Time  Nick         Message
23:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10645 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Missing zebra languages in koha-create manpage
23:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8670 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Update POD of C4::Branch::GetBranches() to use TT syntax
23:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10763 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Update POD of C4::Creators::Lib::html_table() to use TT syntax
23:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10764 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Update POD of C4::Items::GetItemStatus() to use TT syntax
23:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10765 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Update POD of C4::Koha::GetSupportList() to use TT syntax
23:29 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10645: adding missing zebra languages to koha-create manpage
23:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 8670 - Update POD of C4::Branch::GetBranches() to use TT syntax
23:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10763 - [SIGNED-OFF] Update POD of C4::Creators::Lib::html_table() to use TT syntax
23:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10764 - Update POD of C4::Items::GetItemStatus() to use TT syntax
23:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10765 - [SIGNED-OFF] Update POD of C4::Koha::GetSupportList() to use TT syntax
23:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #359: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/359/
23:10 pianohacker  rangi: I apologize, I really do not know why I continue to struggle so much with licenses
22:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #359 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:45 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10704 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Search term highlighting doesn't work beyond the first results page
22:45 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10728 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , subscription-renew generates unnecessary warnings in logs
22:45 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Field: Bug 10704: make OPAC highlighting work across previous/next travel
22:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 10728: fix additional log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl
22:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #358: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/358/
22:24 pablito      have a good night/day everyone :-)
22:24 pablito      it still doesn't work, but thank you for your help
22:23 rambutan     I'm glad rangi isn't given to understatement
22:17 rangi        if that doesnt work, you might want to try a debian channel or something
22:16 rangi        sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
22:16 rangi        try
22:14 pablito      ok, thanks
22:14 pablito      hehe
22:14 pablito      sorry
22:14 pablito      E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
22:14 pablito      Depends: perl-doc but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: mysql-client
22:14 pablito      Depends: apache2-mpm-itk but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: apache2
22:14 pablito      Depends: libyaml-syck-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: libyaml-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: libxml-rss-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: libxml-libxslt-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: libxml-libxml-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: libtext-unaccent-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: libtext-csv-xs-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: libtest-yaml-valid-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: libtest-www-mechanize-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: libtest-strict-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: libtemplate-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:14 pablito      Depends: libstring-rewriteprefix-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libsms-send-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libreadonly-xs-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libpoe-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 rangi        you will need to fix your debian
22:13 pablito      Depends: libpdf-reuse-barcode-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 jcamins      For future reference, we have a pastebin at paste.koha-community.org
22:13 pablito      Depends: libmoosex-types-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libmoosex-storage-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libmoose-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libmemoize-memcached-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libmarc-crosswalk-dublincore-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libmarc-charset-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 rangi        and yeah that was a bit of a big paste
22:13 pablito      Depends: liblist-moreutils-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: liblingua-stem-snowball-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libhttp-oai-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libgravatar-url-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libgraphics-magick-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      libgd-gd2-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl but it is not going to be installed or
22:13 pablito      Depends: libgd-barcode-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 rangi        you obviously didnt get a valid repo in there
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdbd-sqlite2-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdbd-mysql-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdbd-mock-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdatetime-timezone-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdatetime-set-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 rangi        well
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdatetime-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdatetime-format-mysql-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdatetime-format-ical-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdatetime-event-ical-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdate-manip-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdate-calc-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdata-paginator-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libdata-ical-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libcrypt-eksblowfish-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libclass-accessor-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 pablito      Depends: libcgi-session-serialize-yaml-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:13 wahanui      i already had it that way, pablito.
22:13 pablito      Depends: libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:12 pablito      Depends: libcache-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:12 pablito      Depends: libcache-memcached-fast-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:12 pablito      Depends: libcache-fastmmap-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:12 pablito      koha-common : Depends: libauthen-cas-client-perl but it is not going to be installed
22:12 pablito      The following packages have unmet dependencies:
22:12 pablito      rangi: I put in the nearest repo in sources.list and updated but still get the same errors
22:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #358 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:05 francharb    have a good week end!
22:05 francharb    bye all
22:01 rangi        fixed the issue
22:01 rangi        sweet
22:00 pianohacker  (and thanks for rebasing the patch)
21:59 pablito      ok
21:59 rangi        http://www.debian.org/mirror/list
21:59 rangi        or just pick one from
21:59 rangi        sudo netselect-apt wheezy
21:58 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC
21:58 pianohacker  rangi: Posted an update to bug 10486 that fixes another pazpar2 configuration issue
21:58 pablito      i already comment out the DVD repo
21:58 pablito      ok
21:58 rangi        netselect-apt is even better
21:58 pablito      ah ok
21:57 rangi        doesnt matter if you cant, that will just help you find a fast/close server
21:57 rangi        i hope that is on the dvd
21:57 rangi        sudo apt-get install netselect
21:57 pianohacker  thanks rangi
21:57 rangi        pablito: can you do this
21:56 rangi        yep pianohacker
21:55 pianohacker  What's Bernardo's username? bgkriegel?
21:53 pablito      can you give me an example of a good repot setting?
