Time  Nick        Message
21:35 Joels68     Hello Koha community!
21:07 mtompset    By year, I suppose?
20:56 bag         they have more than one record with that # of high items
20:56 mtompset    That's a serious collection!
20:56 mtompset    Wow.
20:55 bag         sorry 2/wk
20:55 bag         pretty much - but I think it's biweekly
20:54 mtompset    40 years of weekly magazines?
20:54 mtompset    How can you possibly have 1700 items on a single record?
20:52 mtompset    1700 items on a single record?!
20:30 bag         actually I always felt that the leader just got too damn confused with it.  even though we've stripped the items out now.  But I'm excited to try some of these new changes
20:30 oleonard    See y'all later #koha
20:29 bag         pianohacker: too big :)
20:29 pianohacker bag: how big is that in USMARC/MARC21?
20:28 pianohacker holy god
20:16 bag         I got it to index when it was in the 1500 range but then after that (not sure if it was changes with zebra or koha) but I haven't had luck since it got bigger than that
20:15 oleonard    Good lord.
20:15 bag         it's a real thing oleonard
20:14 oleonard    Is that a real thing, or a monstrosity someone created out of pure evil?
20:13 bag         a record with 1700 items attached to it :)
20:12 bag         I've got the perfect record in mind for that - gonna go have some fun and see what happens :)
20:12 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11096 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Koha cannot retreive big records from Zebra
20:12 bag         ohh bug 11096
20:08 oleonard    Digital? Crazy talk.
20:08 * jcamins   leaves work early.
20:08 jcamins     It's unlikely it started out in hardcopy.
20:08 jcamins     *ask
20:08 jcamins     Or as Nancy for a digital copy, I suppose.
20:07 jcamins     I was the second-to-last person to arrive, after all.
20:07 jcamins     Probably. I'll get someone to scan it for me.
20:06 oleonard    Yeah you didn't get one? I wonder if they ran out before you arrived?
20:04 jcamins     There was a contact list?
20:03 oleonard    Was there really someone from Plano at KohaCon? I someone on the contact list.
19:55 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10774 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Allow individual holds to be suspended and resumed from the OPAC
19:55 oleonard    Bug 10774
19:55 oleonard    Hey, a signoff from a KohaCon participant!
19:54 jcamins     "The instructions are to just add water and put it in the freezer."
19:54 jcamins     Haha- on page four someone admits to using dehydrated ice cubes.
19:53 maximep     ever. :p
19:52 maximep     that ice cues recipe is the best thing.
19:51 mtompset    Greetings, pianohacker.
19:49 pianohacker sure bot
19:49 wahanui     oleonard is probably not really here.  He said so.  He did!
19:49 pianohacker hey oleonard.
19:45 oleonard    Hi pianohacker
19:36 * mtompset  grumbles about networking issues.
19:36 mtompset    That wasn't fun.
19:15 wahanui     goodnight cait. You'll be back.
19:15 cait        night all
19:15 cait        have o sleep i guess
19:14 talljoy     My grandma died and took the recipe with her. You are a life saver!
19:14 oleonard    Don't forget the photos
19:14 talljoy     comments are funny!
19:10 jcamins     In which case you should do it later.
19:10 jcamins     Errr... unless you work in an open plan office.
19:10 jcamins     Actually, everyone should read the reviews.
19:10 cait        but I do know how to make ice cubes
19:10 jcamins     Read the reviews.
19:10 cait        jcamins: thx for thinking about me
19:09 cait        hm?
19:09 jcamins     cait: http://www.food.com/recipe/ice-cubes-420398
19:02 bag         nope
19:01 mtompset    tcohen couldn't take the suspense. ;)
18:59 talljoy     cue suspensful music
18:59 druthb      Two geeks enter, one geek leaves!
18:58 mtompset    Sounds like a Lord of the Flies type experiment.
18:58 mtompset    druthb: Thunderdome pre-teen boys?
18:58 talljoy     heh
18:58 bag         I've fooled you then :D
18:58 * talljoy   knows who signs her paycheck...
18:58 talljoy     you is smart
18:58 druthb      :P
18:57 talljoy     oh, i'm sure you would have survived
18:57 bag         I wouldn't be here :P
18:57 bag         or it could work brillinatly
18:57 jcamins     I'm not sure how well that would work.
