Time Nick Message 00:10 wizzyrea is it cold? 00:11 eythian @wunder nzwn 00:11 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (1:00 PM NZDT on November 22, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 00:11 eythian no. 00:14 ibeardslee that's almost tropical 00:32 * eythian tries to figure out why 3.14 won't build... 00:33 rangi failing silently? 00:33 eythian nah, dependency problem 00:33 rangi ahh 00:34 bag @wunder 93102 00:34 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 15.9°C (4:34 PM PST on November 21, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Rising). 00:34 bag close but welly pulls out the win today 00:34 eythian there's a couple of packages that aren't in squeeze that it wants. 00:35 dcook @wunder sydney, australia 00:35 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 23.0°C (11:00 AM EST on November 22, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). 00:36 dcook :D 00:45 eythian OK, updating deps on wheezy causes a failed build on squeeze, good to know. 00:47 wizzyrea hahahaha 00:47 wizzyrea http://koha-community.org/files/2013/11/cropped-kohabanner3.jpg 00:48 wizzyrea ^ magic 00:51 bag heya BobB 00:55 BobB hi bag 00:56 bag YAY it's BobB :) 00:56 bag one of my favs :) 00:56 BobB :) 00:56 BobB I just used a Bywater blog entry to explain 'relevance' to a client - excellent post, thank you 00:56 bag awesome :) 00:57 bag YAY 00:57 bag and with that - it's time to take this needy doggie home… Mr Aloo has had his full for the day 00:57 BobB catch ya later 00:58 bag only a few more months of him being in the office and he'll submit his first patch 00:58 bag more treats will be the patch 01:21 wizzyrea bug 8584 01:21 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8584 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , Improve cleanup_database.pl to only purge emails older than X days. 01:42 wizzyrea @later tell bgkriegel hiyas - fyi, since the posts are no longer on the home page of koha-community.org, we don't need to put the "more" tags in (i don't even know if you were doing this - I'm just telling all of the maintainers) Cheers! 01:42 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 01:43 wizzyrea @later tell tcohen hiyas - fyi, since the posts are no longer on the home page of koha-community.org, we don't need to put the "more" tags in (i don't even know if you were doing this - I'm just telling all of the maintainers) Cheers! 01:43 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 02:16 jenkins_koha Starting build #132 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #130 6 hr 42 min ago) 02:16 mtompset Greetings, busla tcohen 02:17 mtompset Out of curiosity, we have an offline circulation tool. 02:17 mtompset Do we have an offline data entry tool? 02:18 tcohen marcedit? 02:18 wahanui i heard marcedit was a tool for editing MARC records. It can also convert spreadsheets to MARC. See http://people.oregonstate.edu/~reeset/marcedit/html/index.php 02:18 busla hey mtompset 02:18 wahanui it has been said that mtompset is catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry. 02:18 mtompset The problem with marcedit is it requires knowledge of MARC. 02:19 mtompset What about something for people who know nothing of library things? 02:19 mtompset And to be honest, I asked why not marcedit too, tcohen. :) 02:20 tcohen hi mtompset 02:20 tcohen too busy these days 02:20 tcohen this 02:21 mtompset Well, being an RM is kind of time consuming. :) 02:22 jcamins mtompset: vim. 02:23 jcamins But, no, cataloging isn't exactly a mission-critical function in the type of library that needs an ILS like Koha. 02:25 jcamins And the cataloging module would have to be completely redone to be usable in offline mode. 02:27 mtompset Unless this tool just gave plain data entry type labels for things and generated a .mrc file to import. 02:27 wizzyrea ^^ is what I was about to say 02:28 jcamins mtompset: right, but we already have that. 02:28 jcamins "vim" was a non-ironic response. 02:28 wizzyrea I like the new place holds interface in the OPAC 02:28 mtompset vim?! 02:28 wizzyrea good work that. 02:28 mtompset How? 02:28 jcamins Write records in marc breaker format, then use marc maker to compile them. 02:30 mtompset marc breaker format requires knowledge of things like 260$a, 260$b, 260$c, etc. etc. 02:30 mtompset That ties into the MARCEdit answer. 02:30 jcamins If MARCedit will run on your computer, it's pretty much the same. 02:32 eythian 3.14 and 3.15 packages uploading. 02:33 eythian s/ing/ed/ 02:35 wizzyrea \o/ thanks robin! 02:35 wizzyrea i mean eythian >.< 02:35 tcohen o/ yay robin! 02:37 tcohen wizzyrea: which tags should and shouldn't use? 02:38 wizzyrea for your releases, you'll want to use categories, so releases, and 3.12 (or are you 10? Whichever applies.) 02:39 wizzyrea it used to be that we'd use the <!-- more --> tag to split the posts 02:39 wizzyrea so that they didn't overwhelm the home page. 02:39 tcohen so the only change would be the more tag 02:39 wizzyrea yarp 02:39 wizzyrea it's just not necessary 02:39 wizzyrea anymroe 02:39 eythian @karma <! 02:39 huginn eythian: Karma for "<!" has been increased 14 times and decreased 130 times for a total karma of -116. 02:39 wizzyrea more* 02:41 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #132: STILL FAILING in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/132/ 02:42 tcohen @later tell rangi it is possible that there's a problem with the jenkins script, i cannot seem to find the tests results 02:42 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 02:43 rangi naw its a problem that the junit.xml file is on the slave, and the master cant get it 02:43 rangi ill have to figure some way round it 02:44 tcohen thanks rangi 02:45 tcohen i was worried for the maintenance release failing the tests 02:54 jcamins Gosh, Spanish hot chocolate is wonderful. 