Time Nick Message 00:32 * dcook waves from windows 8...then cringes 00:38 wizzyrea banish him! 00:39 wizzyrea http://replygif.net/thumbnail/796.gif 00:39 mtj dcook, i am officially 'tech support' for my dad's win8 laptop… i hate win8 soo much :/ 00:40 mtj its his 1st computer too, the poor guy 00:41 wizzyrea http://replygif.net/796 00:41 wizzyrea there we go 00:41 mtj his app-store thingy broke about 4 weeks… now its impossible to install any software on it :/ 00:42 wizzyrea "daaad... just use linux!" 00:43 dcook wizzyrea: <3 00:43 dcook For everything you've said since I arrived in channel 00:44 eythian yeah, I refuse to tech support anything that's not Linux these days. 00:44 eythian I'm not particularly competent in windows any more anyway. 00:44 eythian I think I got off the train after windows 98. 00:44 dcook eythian: I don't know if anyone is competent in Windows... 00:45 * ibeardslee managed to convert his mum's laptop to ubuntu 00:45 dcook I'm divided on whether I should try to just run everything through a VM... 00:46 mtj i might try pushing linux on dad, over xmas 00:46 jcamins dcook: install Cygwin, a decent terminal emulator, and you'll hardly be able to tell that you're running everything in a Linux VM. 00:50 mtj i've been telling dad that the 8.1 update might fix his borked laptop… only to hear its been causing so many BSODs that its been recalled :/ 00:51 jcamins mtj: really? I thought they did the 8.1 update because no one could use Windows 8. 00:52 mtj yeah, afaik thats correct ^^ 00:54 dcook ibeardslee++ 00:54 jcamins There's one positive thing I'll say about Windows 8. 00:54 jcamins It boots very fast. 00:54 dcook I keep thinking about getting a new laptop and then scrubbing everything on both and putting Linux on both.. 00:54 jcamins Almost as fast as Linux. 00:54 * dcook ponders that 00:54 dcook Windows 8 boots fast on the laptop here 00:54 dcook Takes forever when creating a new user 00:55 wizzyrea I have a ssd, it boots Mint wicked quick. 00:56 * jcamins just read "eight reasons to hate Windows 8.1." 00:56 jcamins I'm sure I wouldn't like it, but the reasons were silly. 00:56 jcamins "If you don't want the standard behavior you have to change a setting to get non-default behavior." 00:57 jcamins Errr... should I be hating Linux? 00:57 jcamins 'Cause I have to change lots of settings if I want non-standard behavior. 00:59 eythian why do you want non standard behaviour? Are you an anarchist? 00:59 jcamins eythian: I must be! 01:00 jcamins Was the technology press better in the past, or am I just a more discerning reader? 01:05 wizzyrea democratisation of content creation increases the quantity of content, but not necessarily the quality. 01:06 wizzyrea Though certainly there are people who wouldn't publish at all, if they didn't have the web. 01:06 wizzyrea The Oatmeal, for example. 01:10 eythian the tech press has gone a bit downhill I feel. More "top 10", less "here's a detailed review" 01:11 wizzyrea top 10 is easy 01:21 dcook All right. Time to power down and move this thing around... 01:50 dac There, that should be better 01:50 dac Hmm 01:52 wizzyrea hrm. Fines paid at branch A for an item from branch B 01:52 wizzyrea is that even possible? 01:52 wizzyrea I don't think we keep *where* a fine is paid... 01:53 wizzyrea except in relation to the user that did it... 01:53 wizzyrea that should read "report out" 01:55 dcook Hmm 01:56 dcook I imagine most systems tend to share finances. 01:56 dcook Err, public library systems. 01:56 * dcook is fairly sure he was always able to pay his fines at any branch 01:56 dcook Mind you, it only ever happened two or three times in my life, so... 01:56 wizzyrea right, that's what they are doing, but they are separate entities financially 01:57 dcook That seems odd(ish) to me 01:57 dcook But I'm not an accountant. 01:57 wizzyrea it's so they can determine how much they owe each other 01:57 wizzyrea in reciprocal fines. 01:57 dcook Yeah, I was just pondering that one 01:57 dcook I think that's the sort of thing people might track with their POS? 01:57 dcook Maybe not though 01:58 dcook It's certainly interesting 01:58 wizzyrea I think I can get the branch of the processing user (which may... or may not!) correspond to the branch where the fine was paid... 02:00 dcook Sounds like a tricky one 02:00 wizzyrea yeah, it does doesn't it. 02:01 dcook (Unrelated note: The one good thing about Windows 8 is that it's making me look through all the different options and preferences...so now I'm changing things that used to irritate me in past versions. Of course, the things that annoy me about Windows 8 don't appear to be changeable...) 02:01 * dcook can sometimes state the obvious, eh? 02:09 dcook Yay, got rid of some of the annoying things... 02:09 dcook Although in retrospect, it's not just Windows 8. It's also Office 2013... 02:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #227 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch '3.14.x' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=beacc2625a1d1fdbfedce84b5d37d72d8a0d81fe> / Update history.txt for Koha 3.14.0 release <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=3fe0e784516309050fc5b6eda1ab7fdaf7643048> / release notes for Koha 3.14.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=07b5f01c07b340f9d9cfaeaeb47d65cd640e2312> / DBR 02:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #1516 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 02:41 pastebot "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "What obvious thing am I missing?!" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2 02:45 mtompset DOH! Found it. 03:12 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #227: UNSTABLE in 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/227/ 03:12 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.14.00.000: Koha 3.14.0 03:12 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: release notes for Koha 3.14.0 03:12 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Update history.txt for Koha 3.14.0 release 03:28 dcook http://www.modern.ie/en-us/f12 03:28 dcook So what you're saying is...when you follow web standards, you get better performance? 03:28 * dcook wonders if IE 11 does follow web standards... 03:29 dcook Has an "install new versions" automatically checkbox which is nice.. 03:37 dcook ie-- 03:37 dcook Still sucks 03:37 dcook Ugh, and has extra stuff regular browsers don't as well.. 03:41 dcook Hmm, apparently you can run "apps" and applications at the same time 03:41 dcook But "apps" don't appear on your desktop at all 03:41 dcook ... 03:41 jcamins dcook: well, IE is one of the best web browseres in the world. 