18:56 bag         HA
18:56 jcamins     lol
18:56 talljoy     lol
18:56 druthb      I'm of a firm belief that we should nail boys in a barrel when they turn 10, with five years worth of food.  If they live to 18, they can be considered smart enough to be called "human".  If they don't, the gene pool will be protected from them.
18:56 khall       yo
18:56 huginn      mtompset: khall was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 25 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <khall> heh, I've been working on those gummy bears!
18:56 mtompset    @seen khall
18:56 mtompset    khall: You here?
18:56 bag         heh
18:55 mtompset    I think I understand. :)
18:55 talljoy     nuf said
18:55 talljoy     well, they are mine and i love them dearly.  but they are teen boys.
18:54 jcamins     Oh, no, you said "teen boys," I just inferred.
18:54 jcamins     talljoy: didn't you say that?
18:54 mtompset    Such loving, motherly comments, talljoy. ;)
18:54 mtompset    greetings, #koha.
18:54 talljoy     and they smell
18:53 oleonard    :D
18:53 talljoy     :-D
18:53 talljoy     the feeling is mutual.
18:53 talljoy     i have teen boys, i prefer to not be seen in public with them.
18:53 oleonard    She's 10 now
18:53 talljoy     oleonard how old is your oldest?
18:52 talljoy     heh
18:52 bag         talljoy: :P
18:52 talljoy     smoking cigarettes
18:52 talljoy     singing "like a virgin"
18:52 talljoy     unfortunately i always picture bridget jones "edge of reason" and figure i'll end up in a woman's thai prison
18:52 bag         we are just beginning to plan out where and what we want to do
18:52 bag         oh cool I am going to ask you some questions in another month or two on where you went and all that
18:51 oleonard    Wow that's awesome. My wife and I went to Thailand with our oldest in summer of 2012 and really enjoyed it.
18:51 talljoy     i am jealous, fo shiz
18:51 talljoy     lol
18:50 bag         can't wait to have "food" :P
18:50 bag         Actually going to Hong Kong first to play baseball and then vacation in Thailand for Christmas and New Years with Sonja and Ginny
18:50 oleonard    That's great bag--vacation?
18:49 bag         I'll be in thailand for christmas and can't wait to have real thai food - which I'm sure they call just plan old "food"
18:49 talljoy     thai!!
18:49 talljoy     do it!
18:49 bag         well I got the buzz too and was debating on thai for tonight
18:48 oleonard    :D
18:48 talljoy     dude stop harshing my and oleanard's thai buzz
18:48 bag         still debating on what is for dinner tonight - I've got my parents coming into town
18:48 talljoy     mmmmmm
18:48 talljoy     panang curry
18:48 oleonard    mmmmm thai curry
18:48 druthb      I'm on the donut still, but I'm going this afternoon to a tire shop.  we'll see how expensive it is...
18:47 talljoy     i'm having thai food tonight.  the closest i can get to curry today
18:47 talljoy     mmmmm indian food
18:47 talljoy     no kidding
18:47 * oleonard  hopes the leftovers were okay
18:46 bag         yeah druthb that sounded pretty brutal
18:46 talljoy     o/ druthb how is your car?
18:17 druthb      :)
18:03 cait        which he does greatly :)
18:00 tcohen      and i told him many of you gongratulated him for his job
18:00 tcohen      we talked a lot about how kohacon13 went
17:59 cait        what did you tell him? :)
17:59 cait        :)
17:59 tcohen      bernardo was pleased to have news from you druthb and cait
17:58 tcohen      pre-kohacon13 days and the conference itself got me away from that tasks
17:58 tcohen      i want to release 3.12.6 soon
17:58 cait        :)
17:58 tcohen      indeed!
17:57 cait        you were keen to get back to koha?
17:57 cait        aah
17:57 tcohen      (just because i wanted, had the day free)
17:57 cait        not yet, still tidying up :)
17:57 cait        hi tcohen :)
17:57 tcohen      back at work!
17:57 tcohen      hi druthb, cait
17:17 cait        almost home too
17:17 cait        ah rangi in auckland now
17:13 * cait      waves again - old hard drive in laptop, all good
17:07 reiveune    bye
16:55 druthb      home safe?
