Time Nick Message 23:19 wizzyrea my brain just can't do it. 23:19 wizzyrea that sounds like a librarian con, on call 23:14 pianohacker I approve. even better, LibConCalNums? Everyone loves SwankyCase! 23:12 eythian libconcalnums 23:12 pianohacker Whatever egghead thought making two entirely different things that could reasonably be abbreviated LCCN... 23:11 pianohacker heycatalogers: Preferred name for Library of Congress call numbers? 23:06 wizzyrea bootstrap is running in a demo at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz. It tracks, reasonably closely, the current master version of Koha. 23:05 wahanui wizzyrea: I forgot bootstrap 23:05 wizzyrea forget bootstrap 22:47 pianohacker jcamins: Thanks much :) 22:46 eythian TIL jcamins is the lazyweb. 22:45 jcamins There ya go. 22:45 joels68 http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz/ 22:45 jcamins Ah. 22:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10309 new feature, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , New OPAC theme based on Bootstrap 22:45 wahanui an up to date demo of the Bootstrap OPAC can be found at http://responsive.mykoha.co.nz - it's tracking from oleonard's branch bootstrap-opac on gitorious. Bug reports should be filed on bug 10309. 22:45 jcamins bootstrap? 22:45 jcamins bootstrap demo? 22:45 jcamins bootstrap.mykoha.co.nz, maybe? 22:45 joels68 responsive opac? 22:44 pianohacker lazyweb: is there a link to the responsive demo? 22:43 joels68 Good nite cait 22:43 eythian later cait 22:43 cait good night all 22:41 eythian realistically, the way to test backups is to do restores and make sure things still work. 22:39 eythian If you knew no changes were happening, you could do two dumps and compare them, but that's not likely to be that effective. 22:39 eythian Not especially 22:36 rambutan is there any way to ensure the integrity of a mysql db dump--that the dump is an exact representation of the data in the db? 22:35 joels68 found opachiddenitems.txt. I'll need to start YAMLing... 22:27 cait it's a system preference 22:27 cait it should be easy to do that without modifiying records :) 22:26 cait you want to take a look at opachiddenitems 22:26 joels68 Lot's of reading to do for bug 5725.... 22:25 joels68 Just the item. They are moving their cassette tapes to storage so they don't want them seen in opac. 22:24 wizzyrea but you've mostly answered it I won't make you repeat yourself 22:24 wahanui "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" 22:24 wizzyrea the first question? 22:24 wizzyrea sorry I should have asked the first question. 22:24 wizzyrea item = the bib too, or just the item 22:24 joels68 yep. 22:23 wizzyrea just the items? 22:23 joels68 the lib wants their items to be shadowed in opac but still visible on staff side. 22:23 wizzyrea bibs don't./ 22:23 wizzyrea items often have ccodes. 22:22 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Batch modifications for Biblios 22:22 wizzyrea bug 5725 22:22 cait i mean is there an item level thing you can recognize these records with? 22:22 wizzyrea idk, would probably require a spec. 22:22 cait joels68: do they want to hide the whole record? or just items of a collection and the record if the item is the only one? 22:21 joels68 How much $ for that gui enhancement again? 22:21 cait oh 22:21 wizzyrea I think we have overlay type stuff now. 22:21 cait but they only work on staging 22:21 cait in 3.14 khall's amrc modificaton templates could do part of the batch job 22:20 cait you could maybe reimport them 22:20 cait hmmmm 22:19 joels68 So I would need to put a 1 in 942 n for each record? 22:18 wizzyrea as a command line tool 22:18 wizzyrea but delete is. 22:18 wizzyrea I misspoke actually, modify isn't there yet, it desperately needs a patron. 22:17 joels68 I have a lib that wants to hide a collection in the opac. 22:16 joels68 Command line will work for me. 22:15 wizzyrea so disappointing. 22:15 wizzyrea and none have stepped up to fund it. 22:15 wizzyrea every. single. library. asks. that. 22:15 wizzyrea but the GUI version needs a patron. 22:15 wizzyrea there's a command line tool for that 22:14 joels68 Is there a MARC batch modify tool coming up? I can't remember. 22:12 wizzyrea just have to know where to find them. 22:12 wizzyrea ah there are dirty snowballs here too. 22:12 wizzyrea that seems more sensible ;) 22:12 rambutan ok, I'll go for tarakihi 22:11 rambutan oh, taupo is a lake, not a fish 22:10 joels68 I just didn't want to get too comfortable down there and forget where ya came from.;-):-[ 22:09 wizzyrea joels68: I'll take a pass on that I think. ;) 22:09 wizzyrea a whole lake? 22:09 rambutan taupo. always wanted to eat taupo 22:09 joels68 wizzyrea, I could send you a dirty snowball from the midwest. 22:08 rambutan http://www.newzealand.com/us/fishing/ 22:07 wizzyrea but spent many happy hours on the beach. 22:07 wizzyrea but actually, I've only been fishing once. 22:07 rambutan so sad 22:07 wizzyrea kinda cramps my fishing style. 22:07 wizzyrea I have this thing that I do 5 days a week... 22:06 rambutan If I lived there I'd be fishing every day. 22:06 rambutan so wizzyrea, have you been out fishin much? 22:05 joels68 Yeah, that paradise place... 22:05 joels68 :P 22:04 wizzyrea presently? 2 floors, a roof, and the bluest sky you've ever seen. ;) 22:04 joels68 Hey hey wizzyrea what's up? 22:03 francharb and thanks for the help!! 22:03 francharb see ya 22:03 francharb have a good night, day, afternoon! 22:03 francharb time to stop! 22:02 cait hi joels68:) 22:02 cait yes wahanui, all is well 22:02 wahanui Hi cait! are you safely back in germany now? 22:02 joels68 Hi cait! 22:01 cait we are the tired ones 21:55 joels68 :-D 21:54 pianohacker you'll have to deal with us instead... 