Time  Nick         Message
23:36 cait         enjoy
23:29 eythian      ooh, curry time
23:26 eythian      oh hey, there's a meeting in a few hours, should keep that in mind.
23:22 cait         yeah, could just stay awake until the meeting..
23:22 eythian      cait: why start now, eh?
23:22 cait         eythian++
23:22 gmcharlt     eythian++
23:22 gmcharlt     heh
23:22 cait         :)
23:21 cait         sorry, couldn't resist... I should probably be sleeping.
23:21 cait         bad package, no cookie for you.
23:08 eythian      there's nothing obviously wrong with it, I dunno whey that's happening.
23:06 eythian      still does it. /me overrides.
23:04 * eythian    might just rebuild it from scratch, see what happens
23:04 eythian      it comes out as 1..1
23:04 eythian      there's something fishy about its version numbering
23:04 gmcharlt     eythian: correct
23:03 eythian      gmcharlt: it's MARC::XML 1.0.1 that I'm going to be wanting, right?
22:22 mtompset     Have a good da,y, #koha.
22:12 eythian      jcamins: y'about?
22:00 eythian      hi cait, gmcharlt.
21:59 * cait       waves to eythian and gmcharlt
21:41 gmcharlt     howdy
21:41 eythian      hi
21:32 gmcharlt     yeah, fortunately many of the strings can carry over
21:08 cait         there is a new separate file, but i think bernardo did some magic, you don't have to start from scratch
21:08 cait         For german it does not look too bad (and i haven't translated yet): http://translate.koha-community.org/de/314/
21:08 ebegin       Well, I looked at pootle, but not for bootstrap
21:08 ebegin       nope. not yet :)
21:07 cait         but have you looked at pootle yet?
21:07 cait         i mean you can try it, but i doubt it
21:07 ebegin       s/that/that's
21:07 ebegin       cait, that not funny :(
21:07 cait         but there are files for the bootstrap theme on pootle i think
21:07 cait         ebegin: no
21:06 ebegin       About the bootstrap theme, do you think that copying xx-XX-i-opac-t-prog-v-3006000.po will do the magic ?
21:04 ebegin       hey #koha !
20:24 mtompset     It's a miracle! I'm alive. :P
20:24 cait         ;)
20:24 cait         mtompset: dead don#t talk...
20:23 mtompset     Greetingts, druthb. :)
20:23 * mtompset   continues to play dead. :P
20:17 * druthb     pokes mtompset gently with her pointy stick, to see if he's awake.
20:12 cait         hm?
20:12 * druthb     wields pointy stick, looks at mtompset suspiciously.
20:05 huginn       cait: The operation succeeded.
20:05 cait         @later tell tcohen - could you take a look at 9299?
19:50 mtompset     nothing worse than mixing up live and qa systems. :)
19:50 mtompset     Me too. :)
19:50 Shane-S      remote access is semi scary....I always worry I am on the wrong unit/system
19:49 Shane-S      now I can move onto the firewall :P
19:49 Shane-S      PC's seem fast, though a reboot for the server and my firewall might help
19:49 Shane-S      I guess it did re-boot, I am just remoting in trying to troubleshoot mac's being ungodly slow with the Z35.90 search/imports
19:48 Shane-S      no...I was just doing live web searches...but just did...it says 4 minutes
19:48 mtompset     Or you didn't lose the SSH connections?
19:47 mtompset     and you did an uptime to confirm it didn't reboot?
19:47 mtompset     I found in Ubuntu 'sudo reboot now' doesn't work.
19:47 Shane-S      it even gives me the normal system is shutting down now message and kicks me...odd
19:47 mtompset     I can understand that. :)
19:46 Shane-S      <-- habbit?
19:46 mtompset     why not just 'sudo reboot'?
19:46 Shane-S      yeah
19:46 mtompset     is -r reboot?
19:45 jcamins      Shane-S: no.