21:52 rangi        if not commenting it out wont fix it until you have that
21:52 rangi        if it has settings of a proper one then yep
21:51 pablito      so I should comment it out righgt?
21:51 rangi        you'll need to fix that
21:51 pablito      the sources.list indicates that
21:51 pablito      ah that's it
21:51 jcamins      Cache::Memcached is not Unicode safe.
21:51 rangi        maybe its still set up to use a dvd or cd instead of the debian apt repos
21:50 jcamins      Also, as an aside, use libcache-memcached-fast-perl not libcache-memcached-perl.
21:50 rangi        ahh
21:50 pablito      someone else setup debian for me
21:50 pablito      yeh, that's what I'm afraid of
21:50 rangi        but you need to figure out why you dont have a correct setup for debian
21:49 rangi        not really no
21:49 rangi        http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libcache-memcached-perl
21:49 pablito      so you want me to show the content of sources.list?
21:49 rangi        that is definitely in wheezy
21:49 rangi        yeah theres the problem
21:48 pablito      Version table:
21:48 pablito      Candidate: (none)
21:48 pablito      Installed: (none)
21:48 pablito      libcache-memcached-perl:
21:48 rangi        (this isnt really a koha problem now, those packages are in koha, not in debian so you should check you apt sources )
21:48 pablito      it says:
21:48 rangi        say
21:48 rangi        what does apt-cache policy libcache-memcached-perl
21:47 pablito      so what should I do?
21:47 rangi        is in debian proper
21:47 rangi        libcache-memcached-perl
21:47 rangi        ah yeah theres your problem those should be in your full debian repo
21:47 pablito      ?
21:47 pablito      hmm>
21:46 pablito      E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
21:46 wahanui      i already had it that way, pablito.
21:46 pablito      libcache-memcached-fast-perl but it is not installable
21:46 pablito      libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl : Depends: libcache-memcached-perl but it is not installable or
21:46 pablito      The following packages have unmet dependencies:
21:46 pablito      The following information may help to resolve the situation:
21:46 pablito      or been moved out of Incoming.
21:46 pablito      distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
21:46 pablito      requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
21:46 pablito      Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
21:46 pablito      Reading state information... Done
21:46 pablito      Building dependency tree
21:46 pablito      Reading package lists... Done
21:45 jcamins      pablito: but what about `sudo apt-get install libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl`?
21:45 pablito      i tried running: sudo apt-get -f install and nothing happpened
21:45 jcamins      I think. eythian was packaging 3.14 last night, so I presume he changed squeeze to 3.14 and oldstable to 3.12.
21:44 rangi        no if you try to install the missing dependencies?
21:44 pablito      ah ok
21:44 jcamins      squeeze is 3.14.
21:44 jcamins      pablito: oldstable is now 3.12.
21:43 pablito      well, I tried the repo for 3.12 it didn't work, so I revert to the oldstable 3.10 and same error
21:43 rangi        what happens if you just try to install that?
21:43 pablito      500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ oldstable/main amd64 Packages
21:43 pablito      0.04-2 0
21:43 pablito      Version table:
21:43 pablito      Candidate: 0.04-2
21:43 pablito      Installed: (none)
21:43 pablito      libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl:
21:40 rangi        any of the others
21:39 rangi        or
21:39 rangi        tell you
21:39 rangi        apt-cache policy libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl
21:39 rangi        what does
21:39 rangi        because those are all there
21:38 pablito      in my koha.list file
21:38 pablito      I have this: deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main
21:38 rangi        and you have the right apt repo set up eh?
21:37 pablito      there are more similar lines of erros after this
21:37 pablito      Depends: libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl but it is not installable
21:37 pablito      Depends: libdatetime-event-ical-perl but it is not installable
21:37 pablito      Depends: libdata-ical-perl but it is not installable
21:37 pablito      Depends: libcgi-session-serialize-yaml-perl but it is not installable
21:37 pablito      Depends: libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl but it is not going to be installed
21:37 pablito      Depends: libcache-memcached-fast-perl but it is not installable
21:36 pablito      Depends: libbusiness-isbn-perl but it is not installable
21:36 pablito      Depends: libbiblio-endnotestyle-perl but it is not installable
21:36 pablito      Depends: libauthen-cas-client-perl but it is not installable
21:36 pablito      koha-common : Depends: libalgorithm-checkdigits-perl but it is not installable
21:36 rangi        pablito: didnt see your error
21:34 rangi        and its definitely patron-search.inc that is the culprit
21:33 rangi        jcamins: im not expecting you to answer just talking out loud :)
21:33 rangi        jcamins: and its not that, commenting out that include (patrons-toolbar.inc) and the page is still broken its the search one
21:33 pablito      and I got the following error:
21:32 pablito      I'm installing Koha 3.12 by sudo apt-get install koha-common
21:32 pablito      can someone help me with a Koha installation error in the latest Debian
21:31 pablito      hi
21:29 rangi        >[% categorie.description | html_entity %]
21:29 rangi        hmm
21:23 rangi        the only broken place i can find so far is that one page
21:22 rangi        and in the admin section fine also
21:22 rangi        that on the modify page of a patron its fine
21:22 rangi        cos i note
21:22 rangi        could well be
21:22 jcamins      rangi: I think patron categories is using a different template plugin, isn't it?
