Fix potential XSS attack in public catalog RSS feed
19:27 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #237: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/237/
18:56 nengard      :p
18:56 nengard      hmmmm
18:56 druthb       shhh…gotta quit talking about nengard..she's here.
18:53 rangi        deb even
18:49 rangi        (or just the config actually, the code is all in the .db :-))
18:49 Shane-S      alright, about time I got a backup :)
18:48 rangi        which is the code and config
18:48 rangi        and a tar
18:48 rangi        there will be a .sql.gz which is the db
18:48 Shane-S      ty
18:48 rangi        /var/spool/koha/instancename/
18:47 Shane-S      where does koha-dump dump the files?
18:42 cait         maybe later, i need to rest my head for a bit
18:42 mtompset     It is now signed off, if anyone wants to QA it. ;)
18:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11308 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , RSS feed is slightly broken in bootstrap theme
18:37 cait         and apache-- again
18:37 mtompset     I'm looking at the followup bug 11308
18:37 cait         rangi++ mtompset++ ashimema++ gmcharlt++
18:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #237 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:32 ebegin       thanks guys. I'll check why
18:29 rambutan     time for lunch
18:29 wahanui      i haven't a clue, rambutan
18:29 rambutan     wahanui: did you actually check, or are you just saying that?
18:28 wahanui      hmmm... koha-community.org is actually updated and right
18:28 mtompset     koha-community.org?
18:27 mtompset     http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/koha-community.org
18:27 ebegin       rangi, hmmm, mtompset, can you access koha-community.org ?
18:27 rangi        ebegin: not for me
18:27 rambutan     no
18:26 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11307: (follow-up) apply fix to bootstrap theme (master and 3.14.x only) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=803789f13b09fc3429f41f6a647e8fdaa2d20772> / Bug 11307: Fix potential XSS attack in public catalog RSS feed <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f0d4153dfb8f85ab2b41c1e2780d4171c00e4ee>
18:26 ebegin       Hi everyone, Is koha-community.org down ?
18:26 rangi        that people do it
18:26 rangi        however we should strongly recommend
18:26 mtompset     oh right. :(
18:26 rangi        and that they can be anywhere
18:25 gmcharlt     there's the little problem that proper certs cost money
18:25 rangi        pretty much cant
18:25 mtompset     So why don't we get Koha to install that way by default?
18:25 rangi        for everything
18:25 rangi        no real reason not to these days
18:24 rangi        yep, all our new ones are, and we are retrofitting our old ones
18:24 cait         all of our koha installations...
18:24 cait         all hours are https too, both staff and opac
18:24 rangi        1 hour 20mins, from patch to pushed
18:23 rangi        gmcharlt++
18:23 rangi        mtompset++
18:23 rangi        ashimema++
18:22 rangi        yeah, our default stance is https everything
18:22 jenkins_koha Starting build #1525 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:21 druthb       One less (insecure) moving part is a Good Thing.
18:21 mtompset     We used to have a proxy server which would map our HTTPS requests to HTTP requests when it sent it to the Koha VM, but since we are in the midst of switching providers, I've thrown out the proxy server part, and just done straight HTTPS.
18:19 mtompset     And I've made our Koha run on HTTPS via apache tweaks.
18:18 mtompset     We use StartSSL certificates. :)
18:16 cait         hi druthb :)
18:15 druthb       hi, cait!
18:15 * cait       waves
18:02 druthb       ugh
18:01 Shane-S      yeah, no static IP here, I just refresh the DNS record with the new IP as it is issued
18:01 druthb       Usually, yes.
18:01 Shane-S      I also have to purchase a static IP for SSL do I not?
17:59 druthb       good.
17:59 Shane-S      sorry 22
17:58 druthb       Just because the librarian doesn't log in from outside, doesn't mean that the bad guys aren't.  If they can, and they want to, they will.    And 23?  *shudder*
17:58 Shane-S      So I never persued securing it beyond only allowing 80/8080 and 23 access
17:56 Shane-S      druthb: I am not arguing the point, we just never has any "outside" log ins right now. I had planned on it, but it was too much for my 60yr old librarian used to 1 station to process/handle
17:55 druthb       (I'm not even the most-paranoid person associated with our security team.  Not even close.)