03:41 jcamins *browsers 03:41 dcook I like it better as browseres :p 03:42 jcamins There is no browser better for downloading Firefox than IE. 03:42 jcamins Or downloading Chrome. 03:42 dcook Totes 03:42 * dcook is just thinking from a developer perspective 03:42 dcook Someone is going to be using this 03:42 dcook And it's awful 03:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #228 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #226 8 hr 56 min ago) 03:54 eythian I do not thing German spoken word comedy is likely to get me through the afternoon... 03:54 eythian *think 03:54 * eythian finds another album 03:56 dcook Whoa, when you download Adobe Reader, they offer to package Chrome with it 03:57 * dcook wonders if one day we'll be drinking Google bottled water... 03:58 eythian wahanui: it's happening is <reply>http://i.imgur.com/YtKWRKk.gif 03:58 wahanui OK, eythian. 04:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1516: SUCCESS in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1516/ 04:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.14.00.000: Koha 3.14.0 04:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: release notes for Koha 3.14.0 04:23 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Update history.txt for Koha 3.14.0 release 04:24 mtompset YAY! 04:25 gmcharlt mtompset: new puppy? 04:25 gmcharlt new kitten? 04:25 gmcharlt ;) 04:25 mtompset successful build. 04:26 mtompset and I finally got some code working to parse a bunch of XML files to extract donor information. 04:26 mtompset oh, and the release of 3.14 :) 04:27 BobB gmcharlt ++ 04:28 dcook mtompset: If you want/have any tips, I'd be glad to know ;) 04:28 dcook Looks like I need to re-run the HTML parsing I did for a friend the other day 04:28 dcook And now I just got a problem of an mp3 trying to become a pdf 04:28 dcook Nasty.. 04:28 dcook It should know its place 04:29 mtompset I finally find a sample piece of code that did the nice recursive thing on the XML tree, so I was able to use that to find the nodes I want, and then build up arrays of hashes. 04:30 dcook O_o 04:30 dcook If you're not using xpath, you probably want to be 04:31 dcook I wrote a recursive function that did something like you're describing but it didn't work anywhere near as good as using xpath 04:32 mtompset Yes, but the problem is I don't know what the structure is going to be. 04:32 mtompset xpath seems to require me knowing things. 04:32 dcook Mmm, a certain amount of things 04:33 dcook Being XML, there should be a certain amount of structure as well, no? o_O 04:34 mtompset Yes, but not every donor node has the same information in it. 04:35 mtompset addr1 yes, but sometimes an addr2, sometimes and addr3. 04:35 mtompset anyways... I have something functional, even if it is ugly. :) 04:35 dcook Not really sure what you mean, but I'm glad it worked out :) 04:35 dcook Functional works :D 04:36 dcook gmcharlt: Do you ever have trouble with your cat waking you up in the middle of the night with its meowing? 04:36 * dcook figues the koha channel could double as cat support as well :p 04:37 gmcharlt dcook: and pouncing on my toes, and standing on my chest, staring, and cuddling up right next to my ear and using her loudest purr... 04:37 dcook How do you get to sleep? 04:37 * dcook hasn't gotten that much sleep since getting back to Australia 04:38 dcook I don't think the cats were pleased that I left 04:38 dcook And now they're exacting brutal revenge 04:40 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 04:40 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #228: FIXED in 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/228/ 04:41 gmcharlt dcook: what is this concept you're referring to when you say "sleep"? 04:43 gmcharlt http://koha-community.org/koha-3-14-0-released/ 04:44 mtompset That's a lot of .po files coming down the pipe. 04:45 dcook Yay 3.14.0! 04:45 dcook gmcharlt++ 04:45 dcook Evidently, it's a concept with which you're not very familiar ;) 04:45 dcook I usually get quite a bit of it, but those cats.. 04:45 gmcharlt how old are they? 04:46 dcook Mmm, about 7 iirc 04:46 dcook But the noisiest one acts even older 04:46 dcook He's a grump 04:46 dcook He's the ginger I post photos of all the time 04:51 gmcharlt ours are about 13 04:53 dcook How many do you have? I can only recall seeing the one 04:54 eythian curious, in my email client font, π looks very much like Π04:54 eythian just smaller 04:54 eythian without the wavy top I'm used to 04:55 gmcharlt eythian: yeah, π doesn't look great in a sans serif font, IMO 04:55 gmcharlt dcook: 3 04:56 rangi gmcharlt++ 04:57 gmcharlt rangi++ # showing evidence of having actually looked at the release blog post ;) 04:57 rangi :) 05:02 dcook Touché, gmcharlt 05:02 * dcook goes off to read it 05:03 dcook hehe 05:03 dcook gmcharlt++ 05:04 mtompset I guess tomorrow/today is roll a distribution day. :) 05:05 mtompset Only 9?! I guess I should try to improve on that number. :P 05:09 dcook This might sound weird, but I'm really pleased about the changing of the "Dropbox" label 05:10 dcook When I first started using Koha, I thought it referred to the actual "Dropbox" product 05:10 * dcook then went on to wonder why on Earth you'd want to integrate Koha and Dropbox 05:10 dcook Particularly in circulation :p 05:11 dcook Looks like a hell of a release 05:11 * dcook will need to set up a new VM on this computer...looks like it'll be 3.14 :) 05:21 mtompset Well, that blip seems like a good note to leave one. 05:21 mtompset ^one^on^ 05:21 mtompset Have a great day, #koha. 05:21 mtompset So long and thanks for the fish, gmcharlt. :) 05:21 mtompset (the release of 3.14) 05:34 dpk1 Has anyone here played around with the new bootstrap theme and especially conversion from prog to bootstrap? 05:36 dcook Not yet. Probably not for a while in my case :/ 05:56 dpk1 I tried just switching over the theme and it got into some wierd loop where it kept putting a "logged out" window despite me doing nothing. I think it might be related to the fact that we don't normally us logins on the OPAC 06:08 * dcook despises the acquisitions module... 06:10 dcook What the ever living... 06:22 dcook saghsa;dghasg 06:23 dcook When using AnonymousSuggestions in 3.8.0, all purchase suggestions are anonymous, even when logged on... 06:23 dcook At least on ours... 06:27 dcook Man 3.8 is so out of date.. 06:28 dcook Gotta love that old bug that wipes out your system preferences when searching... 06:28 dcook Or rather, picks out the string.. 06:29 * cait waves 06:29 cait time to go home dcook :) 06:29 dcook I just ruined the userjs by doing a search then saving... 