Time Nick Message 00:00 wizzyrea yea no crust on that one. Unless you count the potatoes. 00:00 wizzyrea :P 00:00 * bag didn't really learn how to do roasted potatoes correctly until my last trip to see my english cousins 00:01 bag I love them now - my grandma used to always make the best ones and Sonja and I could never repeat them 00:02 bag but gingin's grandma was feeding her persimmons today and calling it mango.. funny thing was gingin was finally saying the word "mango" 00:02 bag poor girl will always call persimmons - mangos now 00:02 bag jcamins ^^^ should enjoy that one 00:02 eythian I'm given to understand that they are really very different things 00:02 jcamins lol 00:02 bag yup :) 00:11 wizzyrea I can't even... *sob* it's so beautiful. 00:11 * wizzyrea ticks boxes and modifies and deletes items all afternoon 00:12 dcook Question to package users... 00:12 dcook How easy is it to go from a standard install to a package install? 00:13 eythian umm 00:13 eythian it's quite possible 00:13 dcook That's good to hear :) 00:13 eythian Though probably best done by setting a package-driven instance on the machine and moving the data into it. 00:14 dcook That's what I was thinking, but I was wondering if that might cause any issues 00:14 dcook I've only done package installs, but I imagine it depends on where they've put their Koha files? 00:15 eythian yeah, you could technically convert a regular install to a package install, but you'll always have issues with it I'd expect. 00:18 wizzyrea khall is long gone eh 00:18 bag yeah he's been out a few hours now 00:18 wizzyrea is alright 00:19 wizzyrea I think merely invoking his name helped my understanding of what his test plan was trying to tell me 00:27 WaylonR hiya all 00:27 WaylonR hiya mtompset 00:30 dcook Hmm, is there an uninstall option for Koha? 00:30 dcook I've never noticed one.. 00:30 jcamins dcook: rm and drop database. 00:31 eythian koha-remove 00:31 wahanui i guess koha-remove is for removing instances. 00:31 jcamins With packages, of course, koha-remove and apt-get purge 00:31 dcook So go around and make sure you've nuked all the koha dirs? 00:31 jcamins If you did a standard install, yeah, pretty much. 00:32 dcook Then whatever apache config 00:32 jcamins Right, that's one of the things you're rm'ing. 00:32 dcook There's no system level Koha user with a standard install, right? 00:32 jcamins If you created one there is. 00:32 jcamins But I'd ask myself why I was doing this, and probably decide this was unnecessary. 00:33 dcook Switching from standard to packages 00:33 dcook (Or just in general deciding you don't want Koha anymore) 00:34 eythian in general, if you're repurposing a server, you'd reinstall everything anyway 00:35 jcamins That's what I mean. I'd usually just reinstall the OS. 00:37 dcook Interesting. That would be my default position as well, but I figured that might be a bit over and beyond what people would generally do. 00:38 jcamins If you're running a serious server, paranoia should be the order of the day. 00:38 dcook I suspected that I was in the right line of work...;) 00:39 dcook Hmm. Good to know. 00:40 dcook Mind you, eythian, when you say in general...in general for vendors or in general for most folk? 00:40 dcook Surely people must run servers of their own that run multiple systems. 00:40 dcook Or would a smart sysadmin put every system on its own VM? 00:40 eythian if something is important enough to have a server devoted to it, you should do it right 00:40 eythian yeah 00:41 eythian even the little self-hosting councils we work with have a system with a bunch of VMs 00:41 eythian it's pretty much the best practice way these days 00:41 dcook It certainly seems the most common 00:41 dcook Oh, looks like the internet is going down... 00:41 dcook If I cut out, thanks for the help and advice :) 00:42 dcook I'll have to inquire with the folks I might be helping 00:42 jcamins dcook: for a personal server, I wouldn't worry about uninstalling unless I was running out of space. In which case I would apply rm judiciously. 00:44 dcook Although you'd only need to do so for programs that you installed from source, yes? 00:44 dcook As packages seem pretty easy to remove overall 00:44 dcook In this case, I'm just wondering about any potential conflicts 00:45 dcook Like trying to install the packages but finding outdated Koha files already there and then things exploding 00:46 eythian the packages and a tarball install some things to the same location, so there is a small risk of something going a bit weird. 00:47 dcook Exactly my fear 00:48 dcook I suppose I could use the koha-install-log as a wayfinder.. 00:52 dcook Hmm, I swear there used to be a page that said where the packages put files... 00:53 dcook Ahh 00:53 eythian apt-file list koha-common 00:54 dcook debian / koha-common.README.Debian is the one I was thinking of 00:54 dcook But I like your way much better 00:55 eythian also debian/koha-common.dirs and what not in there 00:57 dcook Apparently I don't have the apt-file command.. 00:58 wizzyrea apt file, no dash? 00:58 dcook Looks like it has a dash 00:59 jcamins apt-get install apt-file? 00:59 dcook jcamins: That's my next thought, but I think it's supposed to just be a command in apt O_o 01:00 jcamins apt-file? No it's not. 01:00 dcook I guess it does have its own package, huh 01:00 jcamins You're thinking of... 01:00 wizzyrea yeesh, what OS? 01:00 dcook wizzyrea: Debian 01:00 jcamins dpkg -c 01:00 jcamins But dpkg -c requires you to have the deb package file. 01:01 jcamins Or you're thinking of apt-cache show -f, which I believe requires you to have the package installed. 01:04 eythian apt-file is its own thing because it's not something that end users generally need, and it also has to maintain an extra database of all package info 01:06 dcook Hmm, laptop is not having a good day 01:06 dcook Well, thanks in any case :) 02:00 mtompset WaylonR: I'm working up my listed of things I commented on, so I'll make it back to 9055 eventually. 02:00 mtompset dpk: You here? 02:25 WaylonR mtompset, cool. 02:57 wizzyrea errr 02:57 wizzyrea with the syspref UseCourseReserves set to "don't use" should course reserves be showing up in the More menu? 02:59 wizzyrea the syspref does seem to correctly hide it from the OPAC 03:01 wizzyrea @later tell khall question: with the syspref UseCourseReserves set to "don't use" should course reserves be showing up in the More menu? 03:01 huginn wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. 03:47 mtompset wizzyrea: Is that related to a bug? 03:47 wizzyrea it is, if it's not intended ;) 03:47 wizzyrea but no, not a formal bug, yet. 03:52 eythian @wunder nzwn 03:52 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (4:30 PM NZDT on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). 