03:00 mtompset 3.15 packages? 03:00 wizzyrea always marching forward we are. 03:01 mtompset You package master occasionally? 03:02 eythian yeah 03:02 eythian ideally regularly, but realistically occasionally 03:02 eythian it's good to know that something hasn't slipped in that stops it building. 03:03 mtompset eythian: But doesn't Jenkin's failures catch that? 03:04 eythian In theory, in practice I get the motivation to fix it when it's not working for _me_. 03:05 mtompset Ah, good point. 03:05 mtompset okay... question. 03:05 wahanui question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" 03:05 mtompset 42. 03:05 mtompset But seriously, wahanui... 03:05 wahanui mtompset: sorry... 03:05 mtompset git checkout -b blah v3.14.00 03:06 mtompset git rebase 03:06 mtompset gives me a nice error. 03:06 mtompset There is no tracking information for the current branch. 03:06 mtompset How would you set tracking information? 03:07 eythian you haven't told it about an upstream to rebase against 03:07 wizzyrea git checkout -b blah --track origin/v3.14.00 03:07 eythian well, that's an answer 03:07 eythian but what are you trying to do? 03:07 eythian because it doesn't look like you're doing the right thing. 03:08 eythian there's also no point tracking a tag 03:08 mtompset well, thinking about it, git rebase doesn't make sense, since 3.14.00 is fixed in time. 03:08 eythian it never changes. 03:08 eythian yes 03:09 mtompset I suppose I can consider the error a "Why are you trying to do something dumb?" message. :) 03:09 eythian yeah :) 03:10 mtompset Though, actually. This does cause me to wonder... 03:10 mtompset Why is there no moving 3.14.x tag? 03:10 rangi tags never move 03:10 jcamins mtompset: because tags don't move. 03:10 mtompset ah... is there a 3.14.x branch? 03:11 eythian yes 03:12 mtompset And that's what I really wanted then! 03:13 eythian quite probably :) 03:13 eythian I think branching from another branch will track it by default, but I'm not 100% sure. 03:13 eythian tracking a tag isn't really meaningful. 03:13 mtompset I think you are right, but I'm not sure either. 03:13 eythian either way, --track will do it 03:15 mtj afaik, a tag is just a friendly alias for a commit 03:15 eythian yep 03:15 eythian so is a branch, it just can move 03:16 * eythian => 'beer o'clock', 03:17 mtompset print $time{eythian}; 03:32 mtompset Is there a way to git bz unapply? 03:33 jcamins mtompset: git reset --hard or git checkout ${whatever_you_want_to_checkout} 03:48 mtompset jcamins: git rebase -i allows you to delete a commit from the list. I think that might be it. 03:49 jcamins You can do that too if you prefer. 03:50 mtompset Handy if you did it a couple commits back. :) 04:06 mtompset okay. Finally got 3.14+tweaks distribution rolling. :) 04:59 * dcook waves 04:59 dcook Hmm, maybe my browser is just not working.. 05:26 * mtompset is waiting for the rsync. 06:26 mtompset And there's my QA system back. 06:44 dcook Have a good Friday/weekend all 06:44 mtompset I think that blip is a sign. 06:44 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 07:40 reiveune hello 07:40 wahanui niihau, reiveune 07:44 * cait waves 07:44 cait later all 08:14 gaetan_B hello 08:36 cait hi #koha 09:08 cait bonjour paul_p 09:30 pug Hi guys 09:30 pug anyone has a demo installation to take a look at 3.14 OPAC? 09:56 Joubu pug: see http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_Demo_Databases 10:04 pug Joubu - hey thanks - so the head is indeed at 3.14, right? 10:11 Joubu pug: head is master. master has just 4 small fixes above 3.14 10:11 pug cool - thanks! 10:12 pug Joubu - I have another small question Ive not found a decent ans to - its quite a relevant issue from this region of the world- 10:14 pug Im looking for a CLI tool to convert csv data to marc records that can be used with bulk_import.pl 10:14 pug since Around here not many marc records exist to begin with 10:27 pug Hi Joubu - around? 10:38 Joubu pug: yep, sorry. No I don't know how to convert csv to marc records. 11:19 pug So in many parts of the world- the catalog data is already in some marc format or the other, is it? 11:19 cait some people use marcedit 11:19 cait or build htier own scripts for migration 11:19 cait there are some in the repo 11:21 cait hm at least i thought there were 11:22 cait so probably there is none available currently 11:32 sophie_m alex_a: est-ce qu'une de tes interventions pour MT 12257 aurait pu produire MT 13013 ? 11:32 sophie_m !ping 11:32 sophie_m oups 11:32 sophie_m sorry wrong chan :-[ 11:33 sophie_m hello #koha :-) 11:40 cait hi sophie_m :) 11:42 slef hi everyone - what's new? 11:42 cait pi. 11:42 cait :) 11:43 pug cait - yeah - I tried to look - I couldnt find any in the repo.. marc edit is what we use currently - but its difficult to use with the GUI, esp if you have many items per bib record to map 11:43 cait pug: migrating data is always a big project - hope you can work it out 11:44 pug if I were to build a script - which is the easist format to convert the csv to? .. marcxml or marc21? 11:44 slef marcxml is an encoding of marc21 11:45 slef there are already at least two sets of csv to marcxml conversion tools around - catalyst's is probably the easiest to find 11:45 pug is it! 11:45 pug slef - you mean command line tools? 11:46 slef pug: yeah I think both sets are. Most GUI types use marc edit somehow (I don't know that well... one of the command line toolsets is mine) 11:47 slef bbl 11:49 pug oh cool - slef ++ 11:49 pug can you share a link for bbl? 11:51 pug ok - I take that back -- can you share a link for your* tool? 12:04 pug slef - let me know once you are back - really looking for a solution! 