06:30 dcook I'm sure we have a backup but I'm also sure I don't have access to it 06:30 dcook Meeting up with folk at 8 as well and have some work to do for a friend before then, so 2.5 hours.. 06:30 cait go look in your action_logs 06:31 cait if you are lucky you store syspref changes there :) 06:31 cait ithas saved me a few itimes 06:33 dcook I was just thinking action logs right before I clicked on this icon 06:33 dcook Great idea, cait :) 06:34 dcook You are a goddess, cait 06:34 cait lol 06:35 dcook If you didn't have the same (nick)name as my sister, I would name my first born after you 06:35 cait nope, i just make mistakes myself 06:35 cait you still can name it after your sister and ge 2 for one 06:35 cait just don't tell her :P 06:36 dcook lol 06:36 dcook :P 06:50 cait oh 06:50 cait stupid timezones - i missed the pie party?? 06:50 dcook It wasn't much of a party :p 06:51 cait then you all did it wrong and i am even more disappointed :) 06:55 dcook hehe 06:56 dcook It looks like a very good release based on the notes 07:01 cait yeah we have been busy 07:01 cait i only realize how busy when i see the release notes 07:01 cait most of the time during the release i feel too slow :) 07:11 wizzyrea Pi! 07:11 wizzyrea Pi! 07:11 wizzyrea confetti! 07:11 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` 07:11 wizzyrea more confetti! 07:11 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 07:11 wizzyrea gmcharlt++ 07:39 * Oak waves 07:39 Oak @seen Brooke 07:39 huginn Oak: Brooke was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 1 day, 10 hours, 32 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <Brooke> hey cait :D 07:39 magnuse Pi! gmcharlt++ 07:39 cait hi Oak :) 07:39 cait hi magnuse :) 07:39 cait gmcharlt++ 07:39 Oak hello Katrin! 07:39 Oak magnuse 07:40 magnuse Oak: 07:40 Oak gmcharlt++ 07:40 magnuse gah, stupid tab complete ;-) 07:40 Oak :) 07:40 cait have to go to work :) bbiab 07:40 marcelr hi #koha 07:40 Oak later cait 07:41 Oak hello marcelr 07:41 cait good morning marcelr :) 07:41 marcelr hi Oak cait 07:41 magnuse hiya marcelr 07:41 marcelr hi magnuse 07:46 * magnuse chastises himself for signing off one less patch than he contributed to Pi 07:54 reiveune hello 07:54 Oak Bonjour reiveune ! 08:10 * cait waves 08:12 wizzyrea mornin cait 08:12 cait hi wizzyrea 08:12 cait pi1 08:12 cait pi! 08:17 marcelr cait: could you please check my patch on the release team changes? 08:17 marcelr bug 7143 08:17 wahanui i heard bug 7143 was ready for an easy signoff 08:17 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Bug for tracking changes to the about page 08:17 marcelr right wahanui 08:17 cait marcelr: yes, but not before tonight, someone might beat me to it 08:18 marcelr ok thanks 08:18 cait I've sent myself a reminder email - thx for taking care of this 08:31 gaetan_B hello 08:34 wizzyrea pi! pi! pi! 08:34 wizzyrea strawberry! Rhubarb! Boysenberry! Coconut cream! 08:34 cait yum! 08:34 wizzyrea steak and cheese! 08:34 cait huh? 08:34 wizzyrea bacon and blue cheese! 08:34 cait oh savoury, good idea :) 08:34 wizzyrea pi! 08:35 wizzyrea vegetarian pi! 08:37 cait you are excited, hm? :) 08:38 rangi evening 08:38 cait mushroom pi! 08:38 cait hi rangi 08:39 magnuse pi! pi! 08:42 wizzyrea I am as excited as the moment dictates ;) 08:42 wizzyrea WHICH IS A LOT. 08:42 cait heh :) 08:42 wizzyrea confetti! 08:42 wahanui confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 08:42 cait :) 08:42 wizzyrea more confetti! 08:42 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' 08:42 cait lol 08:42 magnuse much more confetti! 08:43 magnuse aww... 08:47 wizzyrea hehe 08:47 wizzyrea http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/2064495/confetti-o.gif 08:57 cait hm we should have a new role 08:57 cait have someoen dedicated to send the release notes around and do some advertising :) 08:58 cait Koha pi? 08:58 wahanui Koha pi is coming. 08:58 cait forget koha pie 08:58 cait forget kohe pi 08:58 cait gr 08:58 cait forget koha pi 08:58 wahanui cait: I forgot koha pi 08:58 cait Koha Pi is http://koha-community.org/koha-3-14-0-released/ 08:58 cait koha pi? 08:58 wahanui koha pi is http://koha-community.org/koha-3-14-0-released/ 08:58 cait wizzyrea: as you are here 08:58 cait is the responsive opac up to date? 08:58 cait responsive? 08:58 wahanui responsive is looking real nice 08:58 cait bootstrap? 08:58 wahanui bootstrap is running in a demo at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz. It tracks, reasonably closely, the current master version of Koha. 08:59 cait compiling an email to the coworkers about pi :) 09:15 wizzyrea it should be 09:16 wizzyrea it's reasonably close to master 09:16 wizzyrea our demo at demo.mykoha.co.nz will go up to 3.14 when the packages are ready 09:18 wizzyrea but it probably won't ahve the responsive theme on. 09:18 wizzyrea but responsive will keep the default :) 09:18 wizzyrea it's the better of the two anyway - better data. 09:18 wizzyrea (for the moment) 09:50 wizzyrea http://25.media.tumblr.com/ac45cce196c9d764303bc8b6537eaee4/tumblr_mt0itbYc4E1snj781o1_250.gif 09:51 wizzyrea http://media.tumblr.com/db967459f8014b46901bfa6cd67a3958/tumblr_inline_mjgpt8aqiJ1qz4rgp.gif 10:06 wizzyrea right. Enjoy your Pi, I will catch you all in about 8 hours. :) 12:32 tcohen gmcharlt++ # you rock 12:36 tcohen morning #koha 12:52 marcelr koha 3,14159 26535 89793 23846 26433 83279 50288 41971 69399 37510 ! 12:55 tcohen :-) 12:56 cait ? 12:56 cait hi tcohen :) 12:56 tcohen hicait 12:57 * tcohen is trying to apply 10684 on 3.12.x 13:00 tcohen confetti! 13:00 wahanui confetti is http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpm3j6aNaN1qh8hleo1_400.gif 13:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #126 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 13:41 khall mornin cait, #koha! 13:43 tcohen hi khall! 13:51 cait hi khall :) 15:00 oleonard Hi #koha 15:07 cait hi oleonard :) 15:15 cait i think i am one step closer with the quote of the day problem 15:15 oleonard Oh yeah? What have you found? 15:16 cait it seems to not like when you are missing ids 15:16 cait i did some renumbering and suddenly the quote showed up 15:16 cait but still doing tests 15:17 cait ok, i have got 2 quotes - both have no date yet, ids are 3 and 4 15:17 cait no quote is shown 15:17 jenkins_koha Starting build #229 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) 15:17 cait id 1 and 4 - still no quote 15:17 cait id's are 1 and 2 - quote shows up 15:18 cait ids 15:19 jenkins_koha Starting build #1517 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11207: fix issue where SMS number couldn't be cleared when editing patron <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b15f25d8c672d198cd074fd16f01e1f67fef955e> / DBRev 3.15.00.000: on to what comes after Pi <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7ca5ad5af274b7236dbb22291a4c08599d99305> 15:25 cait *sigh* i am not sure how this works. 