Time  Nick          Message
23:11 jcamins       pianohacker: or grouchy. Mine would be grouchy.
23:05 pianohacker   nengard's inbox must be happy
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Reports Help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update holds help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Reviews Help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Remove Unused Help File
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Offline Circ Help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update suggestion help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update plugins help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update tag tool help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update patron card creator help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update links in label help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Add missing authority merge help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Lists Help
23:02 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Pushed to Master , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update main help files
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update links in Catalog help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Update Authorities Help
23:02 jenkins_koha  * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 10671: Add missing patron lists help
23:02 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #185: STILL UNSTABLE in 45 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/185/
22:54 jcamins       UseQueryParser syspref.
22:52 captflint     just curious, how does one turn on QueryParser?
22:49 captflint     it also works if you search for all books published before 2200 :)
22:49 jcamins       Fair enough.
22:49 jcamins       Heh.
22:49 jcamins       If you do have QueryParser on, you can use this query: allrecords:true
22:49 captflint     ahh, well since I am the only one putting in catalog data on this particular installation, it should work for me
22:48 jcamins       If you don't have QueryParser on you can use this query: pqf=@attr 1=_ALLRECORDS @attr 2=103 ""
22:48 jcamins       Records may not have publication dates at all.
22:48 jcamins       captflint: unfortunately that won't necessarily work.
22:47 captflint     You can just search for all books published after a 1500
22:46 captflint     So I figured out an easier way to view all the books in a catalog
22:20 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1479 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
22:16 jenkins_koha  Starting build #185 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 6 days 15 hr ago)
22:14 cait          good night all
22:14 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10671: Update Reports Help <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=17ea4aeec28f60d93d1b1d3f8a09d11a1768efbd> / Bug 10671: Update holds help <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7a15198d721f2bbb4fdd0be53c56191ad8c5183> / Bug 10671: Update Reviews Help <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=278c4ae23566830d699d024ee3029d2dfda04779> / Bug 106
22:03 cait          already falling asleep
22:03 cait          probably the invoices in the morning
22:02 cait          looking at the follow up ashimena did for 6149 now
22:02 cait          i will try that :)
22:02 gmcharlt      prove -r
22:02 cait          what would? :)
22:01 eythian       yeah, 'prove' doesn't recurse.
22:01 cait          and i need to improve me script that runs the tests apparently :)
22:01 gmcharlt      cait: oopsie. I've replaced the patch and set the status back to needs signoff
21:59 NateC         sup rangi!!
21:59 rangi         hey NateC
21:54 cait          prove t/Acquisition/Invoice.t fails, but running prove t is ok.... probably it doesn't run the tests and the directory?
21:53 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8854 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , invoice filters don't all work
21:53 cait          gmcharlt: could you take a look at bug 8854?
21:53 mtompset      I see the latest version is 4.4... will our URL change in the future?
21:52 mtompset      YAY!
21:52 cait          hm weird
21:52 gmcharlt      mtompset: no need, the problem was on BZ's end
21:52 cait          woohoo
21:52 mtompset      if we git pull the latest version?
21:51 gmcharlt      general announcement: git-bz should now be functioning normally
21:37 captflint     ok, cool
21:37 eythian       captflint: you could build a list with a report.
21:36 captflint     is there any way to view all the books in the catalog?
21:35 kathryn       cait: no need no need!
21:34 cait          kathryn: it's really small... i didn't come up with something better yet - but working on it
21:34 eythian       see, it's colder here ;)
21:34 huginn        eythian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on October 29, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
21:34 kathryn       thank you for the treat cait :)
21:34 eythian       @wunder nzwn
21:33 cait          hmm
21:33 huginn        cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 14.4°C (10:30 PM CET on October 28, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
21:33 cait          @wunder Konstanz
21:32 eythian       I dunno, it got down to about 9°C here overnight :)
21:32 cait          we got your cold weather too :(
21:31 eythian       I think you got ours, it was really calm here yesterday and today, after a whole week of high winds.
21:29 cait          making weird noises blowing around the house
21:29 cait          indeed some wind here today
21:29 cait          yep
21:29 eythian       back in windy Germany cait?
21:28 cait          hey eythian :)
21:27 eythian       hi
21:17 cait          wizzyrea++
21:14 wizzyrea      yw :)
21:14 captflint     thanks again wizzy
21:14 cait          but only the firsthalf was tagged with [SIGNED OFF]
21:13 cait          they have all sign offs
21:13 wizzyrea      you should create some in more -> administration
21:13 cait          i think i was wrong
21:13 pianohacker   what authentication with SAML feels like: http://longstreet.typepad.com/thesciencebookstore/images/2008/10/13/1blog_oct_13marconi_at_sea816.jpg
21:13 cait          ah
21:13 captflint     ah, but there aren't any to choose from
21:13 wizzyrea      so click on tab 9 in cataloguing, scroll down to the 942c, and give it an item type
21:13 wizzyrea      :)
21:13 wizzyrea      because you haven't given it a koha item type in tab 9
21:12 captflint     anybody know why koha won't let me save this marc record.  It is compliaing about field 942 subfeild c item in tab 9
21:10 pianohacker   cait: which bug now?
21:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Signed Off , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update
21:05 cait          bug 10671
21:04 cait          imported from Nevada :)
21:04 * cait        hands wizzyrea a peanut butter cup
20:58 wizzyrea      LIANZA was fun, but it wasn't a week with my kohabuddies
20:58 wizzyrea      too good for nevada. Pft.
20:56 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Signed Off , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update
20:56 cait          i still need some sign ofs on bug 10671
20:53 pianohacker   *sniff*
20:53 pianohacker   and wizzytoogoodfornevada
20:53 cait          hi pianohacker :)
20:53 pianohacker   hey cait :)
20:51 wizzyrea      sweeeet
20:51 cait          wizzyrea: yep - since friday, smooth trip
20:51 wizzyrea      :D
20:51 captflint     wizzyrea: hey thanks, it is working now.  I am impressed with how easily I was able to get the thing up and running to be honest.
20:51 wizzyrea      hi cait! are you safely back in germany now?
20:49 jenkins_koha  * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Database update for 3.10.12 release
20:49 jenkins_koha  * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.10.12
20:49 jenkins_koha  * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Release notes for 3.10.12 release
20:49 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_3.10.x build #186: STILL UNSTABLE in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/186/
20:49 cait          wizzyrea++
20:49 captflint     ok thanks
20:48 wizzyrea      do read the disclaimer there.
20:48 wizzyrea      http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages#Disable_Default_Site
20:44 captflint     do I need to delete that first to get it to work?
20:44 wizzyrea      ah
20:44 captflint     I just get the default apache "It's Working" page
20:44 wizzyrea      or it gives you staff for both?
20:44 captflint     I tried that
20:44 wizzyrea      can you hit just the ip?
20:44 captflint     ipaddress:8080
20:43 captflint     via ip addess
20:43 wizzyrea      what url are you using :)
20:43 wizzyrea      how are you accessing the staff client?
20:41 captflint     hi all, I just installed koha on a debain VM, but I have a question.  I am able to access the staff interface just fine, but how do I access the OPAC?
20:32 rangi         http://heeris.id.au/2013/this-is-why-you-shouldnt-interrupt-a-programmer
20:12 rangi         back
20:04 jenkins_koha  Starting build #186 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #184 16 days ago)
20:04 jenkins_koha  * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Increment version for 3.12.6 release
20:04 jenkins_koha  * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Translation updates for 3.12.06
20:04 jenkins_koha  * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Update release notes for 3.12.6 release
20:04 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_3.12.x build #101: STILL UNSTABLE in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/101/
19:45 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10671 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Signed Off , Koha 3.14 Help Files Update
19:45 cait          bug 10671
19:45 cait          someone time to sign off on some help file changes?
19:44 cait          ok, back now
19:35 tcohen        bye #koha
19:32 cait          it's just because it gets more perfect every time ;)
19:29 tcohen        is this the smallest release ever? i feel i'm a lazy rmaint
19:29 cait          tcohen++ :)
19:25 tcohen        itmanager still out of office, lucky him
19:25 jenkins_koha  Starting build #101 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #98 20 days ago)
19:25 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10271 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , An index containing ns or nb does not work
19:25 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11090 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap theme: CSS problem with suggestions toolbar links
19:25 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10750 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Correct capitalization on suggestion form in OPAC
19:25 jenkins_koha  * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10271: (follow-up) correct tabs
19:25 jenkins_koha  * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10271: fix searching using an index containing "ns" or "nb"
19:25 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11108 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , undoing receiving does not appear to work (but actually does)
19:25 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10271: regression test for search using indexes containing 'ns'
19:25 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11090 - Bootstrap theme: fix CSS problem with suggestions toolbar links
19:25 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10750: (follow-up) fix capitalization of suggestion form in Bootstrap theme
19:25 jenkins_koha  * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10750: Correct capitalization on suggestion form in OPAC
19:25 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11108: fix duplicate display of basket whose receipt has just been cancelled
19:25 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1478: SUCCESS in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1478/
19:22 jcamins       tcohen: yeah, probably.