19:45 Shane-S      I have SSH'ed in twice and sent that command but my server is staying up
19:45 Shane-S      does Koha have anything that prevents the system from shutting down when issues "sudo shutdown -r now"?
19:34 mtompset     I found that link as a result of researching my reply.
19:33 mtompset     Thanks, cait. I'm just about to split off tcohen's documentation comment into a sub-discussion on the koha-devel mailing list.
19:32 cait         mtompset++
19:32 cait         making much more sense now
19:31 mtompset     I tweaked it again. refresh. :)
19:28 cait         i fell over that yesterday
19:28 cait         yeah, but the centos list is still a bit weird being under koha 3.0 :)
19:27 mtompset     http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_Documentation was seriously lacking updates.
19:27 mtompset     Hmm... there, cleaned up some documentation links.
18:58 huginn       tcohen: The operation succeeded.
18:58 tcohen       @later tell vfernandes could you please ffill a bug on caching timezone calculation?
18:57 tcohen       bye #koha
18:52 mtompset     tcohen: I agree with your reply. :) +1 for hosting it in the repo, so installation documentation is simple and consistent.
18:30 tcohen       can we just use memcached for that?
18:30 tcohen       vfernandes posted that yesterday
18:30 tcohen       gmcharlt: "Time Zone Warnings: Determining the local time zone for a system can be slow. If $ENV{TZ} is not set, it may involve reading a number of files in /etc or elsewhere. If you know that the local time zone won't change while your code is running, and you need to make many objects for the local time zone, it is strongly recommended that you retrieve the local time zone once and cache it"
18:26 reiveune1    bye
17:49 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: fix formatting of sopac section
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17:49 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
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17:49 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
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17:47 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
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17:34 jenkins_koha Nicole C. Engard: Fixed grammar issues with Google translated SOPAC chapter.
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17:31 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9114 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , exported MARC frameworks encoding should be UTF-8
17:31 tcohen       bug 9114
17:31 mtompset     Still creating thread... almost done.
17:22 bag          :)
17:22 bag          hello kf
17:22 kf           morning bag :)
17:21 bag          hello druthb
17:21 druthb       hi, bag!
17:18 wahanui      morning is, like, a state of cat
17:18 bag          morning
17:15 tcohen       which will turn void if we push the new package on the repo
17:14 tcohen       i am concerned on the consecquences
17:14 tcohen       so as rmaint for the stable branch
17:14 tcohen       it will be regenerated by the install scripts on some update scenarios
17:14 tcohen       because if you edit the file manually
17:14 ashimema     I see..
17:13 tcohen       so I proposed a three steps command to properly set the parser in Debian
17:13 ashimema     not too surprising.. how did koha behave.. I've had real issues with using the wrong sax parser at points in he past.
17:13 tcohen       fail
17:13 tcohen       it does actually
17:13 tcohen       of course it failed on packages install
17:13 ashimema     Oh.. whats happened when you did that tcohen?
17:12 tcohen       and noticed something was mandatory for tarball installs on stable, was wrongly set for packages (stable)
17:12 tcohen       the whole subject arised when I ran sax_parser_test.pl on a packages install
17:11 gmcharlt     kf:  there used to be a time where choosing the wrong SAX parser meant that MARC::File::XML couldn't correctly parse MARCXML
17:11 kf           i wonder..i haven't always done it i think
17:11 gmcharlt     KILLING IT WITH FIRE!
17:10 kf           what are the negative side effects if you don't change the settings?
17:10 ashimema     I was wodnering how you'de gotten around it..
17:09 tcohen       good, that's enough explanation for me  :D
17:09 gmcharlt     the latest MARC::File::XML doesn't use SAX at all (unless you force it to) in favor of LibXML
17:09 tcohen       (i.e. doesn't rely on the system's default)
17:08 tcohen       the latest MARC::File::XML chooses itself the best SAX parser available?
17:08 gmcharlt     hmm?
17:08 tcohen       can you clarify somth gmcharlt?