12:12 slef back 12:13 slef pug: I thought we'd published it but I'm not finding it on http://www.software.coop/source/ - if we haven't then it'll take me a while to update it 12:15 slef pug: I thought the other tools would be on http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw but that's being slow to answer me 12:17 slef pug: aha, https://gitorious.org/koha-toolbox is bywater's toolset 12:20 pug cool! -- let me check this stuff 12:30 pug Thanks a ton! -- this actually has many useful scripts - yeah, including csv to marc -- Ill test these. Hopefully contrib back if there are any holes! -- slef ++ 12:45 cait slef++ # fixing whitespace :) 13:18 cait khall: around? 13:18 khall yo 13:18 cait hi :) 13:18 khall mornin! 13:18 cait I have run into some serious probldms with the restrictions last night - and we were not sure how it is supposed to wrk 13:18 cait maybe you could take a look? 13:18 khall absolutley! 13:19 cait bug 11282 13:19 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11282 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Not possible to create multiple restrictions from patron details/new restriction overwrites existing 13:20 cait we got a bit confusedon irc last night about it, but i think my test plan shoudl give you an idea (hopefully) 13:21 khall I'm on it 13:23 cait thank you :) 13:24 tcohen morning 13:24 cait hi tcohen :) 13:24 tcohen hi cait 13:25 khall wow, it always removes the restriction with the date furthest in the future 13:25 tcohen gmcharlt? 13:25 wahanui i heard gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology. 13:25 cait i noticed some difference in where you edit it - i couldn't even add a second one from the patron edit screen, but only from the restrictions tab on the checkouts page 13:28 francharb good morning all 13:29 cait hi francharb :) 13:29 francharb hi cait 13:29 khall cait, you can add multiple restrictions but you have to save and go back for each one 13:30 cait hmmm 13:30 cait that didn't work for me 13:30 cait when you add one 13:30 cait it kicks you out of the screen and back to details after saving 13:30 cait i then edited again and it didn't add another, but kiilled my first one 13:30 khall right, because of the bug 13:31 cait ok, that makes sense 13:31 cait :) 13:31 khall I have a fix, it'll be up momentarility 13:31 cait at first we were confused because the option to have more than one is new 13:31 cait cool :) 13:34 khall cait, it's a one line patch. I think it's safe to take directly to QA if you want to 13:34 khall it's up now 13:34 khall would you like me to deal with the untranslatable strings now? 13:34 cait it#s a bit of a sensitive spot - maybe better to have 2 testers 13:34 cait if you got time :) 13:34 cait I like to log the bugs before I forget 13:35 cait i have filed one for that 13:35 cait did you see it? bug 11283 13:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11283 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Restriction type is not translatable 13:36 khall I just saw your note in the last bug, workin on it! 13:36 cait khall: about the restrictions: will the debarred/debarredcomment fields in borrowers still be used? which restriction goes there? 13:36 cait khall: shoudl be easy to do in the templates, we have done it in a few places now for hardcoded strings from the database 13:37 cait with TT this is soooo much easier 13:37 khall cait, what happens is the date for the "longest" restriction is but into borrowers.debarred, and the comments for all the restrictions are concatenated and put in debarredcomment. That we it's faster and didn't have to change as much code 13:38 cait khall: what will happen when i load new patrons with debarred set? 13:40 khall that is a most excellent question, the answer is you've uncovered a bug. It'll work fine until another restriction is added, and you won't be able to delete the imported restriction. However, if you create a new restriction and delete that one, it would overwrite and then delete the imported restriction 13:41 cait *confused* 13:41 cait we got a library doing that... so I am a bit worried now:) 13:43 khall let me fix the strings, then we can fix that 13:43 cait :) 13:43 * cait makes a mental note - more chocolate for kyle 13:44 khall lol ; ) 13:45 cait khall: the marc modification template translation didn#t turn out totally bad in pootle - but I still have to take a look how it turned out in the interface 13:45 khall that's good news! 13:45 oleonard Hooray for not totally bad! 13:45 cait It's still quite a tricky one - building sentences with variables is always 13:47 cait hi oleonard :) 13:50 seneca Good morning if you're where I am and good everything else if you're not! 13:51 seneca Came in today and found my Koha (on Debian) installation unresponsive with nigh 100% CPU usage 13:52 seneca "top" tells me the CPU hogs are a couple of opac-main instances, a rebuild-zebra, and something I've not seen called 500.pl 13:52 seneca Anyone ever see this? 13:52 seneca Haven't done an upgrade lately, so not sure what changed between yesterday and today 13:53 oleonard 500.pl is the script that serves up the 500 error message 13:53 oleonard bots hitting the site? 13:53 seneca hmmm 13:53 seneca oh - it just dropped to 5-10% 13:53 seneca which is normal 13:53 seneca re: 500.pl - that makes sense ;) 13:55 seneca wow, as soon as I hit refresh opac-main jumped to 90%+ and it took about 10 seconds for the page to show up 13:55 seneca then the CPu went back to normal 13:56 seneca then I did a search, and opac-search jumped up that high and it took another 10+seconds to return the results... 