17:54 druthb       I'll amend my prior statement, based on what I've learned about security on my current job.  If your Koha system is running, and the server has a wire plugged into the network interface, and COUNT(SELECT * FROM borrowers) > 0, then you need SSL, at least.
17:54 rambutan     StartSSL offers free certificates for non-commercial use. I understand EFF uses them. http://startssl.com
17:52 druthb       *shudder*.  Then someone else could sniff my login, and get at my library records.  Not cool.
17:52 Shane-S      so I could get it with wireshark or other tools
17:52 Shane-S      druthb: yep, and your login would not be encrypted
17:52 druthb       (If the answer is yes, then more attention to security is needed.)
17:50 druthb       Fair 'nuf.  If there's absolutely no way for anyone to access it —at all— that shouldn't be, then you're probably okay without a certificate.  But if I found a domain name, could I get to an OPAC or staff interface from where I am?
17:49 wahanui      okay, Shane-S.
17:49 Shane-S      druthb: The server is also behind a Firewall and Reverse Proxy
17:49 Shane-S      druthb: because the librarian doesn't even use the patron online access. Since you can't identify someone via a name (all we have in the system) no need for the expense.
17:48 druthb       Shane-S:  Why on earth would you *not* spend the $20 or so to get a certificate?  It's really cheap protection for every patron you have.
17:48 rambutan     yea, schools have lots of stuff they have to do. I probably couldn't put up with it.
17:47 druthb       That actually makes some sense, rambutan.  You'd have to do some sort of API treachery, since it's stored in the database, and not just a file you could link to.
17:47 Shane-S      I am located in NJ, and we have a Student Information Privacy & Protection Act
17:46 Shane-S      rambutan: that we don't use SSL/HTTPS connections to the server. As I read the laws we have the server must carry a valid encryption certificate, which I don't do/need.
17:46 rambutan     and the logic extension of that would be to pull their image from the ILS to help confirm their credentials
17:45 rambutan     and pull their ILS info, like name, age, etc, so see if a patron that appears to be 11 y.o. is using a card issued to a 41 y.o.
17:44 rambutan     and we're writing our own PAC. So in doing so we're discussing how nice it would be for staff to be able to click on the library card of a logged in user....
17:44 druthb       ah…so when they come to reserve, you'd like to see the pic, like you can at the circ desk.
17:44 rambutan     So our staff has problems with kids using each other's library cards or their parents cards for internet access...
17:43 rambutan     OK, glad you asked!
17:43 druthb       that, maybe, or put a link to it in the SIP message.  but it sounds like a @quote get 123 to me..  why would you want to?
17:42 rambutan     humm, pull via API?
17:41 druthb       I would think not; that would increase the size of the SIP message beyond its' limit, even for a small image.
17:40 rambutan     Anybody know offhand if SIP can pull patron images? (I would guess not).
17:38 rambutan     Shane-S: what constitutes "unsecured"? Where are you located?
17:36 cait         bye all
17:36 * cait       should be home already
17:36 Shane-S      Yeah...we also have other laws to consider here, as a school. We can't hold any student demographics on an unsecured server that is connected to the internet
17:34 rambutan     CIPA addresses Internet access
17:34 rambutan     well, I wouldn't think cipa would apply to the data the library holds on the child, after all, we have name, address, DOB, etc.
17:34 Shane-S      sorry CIPA: http://www.fcc.gov/guides/childrens-internet-protection-act (not sure if it applies at all, but can't hurt to check)
17:32 Shane-S      rambutan: cippa laws in the USA might restrict the youth photos
17:31 rambutan     do libraries that use patron images generally require them of all card holders, adults only, youth only, or something else?
17:30 rangi        bbiab
17:30 rangi        and now its time for me to actually wake up
17:30 rangi        thanks
17:30 ashimema     I'm hapy now.. will throw the qa scripts at it just for good habbit.. but I'm doubting they'll throw any nasties.
17:29 rangi        ah sweet
17:29 ashimema     I was viewing the source but via chrome's developer panel.. if you view source manually then it works out fine.
17:29 rangi        if you apply 11308 first, then it, it behaves more like prog theme :)
17:28 rangi        make sure you check the source, cos without patch 11308 it does weird things anyway
17:28 ashimema     ooh.. It's chrome being overly clever..