15:26 cait ugh 15:26 cait i think i see it 15:26 cait it does a count 15:26 cait on the entries in the table 15:27 cait and then picks a quote in the range of 1-count 15:27 cait when you have deleted a lot of the older entries, it will never find one 15:30 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10809: use branches template plugin in serials search <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ca790997ed6adebb7edafc04b6f1aa136ce7cc2> 15:37 rambutan gmcharlt++ 15:45 cait bug 11279 15:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11279 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Quote of the day feature won't pick a quote 15:45 cait now i feel better 15:45 cait i had bugs I can't explain 15:45 cait hate even :) 15:46 ashimema well found cait 15:49 gmcharlt a not entirely satisfying way of addressing it: select * from quotes order by rand() limit 1; 15:49 gmcharlt not portable, though 15:49 jcamins Randomly generated offset? 15:49 cait mysqlism? 15:49 cait is there a function to do a rand on a list of numbers? 15:49 gmcharlt mysql has rand(), pg ha random() 15:50 cait we could just not do a count, but have the ids 15:50 cait hm 15:50 cait not sure i can explain myself. 15:51 gmcharlt one could fetch the entire list of quotes, then writer Perl to select a random ne 15:51 gmcharlt *one 15:51 cait it might be not too bad on that table, it's not supposed to get really huge. but you never knwo what libraries will do :) 15:51 gmcharlt thousands of quotes == maybe write a cronjob to select the daily one 15:52 cait gmcharlt: could you take a look at the removing of the doubled template plugins sometime? 15:52 jcamins gmcharlt: you don't have to fetch the entire table. 15:52 cait the one we use for branches now has a diacritics problem and the patch would solve it I think 15:52 gmcharlt cait: ok 15:52 jcamins SELECT * FROM quotes ORDER BY id LIMIT $offset, 1; 15:53 gmcharlt jcamins: yeah, that would work 15:54 cait jcamins: what is offset in that case? 15:54 jcamins cait: randomly generated. 15:54 cait from what? 15:54 jcamins The count. 15:54 cait ah 15:55 jcamins Get a count of records in the table that haven't been used today, and then choose an offset between 0 and COUNT-1. 15:55 cait hmm and who sends a patch now? ;) 15:56 jcamins Not me. 15:56 cait do you have your finger on your nose right now? :) 15:56 jcamins lol 15:56 jcamins Yes. 15:56 jcamins :P 15:56 cait I am not sure when iw ill get to it, but hopefully sometime soon 16:11 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #229: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/229/ 16:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.15.00.000: on to what comes after Pi 16:11 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11207: fix issue where SMS number couldn't be cleared when editing patron 16:11 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11207 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Impossibility to remove a sms number 16:12 cait bye all 16:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #230 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:21 * oleonard is just a little disappointed that gmcharlt didn't wait until 3:14PM today for the release... 16:22 nengard hehe 16:23 rambutan :) 16:23 gmcharlt oleonard: which time zone? ;) 16:23 oleonard Yours of course :P 16:24 * gmcharlt doesn't think he could have held out that long against the tide of people asking "is it out yet?" 16:24 gmcharlt @arewethereyet 16:24 huginn gmcharlt: YES! 17:05 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #230: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/230/ 17:05 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10809: use branches template plugin in serials search 17:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , use template branches plugin in serials search 17:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #126: FAILURE in 3 hr 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/126/ 17:13 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10684: add regression test 17:13 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10684: make sure that Koha search does not dies on undecodable records 17:13 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10684: (follow-up) adjust how undecodable records are logged 17:13 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10684 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Koha search dies on undecodable records 17:14 jenkins_koha Starting build #127 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #125 1 day 1 hr ago) 17:19 gaetan_B bye ! 17:22 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1517: SUCCESS in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1517/ 17:22 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.15.00.000: on to what comes after Pi 17:22 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11207: fix issue where SMS number couldn't be cleared when editing patron 17:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11207 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Impossibility to remove a sms number 17:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #1518 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:32 * cait waves 17:35 rambutan waves 17:37 tcohen o/ 17:37 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 17:37 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #127: FIXED in 23 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/127/ 17:42 cait chris_n`: around? :) 17:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11245: fix typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a4fa0a80307bf61a82a180220504c633000db7f> 17:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #231 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 17:56 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10996: Allow numeric subfields to be stripped on export <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=248283fc29b46f59c56769a14f8d811cc61834ff> 17:56 tcohen gmcharlt: around? 17:57 gmcharlt tcohen: yep 17:57 tcohen i wrote you an chris, and noticed you launched a new build for master 17:57 tcohen would you try deleting the cover_db contents before launching the build? 