21:54 pianohacker oh crap I think we forgot the wise ones today 21:52 joels68 Greetings. We meet again, o wise ones. 21:49 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 21:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #395: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/395/ 21:49 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 21:49 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.10.x build #69: SUCCESS in 12 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.10.x/69/ 21:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #395 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #69 for job Koha_Docs_3.10.x (previous build: FIXED) 21:49 wizzyrea :) 21:48 francharb :) 21:48 francharb welcome to my 2nd day at my new job after a 4 monts pause 21:48 francharb ahah 21:48 francharb I just realised that after setting it up 21:48 francharb wizzyrea, probably a better idea 21:48 wizzyrea bc that db is probably out of date. 21:47 wizzyrea I'd probably just create one with the web installer 21:47 wizzyrea well I wouldn't probably do taht 21:47 francharb well well well 21:47 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix typo 21:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs_3.12.x build #27: SUCCESS in 13 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs_3.12.x/27/ 21:47 francharb it doesnt worlk 21:47 francharb and well, there are a couple of biblios and items but I try to upload more 21:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #27 for job Koha_Docs_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:46 francharb http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Sign_off_on_patches 21:46 francharb I just set up the testing database from the sign off wiki page 21:46 cait oh? 21:46 francharb ahah, now I can´t import the staged biblios... 21:41 cait not sure if it will help in your case 21:41 cait i found it helpful when we were trying to find out which items had not been imported because of duplicate barcodes 21:41 francharb thanks cait, I´m going to check it rigth now! 21:41 wahanui Since Wed Nov 20 21:29:42 2013, there have been 1 modifications and 0 questions. 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Addressing is in optional mode. 21:41 eythian wahanui: status 21:41 cait it has a column for import_error 21:40 cait you culd look at import_items 21:40 francharb yes... 21:40 cait hm no that seems always to happen 21:40 francharb dont think it´s related... 21:39 francharb hey cait, the only thing in the log is : [Tue Nov 19 17:21:05 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] [Tue Nov 19 17:21:05 2013] stage-marc-import.pl: Filehandle STDOUT reopened as FH only for input at /usr/lib/perl5/Template/Provider.pm line 964., referer: http://opaccommunity:8083/cgi-bin/koha/tools/stage-marc-import.pl 21:35 cait thx eythian 21:34 wahanui :) 21:34 cait wahanui botsnack cookie 21:31 wahanui pianohacker: what? 21:31 pianohacker wahanui: good afternoon sleepyhead 21:30 eythian hi wahanui 21:19 cait the database tables 21:19 cait also the tables often have useful information about the matching process 21:19 cait an error message? 21:19 cait is there something in the logs? 21:19 cait hm 21:18 francharb if i cant find any solution 21:18 francharb thank you cait wizzyrea! I´ll do another install 21:11 francharb :) 21:11 francharb I´m going to check again the set up 21:10 pianohacker Yay >1 month of school! 21:10 pianohacker cait: I understand well, trust me... 21:06 cait as always heh 21:06 cait tired? :) 21:06 pianohacker hey cait. How are ya? 21:06 cait hi pianohacker :) 21:03 pianohacker yay fall/spring 21:03 pianohacker same here in colorado, randomly enough 21:03 wizzyrea it's a beautiful day outside. :) 21:02 pianohacker hey wizzyrea. How's it going? 21:02 wizzyrea hi pianohacker 21:02 pianohacker hi guys and gals and overenthusiastic bots 21:01 wizzyrea because that's so handy. 21:01 wizzyrea can I just rave a bit more about the tickboxes on the detail page 21:01 wizzyrea (I haven't changed the dataset) 21:00 wizzyrea that does seem odd though. 20:59 francharb :) 20:59 francharb ok 20:59 wizzyrea no, and I didn't have it just now on that same version 20:58 francharb tonight I´ll checked on my computer at home. I don´t remember having this problem last time I used this dataset 20:57 francharb hehe 20:57 francharb I know, it´s a mystery to mee 20:57 cait hmm. 20:57 francharb its a fresh install, from yesterday 20:56 francharb thats what I checked :) 20:56 francharb ok 20:56 wizzyrea with the sample branchcodes 20:56 wizzyrea the data in that set uses the sample branches 20:56 francharb wizzyrea, ¨should be default branches¨. what do you mean? 20:55 wizzyrea you wouldn't have the problem I had, which is duplicate barcodes 20:55 wizzyrea should be default branches 20:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11204 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , pendingreserves should use datatables.inc 20:54 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.14.0 20:54 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11204: make pendingreserves use datatables.inc 20:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1515: SUCCESS in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1515/ 20:54 francharb I installed 3.13.00.043 20:54 cait i had that happen. 20:54 cait no spaces in your branchcode? 20:54 francharb i have them 20:54 francharb yes 20:54 wizzyrea *item records 20:53 wizzyrea on master, with that dataset 20:53 cait subfields :) 20:53 wizzyrea mine says "985 records found and staged" 20:53 francharb a b y ? 20:53 francharb cait, nope 20:53 wizzyrea ^ 20:53 cait are the items showing up as imported in your import summary table? 20:52 cait and you got a b y? 20:52 cait hmm 20:52 francharb always import 20:52 francharb check the items 20:52 francharb the default one 20:52 cait francharb: hm what setting did you pick for items on the import screen? 20:52 francharb but not the biblio and biblioitems 20:51 francharb the items table is empty 20:51 wizzyrea as in, empty? 20:51 wizzyrea clean database? 20:51 wizzyrea hmm 20:51 francharb seems all good 20:51 francharb I check koha to marc mapping, branches, item types, authorised values 20:50 francharb yes 20:50 wizzyrea default branches installed? 20:50 wizzyrea hm 20:50 francharb :( 20:50 francharb no more items 20:50 francharb but when I stage the records 20:49 francharb the set up seems ok 20:49 francharb there are items 20:49 francharb I´m using wizzyrea marc21 dataset 20:49 francharb but not the items 20:49 francharb Biblios are staged correctly 20:48 francharb have you ever experienced trouble importing biblios with items lately? 20:48 huginn nengard: The current temperature in East Cesar Chavez, Austin, Texas is 21.7°C (2:48 PM CST on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). 20:48 nengard @wunder 78741 20:48 francharb hey all 20:32 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.4°C (9:30 PM CET on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). 20:32 cait @wunder Konstanz 19:59 trea cait++ 19:59 trea jcamins++ 19:59 trea right, that's what i needed to know. thanks 19:59 talljoy right. 19:59 jcamins In that case, you don't need to run the script because you have dontmerge set so it's not necessary. 