21:21 rangi        so i think on the whole that its doing the right thing, just in one place we are messing up and double encoding the whole template, because the category is messing it up
21:20 rangi        if i go anywhere else it is fine, including in the patrons name etc
21:19 rangi        however it is only that patron categories
21:18 rangi        yep i can totally reproduce but only in non english templates
21:09 tcohen       cya
21:09 tcohen       gotta get her to the SPA
21:09 rangi        hehe cya :)
21:08 tcohen       byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
21:08 tcohen       heh
21:08 tcohen       girlfriend freaking out...
21:08 tcohen       gotta run
21:08 jcamins      tcohen: huh.
21:08 tcohen       jcamins: yes, much uglier results
21:08 rangi        will give it a try
21:08 tcohen       generate the ru-RU templates
21:08 rangi        thats why i couldnt reproduce
21:07 rangi        but you have to be running in non english templates
21:07 jcamins      tcohen: did you try KOI8R?
21:07 tcohen       to reproduce just copy some russian strings and use it for description of the patron type
21:07 tcohen       iso is worse :-D
21:06 rangi        what happens when you tell the browser its a different encoding?
21:05 rangi        so yeah i think you are right
21:05 rangi        yeah in english its ok, but the patches break it
21:05 tcohen       maybe is something about guessing the encoding of the translated templates
21:05 tcohen       in english it shows ok.... so....
21:05 rangi        but might be wrong
21:04 rangi        yeah i think id start looking at where we save the category name
21:03 tcohen       that's correct, at some point
21:03 rangi        and then trying to do the same thing again on display
21:02 rangi        tcohen: my guess is we are munching it on save
21:01 rangi        ah yep i started on that and found the eval thing, now its fixed i should be able to test and sign off
21:00 pianohacker  honeymoon? Congrats tcohen
21:00 rangi        will do
21:00 tcohen       if someone takes a look at 11096, when i'm back from my honeymoon next week i'll take on this bug
20:59 rangi        well they do, until you switch back to english
20:59 rangi        and none if the patches fix it
20:59 tcohen       so, we are letting Perl guess the encoding at some point
20:59 jcamins      Who knew that Đ was such a common letter?
20:59 tcohen       first, it doesn't break with ASCII+diacritics
20:58 rangi        double encoding bites again
20:58 pianohacker  :Đ
20:58 jcamins      That's really impressive.
20:58 tcohen       that's evidence
20:58 jcamins      That's impressive.
20:58 jcamins      Wow.
20:58 tcohen       i'll close the bug as WONTFIX with a message deprecating multi-language support
20:57 tcohen       *sigh http://snag.gy/ypo4s.jpg
20:56 tcohen       yeah, its damn broken
20:56 tcohen       reproduced!
20:55 jcamins      lol
20:55 tcohen       sarcasm flag
20:55 jcamins      tcohen: maybe I'm serious.
20:54 tcohen       the thing is, i cannot reproduce any of the screenshots
20:54 tcohen       you should wave the sarcasm flag just in case
20:53 tcohen       heh
20:53 jcamins      tcohen: insist that everyone use English from now on?
20:53 tcohen       #koha: what should we do about the utf8 bug?
20:43 chris_n      I wonder how that will unfold for snort, clamav, and friends
20:43 * chris_n    just discovered that sourcefire was purchased by cisco
20:30 bag          hola pianohacker
20:27 pianohacker  hallo
20:07 wahanui      It'll all be over soon...
20:07 cait         good night!
19:59 gmcharlt     tcohen++
18:55 francharb    :)
18:55 oleonard     Nice one wahanui
18:55 wahanui      However, now everything else is broken.
18:55 francharb    and it works
18:55 francharb    and rerun the installer
18:55 cait         and then it worked?
18:55 cait         oh
18:54 cait         what was with it?
18:54 francharb    I dropped it
18:54 cait         oh!
18:54 francharb    it was the database
18:54 francharb    cait, wizzyrea , by the way! I found a solution for my items problem
18:16 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Increment version for 3.12.7 release
18:16 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.12.07 release
18:16 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Update release notes for 3.12.7 release
18:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #134: STILL FAILING in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/134/
18:04 cait         tcohen++
18:00 tcohen       bye #koha
17:57 tcohen       :-P
17:57 tcohen       I released anyway
17:57 tcohen       ok, i don't belive you jenkins_koha
17:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #134 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #130 22 hr ago)
17:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #133: STILL FAILING in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/133/
17:35 jcamins      I guess both are in effect from 342-390 px wide.
17:35 * cait       waves
17:34 wahanui      well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
17:34 jcamins      Interesting.
17:34 jcamins      It is not a typo.
17:33 * jcamins    is checking if one of those is a typo, and will fix it if it is.
17:32 * oleonard   shrugs
17:31 jcamins      oleonard: layouts for 0-390 and 342-479?
17:29 ashimema     likewise on the distractions front.. koha is the day job.. yet the day job still gets in the way ;)
17:29 bag          sign me up for that too :D
17:28 ashimema     I'll direct our staff to it.. they were quizzing me earlier about it.