19:21 tcohen        while true { malloc ; free }
19:21 jcamins       What's it doing that sucks battery down at twice the usual rate?
19:20 jcamins       Somehow it just killed my battery.
19:20 jcamins       Every time I use MS Word, I am reminded that it utterly sucks.
19:20 jcamins       MS_Word--
19:12 tcohen        has anyone have the time to test the zebra / marcxml patches?
19:11 * cait        would have to be taught then
19:10 oleonard      Okay, well.... Not sure how I can contribute to the solution.
19:08 jcamins       The on-the-fly compilation being included in our recommended PSGI application.
19:08 jcamins       Well, setting up Plack.
19:08 jcamins       gmcharlt: yeah, but few enough that I would think one of us who uses Plack could walk them through setting up on-the-fly compilation without much fuss.
19:07 gmcharlt      jcamins: there are a few folks who will occassionally test non-JS for accessbility checking
19:07 jcamins       oleonard: http://search.cpan.org/~naoya/Plack-Middleware-File-Less-0.02/lib/Plack/Middleware/File/Less.pm
19:07 oleonard      What does Plack do in this case?
19:06 jcamins       It seems to me that the number of people testing features not intended for JS is pretty small.
19:06 tcohen         9
19:06 jcamins       We could also say "if you want to do that, you need to use Plack and use on-the-fly compilation.
19:06 * oleonard    uses node and https://github.com/jonycheung/Dead-Simple-LESS-Watch-Compiler
19:05 oleonard      True
19:05 gmcharlt      though a server-side compilation option woudl still be handy for folks who are testing the OPAC with JavaScript disabled
19:04 oleonard      ...assuming the RM was compiling when pushing.
19:04 gmcharlt      oleonard: indeed
19:04 * cait        has to do laundry and dishes... brb
19:03 oleonard      gmcharlt: For developers it could be as simple as having the template call the .less files directly and compile on the fly with JS.
19:03 gmcharlt      rangi: update sent
19:03 cait          heh
19:02 oleonard      I'll say.
19:02 rangi         it takes a while
19:02 rangi         hehe i wont, they are putting on shoes
19:02 cait          rangi: don't forget the kids :)
19:00 rangi         altho using nginx (or lighthttpd or something) to serve the static and plack to serve the dynamic is still probably nicer
19:00 mtompset      Speaking of kids... bus stop time.
18:59 rangi         yep
18:59 gmcharlt      (+ a bit of Plack invocation magic, presumably)
18:59 rangi         we could use the version number
18:59 rangi         plus a rewrite rule
18:59 rangi         it would just be a TT plugin
18:59 gmcharlt      agreed
18:59 rangi         something to perhaps think about
18:58 rangi         and you can cache it forevers
18:58 rangi         because the file looks different to the webbrowser each release
18:58 rangi         such that, you dont need to get ppl to go round shift refreshing
18:57 rangi         so the path to the css is /something/something/timestamp/file.css
18:57 gmcharlt      rangi: yes, that's one option, though there needs to be a way for devs to readily recompile them during intermediate stages
18:57 rangi         we also have a rewrite rule
18:57 rangi         thats how we do it for stuff.co.nz
18:56 rangi         gmcharlt: build them when doign a release?
18:55 gmcharlt      and just provide the tools to generate them when needed, and maybe add a non-production mode to compile them on the fly for testing
18:55 oleonard      gmcharlt: How would that work?
18:55 rangi         it may be the status change needs a token bit too
18:55 gmcharlt      oleonard: OK, sounds like we're on the samge page; my preference would be to take out the generated CSS files entirely
18:55 rangi         cool
18:55 cait          and now i won't have to go through a git-format patch nightmare :)
18:55 cait          because i have the help files to qa...
18:55 cait          rangi: i am already very happy :)
18:54 rangi         the status changing should be easier to fix
18:54 gmcharlt      oleonard: if we go that route, I think the thing to do would be to integrate it into the installation process, and write up instructions for devs on how to compile it whenever they need to chagne something
18:54 oleonard      gmcharlt: I wonder if you think it would make sense to ask developers to submit changes only to the .less files and have the RM compile the CSS when pushing?
18:54 rangi         i have to take kids to school, if someone could reply to my mail saying that that would be great
18:53 * cait        confirms
18:53 cait          oh yay!
18:53 gmcharlt      oleonard: sounds reasonable, especially given the availability of several different LESS compilers
18:53 rangi         but not if you change the status
18:52 rangi         git bz attach works
18:52 rangi         thats it
18:52 cait          gmcharlt: which command did you use?
18:52 rangi         gmcharlt: interesting i wonder if it was changing the status that was doing it
18:51 rangi         oleonard: as i write very very little css ill defer to those who do
18:51 * cait        goes to try
18:51 cait          !
18:51 gmcharlt      rangi: yeah, but I just successfully attached a patch to the test bug (6473)
18:51 rangi         hmm redundant rangi is redundant
18:51 rangi         gmcharlt: it only doesnt work when i attach gmcharlt
18:50 oleonard      We should talk about workflow with the new Bootstrap theme. I've been using LESS to generate the CSS, and I'd like to be able to continue to do so going forward
18:50 gmcharlt      rangi: hmm, I'm finding git-bz is for me ... not broken
18:50 rangi         http://www.avpreserve.com/blog/avpreserve-releases-fixity-and-mdqc-digital-preservation-tools/  <-- more on topic to #koha
18:49 gmcharlt      oleonard: ayup
18:49 oleonard      gmcharlt still around?
18:48 rangi         oh cool
18:47 oleonard      We had programmable toys back in the day too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Trak
18:47 rangi         most of them wait until you put something in your cart
18:46 cait          hm i think they have to have the shipping here.... but not totally sure
18:45 rangi         more internet stuffs should do that
18:45 rangi         it tells you the shipping cost, without having to sign up first
18:45 rangi         https://www.play-i.com/crowdfunding/rewards
18:45 rangi         now this is cool
18:44 rangi         https://www.play-i.com/  offtopic
18:44 rangi         crushing pedestrians, knocking over little old ladies
18:43 rangi         i must admit it was fun to drive
18:43 gmcharlt      oleonard: if it weren't stupidly huge, it wouldn't be an American truck by definition ;)
18:43 cait          guess it's similar to portion sizes?
18:42 oleonard      Do American trucks come in another size besides "stupidly huge?"
18:42 rangi         http://photos.bigballofwax.co.nz/gallery3/index.php/ourwedding/album28/IMG_3696  <-- some of the nzers who flew to pittsburgh for the wedding, in the stupidly huge rental truck, simon is second from the right
18:41 * jcamins     didn't know there was one.
18:41 jcamins       oleonard: oh.
18:41 oleonard      From the live action Scooby Doo movie jcamins
18:40 rangi         jcamins: naw, but he is pretty recognisable
18:40 cait          rangi: so you were not the last one to get home :)
18:39 cait          ah JD landed in nz :)
18:39 oleonard      I didn't realize he went on to voice subsequent Scooby Doo cartoons
18:38 oleonard      Yeah his IMDB list looks pretty thin in the big movie dept.
18:38 jcamins       Did he really look like the cartoon?
18:38 jcamins       How could you recognize him, anyway?
18:37 rangi         maybe thats why he was so angry
18:37 rangi         it was pretty horrendous
18:37 rangi         that movie may have ended his career
18:37 rangi         im not sure shaggy has worked again
18:37 rangi         hehe no, simon
18:36 jcamins       rangi: Shaggy was at your wedding?
18:36 rangi         the next time i saw him after that was at my wedding in pittsburgh actually
18:36 cait          i love happy ends :)
18:36 cait          yay!
18:36 oleonard      And did the photos get posted online somewhere for shaggy-shaming?
18:36 rangi         yep, he is the head of the nz pharmalogical society, and chief pharmacist at nelson hospital now
18:35 cait          rangi: is there a happy end? did simon come back from UK?
18:35 oleonard      :D
18:35 cait          lol
18:35 rangi         it was pretty epic
18:35 rangi         so simon said "get the f**k out of our photos shaggy you twat"
18:34 rangi         so pulled the bird in the background of a couple of shots
18:34 rangi         shaggy got it into his head we were taking photos of him
18:34 jcamins       Every movie should have a paddle! Otherwise what will they do if a canoe suddenly appears?