19:58 jcamins Okay. 19:58 talljoy edit an auth and have it update the bib 19:58 trea so, that would make the cron unnecessary 19:58 talljoy sorry 19:58 talljoy jcamins they want to edit a bib and have it update the bib 19:58 trea "dontmerge" is set to "Do" 19:58 jcamins What do they want to do? 19:58 talljoy it does to the non-authoritarian 19:58 talljoy lol 19:57 trea this is sounding more and more like terminology confusion then 19:56 talljoy and i'm with jcamins, i use the linker instead 19:56 talljoy trea what is their dontmerge authorities preference set to? 19:56 jcamins Actually, I don't use authority merging at all in Koha, since I don't think it works. 19:56 jcamins I don't use the merge_authority script. 19:56 cait dontmerge < 19:55 * oleonard asks jcamins whenever authorities are involved 19:55 talljoy there is a syspref that talks about the merge cronjob for authorities 19:55 cait have you looked for merge? 19:55 cait i think there might be a pref 19:55 cait sorry, not sure about that 19:55 cait oh :( 19:55 trea like running the linker perhaps? 19:55 trea hi cait - merge_authority.pl cronjob? does this need some steps to be taken before it will work successfully? 19:54 cait not sure about the topic... but we could try? 19:54 cait trea: hi trea 19:51 trea anyone around that wants to talk about authorities? 19:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11204 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , pendingreserves should use datatables.inc 19:39 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.14.0 19:39 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11204: make pendingreserves use datatables.inc 19:39 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #226: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/226/ 19:32 cait bgkriegel++ again for putting the marc frameworks into pootle 19:31 nengard :) 19:31 nengard list emailed 19:30 nengard dokey 19:30 nengard okey dkey 19:26 oleonard I think I remember tcohen saying early October like this year, but I don't know if it's official 19:25 nengard But I meant dates for the conference - like what time of year :) 19:24 nengard :) 19:24 nengard awww 19:24 oleonard If you don't have a date yet you can go with me nengard 19:24 nengard do we have a date for kohacon14 yet? 19:13 bag heya druthb 19:11 * druthb looks up from the puzzle she's workin' on, waves at bag, and goes back to her head-scratcher. 19:09 cait yeah and then we start over :) 19:06 bag only released 19:06 bag heh nope never done :) 19:05 cait and there is never a 'done' :) 19:05 cait the whole year really... super fast 19:05 bag yeah cait this last release seems to have gone so fast 19:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10720 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Substitution term in overdue notices shouldn't be removed even if they don't match 19:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters 19:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10016 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , SelfCheckTimeout not logging patron out 19:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8070 minor, P5 - low, ---, druthb, Pushed to Master , <pre> block produced by showmarc.pl really not good in RTL languages 19:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11269 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Latest MARC::Record makes visible some wrong usage of field->subfield in C4::Search 19:03 jenkins_koha * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices 19:03 jenkins_koha * Colin Campbell: Bug 11054: Specify UTF-8 encoding when creating a child record 19:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 10016: munge history in SCO to discourage resubmitting user login 19:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10016: force zero browser-side caching of SCO pages 19:03 jenkins_koha * D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 8070: improve MARC preview display for RTL languages 19:03 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() 19:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #125: SUCCESS in 3 hr 14 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/125/ 18:55 cait time is moving so fast this year 18:55 * cait feels like it can't be 3.14 yet 18:53 cait bgkriegel++ :) 18:51 jenkins_koha Starting build #1515 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 18:47 jenkins_koha Starting build #226 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED) 18:40 gaetan_B bye ! 18:40 gmcharlt translators++ 18:40 gmcharlt bgkriegel++ 18:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch '3.14.x' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e71593035d97beb02f0b9b22a197e25c7e37fbca> / Translation updates for 3.14.0 <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=83a57566454d5cbed1b6228e43b176c77c6e2436> / Merge branch 'new/bug11269' into 3.14.x <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=69ec188bce073f3cc42b19ca27aeb378b9f6a09d> / Merge 18:35 oleonard I felt it, but it didn't occur to me that it might be an earthquake. 18:34 cait ! 18:34 gmcharlt ! 18:33 oleonard http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usb000l2y3#summary ! 18:09 |R ok :) 18:08 gmcharlt |R: there's no standard port 18:00 |R I see koha uses 9999 as port for SRU, is this a standard ? Loc.gov seems to be using the same port as z39.50 (210) and nothing in /etc/services nor on google :) 17:52 cait :) 17:52 * nengard waves back 17:49 * cait waves 17:41 SlyzertVoltrond For in case the upgrade process ran into problems and the system is unusable because of it, I can just revert back to the old version 17:40 SlyzertVoltrond Just the application(Perl), I know about db backups 17:38 mtompset And why? 17:38 mtompset What are you trying to backup? 17:38 SlyzertVoltrond Can I backup Koha's application by just copying the directory which Koha's source codes resides to some place and later put it back in if necessary? 17:15 mtompset *whew* saved from the reputations as a talking about toilet paper. :P 17:14 huginn rambutan: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 17:14 rambutan @quote add <mtompset> Oh right... you aren't using windows and running up the version numbers like toilet paper 17:04 reiveune bye 16:50 mtompset No problem. 16:49 cait mtompset: thx for testing 16:49 cait i will have to run some more tests 16:49 * jcamins loses interest. 