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23:48 huginn          joels68: The current temperature in Worthington, Minnesota is 7.0°C (6:35 PM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.81 in 1009 hPa.
23:48 joels68         @wunder Worthington MN
23:44 joels68         Hello.
23:44 joels68         NAMES [#koha]
23:38 pianohacker     dammit wahanui
23:38 pianohacker     self check?
23:38 pianohacker     self check
23:38 pianohacker     I need something like
23:37 pianohacker     saml--
23:35 drnoe           right on. just let me know. I will work on getting ready tonight and liekly load it in the morning.
23:34 Jwellner        Getting ready to do the extraction
23:32 drnoe           pretty good. just updating little things whilst waiting on the data. you?
23:31 Jwellner        How are you doing David?
23:31 Jwellner        Geez... that's what I get for being rusty with my IRC...
23:31 drnoe           howdy jwellner
23:30 huginn          Jwellner: I suck
23:30 Jwellner        @drnoe hi
23:27 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta
23:27 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta
23:27 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #1496: SUCCESS in 1 hr 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1496/
22:25 ChilhoweeLibrar I have a few questions and was wondering if someone can answer them for me
22:23 nengard         :)
22:20 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta
22:20 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta
22:20 jenkins_koha    Project master_maria build #209: SUCCESS in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/209/
22:02 rambutan        you know, the koc sql sometimes creates a lock file that can screw things up, I haven't quite figured out what does it when uploading transactions
21:36 jenkins_koha    Starting build #1496 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
21:32 jenkins_koha    Starting build #209 for job master_maria (previous build: FIXED)
21:30 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: updated release notes for 3.14.0 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1d4af3d73bacd552fa7411e29b4963c9350ea20> / DBRev 3.13.00.042: mark Koha 3.14 beta <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0cb4f09eb25f8636e77e4ea0cfa5c96ed185821e>
21:17 jcamins         If you copy the indexedDB directory out, you can always put it back in.
21:16 jcamins         rambutan: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5358704/where-are-firefox-indexeddb-files-stored
21:15 rambutan        the issue we're addressing is that a nervous bookmobile person is ready to upload records, and hasn't kept a separate manual record as usual, and wants to backup the transaction record on the computer before uploading
21:13 jcamins         Heh.
21:13 gmcharlt        Jeeves accent optional
21:13 gmcharlt        ;)
21:13 gmcharlt        "You appear to have been very dilatory about uploading your offline circulation transaction.  Are you /quite/ sure about this?"
21:12 gmcharlt        a minor enhancement idea occurs
21:12 jcamins         So if you don't upload transactions, they will hang around for months, and then confuse you terribly when you try to test other things and get a handful of transactions from six months ago.
21:11 rambutan        hummm, 'k
21:11 jcamins         It is stored in the browser's indexeddb, and transactions are kept until they've been uploaded.
21:11 rambutan        and when is it deleted, at the next download of records?
21:10 rambutan        the FF offline circ module--where does the transaction file live, or what is the name of it?
21:10 jcamins         o/
21:09 huginn          rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <jcamins> magnuse: you have an IRC channel that takes instructions like that?
21:09 rambutan        @seen jcamins
19:02 huginn          mtompset: The operation succeeded.
19:02 mtompset        @later tell tcohen I posted some of my test results for bug 10003.
18:38 magnuse         jcamins: nah, i was aming for my terminal, where i just unzipped pizza_ingredients-2.0.zip
18:30 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9943 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Pay fines page "Pay selected" button give invalid amount when nothing is selected
18:30 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10619 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , sco.css missing for CCSR OPAC templates
18:30 jenkins_koha    * Owen Leonard: Bug 9943: activate "Pay selected" button only when at least one fine is selected
18:30 jenkins_koha    * Owen Leonard: Bug 10619 - fix errors in sco.css for the CCSR OPAC templates
18:30 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10027 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Fine details not showing when printing a fine
18:30 jenkins_koha    * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) improve display of fine details on printed invoice
18:30 jenkins_koha    * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: (follow-up) tidy members/printinvoice.pl
18:30 jenkins_koha    * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10027: include fine details when printing a fine
18:30 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_3.12.x build #103: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/103/
18:30 jcamins         magnuse: you have an IRC channel that takes instructions like that?
18:30 magnuse         oops, wrong window ;-)
18:30 magnuse         make pizza
17:58 magnuse         ashimema: i think paul_p has done a lot of work on the sandboxen
17:50 jenkins_koha    Starting build #103 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #98 24 days ago)
17:17 gmcharlt        cait-m_: indeed it is -- good enough
17:08 nengard         thanks
17:08 nengard         k
17:07 cait-m_         it shoukd i think
17:07 jcamins         I think it just works in 3.12+.
17:06 nengard         k- pre-bootstrap and yes
17:06 jcamins         You mean on the staff client, right?
17:06 jcamins         nengard: with bootstrap the arrow keys work.
17:06 nengard         but I can't find the old one (if there is one)
17:06 nengard         sounds familiar and I don't want to report a new one
17:06 nengard         hey all - do we have a bug/enhancement about tabbing through pull down menus in Koha?
17:06 cait-m_         its on the agenda i think
16:56 gmcharlt        but I guess by timing and custom, it's either going to have to be the next general meeting, scheduled for 11/6, or a special mid-November meeting
16:52 gmcharlt        it's not clear to me if we set a firm date for elections for 3.16 roles
16:52 ashimema        anyone know whose in charge of their sandbox servers?.. i can see lots of commiters against contrib
16:52 gmcharlt        hmm
16:51 ashimema        maybe they don't set mysql root passwords?
16:51 ashimema        the sandbox code executes the above somehow on biblibres servers I assume.. wondering now if the contrib git is up to date with their stuff.
16:50 talljoy         i would think so
16:49 ashimema        surely you need a mysql username/password somewhere in there..
16:48 ashimema        ever work.
16:48 ashimema        ack.. how would: Run->new( qq|mysql -e "drop database $databasename;create database $databasename;"| );
16:43 jcamins         My initial thought was saving paper as well, then it struck me that if they really wanted to save paper, they wouldn't have printed an index that provided no new information.
16:42 rambutan        ah
16:42 jcamins         Or publish it as an ebook.
16:41 jcamins         rambutan: in that case, don't print a fifty page index that just repeats the order of the bibliography.
16:40 rambutan        trying to save paper costs?