17:07 ashimema     :)
17:07 gmcharlt     the section entitled "Here's why we really meant it when we bumped up the required version of MARC::File::XML"
17:06 tcohen       we can still mention that somewhere
17:06 ashimema     yeah.. your right.. in which case killing off the sax parser mentioning sounds fine to me.
17:05 tcohen       ashimema: if we bump the minimum required version it will arise anyway
17:05 wahanui      I know. That's why I said it.
17:05 ashimema     very true.
17:04 gmcharlt     that could be followed up by bumping up the minimum required version of M::F::XML
17:04 ashimema     I do however agree with adding it to the repos and lessening it's docs.
17:04 ashimema     I don't think removing references is a good idea.. not everyone uses the packages and tracking down the sax issue is a nightmare untill you see mention of it somewhere.
16:56 tcohen       mtompset, gmcharlt: I think we should just push the newest version of MARC::File::XML into our repo and forget about all this. And for tarball installs, just remove references to setting the SAX Parser
16:55 tcohen       is anyone familiar with ODS files handling in Koha?
16:45 kf           bgkriegel++ tcohen++
16:44 kf           yep :)
16:44 tcohen       kf, did you get bgkriegel's email on translate.k-c.org?
16:37 kf           hm.
16:37 kf           This              is a beta site. It is a work in progress. So expect a few bumps, dead              ends, omissions, and distortions (especially if you are not using              Internet Explorer).
16:37 jcamins      eythian would be able to tell you the most important resource.
16:37 kf           ... do your research librarian!
16:36 jcamins      Wait, no, that's a US site.
16:36 kf           hmpf.
16:36 jcamins      kf: http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/ <-- most important resource for Germans doing library data migration.
16:35 kf           not easy hm.
16:31 kf           i think they have programmers, but are struggling with the data mapping
16:29 gmcharlt     some of the migration tools Git repos that folks have published would be another good resource
16:28 kf           i have scheam and commented kohastructure.sql so far
16:28 kf           hm what sources can we recommend to someone trying to do a data migration?
16:25 ashimema     haha.. yup
16:25 gmcharlt     *falls
16:25 gmcharlt     ashimema: just make sure your face *away* from the keyboard and not on it ;)
16:25 ashimema     yup.. Guy Fawkes
16:25 ashimema     2am is possibly pushing it though.. so will send my appologies incase i fall asleep at the keyboard.
16:24 gmcharlt     Guy Fawkes, right?
16:24 jcamins      Fireworks?
16:24 ashimema     Hmm.. I'm gonna see if I can manage to stay awake tonight.. gonna be fireworks untill late anyways..
16:24 ashimema     I have a feeling there may be a few other such modules in the repos.. though don't quote me on it
16:23 ashimema     then providing your using packages it 'just works'
16:23 gmcharlt     yeah, I think that's been suggested, though I'm not sure if there's any awkwardness about putting a package up there purely as a backport
16:22 ashimema     better still, I'm sure robin would oblige to have is in the koha repos..
16:22 gmcharlt     ashimema: yep, that works too
16:22 ashimema     gmcharlt: or even 'sudo cpanm...' ;)
16:20 mtompset     *cringe* I'm starting a thread now.
16:20 gmcharlt     in any event, +1 to discussing this on koha-devel
16:19 gmcharlt     mtompset: no, it would be 'sudo cpan MARC::File::XML'; not ideal, but better than wget+dpkg
16:18 mtompset     but a wget and dpkg -i is kind of ugly in installation instructions.
16:18 mtompset     And gmcharlt, ubuntu 12.04 doesn't have the latest MARC::File::XML in it's default repos, but you can grab the Saucy one and it works fine.
16:17 mtompset     Well, since "no, it's 2am in Europe" "will the people who need to discuss it be present?" kind of makes the koha-devel discussion idea better.