16:49 cait it wrks on the test installation 16:49 cait mtompset: yeah , not surprised 16:49 jcamins Oh, never mind. This script never worked in FF 3.6. So it's not my fault. 16:48 jcamins Nah, I also have FF gazillion something. 16:48 mtompset Oh right... you aren't using windows and running up the version numbers like toilet paper. 16:48 jcamins Yeah. 16:48 mtompset 3.6?! 16:47 jcamins I can't seem to find Firebug in FF 3.6. 16:47 mtompset cait: I can't replicate the problem now. :( 16:47 mtompset bye, tcohen. 16:47 tcohen bye #koha 16:45 mtompset top left of the bar... nice big koha icon. 16:45 oleonard mtompset: "clicking the icon?" 16:44 mtompset cait: How many quotes are in the DB? 16:42 mtompset I had your problem. I did a refresh after clicking the icon, and it is showing now. 16:41 mtompset well, that's strange. 16:40 cait only main 16:40 cait main 16:40 mtompset which opac page are you expecting it on? 16:40 mtompset or opac-search? 16:40 mtompset but opac-main? 16:40 cait feature is turned on, quotes in database, no quote 16:40 mtompset Is that the problem? 16:40 cait nope. 16:40 mtompset Umm... so it isn't even displaying the quote of the day on the main screen?! 16:39 mtompset Okay, data in place. tests run. 16:39 mtompset found it under tools... QOTD -- not exactly what I was quickly scanning for. :) 16:35 cait it's under tools 16:35 oleonard /cgi-bin/koha/tools/quotes.pl 16:34 mtompset How do you add quotes? 16:31 ashimema brb 16:24 mtompset Ah... my data is empty. 16:23 mtompset I mean data. 16:23 mtompset Hmmm.... strange... t/db_dependent/Koha.t failed... checking my daily. 16:23 cait mtompset: prog 16:20 mtompset which theme are you using? 16:18 mtompset So quote of the day was added 3.10.0... 16:16 cait quite a puzzle 16:16 cait oleonard: doesn't look like it 16:10 mtompset Can you give a set of steps to duplicate the problem? 16:03 oleonard cait: Not hidden by JS or CSS is it? 16:00 mtompset Oh, that's news. Sorry. 16:00 mtompset cait: I found the number mess to be strange. 15:59 cait not on production 15:59 cait it does show on their test system 15:59 cait feature is activated 15:59 cait quuotes look fine 15:59 cait nope 15:59 jcamins cait: missing quotes? 15:58 cait i have alibrary where it just won't show up on the start page and i don't see why 15:58 * cait curses a bit about the quote of the day feature 15:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #125 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 15:42 * mtompset laughs. 15:36 huginn oleonard: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready 15:36 oleonard huginn, you're not the boss of gmcharlt! 15:35 huginn gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 1 day 15:35 gmcharlt @arewethereyet 15:35 gmcharlt let's go by the One True Guide 15:34 jcamins (yes, this is actually how I think about time zones) 15:34 * cait mimicks owen and puts fingers in her ears and starts singing 15:34 jcamins But if gmcharlt lived in NZ, today would actually be tomorrow, so the release would be tonight. 15:33 gmcharlt I'm not asserting that I live one day in the future ;) 15:33 cait but you can release earlier if you raelly want to - on my 20th :) 15:33 gmcharlt er, release is the 21st, in my time zone, i.e., tomorrow 15:33 cait today is the 20th. I am sticking with that 15:33 cait :) 15:33 cait you people are confusing me. again. 15:33 cait oh? 15:33 gmcharlt (mwa-ha-ha?) 15:33 gmcharlt it's the 21st, in my time zone 15:32 jcamins cait: right, it's the 21st in NZ later today, but gmcharlt is in the US. :) 15:32 * oleonard thought the 21st as well 15:32 cait and today is 20th? 15:32 cait hm i thought 21st 15:31 jcamins senator: actually, I meant today is "today," not "tomorrow." 15:31 senator IOW, it's 7:31 AM for him :-) 15:30 jcamins mtompset: gmcharlt is in the US. 15:29 * mtompset is awaiting the release of Koha Pi. That is today, is it not? 15:28 oleonard Hi mtompset 15:27 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 15:24 oleonard Yeah, it makes you wonder what other things would stop being an issue if they just lived with it for a while 15:23 nengard when i'm in training things always seem like the end of the world ... but then the libraries never mention it again :) 15:22 nengard or what oleonard said :) 15:22 nengard the thing is i think it's something libraries want but patrons don't clammer for so no one has pushed very hard to get it 15:22 oleonard I guess no one wants it badly enough to sponsor it yet 15:18 cait oleonard: here libraries are asking for it too, of course 15:18 cait oleonard: and still thousands of libraries adopted koha in the meantime without any browsing ;) 15:13 oleonard Yeah... I wasted some time on Twitter and stuff too... 15:12 ashimema had you not been making koha look so great ;) 15:12 ashimema you could have learnt to code it in that time frame ;) 15:12 ashimema pretty impressive to have such a long lasting enhancment in bugzilla though ... 15:08 ashimema thanks oleonard.. 15:07 nengard hehe 15:01 oleonard Of course it is an enhancement request ;) 15:00 oleonard Also: Yay, a bug I filed 10 years ago is still open! 14:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=569 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Searches need 'browse' option 14:57 oleonard See Bug 569 14:54 ashimema Probably a completely stupid question.. but what exactly do people actually mean by a 'browse feature' 14:42 jcamins cait: not easily, but I believe it would be possible. 14:41 cait jcamins: is browsing with zebra doable? 14:35 oleonard yes, especially if you only need one of them for a browse feature 14:26 cait and having both search engines installed and running seems... wrong 14:26 cait making solr fully work might be more work 14:25 cait oleonard: maybe implementing it with zebra shoudl be discussed 14:14 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 14:14 tcohen @later tell gmcharlt $record->encoding( 'UTF-8' ) vs SetMarcUnicodeFlag($record, $marcflavour)? 14:14 oleonard I don't know anything about how browse could work in Zebra or Solr or ElasticSearch, but I would hate to see a lot of effort put into making it work with Solr if there is a serious push to move away from both Solr and Zebra 14:13 jcamins cait: right, that's why I would've done browse using Zebra. 14:13 cait i had the impression it was using solr only for the index, but still using zebra for search 14:13 jcamins Ah. Interesting. I probably would've chosen to do browse with Zebra, given that's what the data is in already. 14:12 cait i think he presented it ... in edinburgh maybe? 