18:34 rangi         and at some point we were taking photos
18:34 rangi         my friend simon was off to the UK, so we were having a farewell dinner
18:34 rangi         and was at nicolini's restaurant eating with seth green and the big guy who was in ER
18:33 rangi         well the guy who played shaggy in the movie, was here in wellington filming a horrid movie (without a paddle) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364751/
18:33 oleonard      rangi: Did the Scooby Doo gang thwart your plot to steal the treasure?
18:32 cait          not yet
18:32 rangi         did i ever tell you my scooby doo story?
18:32 rangi         hehe nice
18:31 cait          4 movies and an episode of scoobie doo :)
18:31 rangi         bag: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=82244&src=twitter-iotd  <-- mt doom second from the right
18:30 rangi         i managed to watch 5 movies :)
18:30 rangi         yep, and aisle too, and the couple next to me crashed out and slept the whole flight, it was pretty sweet
18:30 talljoy       nice.  legroom!!!
18:30 rangi         i lucked out and got a bulkhead seat
18:29 talljoy       but it gets you where you want on the cheap many times.  so that makes up for it
18:29 rangi         yeah
18:29 talljoy       it's brutal
18:29 rangi         talljoy: i was thinking of your man on the flight home, some poor staff person had to sit in the jump seat for the full 12 hour flight (well they walked around a bit, but even so)
18:20 jcamins       rangi: not here!
18:19 cait          used... gr. :)
18:19 rangi         :)
18:19 rangi         thats a bit drastic!!
18:19 rangi         sued?
18:18 cait          i think maybe left out on purpose or not sued by the library
18:18 JesseM        Thats what I was thinking. Just didn't know if was left out for a reason. :)
18:17 oleonard      In other words: probably a bug in the CCSR theme JesseM
18:17 JesseM        Hey rangi I will try that thanks
18:16 rangi         JesseM: have you tried on master with the bootstrap theme?
18:15 JesseM        I have a question. Is there a reason why My Purchase Suggestions, My Lists, and My Messaging do not show up when your logged in on a mobile device?
18:15 cait          hi JesseM :)
18:15 rangi         hi JesseM
18:14 druthb        hi, JesseM.
18:14 JesseM        Hello #koha
18:12 cait          http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Correcting_Search_of_Arabic_records
18:12 cait          i was thinking of this:
18:12 cait          back home and already covered it work again
18:12 cait          ah sorry :)
18:12 tcohen        cait: you promised some pointers to ICU confiiguration page
18:10 kivilahtio    another day another trial
18:02 mtompset      Okay... better go see what styling changes I have to make in the near future.
18:02 mtompset      That's all?
18:02 tcohen        opactheme
18:02 gmcharlt      mtompset: set the opactheme system preference
18:01 mtompset      How would I change to bootstrap?
18:01 gmcharlt      mtompset: Bootstrap is in master, and currently 'prog' is the default if you were to do a fresh install from master
18:00 mtompset      This does raise a question in my mind... Is Bootstrap already in master, and what is default in Master now?
18:00 mtompset      gmcharlt: Okay, valid points.
17:57 jcamins       At best, your diplomacy makes your tolerance "reasonably low."
17:57 reiveune      bye
17:55 jcamins       gmcharlt: "extremely low tolerance"? I call BS. Your tolerance is miles above mine.
17:54 cait          gmcharlt++ :)
17:54 gmcharlt      also, they can be derailing
17:53 gmcharlt      mtompset: fairly or not, I have an extremely low tolerance for discussions about version numbering; while I'm not opposed to the notion that we should increment the major version number or do something else at some point in the future, I consider the effort that usually goes into discussing it to represent an opportunity cost for other things we can discuss
17:49 mtompset      gmcharlt: tangential, not completely off-topic. :P
17:42 cait          gmcharlt++
17:41 tcohen        heh
17:40 * druthb      is a Buddhist, so renewable Karma makes perfect sense.  You one-time-arounders can treat it like a limited resource, if you want.
17:40 cait          :P
17:40 druthb        no hide!
17:40 * cait        hides
17:39 cait          [off] it reminded me of this comic: http://nichtlustig.de/toondb/030917.html
17:38 huginn        gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #281 added.
17:38 gmcharlt      @quote add cait thinks renewable karma makes a lot of sense
17:36 * cait        thinks renewable karma makes a lot of sense
17:34 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1478 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
17:33 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10802 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , history.txt missing in packages
17:33 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8705 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, RESOLVED FIXED, Software error on help of main page
17:33 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8507 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , koha-create should be updated to use DOM indexing for bib
17:33 jenkins_koha  * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 10802: make Debian package install history.txt
17:33 jenkins_koha  * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8705: Restore current stable branch's default behaviour
17:33 jenkins_koha  * Mirko Tietgen: Bug 8507: (follow-up) fix one reference to __ZEBRA_BIBLIOS_CFG__
17:33 jenkins_koha  * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 8507: koha-create now supports using DOM indexing for bibs
17:33 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_3.12.x build #100: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.12.x/100/
17:33 gaetan_B      bye !
17:33 mtompset      Actually, the only limit is the byte size storing the number. :P
17:32 druthb        pfft.  I'm already on renewable-energy karma.
17:31 oleonard      druthb spends karma like it's not a limited resource which will run out eventually and we'll have to switch to solar karma
17:31 cait          hmpf
17:31 druthb        cait, you do stuff *all*.*The*.*time* that deserves a ++.
17:30 druthb        bull.
17:25 * cait        didn#t do anything
17:19 druthb        cait++
17:19 oleonard      ...and to all who contributed
17:19 druthb        oleonard++
17:19 oleonard      jcamins++
17:19 oleonard      rangi++
17:19 oleonard      git-bz++
17:15 oleonard      Any number of people in the list of committers including rangi and jcamins
17:14 cait          we have a git repository for git bz and we could do a pull request i think or send a patch to fishsoup
17:14 cait          i think whoever speaks python and does
17:14 mtompset      So, who can fix and how?
17:12 cait          hm.
17:12 cait          not sure whom yet tho
17:12 cait          but better might try and bribe someone to fix maybe...
17:12 cait          i am pondering it.
17:12 oleonard      I would go on strike if I were you cait
17:11 cait          i only say marc modifications...
17:11 cait          oleonard: be glad you are not QAM... have you seen how many qa follow ups are on some of the patches?
17:10 cait          hi all
17:10 cait          :)
17:10 oleonard      Ugh, I have to attach patches *by hand?!* I might as well hand-write them and send them through the mail!
17:10 druthb        cait!
17:04 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10271 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , An index containing ns or nb does not work
17:04 jenkins_koha  * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 10271: (follow-up) correct tabs
17:04 jenkins_koha  * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10271: fix searching using an index containing "ns" or "nb"
17:04 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10271: regression test for search using indexes containing 'ns'
17:04 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #184: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/184/
16:53 jenkins_koha  Starting build #100 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #98 20 days ago)
16:53 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11133 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Markup errors in OPAC place hold form HTML
16:53 jenkins_koha  Owen Leonard: Bug 11133: fix markup errors in OPAC place hold form HTML
16:53 jenkins_koha  Project Koha_master build #1477: SUCCESS in 1 hr 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/1477/
16:40 rambuten      tcohen: what time frame would you recommend for KohaCon14?
16:36 mtompset      Hmmm... I think Spain references call for a Moxy Fruvous moment: http://youtu.be/ylaLG-DdT7E
16:36 rambuten      when might dates for KohaCon14 be firmed up, do you (collective you) think?
16:33 wahanui       interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
16:33 rambuten      gmcharlt: interesting
16:32 rambuten      suppose LSTA would approve a grant for that?
16:31 rambuten      after the < $1,300 group, it jumps to > $1,600
16:31 * oleonard    should start applying for grants to go to all sorts of conferences!
16:31 oleonard      That's the range was was seeing too rambuten
16:31 gmcharlt      oleonard: that reminds me of an angle -- I know of at least one international book conference where the government of Spain actually gave travel grants for U.S. librarians to attend
16:31 rambuten      yep
16:30 mtompset      round trip, rambuten?
16:30 rambuten      airfare for me isn't looking bad, lots of flights for < $1,300
16:29 tcohen        :-P
16:29 tcohen        skyscanner
16:29 tcohen        heh
16:27 * oleonard    should stop checking airline prices to Cordoba and get back to work
16:25 rambuten      [off]I'll bet KohaCon14 will be cheaper than some of the Sirsi conferences, but the merely the fact that it's not in the USA--it's in an exotic foreign land-- throws up mental blocks for budgeters
16:23 rambuten      [off]we used to spend big $$ to send people to the Sirsi Superconference. The conference cost and they were frequently held in expensive places which meant expensive hotels and food
16:22 * oleonard    doesn't know what it's like for the big metro public libraries
16:22 oleonard      I would think it would be EXTREMELY unlikely for an American public library to pay for *any* overseas trip
16:22 tcohen        does it cost more than europe?