16:15 kf           and the action item can be that it should go on the list - but that often is quite open ended... if you don't set a deadline or something
16:15 kf           i understand why it was puton the agenda
16:13 mtompset     so, then perhaps we should take it off the agenda, and discuss on koha-devel?
16:09 gmcharlt     followed by "it will become moot if we require a recent enough version of MARC::File::XML"
16:09 jcamins      I won't be attending the meeting, so I'm not going to object so strenuously as to demand it be taken off the agenda, I just can't imagine any progress being made on answering the question at a general IRC meeting.
16:08 jcamins      The answer to those questions is "not really, no" and "no, it's 2am in Europe."
16:08 tcohen       just as when gmcharlt explained what the patch acceptance would be for 3.14, I thought we could make a desicion on what to do about that
16:07 jcamins      Will the people who need to discuss it be present?
16:07 jcamins      kf: yes, but is there an action that can come out of that agenda item?
16:07 kf           jcamins:  we don't have technical meetings ;)
16:06 jcamins      Yeah, a much better approach.
16:05 tcohen       maybe a koha-devel thread is a better approach. The thing is to make it clear whether we need to set the sax parser or not
16:04 jcamins      Indeed, what does that even mean?
16:03 jcamins      Why on earth is something that technical on the agenda for an IRC meeting?
16:02 mtompset     It would seem that I won't be here for the meeting, even though I'd really like to be involved in the discussion related to "Roundtable on SAX parser settings".
16:01 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
15:52 rambutan     ok, that's a good solid candidate, tnx
15:52 kf           rambutan: i think some use nagios, we do too, but not sure if there is any recommendation. probably not really related to koha
15:52 huginn       rambutan: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
15:51 rambutan     @monitors = (argus,cacti,ganglia,monit,munin,nagios,observium,zabbix,zenos)
15:51 rambutan     are there any recommendations for server monitoring software for a Koha server
15:40 huginn       druthb: Quote #227: "wizzyrea: lol, you should have searched for paroxysms" (added by druthb at 12:40 AM, December 28, 2012)
15:40 druthb       @quote random
15:32 gmcharlt     oops
15:30 ashkar       I wish to know the details of data back up and restoration on koha 3.10
15:30 ashkar       hai..... all
15:18 tcohen       fixed :-D
15:08 tcohen       how does chr know the context is UTF-8?
15:07 tcohen       what does 'chr' do? Do I need to run away in fear?
15:05 jcamins      Wait, no, I meant Windows-1251 FOR LIFE!
15:05 tcohen       heh
15:05 jcamins      Windows-1252 FOR LIFE!
15:05 tcohen       hi jcamins
15:05 jcamins      Much worse.
15:05 jcamins      Could be worse.
15:03 kf           ew.
15:02 tcohen       ISO-8859
15:01 tcohen       the exported file is...
15:01 tcohen       damn
15:00 tcohen       kf: currently testing a possible solution
15:00 kf           i thought there was a bug once about it not exporting correctly as utf-8
15:00 kf           tcohen: sounds like.... ENCODING problems
14:44 tcohen       export framework using CSV format, then import: breaks non ASCII strings...
14:44 tcohen       ouch
14:41 gmcharlt     oleonard: groovy -- my ongoing obfuscation effort has succeeded!
14:31 tcohen       trivial patch
14:29 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10905 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Author tracings incorrect when UseAuthoritiesForTracings is turned on
14:29 tcohen       bug 10905
14:25 kf           we encouraged people to attend them :)
14:25 kf           probably installing an irc client and testing? for the meeting?
14:25 kf           i think they were at kohacon
14:19 oleonard     Was someone trying for their "logged into IRC once" merit badge or something?
14:18 kf           that was a quote from the wizard of oz,... right?
14:18 kf           heh
14:17 BMetcalf     Bye
14:16 BMetcalf     Test message only. Pay no attention to the librarian behind the curtain.