17:27 ashimema     one sec.. just rechecking the patch actually applied
17:26 rangi        i see <opensearch:itemsPerPage>50&quot;'&lt;h1&gt;test&lt;/h1&gt;</opensearch:itemsPerPage>
17:26 rangi        i must admit i didnt test bootstrap side very thoroughly, its not escaping the html?
17:24 ashimema     I tihnk I can still see the security issue in the bootstrap patch rangi..
17:20 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11308 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , RSS feed is slightly broken in bootstrap theme
17:20 rangi        bug 11308
17:17 rangi        fixed that too now :)
17:15 mtompset     True.
17:14 rangi        but thats a different problem
17:14 rangi        i think the whole rss is kinda busted in bootstrap
17:10 mtompset     Don't even need to look at page source.
17:09 mtompset     YUCK! It's much more visible in the bootstrap.
17:09 ashimema     brill.. I'll go ahead and qa it as requested
17:09 rangi        thanks mtompset
17:08 mtompset     Just finished.
17:08 ashimema     so mtompset.. did you test bootstrap in the end or not?
17:07 rangi        cos sending potential security issues to the main list = not the best
17:07 gmcharlt     git bz attach -e 12345 HEAD^^^..HEAD
17:07 rangi        and send that
17:07 rangi        we should use this to write a responsible disclosure page
17:07 gmcharlt     also, you can do ranges with git bz
17:07 rangi        however
17:07 rangi        me either
17:07 gmcharlt     rangi: yeah, I don't think it's worth cutting a special security release
17:05 mtompset     Oops... need to test bootstrap.
17:05 cait         i have to sort that out first or go home and test there
17:05 ashimema     sure
17:05 cait         i have really problems with apache and that installation i have here at work
17:04 cait         ashimema: coudl you do qa?
17:03 ashimema     If I'd have spotted this a few minute earlier... was just testing that patch ;)  All your though mtopmset as seems your slightly ahead of me
17:01 rangi        and then HEAD
17:01 rangi        so HEAD^
17:01 rangi        i attach a patch at a time
17:00 mtompset     git so 2. done. git bz attach what?
17:00 mtompset     okay... so how do I attach the two patches and not just the one patch?
17:00 * mtompset   agrees.
17:00 rangi        so fixing it cant hurt
16:59 rangi        but displaying unescaped user input is never a good idea
16:59 rangi        im not sure that you can actually do xss with it
16:59 mtompset     This is the part that is annoyingly complex.
16:58 mtompset     Now to sign this sucker off.
16:58 mtompset     Okay... patch works according to test plan.
16:57 * mtompset   laughs.
16:56 mtompset     I was only expecting one attachment.
16:56 mtompset     Hmmm...
16:55 gmcharlt     rangi: noted
16:54 huginn       rangi: The operation succeeded.
16:54 rangi        @later tell gmcharlt bug 11307
16:54 cait         fixing my search
16:54 cait         ah , thought oleonard had signed off, waiting for you mtompset
16:53 rangi        bootstrap patch attached too
16:52 rangi        mtompset: if you could that would be great
16:51 cait         hope i can get search working on the dev env but it might work without
16:51 cait         rangi: going to qa now
16:51 mtompset     is someone signing it off, or shall I?
16:51 Shane-S      would adding "alt" text to the Koha link (where it says "Powered by Koha") like Koha v3.X.X work and be hard to do to check your version at a glance?
16:46 reiveune     bye
16:46 oleonard     I must leave, so maybe someone can submit a follow-up for the Bootstrap theme?
16:45 rangi        cait: if i left it on, yep it does on certain mailing lists
16:41 rangi        it should take you about 2 mins to test :)
16:41 rangi        but its simple to stop so i have
16:41 rangi        and cant easily be exploited
16:41 cait         your computer wakes you up for security issues?
16:41 rangi        its only in the the rss
16:41 oleonard     A bug so nice they reported it twice
16:40 rangi        security mails make my computer beep
16:40 rangi        its not as bad as it seems
16:40 cait         why are you awake?
16:40 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11307 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Potential XSS attack vector in opac rss feed
16:40 cait         oh right,... the security thing :(
16:40 rangi        can someone please sign off bug 11307
16:40 cait         0dayed?