16:55 wahanui     i guess tcohen is obsessed with packages' scripts
16:55 druthb      tcohen!
16:55 busla       ahh ok, thanks
16:49 jcamins     And you'll need to modify the paths a bit to make sure that your koha.psgi file points to the right directory for staff client/OPAC.
16:48 jcamins     Probably /usr/share/koha/
16:48 jcamins     busla: you'll need to replace /srv with the actual location of your Koha installation.
16:48 oleonard    I don't know for sure since I don't know that documentation
16:47 oleonard    busla: Sounds like you'll have to simply replace "/srv/koha" with the actual path to Koha when you run the scripts?
16:46 oleonard    Ignore wahanui busla, he's a bot
16:46 busla       sorry
16:46 busla       oops :-)
16:46 wahanui     i already had it that way, busla.
16:46 busla       my /srv folder is empty
16:46 busla       "This instructions assume that your Koha checkout is /srv/koha. If it's in some other location, you have to change /srv/koha to correct folder throughout all scripts below."
16:45 busla       just wondering about this documentation in Plack
16:36 oleonard    Good luck!
16:34 cait        ok, time to switch back to my other hard drive - wish me luck, i am going to have surgery on the laptop
16:30 cait        bag: yeah... looking forward to going into work monday... :)
16:30 huginn      cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.7°C (6:30 PM CEST on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
16:30 cait        @wunder Konstanz
16:23 bag         yeesh that's a lot of email
16:23 cait        eek
16:23 cait        16 pages with 100 mails each
16:23 jcamins     I think maybe celery is the best option.
16:23 * cait      shouldn't have looked at work mail
16:23 bag         speaking of food I think I need to go get something to nibble on
16:22 bag         oh fennel is a good idea cait
16:22 cait        fennel?
16:22 cait        garlic? :)
16:21 bag         celery?  could that replace onions?
16:20 ashimema    mmm.. tomatoes.
16:20 jcamins     I really like the tart idea, but what do I put in it to replace the onions?
16:20 oleonard    Ah, the simple pleasures in life
16:19 wahanui     I have three pounds!
16:19 jcamins     tomatoes
16:19 wahanui     OK, oleonard.
16:19 oleonard    wahanui: tomatoes is <reply> I have three pounds!
16:18 jcamins     I have three pounds!
16:18 wahanui     jcamins: excuse me?
16:18 jcamins     wahanui: untrue!
16:18 wahanui     tomatoes are out, as I have none.
16:18 jcamins     Ooh, tomatoes.
16:18 jcamins     She's also likely to develop a tomato allergy as she gets older.
16:17 oleonard    that must be a tough one
16:17 jcamins     Wait, father.
16:17 jcamins     oleonard: neither had I, before I met this person. She and her mother are both allergic.
16:17 * oleonard  has never heard of someone being allergic to onions
16:09 jcamins     I'd make this: http://foodbabbles.com/2012/02/endive-pear-chevre-tart/ except that my guest is allergic to onions and shallots.
16:09 druthb      oleonard++ #new Reno slogan
16:08 jcamins     What do you serve?
16:08 druthb      cait!
16:08 jcamins     Entertaining for lunch is really difficult.
16:07 jcamins     Apparently the motto was the result of a competition for first-graders.
16:06 cait        ?
16:06 jcamins     oleonard: that's because you're not a first-grader.
16:06 oleonard    Oh by the way, I'm not making much headway with the Reno tourism board regarding my suggested new motto: "RENO: Bring lotion!"
16:00 cait        don't worry
16:00 cait        ashimema: we can read typo
16:00 gaetan_B    bye !
15:58 ashimema    Looks like I need a spellchecker in irc.. so many typos in that last message.. :$
15:55 ashimema    gmcharlt: very true.. we've got a few places with the good 'ol edit the template method out there too (at elast they're in git).. but I go mad every time I have to upgrade them.. slowly proting them all to OPACUserCSS and OPACUserJS only customisations.. there's not much you can't do with those prefs now.
15:54 wahanui     logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/
15:54 cait        logs?