14:12 cait ah 14:12 oleonard cait: Yes 14:12 cait hm and external to koha i think - is it the one from the italian library? 14:12 oleonard Since I'm guessing no ByWater libraries are using Solr, that route seems like a non-starter 14:11 oleonard There is a discussion on the ByWater Partners list about implementing a browse feature, but the work that has been done is all in Solr 14:10 jcamins Why do you ask? 14:10 jcamins Probably not, no. 14:10 oleonard Do you think that will translate into working on ElasticSearch for Koha? 14:10 balamurugan in the terminal 14:10 balamurugan i log as root user oleonard and given the command 14:09 jcamins oleonard: I am, yes. 14:09 balamurugan but while i am giving the command rebuild it is saying that command not found 14:09 oleonard jcamins: You're a fan of ElasticSearch are you? 14:08 jcamins oleonard: what's up? 14:08 balamurugan i checked that also 14:08 balamurugan and the rebuild_zebra.pl is in the migration_tools directory 14:07 balamurugan i installed koha 3.8 through live cd 14:07 oleonard How did you install Koha balamurugan? 14:07 balamurugan anybody here to help me to rebuild zebra index 14:06 balamurugan hello to all 14:06 cait there are some examples 14:06 cait email subject and topical subjects 14:05 cait subject 14:05 cait yeah, i have had that happen too 14:05 oleonard Interesting translation problem paul_p raises... term vs. term... 14:02 tcohen thx :-D 14:01 oleonard /cgi-bin/koha/sco/sco-main.pl 14:01 tcohen oleonard: what was the URL for sco? 14:00 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Sprite icons not in right spot on translated templates 14:00 cait oleonard: done - bug 11276 13:58 cait ok, will do 13:58 oleonard cait: Yes, definitely 13:58 cait oleonard: would it be ok to file a bug? 13:57 oleonard jcamins around? 13:45 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded. 13:45 tcohen @later tell eythian is 10908 a blocker for 3.12.x? 13:45 huginn cait: The operation succeeded. 13:45 cait @later tell eythian can you bring back wahanui please? 13:45 tcohen great :-D 13:45 tcohen oh 13:45 tcohen otherwise you will suffer a lot, because Perl 5.8 is deprecated for the stable Koha 13:45 tony I do 13:44 tcohen tony, make sure you at least have CentOS 6 13:44 cait oh. no wahanui. 13:44 tony Thanks you guys .. I was thinking that a debian package might work 13:44 cait wahanui: wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org 13:44 cait wiki? 13:44 cait wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org 13:44 cait wiki? 13:44 cait wiki* 13:44 cait tony: there are some older centos intallation instructions on our wiki 13:44 cait tony: there are no centos packages, packages are only available for debian and ubuntu afaik 13:43 cait hm coudl imagine it is, but maybe ask eythian? 13:43 tony Which install package should I use since my server is Centos 13:43 tcohen that's a blocker for 3.12.x too? 13:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10908 blocker, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Fix broken auth_by_bind LDAP mode 13:43 tcohen bug 10908 13:41 oleonard Yes, I changed the way the buttons were styled, using more modern CSS techniques. 13:41 cait [off] https://inm.bsz-bw.de/ 13:41 cait oleonard: for comparision - a 3.6 installation 13:40 tony Which install package should I use since my server is Centos 13:39 cait i think there are 3-4 places where hte arrows appear 13:39 cait it's not super urgent, just a bit weird and against my perfectionism :) 13:39 cait oleonard: i think it did work in older version with the single gif, maybe we can think of something? 13:36 oleonard That is a shortsighted design decision. :( 13:32 cait we updated another library to 3.12 today, so i ran into it again :) 13:31 oleonard This complaint must have been long-simmering 13:31 oleonard I see 13:31 cait there are different places we have tht, another is the more searches pull down with a down arrow 13:30 cait when the little arrow in lists looks nice for one language, it's ugly for the other 13:29 cait https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/ 13:29 cait i can show :) 13:29 oleonard Can you elaborate cait? 13:28 cait heh 13:28 * oleonard puts his fingers in his ears and starts singing 13:28 cait the little arrow next to cart - i have difficulties making it behave nicely for words (translations) of different length 13:28 cait i have a complaint :) 13:28 cait hi oleonard 13:28 oleonard Hi #koha 13:26 francharb I'm glad being back here! :) 13:25 francharb good morning cait! thank you!! 13:19 cait so good to see you back 13:19 cait good mornign tcohen :) and francharb :) 13:08 francharb Good morning #koha 13:06 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is -4.0°C (8:00 AM EST on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.62 in 1037 hPa (Rising). 13:06 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec 13:05 tcohen morning! 13:00 cait bgkriegel++ #being an awesome translation manager 13:00 cait hi ebegin :) 12:59 ebegin morning ! 10:54 Sammie Oh I see! 10:54 cait it will work in cataloguing 10:54 cait there is an AutoBarcode perference, but i am not sure if it will work if you are adding serial issues in the serials module 10:53 cait hi Sammie 10:53 Sammie Good morning! Well in my part of the world.....relatively new user, is there a way to automatically assign barcodes? Right now I'm physically inputting bar odes for my serials. 10:46 cait ah, already gone :) 10:45 cait not sure what $k is 10:45 schnydszch ow about $k? it's different from MR or stocknumber. I'll try to work this out again tomorrow. Thank you very much @cait Cheers! 10:39 schnydszch oh it's already there 10:39 schnydszch i should add this in deleteditems table? 10:38 cait hm there shoudl a be stocknumber in items and deleteditems then 10:37 schnydszch the latest 3.12.6 10:36 cait which version are you on? 10:36 cait hm and i don't see it in your list 10:36 cait that is if you are not using it already for other information 10:36 cait it's an inventory number 10:36 cait it's nrmally mapped to §i 10:36 schnydszch hmm.. 10:36 cait you could consider using stocknumber 10:35 schnydszch are available columns, and 952$i can only be put in more_subfields_xml 10:35 schnydszch but only the itemnumber biblionumber biblioitemnumber barcode dateaccessioned booksellerid homebranch price replacementprice replacementpricedate datelastborrowed datelastseen stack notforloan damaged itemlost wthdrawn itemcallnumber coded_location_qualifier issues renewals reserves restricted itemnotes holdingbranch paidfor timestamp location permanent_location onloan cn_source cn_sort ccode materials uri itype more_subfields_xml enumchron copynumber st 10:34 cait that's what you can currently do, apart from writing a script and adding the info or waiting for 3.14 10:34 cait yu could use sql to insert into the items and then do a complete reindex 10:33 schnydszch Memorandum Receipt No. for a particular item 10:33 schnydszch it's supposed to be MR No. 10:31 cait what is in $i? 10:31 schnydszch one thing to do what i wanted to do is to delete the items but that won't work since there are items circulated already 10:29 cait yes, but it will be very very new then 10:29 schnydszch okay. 3.14 will be out in a week right? 