13:56 cait is there something unusual on your opac-main? 13:56 cait pulling in data from another source or something like that? 13:56 seneca right now rebuild-zebra and process-message are topping the list 13:56 khall cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11283 is ready for testing 13:56 huginn 04Bug 11283: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Restriction type is not translatable 13:57 khall also cait, you are referring to importing borrowers from a csv file, yes? 13:58 cait yes 13:59 cait in 3.6 you coud just have a debarred column and set it to 1, in 3.10+ it had to be a date... not sure what now :) 13:59 seneca yes, but nothing new...I suppose the other end could have changed something 13:59 seneca ? 13:59 seneca check it out yourself: libs.mvschool.com 13:59 seneca When no one's hitting the server, it seems to drop back down to normal 14:00 khall cait: nothing will change, it'll still need to be a date 14:00 cait oki :) 14:01 seneca thus, I don't think it's bots 14:03 seneca cait: what's on our opac-main is some pinterest widgets and a blogger widget 14:20 cait seneca: hm could those explain the load? 14:20 seneca it doesn't seem like those could... they're static pulls 14:20 seneca not anything that would use CPU 14:27 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 14:48 ebegin I just mentionned on twitter (@ericbegin) another advantage of open source. 14:49 ebegin francharb was working at biblibre in France before and is now working for inLibro, here in Montreal. That is what I called « No Employer Lock In ». 14:49 oleonard ebegin++ 14:49 cait :) 14:50 cait ebegin: it's great he is working with you now :) 14:50 francharb :) 14:51 mtompset Interesting turn of phrase. 14:52 mtompset francharb: Were you a Canadian working in France, or are you a French person working in Canada now? 14:53 francharb mtompset, french working in canada now ;) 14:53 mtompset Welcome to Canada. :) 14:53 francharb thank you! 14:53 francharb where are you from mtompset ? 14:54 mtompset I'm in Ontario. I'm a Canadian. :) 14:54 francharb I guessed you were canadian... hehe 14:54 francharb where in ontario? 15:12 mmm45 hello 15:13 mmm45 I am trying to upgrade our catalog to 3.14.0 15:13 mmm45 but when running the dependencies i get errors like this one error building lib/Crypt/Eksblowfish.o from 'lib/Crypt/Eksblowfish.c' at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/ExtUtils/CBuilder/Base.pm line 177. 15:16 mmm45 Warning: Prerequisite 'Class::Mix => 0.001' for 'ZEFRAM/Crypt-Eksblowfish-0.009.tar.gz' failed when processing 'ZEFRAM/Class-Mix-0.005.tar.gz' with 'make_test => NO one dependency not OK (Params::Classify); additionally test harness failed'. Continuing, but chances to succeed are limited. 15:20 jcamins mmm45: sounds like you're installing using CPAN, which you should not do. Install the libcrypt-eksblowfish-perl package. 15:20 mmm45 ooohhhh 15:20 mmm45 apt-get, right? 15:22 mmm45 sorry 15:22 mmm45 i must be doing something wrong 15:22 mmm45 E: Invalid operation libcrypt-eksblowfish-perl 15:22 jcamins You need to install it. 15:22 jcamins man apt-get 15:22 jcamins I mean, you need to install the package. 15:24 oleonard nengard: Bug 11288 is about the fact that there is a "not checked out" error message along with the hold message? 15:24 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11288 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , checkin showing multiple error messages 15:25 mmm45 i installed the package as recommended 15:25 mmm45 i get this error in the browser 15:25 mmm45 "use" not allowed in expression at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 79, at end of line syntax error at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 79, near "head1 SYNOPSIS use CGI" BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 80. 15:25 nengard yes oleonard - which is actually an accurate message - but people are complaining so I complained on their behalf 15:26 oleonard In my tests that message appears going back to at least 3.8.x 15:26 oleonard I tested by checking in an item which wasn't checked out but had a hold on it. 15:26 nengard I thought it was there for a while 15:27 nengard I think when people are upgraded they notice things they didn't notice before ... 15:27 nengard did it always look the same? 15:27 jcamins mmm45: sounds like you might have tried to merge local changes, and ran into problems. 15:27 mmm45 aahhh 15:28 oleonard nengard: Styling has changed some in each version since 3.8.x 15:28 nengard Well I don't know why people are noticing it now .... 15:29 jcamins You'll need to fix whatever errors may have occurred. At a guess, the merge removed an = sign before head1 on that line. 15:29 jcamins Good luck. 15:29 oleonard The new style has caused their eyes to notice something that they had trained themselves to ignore? :) 15:30 nengard Could be 15:30 nengard happens to me too 15:30 nengard although usually i spot things that make me pleasantly surprised :) 15:30 nengard like "How did I miss that before?" 15:30 oleonard By the way nengard, the screenshot suggests to me that they need to clear their browser cache to get the correct styling 15:30 nengard oh! Okay I'll mention that 15:31 oleonard We saw the same thing right after our upgrade 15:33 oleonard when did the password encryption change in Koha? 15:34 mmm45 [Mon Nov 18 12:41:49 2013] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate entry 'CalculateFinesOnReturn' for key 'PRIMARY' at /home/koha/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 6976. 