18:00 tcohen and congrats for the pi release, is a great milestone in terms of stability and evolution of the project 18:01 gmcharlt tcohen: I will look into it -- I want to check to see if keeping the cover_db around is useful for tracking changes in coverage 18:01 gmcharlt and secondarily, figure out if we care 18:02 gmcharlt and thanks! 18:08 jenkins_koha Starting build #128 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: FIXED) 18:11 pug Hi guys -- I was looking for a command line tool (not the GUI based marc edit)- to convert csv to any format usable by bulkmarcimport.pl . Any suggestions for such a tool? 18:12 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 18:24 tcohen chris_n`: around? 18:31 chris_n tcohen: here 18:32 rangi gmcharlt: its not needed for tracking coverage change, cos im logging that in jenkins 18:32 tcohen chris_n: C4/Labels/Label.pm 18:33 gmcharlt rangi: then you see no bar to running with tcohen's suggestion? 18:33 tcohen C4::Labels::Label->_guide_box 18:33 rangi nope ive made that change now 18:33 tcohen rangi++ 18:34 tcohen chris_n: what's the expected behaviour when no parameters are passed? 18:34 mtompset tcohen++ # for a good suggestion. Ummm what was it? ;) 18:34 rangi however there is a bigger issue, it doesnt seem to be using a 3.12 db, or running 3.12.x code 18:34 * chris_n looks 18:34 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #128: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/128/ 18:34 rangi 18:11:38 OPAC: Database update needed, redirecting to maintenance. Database is 3.1300015 and Koha is 3.1300042 at /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/Koha_3.12.x/C4/Auth.pm line 578. 18:35 rangi which is weird 18:35 rangi 18:50:10 Commencing build of Revision 29825475bfb38a77738ffd1789cb2ba88f3a62ad (origin/3.12.x) 18:35 rangi 18:50:10 Checking out Revision 29825475bfb38a77738ffd1789cb2ba88f3a62ad (origin/3.12.x) 18:35 tcohen those hashes are right 18:36 rangi 19:07:25 OPAC: Database update needed, redirecting to maintenance. Database is 3.1300015 and Koha is 3.1300042 at /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/Koha_3.12.x/C4/Auth.pm line 578. 18:36 rangi something weird is happening 18:37 tcohen the conf files 18:37 tcohen point to master 18:37 rangi hmm i thought you changed that? 18:37 tcohen opacdir, opachtdos 18:38 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #231: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/231/ 18:38 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11245: fix typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string 18:38 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11245 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string 18:38 chris_n tcohen: if no parameters are passed in it should return nothing (which clearly it does not do atm) 18:38 rangi ah that would do it 18:38 tcohen ok, i'll fix it rangi 18:38 rangi thanks 18:38 chris_n that minimizes collateral damage at least 18:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #232 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:38 chris_n really there should be some feedback to the user 18:39 * cait waves 18:39 tcohen i'll take a look chris_n 18:40 tcohen rangi: will it delete the cover_db files? 18:40 chris_n tcohen: the easiest fix would be to drop in a check and simply return if no params are sent along 18:40 * chris_n has found guide boxes to be only minimally useful in practice 18:41 rangi it should now yep 18:41 * tcohen is trying 18:41 jenkins_koha Starting build #129 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:42 rangi cool 18:42 chris_n heya rangi 18:45 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "rangi: is it a Java thing (tm)+?" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/3 18:45 rangi most likely 18:54 gmcharlt rangi++ 18:55 cait rangi++ and gmcharlt++ 19:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #129: SUCCESS in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/129/ 19:07 cait brb 19:07 tcohen byeeee 19:28 cait back 19:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1518: SUCCESS in 2 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1518/ 19:30 jenkins_koha Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10809: use branches template plugin in serials search 19:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10809 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , use template branches plugin in serials search 19:30 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #232: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/232/ 19:30 jenkins_koha Colin Campbell: Bug 10996: Allow numeric subfields to be stripped on export 19:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10996 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Cannot exclude numeric subfields on export 19:33 jenkins_koha Starting build #357 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #130 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:45 mtompset Well, that's a weird name change. 19:45 mtompset Allow to be stripped -> Cannot exclude?! 19:58 cait ? 20:00 oleonard Bug 10996? 20:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10996 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Cannot exclude numeric subfields on export 20:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #130: SUCCESS in 29 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/130/ 20:13 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #357: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/357/ 20:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #188 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #184 1 mo 10 days ago) 20:27 bag afternoon all :) 20:27 bag gmcharlt++ 20:28 cait hi bag :) 20:28 rambutan bag! 20:28 mtompset Greetings, bag rambutan 20:28 rambutan mtompset! 20:28 wahanui mtompset is, like, catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry 20:28 bag :) 20:29 mtompset Yes, that I am. Finally wrote some XML extracting code to tell me things from these confounded monthly reports. :) 20:29 mtompset And yes, cait, my Allow to Cannot comment was about the bug oleonard pointed at. 20:30 mtompset visible in the jenkins build. 20:30 rangi its not that confusing mtompset 20:30 cait mtompset: sorry, not sure i remember 20:30 rangi you just had it round the wrong way 20:30 rangi the bug is Cannot 20:30 rangi the patch Allows it 20:30 rangi ie fixing the cannot 20:31 mtompset No, it isn't that confusing. Just weird having two different names pop up beside each other. Requires that extra thinking cycle. 20:32 rangi hmm i dont understand that hourly loans question at all 20:32 * rangi passes on that one 20:33 cait i am not sure i want to try and answer... 