10:28 cait there will be a brand new feature in 3.14 to let you do that, but currently it's not possible 10:28 cait items won't get overlayed 10:27 schnydszch and also $k 10:26 schnydszch all other data in 952 tag are already in Koha, only subfield is the newest data 10:25 schnydszch the problem is 952i, which is the newest data is not imported 10:24 schnydszch yes it is. 10:24 schnydszch I added 962i in BKS framework 10:24 cait is LLS an existing branchcode? 10:23 schnydszch Hi! I'm importing a book with this 952: 952 \\$iMR_$kR_$p07776d$v0.00$40$eDonation$00$915303$bLLS$m0$10$o(F) KPM 1744.5 O32 2005$d0000-00-00$n0$j0$50$70$2lcc$g0.00$yBK$l0$aLLS$fDonation I enabled add incoming record in item processing 10:16 magnuse yay! http://builtinperl.com/ 09:22 cait hi samueld 09:20 samueld hi everybody 08:56 cait but yes, check the mailing list, there has been a discussion about it 08:56 cait it will be a step by step thing 08:56 kivilahtio is there an agreement to deprecate prog? 08:55 kivilahtio any prognosis for the future of prog vs bootstrap? 08:47 kivilahtio looks like bootstrap and prog are almost similar 08:36 cait kivilahtio: he did that for existing translations, so only the differences for bootstrap had to be translated 08:36 cait kivilahtio: you can translate prog, then ask bernardo - he can move the strings that are doubled up 08:31 kivilahtio I guess everyubody is moving to bootstrap then? 08:31 kivilahtio looks pretty neat 08:29 gaetan_B hello 08:29 magnuse it's worth a look! :-) 08:26 kivilahtio I think I need to take a look at bootstrap first :) 08:25 magnuse so maybe choose either prog or bootstrap and translate that? 08:24 magnuse it looks like the prog and bootstrap .po files are about the same size 08:23 kivilahtio if 50% is wasted, we need to retarget our localization efforts 08:23 kivilahtio should we move to bootsrtap now? 08:23 kivilahtio my point is that is the work we are doing for prog just now getting wasted 08:22 cait it's in 3.14 only 08:22 magnuse of course it's localizable - this is Koha y'know! 08:22 cait kivilahtio: the new bootstrap has a new po file, buidling on the existing one 08:22 kivilahtio and we are translating the old prog 08:21 kivilahtio We just started Koha localiation big time 08:21 kivilahtio is the new bootstrap still localizable? 08:21 kivilahtio magnuse: Ok, so what does that mean regarding our localization efforts? 08:21 kivilahtio hyvää huomenta cait! 08:20 magnuse kia ora work-cait :-) 08:17 cait good morning #koha 08:15 magnuse kivilahtio: it's a new theme based on http://getbootstrap.com/ ? 08:04 kivilahtio Excuse me, but what is the new default bootstrap theme? 08:04 Oak Bonjour Alex, ici, avoir de la crème glacée et café avec du poulet. Sur la maison. 07:57 alex_a bonjour 07:44 * magnuse waves 07:44 cait hi reiveune :) and bye all 07:35 reiveune hello 07:32 * cait waves 07:31 wizzyrea sup 06:47 * Oak waves 06:27 anipablo is anyone here at this hour? 06:25 pabloj hi 06:15 dac Errr difficult/expensive 06:15 dac A more difficult solution would be to use xpath to get a list of possible list nodes and then check the parent of each title/date/author node against that list of nodes... 06:14 dac Hmm, turns out the regex trick works 05:54 dac One day maybe :p 05:54 dac If they had won that game, they could've actually made it.. 05:54 dac Man...Canada got slaughtered by Honduras in October... 05:46 mtompset Bye, dac bag ebegin. 05:46 mtompset Well, that's it. Have a great day, #koha. 05:41 bag yup NZ needs to win 4-0 05:37 * dac used to be a crazy soccer fan 05:37 dac So 4 goals.. 05:37 dac Mmm, they do have the away goal, so that is handy 05:35 dac Hmm 05:35 dac 5-1 Mexico in the first leg 05:32 bag I think NZ has to score a bunch of goals :) 05:32 dac Load faster webpage! 05:32 dac All I recall is that Mexico has had a weird time qualifying 05:32 dac I'm trying to remember what the current standing is 05:31 bag I think it starts in another half an hour 05:31 mtompset That might explain the lack of replies. ;) 05:31 dac How far along is it? 05:31 dac bag: Nice! 05:31 bag maybe I'll watch along for a bit 05:31 bag oh nice the NZ soccer/football game is on TV here 05:29 dac Oh, unless... 05:28 dac Hmm, maybe the regex idea will work despite being suboptimal 05:25 dac ? 05:24 mtompset Have you ever really wanted to work on something to sign it off, and you didn't get an answer? The problem is usually the other way around. :( 05:23 mtompset dpk dpk1: you there? 05:21 dac lol 05:21 mtompset I'll let you go back to your evil, evil world. :P 05:20 dac I wonder if jquery compensates for IE using 0 based indexes rather than 1 based indexes (as it should) 05:19 dac Actually, maybe using xpath in Javascript is the best bet.. 05:17 dac :D 05:17 dac One way around that might be using xpath in Javascript but that brings some pain if one uses indexes.. 05:16 dac You don't have a selected node to relate to if you hand edit 05:16 dac However, you find the selection isn't quite what you want and you want to hand edit... 05:16 dac So, the scenario: You've highlighted a list item, and you've highlighted the title, date, and author within that list item. You've built your relative xpath by comparing the selected nodes. 05:15 dac I'm generating about 4-6 different queries for different sections of a page...and they're nested 05:15 dac Because the highlighting reads the actual DOM. Handcrafted queries don't. 05:14 dac But allowing users to either use highlighting and/or handcrafted xpath...trickier 05:14 dac That in itself...not that hard 05:14 dac Building a user-friendly UI to generate xpath based on highlighted sections of a page 05:14 dac That's fine 05:14 dac Actually, that's not it 05:14 dac Scraping using xpath 05:13 dac Hmm, how to explain it.. 05:13 dac Well, not Koha 05:12 mtompset So, what are you trying to do and where? 