16:39 jcamins         I ask you: what is the point of arranging a bibliography by author main entry, and including a main author index, but not a title index?
16:36 rambutan        there's clearly some collaboration still going on: "DuraSpace news highlights DSpace and Fedora community information."  http://www.dspace.org/duraspace-blog/duraspace-blog.html
16:34 jcamins         talljoy: of course, if all you need is an image viewer, you might be able to just stick an image viewer JS widget on top of Koha.
16:34 rambutan        I thought that at one time DSpace and Fedora were going to merge. This page -> http://www.duraspace.org/web_seminars has some DSpace cf. Fedora webinars at the bottom
16:33 talljoy         good info all.  Thanks!
16:33 talljoy         thansk jcamins
16:32 jcamins         I've heard people swear by Islandora, too, as a front end.
16:31 jcamins         talljoy: it's a front end, yeah.
16:31 rambutan        I also cannot recommend greenstone, although it might have improved in the 4 years since I previously used it
16:30 talljoy         vudl is now fedora is it not jcamins
16:30 druthb          In early incarnations, Fedora was just the object-store framework, and you had to bolt everything onto it.  The Fedora team cleverly realized this put them behind DSpace on the adoption curve, even with DS being so clunky and evil and (at that time) married to QDC format.
16:29 jcamins         Greenstone was just unpleasant.
16:29 talljoy         i need something that will take high res images and be able to zoom in and around.
16:28 jcamins         Less clunky.
16:28 jcamins         Fedora seemed much more promising.
16:28 jcamins         I didn't like DSpace when I tried it out.
16:28 druthb          I worked with DSpace in a prior life.
16:28 talljoy         Vudl ?
16:28 talljoy         Dspace is the other i thought of.
16:28 talljoy         i thought of that ;-)
16:28 rambutan        DSpace
16:28 jcamins         talljoy: presumably rangi would recommend Kete, if that's what you mean.
16:25 talljoy         has anyone used an open source 'digital library' that they can recommend?
16:23 gmcharlt        ;)
16:23 gmcharlt        create database mysql_database_name...
16:23 ashimema        aha.. I'm an idiot.. I left 'mysql_database_name' in the cron instead of replacing it with the actualy database name!
16:21 ashimema        so.. remind me.. whose the master of the sandbox's ?  I'm having issues with setting my system up for it.
15:58 gmcharlt        are there any UNIMARC users around who would be interested in smoke-testing installation of the beta tarball?
15:23 gmcharlt        tcohen: I have not, but for obvious reasons, I'll be interested to hear details
15:13 jcamins         I am so glad I always carry extra socks.
15:08 mtompset        http://idibon.com/the-weirdest-languages/
14:47 mtompset        Sorry. :(
14:46 tcohen          has anyone experienced problems git recent git versions 1.8.x and previously working gitolite setups?
14:37 huginn          druthb: The current temperature in Greenway Plaza, Houston, Texas is 18.9°C (9:37 AM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Rising).
14:37 druthb          @wunder 77098
14:31 huginn          rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 6.1°C (9:31 AM CDT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
14:31 rambutan        @wunder 64507
14:30 rambutan        no?
14:30 gmcharlt        rambutan: you're not helping! ;)
14:30 rambutan        I hope the image of a skinned red pig clears my mind before lunch. I hope also the same for druthb and gmcharlt. Skinned red pig.
14:27 * druthb        sings, "Movin' right along, dubby-dub-dubby-dub…"
14:27 gmcharlt        mtompset++
14:26 ashimema        :)
14:25 tcohen          :-D
14:23 mtompset        http://youtu.be/MMR5JVo21wQ
14:18 gmcharlt        MOVING ON!
14:18 druthb          lulz
14:18 * gmcharlt      blinks
14:17 huginn          gmcharlt: Quote #119: "<wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blainefranger.com/blog/uploaded_images/IMG_6368_nepali_food.jpg" (added by wasabi at 10:22 AM, January 27, 2011)
14:17 gmcharlt        @quote random
14:10 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
14:06 magnuse         ah, i was trying to write the file to a dir i did not have permissions on... (or rather, since i was using koha-shell, the koha_instance user did not have permissions)
13:49 cait-m_         sorry tested ages ago but not using it
13:48 magnuse         i'm getting: print() on closed filehandle $OUTPUT at /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/gather_print_notices.pl line 129.
13:44 magnuse         anyone using gather_print_notices.pl?
13:38 Barrc           which will be a nightmare!
13:37 Barrc           The only way I can think of is adding a SystemPref for all things SIP  (which should be implemented anyway , I think) then passing an extra argument to the various methods indicating SIP or Staff etc....
13:35 cait-m_         sorry client died
13:35 Barrc           cait-m: I agree. However, I can see an argument for having an option. At the moment it is possible for an item to be checked in at, say 13:00 shelved at 13:10 and checked out again, even with a hold on it!
13:34 cait-m_         but check bugzilla there was some discussion about holds handlong a while ago
13:33 cait-m_         i think as a patron it would annoy me to have to return books with holds sep
13:33 Barrc           there is no way, at present, to differentiate between the two.
13:32 Barrc           ashimema: But SIP calls the same routine as a normal checking
13:32 Barrc           If fairness, they do have a point. It was the same for transits too, I had to change the logic their too!
13:32 cait-m_         koha is not their old system
13:32 ashimema        sounds more of a sip issue than a checkin issue
13:32 cait-m_         well
13:31 Barrc           Yeah, the workflow is different in this library, and not how it happened on "...their old system" !!!
13:31 cait-m_         and we have a report to  list the items with holds on the cart
13:31 cait-m_         they show up in holds to pull
13:31 cait-m_         our libraries just go abd pick thrm up
13:30 Barrc           It effectivly makes Holds usless.
13:30 Barrc           Because the returning borrower is putting into a shelving trolloy and the hold notice is never being triggered.
13:29 cait-m_         why do you want to stop it?
13:29 cait-m_         phone typoeing
13:29 Barrc           It makes it difficult to stop the SelfCheck transaction happening, as well, it's already happened!"
13:29 cait-m_         if someone checks in abook its returnef
13:29 Barrc           It's casuing me problems with SIP to be honest. SIP gets a return code back to say the book has been checked in from AddReturn
13:28 Barrc           Well, it's not that it shouldn't check it in, it's just that it might always want to check it in!