16:40 rangi        right since someone 0dayed us on the main koha list
16:34 cait         only later, i was waiting for a sign off so i coudl do qa - but can only try to reproduce a little later
16:34 cait         can't right now :(
16:33 oleonard     Did you test it successfully cait?
16:33 oleonard     Tried multiple dateformat sysprefs
16:33 cait         dateformat syspref?
16:33 cait         oleonard: is it a new user? no previous restrictions? maybe there is some difference between the users you are both testing with?
16:32 Shane-S      I had to hard-reboot, as the console wouldn't even give me a prompt to type at
16:31 Shane-S      I also upped the memory from 2Gb to 4Gb
16:31 Shane-S      any idea what could cause that? I just ran a sudo apt-get update / upgrade in the event of any patches fixing that
16:31 Shane-S      Hi all, weird issue, my server was down, and when I SSH'ed in, it was so slow it timed out my login, luckily its a VM, so I connected to the machine's terminal through VMWare, to be greeted with out of memory errors and printslip.pl in the ()
16:15 oleonard     Wait here's something else: Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/borrower_debarments.inc line 46
16:11 khall        oleonard: yes, that error is indeed unrelated. I'm not sure where to go from here. I can't reproduce your problem!
16:10 khall        user/pass: test/test
16:10 khall        oleonard: it seems to be working fine in a sandbox as well: http://pro.test6.biblibre.com/cgi-bin/koha/circ/circulation.pl?borrowernumber=19
16:07 oleonard     It saves the restriction without the date
16:07 oleonard     The only error looks unrelated: Use of uninitialized value $_ in hash element at members/memberentry.pl line 825
16:06 khall        does it save the restriction, just without the date?
16:05 khall        oleonard: anything show up in your error log?
16:05 oleonard     Testing on master, not in a sandbox
16:05 khall        have you tried it in a sandbox?
16:05 khall        are you testing on master?
16:04 oleonard     Sorry khall, it really doesn't work for me
16:01 khall        cait: oleonard: http://screencast.com/t/LjSyPIsw
15:57 khall        owen: I can't reproduce your problem!
15:50 cait         khall++ :)
15:50 khall        cait: I'm on it!
15:50 cait         oleonard: i really want to see that one fixed, it's a bit scary with the overwriting of data
15:49 oleonard     Sure. Hopefully only a simply follow-up is required
15:49 cait         khall: 11282 needs you! :P
15:49 cait         oleonard: thx for testing 11282
15:48 mtompset     when I say "doesn't know"... functionX(parameter) is unaware of what parameter is, but it is expecting a particular range, and DMY doesn't seem to be in it.
15:47 cait         and koha does know the syspref value too - we show the hints and all that about how to enter a date
15:47 mtompset     I'll see if we do, but my gut is that we merely display it, and not try to convert it to YMD or some other format.
15:46 cait         mtompset: i am quite sure we do that in lots of places like oleonard said
15:46 oleonard     I know nothing about it, but I can't help but think looking at other Koha code that handles dates correctly would be enlightening
15:45 mtompset     Because only the human will know the system preference value
15:45 mtompset     So, I've been trying to find something that does it right without knowing the format.
15:45 mtompset     But it isn't a Koha bug. It's a perl library bug.
15:44 mtompset     There's the paste.
15:44 mtompset     True ... it fails in tools/inventory.pl
15:44 oleonard     Well let's be specific then. "It fails" is unnecessarily broad. Koha most certainly handles dd/mm/yyyy correctly in most places
15:43 pastebot     "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "The first line is me adding code." (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/7
15:42 mtompset     Yes, and it blows up in the tools/inventory.pl
15:42 oleonard     ...since it accepts dd/mm/yyyy as a date format preference
15:42 mtompset     It fails.
15:42 oleonard     Koha must be doing it somewhere
15:41 mtompset     I can't find a perl library that does this right.
15:41 mtompset     oleonard: given a date in an unknown format (which you as a human being knows it will be dd/mm/yyyy) convert it to YYYY-MM-DD.
15:40 oleonard     ?
15:40 rambutan     We should take strong countermeasures.