17:28 oleonard     Yes, down with anything distracting me from Koha!  ;)
17:28 ashimema     awesome.. that's a great start oleonard.. thanks for that..
17:28 bag          distractions--
17:28 bag          :)
17:27 oleonard     I'm working on a blog post too, but have lots of distractions at the moment
17:27 oleonard     I got started on it: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bootstrap_OPAC
17:26 ashimema     I still wonder whether some boilerplate aught to be put in those prefs at install time now bootstrap is default (maybe with the note to say it's bootstrap specific)
17:25 ashimema     btw.. did you ever write up any notes on best practice with OPACUserCSS and OPACUserJS sysprefs with the bootstrap theme?
17:24 ashimema     haha..
17:24 oleonard     I wondered what all the racket was
17:24 ashimema     *domestic.. even
17:24 ashimema     Sorry. slow reply.. been hoovering.. demstic bliss aye..
17:23 ashimema     Hi Oleonard.
17:20 gaetan_B     bye !
17:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #133 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #130 21 hr ago)
16:56 oleonard     Hi ashimema
16:28 reiveune     bye
16:06 cait         bye all have a nice weekend
16:02 mmm45        :-)
16:02 * mtompset   puts on his chauffeur hat.
16:01 mtompset     I thought it was because I was rolling my own distribution.
16:01 mtompset     I think I ran into that lack of dependency myself last night.
16:00 mtompset     sudo apt-get install libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl
16:00 mmm45        this is the required dependency: DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader
15:59 mtompset     Actually -m -u -r, since there is no need to look for non-required dependencies.
15:59 mtompset     -- /path/to/koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u
15:59 mmm45        i'll try it right now
15:58 mtompset     Do you have koha_perl_deps.pl somewhere? Run that.
15:58 mmm45        we are using Auth_with_ldap
15:58 mtompset     I suspect the Koha::AuthUtils fails, because you don't have the blowfish dependency.
15:58 mmm45        I am not using CAS
15:57 cait         is one of the sysprefs activated?
15:57 cait         are you using CAS?
15:57 cait         and then go from there
15:57 cait         i'd make sure first you have all required dependencies installed
15:55 mmm45        i'm not sure i understand what the problem is in C4/Auth
15:55 cait         mmm45: there might be other packages missing - they ar elisted in the release notes
15:54 mtompset     mainpage.pl? That's because of your C4/Auth.pm problem.
15:49 mmm45        or this: Compilation failed in require at /home/koha/kohaclone/mainpage.pl line 25. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/koha/kohaclone/mainpage.pl line 25.
15:48 mmm45        any suggestions about this error: Bareword "C4::Auth_with_cas::multipleAuth" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 1065. BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 1607.
15:46 cait         we didn't have problems so fr, but right now I think it won't work with ldap for example
15:45 cait         but does it's own thing
15:45 cait         the code isnot using the api
15:45 cait         the sip login is ugly
15:42 oleonard     Not in 3.12, so that doesn't have anything to do with the SIP login problems we're seeing randomly
15:38 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Changing the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to more secure Bcrypt
15:38 nengard      oleonard bug 9611
15:36 mmm45        awesome
15:35 cait         it got backported into your version most likely
15:35 cait         that says you already had the pref
15:35 cait         you can ignore that
15:34 mmm45        [Mon Nov 18 12:41:49 2013] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate entry 'CalculateFinesOnReturn' for key 'PRIMARY' at /home/koha/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 6976.
15:33 oleonard     when did the password encryption change in Koha?
15:31 oleonard     We saw the same thing right after our upgrade
15:30 nengard      oh! Okay I'll mention that
15:30 oleonard     By the way nengard, the screenshot suggests to me that they  need to clear their browser cache to get the correct styling
15:30 nengard      like "How did I miss that before?"
15:30 nengard      although usually i spot things that make me pleasantly surprised :)
15:30 nengard      happens to me too
15:30 nengard      Could be
15:29 oleonard     The new style has caused their eyes to notice something that they had trained themselves to ignore? :)
15:29 jcamins      Good luck.
15:29 jcamins      You'll need to fix whatever errors may have occurred. At a guess, the merge removed an = sign before head1 on that line.
15:28 nengard      Well I don't know why people are noticing it now ....
15:28 oleonard     nengard: Styling has changed some in each version since 3.8.x
15:27 mmm45        aahhh
15:27 jcamins      mmm45: sounds like you might have tried to merge local changes, and ran into problems.
15:27 nengard      did it always look the same?
15:27 nengard      I think when people are upgraded they notice things they didn't notice before ...
15:26 nengard      I thought it was there for a while
15:26 oleonard     I tested by checking in an item which wasn't checked out but had a hold on it.
15:26 oleonard     In my tests that message appears going back to at least 3.8.x
15:25 nengard      yes oleonard - which is actually an accurate message - but people are complaining so I complained on their behalf
15:25 mmm45        "use" not allowed in expression at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 79, at end of line syntax error at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 79, near "head1 SYNOPSIS    use CGI" BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 80.