13:28 jcamins         Barrc: because if it asked first, the book would still be on the previous patron's record.
13:27 cait-m_         why should it not check ot in?
13:26 Barrc           as opposed to asking first, then checking it it!?
13:26 Barrc           Howd'y. Does anyone have any thoughts on why Koha checks in an item that has a hold on it before asking the staff what to do with it?
13:26 cait-m_         :)
13:21 ashimema        another reason another pair of eyes can only be good ;)
13:21 ashimema        yeah.. a fari few things I think..
13:21 cait-m_         there are some things sandboxrd cant handle yet i think
13:21 ashimema        cheers magnuse
13:20 magnuse         ashimema: look at debian/scripts/koha-upgrade-schema
13:19 ashimema        hmm. the calls to rebuild zebra may also need minor modification.. though I'm not sure.
13:18 ashimema        I'm not exactly sure how packages handle this.
13:18 ashimema        the only piece I can see there being issues with so far for packages is the call to updatedatabase.pl
13:16 cait-m_         :)
13:12 magnuse         cool
13:11 ashimema        yep.. I had a go when they were introduced at last years kohacon.. didn't get especially far.. but I've been given the go ahead to have another go
13:09 magnuse         cait-m_: that is good to hear :-)
13:08 cait-m_         ashimena: trying to  set up your own?
13:08 cait-m_         smells nicer ten rotorua
13:04 ashimema        hmm.. I'm playing with sandboxes.. I wonder if I can get them to work with a package install and koha-gitify
13:00 magnuse         a rotten burg? that does not sound too nice
13:00 cait-m_         might be the closest weather station
12:59 cait-m_         what?
12:59 magnuse         rottenburg?!? ;-)
12:58 ashimema        indeed
12:57 huginn          cait-m_: The current temperature in Rottenburg, Germany is 8.7°C (1:48 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
12:57 cait-m_         @wunder haigerloch
12:51 huginn          tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba Aerodrome, Argentina is 15.0°C (9:00 AM ART on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 97%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
12:51 tcohen          @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:48 magnuse         airport codes work too :-)
12:48 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (1:20 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady).
12:48 magnuse         @wunder boo
12:47 huginn          magnuse: The current temperature in London, United Kingdom is 14.0°C (12:20 PM GMT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling).
12:47 magnuse         @wunder london, uk
12:47 magnuse         ashimema: i guess there are many londons
12:43 tcohen          morning
12:17 ashimema        are there any doc out there for our bots?
12:16 huginn          ashimema: Error: No such location could be found.
12:16 ashimema        @wunder london
12:13 huginn          Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 23.0°C (5:00 PM PKT on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
12:13 Oak             @wunder islamabad
11:58 cait-m_         chilly
11:57 huginn          cait-m_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 7.3°C (12:55 PM CET on November 01, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Falling).
11:57 cait-m_         @wunder konstanz
11:54 cait-m_         hm wonder why the underscore keeps happening
11:53 * magnuse       waves to cait-m_
11:52 * cait-m_       waves
11:22 ashimema        Hmm.. think I need to test that.. maybe it's changed since I last tried it out.
11:19 cait            ok, leaving now - have a nice weekend everyone :)
11:19 cait            which would be the standard
11:19 cait            i mean it doesn't break if you do $w(003)001
11:18 cait            just nothing automatic
11:18 cait            so cataloguing like hat should be oki
11:18 cait            ashimema: i think the linkings should still work if you also use 003
11:17 ashimema        I would also love to see a bug that implements the full spec of linking to 001+003 as an addition to the options we've already got of link on 001 OR link on biblionumber.
11:16 ashimema        though I'm actually in the camp of I'de live to see it based upon sequence number as opposed to actually keep 001 = biblionumber..
11:15 ashimema        yeah.. kinda.
11:12 magnuse         yeah, sadly it seems to have stalled the 001 = biblionumber thing a bit, i think?
11:11 ashimema        wow.. just finished reading the comments on all those bugs.. there's allot going on in the sequential number space.. hadn't realised.
11:06 cait            i just use it as an editor heh
11:06 cait            ah, i don't work with a project
11:05 magnuse         but when i have tried for 10 minutes to create a koha project, without success, i kind of give up on it...
11:05 magnuse         well, it seems to be a bit more advanced than gedit, with projects etc
11:04 cait            with a nice icon
11:04 cait            it's just an editor
10:50 magnuse         ?
10:41 ashimema        snap
10:34 * magnuse       installs geany
10:27 cait            i think the word license will scare lots of people around #koha off
10:26 ashimema        hmm.. not doing much coding though at the moment :(.. a 21 day trial would be a waste right now.
10:25 ashimema        may have to try it out..
10:24 kivilahtio      btw gotta go and pay my Komodo licence for this year, 300€
10:23 kivilahtio      but For Koha! Bam, my productivity has easily tripled
10:23 kivilahtio      I couldn't use those for Evergreen, I tried hard, but the system was just structured in a really difficult way
10:22 kivilahtio      but otherwise pretty good
10:22 kivilahtio      not code hot-swap
10:22 kivilahtio      ashimema: That is INSANELY powerfull, brings lots of java-like debugging features
10:22 ashimema        nice
10:22 ashimema        not tried komodo
10:22 kivilahtio      ashimema: I can emulate CGI-calls and run an active debugger through whole Koha
10:22 ashimema        i tired padre and exlipse+epic
10:21 ashimema        if you're on windows/mac you could use atlasian's sourcetree.. I hear great things about it all the time.
10:21 kivilahtio      ashimema: I am using Komodo IDE 8.5 and it is superb
10:21 magnuse         gedit + command line git for me
10:21 kivilahtio      ashimema: or Komodo IDE
10:21 ashimema        yup.. command line git..
10:21 kivilahtio      ashimema: try Eclipse + EPIC
10:21 ashimema        though i've been thinking of moving to a proper IDE for a while.. never found one for perl i've been happy with.
10:21 cait            okok, you win
10:21 cait            lol
10:20 ashimema        vim ;)
10:20 cait            command line
10:20 kivilahtio      you just use command line git?
10:20 cait            geany - mostly a text editor
10:20 kivilahtio      how about git?
10:20 kivilahtio      how do youo debug Koha and make new devs?
10:20 kivilahtio      btw what IDE do you use for Perl developing
10:20 ashimema        huggin is awesome!