15:36 mtompset     How about that dd/mm/yyyy format loving to blow up things? :)
15:36 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
15:05 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11282 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Not possible to create multiple restrictions from patron details/new restriction overwrites existing
15:05 cait         bug 11282
15:05 cait         looking for a sign off :)
15:05 cait         hm could someone give the restriction patches a test?
14:40 cait         magnuse++ :)
14:21 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
14:21 cait         @later tell gmcharlt - ping me when you have a few minutes?
14:19 druthb       :)
14:19 cait         druthb!
13:57 druthb       cait! oleonard!
13:53 cait         hi oleonard :)
13:50 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:44 mjoven       cait, thanks
13:38 mjoven       I'll try see in administration > authorised values > LOC
13:38 mjoven       but in LOCATION field there is the exact information about the book
13:30 cait         you can define those codes and descriptions under administration > authorised values > LOC
13:30 cait         to be resolved into a description
13:29 cait         it's a field for a code that is then looked up
13:29 cait         location is not really a free text field
13:28 cait         or you should have, but I don't know how you migrated
13:28 cait         you only have the code for a location in items
13:28 cait         items has the item information, some is linked to other tables, so for example your locations have a description and that is saved in another table
13:28 mjoven       cait, yes, is same location; this information is saved in LOCATION field, ITEMS table
13:28 cait         :)
13:28 cait         not sure where to start here
13:26 mjoven       let me know if I understand; information about MARC is saved in database (items table, I think); Koha select different field to show book details fpr administrator or user, correct ?
13:26 cait         lower/uppercase can matter
13:26 cait         your location codes in the item (best visible maybe when you look at the marcxmk download) exactly match the code you have defined in authorized values > LOC
13:25 cait         things to look out for
13:24 mjoven       cait, sorry
13:24 cait         you do't need the @ here, it will show up for me without :)
13:23 cait         hm
13:23 huginn       mjoven: I've exhausted my database of quotes
13:23 mjoven       @cait unfortunately is not accessible
13:23 cait         is your opac accessible?
13:23 cait         mjoven: which version of Koha? and are you using the XSLT displays?
13:23 wahanui      detail page is great
13:23 mjoven       detail page
13:22 cait         mjoven: detail page or result list?
13:22 WaylonR      .... huginn's a bot, ignore him
13:18 huginn       mjoven: I suck
13:18 mjoven       @cait I'm refering to location (I think 952c), library is showed correctly
13:17 cait         mjoven: what do you mean by location? the library or a location (LOC)? 952 a/b or c?
13:15 cait         WaylonR: the marc frameworks will only limist it for the marc view - most people are not aware of that i think - the normal display is driven by xslt (if activated) or is hardcoded perl :)
13:14 WaylonR      good question
13:14 WaylonR      oooooo
13:14 cait         mjoven: does it show on the detail page? the location? I mean is the difference in results or in detail pages?
13:14 WaylonR      visibilty is under "Advanced constraints"
13:13 WaylonR      ah
13:13 wahanui      hmmm... then the rest is easy peasy
13:13 WaylonR      then the rest
13:13 WaylonR      first, goto that link, then click on b
13:13 WaylonR      err..
13:13 WaylonR      gpto /cgi-bin/koha/admin/marc_subfields_structure.pl?op=add_form&tagfield=952&frameworkcode=#subbfield ... is koha link: items.holdingbranch? if so, check that Visibility: OPAC is turned on.
13:09 mjoven       MARC define detail about book or permissions too ?
13:09 WaylonR      not what i ment.
13:08 mjoven       WaylonR I confirm that books were imported from another program and converted to MARC
13:05 WaylonR      somewhere.
13:05 WaylonR      I think Marc structure .. visible needs toggling..
13:05 WaylonR      what can mjoven do?
13:04 WaylonR      paul_p, <mjoven> When I search a book in Adminitrator Page, in details I can see Location ; but when a user connect with OPAC and search for same book, he cannot see its location
13:04 mjoven       I don't understand if I need to enable some permission
13:04 mjoven       When I search a book in Adminitrator Page, in details I can see Location ; but when a user connect with OPAC and search for same book, he cannot see its location
12:55 WaylonR      go ahed
12:55 mjoven       Hi all, can I post here a question about OPAC interface ?