16:22 oleonard      tcohen: Yes, primarily.
16:21 tcohen        oleonard: is that a budget issue?
16:21 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 10271: (follow-up) correct tabs <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6721b2fceb47f4599d092b6473323b687f9669f> / Bug 10271: fix searching using an index containing "ns" or "nb" <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e17abe0e2891cc420581ebe998e1c8444ba844d3> / Bug 10271: regression test for search using indexes containing 'ns' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=
16:16 jenkins_koha  Starting build #184 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 6 days 9 hr ago)
16:16 rambuten      too bad we can't deduct it from our income taxes as an eductional expense
16:15 oleonard      Yeah, not gonna be many American librarians getting paid to go to KohaCon14 unfortunately
16:14 rambuten      if I pay, then I'll pad a couple days before and after to actually see stuff
16:14 rambuten      When the library sends me places, it's for the shortest, cheapest amount of time possible
16:14 tcohen        if that happens rambuten i'll be in charge you enjoy the best possible
16:13 rambuten      I'll probably have to pay my own way, but really want to attend KohaCon14
16:13 tcohen        thanks oleonard
16:13 oleonard      http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=kohacon13
16:11 tcohen        kohacon13 photos?
16:07 mtompset      My login hack could interface to it too via SimpleSAMLPHP. :)
16:07 * mtompset    laughs, "People think it is! :P"
16:06 tcohen        :-D
16:06 wahanui       facebook is *not* a universal authenticator!
16:06 mtompset      oh facebook.
16:06 tcohen        hi mtompset
16:06 tcohen        ?
16:05 mtompset      tcohen: BTW, nice cover photo, by the way.
16:05 wahanui       i heard mtompset was catching up in the non-coding aspects of his ministry.
16:05 tcohen        mtompset
16:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11090 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Bootstrap theme: CSS problem with suggestions toolbar links
16:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10750 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Correct capitalization on suggestion form in OPAC
16:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11108 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , undoing receiving does not appear to work (but actually does)
16:05 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11133 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Markup errors in OPAC place hold form HTML
16:05 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11090 - Bootstrap theme: fix CSS problem with suggestions toolbar links
16:05 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 10750: (follow-up) fix capitalization of suggestion form in Bootstrap theme
16:05 jenkins_koha  * Katrin Fischer: Bug 10750: Correct capitalization on suggestion form in OPAC
16:05 jenkins_koha  * Galen Charlton: Bug 11108: fix duplicate display of basket whose receipt has just been cancelled
16:05 jenkins_koha  * Owen Leonard: Bug 11133: fix markup errors in OPAC place hold form HTML
16:05 jenkins_koha  Project master_maria build #183: STILL UNSTABLE in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/master_maria/183/
16:05 mtompset      tcohen: Yes, please!
16:05 gmcharlt      tcohen: that would be handy
16:04 tcohen        gmcharlt: do we need a way to move instances from grs-1 to dom setup?
16:04 mtompset      I'm curious. I saw the notice about git bz attach being busted now. The question I have is, when might it be fixed?
16:03 edveal        After 3rd restart Launchpad is going through a major download. ARGGGG
15:54 jcamins       rambuten: I feel like most times I've been in the public library, at least one computer, if not two or three, has been out of order pending restart.
15:49 rambuten      anyway, just wanted everybody to know there's a business opportunity here
15:47 rambuten      jcamins: back to the "you restart it"---that doesn't really work. The station itself needs to be bullet-proof, neither staff nor I can be resetting 8-12 children's computers all day.
15:46 rambuten      [off]so we commit to paying some unknown amount of money
15:45 rambuten      [off]we just got a renewal notice from AWE, want's us to commit to upgrading four stations and "paying all past due amounts"...but never mentions an amount
15:45 jcamins       That may be. I have never used OLPC.
15:44 rambuten      I could be wrong about that though
15:44 rambuten      I might go check the OLPC again, since it's been a while, but I think (if I recall correctly), that OLPC was more for guided instruction, and not an independent game/learning station
15:43 rambuten      We tried using everything available for Linux, including QIMO and a bunch of others, and honestly you could jam all of them up, and get to some point where the computer was unresponsive
15:42 jcamins       I think OLPC is supposed to do about the same thing... if they manage to screw it up, you restart it and it is back to normal.
15:42 rambuten      Honestly we haven't tried the OLPC, but the one thing AWE does do is make the system bullet proof....
15:41 rambuten      Terribly expensive to purchase, terribly expensive to pay for maintenance and updates.
15:41 jcamins       rambuten: what does that do that the OLPC Linux distribution doesn't?
15:40 rambuten      http://www.awelearning.com/
15:39 mtompset      What is AWE?
15:38 rambuten      anybody interested in coding an alternative to AWE? I just get lividly **** everytime I have to deal with them
15:36 druthb        lol
15:36 mtompset      That sounds more like javelin, because they were pitching tents. ;)
15:35 druthb        yep.  Or that baseball was invented during OT times: "They pitched their tents toward Canaan."
15:35 mtompset      Or the mention of Honda in the Bible, "they were all in one accord"?
15:34 mtompset      Well, Barak was kind of being a sissy and only wanting to go to battle if a hot chick of a prophetess went with him.
15:34 druthb        He also enjoyed pointing out, when we got to the book of Job, about the second-shortest person in the Bible, Bildad the Shuhite (shoe-height...)
15:33 druthb        a-yup.  I had a Bible professor in college make that joke about Jael.  Interesting character, kind of enjoyed the crazy almost-absurdity of the Old Testament.
15:33 mtompset      Liked the picture I posted, druthb? ;)
15:32 druthb        Hi, mtompset. :)
15:31 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
15:20 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11090 - Bootstrap theme: fix CSS problem with suggestions toolbar links <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=b499255d75cfa6cfd4391afa052df9d0a79bfd40> / Bug 10750: (follow-up) fix capitalization of suggestion form in Bootstrap theme <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=bffe5a29c2df60833f805c278e8418e84dd578c2> / Bug 10750: Correct capitalization on suggestion form
15:16 jenkins_koha  Starting build #183 for job master_maria (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #174 6 days 8 hr ago)
15:08 huginn        New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11108: fix duplicate display of basket whose receipt has just been cancelled <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0010c27ea17a515683f5ae01b9e97d4f80e3d55f> / Bug 11133: fix markup errors in OPAC place hold form HTML <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d5677ec67e990982d71c9297d3d5edbcfffc977>
15:05 jenkins_koha  Starting build #1477 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:56 kivilahtio    Also one use-case is setting the filters in such a way that no results are found
13:56 kivilahtio    but basically there is only the "clear filter" -button which appears when the filter is used.
13:54 kivilahtio    The wanings and available buttons change as you fiddle around with the filter
13:54 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6385 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, NEW , All items should optionally be displayed by default
13:54 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Filtering Items based on type in opac-detail.pl
13:54 kivilahtio    oleonard-away: Can you give the final workd regarding bug 11129's UI elements? http://193.65.112.189/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=26484. Also bug 6385 in the mix.
13:48 huginn        rambutan: The current temperature in St Joseph, Missouri is 2.7°C (8:40 AM CDT on October 28, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
13:47 rambutan      @wunder 64507
13:35 tcohen        ok, no rush then
13:34 kf            so a bit stuck right now
13:34 kf            and don't have the data here i used
13:34 kf            just wrote my coworker about that
13:34 tcohen        ok
13:34 kf            yeah but it seems down
13:34 tcohen        do u have some sample db?
13:34 tcohen        don't think so
13:34 kf            are you around a bit later still?
13:34 kf            but i can't really debug now :(
13:33 kf            after applying - none at all
13:33 kf            before i applied the patch, i had lots of link s in my result list
13:33 kf            tcohen: quitesure
13:30 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10948 normal, P5 - low, ---, nunyo, Pushed to Master , Some strings in the authority result list turned out untranslatable
13:30 tcohen        maybe bug 10948
13:29 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10987 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Too many 'see also' and 'usedfor/see from' labels occurences
13:29 tcohen        bug 10987
13:28 tcohen        are you sure you're not confusing the patches with those from the other authorities patch?
13:28 tcohen        i've changed one now and it points to the wrong authid, but no link creation problem
13:27 * druthb      discovered the SSL Server Test tool at https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/, and her woodworking site got an "A"! :)
13:27 kf            and then i tried changing one to have a $9 but that didn't make it work
13:27 kf            i had expected it to show the text links - but it "killed" all links for me
13:27 kf            i had only changed one of various 5xx fields - would that do it?
13:27 kf            tcohen: hmmm that is weird then
13:26 * druthb      dances around happily.