20:33 oleonard Doesn't know that loan policy is tied to item type, not authorised values? 20:33 cait would be my guess too 20:34 wizzyrea well you can't do loan policy according to location 20:34 wizzyrea so he has got it the wrong way around. 20:34 wizzyrea he needs to have two item types, and one location 20:34 cait or no location at all 20:34 wizzyrea or just two item types 20:34 cait yeah :) 20:34 wizzyrea hehe yea :) 20:35 * oleonard will answer 20:35 cait oleonard++ 20:35 jenkins_koha Starting build #396 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:36 wizzyrea oleonard++ - for leaping on that hand grenade 20:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #396: SUCCESS in 59 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/396/ 20:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add AcqItemSetSubfieldsWhenReceived 20:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add AutoRemoveOverduesRestrictions 20:36 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: update over triggers with AutoRemoveOverduesRestrictions 20:36 cait does someone know how i can stop my git speaking german? 20:36 cait can you tell it to stop that? 20:37 * cait thinks it's like watching big bang theory with german synchronisation 20:37 wizzyrea Dear Katrin's git: stop speaking german! Love, me 20:37 cait lol 20:37 mtompset wizzyrea++ # love the humour. :) 20:37 wizzyrea actually, when you were testing the locale thing, did you set it to de-DE 20:37 wizzyrea maybe git is picking up on it. 20:37 cait i always had it to de-DE 20:38 jenkins_koha Starting build #131 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:38 cait but someone mut have translated it... it started when i updated my ubuntu 20:38 jcamins cait: Achtung! Deutsch zu sprechen ist nicht erlaubt! 20:38 cait lol 20:38 mtompset Did your locale change? 20:38 wizzyrea perhaps you can tell git to use a specific locale instead of the system one 20:38 * wizzyrea really has no idea 20:38 cait maybe i will just switch the system one... in english things often make more sense 20:38 oleonard [off] Direct email reply to me in 3.... 2... 1... 20:38 cait especially when i am trying to google an error 20:39 wizzyrea http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10633564/how-does-one-change-the-language-of-the-command-line-interface-of-git 20:39 jcamins You have to say that very firmly, though, or git will just say "Nein! Ich werde sprechen Deutsch, wenn ich will!" 20:39 mtompset [off] Really? 20:40 oleonard [off] /me is being a pessimist 20:40 rangi chrispin is usually pretty good 20:41 mtompset [off] Didn't want to accuse you of pessimism, just in case it was true, because it is possible. :) 20:41 * oleonard has had a pessimism-inducing week 20:41 wizzyrea frownies. 20:42 mtompset Sorry to hear that, oleonard. :( 20:42 cait wizzyrea++ 20:42 cait no longer KONFLIKT but CONFLICT 20:42 wizzyrea \o/ 20:42 * mtompset cheers. 20:42 wizzyrea stackoverflow++ 20:43 wizzyrea 549 I can get a ferry leaving 26dec and returning 30dec 20:43 wizzyrea (for all of us) 20:44 cait wrong window? :) 20:44 rangi heh 20:44 cait although i like the ferry idea :) 20:44 wizzyrea :D 20:45 wizzyrea hehe yes, wrong window 20:45 wizzyrea at least it wasn't something actually embarrassing. 20:47 oleonard At least you didn't mention how many murder victims/pounds of cocaine/counterfeit beanie babies you were ferrying 20:48 gmcharlt wizzyrea: I misread that rather badly 20:48 gmcharlt I had visions of a ferry carting MARC tags around 20:48 cait lol 20:48 oleonard This new RDA stuff really is confusing! 20:49 rangi this is pretty sweet 20:49 rangi http://www.wetanz.com/proceeds-from-the-new-zealand-gala-premiere-of-the-hobbit-the-desolation-of-smaug-to-go-to-local-charity/ 20:50 jenkins_koha Starting build #397 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:50 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #397: SUCCESS in 15 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/397/ 20:50 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add StaffDetailItemSelection 20:50 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add optional way to edit items with checkboxes 20:50 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add optional way to delete items with checkboxes 20:50 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: fix styling on edit items 20:50 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add note about batch item modification to item edits 20:50 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: add WhenLostChargeReplacementFee 20:50 rangi that marine education center is just down the road from us, we go there lots 20:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #188: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/188/ 20:55 mtompset gmcharlt++ # I saw MARC codes too. :) 20:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #1519 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #131: FAILURE in 25 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/131/ 21:11 trea hey has anyone ever seen this error running fines.pl? 21:11 pastebot "trea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "fines.pl cron error" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/4 21:12 wizzyrea looks like you have an invalid date in your data. 21:12 wizzyrea (to me) 21:13 wizzyrea 0000-00-00 23:59:00 21:14 rangi yep 21:15 wizzyrea choosing issue rule at circ time - interesting idea. 21:15 trea so, since it's fines.pl, I should be checking dates in the items table perhaps? 21:15 wizzyrea issues probably 21:15 trea issues, k. i'll start there. 21:15 rangi the dates in the items table are really only used for display 21:16 rangi and searching 21:16 wahanui i heard searching was not working 21:16 trea ah, k. thanks. 21:16 trea wizzyrea++ 21:16 trea rangi++ 21:17 eythian oh great, now you've gone and made wizzyrea and rangi slower and more complicated. 21:19 cait ? 21:19 cait wizzyrea: i have seen ILS where you coudl do htat 21:20 rangi thats a 123 if ever i saw it 21:20 rangi just set the loan to 2 weeks 21:20 cait wizzyrea: like select a special, short or unlimited loan on circ 21:20 rangi or whatever 21:20 rangi then use the picker to override it 21:20 rangi or better 21:20 rangi DONT BE SO NEEDLESSLY COMPLEX 21:20 cait hehe 21:20 rangi ffs people 21:20 cait i just say i have seen that 21:20 cait :) 21:20 wizzyrea yea definitely - I forgot about the picker 21:21 wizzyrea Just use the damn picker to set the due date. :) 21:21 cait like for teachers - they got 10 books as unlimited loans in that library 21:21 wizzyrea I will amend my reply 21:21 rangi do we want people to use the library or not 21:21 cait so you could then say - ok, this one goes out unlimited/forever 21:21 * cait hides 21:21 jcamins rangi: not. Of course. Right? 