15:25 mmm45        i get this error in the browser
15:25 mmm45        i installed the package as recommended
15:24 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11288 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , checkin showing multiple error messages
15:24 oleonard     nengard: Bug 11288 is about the fact that there is a "not checked out" error message along with the hold message?
15:22 jcamins      I mean, you need to install the package.
15:22 jcamins      man apt-get
15:22 jcamins      You need to install it.
15:22 mmm45        E: Invalid operation libcrypt-eksblowfish-perl
15:22 mmm45        i must be doing something wrong
15:22 mmm45        sorry
15:20 mmm45        apt-get, right?
15:20 mmm45        ooohhhh
15:20 jcamins      mmm45: sounds like you're installing using CPAN, which you should not do. Install the libcrypt-eksblowfish-perl package.
15:16 mmm45        Warning: Prerequisite 'Class::Mix => 0.001' for 'ZEFRAM/Crypt-Eksblowfish-0.009.tar.gz' failed when processing 'ZEFRAM/Class-Mix-0.005.tar.gz' with 'make_test => NO one dependency not OK (Params::Classify); additionally test harness failed'. Continuing, but chances to succeed are limited.
15:13 mmm45        but when running the dependencies i get errors like this one error building lib/Crypt/Eksblowfish.o from 'lib/Crypt/Eksblowfish.c' at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/ExtUtils/CBuilder/Base.pm line 177.
15:13 mmm45        I am trying to upgrade our catalog to 3.14.0
15:12 mmm45        hello
14:54 francharb    where in ontario?
14:54 francharb    I guessed you were canadian... hehe
14:54 mtompset     I'm in Ontario. I'm a Canadian. :)
14:53 francharb    where are you from mtompset ?
14:53 francharb    thank you!
14:53 mtompset     Welcome to Canada. :)
14:53 francharb    mtompset, french working in canada now ;)
14:52 mtompset     francharb: Were you a Canadian working in France, or are you a French person working in Canada now?
14:51 mtompset     Interesting turn of phrase.
14:50 francharb    :)
14:50 cait         ebegin: it's great he is working with you now :)
14:49 cait         :)
14:49 oleonard     ebegin++
14:49 ebegin       francharb was working at biblibre in France before and is now working for inLibro, here in Montreal. That is what I called « No Employer Lock In ».
14:48 ebegin       I just mentionned on twitter (@ericbegin) another advantage of open source.
14:27 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
14:20 seneca       not anything that would use CPU
14:20 seneca       it doesn't seem like those could... they're static pulls
14:20 cait         seneca: hm could those explain the load?
14:03 seneca       cait: what's on our opac-main is some pinterest widgets and a blogger widget
14:01 seneca       thus, I don't think it's bots
14:00 cait         oki :)
14:00 khall        cait: nothing will change, it'll still need to be a date
13:59 seneca       When no one's hitting the server, it seems to drop back down to normal
13:59 seneca       check it out yourself: libs.mvschool.com
13:59 seneca       ?
13:59 seneca       yes, but nothing new...I suppose the other end could have changed something
13:59 cait         in 3.6 you coud just have a debarred column and set it to 1, in 3.10+ it had to be a date... not sure what now :)
13:58 cait         yes
13:57 khall        also cait, you are referring to importing borrowers from a csv file, yes?
13:56 huginn       04Bug 11283: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Restriction type is not translatable
13:56 khall        cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11283 is ready for testing
13:56 seneca       right now rebuild-zebra and process-message are topping the list
13:56 cait         pulling in data from another source or something like that?
13:56 cait         is there something unusual on your opac-main?
13:56 seneca       then I did a search, and opac-search jumped up that high and it took another 10+seconds to return the results...
13:55 seneca       then the CPu went back to normal
13:55 seneca       wow, as soon as I hit refresh opac-main jumped to 90%+ and it took about 10 seconds for the page to show up
13:53 seneca       re: 500.pl - that makes sense ;)
13:53 seneca       which is normal
13:53 seneca       oh - it just dropped to 5-10%
13:53 seneca       hmmm
13:53 oleonard     bots hitting the site?
13:53 oleonard     500.pl is the script that serves up the 500 error message
13:52 seneca       Haven't done an upgrade lately, so not sure what changed between yesterday and today
13:52 seneca       Anyone ever see this?
13:52 seneca       "top" tells me the CPU hogs are a couple of opac-main instances, a rebuild-zebra, and something I've not seen called 500.pl
13:51 seneca       Came in today and found my Koha (on Debian) installation unresponsive with nigh 100% CPU usage
13:50 seneca       Good morning if you're where I am and good everything else if you're not!
13:47 cait         hi oleonard :)
13:45 cait         It's still quite a tricky one - building sentences with variables is always
13:45 oleonard     Hooray for not totally bad!
13:45 khall        that's good news!
13:45 cait         khall: the marc modification template translation didn#t turn out totally bad in pootle - but I still have to take a look how it turned out in the interface
13:44 khall        lol ; )
13:43 * cait       makes a mental note - more chocolate for kyle
13:43 cait         :)
13:43 khall        let me fix the strings, then we can fix that
13:41 cait         we got a library doing that... so I am a bit worried now:)
13:41 cait         *confused*
13:40 khall        that is a most excellent question, the answer is you've uncovered a bug. It'll work fine until another restriction is added, and you won't be able to delete the imported restriction. However, if you create a new restriction and delete that one, it would overwrite and then delete the imported restriction
13:38 cait         khall: what will happen when i load new patrons with debarred set?