05:12 dac mtompset: Actually, I find regexes and I get along better and better all the time. It might just not be enough in this context 05:11 mtompset dac: So been there, done that. Regex's don't like me. :P 05:10 dac No...mostly yes, but sometimes probably not.. 05:09 dac Well, it might.. 05:09 dac Grr 05:09 dac Then the subsequent moment when you realize that the regex works, but your solution isn't going to work 05:09 dac The moment where you think you're so smart with your regex 04:58 * mtompset hopes that dpk dpk1 or WaylonR will reply. 04:57 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Failed QA , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds 04:57 mtompset Did you forget to set the status of bug 11078 correctly? 04:56 mtompset Greetings, dpk dpk1 04:07 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 04:02 eythian I might have a look, ta 04:02 ibeardslee there are a bunch of sysadmin tools you could browse through in the build room 04:01 ibeardslee yes, although it would be at home. 04:00 eythian ibeardslee: you'd be the sort of person who has a 4mm allen key that I could borrow. Would this be true? 03:53 bag always 03:53 eythian yeah 03:53 ibeardslee eythian: taking your sword? 03:53 eythian Oh no. I have to bike to Thordon at around 6. It's going to be madness. 03:52 bag anyone going? 03:52 bag oh how long until game time? 03:47 rangi I suspect even though we will get utterly caned in our world cup qualifier tonight a good time will be had by all 03:43 bag evening 03:42 rangi There's 80 trillion Mexican soccer fans in town 03:42 eythian the HDR is strong in this one 03:37 wizzyrea cruel cruel cruel to be indoors. 03:37 wizzyrea http://www.flickr.com/photos/almightyallan/10955082416/ < wellies today 03:37 wizzyrea oh man 03:09 |R ok, enough email written, this is past overtime haha ;) 02:13 |R cool, I'll try with both ^_^ 02:13 rangi http://biblibre.com/en or fr for you :) 02:12 |R I found daniel on twitter I think (the guy who asked) 02:12 |R Paul? :) 02:11 dcook jcamins: Good point 02:11 dcook Paul is super nice, so I'm sure he could give you info at the least 02:10 rangi but mail paul 02:10 rangi hdl is no longer there 02:10 |R dcook: I'm always afraid to write to people on their post after 3 years and look like a stalker haha but yeah, I should try and contact them 02:10 jcamins dcook: UNIMARC->MARC21 is much easier *because* UNIMARC separates out more fields. 02:09 rangi http://git.biblibre.com/ 02:09 rangi i wonder if it is in one of their repos 02:08 dcook IR ^^ 02:08 dcook http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipermail/koha/2010-July/024728.html 02:08 |R gosh usemarcon could definitaly not be more esoteric... 02:08 dcook Although you'd probably need a bit of input 02:08 dcook Not a bad idea 02:07 |R with the time I use for this I might as well just pay someone in France to do it :P 02:06 |R ok :) 02:05 dcook I think unimarc separates out more fields 02:05 dcook It might be easier to go marc21 to unimarc actually... 02:05 eythian Maybe the Imperial March 02:05 dcook ^^ 02:04 eythian I don't believe anything to do with MARC could have that effect. 02:04 dcook lol 02:04 rangi if you play it backwards its here comes the sun by the beatles 02:04 dcook Although that would be weird 02:04 dcook It might've just had tags that were used in the dataset 02:04 dcook I wrote that a while ago so it might not be entirely comprehensive 02:03 eythian just play it backwards 02:03 |R It'll at least help me confirm a conversion ;) 02:03 dcook np 02:03 dcook Spent a while comparing the two specs 02:03 dcook IR: unimarc to marc21 so not super helpful but possibly better than nothing 02:03 |R thanks :) 02:02 pastebot "dcook" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "unimarc to marc21" (77 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1 02:02 |R (and that MARConvert is a windows gui, MARCview runs in wine but :P) 02:01 |R dcook: what kind of mapping? :) 02:00 dcook IR: I'll share my mappings with you at least 02:00 rangi </oclc> 02:00 rangi btw pay us some money for some data you actually already own 02:00 |R :| 02:00 |R rangi: yep | 02:00 rangi good luck with that 02:00 rangi we released the code, but its utterly unusable 02:00 |R dcook: hehe yes, everything to marc21 seems more popular :P 01:59 |R exactly 01:59 dcook Mm, looks like my little project was unimarc to marc21.. 01:59 rangi who does that???!??! 01:59 rangi http://worldcat.org/devnet/code/MARCView-Convert/trunk/clients/ 01:59 rangi wtf 01:59 wizzyrea the internets can sense haters. 01:58 dcook rangi: They know it's you! ;) 01:58 |R haha :) 01:58 wizzyrea I need a gif for "How WEIRD!" 01:58 rangi wow oclc.org is slow for me 01:57 |R :P 01:57 rangi (that was sarcasm btw :)) 01:57 rangi weird even 01:57 |R my guess* (damn laptop keyboard) 01:57 rangi how werid that oclc would do something like that 01:57 |R I looked at their repository, but my is that when it got open sourced and given to OCLC, it somehow seems to have gotten unevenly released.. 01:56 rangi if you can get the source that is 01:56 rangi maybe they have an xslt file in there :) 01:56 rangi id hunt in the source 01:56 |R they always talk about both, but then MARConvert needs to be custom built for your need, 01:56 rangi ah lamers 01:55 |R w 01:55 |R but it's not available actually, it's just MARCvie 01:55 rangi and its apache license 01:55 rangi that marconvert looks like it shold do what you want 01:55 dcook Actually, don't BibLibre have marc21 to unimarc tools? 01:55 rangi From MARC21 to UNIMARC or the reverse 01:55 rangi yeah that was what i was thinking 01:54 |R so, marc to marc-xml then xslt to unimarc-xml to ... 01:54 dcook IR: This isn't complete but perhaps you could reverse engineer it (http://search.cpan.org/~fredericd/marc-moose-1.0.4/lib/MARC/Moose/Formater/UnimarcToMarc21.pm) 01:54 rangi http://www.systemsplanning.com/marconvert/ <-- maybe this? 01:53 |R say* 01:53 |R sorry for the mishap, I usually proprietary in french (and I agree! ;) 01:52 rangi and then write a few lines of perl to use that to do it 01:52 rangi what id look for is an xslt file that does the crosswalk 01:52 rangi IR: just a point, (since you hit my pet peeve) the opposite of open source is not commercial, it's proprietary .. both proprietary and opensource can be commercial and non commercial 01:50 |R I think I've found the other way around at some point but ... hehe 01:50 |R yeah, no 1-to-1 it seems, but then again, a stock one would probably do in our case wher eit's just journals title / isbn and such... 01:49 eythian that said, you could probably automate 90+% of it 01:49 eythian I get the impression that they're semantically different in parts, so a general automated conversion is impossible. 