13:22 tcohen        it just tests fr $9 <> ""
13:22 tcohen        nope
13:22 kf            would a nonexistant auhority number in $9 make the link not show up?
13:21 tcohen        i'm typing new authority records right now
13:21 kf            hmmm i might have an idea, but i have to check in my installation
13:21 kf            I had $9, $w, $0 tested i think
13:21 kf            hm i will have to do another test tonight
13:21 kf            no marc21
13:21 tcohen        unimarc kf?
13:15 kf            but yes, i was sure it didn't work ;)
13:14 druthb        o/
13:14 tcohen        oh, that
13:14 kf            i loaded some of our standard authorities
13:14 tcohen        i cannot reproduce kf's problem
13:14 kf            tcohen: maybe it's a data problem
13:12 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10691 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , 5xx not properly linked by authid in authority search result list
13:12 tcohen        can anyone give bug 10691 a fast look? it is signed
13:11 oleonard      Hi to Florida from Ohio
13:11 tcohen        http://snag.gy/fsUlF.jpg
13:10 tcohen        kf: 10691 definitely works for me in the OPAC and staff interfaces
13:05 magnuse       hi from norway to the new Koha librarians!
13:04 nengard       hi #koha - at training in FL say hi to the new Koha librarians :)
13:02 oleonard      That sinking feeling: "this is just going to be an organizational meeting"
12:58 jcamins       You should always use LTS releases.
12:58 agnet         :)
12:58 magnuse       the package install is easy, if you do it on a supported os
12:57 jcamins       agnet: installing Koha on an operating system that wasn't EOLed over a year ago is.
12:57 agnet         :)
12:57 agnet         hehe
12:57 agnet         I thought that installing koha is easy
12:55 agnet         issue
12:55 agnet         to this
12:55 agnet         I know that zebra is my problem but it seems that there is no work around
12:55 agnet         so that then we will upload to another system
12:54 agnet         it only be used for testing purporse
12:54 agnet         I know that zebra is my problem
12:54 marcelr       would not recommend using this system yet
12:54 csharp        agnet: best of luck
12:54 * csharp      moves on to other things
12:54 agnet         I will say that data is being saved
12:54 agnet         at 4:30 I have a client coming over to input data
12:53 marcelr       agnet: zebra is your problem
12:53 agnet         if searching does not work but when I export a marc file works then fine
12:53 agnet         I won't take that chance
12:53 agnet         and as I said when I tried to install it with packages it gave me errors
12:52 wahanui       master is the development branch of koha
12:52 tcohen        kf: master?
12:51 csharp        agnet: as others have said, it will take less time and heartache, and you'll know it's correctly installed
12:51 magnuse       "kohaclone" cries out git in my eyes, not tarball, but that should not matter too much
12:51 csharp        agnet: I'm going to recommend that you install a supported OS (debian/ubuntu LTS) and install from packages
12:51 agnet         nothing more
12:51 agnet         till now only that I have issues
12:50 csharp        agnet: in other words, you probably have more issues than just that
12:50 agnet         ?
12:50 agnet         csharp: and how can I install it
12:50 csharp        agnet: doesn't look like that file got installed then
12:50 marcelr       :)
12:50 tcohen        morning marcelr kf
12:49 agnet         \home\***\koha-zebra-ctl.sh \home\***\koha-dev\bin\koha-zebra-ctl.sh \home\***\kohaclone\blib\SCRIPT_DIR\koha-zebra-ctl.sh \home\***\kohaclone\misc\bin\koha-zebra-ctl.sh
12:48 agnet         and the result is
12:48 agnet         csharp: yes I just did that
12:48 csharp        yep
12:48 magnuse       installing debian and koha from packages would have taken one fifth of all the time this troubleshooting has taken...
12:48 csharp        agnet: did you see my last?
12:47 magnuse       normally by running "/etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start", but there seems to be some weirdness around that file
12:47 agnet         and that is done how??
12:47 magnuse       *starting
12:47 magnuse       srarting zebra properly
12:47 agnet         that is what I need to know
12:46 agnet         ???
12:46 agnet         ok and how can I solve the search issue
12:46 kf            agnet: your search doesn't work - that's the problem - saving and cataloguing should work fine
12:46 marcelr       hi tcohen
12:46 csharp        agnet: do 'sudo updatedb' then 'locate koha-zebra-ctl.sh'
12:45 marcelr       khall around?
12:45 kivilahtio    I can call Koha:: namespace from C4:: right? but not vice vers?
12:45 agnet         just not visible in koha
12:45 agnet         so as you can see data is being saved
12:45 csharp        ah - then the problem is that the directions agnet is following assume a package install
12:45 agnet         16:04:20',51,'CATALOGUING','ADD',2,'biblio'),(64,'2013-10-24 16:05:59',51,'CATALOGUING','MODIFY',2,'BEFORE=>LDR 00600nam a22001697a 4500\n008     131024b        xxu||||| |||| 00| 0 eng d\n020    _a9781842064023\n110    _97\n       _aEquality and Human Rights Commission\n245    _aSex and power 2011 /\n       _cEquality and Human Rights Commission.\n260    _a[United Kingdom :\n       _bEquality and Human Rights Commission,\n       _c2011].\n300    _a
12:44 magnuse       i think /usr/share/koha/*bin*/ will only be present in a packages install?
12:44 agnet         5:29:15',51,'AUTHORITIES','ADD',2,'authority'),(54,'2013-10-24 15:42:30',51,'CATALOGUING','ADD',1,'biblio'),(55,'2013-10-24 15:47:49',51,'AUTHORITIES','ADD',3,'authority'),(56,'2013-10-24 15:49:04',51,'AUTHORITIES','ADD',4,'authority'),(57,'2013-10-24 15:53:29',51,'AUTHORITIES','ADD',5,'authority'),(58,'2013-10-24 15:54:03',51,'AUTHORITIES','ADD',6,'authority'),(59,'2013-10-24 15:57:53',51,'AUTHORITIES','ADD',7,'authority'),(60,'2013-10-24 16:01:12
12:43 * csharp      will leave it to others in the channel whether a full install includes that directory
12:43 agnet         I can show you the data I've obtained
12:43 agnet         it is on Koha-level as data is beinging saved
12:43 csharp        which is why I can help at all ;-)
12:42 csharp        agnet: btw, it's worth pointing out that the problems you're having are on the OS level, not the Koha-level
12:42 * csharp      actually doesn't know, but assumes so
12:42 agnet         it just does not show it when searching
12:42 csharp        agnet: doesn't koha install that directory when it's installed?
12:41 agnet         the problem while I am cataloging is that data is beign saved as I have done a query
12:41 csharp        agnet: you should definitely start again by installing ubuntu 12.04/debian stable and using the packages ;-)
12:41 agnet         it is installed
12:41 wahanui       you are having small problem while I am cataloging
12:41 agnet         i??
12:41 agnet         what do you mean
12:40 csharp        agnet: it looks like koha isn't actually installed then
12:40 agnet         csharp: ls -l /usr/share/koha/bin/ output is  ls: cannot access /usr/share/koha/bin/: No such file or directory
12:40 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11129 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Filtering Items based on type in opac-detail.pl
12:40 oleonard      kivilahtio: Looks like Bug 11129 needs to include a change to updatedatabase.pl. Also, can you please add a test plan if the patch is ready for signoff?
12:38 csharp        agnet: 'ls -l /usr/share/koha/bin/' - is koha-zebra-ctl.sh in the output?
12:37 Oak           installation realated FAQ may be better on top.
12:37 agnet         ?
12:37 Oak           and perhaps, instead of arranging the faqs categories alphabetically, they should be arranged in the F A Q order... know what I mean? :)
12:37 agnet         diff: /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh: No such file or directory diff: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: No such file or directory
12:37 agnet         the csharp: output is
12:36 * csharp      is slowly coming around to the view that git should replace the need for tarballs
12:35 magnuse       ashimema: to make the packages work for a dev setup you need gitify, right?
12:35 jcamins       Oak: agreed.
12:35 agnet         will do
12:35 agnet         ok
12:35 csharp        agnet: enter that on the command line and let us know the output
12:35 Oak           jcamins, then it should say that if you are on a not-debian-not-ubuntu distro then use tarball
12:34 ashimema      packages are great... kohacon13 hackfest taught me a fair few things about packages.. even for a dev environment the packages are now supperb!
12:34 agnet         that line
12:34 agnet         agnet: 'diff /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon'
12:34 oleonard      Okay fair enough
12:34 agnet         csharp: can't understand
12:34 jcamins       oleonard: non-apt-based distros.
12:34 kivilahtio    oleonard: I <3 packages
12:34 kivilahtio    oleonard: no
12:34 csharp        agnet: 'diff /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon'
12:34 oleonard      Saying "Installing from tarball or git is much better for developers" is no longer accurate. Actually is installing from tarball *ever* better for anyone?