13:37 khall        cait, what happens is the date for the "longest" restriction is but into borrowers.debarred, and the comments for all the restrictions are concatenated and put in debarredcomment. That we it's faster and didn't have to change as much code
13:37 cait         with TT this is soooo much easier
13:36 cait         khall: shoudl be easy to do in the templates, we have done it in a few places now for hardcoded strings from the database
13:36 cait         khall: about the restrictions: will the debarred/debarredcomment fields in borrowers still be used? which restriction goes there?
13:36 khall        I just saw your note in the last bug, workin on it!
13:35 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11283 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Restriction type is not translatable
13:35 cait         did you see it? bug 11283
13:35 cait         i have filed one for that
13:34 cait         I like to log the bugs before I forget
13:34 cait         if you got time :)
13:34 cait         it#s a bit of a sensitive spot - maybe better to have 2 testers
13:34 khall        would you like me to deal with the untranslatable strings now?
13:34 khall        it's up now
13:34 khall        cait, it's a one line patch. I think it's safe to take directly to QA if you want to
13:31 cait         cool :)
13:31 cait         at first we were confused because the option to have more than one is new
13:31 khall        I have a fix, it'll be up momentarility
13:31 cait         :)
13:31 cait         ok, that makes sense
13:30 khall        right, because of the bug
13:30 cait         i then edited again and it didn't add another, but kiilled my first one
13:30 cait         it kicks you out of the screen and back to details after saving
13:30 cait         when you add one
13:30 cait         that didn't work for me
13:30 cait         hmmm
13:29 khall        cait, you can add multiple restrictions but you have to save and go back for each one
13:29 francharb    hi cait
13:29 cait         hi francharb :)
13:28 francharb    good morning all
13:25 cait         i noticed some difference in where you edit it - i couldn't even add a second one from the patron edit screen, but only from the restrictions tab on the checkouts page
13:25 wahanui      i heard gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology.
13:25 tcohen       gmcharlt?
13:25 khall        wow, it always removes the restriction with the date furthest in the future
13:24 tcohen       hi cait
13:24 cait         hi tcohen :)
13:24 tcohen       morning
13:23 cait         thank you :)
13:21 khall        I'm on it
13:20 cait         we got a bit confusedon irc last night about it, but i think my test plan shoudl give you an idea (hopefully)
13:19 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11282 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Not possible to create multiple restrictions from patron details/new restriction overwrites existing
13:19 cait         bug 11282
13:18 khall        absolutley!
13:18 cait         maybe you could take a look?
13:18 cait         I have run into some serious probldms with the restrictions last night - and we were not sure how it is supposed to wrk
13:18 khall        mornin!
13:18 cait         hi :)
13:18 khall        yo
13:18 cait         khall: around?
12:45 cait         slef++ # fixing whitespace :)
12:30 pug          Thanks a ton! -- this actually has many useful scripts - yeah, including csv to marc -- Ill test these. Hopefully contrib back if there are any holes! -- slef ++
12:20 pug          cool! -- let me check this stuff
12:17 slef         pug: aha, https://gitorious.org/koha-toolbox is bywater's toolset
12:15 slef         pug: I thought the other tools would be on http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw but that's being slow to answer me
12:13 slef         pug: I thought we'd published it but I'm not finding it on http://www.software.coop/source/ - if we haven't then it'll take me a while to update it
12:12 slef         back
12:04 pug          slef - let me know once you are back - really looking for a solution!
11:51 pug          ok  - I take that back -- can you share a link for your* tool?
11:49 pug          can you share a link for bbl?
11:49 pug          oh cool - slef ++
11:47 slef         bbl
11:46 slef         pug: yeah I think both sets are. Most GUI types use marc edit somehow (I don't know that well... one of the command line toolsets is mine)
11:45 pug          slef - you mean command line tools?
11:45 pug          is it!
11:45 slef         there are already at least two sets of csv to marcxml conversion tools around - catalyst's is probably the easiest to find
11:44 slef         marcxml is an encoding of marc21
11:44 pug          if I were to build a script - which is the easist format to convert the csv to? .. marcxml or marc21?
11:43 cait         pug: migrating data is always a big project - hope you can work it out
11:43 pug          cait - yeah - I tried to look - I couldnt find any in the repo.. marc edit is what we use currently - but its difficult to use with the GUI, esp if you have many items per bib record to map
11:42 cait         :)
11:42 cait         pi.
11:42 slef         hi everyone - what's new?
11:40 cait         hi sophie_m :)
11:33 sophie_m     hello #koha :-)
11:32 sophie_m     sorry wrong chan :-[
11:32 sophie_m     oups
11:32 sophie_m     !ping
11:32 sophie_m     alex_a: est-ce qu'une de tes interventions pour MT 12257 aurait pu produire MT 13013 ?