15:35 cait you can ignore that 15:35 cait that says you already had the pref 15:35 cait it got backported into your version most likely 15:36 mmm45 awesome 15:38 nengard oleonard bug 9611 15:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Changing the password hashing algorithm from MD5 to more secure Bcrypt 15:42 oleonard Not in 3.12, so that doesn't have anything to do with the SIP login problems we're seeing randomly 15:45 cait the sip login is ugly 15:45 cait the code isnot using the api 15:45 cait but does it's own thing 15:46 cait we didn't have problems so fr, but right now I think it won't work with ldap for example 15:48 mmm45 any suggestions about this error: Bareword "C4::Auth_with_cas::multipleAuth" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 1065. BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth.pm line 1607. 15:49 mmm45 or this: Compilation failed in require at /home/koha/kohaclone/mainpage.pl line 25. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /home/koha/kohaclone/mainpage.pl line 25. 15:54 mtompset mainpage.pl? That's because of your C4/Auth.pm problem. 15:55 cait mmm45: there might be other packages missing - they ar elisted in the release notes 15:55 mmm45 i'm not sure i understand what the problem is in C4/Auth 15:57 cait i'd make sure first you have all required dependencies installed 15:57 cait and then go from there 15:57 cait are you using CAS? 15:57 cait is one of the sysprefs activated? 15:58 mmm45 I am not using CAS 15:58 mtompset I suspect the Koha::AuthUtils fails, because you don't have the blowfish dependency. 15:58 mmm45 we are using Auth_with_ldap 15:58 mtompset Do you have koha_perl_deps.pl somewhere? Run that. 15:59 mmm45 i'll try it right now 15:59 mtompset -- /path/to/koha_perl_deps.pl -m -u 15:59 mtompset Actually -m -u -r, since there is no need to look for non-required dependencies. 16:00 mmm45 this is the required dependency: DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader 16:00 mtompset sudo apt-get install libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl 16:01 mtompset I think I ran into that lack of dependency myself last night. 16:01 mtompset I thought it was because I was rolling my own distribution. 16:02 * mtompset puts on his chauffeur hat. 16:02 mmm45 :-) 16:06 cait bye all have a nice weekend 16:28 reiveune bye 16:56 oleonard Hi ashimema 17:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #133 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #130 21 hr ago) 17:20 gaetan_B bye ! 17:23 ashimema Hi Oleonard. 17:24 ashimema Sorry. slow reply.. been hoovering.. demstic bliss aye.. 17:24 ashimema *domestic.. even 17:24 oleonard I wondered what all the racket was 17:24 ashimema haha.. 17:25 ashimema btw.. did you ever write up any notes on best practice with OPACUserCSS and OPACUserJS sysprefs with the bootstrap theme? 17:26 ashimema I still wonder whether some boilerplate aught to be put in those prefs at install time now bootstrap is default (maybe with the note to say it's bootstrap specific) 17:27 oleonard I got started on it: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Bootstrap_OPAC 17:27 oleonard I'm working on a blog post too, but have lots of distractions at the moment 17:28 bag :) 17:28 bag distractions-- 17:28 ashimema awesome.. that's a great start oleonard.. thanks for that.. 17:28 oleonard Yes, down with anything distracting me from Koha! ;) 17:28 ashimema I'll direct our staff to it.. they were quizzing me earlier about it. 17:29 bag sign me up for that too :D 17:29 ashimema likewise on the distractions front.. koha is the day job.. yet the day job still gets in the way ;) 17:31 jcamins oleonard: layouts for 0-390 and 342-479? 17:32 * oleonard shrugs 17:33 * jcamins is checking if one of those is a typo, and will fix it if it is. 17:34 jcamins It is not a typo. 17:34 jcamins Interesting. 17:34 wahanui well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 17:35 * cait waves 17:35 jcamins I guess both are in effect from 342-390 px wide. 17:44 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #133: STILL FAILING in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/133/ 17:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #134 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #130 22 hr ago) 17:57 tcohen ok, i don't belive you jenkins_koha 17:57 tcohen I released anyway 17:57 tcohen :-P 18:00 tcohen bye #koha 18:04 cait tcohen++ 18:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #134: STILL FAILING in 26 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/134/ 18:16 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Update release notes for 3.12.7 release 18:16 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.12.07 release 18:16 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Increment version for 3.12.7 release 18:54 francharb cait, wizzyrea , by the way! I found a solution for my items problem 18:54 francharb it was the database 18:54 cait oh! 18:54 francharb I dropped it 18:54 cait what was with it? 18:55 cait oh 18:55 cait and then it worked? 18:55 francharb and rerun the installer 18:55 francharb and it works 18:55 wahanui However, now everything else is broken. 18:55 oleonard Nice one wahanui 18:55 francharb :) 19:59 gmcharlt tcohen++ 20:07 cait good night! 20:07 wahanui It'll all be over soon... 20:27 pianohacker hallo 20:30 bag hola pianohacker 20:43 * chris_n just discovered that sourcefire was purchased by cisco 20:43 chris_n I wonder how that will unfold for snort, clamav, and friends 20:53 tcohen #koha: what should we do about the utf8 bug? 20:53 jcamins tcohen: insist that everyone use English from now on? 20:53 tcohen heh 20:54 tcohen you should wave the sarcasm flag just in case 20:54 tcohen the thing is, i cannot reproduce any of the screenshots 20:55 jcamins tcohen: maybe I'm serious. 