10:20 kivilahtio      huginn++
10:19 magnuse         huginn++
10:19 huginn          cait: The MARC code for the organization whose control number is contained in field 001 (Control Number). []
10:19 cait            @marc 003
10:19 huginn          cait: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). []
10:19 cait            @marc 001
10:19 cait            ashimema: I will show you a trick :)
10:19 magnuse         ashimema: mutual exclusiveness of sysprefs
10:19 cait            ashimema: but your answer was more perfect :)
10:19 kivilahtio      understood
10:18 cait            so when you download records from different catalogs that include 001 they don't overlap
10:18 kivilahtio      :)
10:18 ashimema        haha.. cait beat me to it.
10:18 kivilahtio      who cares?
10:18 kivilahtio      cait: ah
10:18 ashimema        001 - Record Control Number, 003 - Control Number Identifier
10:18 cait            003 defines the source of the 001
10:18 cait            001 + 003 are a pair
10:17 kivilahtio      ashimema: what do you mean with 001 + 003?
10:17 ashimema        magnuse: what was that related to.. I don't follow?
10:15 cait            ashimema: yeah, but sitll good thinking
10:14 magnuse         and there is the "System information" tab under "About Koha"
10:14 ashimema        but at the moment we don't ;)
10:14 ashimema        hmm.. if we're getting picky about linking.. really we should be ensuring uniqueness of 001+003 as apposed to just 001 (for mark21 at least).. and then linking upon that..
10:12 kivilahtio      I think it is a good practice to include them when you introduce new sysprefs
10:12 cait            i do.
10:12 magnuse         i think tcohen was working on some sanity checks for sysprefs
10:12 ashimema        you need an upgrade cait
10:12 kivilahtio      I was supposed to fix it to our data migrationtool :)
10:12 kivilahtio      now I remeber
10:12 kivilahtio      cait: ah yeah that was it
10:12 cait            $t i think
10:12 cait            you need a link text
10:11 kivilahtio      needs to be more data to make the link
10:11 kivilahtio      this doesnt work
10:11 cait            hm, not that I am aware of... but my brain ran out of memory for the bug database
10:11 kivilahtio      our records have only $773, $7 = nn && $w = 9326
10:11 cait            for the mutual exclusiveness?
10:11 kivilahtio      just found a bug related to UseControlNumber
10:11 ashimema        is there a bug for that open yet cait?
10:11 ashimema        we deffo need to put mutual exclusiveness into the syspreffs.
10:10 ashimema        yeah.. they're not really compatible.
10:10 ashimema        haha.. glad you got it working
10:10 cait            and not compatible with each other i think
10:10 ashimema        UseControlNumber and EasyAnalytics are very different sysprefs and seem to be pretty misunderstood.
10:10 kivilahtio      now it works
10:10 kivilahtio      There is a ghost in our Koha system :=
10:10 kivilahtio      lol I thought I set it on?!?
10:09 magnuse         "UseControlNumber [Use/Don't use] record control number ($w subfields) and control number (001) for linking of bibliographic records." not sure if you could/should reuse that
10:09 cait            oyu have to turn on UseControlNumber
10:09 kivilahtio      cait: I always get the search even if $773w is present
10:08 kivilahtio      cait: well it doesnt fall back for me
10:08 kivilahtio      cait: I understand now what you mean with union catalog
10:08 cait            if there is no $w subfield, then it falls back to a search
10:08 kivilahtio      magnuse: really?
10:08 kivilahtio      this is so bad
10:08 cait            kivilahtio: hm, they already fall back if there is no link?
10:08 magnuse         there is a syspref related to that, i think
10:08 kivilahtio      but 001 is not the same as biblionumber
10:07 kivilahtio      actually that was just what I was about to do
10:07 cait            magnuse: i know you are not really mean...
10:07 kivilahtio      I can write the XSLT default templates to have 001 link optionally
10:07 magnuse         cait: go packing!
10:07 cait            please someone send me packing?
10:06 cait            ok
10:06 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11175 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Show the parent records child records (aka. component parts) in the detailed views.
10:06 kivilahtio      bug 11175 already has a ystem preference should the child record data be injected to the xslt transformation source xml
10:06 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9921 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nunyo, In Discussion , Make it possible to force 001 = biblionumber
10:06 magnuse         bug 9921
10:06 ashimema        needs to be syspref driven..
10:06 kivilahtio      cait I understand your point
10:06 cait            i know
10:06 cait            yep
10:06 cait            :)
10:06 cait            just saying we need a flexible solution here
10:06 ashimema        your in a pretty privileged position there cait
10:06 kivilahtio      this is a big issue regarding child record linking
10:06 cait            no it doesn't
10:06 kivilahtio      but hte Koha cataloguing tool doesnt add any 001
10:05 cait            all our records are from a union catalog and they contain the numbers anduse them for linking
10:05 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6113 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, In Discussion , enhancement to keep previous ids
10:05 magnuse         bug 6113
10:05 ashimema        should be a syspref... but I know we'de love it.
10:05 kivilahtio      cait: Wee when you create a new record how is the 001 defined?
10:05 cait            we have wonderful 001 i won't give up for a biblionumber
10:05 cait            kivilahtio: also it can't be forced by default
10:05 * ashimema      goes to find the bug.
10:05 kivilahtio      ashimema: but what real barriers there are for that?
10:04 kivilahtio      ashimema: regarding bibliographic data migration tho
10:04 kivilahtio      bug_6113
10:04 kivilahtio      ashimema: I made that possible in 6113
10:04 kivilahtio      I mean when you try to access the parent record from hte child record, we get no search results
10:04 ashimema        kivilahtio: lol.. at the moment there's no way to do that (force 001 to match biblionumber)
10:03 kivilahtio      also those title, author searches dont work for us
10:03 kivilahtio      001 should be forced to match the biblionumber in DB
10:03 kivilahtio      this is odd
10:02 kivilahtio      it makes a funny zebra query based on everything else than the parents $001
10:02 kivilahtio      there is a issue with the returning link from child record to the parent record
10:02 kivilahtio      62.148.106.91/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=20396
10:01 cait            it is
10:01 petter          :)
10:01 kivilahtio      this is SO big!
10:01 petter          congratulations!