04:09 bag evening 04:09 bag @wunder 93102 04:09 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 10.9°C (8:09 PM PST on November 18, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 04:10 eythian why do people keep trying to port koha to windows? It just seems like a bad idea. 04:10 mtompset eythian: Because a large percentage of computers run windows by default when you purchase them. 04:10 mtompset And being able to use koha on a default computer is a nice thing. 04:11 eythian It's not a server-quality operating system, unless you pay extra. 04:12 eythian also, I'd expect you'd spend more time making things work that are a bit broken than you would spend installing and learning linux. 04:12 bag I'm with eythian on this -- WHY 04:12 mtompset I'll give you that, but you should already know that if some corners can be cut, people will cut them. 04:12 eythian it certainly sounds like the wrong corner to cut 04:12 eythian you're also totally out of the update stream and running an unsupported system 04:13 mtompset That is true. And yes... but people are afraid of learning curves. 04:13 mtompset Fear makes people do stupid things. 04:14 bag ah but eythian that's from the Secretary General 04:14 eythian bag: oh, so it is! 04:14 mtompset Where are you reading this?! 04:14 eythian email 04:14 mtompset oh my! 04:14 eythian koha-devel 04:14 wahanui koha-devel is most likely the best koha list there is (Hey, Im a bot, im biased) and can be found at http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel 04:15 bag I'd like a fun signature like that 04:15 bag from bag - jedi wannabe 04:16 * bag waves hand and eythian accepts 04:16 eythian heh 04:17 bag DAMN it works!!! 04:17 * bag quickly takes a screenshot 04:34 bag nice response eythian 04:34 bag eythian++ 04:34 bag heya mtompset I forget were are you located? 04:35 mtompset currently Canada. 04:38 bag ah 04:38 mtompset Yourself, bag? 04:39 mtompset I'm in Ontario. 04:39 bag Santa Barbara CA 04:39 bag otherwise paradise :P 04:39 bag heh 04:43 mtompset gangster or amish? ;) 04:45 dcook bag: You have some strange weather though 04:45 dcook Wasn't it nearly 20 degrees higher just the other day 04:45 bag yeah that was an odd evening 04:45 bag tonight is a little more normal 04:48 bag but it was still close to 20 during the day - which is it most days of the year 04:52 dcook Does sound rather nice :) 05:04 dcook Can someone else take a look at the DelItem sub in Items.pm? 05:05 dcook Specifically line 626 in master 05:05 dcook It looks like we're trying to set a 'marc' column in the 'deleteditems' table 05:09 dcook The code looks the same in 3.8 and we're getting software errors 05:09 dcook I don't know how that could've ever worked though O_o 05:09 mtompset looking, dcook. 05:09 dcook Thanks, mtompset :) 05:09 bag hmm dcook give me like 5 minutes and I can look also 05:10 mtompset I thought when you deleted an item, it was to transfer from the items table into the deleted items table. 05:10 dcook Sweet. Sure thing, bag. 05:10 bag just one more thing to get done and then I'm all yours 05:10 dcook Agreed, mtompset 05:10 dcook _koha_delete_item transfers the row from the items table to the deleted items table then removes the row from the items table 05:11 dcook After that though... 05:12 dcook We reindex Zebra with the bib record (without any items attached), then try to put marc into the deleteditems table O_o 05:12 mtompset Actually, that's the thing I find weird. 05:12 mtompset Does the GetMarcBiblio require the item to still be there? 05:13 dcook GetMarcBiblio just gets the Marcxml 05:13 dcook Although it takes an optional parameter to add in the items to that Marcxml record 05:14 dcook Which is missing in this case 05:14 mtompset But _koha_delete_item shouldn't affect the MarcXML field. 05:14 dcook No, it wouldn't 05:14 mtompset So, I guess setting the marc=? means it is trying to tie back to the original MARC. 05:14 dcook But in Zebra we use a combination of the marcxml bib record and the items (which we build into xml that we integrate into that marcxml) 05:15 mtompset Hmmm... if the MARCXML field isn't updated when you delete, then your indexing will break. 05:15 dcook It would appear that way to me 05:15 mtompset Is that what you are getting at, dcook? 05:17 dcook Also, I have someone who is getting fatal software errors 05:17 dcook Which seems odd, as I figure someone would've noticed those before.. 05:17 * mtompset grumbles about the evils of the indexing mechanisms. :) 05:20 bag dcook: is this on master? 05:20 bag back 05:22 dcook Yep 05:23 dcook Ahhh, interesting. I see a deleteditems table with a marc column in it 05:23 dcook bag: Sorry, the error isn't 05:23 dcook The error is on 3.8 05:23 dcook But the code is the same as master 05:23 dcook (3.8.0 to be exact) 05:23 bag according to schema marc is unused in Koha 05:24 bag http://schema.koha-community.org/tables/deleteditems.html 05:24 dcook Intriguing. Tis lies! 05:24 mtompset It is lies. 05:25 mtompset Code says otherwise. 05:25 mtompset Code never lies. 05:25 bag dcook: the only thing that I can think of is that - this is left over code from when items where in the marc-record 05:25 bag ie. before 3.4 when we started stripping out the 952's (well that's MARC21) 05:25 dcook bag: Agreed 05:26 bag so since the items aren't in marcformat anymore it doesn't cause a problem 05:26 bag and most likely your error is from something else 05:26 dcook Yeah, the error looks like something else 05:26 dcook Well, sort of 05:26 bag so what exactly is the error? 05:26 dcook If you look in your deleteditems table, you show see a 'marc' column 05:26 bag you may have posted it early and I missed it 05:27 bag show/should ? 05:27 dcook Ah yes, should ;) 05:27 bag ok one sec - let me bring up a server 05:27 dcook In my case, it appears that is missing from this person's database which is distinctly odd 05:27 dcook So the software error is just my problem (despite being an outdated bit of code) 05:28 dcook I think it likely that the indexing isn't working properly though 05:28 bag poop my dev server is not really used much - but that's an empty set for me 05:29 bag ah dcook just alter that table then 05:29 bag ah indexing is a different problem 05:29 bag and 3.8 I think there was an issue with indexing IIRC 05:29 bag also are you using DOM or GRS1 05:30 bag most likely it sounds like you should just do a full reindes... what's the size of the db # of recors 05:30 bag records 05:30 * bag types too fast when he's excited 05:33 * bag scared away dcook :( 05:33 bag heh 05:34 dcook Sorry, was chatting to the boss ;) 05:34 mtompset is the alphabetical order in systempreference supposed to be case sensitive? 