Time Nick Message 23:54 cait thx :) 23:54 cait hehe 23:53 * wizzyrea gladly pays. 23:53 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, wizzyrea 23:53 wizzyrea awesome. 23:53 wizzyrea Herbst. 23:53 wizzyrea I like your season words. 23:50 cait not sure how this can be tested without a german os? 23:50 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11264 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add German seasons to serials 23:50 cait bug 11264 23:39 cait but that's not so easy to test really hm. 23:39 cait and that auto-detect thing doesn't seem to work 23:39 cait hm yeah 23:37 wizzyrea hm could be. 23:37 cait i tink it gets grumpy when you edit after saving 23:37 cait wizzyrea: i think with selecting de-DE it works, now i am going to leave it empty...keep fingers crossed? 23:33 wizzyrea oh, well yes, that part is not good. 23:33 cait or that there is something else going wrong 23:33 cait no it isn't good, because it means my change does not work :( 23:32 wizzyrea and didn't give you an icky error. 23:32 wizzyrea so it's good that it fell back to en 23:31 wizzyrea well you would, because there are no seasons defined for DE 23:31 cait and i ended up with english seasons 23:31 cait because my system locale is de_DE 23:31 cait what i wonder... it doesn't fall back to my system locale 23:29 cait only for seasons it has nothing so they added it in 23:29 cait nope you read it right, but for month names the module they used offers more i think 23:28 wizzyrea or did I read that wrong 23:28 cait yeah, working on a patch 23:28 cait which isn't nice, but i will start with a new subscription and see if that works better 23:28 wizzyrea theoretically it should only work with FR, because the only locales that are in the code are en and fr 23:28 cait but i thinmk it didn't like me saving and editing 23:28 cait i am trying to make it show german seasons, to test my patch 23:28 cait it will control which month names and seasons you get 23:25 wizzyrea i mean what's it supposed to do 23:25 cait nope 23:25 wizzyrea there's nothing in the help about it yet 23:25 wizzyrea and it is supposed to translate ... what 23:23 cait nope 23:23 wizzyrea did we have locale before? 23:23 cait heya rangi 23:22 rangi bag: you around? 23:22 cait the generated one is enlgish 23:22 cait nope 23:22 wizzyrea hm mine, with nothing in, brand new sub, looks right 23:22 cait i will try to receive one to see if that works 23:22 cait but the prediction pattern is also wrong now 23:21 wizzyrea yea, so that's a display thing 23:21 cait filing a bug 23:21 cait wizzyrea: hm it seems to be, but it doesn't hsow up on editing 23:21 wizzyrea wit is probably my favorite. 23:21 wizzyrea I love belgian witbier. 23:21 cait i will check 23:21 eythian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witbier#Witbier <-- wizzyrea, you'd probably like Belgian witbier 23:20 cait also.... my locale is de_DE - so it doesn't fall back? 23:20 wizzyrea but is it in the db 23:20 cait i picked de-DE on mine, did the prediction pattern test and was happy to see my translations show up, then saved, edited again and locale is empty 23:20 wizzyrea sure 23:20 cait the locale seems not to save :( 23:20 cait wizzyrea: can you try something for me? 23:20 wizzyrea you don't have to do anything with the advanced. 23:19 wizzyrea I think, with seasonal 23:19 cait maybe i forgot to refresh the prediction pattern the first time 23:19 cait yep stays the same 23:19 cait emptying out both begin with now and saving, then editing again 23:19 cait let me see 23:18 wizzyrea what happens if you don't put anything 23:18 cait in both 23:18 cait ok, you have to make it a 0 23:17 * wizzyrea goes ahead and tries it 23:17 cait now it suddenly starts with summer? 23:17 cait first time it startd with spring 23:16 cait grr. 23:16 cait oh weird. 23:15 wizzyrea it sounded right... 23:15 * wizzyrea is not the beer scholar that eythian is 23:15 eythian wizzyrea: it totally makes sense 23:14 cait you all are trying to make me go to sleep right? :) 23:14 wizzyrea Belgian Wit? Does that even make sense? 23:14 cait now my second issue is still 2013 and april, like it should be 23:14 * dcook stops being a pain in the ass 23:14 * dcook read that as add a 1 to Belgians with 23:14 cait i had to add a 1 to Begins with 23:14 wizzyrea i am not certain I grok what you are getting at, but I am going to test it 23:14 dcook eythian: The wikipedia article was the one thing I understood ;) 23:14 cait got it 23:14 cait i think i go tit 23:13 wizzyrea ok let me check 23:12 wizzyrea sorry I had stepped away 23:12 * wizzyrea reads 23:12 wahanui help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help. 23:12 cait help? 23:12 * cait feels lost 23:11 eythian dcook: saison is a Belgian-yeast-fermented type of beer. 23:10 * dcook is so lost but beer! 23:10 cait eythian: i am trying to get this right so i can sleep - be nice 23:10 eythian what is going on? 23:10 eythian and now you're talking about them. 23:10 eythian you don't even like beer, cait. 23:10 cait currently it gives me: spring 2013, summer 2014 :( 23:09 cait butnot sure what to give for saison begins with and inner counter 23:09 cait i am trying a new subscription from january to decembe, 1/3 months, subscription length 4 issues 23:08 cait wizzyrea: do you know how i have to enter a saional pattern? 