20:55 tcohen sarcasm flag 20:55 jcamins lol 20:56 tcohen reproduced! 20:56 tcohen yeah, its damn broken 20:57 tcohen *sigh http://snag.gy/ypo4s.jpg 20:58 tcohen i'll close the bug as WONTFIX with a message deprecating multi-language support 20:58 jcamins Wow. 20:58 jcamins That's impressive. 20:58 tcohen that's evidence 20:58 jcamins That's really impressive. 20:58 pianohacker :Ä 20:58 rangi double encoding bites again 20:59 tcohen first, it doesn't break with ASCII+diacritics 20:59 jcamins Who knew that Ä was such a common letter? 20:59 tcohen so, we are letting Perl guess the encoding at some point 20:59 rangi and none if the patches fix it 20:59 rangi well they do, until you switch back to english 21:00 tcohen if someone takes a look at 11096, when i'm back from my honeymoon next week i'll take on this bug 21:00 rangi will do 21:00 pianohacker honeymoon? Congrats tcohen 21:01 rangi ah yep i started on that and found the eval thing, now its fixed i should be able to test and sign off 21:02 rangi tcohen: my guess is we are munching it on save 21:03 rangi and then trying to do the same thing again on display 21:03 tcohen that's correct, at some point 21:04 rangi yeah i think id start looking at where we save the category name 21:05 rangi but might be wrong 21:05 tcohen in english it shows ok.... so.... 21:05 tcohen maybe is something about guessing the encoding of the translated templates 21:05 rangi yeah in english its ok, but the patches break it 21:05 rangi so yeah i think you are right 21:06 rangi what happens when you tell the browser its a different encoding? 21:07 tcohen iso is worse :-D 21:07 tcohen to reproduce just copy some russian strings and use it for description of the patron type 21:07 jcamins tcohen: did you try KOI8R? 21:07 rangi but you have to be running in non english templates 21:08 rangi thats why i couldnt reproduce 21:08 tcohen generate the ru-RU templates 21:08 rangi will give it a try 21:08 tcohen jcamins: yes, much uglier results 21:08 jcamins tcohen: huh. 21:08 tcohen gotta run 21:08 tcohen girlfriend freaking out... 21:08 tcohen heh 21:08 tcohen byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 21:09 rangi hehe cya :) 21:09 tcohen gotta get her to the SPA 21:09 tcohen cya 21:18 rangi yep i can totally reproduce but only in non english templates 21:19 rangi however it is only that patron categories 21:20 rangi if i go anywhere else it is fine, including in the patrons name etc 21:21 rangi so i think on the whole that its doing the right thing, just in one place we are messing up and double encoding the whole template, because the category is messing it up 21:22 jcamins rangi: I think patron categories is using a different template plugin, isn't it? 21:22 rangi could well be 21:22 rangi cos i note 21:22 rangi that on the modify page of a patron its fine 21:22 rangi and in the admin section fine also 21:23 rangi the only broken place i can find so far is that one page 21:29 rangi hmm 21:29 rangi >[% categorie.description | html_entity %] 21:31 pablito hi 21:32 pablito can someone help me with a Koha installation error in the latest Debian 21:32 pablito I'm installing Koha 3.12 by sudo apt-get install koha-common 21:33 pablito and I got the following error: 21:33 rangi jcamins: and its not that, commenting out that include (patrons-toolbar.inc) and the page is still broken its the search one 21:33 rangi jcamins: im not expecting you to answer just talking out loud :) 21:34 rangi and its definitely patron-search.inc that is the culprit 21:36 rangi pablito: didnt see your error 21:36 pablito koha-common : Depends: libalgorithm-checkdigits-perl but it is not installable 21:36 pablito Depends: libauthen-cas-client-perl but it is not installable 21:36 pablito Depends: libbiblio-endnotestyle-perl but it is not installable 21:36 pablito Depends: libbusiness-isbn-perl but it is not installable 21:37 pablito Depends: libcache-memcached-fast-perl but it is not installable 21:37 pablito Depends: libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl but it is not going to be installed 21:37 pablito Depends: libcgi-session-serialize-yaml-perl but it is not installable 21:37 pablito Depends: libdata-ical-perl but it is not installable 21:37 pablito Depends: libdatetime-event-ical-perl but it is not installable 21:37 pablito Depends: libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl but it is not installable 21:37 pablito there are more similar lines of erros after this 21:38 rangi and you have the right apt repo set up eh? 21:38 pablito I have this: deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main 21:38 pablito in my koha.list file 21:39 rangi because those are all there 21:39 rangi what does 21:39 rangi apt-cache policy libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl 21:39 rangi tell you 21:39 rangi or 21:40 rangi any of the others 21:43 pablito libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl: 21:43 pablito Installed: (none) 21:43 pablito Candidate: 0.04-2 21:43 pablito Version table: 21:43 pablito 0.04-2 0 21:43 pablito 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/ oldstable/main amd64 Packages 21:43 rangi what happens if you just try to install that? 21:43 pablito well, I tried the repo for 3.12 it didn't work, so I revert to the oldstable 3.10 and same error 21:44 jcamins pablito: oldstable is now 3.12. 21:44 jcamins squeeze is 3.14. 21:44 pablito ah ok 21:44 rangi no if you try to install the missing dependencies? 21:45 jcamins I think. eythian was packaging 3.14 last night, so I presume he changed squeeze to 3.14 and oldstable to 3.12. 