05:34 dcook bag: Yeah, I'm just going to alter the table to fix the software error 05:35 bag cool 05:35 bag mtompset: I have no idea 05:35 dcook As for the indexing, the filter wouldn't matter. It's the special update 05:35 dcook I might take a little look to see if it does break the indexed record.. 05:35 dcook Well, maybe not break so much as corrupt 05:36 bag a full reindex would clear any special updates :) 05:36 dcook oh brb 05:38 bag hmm the signed off queue isn't too bad right now - I'm seeing 55 and only 34 bugs - pretty awesome job #koha 05:38 * bag looks to see if there is a good bug to QA tonight 05:41 bag hmm bug 11112 05:41 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11112 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Koha::Calendar->new loads all holidays 05:42 mtompset bug 11242? 05:42 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11242 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , fix opac-MARCdetail.pl bizarre ordering of data and noisy warnings 05:44 bag anything with speed and I'm all about testing (as long as it's in my skill set) :P 05:44 bag oh mtompset I'll look at that one next 05:45 mtompset I figure it was small and simple enough. :) 05:45 bag cool give me 20 minutes and I'm on it 05:45 mtompset Anything to quiet the floody error logs. :) 05:46 bag usually I'm about 20 minutes per patch :) 05:46 mtompset Depends on the patch size. ;) 05:47 bag bigger they are add onto 20 minutes then :D 05:47 mtompset Another small, remove floodiness type bug is bug 11183. :) 05:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11183 normal, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Warnings in opac 05:54 dcook back 05:54 dcook thanks bag and mtompset for looking into that issue before with me :) 06:13 mtompset not a problem. 06:13 bag ok I've hit my tired point 06:13 bag zzzzzzzzzz 06:22 mtompset As have I, bag. 06:22 mtompset Have a great day, #koha cait WaylonR bag dcook etc. :) 06:38 * cait waves sleepily 06:38 dcook hey ya cait :) 06:38 * dcook says pretending not to be at the office 06:39 cait jej 06:39 cait heh even 06:39 dcook Oh my, you are tired! 06:40 dcook Cheap tuesday cinema though, so I'm out! 06:40 dcook Have a good day, cait :) 06:40 dcook (And everyone else!) 06:40 cait thx 06:42 rangi evening 06:43 rangi @later tell tcohen yeah squashing them is probably the easiest/best 06:43 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 07:36 * magnuse waves 07:38 reiveune hello 07:38 wahanui hi, reiveune 07:38 magnuse bonjour paul_p et reiveune 07:39 magnuse @wunder boo 07:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.18 in 988 hPa (Steady). 07:39 magnuse @wunder marseille 07:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0°C (8:30 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Steady). 07:39 magnuse @wunder konstanz 07:39 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.2°C (8:35 AM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Falling). 07:39 reiveune salut magnuse , cait, kathryn , rangi 07:39 cait hi reiveune 07:39 paul_p good morning #koha 07:42 cait good morning paul_p 07:44 cait ok, have to run, bye 07:52 samueld hi everybody 07:58 alex_a bonjour 07:58 wahanui salut, alex_a 09:22 cait hi #koha 09:26 cait Joubu: thx for the seasons :) does the automatic locale detection work for you? it didn't for me butit's a bit hard to test 09:31 Joubu no, it does not work 09:39 cait ah, not good 09:39 cait i was hoping i just missed changing something - i couldn't test with french 09:40 cait Joubu: bug 11265 09:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11265 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Problems with locale saving/editing on serial subscriptions 09:44 schnydszch Hi! Koha community, I'm trying out this UPDATE items SET more_subfields_xml = UpdateXML(more_subfields_xml, '//datafield[@tag="952"]/subfield[@code="i"]/text()', 'MR_00-00032-(PO); MD_2001-04-08') where barcode = '27490' so I can update my items field. 09:44 schnydszch this in mysql. would it be possible? 09:45 rangi hmm if they come back, the answer is no 09:45 rangi post 3.4 09:47 magnuse oh rangi, there was something i wanted to ask you 09:47 magnuse the opl people have trouble cloning from git.koha-community.org, because of firewall issues 09:48 magnuse do you think it would be doable to enable cloning over http? 09:48 schnydszch hmm. how do i do it correctly? is there a way? 09:49 rangi schnydszch: actually i was wrong, 952i isnt mapped, so yes that should work 09:49 schnydszch I have 952i set actually 09:49 rangi magnuse: they can clone from the mirror http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git 09:49 cait it's mapped in latre versions only i think 09:50 rangi schnydszch: then you just change the column it's mapped to 09:50 schnydszch it's institutional 09:50 schnydszch but i get 0 row(s) affected. 09:50 rangi more_subfields_xml is only for those ones that are not mapped to an actual column in items 09:50 magnuse rangi: thanks, i think that is what they are doing already 09:51 rangi schnydszch: and you are sure there is data in that column? 09:51 schnydszch hmm no data 09:51 schnydszch how to do it if it has no data? 09:52 rangi well did you just recently map it? 09:52 rangi and is that data in more_subfields_xml instead? 09:52 schnydszch map meaning added in MARC Bibliographic Frameworks? 09:53 schnydszch I added it a long long time ago 09:54 schnydszch I think it's not in more_subfield_xml since, it was leave blank 09:54 rangi and its not in the column you mapped it to? 09:55 schnydszch we haven't implemented adding data in 951i yet 09:55 schnydszch 952i 09:56 schnydszch For this particularly bibliographic record, there is no data in 952i yet. 09:59 rangi right 10:00 rangi so update items set whatevercolumn = 'value' where barcode = 'something' 10:00 schnydszch I added the subfields a long long time ago 10:01 schnydszch yep but i'm updating xml data in more_subfields_xml :) 10:03 rangi why? 10:03 rangi if you mapped it to a column 10:03 rangi then you dont do that 10:03 rangi and you said you mapped it to a column 10:04 rangi mapped meaning linking it to a column in the items table 10:05 * rangi goes to sleep 10:14 schnydszch linking in the Advance constraints? I leave it blank 13:12 tcohen morning 13:13 cait hi tcohen 13:13 tcohen hi cait 13:13 tcohen where's kf? 13:13 wahanui kf is probably cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. 13:14 cait kf got kidnapped 13:15 magnuse good thing we have cait as a backup! 