23:05 ibeardslee montieths about to trademark that as well? 22:51 wizzyrea the orangy, coriander-y, and gingery the better :P 22:49 wizzyrea saison actually speaks quite loudly to me - it says "Drink more" 22:49 eythian https://twitter.com/ShayneCurrieNZH/status/402180475596201985/photo/1 22:49 eythian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saison <-- :) 22:48 eythian mm saison 22:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11262 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Don't require hardcoded translations for saisonal numbering pattern to work 22:48 cait eythian: feel free to fix bug 11262 so you can customize that bit ;) 22:48 wizzyrea but autumn for en/NZ 22:48 wizzyrea Fall would be correct for en/US 22:47 eythian autumn is correct where I am :) 22:47 eythian yeah 22:47 wizzyrea lol. 22:47 cait is one british/american? 22:47 cait fall or autumn? 22:47 wizzyrea (they spelled it "Fall") 22:47 cait aah i see, what is better? 22:47 cait let metake a look 22:47 cait heh 22:44 eythian I bet they think christmas time is in winter, too. 22:43 eythian they even misspelt autumn 22:43 eythian that's terribad 22:22 cait hardcoded translations in a .pm file 22:22 cait http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=C4/Serials.pm;hb=73d4ac9bab051a7c12677d427f669c092469f4df#l2688 22:22 * cait sighs 22:21 wizzyrea once they're in. 22:21 wizzyrea yep, and people can edit them if they don't like it. 22:20 cait wizzyrea: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=22989 22:12 dcook ^^ 22:12 cait yeah... so many things we shoudl do :( 22:11 wizzyrea without it it's hard to improve the rules. 22:11 wizzyrea yes. Yes we do. 22:10 eythian kinda need a nice rules api with test cases for this sort of thing. 22:09 wizzyrea and there are a couple of sysprefs that affect the rule behaviour as well - such as whether to use the item's home location or current location for rules 22:08 wizzyrea so if you have all, book, default, midway book default overrides it 22:07 wizzyrea so it gets used. 22:07 wizzyrea midway default default is more specific than all default default 22:07 JDatTeTakere Yes, that's what has happened. All fixed now. Happy testing @cait. 22:06 eythian define limited? 22:06 wizzyrea I think it's that the branch default rule always overrides any limited default rule 22:05 cait and i have to test my patch for the web installer... meh 22:05 cait i better be quiet because probably mixing up things 22:05 cait it's getting late again 22:04 cait h 22:04 cait for the given branc 22:04 cait i would define a branch rule always more specific than an all items rule 22:04 cait maybe interpreting it differently? 22:04 cait i think we say the same 22:03 eythian so you can have a default and then define your exceptions to that. 22:03 eythian cait: the general rule for those sorts of things is that the most specific should take precedence. 22:03 JDatTeTakere I've found some old rules for Foxton and Shannon that said "7 days" - have deleted them and will test again. Thanks Liz :-) 22:02 wizzyrea JDatTeTakere: I'd have to look at your rules - but yes 22:01 cait if you had a patron all itemtypes or all itemtypes all patrons i think that would do it 22:00 JDatTeTakere So there must be a rule for a branch in there somewhere that is stopping the All Libraries one from working? 22:00 cait hmm not sure if it's wrong - branch should overrule all libraries i think? 21:59 wizzyrea it's been that way since... 3.4-ish 21:59 wizzyrea yep 21:59 eythian which is kinda wrong 21:59 wizzyrea if it hits a default rule for a branch, it uses that one before it gets to the more specific default 21:58 wizzyrea because of the way the rules cascade. 21:57 JDatTeTakere I have a conumdrum. We have a Circ rule for All Libraries for Rental Non Fiction. They are set to go out for 14 days but are actually being issued for 7 days. I have just created a new rule, just for Levin, and it's now lending for 14 days. I can go ahead and clone that rule for the other 2 libraries but I'm wondering why the original one wasn't working. 21:56 eythian If you have . after No, you probably should also have one after Vol, as it indicates an abbrev. 21:54 huginn JDatTeTakere: The current temperature in LEVIN, Levin, New Zealand is 21.0°C (10:54 AM NZDT on November 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 21:54 JDatTeTakere @wunder Levin 21:54 cait hm 21:54 wizzyrea it feels more proper to have the period. 