15:54 huginn      rambutan: rangi was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 9 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <rangi> thanks
15:54 rambutan    @seen rangi
15:53 cait        seems lots of problems ith flying over sfo today
15:53 cait        hm did someone hear from rangi?
15:52 gmcharlt    that == OPACUSerJS, to be clear
15:51 gmcharlt    ashimema: yeah, though in some respects that's better than the bad old days of folks editing templates on a whim -- with or without version control
15:51 ashimema    that's a muhc nicer solution
15:50 ashimema    ooh.. didn't know there was a CSS::LESS
15:50 ashimema    I'm horrified by how muhc some of our sites rely on OPACUserJS to do crazy things.
15:50 jcamins     I feel like it'd be better to just use CSS::LESS and cache the results if it reaches that point.
15:50 gmcharlt    I'd prefer handing off to a server-side compiler, though
15:50 gmcharlt    you'd be surprised
15:49 ashimema    mind you.. this is probably very outside of koha's normal user cases.. bet most people don't customise 'that' much.
15:49 ashimema    there are a whole bunch of online services to do the LESS compile for you.. wonder if any have an api such that we could send it off them them and get the css back.. (saving us code)
15:48 jcamins     Right.
15:48 oleonard    I could see a system where saving the OPACUserCSS/JS prefs triggered a grunt task that recompiled CSS and JS
15:48 gmcharlt    just not client-side
15:47 jcamins     oleonard: the LESS compiler is written in JS, which suddenly struck me as amusing. I guess I was the only one who found it funny.
15:47 ashimema    Yup.. I undestand that..
15:46 oleonard    ?
15:46 jcamins     I know.
15:46 oleonard    jcamins: I mean a server-side compiler that wrote the CSS file
15:46 jcamins     oleonard: well, technically, you'd be depending on JS either way. ;)
15:46 cait        hi gmcharlt :)
15:46 gmcharlt    hi cait!
15:45 oleonard    Unless you wanted to make it dependent on JS you'd have to include some kind of LESS compiler with Koha
15:45 ashimema    It would be even nicer to have OPACUserCSS support LESS out of the box.. (I actually prefered SCSS when I initially started playing for some reason)
15:44 jcamins     ashimema: yeah, I like LESS a lot.
15:44 cait        just got home and ate the last cookie and caramel popcorn... probably a bad idea :)
15:44 ashimema    hey cait. :)
15:44 * cait      waves at ashimema :)
15:44 ashimema    Indeed... but with any luck some people might start using LESS with the bootstrap theme coming.. I know I'm hoping to.. I already use it in a few other projects.
15:44 oleonard    Yes, the new theme's CSS is built from LESS files
15:43 jcamins     oleonard: oh, so you decided to use LESS?
15:43 jcamins     Or SASS. Or SCSS.
15:43 oleonard    I want to make it easy for others to contribute changes to the new bootstrap theme without necessarily having to make changes to their dev environment
15:43 jcamins     ashimema: only necessary if one uses LESS.
15:42 ashimema    That sounds like a nice feature ;)
15:40 jcamins     A configuration file setting in my case, but you could make it into a system preference if you wanted.
15:40 oleonard    What is the toggle?
15:37 jcamins     If it is off, the CSS file is served instead of the LESS + JS.
15:37 jcamins     If dev mode is on, the LESS is compiled using JS in the browser.
15:36 jcamins     I have a toggle that decides whether to include the LESS directly, or whether to use prerendered CSS.
15:36 jcamins     Sure. It's really easy.
15:36 oleonard    jcamins: Now or later I'd like to hear again how you handle on-the-fly compiling of LESS files during dev
15:35 jcamins     oleonard: vaguely.
15:33 cait        :)
15:33 * oleonard  distributed some other KohaCon swag to those here who paid his bills
15:32 cait        :)
15:32 * oleonard  is happy to report that the bottle of wine cait generously passed on to him made it home safely
15:31 cait        :)
15:31 khall       heh, I've been working on those gummy bears!
15:30 * cait      is eating a last leftover kohacon cookie right now
15:30 oleonard    A series of tubes!
15:30 cait        maybe like those old bottle post systems
15:30 khall       great name!
15:30 cait        you want to shoot us with a cannon? hmm
15:30 oleonard    Ballistic transportation pods?