14:12 tcohen       texan_qa++
14:08 druthb       :P
14:04 kf           yeah those texans... ;)
14:04 druthb       yeah, at least one of the QA vols is pretty flaky.  Can't depend on her for anything.  Texans.  Hmpf.
14:04 oleonard     Reporters have uncovered no scandals in gmcharlt's past which would disqualify him from a second term
14:03 kf           well, qa would be even better with more people of course... :)
14:03 kf           we found the right amount of volunteers....
14:00 gmcharlt     yeah, no objections have expressed to anyone thus far
13:59 oleonard     Not that there is really anything to vote on since we will accept all volunteers
13:58 druthb       o/
13:58 kf           i am not a fan of this time in general, but ...
13:57 oleonard     That is an awful time to hold a voting meeting.
13:56 kf           *confused*
13:56 oleonard     So never mind :)
13:55 kf           oh 3 am
13:55 kf           i just really want to get up on the right day if possible :)
13:55 kf           or tomorrow night?
13:55 kf           so the koha meeting is tonight at 2 am?
13:55 kf           hi oleonard :)
13:44 tcohen       hi oleonard
13:38 oleonard     Hi #koha
13:35 gmcharlt     hi kf
13:34 kf           hi gmcharlt :)
13:34 huginn       gmcharlt: Quote #211: "<paul_p> mtate a bug in C4/Search ? That's unbelievable !" (added by slef at 12:35 PM, July 17, 2012)
13:34 gmcharlt     @quote random
13:15 samueld      hi everybody
13:10 kf           all busy
13:10 kf           yep
13:10 tcohen       hi kf, its silent here today
13:10 kf           hi tcohen
12:43 tcohen       morning
11:31 kivilahtio   kf: so true, we have some features not Evergreen could facilitate, I think
11:30 kf           i think it always dependso n how your consortia is organized - some are more independent than others
11:30 kivilahtio   way cool!
11:29 kivilahtio   kf: Luckily the UseIndependentBranches give the core functionality for a lot of consortial stuff, pretty much you can extend it to UseIndependentBranches with TrasnferLimits to make a consortial Koha
11:29 kivilahtio   kf: ok, thanks you
11:23 kf           and having the items of the home library on a different tab... things like that, but all 3.12
11:22 kf           hm and there is highlight my library something in the prefs... but that is 3.12 i think
11:22 kf           and there are lots of open bugs/devs in that area, maybe talk to khall
11:22 kf           maybe people were referring to that
11:22 kf           there were some improvements for independent branches
11:21 kivilahtio   kf: np
11:21 kf           sorry, not time to search right now - it's really busy.
11:20 kf           i already deleted the maisl here
11:20 kivilahtio   :)
11:20 kivilahtio   kf: But get back to work! Don't let me keep you!
11:20 kivilahtio   kf: but it doesn't say much
11:20 kivilahtio   kf: Koha Digest, Vol 97, Issue 5, message 6
11:19 kf           do you have a link to that?
11:19 kf           sorry, i am covered with work
11:18 kivilahtio   kf: I was emailing in the koha-list and someone said something aobut that, but I can't find anything related to those
11:18 kivilahtio   kf: me neither
11:18 kf           with more keywords maybe i can remember
11:18 kf           i am not quite sure to which consortial features you are referring to
11:18 kf           here is some more information: http://koha-community.org/koha-3-14-beta-released/
11:17 kf           there will be release notes for 3.14 - there is also a script for generating automatic ones
11:17 kf           kivilahtio: I certainly don't know everything
11:14 kivilahtio   cant find a trace of those
11:13 kivilahtio   reading these, but from the mailing list I heard that there should be some consortial improvements
11:13 kivilahtio   http://koha-community.org/koha-3-14-release-managers-update-1/
11:13 kivilahtio   Hi kf! Since you seem to know everything, can you tell me where could I see what changes Koha 3.14 brings?
11:07 kf           :)
10:45 * ashimema   waves back
09:30 * kf         waves
07:38 wahanui      what's up, reiveune
07:38 reiveune     hello
06:06 * cait       waves
05:03 mtompset     Well. Have a great day, #koha.