13:16 cait tcohen: someone else is using the nick i think 13:16 cait yeah... so i lost 13:16 tcohen cait: maybe my notebook :-D 13:26 oleonard Hi #koha 13:42 tcohen gmcharlt: "Tag 50% is not a valid tag", does it sound familiar 13:44 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gmcharlt: I get this when running prove -v t/db_dependent/Search.t" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/264 13:44 tcohen (btw: I wrapped a new_from_xml call from _Zconn_event in an eval block) 14:42 gaetan_B hello 14:51 oleonard Hi gaetan_B 15:03 cait hi oleonard and gaetan_B :) 15:05 gaetan_B hi cait, hi oleonard :) 15:20 mtompset Greetings, gaetan_B oleonard cait maximep rambutan. :) 15:21 rambutan morning 15:21 cait hi mtompset and rambutan 15:21 rambutan morning cait 15:59 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug11221' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=942226d333da025e946bac7102e6269a59bcfd58> / Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=15812e80c8e6db286bf96e63e71f7239eaf50b25> / Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k 16:02 jenkins_koha Starting build #224 for job master_maria (previous build: SUCCESS) 16:02 gmcharlt tcohen: the warning is fine; please read the commit log for t/db_depedendent/Search.t regarding bug 10684 16:02 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10684 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Koha search dies on undecodable records 16:03 tcohen i've attached a small followup for bug 11096 so the tests pass 16:03 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra 16:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #1512 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 16:11 paul123 hello 16:11 paul123 I am am a newbie at Koha 16:12 paul123 i've manage to setup Koha 3.12 16:12 oleonard Hi paul123 16:13 cait hi paul 16:13 cait paul123: 16:13 paul123 now, I am importing data into Koha via Stage import 16:13 paul123 hi guys 16:13 paul123 my records (books) do not have barcode 16:14 paul123 so my question is, is it possible to autogenerate barcode for these imported records? 16:16 oleonard I don't think you can do that on import paul123 16:16 paul123 hmm 16:17 cait paul123: I thin oleonard is right there 16:17 cait you will have to edit them later - or you could manipulate them on sql level, but then you have to make sure you reindex 16:17 cait reindex = rebuild your search index 16:18 paul123 i've been using MarcEdit to parse my records from a txt file 16:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug8854' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=49916a669be56f82f09433f3cd70649d60a568d8> / bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1aa43b75f6a48d310cf4d9c6e3d21f5e01dc364> 16:19 paul123 is there a tool that I can use autogenerate barcodes for these 36,000 records before staging import? 16:24 SlyzertVoltrond you mean the barcodes aren't already in there? 16:24 oleonard paul123: I too use MarcEdit to perform batch edits before importing, but I'm not aware of a feature which will generate barcodes 16:25 ashimema anyone here happen to have pazpar working and want to test a bug? 16:28 oleonard ashimema: I wonder if any of the changes to that template over the last few years have actually been tested 16:29 ashimema I thought that.. but it's a shame that my patch is being blocked because of it 16:32 ashimema Going through the code on that page, I can't see that it's been updated in many years for the other fixes that have gone in elsewhere. 16:32 ashimema oleonard: Did you test it for bootstrap..? 16:33 oleonard Nope :P 16:34 ashimema haha.. then your right.. I don't thik anyone has tested it in years.. 16:34 cait ashimema: remind me a bit later? i think that is not really actively used 16:34 cait but have to run out now 16:34 cait bye all 16:34 ashimema Maybe I can get pianohacker to try it out.. I know he's got pazpar running at least as he uses it for his overdirve stuff 16:38 francharb good morning all 16:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'new/bug11269' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=477b9716f1534ae7117bd99e6b3c2adc3d8c2737> / Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f6f6d2b0c4d4e8a4ed5ab17fbbf66393f8a2c69> 16:46 paul_p welcome back francharb !!! 16:47 paul_p francharb (j'ai pas eu le temps de te saluer sur notre channel BibLibre, tu es passé trop vite ;-) ) 16:49 jcamins francharb: morning? Did you move to Canada? 16:49 bag morning 16:49 wahanui morning is a state of cat 16:49 * ebegin is proud to announce that francharb (previously from BibLibre) is now located in Montreal and working for inLibro 16:49 francharb yes jcamins 16:49 wahanui jcamins is very, very irascible. 16:49 bag coolness :) 16:50 reiveune bye 16:50 jcamins Awesome! Welcome to this side of the Atlantic! 16:50 francharb I moved a couple of month ago 16:50 francharb late june 16:50 druthb hi, francharb! :) 16:50 francharb and here I am, back in the game ;) 16:50 francharb thank you jcamins! 16:50 francharb hi druthb 16:51 francharb whats up in texas? 16:52 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #224: UNSTABLE in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/224/ 16:52 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11221: ensure that SQLHelper uses NULL rather than 0000-00-00 as default date value 16:52 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates 16:52 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string 16:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11221 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , New patrons are created with invalid dateofbirth value if field is left empty 16:53 druthb The temperature, for one thing, francharb. Unseasonably warm for this time of year. 16:53 druthb @wunder 77098 16:53 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 19.4°C (10:53 AM CST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.11 in 1020 hPa (Rising). 16:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #225 for job master_maria (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #223 4 days 1 hr ago) 16:53 gmcharlt francharb++ 16:53 druthb And other than that, work work work… :) 16:53 francharb thank you gmcharlt 16:53 francharb @wunder montreal 16:53 huginn francharb: Error: No such location could be found. 16:54 francharb ahah 16:54 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec 16:54 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 1.0°C (11:00 AM EST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 16:54 druthb brr 16:54 * paul_p is very happy to see francharb back ! really ! 16:54 francharb anyway, it's colder here than in houston, for sure! 16:55 * paul_p think ebegin had a good idea hiring francharb. And hope francharb had negociated a good income, because he's worth it ;-) 16:55 paul_p (and everybody will be happy at the end) 16:55 francharb :) 16:55 bag :) 16:55 bag @wunder 93102 16:55 huginn bag: The current temperature in Westside, Santa Barbara, California is 14.3°C (8:55 AM PST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Falling). 