10:42 ashimema     good morning cait
10:42 cait         hi ashimema :)
10:42 cait         now i am really worried
10:42 cait         eek :)
10:38 WaylonR      Dum dum dummmmmm
10:38 WaylonR      it.. works in IE.....
10:38 WaylonR      different browser worked..
10:37 cait         maybe try a different browser too?
10:37 cait         WaylonR: and you cleared your cache and cookies?
10:37 WaylonR      okay, ive updated to current master.. and still its kicking me out of koha after logging in successfully, and doing something.
10:32 cait         fredericd: that makes sense, expanding the test and fixing every problem pointed out would be good
10:31 fredericd    There is something wrong on Bootstrap opac-detail.tt which break display in French when single quote is used
10:31 cait         that makes sense
10:31 cait         aaah ok
10:31 fredericd    cait: Ok. I will open a new bug. xt/single_quotes.t test has to be expanded to test Bootstrap theme also
10:30 cait         fredericd: maybe could have linked bugs to an omnibus one, but I don't think we have one yet
10:30 cait         fredericd: if there is a new occurence i woudl put it on a new bug I think - it's just easier to track. The omnibus bugs arre getting really huge fast
10:30 cait         fredericd: hm yes - not sure I understand what you want to do
10:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8942 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, RESOLVED FIXED, Translation process breaks javascript in calendar.inc
10:29 wahanui      bug was last seen on #koha 2 years, 88 days, 7 hours, 28 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying: seneca: rangi is a man :P [Wed Aug 31 03:01:06 2011]
10:29 fredericd    cait: seen bug 8942
10:24 wahanui      cait: i'm not following you...
10:24 cait         wahanui: you can think that, but not say it aloud - it's creepy ;)
10:23 cait         fredericd: there might, but i think easier to just open one that can then be lcosed
10:17 wahanui      I watch you sleep.
10:17 Joubu        rangi: good night
10:17 Joubu        rangi: That is a big development, isnt it?
10:17 * rangi      goes to sleep
10:16 fredericd    cait: Is there a bug umbrella covering JavaScript translatable texts bad formating? => _(' rather than _("
10:13 rangi        on display
10:13 rangi        we shouldnt be doing any encodes
10:13 rangi        store and retrieve the item properly
10:12 Joubu        rangi: what is the good one ? :)
10:12 Joubu        rangi: yes :)
10:12 rangi        they are both the wrong solution
10:11 cait         i only saw it on the bug
10:11 cait         i think there was also someone worried about html_entity having not all possible characters?
10:11 Joubu        I think it is better to fix the issue into a pm rather than in all tt files displaying a member of a C4::Category object
10:09 * cait       wishes she would understand what you 2 are talking about - but i hope it can be solved
10:09 Joubu        rangi: if I "parse" all objects and all members of these objects, the load will increase significantly
10:09 rangi        then i cant see how that is any better than just adding the html_entity filter
10:08 Joubu        Currently only C4::Category causes problems
10:07 Joubu        There is no string we want to display
10:07 Joubu        and it is useless to encode values
10:07 Joubu        Koha::Schema and DateTime is too big
10:07 Joubu        yes, it is what I do. But in fact I have to encode only some object
10:06 rangi        reftype($object) eq 'HASH'
10:06 rangi        reftype can
10:06 cait         maybe give an example?
10:06 rangi        ref cant understand that
10:06 rangi        sorry blessed hash
10:06 rangi        so an object is just a blessed array
10:06 rangi        right
10:05 Joubu        rangi: I don't understand what you want to do with reftype :)
10:03 rangi        Joubu: why use a whitelist, not use reftype ?
09:33 cait         gmcharlt: ping me when you have a few mins please?
09:32 cait         ashimema++
08:34 cait         good morning #koha
08:07 Joubu        hi #koha
08:01 wahanui      bidet, gaetan_B
08:01 gaetan_B     hello
07:59 WaylonR      gitweb / git. is being really slow...
07:53 cait         bbl
07:53 cait         ok, have to run
07:52 WaylonR      yes
07:52 WaylonR      and git is being abit slow yeds.
07:51 cait         maybe check if there is something in the logs?
07:51 cait         hm confusing
07:51 WaylonR      i really have no idea why the system is kicking me out, cait.. i cleared cache. and timeout is set to 1800
07:50 WaylonR      hmmmmm.