21:21 eythian cait: well, there was C, then there was C++ 21:21 cait i see 21:22 rangi jcamins: that seems to be the prevailing view 21:22 rangi libraries are for librarians 21:23 rangi at least if you did a case study of what libraries fund in koha 21:23 rangi thats the conclusion you would draw 21:23 rangi </pet peeve> 21:23 wizzyrea ^^ what he said. 21:25 wizzyrea also, i didn't say it was a *good* idea. Just that it was interesting. :P 21:25 wizzyrea interesting 21:25 wahanui i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad 21:25 wizzyrea ^ 21:26 jcamins eythian: then there was D, which no one has ever heard of anyone using. 21:28 talljoy librarians seem to be on a mission to make themselves obsolete sometimes. 21:28 talljoy and not in a good way 21:28 rangi talljoy: yeah, its kinda odd 21:28 rangi of course im totally generalising here 21:29 rangi there are plenty of libraries that are doing cool things 21:29 talljoy of course. and i'm a librarian and i don't intend that. 21:29 talljoy but we do encounter some odd ducks out there from time to time. 21:29 rangi yup 21:30 talljoy i've been trying to track down khall with a question about some dev he's installed for me. 21:30 talljoy but khall is mia and i'm trying to ping him in every medium i can 21:30 rangi heh 21:30 jcamins talljoy: want me to call him for you? YO! KHALL! talljoy wants to talk with you. 21:30 rangi speaking of libraries doing cool things 21:30 JesseM Who is ready for a little Thanksgiving Turkey? http://www.steak-enthusiast.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/554087_460869160621090_639574201_n.jpg 21:30 talljoy but would any of y'all know why the web installer keeps wanting run when i've already run the updatedatase? 21:31 talljoy what is triggering that installer? 21:31 talljoy thanks jcamins! 21:31 rangi Te Takere won the supreme award at the Association of Local Goverment Information Management awards earlier this week 21:31 cait woohoo 21:31 jcamins talljoy: probably a merge error that put an actual version number in the new development's upgrade stanza. 21:31 cait te_takere++ 21:31 * jcamins heads home. 21:31 talljoy te_takere++ 21:31 talljoy does he get a crown? 21:32 talljoy cuz that sounds like the kind of thing that one earns a crown and scepter for. "supreme award" 21:32 rangi :) 21:33 cait a higher number in kohaversion.pl than the hights in updatedatabase would do it too i think 21:33 wizzyrea Te Takere = HLT 21:33 rangi http://www.tetakere.org.nz/ 21:33 talljoy okay thanks cait and jcamins! 21:35 cait hm ok 21:35 cait question about the new debarred feature 21:35 cait houldn't i be able to add more than one restriction? 21:36 talljoy doubly debarred? 21:37 cait not sure, but the interface seemed to indicate i could 21:37 rangi you are really really debarred 21:37 cait lol 21:37 wizzyrea I mean it! 21:37 rangi yeah doesnt make a lot of sense 21:37 cait i thought for different reasons with different dates 21:37 cait and just saying the interface made me think it 21:38 rangi i dedicate this one to te takere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg 21:38 rangi It has worked! How sweet Koha can be. This problem has been troubling 21:38 wizzyrea :D 21:38 rangi me for three years now. You have just solved my problem. I now can go 21:38 rangi to bed with a smile on my face. Its 30 minutes before mid night here 21:38 rangi in Zambia. Cheers and good night 21:39 rangi wizzyrea++ 21:39 wizzyrea ^ makes the rest of it ok :) 21:39 cait so... if it doesn't domultiple 21:39 cait what is the new borrower_debarments table for? 21:39 rangi cait: no idea 21:40 cait KHALL! :) 21:40 cait might work better in nice: khall? :) 21:40 wizzyrea suggestion about the issue date picker 21:40 rangi @seen khall 21:40 huginn rangi: khall was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 59 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <khall> mornin cait, #koha! 21:40 wizzyrea for hourly loans 21:41 wizzyrea it really ought to be something like "in x hours" in addition to being able to specify a specific time. 21:41 rangi that would be cool 21:42 cait wizzyrea: agreed 21:42 wizzyrea because now you have to look at the clock, and figure out what time it will be due yourself 21:42 wizzyrea a little awkward. 21:42 cait ok, i think mulitple should work 21:42 cait http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2720 21:42 huginn 04Bug 2720: enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Overdues which debar automatically should undebar automatically when returned 21:44 cait yeah this is seriously broken:( 21:45 cait ohok, i managed 21:45 cait maybe it's only broken from that page 21:45 wizzyrea oh man that's one that I have my name on from back in the day. Wowie. 21:45 gmcharlt multiple reasons makes sense, actually 21:45 gmcharlt 1. you have stuff overdue 21:45 gmcharlt 2. you have fines 21:46 gmcharlt 3. you dropped your card on the floor and we won't enable privleges until you come back to pick your card 21:46 cait can someone confirm maybe? I can add multiples from the check out tab (tab restrictions) but not from the details tab editing the patron, enither using the 'full' edit or the 'small' edit link 21:47 cait and... there it overwrites my existing one when i add the second :( 21:47 wizzyrea do you have to turn it on 21:48 cait do we require unit tests for TT plugins? 21:48 wizzyrea I don't see a restrictions tab... oh wait 21:48 cait wizzyrea: maybe it only shows up when oyu have 1 at least 21:48 cait it's where you have checouts, holds... 21:48 cait try adding one from edit patron - then move to checkouts tab and you should see it 21:49 wizzyrea one moment. I may not be running the correct code to see that :P 21:49 wizzyrea right ok 2sec 21:50 wizzyrea yus I see now 21:51 wizzyrea http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2772/12la.png well that's confusing. 21:52 cait there i managed to add 2 21:52 cait no problem 21:52 cait but when you go to Edit, i had problems 21:52 wizzyrea yea, I think perhaps that interface needs to be removed 21:52 cait it keeps overwrting the existing one 21:52 wizzyrea in favor of this one. 21:52 cait hm i think keeping the possible 2 restrictions together is ok 21:52 wizzyrea but we still have to support old restrictions 21:52 cait but it should not overwrite and work the same everywhere 21:52 wizzyrea did you look at my screencap? 21:52 wizzyrea borrower is restricted, borrower has no restrictions. 