15:30 khall       I think cannons are more doable than teleporters
15:29 cait        keep going - we need that done asap!
15:29 khall       still working on it
15:29 cait        teleporters...
15:28 oleonard    Yeah!
15:28 khall       likewise ; )
15:28 cait        i miss you guys!
15:28 cait        hi khall and oleonard
15:28 khall       g'day cait!
15:28 oleonard    cait!
15:26 oleonard    Or that :)
15:26 khall       cool, can do
15:26 khall       should we just change 8004 to RESOLVED?
15:26 oleonard    Okay so 8004 should really be set back to "pushed to master" I guess
15:26 oleonard    Yeah, looks like it.
15:25 khall       10626 covers the same files
15:25 khall       I would say yes
15:25 * oleonard  is checking what changes 10626 makes
15:24 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10626 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Remove doubled up TT plugins
15:24 oleonard    Okay, so I guess the question is whether my follow-up is superfluous too or whether Bug 10626 takes care of it
15:23 khall       my followup is superflous since there is another bug to clean up all the template plugin names
15:22 khall       commit 81edc91f37b58a5f3c02443073c5bc4d4411bf82
15:22 khall       that's where I'm confused. In master I can see "Bug 8004 - Items on Hold Lose Transfer After Being Scanned Twice"
15:22 oleonard    The first follow-up is from you. Isn't it needed?
15:21 oleonard    They have not been pushed. I'm not sure what the sequence was though.
15:21 khall       yeah, were these followups post-push? or am I way off?
15:20 huginn      04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8004 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Items on hold lose transfer after being scanned twice
15:20 oleonard    About Bug 8004...
15:20 khall       yo
15:20 oleonard    khall around?
14:55 oleonard    jcamins around?
14:37 oleonard    But too bad Items.pm can't gracefully handle that kind of problem :|
14:37 oleonard    Oh never mind, stale zebra index.
14:35 oleonard    Is there a way to track down the cause of that error?
14:35 oleonard    'Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at C4/Items.pm line 1407'
14:19 mtompset    Have a great day, #koha.
14:19 mtompset    Well, I better get going... puts drivers hat on.
14:16 mtompset    And greek lettering is all fine, but TransformToNum() in updatedatabase.pl would need to be reworked. :P
14:15 mtompset    Let's not mess with the name, oleonard . :P
14:15 huginn      gmcharlt: The operation succeeded.  Quote #280 added.
14:15 gmcharlt    @quote add <oleonard> Κοηα?
14:14 ashimema    haha. starting with pi in the greek alphabet would give us only another 10 release's untill we run out of letters. :p
14:14 oleonard    Κοηα?
14:13 mtompset    except even. DOH!
14:13 mtompset    -- expect in Greece. :P
14:12 ashimema    haha..
14:11 gmcharlt    heh
14:11 oleonard    There goes our Googlability ;)
14:11 mtompset    gmcharlt: I thought you were releasing an alpha release, a beta release, a delta release, and then the official pi release. ;)
14:10 gmcharlt    make that Koha ρ
14:10 gmcharlt    er, no, I can't read
14:10 gmcharlt    Koha χ would be next if we were going in order :)
14:09 mtompset    alpha, beta, delta, PI? ;)
14:07 oleonard    Nothing to report about my travel home. I was not groped by any grumpy TSA agents, so that's always a win.
14:05 ashimema    certainly would distinguish us.. hehe
14:05 ashimema    actually.. I rather like the idea of switching to greek alphabet releases starting with pi ;)
14:05 ashimema    yourself oleonard?
14:04 ashimema    Yeah.. not bad.. had company for the middle stop which was nice.. got to know brooke a bit better
13:58 oleonard    Also: Hi ashimema :) Travel go okay?
13:58 gmcharlt    Introducing, Koha δ!
13:58 oleonard    It has certainly been discussed
13:58 ashimema    that would be my preferred option at some point anyway..  though I'm happy with the 3.x releases
13:57 ashimema    side note.. skip 4 and goto 5 so we don't get more mixed up with the liblime mess ;)
13:56 ashimema    lol.. people indeed don't seem to understand the term 'default'.