07:46 WaylonR      gits back
07:38 wahanui      bonjour, reiveune
07:38 reiveune     hello
07:34 WaylonR      welp... guess ill do koha another day.
07:33 cait         we might have to wait for US waking up to fix it
07:33 cait         yeah i can't access the page either
07:33 WaylonR      and git pull/fetch isn't working.
07:33 cait         also, did you change your timeout setting?
07:33 cait         maybe it's a bad session cookie
07:33 WaylonR      did that.
07:33 cait         WaylonR: try deleting your cache
07:32 cait         seems a bit slow
07:32 WaylonR      is git.koha-community.org down?
07:13 WaylonR      okay, using straight koha-master, can't login, keep getting 'session timed out' after logging in and clicking something.
06:52 alexia       ok ill try this now and let you know, thanx!
06:52 WaylonR      -v if you really want verbose
06:51 WaylonR      so, -b -a -r
06:51 WaylonR      alexia, -a is authorities.
06:51 alexia       hello, we are new to koha and we have a problem with authorities, they do not display even though i have run the indexer through the command misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -r -v. Is there any other indexer i need to run? Also , how do we create punctuation in cataloguing?
06:14 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
06:14 mtompset     Hello and goodbye.
05:55 WaylonR      hi all
05:24 edveal       Darn I was hoping I would catch Larryb working late.
04:49 dcook        :)*
04:49 dcook        Thanks for answering, rangi :)(
04:49 dcook        Must run though
04:47 dcook        It just seems like "these policies" might be referring to two different sets of policies
04:47 dcook        If that's the case, that makes sense
04:47 dcook        Or does that just mean in regards to the syspref doing the override?
04:45 dcook        What if the rule is that no items from branch x can be put on hold?
04:44 rangi        yep it means what it says, if they place a hold at branch x, but their home library is branch y .. the rules from branch y are used
04:40 dcook        Wait...maybe I do understand it..
04:39 pastebot     "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "holds? what?" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/6
04:38 dcook        Umm, what?
04:38 dcook        "Also, these policies are based on the patron's home library, not the library where the hold is being placed.."
04:38 dcook        If they do a good job, I will buy them beer
04:38 * dcook      seems to remember hearing about someone seeking to rewrite the circ rules...
03:30 wahanui      hola, eythian
03:30 eythian      hi
03:30 mtompset     Greetings, eythian too. :)
03:29 mtompset     Greetings, pianohacker rambutan rangi.
02:30 rangi        ah ha
02:30 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10311 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Holds queue ignores item-level holds where only one items exists
02:30 wizzyrea     bug 10311
02:10 wizzyrea     mmmm
02:09 eythian      I misread it
02:09 eythian      no wait
02:09 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3060 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , item number not on holds to pull report
02:09 eythian      bug 3060 looks possibly likely
02:09 huginn       rangi: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8859 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Item level holds not trapped if circ rules for item type are set to 'no holds allowed'
02:09 huginn       rangi: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8723 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , holds don't transfer when moving items
02:09 huginn       rangi: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10162 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , holds shouldn't be allowed on the title level of analytics
02:09 huginn       rangi: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3060 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , item number not on holds to pull report
02:09 huginn       rangi: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2894 major, P3, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Routing list holds are broken
02:09 rangi        @query item level holds
02:09 huginn       rangi: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
02:09 rangi        @search item level holds
02:08 rangi        hmm
02:07 wizzyrea     I can't find it, and I am *sure* it was a bug.
02:06 wizzyrea     does anyone remember a bug about item level holds not appearing on the hold queue?
01:30 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (2:00 PM NZDT on November 26, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady).
01:30 eythian      @wunder nzwn
01:23 mtompset     Silly VM causing networking issues.
01:23 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
01:01 trea         ^^
01:01 wizzyrea     Use the force, Harry. -- Love, Gandalf.
00:46 * dcook      was not impressed with that spoiler when he originally heard it
00:46 dcook        I just noticed trea left after that one
00:46 dcook        lol
00:28 trea         also, Snape kills Dumbledore. that is all.
00:25 wizzyrea     http://www.clker.com/cliparts/0/5/8/4/13025645181433592567haters-gonna-hate18-hi.png
00:14 jcamins      Joel was right.