12:33 ashimema      ls -lah /etc/init.d
12:33 * Oak         goes to watch birds on trees
12:33 magnuse       that sounds weird
12:33 agnet         ?
12:33 agnet         >
12:33 agnet         what does that mean
12:33 agnet         I've got update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon: file does not exist
12:33 agnet         and when I did sudo update-rc.d koha-zebra-daemon defaults
12:33 agnet         ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon': File exists
12:33 agnet         I've got
12:33 agnet         sudo ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
12:33 agnet         when I did
12:31 Oak           http://koha-community.org/faqs/debian-packages-tarball-install-koha/
12:31 Oak           okay not screaming
12:30 * Oak         goes to check if "should i install from tarball of from package" in the website FAQ or not. if it's not there Oak will come and scream.
12:30 magnuse       something like "/etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start" should start zebra, i think?
12:29 agnet         $ sudo ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
12:29 agnet         is it this
12:29 jcamins       There is koha-zebra-ctl.sh script.
12:28 petter        belive me, it will take much less time than you allready have spent
12:28 Oak           \o
12:28 agnet         I don't have the time to install the package one from scratch
12:28 jcamins       agnet: in the instructions for using the tarball you'll find instructions for starting Zebra.
12:28 petter        everything is easier
12:28 petter        please do yourself a favour and install the package
12:28 agnet         yes
12:27 petter        so agnet
12:27 petter        right
12:27 petter        ah
12:27 jcamins       petter: that is package-only.
12:27 agnet         ?
12:27 agnet         koha instance name what do you mean
12:27 petter        zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/{{your koha instance name}}/koha-conf.xml
12:26 agnet         Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done idzebra-2.0 is already the newest version. idzebra-2.0 set to manually installed. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   libaccess-bridge-java-jni libaccess-bridge-java flashplugin-downloader Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 24 not upgraded.
12:26 agnet         as I've got this message
12:26 agnet         I know it is installed
12:25 agnet         can you give me the code to start zebra
12:25 agnet         before I do this
12:25 agnet         ok.. let's make it our last resort
12:25 kivilahtio    csharp: ++
12:25 csharp        agnet: I would recommend joining #ubuntu on freenode if you need help upgrading ;-)
12:25 agnet         for testing only
12:25 kivilahtio    agnet: Run 12.04 inside a virtual machine then
12:25 oleonard      Hi #koha
12:24 * csharp      agrees, fwiw - EOL upgrades are possible but not desirable
12:24 agnet         I am running koha for a short period of time
12:24 kivilahtio    11.10 is not a supported version
12:24 kivilahtio    others might think otherwise
12:24 kivilahtio    agnet: you need to reainstall your linux, I don't recommend upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04
12:24 ashimema_away matter of opinion.. if your running koha for a live environment you should use a long term support server.. (i.e. Debian (Wheezy for new installs, Squeeze for existing installs) or Ubuntu Server Edition (12.04 for new installs))
12:24 agnet         I know it is installed
12:24 agnet         ?
12:23 agnet         how can I start it up
12:23 petter        so, zebra is not running
12:23 agnet         ****   21841  0.0  0.0   4468   776 pts/1    S+   13:22   0:00 grep --color=auto zebra
12:23 agnet         it said
12:23 agnet         when I ran px aux | grep Zebra
12:23 csharp        agnet: 11.10 is long dead
12:22 kivilahtio    agnet: 12.04 from packages is your ticket
12:22 kivilahtio    agnet: that is a problem
12:22 petter        I dont know, but i'd upgrade if I where you
12:22 agnet         ?
12:22 agnet         and is that a problem
12:21 agnet         ok
12:21 petter        yes
12:21 agnet         ?
12:21 agnet         does this mean that my version is 11.10
12:21 petter        ah
12:21 magnuse       debian is the main target, but i think we aim for it to work on ubuntu too
12:21 agnet         Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 11.10 Release:	11.10 Codename:	oneiric
12:20 agnet         I got
12:20 agnet         when I ran lsb_release -a
12:20 csharp        yeah, I was just wondering about the minor dependency differences that crop up and whether the packages accounted for that
12:20 petter        ps aux | grep zebra
12:19 petter        ubuntu use the debian package system, so if it works on debian it should work on ubuntu
12:19 agnet         ?
12:19 agnet         also how can I check if Zebra is running
12:19 agnet         cool
12:19 csharp        so does the koha project officially support ubuntu? or just debian and if it works on Ubuntu that's cool?
12:19 kivilahtio    i got this result "Description:    Linux Mint 15 Olivia" But still Koha works for me!
12:18 petter        haha, I just googled it myself :)
12:18 agnet         \home\***\kohaclone\misc\migration_tools\rebuild_zebra.pl  -b -a -z  and it worked.. no errors where given
12:18 kivilahtio    wow petter! How can you remember that!
12:18 petter        lsb_release -a
12:18 agnet         also I ran
12:18 agnet         ?
12:18 agnet         how can I check it out
12:18 agnet         I don't know what my version is
12:17 kivilahtio    agnet: Well my info is 1 month old on 13.04
12:17 kivilahtio    13.04
12:16 kivilahtio    agnet: not on 13.03
12:16 kivilahtio    works fine on Ubuntu 12.04
12:15 magnuse       try the packages again, and report your errors here
12:15 agnet         ubuntu
12:15 agnet         as I tried it 3 weeks
12:15 petter        what linux distro are you on?
12:15 agnet         don't remember what they where
12:15 agnet         it gave me errors
12:15 petter        how come?
12:15 petter        http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_ubuntu_-_packages
12:15 agnet         I tried to install with packaged version but as I said I was not able to install
12:14 kivilahtio    not sure if he is still experiencing them
12:14 kivilahtio    but our programmer has experienced a lot of problems with the Makefile-variant
12:14 petter        yes.. unless you have a very good reason, use the packages
12:13 kivilahtio    agnet: For me there has been no issues with the packaged version
12:13 kivilahtio    agnet: I think you should try that
12:13 petter        agnet: if you instead install koha from the debian package it will most likely work out of the box, without any fiddling
12:12 agnet         ok thanks let me check it out
12:12 kivilahtio    but sudoing stuff can seriously break stuff up
12:12 kivilahtio    then escalate priviledges
12:12 kivilahtio    well maybe try without sudo and see what happens
12:12 kivilahtio    I should read it
12:12 agnet         hehe.. I installed it with makefile.PL
12:12 kivilahtio    http://www.amazon.com/Linux-System-Administration-Handbook-Edition/dp/0131480057
12:11 kivilahtio    there is a great book everybody should read
12:11 kivilahtio    I don't know, it depends on how you installed Koha
12:11 agnet         yea and I don't know nothing about linux
12:11 kivilahtio    the bad thing with Linux is that you actually need to read a lot of stuff
12:11 agnet         ?
12:11 agnet         ok and run sudo before or not
12:11 kivilahtio    \home\***\kohaclone\misc\migration_tools\rebuild_zebra.pl --help
12:11 kivilahtio    or even
12:10 kivilahtio    \home\***\kohaclone\misc\migration_tools\rebuild_zebra.pl  -b -a -z
12:10 kivilahtio    you are getting there
12:10 agnet         ??
12:09 agnet         \home\***\kohaclone\misc\migration_tools\rebuild_zebra.pl
12:09 wahanui       it has been said that this one is cool as long as someone *wants* acknowledgement
12:09 agnet         or this one
12:08 agnet         $KOHA_PATH/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z &> /d$
12:08 agnet         Use existing SDKs
12:08 wahanui       well, this one is cool as long as someone *wants* acknowledgement
12:08 agnet         this one
12:08 kivilahtio    inside the crontab definition
12:07 kivilahtio    up
12:07 kivilahtio    20 rows
12:07 agnet         can't find it
12:07 kivilahtio    here on this IRC
12:07 kivilahtio    well you just wrote it up yourself
12:07 agnet         can you give me once again the command
12:07 kivilahtio    try running the Zebra command outside the crontab
12:07 agnet         when I tried to start it up could not work
12:06 kivilahtio    agnet: If your crontabs has those definitions and your zebra is running you should have no issues
12:06 agnet         ??/
12:06 agnet         hello
12:06 marcelr       think about testing too
12:05 kivilahtio    marcelr: I would like to keep from unnecessarily saturating the sysprefs space
12:05 marcelr       true
12:05 kivilahtio    marcelr: But I feel like Koha has enough sysprefs and sometimes it is hard to stay on top of all of them
12:05 kivilahtio    marcelr: I am not sure
12:05 marcelr       one syspref would be nicer than two?