10:01 kivilahtio      had to do some virtual guest restructuring to facilitate that :D
10:01 kivilahtio      records
10:01 kivilahtio      our database jumped from 350 000 to 1 100 000 :)
10:01 kivilahtio      lol I got the child records working! Also found a bug from our child record data migration tool
09:59 petter          me neither
09:58 magnuse         i have no idea what the implications are, though
09:58 magnuse         yeah, that looks really random
09:56 ashimema        by jove
09:55 petter          you'll see ASCII text mostly, and sometimes UTF-8 unicode
09:55 petter          ls | xargs file
09:55 petter          and to
09:55 ashimema        interesting.. never noticed that before.
09:55 petter          just go into a template directory for example
09:54 petter          and a few are utf-8 encoded
09:54 petter          yes most of the files are ASCII actually
09:54 ashimema        petter, magnuse.. likewise.. I'de go with everything should be in utf-8
09:53 magnuse         hiya ashimema
09:53 magnuse         so you see files that are not?
09:53 ashimema        Morning all.
09:53 magnuse         petter: yeah, i'd say everything ought to be utf-8, but then i'm far from being an expert...
09:52 magnuse         lol
09:51 petter          let's kep God out of it
09:51 petter          good morning
09:51 petter          god morning
09:51 cait            ashimema: morning :)
09:50 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates
09:50 petter          bug 6554 i mean
09:50 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6654 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED FIXED, [security] Authentication issues
09:50 petter          bug 6654 really bugs me!
09:50 petter          I don't know Perl, but in other languages like Python & Ruby encoding problems are solved by having UTF-8 everywhere
09:49 ashimema        waking up to poor rancid milk on my shreddies.  This will be a thing of the paste when my new fridge arrives!
09:49 petter          is there a good reason not to have all koha files in UTF-8?
08:55 petter          thanks!
08:52 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters
08:51 cait            bug 11054
08:49 cait            hmm i can find it, but not totally sure it#s related or helpful, so don't be disappointed
08:49 petter          cait: do you know which bug his fix is?
08:47 cait            where it seems part of latin1 was the problem?
08:46 petter          It looks like text sometimes get double encoded
08:46 cait            i think colin fixed another issue some days ago
08:46 petter          including norwegian characters æøå
08:46 petter          It seams particullary to be a problem with the latin1 subset
08:46 petter          yes, it really bugs me too
08:45 cait            we should ask him when he shows up :)
08:45 cait            i think tcohen has some ideas about this one
08:44 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, ketan, Failed QA , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates
08:44 * magnuse       wishes someone would put bug 6554 out of it's misery
08:40 magnuse         morndu!
08:40 petter          heisann!
08:40 magnuse         hiya petter
08:28 cait            good morning petter :)
08:06 petter          good morning koha
07:36 cait            thx
07:34 * magnuse       sends cait some coffee
07:22 * cait          waves tiredly
07:21 magnuse         build fixed! woohoo! \o/
07:20 * magnuse       waves
06:51 * Oak           waves
04:53 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt
04:53 jenkins_koha    Galen Charlton: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test
04:53 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #1495: FIXED in 1 hr 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1495/
04:53 jenkins_koha    Yippie, build fixed!
04:24 mtompset        Have a great day, #koha.
03:40 Dyrcona         Oh well, as my daughter used to say, "Nighttime, bed."
03:40 Dyrcona         should be an "ago" in there somewhere. :)
03:40 Dyrcona         Of course, since I started it again a few hours, duplicity has picked up where it left off and is chugging away a the files.
03:36 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10403 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add ability to set fund/budget on receipt
03:36 jenkins_koha    Galen Charlton: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test
03:36 jenkins_koha    Project master_maria build #208: FIXED in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/208/
03:36 jenkins_koha    Yippie, build fixed!
03:27 Dyrcona         Plus, I could have fun adding support for vcdiff, bsdiff, and other algorithms.
03:25 Dyrcona         It would make for an interesting little project.
03:23 Dyrcona         I think using librsync, openssl or libgcrypt, libssh, or libssh2, I should be able to implement what I want.
03:22 Dyrcona         Granted, these files don't change that often.
03:22 Dyrcona         I'm not sure that really buys me much, plus I'd rather have the incremental features for these files, since 300GB is a lot to send over every time something changes.
03:20 Dyrcona         Well, I don't want to put my personal stuff on the servers owned by the non-profit where I work during the day.
03:20 mtompset        rsync the encypted files to the destination.
03:19 mtompset        unmount the point.
03:19 mtompset        perhaps mount an encrypted FS on the first machine, and instead of tar'ing... rsync to the encrypted FS point.
03:18 mtompset        and then use the secondary point to push the encrypted files to the final destination?
03:18 mtompset        One that gets it to a secondary point and encrypted somehow (such as a mounted encrypted FS)
03:17 mtompset        Could you do an intermediate stop-over?
03:15 Dyrcona         The backup company also strongly encourages their customers to encrypt their files before sending them to the server.
03:14 Dyrcona         yeah. I use plain rsync over ssh when I control the endpoints. In this case, I don't control one.
03:00 mtompset        we rsync over ssh between vm's and the destination has a mounted encrypted directory which we mount to backup and unmount upon completion... very narrow window of data stealing. :)
02:59 mtompset        Me neither, Dyrcona. Just thinking of a hypothetical way of doing it, not necessarily the best way.
02:59 jenkins_koha    Starting build #1495 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1493 3 hr 53 min ago)
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11132 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The results list is reset on adding a biblio to a list
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11033 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In basketgroup pages, Save button and Cancel link are hidden by chooselanguage bar
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10720 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Substitution term in overdue notices shouldn't be removed even if they don't match
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix crash when generating the CSV
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7684 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , inventory :  datatable fix actions etc.
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: QA Followup and bugfixes
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 7684: multiple fixes for inventory
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9374 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In baskets, prices between 0 and 1 are displayed in red
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9780 major, P4, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Restrict the right to suppress a record used in some order
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term solution
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format.
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9218 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , intranet cart email broken for non english templates
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: (follow-up) suppress line feeds in javascript
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Allow to select items on catalogue/detail.pl and trigger actions
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: restrict the ability to delete a bib record associated with an order
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Subscription notification screen has awkward wording
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: DBrev 3.13.00.041
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 9044: (follow-up) fix merge conflict typo that broke this script
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 8307: QA Followup for finishreceive.pl
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8307: Set a value for subfields when receiving
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Liz Rea: Bug 10776: fix awkward wording in subscription notification screen
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Colin Campbell: Bug 11054: Specify UTF-8 encoding when creating a child record
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files [ FOLLOW-UP ]
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Acq Help Files
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files
02:58 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Admin Help Files
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Tools Help Files
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Serials Help
02:58 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Cataloging Help
02:58 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #1494: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 56 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1494/
02:57 Dyrcona         mtompset: I wouldn't trust splitting the encrypted file.