04:23 mtompset     But generally, not so bad.
04:23 mtompset     Had to install something, which I had to figure out, rather than have useful installation documentation. :P
04:23 mtompset     Tinkering with installing piwik.
04:21 mtompset     I agree. But it is easier to crap out than elegantly continue. :)
04:02 eythian      that strikes me as really stupid.
04:02 eythian      arg, so if you give bulkmarcimport.pl a match term, e.g. --match=isbn,020 and it comes across a record without an 020 field, it aborts the whole thing.
03:54 eythian      oh yeah, I've been wanting to do some real integration of that into Koha. That's something we can give people access to, too.
03:53 mtompset     piwik, I think.
03:52 eythian      (most of them not Koha, obviously)
03:52 eythian      probably not this, this is more a system you build rather than something you install. It still in a testing phase, but it's currently processing about 100 log entries per second across I don't know how many servers.
03:50 mtompset     I think my supervisor was asking about me installing some analytics package, but I can't remember what.
03:49 eythian      kabana is the frontend, it's got elastic search as the backend.
03:48 eythian      but you'll see the amount of red in the histogram, I want to get that down to virtually nothing, unless something actually does break.
03:48 mtompset     What is this called?
03:48 eythian      if you click on anything, it changes the filter to just show things relating to what you clicked on, which is quite handy.
03:47 eythian      so if one error starts happening a lot, it'll move its way to the top
03:47 mtompset     Ooo! I like the "top errors" section.
03:47 eythian      it's taking all our server logs and doing realtime reports of the stuff in them to my browser.
03:47 mtompset     what is it?!
03:45 eythian      it does more, and I have it currently filtering a database explosion that occurred overnight, but that's an easy-to-censor subset.
03:44 eythian      http://ubuntuone.com/2pr7mZNPOGou5um3i8l4WI <-- mtompset, this is my new toy for that sort of thing.
03:40 mtompset     Okay, more things to follow. :)
03:38 mtompset     it fits the context of warnings that go unnoticed until you read error logs.
03:38 eythian      no, they're things in general :)
03:37 papa         those are not auth
03:37 eythian      all of these cause annoying warnings
03:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11196 major, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , SearchEngine pref not in sysprefs.sql
03:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11184 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Fix wrong attribute type cloning
03:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11183 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Warnings in opac
03:37 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11182 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Warnings in circulation
03:37 eythian      bug 11182 bug 11183 bug 11184 bug 11196
03:37 mtompset     tcohen, myself, and papa have patched together something which I think would keep Auth.pm nice and quite when things work.
03:36 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11077 trivial, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Correct silent warnings in C4/Auth.pm
03:36 eythian      bug 11077
03:35 mtompset     Forgive me for bug pimping: 11077. :)
03:35 eythian      yeah, I've been on a bit of a thing about that recently too
03:34 mtompset     but when a real problem comes, they get in the way.
03:34 mtompset     Okay, but the idea is that the warnings are generally ignored, because everything worked as expected.
03:33 eythian      if it's logged, it's not very silent...
03:33 mtompset     I wish for no silent warnings in logs. :)
03:33 mtompset     Wow... that's a long time ago. I'll stick with just the email I sent.
03:32 huginn       mtompset: waylon was last seen in #koha 1 year, 5 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 57 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <Waylon> will do.
03:32 mtompset     @seen waylon
03:28 joels68      I'm still trudging thru the wish lists from KohaCon.
03:24 eythian      "waylon" iirc
03:23 mtompset     Waylon Robertson has come here before, right? Can't remember his nick though.
03:20 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1497: SUCCESS in 1 hr 59 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1497/
02:58 mtompset     DOH! More caffeine it is.
02:57 mtompset     PSC?