21:45 pablito i tried running: sudo apt-get -f install and nothing happpened 21:45 jcamins pablito: but what about `sudo apt-get install libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl`? 21:46 pablito Reading package lists... Done 21:46 pablito Building dependency tree 21:46 pablito Reading state information... Done 21:46 pablito Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have 21:46 pablito requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable 21:46 pablito distribution that some required packages have not yet been created 21:46 pablito or been moved out of Incoming. 21:46 pablito The following information may help to resolve the situation: 21:46 pablito The following packages have unmet dependencies: 21:46 pablito libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl : Depends: libcache-memcached-perl but it is not installable or 21:46 pablito libcache-memcached-fast-perl but it is not installable 21:46 wahanui i already had it that way, pablito. 21:46 pablito E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. 21:47 pablito hmm> 21:47 pablito ? 21:47 rangi ah yeah theres your problem those should be in your full debian repo 21:47 rangi libcache-memcached-perl 21:47 rangi is in debian proper 21:47 pablito so what should I do? 21:48 rangi what does apt-cache policy libcache-memcached-perl 21:48 rangi say 21:48 pablito it says: 21:48 rangi (this isnt really a koha problem now, those packages are in koha, not in debian so you should check you apt sources ) 21:48 pablito libcache-memcached-perl: 21:48 pablito Installed: (none) 21:48 pablito Candidate: (none) 21:48 pablito Version table: 21:49 rangi yeah theres the problem 21:49 rangi that is definitely in wheezy 21:49 pablito so you want me to show the content of sources.list? 21:49 rangi http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libcache-memcached-perl 21:49 rangi not really no 21:50 rangi but you need to figure out why you dont have a correct setup for debian 21:50 pablito yeh, that's what I'm afraid of 21:50 pablito someone else setup debian for me 21:50 rangi ahh 21:50 jcamins Also, as an aside, use libcache-memcached-fast-perl not libcache-memcached-perl. 21:51 rangi maybe its still set up to use a dvd or cd instead of the debian apt repos 21:51 jcamins Cache::Memcached is not Unicode safe. 21:51 pablito ah that's it 21:51 pablito the sources.list indicates that 21:51 rangi you'll need to fix that 21:51 pablito so I should comment it out righgt? 21:52 rangi if it has settings of a proper one then yep 21:52 rangi if not commenting it out wont fix it until you have that 21:53 pablito can you give me an example of a good repot setting? 21:55 pianohacker What's Bernardo's username? bgkriegel? 21:56 rangi yep pianohacker 21:57 rangi pablito: can you do this 21:57 pianohacker thanks rangi 21:57 rangi sudo apt-get install netselect 21:57 rangi i hope that is on the dvd 21:57 rangi doesnt matter if you cant, that will just help you find a fast/close server 21:58 pablito ah ok 21:58 rangi netselect-apt is even better 21:58 pablito ok 21:58 pablito i already comment out the DVD repo 21:58 pianohacker rangi: Posted an update to bug 10486 that fixes another pazpar2 configuration issue 21:58 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10486 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Needs Signoff , Allow external Z39.50 targets to be searched from the OPAC 21:59 rangi sudo netselect-apt wheezy 21:59 rangi or just pick one from 21:59 rangi http://www.debian.org/mirror/list 21:59 pablito ok 22:00 pianohacker (and thanks for rebasing the patch) 22:01 rangi sweet 22:01 rangi fixed the issue 22:05 francharb bye all 22:05 francharb have a good week end! 22:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #358 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 22:12 pablito rangi: I put in the nearest repo in sources.list and updated but still get the same errors 22:12 pablito The following packages have unmet dependencies: 22:12 pablito koha-common : Depends: libauthen-cas-client-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:12 pablito Depends: libcache-fastmmap-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:12 pablito Depends: libcache-memcached-fast-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:12 pablito Depends: libcache-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libcgi-session-driver-memcached-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 wahanui i already had it that way, pablito. 22:13 pablito Depends: libcgi-session-serialize-yaml-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libclass-accessor-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libcrypt-eksblowfish-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdata-ical-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdata-paginator-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdate-calc-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdate-manip-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdatetime-event-ical-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdatetime-format-ical-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdatetime-format-mysql-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdatetime-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 rangi well 22:13 pablito Depends: libdatetime-set-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdatetime-timezone-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdbd-mock-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdbd-mysql-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdbd-sqlite2-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libdbix-class-schema-loader-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 