16:56 francharb I'm glad being back here! 16:56 francharb for now, I need to set up my laptop! 16:56 francharb see ya 17:14 tcohen paul_p: you have a couple of pictures in your phone i'd like to see :-D 17:20 * cait waves 17:22 * ashimema waves 17:22 paul_p tcohen you're right. could you drop me a mail so I don't forget ? 17:23 tcohen paul_p: of course. how are u doing? 17:24 paul_p not sure, but I'll probably put them on my piwigo gallery 17:25 druthb hi, cait! :) 17:25 cait hi druthb :) 17:25 cait lovely photo on fb :) 17:25 druthb thanx! :) 17:27 druthb The boss handed out holiday presents at the banquet last night. AAA membership, chocolates, and movie tickets. :) 17:27 cait aaa? 17:28 druthb automobile service club. 17:28 cait oh 17:28 druthb roadside service, trip planning, some other discounts. 17:28 cait what did you get? 17:28 cait all of that? :) 17:28 druthb Same as everyone else—all three. 17:28 cait very cool :) 17:28 gmcharlt @arewethereyet 17:28 huginn gmcharlt: Error: The command "arewethereyet" is available in the Assorted and ReleaseDay plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "arewethereyet". 17:28 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn. 17:28 cait hi gmcharlt :) 17:29 druthb yep. There are 190 employees now—I estimate they spent nearly $20K on those presents this year. The for-profit world is a very different pace. 17:29 cait sounds like it 17:29 wahanui sounds like it is beer o'clock for you dcook? ;) 17:29 paul_p tcohen http://famillepoulain.piwigo.com/index?/category/4-kohacon13_reno_nevada 17:29 cait we have a christmas party, but everyone pays for their food :) 17:29 gmcharlt @arewethereyet 17:29 huginn gmcharlt: Not yet - wait 2 days 17:30 cait gmcharlt: getting impatient? :) 17:30 druthb We had open bar cocktail hour, then dinner. The filet mignon was just wonderful. :) 17:31 tcohen paul_p++ 17:32 gmcharlt paul_p++ 17:33 paul_p for the record = piwigo is an OpenSource project, managed by Pierrick Le Gall, that oldtimers of the Koha community probably remember ;-) 17:34 cait nice photos :) 17:34 tcohen great photos! 17:36 cait tcohen: oh, you had yours on google+ right? 17:36 druthb great photos, and a great-looking gallery—I've been using Gallery3, and I dislike it a lot. 17:36 druthb Might be migration time. 17:36 cait i wanted to download a few to show my family over the holidays 17:36 tcohen cait: yes 17:37 cait found thenm :) 17:38 cait i like the photo with tcohen and the pumpkin ;) 17:38 tcohen heh 17:40 cait ok, i have paul_p and tcohen - the rest is on flickr? :) 17:41 druthb I haven't got all mine up yet, but they'll be on gallery.hiruthie.net. 17:41 druthb s/all/any of/ 17:43 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 17:43 jenkins_koha Project master_maria build #225: FIXED in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/225/ 17:43 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters 17:43 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() 17:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8854 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , invoice filters don't all work 17:43 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11269 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Latest MARC::Record makes visible some wrong usage of field->subfield in C4::Search 17:47 oleonard That reminds me... I started posting photos to flickr and then didn't finish... 18:02 tcohen :-D 18:02 tcohen oleonard++ # more photos 18:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #124 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 18:06 mtompset tcohen: DOH! I didn't report it. Thanks for reporting and fixing it. 18:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1512: UNSTABLE in 2 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1512/ 18:16 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11221: ensure that SQLHelper uses NULL rather than 0000-00-00 as default date value 18:16 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 11221: (follow-up) add unit test to test handling empty strings as dates 18:16 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 11221: (follow-up) test for NULL rather than empty string 18:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11221 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , New patrons are created with invalid dateofbirth value if field is left empty 18:18 jenkins_koha Starting build #1513 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1511 3 days 22 hr ago) 19:02 mtompset Wow... Koha Pi is coming. 19:02 mtompset 1 more day. 19:03 gaetan_B bye! 19:03 jcamins rambutan: random non-Koha question for you: who do you permit to use the 3d printer? 19:05 jcamins The question of whether kids have access to 3d printers came up in a conversation. 19:05 rambutan We havn't had time to finish building it, but when we do, after a short test phase where we figure out how to use it ourselves.... 19:05 rambutan we will let just about any patron use it, including kids. 19:05 cait yay! 19:06 jcamins Nice! 19:06 jcamins Thanks. 19:06 rambutan The way we envision it working is that they (all them "thays") will download/created the images, put it on an SD card, put that in the printer, and we help them print it out 19:07 mtompset Does cpanm have the same search path and upgrading uses that installing libraries using cpan does? 19:07 * oleonard needs to find somewhere to print one of these http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:43874 19:07 mtompset (as compared to installing from repository libraries) 19:07 rambutan We will, certainly in the beginning anyway, have some physical control over the printer itself, to keep it safe from younger patrons, but it's not like we'll have it under wraps either. 19:08 rangi morning 19:08 cait morning rangi 19:08 mtompset Greetings, rangi. :) 19:09 mtompset oleonard: You have a busted pen that needs that part? 19:09 oleonard yeah, stupid tiny piece of plastic 19:11 jcamins A friend of mine is probably buying a 3d printer. I'll have him make you one. 19:11 jcamins Remind me. 19:11 rangi we have one in the chch office, we used to have a reprap here in the wellington office too 19:12 oleonard Cool, thanks. Really I should poke around here at the university, someone's sure to have one eh? 19:12 rangi bound to 19:13 janPasi mulla on \<janp[pa].