02:56 mtompset        Actually, our backup system uses a mountable encrypted file system on the destination.
02:55 mtompset        Hmmm... original files, tar it (double), encrypt the tar (3.5x), delete the tar (2.5x), split the encrypted tar (4.0x) ... as long at the original files don't take more than 20% (need to leave lee-way), should barely fit. :)
02:51 Jwellner        it replicates my 200GB music library pretty well from a sister unit at work.
02:50 Jwellner        and a Synology for most my other disk stuff
02:50 Jwellner        I worked with a Buffalo for that job...
02:50 Dyrcona         I use one at home instead of my ISP's router.
02:50 Jwellner        sweet :)
02:49 Dyrcona         Yeah, one of my coworkers uses one as a wireless access point at home.
02:48 Jwellner        especially with the GigE on board...
02:48 Jwellner        I was just thinking the network sniffers and such...
02:48 Dyrcona         Yeah, I've used several as network sniffers, a router, and a small office file server.
02:47 Jwellner        oh that's a neat little box... :)
02:47 jenkins_koha    Starting build #208 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 20 hr ago)
02:46 Dyrcona         No, one of these: http://www.cappuccinopc.com/buddie-d525.asp
02:44 Jwellner        A souped up netbook?
02:43 Dyrcona         Well, the backups are being done from a computer with an Atom processor, 2GB of RAM, and just under 1TB of disk space on two drives.
02:42 Jwellner        Good hardware, perhaps not... :)  I picked up a pair of 16TB arrays today on surplus for work... not sure what to do with them yet, but I'll find them a home :)
02:41 Jwellner        Depends on where you have rich uncles that have surplus :)
02:39 Dyrcona         Too bad hardware isn't free. ;)
02:38 Dyrcona         Of course, the split files could be encrypted, deleted, sent, and then the encrypted version deleted.
02:37 Dyrcona         If it is all done on the same drive, then I'd have the original files, the tar file, the split tar files, then the encrypted copies...
02:36 Dyrcona         I suppose, but wonder what happens when I run out of disk space.
02:35 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10403: (follow-up) fix test to use vendor created earlier during test <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c5e40e4923179bf0b2b630d3e09797dc4c1fdb0>
02:34 mtompset        I agree that 12,000 files gets unwieldy, but it makes for rsync-able files. :)
02:33 mtompset        1 tar file, 1 split command.
02:33 mtompset        no... the split command.
02:30 Dyrcona         uh-huh.... 300GB into 25MB files... 12,000 tar commands and a carpal tunnel syndrome diagnosis later..... ;)
02:28 mtompset        Dyrcona: You could 'split' the tarball manually. ;)
02:18 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving
02:18 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11132 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , The results list is reset on adding a biblio to a list
02:18 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref
02:18 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list
02:18 jenkins_koha    Project master_maria build #207: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/207/
02:09 Jwellner        very cool... will need to keep this tool in mind... :)
02:02 Dyrcona         plus duplicity handles incremental backup.
02:01 Dyrcona         300GB is a bit much to put in a tarball, so i like that duplicity splits them up into chunks.
02:01 Dyrcona         i have some other files that I backup using tar, gpg and scp.
02:00 Dyrcona         duplicity does symmetric.
02:00 eythian         (and make sure the key is safe somewhere else.)
02:00 eythian         I use gpg for encrypting remote backups
02:00 eythian         symmetric? Or public?
02:00 Jwellner        Ooo... very nifty :)
01:59 Dyrcona         I don't own the server where I'm sending the files, so I want to symmetrically encrypt them as well.
01:59 Dyrcona         Jwellner: duplicity also encrypts the files before doing the rsync with ssh.
01:59 Dyrcona         my ssh-agent usually dies very soon after detaching and logging out.
01:58 eythian         which would be _very_ smart and something I could get behind.
01:58 eythian         unless it was smart and tunneled the agent through itself
01:58 eythian         as soon as you created a new session, the old one wouldn't work
01:58 eythian         how does that work?
01:58 Jwellner        why not rsync via ssh?
01:58 jcamins         I use ssh-agent with tmux.
01:57 Dyrcona         So, I thought I'd write a duplicity-alike in C.
01:57 Dyrcona         Despite all the suggestions on the web, ssh-agent does not work with tmux.
01:57 Dyrcona         I expect it to take a few days, but the process dies every now and then.
01:56 jcamins         Yikes.
01:56 Dyrcona         I'm trying to remotely back up 300GB of files via duplicity to a server in San Diego.
01:56 Dyrcona         jcamins: I've been having problems with duplicity using scp/sftp with paramiko and pexpect backends, ssh-agent, tmux, etc.
01:55 jcamins         Dyrcona: to do what?
01:55 Dyrcona         The USA is messed up. I oughta know, I live there.
01:55 Dyrcona         Or at least, you used to be.
01:55 Jwellner        i know there were export restrictions but labeling them like that is interesting...
01:55 Dyrcona         In the USA they are, and in France, IIRC, you're supposed to get a license to use them.
01:54 Jwellner        it isn't listening... it's trick or treating...
01:54 mtompset        Did you know that cryptographic algorithms are considered munitions?
01:53 mtompset        Shhh.... they're listening. :P
01:53 Dyrcona         Oddly enough, I've been researching writing some crypto software tonight.
01:53 Jwellner        let's just go for broke and blame the NSA
01:52 Dyrcona         Maybe we should blame Ubuntu?
01:51 Dyrcona         It's like two instances of my IRC client started.
01:51 Dyrcona         Maybe we can blame Verizon.
01:51 mtompset        Can we blame verizon? ;)
01:51 Jwellner        problems with your evil twin again?
01:50 Jwellner        lol :)
01:49 Dyrcona1        Yes. Yes, it is. We're all mad here.
01:49 wahanui         weird is normal after a while :)
01:49 Dyrcona1        Umm, weird...
01:44 mtompset        No suprise that wahanui is not sharing in my musical flash back.
01:43 mtompset        The funk?