11:22 cait         so probably there is none available currently
11:21 cait         hm at least i thought there were
11:19 cait         there are some in the repo
11:19 cait         or build htier own scripts for migration
11:19 cait         some people use marcedit
11:19 pug          So  in many parts of the world- the catalog data is already in some marc format or the other, is it?
10:38 Joubu        pug: yep, sorry. No I don't know how to convert csv to marc records.
10:27 pug          Hi Joubu - around?
10:14 pug          since Around here not many marc records exist to begin with
10:14 pug          Im looking for a CLI tool to convert csv data to marc records that can be used with bulk_import.pl
10:12 pug          Joubu - I have another small question Ive not found a decent ans to - its quite a relevant issue from this region of the world-
10:11 pug          cool - thanks!
10:11 Joubu        pug: head is master. master has just 4 small fixes above 3.14
10:04 pug          Joubu - hey thanks - so the head is indeed at 3.14, right?
09:56 Joubu        pug: see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Demo_Databases
09:30 pug          anyone has a demo installation to take a look at 3.14 OPAC?
09:30 pug          Hi guys
09:08 cait         bonjour paul_p
08:36 cait         hi #koha
08:14 gaetan_B     hello
07:44 cait         later all
07:44 * cait       waves
07:40 wahanui      niihau, reiveune
07:40 reiveune     hello
06:44 mtompset     Have a great day, #koha.
06:44 mtompset     I think that blip is a sign.
06:44 dcook        Have a good Friday/weekend all
06:26 mtompset     And there's my QA system back.
05:26 * mtompset   is waiting for the rsync.
04:59 dcook        Hmm, maybe my browser is just not working..
04:59 * dcook      waves
04:06 mtompset     okay. Finally got 3.14+tweaks distribution rolling. :)
03:50 mtompset     Handy if you did it a couple commits back. :)
03:49 jcamins      You can do that too if you prefer.
03:48 mtompset     jcamins: git rebase -i allows you to delete a commit from the list. I think that might be it.
03:33 jcamins      mtompset: git reset --hard or git checkout ${whatever_you_want_to_checkout}
03:32 mtompset     Is there a way to git bz unapply?
03:17 mtompset     print $time{eythian};
03:16 * eythian    => 'beer o'clock',
03:15 eythian      so is a branch, it just can move
03:15 eythian      yep
03:15 mtj          afaik, a tag is just a friendly alias for a commit
03:13 eythian      either way, --track will do it
03:13 mtompset     I think you are right, but I'm not sure either.
03:13 eythian      tracking a tag isn't really meaningful.
03:13 eythian      I think branching from another branch will track it by default, but I'm not 100% sure.
03:13 eythian      quite probably :)
03:12 mtompset     And that's what I really wanted then!
03:11 eythian      yes
03:10 mtompset     ah... is there a 3.14.x branch?
03:10 jcamins      mtompset: because tags don't move.
03:10 rangi        tags never move
03:10 mtompset     Why is there no moving 3.14.x tag?
03:10 mtompset     Though, actually. This does cause me to wonder...
03:09 eythian      yeah :)
03:09 mtompset     I suppose I can consider the error a "Why are you trying to do something dumb?" message. :)
03:08 eythian      yes
03:08 eythian      it never changes.
03:08 mtompset     well, thinking about it, git rebase doesn't make sense, since 3.14.00 is fixed in time.
03:08 eythian      there's also no point tracking a tag
03:07 eythian      because it doesn't look like you're doing the right thing.
03:07 eythian      but what are you trying to do?
03:07 eythian      well, that's an answer
03:07 wizzyrea     git checkout -b blah --track origin/v3.14.00
03:07 eythian      you haven't told it about an upstream to rebase against
03:06 mtompset     How would you set tracking information?
03:06 mtompset     There is no tracking information for the current branch.
03:06 mtompset     gives me a nice error.
03:06 mtompset     git rebase
03:05 mtompset     git checkout -b blah v3.14.00
03:05 wahanui      mtompset: sorry...
03:05 mtompset     But seriously, wahanui...
03:05 mtompset     42.
03:05 wahanui      question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?"
03:05 mtompset     okay... question.
03:05 mtompset     Ah, good point.
03:04 eythian      In theory, in practice I get the motivation to fix it when it's not working for _me_.
03:03 mtompset     eythian: But doesn't Jenkin's failures catch that?
03:02 eythian      it's good to know that something hasn't slipped in that stops it building.
03:02 eythian      ideally regularly, but realistically occasionally
03:02 eythian      yeah
03:01 mtompset     You package master occasionally?
03:00 wizzyrea     always marching forward we are.
03:00 mtompset     3.15 packages?
02:54 jcamins      Gosh, Spanish hot chocolate is wonderful.
02:45 tcohen       i was worried for the maintenance release failing the tests
02:44 tcohen       thanks rangi
02:43 rangi        ill have to figure some way round it
02:43 rangi        naw its a problem that the junit.xml file is on the slave, and the master cant get it
02:42 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
02:42 tcohen       @later tell rangi it is possible that there's a problem with the jenkins script, i cannot seem to find the tests results
02:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #132: STILL FAILING in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/132/
02:39 wizzyrea     more*
02:39 huginn       eythian: Karma for "<!" has been increased 14 times and decreased 130 times for a total karma of -116.