* 19:13 janPasi äh 19:13 janPasi wrong channel 19:14 oleonard Well, there I go: http://www.ohio.edu/research/communications/3dprinter.cfm 19:15 rambutan we have the mendelmax 2, if anybody cares. http://www.makerstoolworks.com Open hardware (like open source software), 19:16 rambutan All right, ya'll got me woked up. 19:16 rambutan So I think it's great that Koha has an open source chat channel where you can actually talk to the coders--the real producers of the software, and especially... 19:17 rambutan some of the original people like Chris. I just think thats amazing. That wouldn't happen with 19:17 rambutan [off]Sirsi, for example 19:18 rangi i doubt any of the original coders are left there 19:18 rangi been replaced with salespeople 19:18 cait rambutan: now you are making him feel old again *hides* 19:19 rangi heh 19:19 rambutan and the same thing is happening with 3d printers--it's still a very new technology, but I can get on freenode - #reprap and talk to sound and Josef Prusa and all the original 19:19 rambutan engineers. 19:19 rambutan someday that will probably go away, although quite happily it hasn't happened to koha yet. 19:21 rangi vik olliver used to work for catalyst 19:21 rangi if you are chatting with him, tell him i say hi :) 19:22 rambutan don't know him by that nick 19:23 rangi http://reprap.org/wiki/User:VikOlliver 19:25 rambutan "sound" is the nick of an Italian programer that produces http://slic3r.org/ 19:28 rambutan I see Vik Olliver does have a nick on #reprap, but he's not currently logged on. 19:37 mtompset since I have a window 8.1 machine. I'm trying something crazy... installing Koha... let's see what horrible problems I encounter using strawberry perl. :) 19:37 rambutan Josef Prusa - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viz4Ijahddg 19:39 cait brb 19:39 rangi mtompset: why dont you try the bundle just to see if it even works 19:39 rangi it should be strawberry perl 19:40 mtompset the one from pakistan? 19:40 rambutan sound - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA6jmg_zcQo 19:40 rangi yep 19:40 mtompset They didn't give a link to it. 19:40 mtompset I went to the web page, and couldn't find it. 19:40 rangi ah maybe ask for one ;) that would seem like a useful thing to try 19:44 mtompset Okay... doing that. 19:44 mtompset In the mean time. Trying for myself. :) 19:47 paul123 hi 19:47 wahanui hi, paul123 19:47 paul123 i have a question about displaying the call number in Koha 19:47 paul123 more specifically in OPAC 19:48 paul123 I am managing a library that uses a custom call/classification number 19:48 paul123 so I tagged it with the 084a tag 19:48 paul123 however, when I search for a book in OPAC it doesn't display the call number 19:49 paul123 how can I make it show and indicate that a book is available 19:49 * wizzyrea waves 19:50 rangi id tag it at the item level 19:51 paul123 can you tell me how I can do that? 19:51 wizzyrea yeah it sounds like you want to show the call number of the item, not the bib 19:51 rangi 952t 19:51 rangi sorry nope 19:51 rangi 952o 19:52 rangi and then in 952$2 put your classification scheme 19:54 paul123 so you're saying, I should tag my records with 952... at the MARCEdit stage? 19:54 * wizzyrea had never looked at the classification sources page - nifty! 19:55 rangi paul123: 952 is for items, you should already have 952 fields for any biblio records taht you actually have copies of 19:56 rangi things cant be available, if you dont have items attached 19:56 rangi (unless they are electronic of course, but even then its better to make an item for them) 19:57 mtompset strangely... this is going better than I recall last time. 19:58 paul123 hmm, when I created my custom Bibli Framework for Books, I didn't create that tag 19:58 mtompset with the -b -r flags added to koha_perl_deps.pl, and strawberry perl having cpanm installed by default. All is going well so far. 19:58 cait paul_p: hm be careful with creating your own, advice is to base on default and only hide fields you don't need 19:59 cait because there are some fields koha needs 19:59 cait oh 19:59 cait paul123: 19:59 cait too many pauls :) 19:59 paul123 hehe 20:02 paul123 hmm, I was tired of hiding too many tags just for a simple book, so I created a smaller framework to import them 20:03 paul123 I only need 15 fields 20:04 paul123 so are you saying, I should reimport my records into Koha with the 952 field set? 20:04 cait you should define the fields in the framewrk first 20:04 rangi do you want items? 20:04 cait and also some others 20:05 rangi cos if you want to ever be able to circulate, you need those 20:05 cait and run the marc frameworks test 20:05 paul123 actually, my custom framework has the field 952 defined 20:05 paul123 I just didn't attach any data to it in my records 20:06 paul123 ok, I just ran the Framework Test 20:06 paul123 and got one error 20:06 paul123 item fields ALL items fields MUST : 20:06 paul123 be mapped to the same tag, 20:06 paul123 and they must all be in the 10 (items) tab 20:08 paul123 and this is my custom Framework for Books 20:08 paul123 Tag Lib Repeatable Mandatory 20:08 paul123 20 ISBN Yes No 20:08 paul123 24 BARCODE No Yes 20:08 paul123 84 STS Call Number No Yes 20:08 paul123 100 AUTHOR NAME Yes Yes 20:08 paul123 245 BOOK TITLE Yes Yes 20:08 paul123 250 EDITION No No 20:08 paul123 260 PUBLICATION Yes Yes 20:08 paul123 300 PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION No No 20:08 paul123 377 LANGUAGE No No 20:08 paul123 500 NOTES Yes No 20:09 paul123 520 SYNOPSIS No No 20:09 paul123 541 REGISTERED DATE No No 20:09 paul123 942 ADDED ENTRY ELEMENTS (KOHA) No No 20:09 paul123 952 LOCATION AND ITEM INFORMATION (KOHA) Yes No 20:09 paul123 999 SYSTEM CONTROL NUMBERS(KOHA) Yes No 20:10 wizzyrea yeah you've nuked out your items fields 20:10 wizzyrea I suggest using the default framework for your first go at an import 20:10 wizzyrea see how it works 20:10 wizzyrea then hide, don't delete, fields. 20:11 paul123 with the default framework there are over 300 tags, is there a way to quickly hide the ones that are not relevant? 20:12 cait hm, the only quick way i can think of is using sql 20:12 magnuse paul123: export to a spreadsheat, edit and import back into koha 20:12 cait oooh 20:12 cait right 20:12 wizzyrea that. 20:12 cait that's a lot better 20:12 cait i always forget we have that nice feature :) 20:14 paul123 so when I export the default framework to excel, what do I do to "hide" the un-relevant fields? 20:15 wizzyrea also, it occurs to me that you could start from the fast add framework 20:15 wizzyrea which is much smaller. 20:16 cait paul_p: there is a hidden column you set to a numeric value to hide 20:17 paul123 ah i see it 20:17 paul123 now 20:17 paul123 what value should I set to hide? 20:19 francharb_afk paul123, I would suggest 8 20:20 francharb_afk it hides the tag on the opac and pro interface 20:20 cait hi francharb :) 20:21 francharb hi cait! 20:21 wahanui hi cait! are you safely back in germany now? 20:21 francharb :) 20:21 cait nice to see you! how is canada? 