01:43 mtompset        Guessing randomly can be a source of amusement, as long as it isn't floody.
01:43 wizzyrea        wahanui's a winner.
01:42 mtompset        No need.
01:42 eythian         I could dump the database and check, but I'd have to take wahanui offline to do that, so I won't :)
01:42 wizzyrea        lol :)
01:42 wahanui         i heard Now that was a christmas party
01:42 wizzyrea        How about Now that?
01:42 mtompset        Right about now?
01:41 * mtompset      grins.
01:41 wahanui         now is, like, good time with holidays coming up
01:41 mtompset        How about now?
01:41 eythian         oh actually, maybe not
01:40 eythian         mtompset: it's doing some sort of match on 'she's' and turning it in to she is, but I don't think that works completely, so getting it out again may not be possible.
01:39 Jwellner        Ahh... nothing like kicking the UBoat captain off her computer when she's away to get the data...
01:39 mtompset        Well, now that I re-read the context for the Fire Weasel, at least my comment was coherent. :)
01:37 mtompset        I am just wondering what in the quote triggered wahanui to say that it had it that way.
01:36 eythian         you're applying far too much semantics to wahanui.
01:35 mtompset        Now that she?
01:35 wahanui         she is here
01:35 mtompset        she?
01:34 wahanui         i already had it that way, huginn.
01:34 huginn          eythian: Quote #233: "<oleonard> How about Now that she's three my daughter has terrible authority control" (added by gmcharlt at 05:06 PM, February 14, 2013)
01:34 eythian         @quote random
01:33 mtompset        Hmm... I don't remember the Fire Weasel one.
01:32 huginn          eythian: 4 found: #208: "<mtompset> Tonight... I tango with git.", #215: "mtompset> So would a Fire Weasel be a...", #259: "<mtompset> What have I found?! The horror! The...", and #282: "mtompset: there will always be bugs, until the..."
01:32 eythian         @quote search mtompset
01:30 mtompset        Ah, okay. I didn't realize I got quote added.
01:30 huginn          mtompset: Quote #282: "mtompset: there will always be bugs, until the length of code is 0." (added by wizzyrea at 09:12 PM, October 29, 2013)
01:30 mtompset        @quote get 282
01:30 huginn          mtompset: Quote #281: "cait thinks renewable karma makes a lot of sense" (added by gmcharlt at 05:38 PM, October 28, 2013)
01:30 mtompset        @quote get 281
01:30 huginn          mtompset: Quote #280: "<oleonard> Κοηα?" (added by gmcharlt at 02:15 PM, October 25, 2013)
01:30 mtompset        @quote get 280
01:29 huginn          mtompset: Quote #279: "eythian:	steep learning curves are good, because it means in a short time you learn a lot. It's the shallow ones that are bad because over a long time you learn very little." (added by mtompset at 04:06 AM, September 26, 2013)
01:29 mtompset        @quote get 279
01:29 huginn          mtompset: Quote #278: "jcamins: ... OMGOMGOMG MUST FIX ALL THE THINGS." (added by mtompset at 03:50 AM, September 17, 2013)
01:29 mtompset        @quote get 278
01:29 huginn          mtompset: The operation succeeded.  Quote #283 added.
01:29 mtompset        @quote add <ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P
01:29 jenkins_koha    Starting build #207 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 19 hr ago)
01:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11033 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In basketgroup pages, Save button and Cancel link are hidden by chooselanguage bar
01:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10720 normal, P3, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Master , Substitution term in overdue notices shouldn't be removed even if they don't match
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Mathieu Saby: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page
01:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7684 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , inventory :  datatable fix actions etc.
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export
01:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9374 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , In baskets, prices between 0 and 1 are displayed in red
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc
01:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9780 major, P4, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Restrict the right to suppress a record used in some order
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix crash when generating the CSV
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7684: QA Followup and bugfixes
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Matthias Meusburger: Bug 7684: multiple fixes for inventory
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term solution
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format.
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt
01:28 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9218 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , intranet cart email broken for non english templates
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: (follow-up) suppress line feeds in javascript
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Mathieu Saby: Bug 9780: restrict the ability to delete a bib record associated with an order
01:28 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates
01:28 jenkins_koha    Project master_maria build #206: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/206/
01:28 huginn          mtompset: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
01:28 mtompset        @quote add <ashimema> ... looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right. :P
01:23 ashimema        nighty night #koha
01:22 ashimema        right..
01:22 ashimema        sure there's a reason.. but I can't remember why..
01:22 ashimema        but I had to enable the Local-number index first.. seems to be commented out in zebra config for 3.10.6
01:22 ashimema        Just in case anyone ever goes through the logs looking for the answer to my question above.. the correct syntax was: bulkmarcimport.pl -t -b -match Local-number,035a -v -file Results/bibl.mrc -v >Logs/load_bibl_fix.log
01:15 talljoy         lock up the children, i'm heading out.
01:14 talljoy         i'm headed out for a late dinner.  trick or treaters be dammed.  i'm hitting the road.
01:14 talljoy         true that.
01:13 ashimema        think I may leave working out what that first param actually needs to be untill the morning.. indexname may make more sense to me on a night sleep ;)
01:12 ashimema        that is indeed very true..
01:11 talljoy         of course, time being irrelevant in #koha as someone is always here and it's morning somewhere
01:11 talljoy         it's late here too.
01:10 talljoy         i was just thinking that.
01:10 ashimema        I'm gonna blame my misreading on it being late.. it's late here.. honest.
01:09 gmcharlt        as the neural interface to the fine manual is still awaiting signoff...
01:09 Jwellner        :)
01:09 gmcharlt        heh
01:08 ashimema        now i feel like a muppet.. looks like 'rtfm' only works if you read it right :p
01:08 ashimema        now i re-read it that make very good sense
01:08 talljoy         i always wish they would give specific examples on some of these.
01:07 ashimema        ahh.. that makes sense..
01:07 talljoy         my reading of the perldoc looks like it wants the indexname,matchpoint    so  --match 035indexname,035a  ??
01:06 ashimema        thanks for your thoughts anyways talljoy
01:06 ashimema        right.. think that's a sign it's bedtime.
01:06 ashimema        and now the servers I'm working on seems ot have just slowed to a crawl.
01:05 ashimema        same error unfortunately..