12:04 kivilahtio    marcelr: But I will make a separate syspref for both sides, but the bug actually is only about OPAC, so I will stick to that for now :)
12:04 marcelr       probably
12:04 agnet         ???
12:04 kivilahtio    marcelr: I think the syspref should be maxItemsOnDetail
12:00 marcelr       kivilahtio: why OPACmaxItemsOnDetail if you want to use it in the staff client? (late reply)
12:00 agnet         ???
11:58 agnet         */5 * * * *     $KOHA_PATH/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z &> /d$
11:58 agnet         #The cronjobs -- $KOHA_PATH is defined in /etc/environment, and gets set when $
11:58 agnet         I've got this
11:58 agnet         when I run crontab -e
11:58 agnet         yes I have created a koha user
11:57 magnuse       did you create a koha user?
11:57 magnuse       agnet: looks like you have a git install, then
11:55 agnet         \home\***\kohaclone\misc\migration_tools\rebuild_zebra.pl
11:55 agnet         \home\***\kohaclone\blib\SCRIPT_NONDEV_DIR\migration_tools\rebuild_zebra.pl
11:54 magnuse       agnet: try both "sudo crontab -e" and "crontab -e" and see if it says anything about rebuild_zebra.pl
11:54 agnet         I've got this message
11:54 agnet         when I did the sudo find / -name rebuild_zebra.pl
11:54 kivilahtio    not sure if you are installing from packages or source
11:53 kivilahtio    with koha-user i mean the user you used to install koha
11:52 kivilahtio    */5 * * * *     $KOHA_PATH/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z &> /dev/null
11:52 kivilahtio    # The cronjobs -- $KOHA_PATH is defined in /etc/environment, and gets set when this process runs.
11:52 kivilahtio    should be something like this
11:51 agnet         with sudo??/
11:51 kivilahtio    as the koha-user
11:51 kivilahtio    agnet: crontab -e
11:51 agnet         and the command for the cron job
11:51 magnuse       run "sudo find / -name rebuild_zebra.pl" to figure out where it is
11:51 agnet         can you give me the command how I can run run rebuild_zebra.pl
11:50 magnuse       did you set up a cron job for it?
11:50 agnet         pls
11:50 agnet         can you give me the command
11:50 magnuse       agnet: did you find and run rebuild_zebra.pl?
11:50 agnet         I don't know if it is running sorry but I know it is installed
11:50 kivilahtio    agnet: I think you need to go read the startup scripts and see what they do
11:50 agnet         yes zebra is running
11:49 wahanui       i already had it that way, kivilahtio.
11:49 kivilahtio    are you sure Zebra is running?
11:49 kivilahtio    wow I have no idea
11:48 agnet         it is not visible
11:48 agnet         but when I search for the entered data from the Koha
11:47 agnet         data is saved in database
11:47 agnet         I have a problem where when I catalog
11:47 kivilahtio    hi agnet
11:47 agnet         hi
11:47 kivilahtio    I think this should work in both the OPAC and staff client
11:47 kivilahtio    Wow I just asked where should I put the "OPACmaxItemsOnDetail" :D
11:46 kivilahtio    I feel like I have hit the cliché stone every time Wahanui steps up to speak
11:45 wahanui       Any suggestions are welcome.
11:45 kivilahtio    Any suggestions?
11:45 kivilahtio    I have seen the syspref duplicated but I am not so sure if it is a good thing to define the same thing in many places. OFC Staff might have different needs
11:45 agnet         ??
11:45 agnet         help
11:45 agnet         need heko
11:44 kivilahtio    or should I just duplicate one syspref for both modules? But don't you think we have enough sysprefs already?
11:43 kivilahtio    any place for a syspref which limits the display for both OPAC and cataloguing module?
11:43 kivilahtio    opac-detail.pl and catalogue/detail.pl
11:43 kivilahtio    This affects http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=26484  &&  http://193.65.112.189/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=26484
11:42 kivilahtio    Circulation or Cataloguing or OPAC?
11:42 kivilahtio    Any idea where should I put the "OPACmaxItemsOnDetail" syspref?
11:42 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6385 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, NEW , All items should optionally be displayed by default
11:42 kivilahtio    bug 6385
11:32 agnet         ???
11:01 agnet         khall do you know how to solve it
11:00 agnet         ok thanks
10:29 ashimema      hopefully somone else will come along and be able to offer assistance.
10:29 ashimema      not sure what the next step is really.. you've got zebra installed, yet the startup script isn't finding it.
10:29 ashimema      sorry agnet, i'm caught with work again now.
10:26 agnet         ???
10:12 agnet         ?
10:05 agnet         ?
10:05 agnet         what is the next step then
10:05 agnet         good
10:05 agnet         ok
10:04 ashimema      That's kinda good.. mean zebra is infact installed
10:04 agnet         ?
10:04 agnet         is that a good sign
10:04 agnet         Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done idzebra-2.0 is already the newest version. idzebra-2.0 set to manually installed. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   libaccess-bridge-java-jni libaccess-bridge-java flashplugin-downloader Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 24 not upgraded.
10:04 agnet         is
10:04 agnet         and the message that I got
10:03 agnet         I did that just now
10:02 ashimema      i'm back now.
10:02 kf            sudo apt-get ...
10:02 kf            try with sudo
10:02 agnet         E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
10:02 agnet         when I tried to type that command it gave me that error
10:01 agnet         E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
09:59 ashimema      i gotta restart.. brb
09:59 ashimema      try 'apt-get install idzebra-2.0'
09:58 ashimema      sounds like zebra was never installed.
09:54 agnet         when I typed the above it gave me error: command not found
09:53 agnet         sudo /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon start
09:53 agnet         error: command not found
09:53 wahanui       koha-zebra-daemon is, like, in init.d, linked to koha-zebra-ctl.sh in oleonard's koha bin directory
09:53 agnet         koha-zebra-daemon
09:52 sophie_m      lds : pour archi nantes alors, c'est quoi la solution ?
09:52 agnet         let me check
09:51 ashimema      runing it with 'sudo /etc/init.d/script-name start'
09:51 ashimema      there should be a startup script in there..
09:51 ashimema      what zebra related files do you have in /etc/init.d
09:48 agnet         it?
09:48 agnet         so how can I runi t
09:48 agnet         I told you what the error is: command not found
09:48 ashimema_away if you got nothing back.. then that probably means zebra is not running at all.
09:48 kf            agnet: if you don't tell us the error message, it's hard to say what went wrong
09:47 agnet         that did not work for me
09:47 ashimema_away agnet: the command I sent you
09:46 petter        hi katrin!
09:46 kf            hi petter :)
09:45 magnuse       :-)
09:45 petter        hei magnus!
09:45 * magnuse     waves to petter
09:43 agnet         ?
09:43 agnet         how can I check if zebra is running
09:41 ashimema_away is zebra running, whats the output of: 'ps aux | grep zebra'
09:39 agnet         \etc\init.d\koha-zebra-daemon does exists
09:38 agnet         don't remember the error sorry
09:37 kivilahtio    hi petter!
09:37 petter        hi all
09:23 ashimema      what version of ubuntu are you running?
09:22 ashimema      which bit gav errors.. the apt-get?
09:19 agnet         I don't recall what they where
09:19 agnet         it gave me errors
09:18 ashimema      can you be more specific of what wouldn't work?
09:18 agnet         would not work
09:18 ashimema      hmm.. now that is strange.. not working with packages.
09:18 ashimema      really.. an 'apt-get intsall koha-common', followed by 'koha-create --database name' takes ages.?
09:17 agnet         it wouldn't work
09:17 agnet         when I tried that
09:17 ashimema      with the packages, everything should 'just work'.
09:17 agnet         to do that
09:17 agnet         it would take me ages
09:17 ashimema      agnet: being mean, I would probably suggest you go back a few steps and install from packages, and use the current db for your data..  a clean install, with your current dataset.
09:14 kf            ;)
09:14 ashimema      hmm.. I have no idea where stuff ends up on a standard install.. :s
09:14 kf            I took some nice photos of you...
09:13 ashimema      haha.. nice work.
09:13 kf            sounds good
09:13 ashimema      I'll also add the bootstrap followup.. I'll add the followup to tidy up the code between staff and opac along with add the bootstrap theme supprt ;)
09:12 kf            i treid to cure my jet lag by reading qa mails... didn't make me sleepy enough... so i started doing qa... ;)
09:12 kf            aaaah, sorry, i forgot i did one
09:12 ashimema      kf: all you followups seems good.. I just need to sign them off ;)
09:11 ashimema      I'll usbmit a patch ;)
09:11 ashimema      hmm, that install doc needs some updating.. it doesn't acutally make it clear how to use the koha packages ;)
09:10 agnet         let me check
09:10 kf            ashimema: ohoh
09:10 kf            if you check the first path in the command, is the file there?