01:48 |R and from what I understand some commercial SIGB do it, but simple tools need you to write your own convesion config (And i'm no marc21/unimarc expert at all) 01:48 |R yeah, we're a small journal platform in québec using marc21 but people in france need unimarc 01:47 jcamins Yeah, that's not something that most people do. 01:47 |R I've been looking around for such a conversion tool and it's ... well... very hard to find 01:46 |R oh ok, thanks for saving me from trying ! 01:46 jcamins |R: Koha doesn't do any MARC conversion. You'll need to use something else to do that. 01:45 |R I've got a weird question, I need to convert our MARC21 file I have to UNIMARC... I see it's easy to import into Koha, but is the unimarc export as easy for a stock install? or anything I should take into account? :) 01:44 |R Hey there :) 01:37 wizzyrea rangi++ for mentioning longview 01:27 jcamins lol 01:27 dcook If I knew you didn't drink/like beer, I'd say I like the way you think 01:26 jcamins dcook: oh, I thought a case was 24. 01:25 * cjh fades back into the darkness 01:25 dcook He lives! 01:25 cjh ty :) 01:25 dcook In this case, I'm referring to 6 bottles. I think that's outrageously expensive :p 01:25 dcook jcamins: $20 for a case of beer? 01:25 dcook cjh++ indeed 01:24 wizzyrea cjh++ again with the gitify and general awesomeness. 01:23 jcamins Unless you're looking at one of the larger instances. 01:23 jcamins That seems very cheap for a case of beer. 01:22 jcamins A case of beer? 01:22 dcook For the cost of a (small) case of beer, why not, eh? 01:21 dcook I don't know what I would really use it for but it would be fun nonetheless... 01:21 dcook That is a rather nice set of guides as well 01:17 dcook That does look rather rad. I could use all the help I could get on monitoring a system. 01:13 rangi dcook: https://library.linode.com/longview they have this now too, which is pretty sweet 01:09 dcook :) 01:07 * jcamins can't get over how good that was. 01:04 jcamins Yeah... wow. 01:01 jcamins dcook: the thought has crossed my mind. 01:00 * dcook wonders if jcamins's retirement plan involves becoming a chef 00:59 wizzyrea well that sounds magic. 00:59 jcamins It's amazing. 00:59 jcamins wizzyrea: I sauteed the asparagus with flour and bacon, then seasoned with red pepper flakes and rice vinegar. 00:59 wizzyrea well in recent times 00:59 wizzyrea koha-community.org has only ever done 2gb 00:59 rangi download does the most traffic of any of hte sites i have on there 00:58 rangi http://download.koha-community.org/awstats/awstats.pl 00:58 rangi ive never got close 00:58 rangi thats hosting all the downloads 00:57 dcook That's true. Having never run a server, I'm never sure how much traffic actually gets generated. 00:57 wizzyrea it's ludicrous 00:56 rangi you get like 2066GB a month 00:56 dcook Well that answers that question 00:56 rangi so 52 GB is 2% 00:56 rangi you have used 2% 00:56 rangi Total: 52.8 GB 00:55 rangi dunno, never had it happen 00:55 dcook What happens if you exceed your usage with Linode? Extra fees or do they just halt traffic? 00:54 * dcook looks to see if openshift is still free.. 00:53 dcook Sweet. I keep thinking about getting the 1024 just so I can play around wherever without opening up my home network. Hmm.. 00:52 rangi right dashboard and logs back 00:52 rangi nginx is out in front doing all the static stuffs 00:52 rangi ive tuned them quite a bit 00:52 rangi yup 00:51 dcook That handles bugzilla and all the things? 00:51 rangi its just hte 1024 one 00:38 dcook cheers, rangi 00:38 rangi ok, bugzilla is going to go down for a minute, and wahanui and the logbot, resizing the disk on my linode bbiab 00:37 bag good story good times :D 00:37 bag heh 00:37 bag I always think about trea and whiskey :) 00:36 dcook That's true. I guess you don't want to rub the rest of our noses in the (lack of) beer 00:35 wizzyrea it's because we're at beer o'clock 00:34 dcook I guess you folk don't talk about beer enough 00:34 dcook That's sometimes the third thought ;) 00:34 eythian not beer o'clock? For shame! 00:34 dcook When I think about Catalyst, my first two thoughts are usually "open source" and "curry wednesday" 00:33 eythian curry wednesday was today, indeed. 00:33 wizzyrea *nod* 00:33 * dcook almost wants to try something new today 00:33 dcook Hmm, curry wednesday? 00:32 wizzyrea i specialise in that. 00:32 dcook Mmm, you guys are making me hungry 00:32 dcook hehe 00:32 wizzyrea "steamed" potatoes ^.^ 00:32 dcook Maybe for 'baked' potatoes 00:32 dcook I don't think we're allowed to use the microwave for cooking in the house 00:31 bag with a little olive oil salt and pepper :) 00:31 wizzyrea grilling it would be good. But more work than microwaving. 00:31 dcook I think I usually just have it fried 00:31 * dcook likes bag's idea of grilling the asparagus 00:31 dcook Nothing like a good trip to the grocery store to wear one out 00:31 dcook I heard bacon 00:16 wizzyrea oof! 00:15 jcamins The bacon's already cooked, which is less than ideal, but combining bacon and asparagus sounds inspired. 00:15 jcamins I carried 40# (18kg) of groceries home, and now I can hardly lift my arms. 00:15 wizzyrea might take a bit longer to cook though 00:15 wizzyrea bacon would totally work too. 00:14 * jcamins feels very decrepit this evening. 00:14 jcamins I have bacon. 00:14 jcamins I was inspired by the pancetta idea. 00:14 jcamins Hehe. 00:14 wizzyrea garlic, if you feel like it 00:13 wizzyrea eek sorry 00:13 wizzyrea olive oil, salt, pepper, and in the microwave for about 5 minutes 00:13 jcamins I've been holding my breath waiting to hear it! 00:13 * jcamins passes out from lack of oxygen. 00:10 wizzyrea my second favorite way, is terribly pedestrian 00:10 wizzyrea hehe 00:09 jcamins You've had good advice the last few times. 00:09 jcamins wizzyrea: I figured you deserved a (brief) break. 00:09 bag heh 00:09 bag jcamins: as always grill it :) 00:09 wizzyrea though you didn't ask me :P 00:09 jcamins Unfortunately, I am sans pancetta. 00:08 jcamins Ooh, nice! 00:08 wizzyrea with a bit of parmesan cheese. 00:08 wizzyrea you should wrap it in pancetta and bake it. 00:08 schnydszch hi koha community! 00:07 jcamins dcook: what should I do with the asparagus?