21:54 JDatTeTakere Brrrrr...cold in Germany 21:54 cait Volume Number 1', 'Vol {X}, No {Y}', 21:53 cait but 21:53 cait 'No. {X}', 21:53 cait we have 21:53 cait looking a tthe english numberpatterns for serials 21:53 cait wizzyrea: No. or No ? 21:53 wizzyrea 17 is nice. 21:52 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (10:30 AM NZDT on November 18, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). 21:52 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn 21:52 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.8°C (10:50 PM CET on November 17, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). 21:52 cait @wunder Konstanz 21:52 cait :) 21:52 cait wizzyrea: it's kind of cold too 21:52 wizzyrea same here :) 21:52 cait JDatTeTakere: just me :) 21:52 JDatTeTakere Well, I may have over-exaggerated the sunniness a little @wizzyrea There are patches in the cloud where the sun is forcing its way through 21:52 cait wizzyrea: i haven't seen the sun in days.. 21:51 JDatTeTakere Gidday Bob 21:49 wizzyrea it's cloudish wellies for me 21:49 wizzyrea lucky sunny levin :) 21:46 JDatTeTakere Yay...it's Katrin!!! 21:44 cait morning JDatTeTakere :) 21:40 JDatTeTakere Morning Koha Community from sunny Levin 21:28 dpk1 gmcharlt: I have updated patches on both 6435 and 11078 to address QA comments. 21:16 eythian it is certainly a monday :) 21:16 cait happy monday! :) 21:16 cait hi eythian :) 21:16 eythian hi 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10718 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , items with no checkouts report does not work 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10564 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , use OPACURLOpenInNewWindow in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10331 trivial, P5 - low, ---, januszop, Pushed to Stable , Little errors in unimarc_field_4XX.pl (punctuation) 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9531 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10619 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , sco.css missing for CCSR OPAC templates 20:47 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10718: fix items with no checkouts report 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10027 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Fine details not showing when printing a fine 20:47 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10564 - use OPACURLOpenInNewWindow in UNIMARCslim2OPACResults.xsl 20:47 jenkins_koha * Janusz Kaczmarek: Bug 10331 - Little errors in unimarc_field_4XX.pl (punctuation) 20:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7478 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Template/translation problem in catalogue_out.tt 20:47 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9531: Make SIP2 message terminator configurable via SIPconfig.xml 20:47 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 10619 - fix errors in sco.css for the CCSR OPAC templates 20:47 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) improve display of fine details on printed invoice 20:47 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) tidy members/printinvoice.pl 20:47 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: include fine details when printing a fine 20:47 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 7478: fix template translation problem in catalogue_out.tt 20:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #187: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/187/ 20:05 jenkins_koha Starting build #187 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #184 1 mo 6 days ago) 18:20 cait dpk1: maybe leave him a note on the bug or try tomorrow? 18:19 cait dpk1: not many people around during weekends 18:19 * magnuse wanders off 18:13 magnuse i don't know any other nick than mtompset 18:13 dpk1 magnuse: do you know his nick? Sometimes they are not obvious. 18:10 magnuse dpk1: he's not in my list of logged on users... 17:51 dpk1 Is mtompset around? 15:08 magnuse cait++ 15:07 cait i wrote up a summary 15:06 cait that and some others 15:05 magnuse .conf problem? 15:05 cait yeah 15:05 magnuse 2.4.x ? 15:05 cait but i think i solved it 15:05 cait new apache version 15:04 * cait waves at magnuse 15:04 magnuse cait: what's your problem with apache? 15:04 * magnuse waves 12:23 cait updated the laptop and now it's broken... *sigh* 12:23 cait ok... if anyone is around who know stuff about apache... I need some help there 11:11 cait jcamins: you around by chance? 08:49 cait good morning #koha 04:36 bag back to looking at bugs for me then :) 04:36 bag boy kind of boring with no one around 04:16 huginn bag: The operation succeeded. 04:16 bag @later tell druthb - cool rings :) they look awesome 04:09 bag druthb_away: those rings that you were trying out - look really rad 04:08 bag just missed you 04:08 bag heya druthb_away 03:40 druthb o/ 03:27 bag evening