01:04 ashimema        am just about to ;)
01:01 jenkins_koha    Starting build #1494 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) don't require userenv
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) update stage_file.pl
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: (follow-up) update DBIx::Class schema classes
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 8015: DBRev 3.13.00.040
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: QA Followup 2
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: QA Followup
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) remove references to C4::Koha::Log
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) add user permissions to all languages
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: Add unit tests for SimpleMARC and MarcModificationTemplates routines
01:01 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8015 new feature, P4, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add MARC Modifications Templates
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) fix various issues (squashed patch)
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: (follow-up) trap exceptions thrown by SetUTF8Flag()
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: (follow-up) move from the Koha to the C4 namespace
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8015: (follow-up) fix copy and move if subfields don't exist.
01:01 jenkins_koha    * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8015: Add MARC Modifications Templates
01:01 jenkins_koha    Project Koha_master build #1493: SUCCESS in 1 hr 55 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1493/
01:01 talljoy         i can't tell precisely what it wants but did you try it without the subfielda?  --match 035
01:00 ashimema        have a feeling I'm going to have to resort to the code :%
01:00 ashimema        hmm
01:00 ashimema        from that.
01:00 ashimema        which seems to match the perldoc.. but unfrotunately I just get: Use of uninitialized value $recorddata in pattern match (m//) at /home/koha/kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl line 441,
00:59 ashimema        So.. the syntax I tried was 'bulkmarcimport.pl -t -b -match 035a -v -file Results/bibl.mrc -v >Logs/load_bibl_fix.log'
00:58 talljoy         i know.
00:58 ashimema        trying to sort out a borked load ;).. why is it people always find a bunch of missing stuff months after the original work..
00:57 ashimema        wanting to match 035 subfield a
00:57 ashimema        nor do I usually..
00:57 talljoy         ashimema: what are you matching on?
00:57 Jwellner        a lot of them are reporting accounts for the imaging system, raid card... and after this weekend, Koha :)
00:56 talljoy         i don't use the match on bulkmarcimport
00:56 ashimema        anyone here understand the syntax for the bulkmarkimport script when using -match?
00:56 talljoy         i can barely keep up with 2 emails, let alone 8!
00:55 Jwellner        Mavericks didn't like my mail.app having 8 gmail accounts on it.. :)
00:54 Jwellner        RAID wasn't happy about it I guess...
00:53 Jwellner        synology
00:53 Jwellner        lots of little files going to a sinology...
00:52 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8307: (follow-up) fix discrepancy in name of the new syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=af4b6c8420bf719b2feb339815a8812e12c32bc1> / Bug 11132: don't clear the results list upon adding a biblio to a list <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=de5d977c499144a39189692e957333620efc73eb>
00:49 talljoy         that's a lot of data
00:49 wizzyrea        !
00:49 Jwellner        oh sure... now my machine at work finishes backing up... after 2 days...
00:48 talljoy         tempura before sushi....yiiss.....sounds good.
00:48 talljoy         lol
00:48 * wizzyrea      had perhaps too much tempura for lunch #urp
00:47 Jwellner        sounds good too
00:47 talljoy         i really want sushi and a martini
00:47 talljoy         faster, heh
00:47 talljoy         fries, baked, souffle,
00:47 Jwellner        Drive faster :)
00:47 talljoy         sweet potato anything!
00:47 talljoy         i'd like to go to dinner, but i fear mowing down innocent trick-o-treators in the street
00:47 Jwellner        Oooo... sweet potato pie... nom
00:47 Jwellner        making some spanish rice with beans and veggies right now...
00:46 jcamins         talljoy: we have some sweet potato pie in the freezer.
00:46 talljoy         i'm really hungry, i guess you can tell
00:46 wahanui         hmmm... mmmm is right :)
00:46 talljoy         mmmm.....
00:46 Jwellner        pumpkin is coming up :)
00:46 talljoy         shoofly
00:46 talljoy         cherry
00:46 talljoy         apple
00:45 talljoy         i like pie
00:45 jcamins         wizzyrea: yep.
00:40 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11033: Make Save button and Cancel link always visible on basketgroup page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=eca16da01f2a21dce351ac736e54092972c97f65>
00:40 wizzyrea        there's a lot to like in pi
00:40 wizzyrea        I like it :)
00:40 wizzyrea        jcamins that was your one?
00:39 jenkins_koha    Starting build #206 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 9 days 18 hr ago)
00:39 jcamins         wizzyrea: thanks!
00:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9044 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Allow to select items on catalogue/detail.pl and trigger actions
00:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8307 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Set a value for items when receiving
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 8307: DBrev 3.13.00.041
00:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10776 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Subscription notification screen has awkward wording
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Galen Charlton: Bug 9044: (follow-up) fix merge conflict typo that broke this script
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 8307: QA Followup for finishreceive.pl
00:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11054 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Creating a child record has problems with accented Latin characters
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Jonathan Druart: Bug 8307: Set a value for subfields when receiving
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Liz Rea: Bug 10776: fix awkward wording in subscription notification screen
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Colin Campbell: Bug 11054: Specify UTF-8 encoding when creating a child record
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files [ FOLLOW-UP ]
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Acq Help Files
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron help files
00:39 huginn          04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Admin Help Files
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Tools Help Files
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Serials Help
00:39 jenkins_koha    * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Cataloging Help
00:39 jenkins_koha    Project master_maria build #205: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/205/
00:32 mtompset        forward/back?
00:31 wizzyrea        good work!
00:31 * wizzyrea      just noticed the forward/back in the intranet.
00:30 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10720: fix issue that prevented use of HTML tags in overdue notices <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=394be84dcd65a4569d0467bc12b99dbd6341fc43> / Bug 7684: (follow-up) fix UTF-8 encoding problems in CSV export <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9abfb7a7645388b159bfb0a249d98f9fe29cde1f> / Bug 7684: (follow-up) use datatables.inc <http://git.koha-community.org/g
00:10 wahanui         Hmm.  No matches for that, huginn.
00:10 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9374: (follow-up) add FIXME suggesting that use of a regexp is not the long-term... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ae61b6a2a6b2c6e27f33d1d32e1849265782530> / Bug 9374: The color should manage all zero format. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c523b56bcf0eccb2feb342fe962e590d74baa749> / Bug 9374: Only 0.00 prices must have class error in basket.tt <http://
00:00 huginn          New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9218: fix intranet cart email for non english templates <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4c5496ec656ee4745587b3cea239cc849d2c09a>