20:21 francharb nice to see you too 20:21 francharb Everything goes fine 20:21 francharb I just started a new job 20:22 francharb I work for InLibro now 20:22 paul123 ah great 20:22 paul123 thanks for the tip! 20:22 paul123 :-) 20:22 francharb I will work with koha a little bit longer! :) 20:22 francharb you´re welcome paul123 20:23 cait francharb: awesome news! how is that? 20:23 cait oh 20:23 cait i should start reading from the top :) 20:23 cait glad to have you back1 20:23 cait ! 20:23 rangi francharb: wow how cool!! 20:23 francharb thanks! 20:23 francharb It´s pretty cool yep 20:24 francharb Today is my first day 20:24 francharb setting up my machine, etc 20:24 francharb getting used to qwerty keyboard as well 20:24 francharb hehe 20:24 paul123 I have one more question 20:25 rangi francharb: i imagine that will take a while :) 20:25 paul123 when I am preparing data with MARCEdit for import, should I tag the call number field with 952? 20:25 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1513: STILL UNSTABLE in 2 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1513/ 20:25 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 8854: fix some invoice search filters 20:25 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 11269: fix incorrect use of MARC::Field->subfield() 20:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8854 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , invoice filters don't all work 20:25 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11269 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Latest MARC::Record makes visible some wrong usage of field->subfield in C4::Search 20:26 jenkins_koha Starting build #1514 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1511 4 days 0 hr ago) 20:27 cait francharb: workign from home or at inlibro? :) 20:28 oleonard Got a (non-Koha) git problem. I'm trying create a new remote repo to push to, following these directions: http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-on-the-Server-Setting-Up-the-Server 20:29 oleonard After the "push" step, I don't end up with anything on the remote server 20:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #124: SUCCESS in 2 hr 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/124/ 20:32 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430 - status filter not working in serial claims when translated 20:32 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10430: arrived and stopped status are not possible in serial claim 20:32 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10624: add 'status' option switch for the packages init script 20:32 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Bug 10689: add regression test 20:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10430 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , status filter not working in serial claims when translated 20:32 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10689: make public note appear in subscriptions search 20:32 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10689: make subscription public note appear when making a new order from a subscription 20:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Stable , koha-common.init should implement the 'status' option switch 20:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10689 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , public note does not appear in subscriptions search 20:33 rangi oleonard: do you get any error message? 20:35 oleonard No, the output looked like it was successful in fact 20:35 francharb rangi, especially with a US keyboard with no accent... kind of hard to write french properly. :) 20:35 francharb and cait, I work at inlibro office 20:36 rangi oleonard: hmm been a really long time since i ever did that, i usually create the remote end, then clone from that 20:36 rangi cant think of anything :( 20:37 cait francharb: cool :) 20:37 oleonard Thanks rangi I'll keep tinkering 20:37 magnuse have fun #koha! 20:38 rangi cya magnuse 20:38 * cait gets out the cookie jar to celebrate francharb's new job 20:39 francharb hehe thank you!!!!! 20:40 paul123 sorry to keep bugging, but can someone help me with this question: do i have to tag my book records with the 952 field when parsing in MARCEdit? 20:43 cait when you want to import items, then yes 20:44 paul123 so I should tag the call number with the 952$o tag right? 20:46 mtompset what does: $foo = $bar = '1'; mean? 20:47 rangi same as 20:47 rangi $bar = 1; 20:47 rangi $foo = $bar; 20:48 cait paul123: you will need: o, a and b = branchcode, y, 2 20:48 cait at least i would recommend those 20:48 cait and a and b are kind of mandatory to be set to a valid branchcode 20:56 paul123 ok, thank you, cait! 20:56 paul123 have a good night all, thank you for your help 20:56 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), paul123. :) 20:57 mtompset And there is the headache. :) 20:57 mtompset YAML::Syck 20:57 mtompset Number::Format 20:58 mtompset and a couple others. 20:58 mtompset i'm surprised it isn't as bad as I remembered. I guess the MARC::blah stuff cpanm'd nicely. 21:09 rambutan I should do better at keeping my resume up to date. Somebody send me a few bullet points I can use. 21:13 bag *makes great coffee 21:13 bag :P 21:14 rambutan hey, forgot that, it's going in 21:14 eythian hi 21:14 wahanui hola, eythian 21:20 cait khall: around? 21:21 bag cait I think he just stepped out 21:25 khall what's up cait? 21:25 khall @later tell wizzyrea nope! 21:25 huginn khall: The operation succeeded. 21:25 * wizzyrea forgot her question (lol) 21:26 cait heh 21:26 cait hi khall :) 21:26 wizzyrea hi khall :) 21:26 cait was just looking for a one of my qaa... 21:26 cait to look at 10605 as i signed it off 21:26 cait ... and can't qa now :) 21:27 wizzyrea i found it - cool will file a bug for that 21:27 mtompset http://youtu.be/H3r9bOkYW9s (history of english) 21:27 khall wizzyrea: cool beans ; ) 21:27 bag hey cait I have a moment I can look at it :) 21:27 cait awesome thx bag :) 21:27 khall @bag++ 21:27 huginn khall: I've exhausted my database of quotes 21:27 cait so now i can nag khall about his accounts rewrite :) have seen the constant updating, what kind of state is it in currently? :) 21:27 cait @quote random 21:27 huginn cait: Quote #125: "<oleonard> gmcharlt: Or I could fill the tub with milk and cereal and lock them in the bathroom." (added by gmcharlt at 01:14 PM, April 06, 2011) 21:28 cait lol? 21:28 khall cait: it's "so close" to being ready 21:28 wizzyrea (children, presumably) 21:28 oleonard Why have I still not tried that?! 21:28 wizzyrea :D 21:28 cait wizzyrea: my first thought was cats, but you are probably right :) 21:28 * oleonard is off to do so 21:28 cait hehe 21:28 wizzyrea gl 21:28 cait bye oleonard :) 21:28 bag later oleonard 21:28 cait hah! was fast enough 21:28 bag too slow :( 21:28 cait next time :) 21:29 khall I need to deal with the overdues with fines report, I won't remove it altogether, I'll just cut out the parts that are broken. 