rangi you obviously didnt get a valid repo in there 22:13 pablito Depends: libgd-barcode-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl but it is not going to be installed or 22:13 pablito libgd-gd2-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libgraphics-magick-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libgravatar-url-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libhttp-oai-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: liblingua-stem-snowball-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: liblist-moreutils-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 rangi and yeah that was a bit of a big paste 22:13 pablito Depends: libmarc-charset-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libmarc-crosswalk-dublincore-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libmemoize-memcached-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libmoose-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libmoosex-storage-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libmoosex-types-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 jcamins For future reference, we have a pastebin at paste.koha-community.org 22:13 pablito Depends: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libpdf-reuse-barcode-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 rangi you will need to fix your debian 22:13 pablito Depends: libpoe-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libreadonly-xs-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:13 pablito Depends: libsms-send-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libstring-rewriteprefix-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libtemplate-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libtest-strict-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libtest-www-mechanize-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libtest-yaml-valid-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libtext-csv-xs-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libtext-unaccent-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libxml-libxml-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libxml-libxslt-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libxml-rss-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libyaml-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: libyaml-syck-perl but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: apache2 22:14 pablito Depends: apache2-mpm-itk but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito Depends: mysql-client 22:14 pablito Depends: perl-doc but it is not going to be installed 22:14 pablito E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. 22:14 pablito sorry 22:14 pablito hehe 22:14 pablito ok, thanks 22:16 rangi try 22:16 rangi sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update 22:17 rangi if that doesnt work, you might want to try a debian channel or something 22:23 rambutan I'm glad rangi isn't given to understatement 22:24 pablito it still doesn't work, but thank you for your help 22:24 pablito have a good night/day everyone :-) 22:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #358: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/358/ 22:45 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 10728: fix additional log noise generated by subscription-renew.pl 22:45 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Field: Bug 10704: make OPAC highlighting work across previous/next travel 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10728 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , subscription-renew generates unnecessary warnings in logs 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10704 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Search term highlighting doesn't work beyond the first results page 22:46 jenkins_koha Starting build #359 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:10 pianohacker rangi: I apologize, I really do not know why I continue to struggle so much with licenses 23:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #359: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/359/ 23:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10765 - [SIGNED-OFF] Update POD of C4::Koha::GetSupportList() to use TT syntax 23:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10764 - Update POD of C4::Items::GetItemStatus() to use TT syntax 23:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10763 - [SIGNED-OFF] Update POD of C4::Creators::Lib::html_table() to use TT syntax 23:29 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 8670 - Update POD of C4::Branch::GetBranches() to use TT syntax 23:29 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10645: adding missing zebra languages to koha-create manpage 23:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10765 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Update POD of C4::Koha::GetSupportList() to use TT syntax 23:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10764 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Update POD of C4::Items::GetItemStatus() to use TT syntax 23:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10763 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Update POD of C4::Creators::Lib::html_table() to use TT syntax 23:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8670 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Update POD of C4::Branch::GetBranches() to use TT syntax 23:29 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10645 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , Missing zebra languages in koha-create manpage