09:10 kf            which installaton instructions did you follow?
09:10 wahanui       standard is, like, not so practical for that
09:10 agnet         standard
09:09 kf            standard single or dev?
09:09 kf            when you installed koha, what kind of install did you pick when running the makefile?
09:09 agnet         the error is file or directory not found
09:09 agnet         that just a copy and paste
09:09 agnet         yes 451 is the line number
09:08 kf            also the 451 is a line number - that wuld not work
09:08 kf            did you verify that the file is there in /usr/share...?
09:08 ashimema      I see you've been attacking bz over the weekend.. lots of followups for you this monring;
09:07 agnet         and it did not work
09:07 agnet         yes i tried that this command sudo ln -s /usr/share/koha/bin/koha-zebra-ctl.sh \ 451         /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon
09:07 ashimema      mornin' kf
09:07 ashimema      It's hard for any of us to help without knowing what you've already actually tried.
09:07 kf            good morning ashimema :)
09:07 ashimema      agnet: you didn't verify if you followed all the instructions within the link magnuse pointed at..
09:02 agnet         ???
08:59 marcelr       wb kf
08:59 * kf          waves
08:44 agnet         so how can I solve this issue
08:39 magnuse       impossible to tell based on what you have said so far :-)
08:38 agnet         ?
08:38 agnet         so does that meani that I don't have zebra installed
08:37 magnuse       that should be the script you use to start and stop zebra
08:36 agnet         \ etc\init.d\koha-zebra-daemon
08:36 magnuse       ok, bad guess then
08:36 agnet         error: file or directory not found
08:33 magnuse       i'm not very familiar with the file layout after a tarball install, but it might be something like /usr/share/koha/misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl
08:33 magnuse       then locate the script misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl and run that with the proper arguments
08:31 magnuse       agnet: make sure you followed all the steps here: http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.ubuntu;h=60f5ed456c30e4cec3acb678ceec713924172c3d;hb=HEAD
08:30 agnet         I rebuild the Zebra if I installed it with tarball
08:30 agnet         so how can
08:27 agnet         ubuntu
08:27 magnuse       agnet: which operating system did you install on?
08:26 magnuse       agnet: the "koha-*" commands will only work if you installed using the packages (which are the preferred way to install)
08:19 agnet         How can continue please?
08:12 agnet         My Library
08:12 agnet         for exampla
08:12 agnet         sudo koha-rebuild-zebra instancename
08:12 magnuse       bonjour gaetan_B
08:12 magnuse       agnet: which command was not found?
08:12 wahanui       hello, gaetan_B
08:12 gaetan_B      hello
08:12 agnet         ?
08:12 agnet         what to do
08:08 agnet         command not found
08:03 rangi         http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL;h=ffe69aeabc5524a8007d236f4b9755b5becbce68;hb=HEAD#l130
08:01 agnet         etc
08:01 agnet         I use makefile.pl
08:01 rangi         what version of koha?
08:01 rangi         for the section on setting up the cron jobs
08:00 rangi         how did you install koha, if you used the packages it sets it up all for you, if not you will need to look at the INSTALL file
08:00 agnet         ?
08:00 agnet         and on what user
08:00 agnet         how can I make sure that zebra is running
07:59 agnet         other searches meaning?
07:59 rangi         other searches are working?
07:59 rangi         or if it is running, its running as the wrong user (permissions problem)
07:59 rangi         most likely you dont have rebuild_zebra set up to run
07:59 wahanui       well, do you think it is needed for icu?
07:59 agnet         what do you think it is
07:58 agnet         It does not show
07:58 agnet         but when I try to search for it from the system
07:57 agnet         it is being saved in the database
07:57 agnet         so when I am entering data
07:57 magnuse       no problem!
07:57 agnet         sorry for that
07:57 agnet         hehe
07:57 agnet         sure
07:57 magnuse       agnet: if you describe your problem people here will at least be able to tell if they can help you ;-)
07:57 wahanui       it has been said that the problem is it's human beings doing it. Rebuild your indexes.
07:57 rangi         what's the problem?
07:56 agnet         ?
07:56 agnet         can you help me
07:55 agnet         I am having small problem while I am cataloging
07:55 agnet         hi all
07:44 magnuse       rangi: cool
07:43 reiveune      hello
07:41 rangi         magnuse: i think thats it
07:41 cait          cya al in a bit
07:41 magnuse       rangi: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/KohaCon13_searchengine_plan ?
07:40 cait          ok, going to work... have to i guess :)
07:40 cait          hi alex_a :)
07:40 alex_a        bonjour
07:39 marcelr       and magnuse
07:38 magnuse       hiya marcelr
07:38 marcelr       hi cait
07:38 cait          hi marcelr
07:37 marcelr       hi #koha
07:35 rangi         paul and i discussed a plan and wrote it up on the wiki
07:34 rangi         not much
07:33 cait          rangi: ?
07:33 cait          not sure
07:33 magnuse       anyone got an idea how much work it would be?
07:33 magnuse       ah, too bad. crowdfunding?
07:31 cait          i think we got stuck at the: now we know how to do it, but who is going to fund it part
07:31 cait          not yet
07:27 magnuse       is there a bug for that?
07:26 magnuse       w00t!
07:26 cait          magnuse: real real facets!
07:26 cait          oh yes
07:25 magnuse       another worthy topic :-)
07:25 magnuse       ah
07:25 rangi         we got sidetracked fixing how we use zebra
07:24 magnuse       oh rangi: did you and tcohen get around to squashing the encoding problem at it's source? i have not been following bz closely enough lately...
07:17 * magnuse     waves to cait
07:17 * cait        waves to magnuse
07:17 cait          hehe
07:17 rangi         hehe
07:16 * magnuse     selfishly enjoys heving people back in their proper timezones ;-)
07:14 magnuse       kia ora rangi!
07:14 rangi         hi magnuse
07:14 * magnuse     waves frantically
05:28 huginn        cait: The operation succeeded.
05:28 cait          @later tell tcohen - I found no way to make the links show up :(
05:28 cait          morning
04:52 mtompset      Have a great day, #koha.
04:43 mtompset      That applies cleanly.
04:42 mtompset      Ah, you have a depends. good.
04:41 mtompset      dpk1: 11078 doesn't apply to origin/master.
04:19 dpk1          (also combined the multiple patches in each but to one consolidated patch)
04:19 dpk1          Yes, I have myself sorted out now.  Patches have been submitted and should address all known requests.
02:54 jcamins       dpk1: git checkout -b newbranchname origin/master
02:02 dpk1          Behaving more like I would expect now.
02:02 dpk1          Ah.  It would help if I could remember the correct names for the branches!
01:59 * dpk1        struggling with Git101
01:58 dpk1          git diff origin/master gives the correct result.  How do I switch to a different and pre-existing branch.  It does not appear to be branch or checkout.
01:54 mtompset      I don't see why a "git diff origin/master" wouldn't help you see if your code got mixed.
01:54 mtompset      well, you should know your code well enough.
01:53 dpk1          Also is there a way to see that branch rebuild-locking is depending on the changes in rebuild-index?
01:52 dpk1          Commited teach one in a separate branch.  Started with origin/master.  branch rebuild-index.  apply index daemon changes. commit.  branch rebuild-locking. apply locking changes. commit.   How do I revert my working files to origin/master or back to rebuild-index (without the locking changes)?
01:50 mtompset      and that's what that means.
01:49 mtompset      when you switch branches.
01:49 mtompset      if not, then you probably get "M ... file name"
01:49 mtompset      did you commit or stash the changes?
01:49 mtompset      Ah...
01:49 dpk1          In git, how do I get my tree to revert to origin/master when I switch branches.  The contents of my modified files seems to remain.
01:49 mtompset      Nice to meet you online. :)
01:48 mtompset      AH! doug!
01:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11078 enhancement, P4, ---, dpk, Failed QA , rebuild_zebra.pl can lose updates due to race condition during full rebuilds
01:48 mtompset      bug 11078
01:48 huginn        04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6435 major, P5 - low, ---, dpk, Failed QA , [ENH] Added daemon mode parameters to rebuild_zebra.pl
01:48 mtompset      bug 6435
01:48 dpk1          So far so go (and the final result works well).
01:48 dpk1          I have think I have two patches now (one for each bug) where on depend on the other.
01:47 dpk1          I have been struggling with git a bit to build a better set of patches for 6435 and 11078 to keep them from getting tangled.
01:46 dpk1          hi
01:46 mtompset      Greetings, dpk1
01:42 dpk1          gmcharit: yt?
00:39 mtompset      Greetings, #koha.
00:20 huginn        tcohen: The operation succeeded.
00:20 tcohen        @later tell kf are you sure about the 5xx patch failing?