21:52 wizzyrea errrr 21:53 cait oh you rstricted and it doesn't show 21:53 cait i hadn't that happen 21:53 cait oh my. 21:53 wizzyrea I restricted through edit 21:53 cait i am opening a bug, maybe you can add that? 21:53 wizzyrea yep 21:54 cait i wonder if someone checked if this new handling will give trouble when you import debarred patrons... but that later 21:56 cait bug 11282 21:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11282 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Not possible to create multiple restrictions from patron details/new restriction overwrites existing 21:59 * eythian changes away from weird German music for the morning. 22:11 wizzyrea if you have a restriction done on the edit screen, putting in a new one with the new system overwrites/loses it 22:11 wizzyrea as well. 22:11 wizzyrea eep 22:11 wizzyrea oh wait... once the old debarment is gone, the interface changes! 22:12 cait it's confusing :( 22:12 cait i think it's actually not 2 different things, but all mixed up 22:12 wizzyrea yes, well we're losing data on that. 22:12 cait because the old gui was changed to match the one on the new tab 22:13 cait if thatmakes sense.. restrictions tab and edit page look the same - so it shoudl be the smae thing 22:13 cait update severity? 22:14 wizzyrea I need to test that again. 22:14 wizzyrea the borrower I was using 22:14 wizzyrea had an existing, pre upgrade debarment 22:14 wizzyrea and I lost it when I added one with the new system 22:15 wizzyrea which... seems bad 22:15 wizzyrea but I'm going to try that again 22:16 wizzyrea http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4182/6kog.png < 3.12 22:17 wizzyrea http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4810/zegv.png < 3.14 22:18 wizzyrea if you click "view restrictions" you get the screenshot I posted earlier 22:18 cait i think we need owen or kyle maybe... 22:18 cait to verify how this should work 22:18 wizzyrea It appears that my old restriction is gone: http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7091/kq2j.png 22:19 cait but there is somthing seriously wrong with it right now 22:19 wizzyrea well we lose the old restrictions when new ones are added. 22:19 cait i didn't have an old one 22:19 wizzyrea that's a problem? I feel like it is. 22:19 cait and kept losing one added with hte new system as well 22:19 cait if you go to edit patron 22:19 cait it says add restriction - and you expect it to do the same as it does on the restriction tab 22:20 cait only it did overwrite my prviously added manual all the time 22:20 wizzyrea yep, i see that too 22:20 wizzyrea yea your bug is definitely valid 22:21 wizzyrea my thought is get rid of adding restrictions from the edit screen altogether. 22:21 wizzyrea I much prefer this new interface, makes a lot more sense. 22:21 cait hm i think have the same on both 22:21 cait i think it#s thought to do that 22:22 cait it just doesn't work 22:22 cait well... just 22:22 cait i should sleep :) 22:22 wizzyrea do you really need it in both? 22:22 cait thx wizzyrea for double checking and testing 22:22 cait i think because it used to be there for ages 22:22 * wizzyrea is not sure that you do, except ^ 22:22 cait it would be really confusing to not have it there 22:22 wizzyrea then again you're moving it out right in front of people's faces 22:23 wizzyrea which would be *less* confusing for new users 22:23 cait i will have to think a bit about it 22:23 cait butit should NOT be broken ;) 22:23 wizzyrea yes it should not be broken :) 22:23 cait and youneed to be able t import debarred patrons 22:23 cait which i should check next 22:23 cait but tomorrow 22:23 wahanui rumour has it tomorrow is pizza friday! or the day after today 22:23 wizzyrea I think you can still do that. it'll just be a different method. 22:24 wizzyrea losing a debarment is kind of a big deal though :/ 22:26 wizzyrea if you have two debarments, it only overwrites the first one. 22:26 cait wizzyrea: it needs to work the same, i don't care what it does internally :) 22:26 cait filing another bug about the translatability issue 22:27 wizzyrea it's definitely wonky. 22:28 eythian has something huge been pushed into git.k-c.org? 22:28 eythian I just pulled 14MB from it 22:28 eythian oh, probably new translations 22:28 wizzyrea OH cait, it's *updating* the debarment from the edit page 22:28 wizzyrea changing the comment 22:28 wizzyrea weird. 22:29 cait wizzyrea: i think it shouldn't be updating ever - not unless there is an edit option 22:29 cait hm. 22:29 cait how do you tell it updated? 22:29 wizzyrea yea, you should have to tick a box "update this restriction" 22:29 wizzyrea in the borrower_debarment table, it says "updated" 22:29 cait or just an edit link that opens up the fields 22:29 cait more standard 22:29 wizzyrea ^ that 22:30 wizzyrea if you create one with the tab, it doesn't have an "updated" timestamp 22:30 cait well i will sleep and maybe nudge khall_away about it tomorrow 22:30 cait he will at least know how it should owrk 22:30 cait good night all :) 22:30 wizzyrea *nod* 22:42 rangi right, steak time 22:42 rangi cyas later 22:47 dcook Mmm food 22:48 jcamins Mmm. Fennel. 22:49 jcamins I should have some fennel. 22:49 dcook I wanted to look up some photos of fennel to make sure it was what I thought it was 22:49 dcook But I wrote "define fennel" 22:49 dcook Technically it worked but not exactly what I was looking for.. 22:50 dcook Apparently it's relatively high in Vitamin C...hmm 22:52 jcamins What shall I do with the fennel? 22:53 dcook Look at it, cook it, and then eat it. 22:53 * dcook realizes that isn't very helpful at all. 22:53 jcamins Heh. 22:53 jcamins Good plan. 22:53 jcamins How shall I implement step 2? 22:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1519: SUCCESS in 1 hr 58 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1519/ 22:53 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 11245: fix typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string 22:53 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 10996: Allow numeric subfields to be stripped on export 22:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11245 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string 22:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10996 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Cannot exclude numeric subfields on export 22:55 jcamins Huffington Post has 25 suggestions. 22:55 jcamins Let's see what they are. 22:57 jcamins Caramelized fennel tarts. 22:57 jcamins Oh yes. 22:57 jcamins That sounds wonderful. 22:57 jcamins But a little too time-consuming for right now. 22:57 dcook Mmm, that does sound delicious though.