21:29 cait khall: i looked at it today 21:29 cait we _are_ using it, but we could replace with a report 21:29 cait also a lmit on the other report for people with fines would probably work 21:29 khall excellent! 21:29 khall ok, I can take that into account as well then! 21:30 cait i think there used to be a feature 21:30 wizzyrea khall - while you're here - we have libraries that use it too, but it's decently rare. 21:30 cait where you could actually send people emails from that report 21:30 cait but it's been broken forever 21:30 khall cait: that explains a lot, thanks much for the info 21:30 wizzyrea theoretically you could do that from a regular report, with a mailto link. 21:30 cait bug 4490 21:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4490 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nahuel.angelinetti, CLOSED INVALID, if xslt is on, koha warn every notice 21:30 cait um 21:30 cait no, not that one 21:31 cait bug 4990 21:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4990 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , reintegrate overdues email in overdue list 21:31 cait me and numbers... 21:31 khall wow, it hasn't worked for a long time then 21:31 cait wizzyrea: it would also create the mail text for you- but i think it wouldn't work with utf-8 - i have looked into doing that with mailto links 21:31 cait in reports 21:31 cait you can actually set a subject and things like that 21:32 khall the last big rock for the accounts rewrite is of course, porting the old accounts data to the new system 21:32 cait hm maybe it would and just ddn't get it working from hte reports page 21:32 khall cait: so you looked at it? what do you think so far? 21:32 cait yeah, that's the problematic thing 21:32 cait ah not at yours - the mail functionality 21:32 khall ah, I see 21:34 cait not yet :) 21:35 khall no worries, but if you are bored, it is almost fully functional, except you won't see any existing fines because I haven't written that part of the db update yet 21:36 cait hm i can't remember how bored feels, buti will make time - probably waiting for the update bits tho 21:36 khall yeah, might as well wait for it to be totally done. I know what you mean ; ) 21:37 cait ah now oleonard is gone.. 21:46 cait hm 21:46 cait grammar question: This attribute will be only applied to the patron's category "Erwachsener" 21:46 cait do we need the ' here? 21:47 cait hm or patrons of patron category '' 21:47 cait ? 21:50 wizzyrea This attribute will only apply to the borrower category "category" 21:52 cait it's from batch modification 21:52 cait so i think will only be applied would make sense 21:53 cait it tells you that it will onl ychange patrons of that category, because the attribute has been limited to that category in configuration 21:53 cait bug 11245 21:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11245 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Signed Off , typo in modborrowers.tt javascript string 22:12 ebegin @wunder montreal quebec 22:12 huginn ebegin: The current temperature in Montreal, Quebec is 0.0°C (5:00 PM EST on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -6.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Rising). 22:13 rambutan snow 22:13 cait cooold 22:13 cait @wunder Konstanz 22:13 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 3.0°C (11:00 PM CET on November 19, 2013). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.72 in 1006 hPa (Rising). 22:13 cait hi ebegin :) 22:13 rambutan no snow 22:13 ebegin Hey cait ! :) 22:13 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 22:13 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on November 20, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). 22:13 ebegin No snow as we type 22:13 wizzyrea definitely no snow. 22:15 ebegin wizzyrea, is there snow during NZ winters ? 22:15 wizzyrea not where we are, too warm. 22:15 ebegin I wish I could say that winter are too warm over here :) 22:16 eythian it snowed in Wellington a few years ago, but it's quite uncommon 22:17 ebegin not snowing here is uncommon ;) 22:17 rangi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpGaIDm0azU 22:18 rangi snow in wellington 22:18 wizzyrea note the barefooted people. 22:18 * ebegin wish he could avoid snow.. have to move in NZ 22:19 eythian it snowed most years where I grew up, so you'd have to pick your location :) 22:20 rangi thats one of my fave little videos 22:20 rambutan @wunder Rakiura National Park 22:20 huginn rambutan: Error: No such location could be found. 22:20 ebegin I could tolerate few hours of snow per year :) 22:21 cait wizzyrea: and t-shirt...brrrr 22:21 rangi this is my other favourite little snapshot of people 22:21 rangi http://vimeo.com/31010288#at=0 22:21 wizzyrea that would have been pretty chilly. 22:21 rambutan Do people live on Auckland Island? 22:21 ebegin at the moment, 0°C is not that cold. We will reach - 30°C in february 22:22 ebegin good night every one ! 22:22 rangi night ebegin 22:22 wizzyrea gnite :) 22:23 eythian rambutan: I don't think so, you might have conservation people there, but I don't think it counts as inhabited. 22:23 rambutan but part of NZ, I assume? 22:23 eythian it'd be cold and not very hospitable I imagine 22:23 eythian yeah 22:23 francharb bye all 22:29 mtompset @later tell WaylonR I think I rebased it properly for you. Please check. 22:29 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded. 22:29 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 22:29 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1514: FIXED in 2 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1514/ 22:39 cait hjg 22:41 bag hjg? 22:41 cait screen froze... ignore last comment :) 22:41 bag heh 22:41 bag too late sorry 22:44 eythian hjg eh 22:44 eythian I'm not convinced. 22:49 cait i should stop qa'ing 22:49 cait 2:5 (passed/failed) now 22:51 cait morning dcook 22:52 dcook evening cait :) 22:58 bag heya dcook - good day to you 22:59 bag cait that's cause I've been grabbing the small ones to free up your time :) 22:59 bag heh 22:59 cait i still feel mean :) 22:59 cait nightall :) 22:59 dcook Howdy, bag. Good afternoon :) 22:59 dcook Night, cait :) 22:59 * dcook thinks he has encompassed most times of day now.. 23:01 bag almost dcook almost