02:39 eythian      @karma <!
02:39 wizzyrea     anymroe
02:39 wizzyrea     it's just not necessary
02:39 wizzyrea     yarp
02:39 tcohen       so the only change would be the more tag
02:39 wizzyrea     so that they didn't overwhelm the home page.
02:39 wizzyrea     it used to be that we'd use the <!-- more --> tag to split the posts
02:38 wizzyrea     for your releases, you'll want to use categories, so releases, and 3.12 (or are you 10? Whichever applies.)
02:37 tcohen       wizzyrea: which tags should and shouldn't use?
02:35 tcohen       o/ yay robin!
02:35 wizzyrea     i mean eythian >.<
02:35 wizzyrea     \o/ thanks robin!
02:33 eythian      s/ing/ed/
02:32 eythian      3.14 and 3.15 packages uploading.
02:30 jcamins      If MARCedit will run on your computer, it's pretty much the same.
02:30 mtompset     That ties into the MARCEdit answer.
02:30 mtompset     marc breaker format requires knowledge of things like 260$a, 260$b, 260$c, etc. etc.
02:28 jcamins      Write records in marc breaker format, then use marc maker to compile them.
02:28 mtompset     How?
02:28 wizzyrea     good work that.
02:28 mtompset     vim?!
02:28 wizzyrea     I like the new place holds interface in the OPAC
02:28 jcamins      "vim" was a non-ironic response.
02:28 jcamins      mtompset: right, but we already have that.
02:27 wizzyrea     ^^ is what I was about to say
02:27 mtompset     Unless this tool just gave plain data entry type labels for things and generated a .mrc file to import.
02:25 jcamins      And the cataloging module would have to be completely redone to be usable in offline mode.
02:23 jcamins      But, no, cataloging isn't exactly a mission-critical function in the type of library that needs an ILS like Koha.
02:22 jcamins      mtompset: vim.
02:21 mtompset     Well, being an RM is kind of time consuming. :)
02:20 tcohen       this
02:20 tcohen       too busy these days
02:20 tcohen       hi mtompset
02:19 mtompset     And to be honest, I asked why not marcedit too, tcohen. :)
02:19 mtompset     What about something for people who know nothing of library things?
02:18 mtompset     The problem with marcedit is it requires knowledge of MARC.
02:18 wahanui      it has been said that mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
02:18 busla        hey mtompset
02:18 wahanui      i heard marcedit was a tool for editing MARC records. It can also convert spreadsheets to MARC. See http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php
02:18 tcohen       marcedit?
02:17 mtompset     Do we have an offline data entry tool?
02:17 mtompset     Out of curiosity, we have an offline circulation tool.
02:16 mtompset     Greetings, busla tcohen
02:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #132 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #130 6 hr 42 min ago)
01:43 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
01:43 wizzyrea     @later tell tcohen hiyas - fyi, since the posts are no longer on the home page of koha-community.org, we don't need to put the "more" tags in (i don't even know if you were doing this - I'm just telling all of the maintainers) Cheers!
01:42 huginn       wizzyrea: The operation succeeded.
01:42 wizzyrea     @later tell bgkriegel hiyas - fyi, since the posts are no longer on the home page of koha-community.org, we don't need to put the "more" tags in (i don't even know if you were doing this - I'm just telling all of the maintainers) Cheers!
01:21 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8584 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , Improve cleanup_database.pl to only purge emails older than X days.
01:21 wizzyrea     bug 8584
00:58 bag          more treats will be the patch
00:58 bag          only a few more months of him being in the office and he'll submit his first patch
00:57 BobB         catch ya later
00:57 bag          and with that - it's time to take this needy doggie home… Mr Aloo has had his full for the day
00:57 bag          YAY
00:56 bag          awesome :)
00:56 BobB         I just used a Bywater blog entry to explain 'relevance' to a client - excellent post, thank you
00:56 BobB         :)
00:56 bag          one of my favs :)
00:56 bag          YAY it's BobB :)
00:55 BobB         hi bag
00:51 bag          heya BobB
00:48 wizzyrea     ^ magic
00:47 wizzyrea     http://koha-community.org/files/2013/11/cropped-kohabanner3.jpg
00:47 wizzyrea     hahahaha
00:45 eythian      OK, updating deps on wheezy causes a failed build on squeeze, good to know.
00:36 dcook        :D
00:35 huginn       dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (11:00 AM EST on November 22, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
00:35 dcook        @wunder sydney, australia
00:34 eythian      there's a couple of packages that aren't in squeeze that it wants.
00:34 bag          close but welly pulls out the win today
00:34 huginn       bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 15.9°C (4:34 PM PST on November 21, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising).
00:34 bag          @wunder 93102
00:33 rangi        ahh
00:33 eythian      nah, dependency problem
00:33 rangi        failing silently?
00:32 * eythian    tries to figure out why 3.14 won't build...
00:14 ibeardslee   that's almost tropical
00:11 eythian      no.
00:11 huginn       eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (1:00 PM NZDT on November 22, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
00:11 eythian      @wunder nzwn
00:10 wizzyrea     is it cold?