02:57 mtompset     I usually only want sinigang when I have a bad cold. :)
02:56 rambuten     mtompset: I had the strongest urge for pork sinigang today
02:54 PSC          If you live in Darwin, it's even closer...The only downside is you live in Darwin
02:53 PSC          :P Australia's mum says we're cool
02:53 eythian      ~12 hours to Singapore
02:53 eythian      SE Asia is a decent flight away, but I've done worse.
02:53 rangi        we try not to talk about that PSC :)
02:53 rambuten     I was thinking close to Thailand
02:52 PSC          Plus you're close to Australia - so there's that ;)
02:52 rambuten     ah, well, no TB!
02:52 eythian      actually, we're not terribly strict compared to some places.
02:51 eythian      can't have TB.
02:51 rambuten     rangi: are there notable immigration restrictions for US citizens?
02:39 mtompset     down SIDE... arg... need more caffeine to make the next couple of hours.
02:37 mtompset     Most countries have havens of beauty in them.
02:37 mtompset     Let's rephrase that to intelligible... Weather and other things like it generally are the only down some of many countries.
02:37 mtompset     I think weather is and other things like that, many countries have havens of beauty. :)
02:36 mtompset     So, then except for that, I think I would agree. :)
02:35 rangi        earthquakes are the main thing
02:35 eythian      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9363949/Tornado-thunderstorm-warning-for-North
02:34 mtompset     Hmmm... Are there any typhoons, flooding, hurricanes, tsunamis, or other bizarre and potentially dangerous weather?
02:32 rangi        http://content.bookyourgolf.net/Images/Region/1/229-849.jpg  <-- like that
02:31 mtompset     Well, that would depend on what you are expecting to find, ibeardslee. We've seen scenic beauty, but what about someone who wants a concrete jungle?
02:27 mtompset     Not quite the same as librarians, but I was hoping there was something like this for librarians. http://youtu.be/lOfZLb33uCg (Amish Paradise)
02:27 ibeardslee   rangi: But once you get to NZ, there really is no reason to go anywhere else.
02:00 joels68      :)
02:00 joels68      Seems to be a paradise full of librarians.
02:00 rangi        just the flight to get to and from really :-)
01:59 joels68      Wow. Are there any downsides at all to living in NZ?
01:58 rangi        http://www.zoomin.co.nz/map/nz/wellington/owhiro+bay/  see bottom right, severn street, thats where i live
01:56 rangi        closish, up the hill about 5-10 mins walk to the beach
01:56 joels68      rangi You've got seaside digs?
01:53 rangi        https://twitter.com/Nikki_Macdonald/status/397520865295757312/photo/1 thats about 80m from my house
01:21 jenkins_koha Starting build #1497 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:49 eythian      np
00:48 mtompset     eythian++ # thanks for the pointers.
00:46 eythian      that'll do it
00:45 mtompset     Hmm... koha-list --noemail says our instance... That would be part of the problem. :)
00:43 eythian      also, you have email enabled?
00:43 eythian      yeah, you need to set those
00:42 mtompset     You have to set overdue notice/status triggers?
00:41 mtompset     So, the fact that our system isn't sending any is a configuration issue then?
00:40 mtompset     Ah okay. There it is.
00:37 eythian      yes
00:37 eythian      koha-foreach --enabled --email /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/overdue_notices.pl -t
00:37 mtompset     What's that job called? is it included by default in the packages?
00:35 eythian      yes, otherwise they won't get sent
00:35 mtompset     Greetings, Is there a cronjob that needs to be set up for overdue notices?
00:30 mtompset     Greetings, #koha.
00:05 PSC          Merci Beaucoup (just for rambutan) :)
00:04 jcamins      Of course!
00:04 PSC          Thanks @jcamins - ok to borrow?
00:03 jcamins      PSC: MARC21.
00:02 rambutan     MARC sounds like a french name to me. We'd spell it Mark.
00:01 PSC          Assuming quote above is re; MARC? Anyone mind if I borrow quote to promote discussion on Hyperlink MOOC?