13:51 oleonard    From what I can tell people don't really understand what default means in this context.
13:51 mtompset    But it is desired to not be default, as far as I can tell from the conversation.
13:48 oleonard    Yeah, but Bootstrap is in for 3.14, so it's not like it will be a surprise.
13:47 mtompset    Because we should change the major number at some point in time, and with DBIx getting in, and Bootstrap coming up. It seems like 3.14, 3.16, 4.0 seems like a good progression.
13:46 mtompset    so, too much?
13:46 oleonard    I think that would be overly dramatic.
13:45 mtompset    What do you think of the idea of changing numbering, Koha 4.0 lining up with a new default theme (Bootstrap)?
13:44 mtompset    Greetings, oleonard.
13:42 oleonard    Hi #koha
13:28 huginn      mtompset: tcohen was last seen in #koha 22 hours, 3 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <tcohen> byeeee
13:28 mtompset    @seen tcohen
13:22 druthb      hi, mtompset  :)
13:21 mtompset    Greetings, #koha.
12:57 Joubu       kivilahtio: page catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=XXXX
12:57 Joubu       kivilahtio: I just seen your link. Do you know the same filters stuff still exists in the staff interface ?
12:52 jcamins     You too.
12:52 kivilahtio  thanks for your help jcamins. HAve a great weekend
12:52 kivilahtio  no idea. I bet I could get pretty good anything there
12:51 jcamins     I bet you can get really good fish there.
12:50 jcamins     Poor you, being forced to leave work early to go to a farmer's market. :P
12:50 kivilahtio  anyway have to go enjoy the farmers market in Northern Finland
12:50 kivilahtio  working with Koha is really cool
12:50 jcamins     oleonard is the person to talk to about UI.
12:50 kivilahtio  jcamins: Even two sysprefs already included :) wow I am so proud of myself !
12:49 kivilahtio  jcamins: I am not sure, I think it looks better like this with the clear-button. Without the clear button the plain link is better. But your feedback is much appreciated and I will think about that.
12:48 kivilahtio  jcamins: And it seems to work :)
12:44 druthb      cait-m_:  you're nearly home!
12:35 jcamins     But looks like a useful feature!
12:35 jcamins     No need for a button.
12:35 jcamins     kivilahtio: I think you could just use a regular link.
12:33 kivilahtio  next stop unit test and documentation phew.
12:33 kivilahtio  I think I have a working filter and system preferences
12:32 kivilahtio  FYI
12:32 kivilahtio  jcamins: oleonard: http://193.65.112.189/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?biblionumber=26484&viewallitems=1&filterBranchLimiter=CPL&filterVolume=2013&filterNumber=11&filterIssue=&filterFrom=&filterTo=&filterIssues=Submit
12:32 cait-m_     zurich
12:32 * cait-m_   waves from zuricj
12:03 gaetan_B    hello
10:55 petter      hi Olli!
10:55 NateC       Morning everyone :)
10:54 kivilahtio  hi petter!
10:49 petter      anyone has experience with Koha & RFID?
10:49 petter      hi folks!
10:37 magnuse     cait-m_!
10:35 magnuse     that's a shame!
10:35 wahanui     a plane is 20 mins late
10:35 magnuse     or a plane?
10:35 wahanui     cait-m is probably on a train :-)
10:35 magnuse     cait-m!
10:11 busla       my /srv folder is empty
10:11 busla       just wondering about this documentation in Plack
10:11 busla       "This instructions assume that your Koha checkout is /srv/koha. If it's in some other location, you have to change /srv/koha to correct folder throughout all scripts below."
09:54 busla       hey
09:24 kivilahtio  hi samueld
07:46 samueld     hi everybody
06:33 reiveune    hello
06:14 magnuse     "rain" is a very apt description...
06:14 huginn      magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (7:50 AM CEST on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Steady).
06:13 magnuse     @wunder boo
06:12 * magnuse   waves
03:14 wizzyrea    yarp
03:05 eythian     wizzyrea: a patch to add the holds thing to the packages wouldn't be a bad thing, now you know what's needed... :)
02:55 mtompset    Have a great day, #koha.
02:48 rambuten    time for my sleep quantum
02:48 wizzyrea    I daresay I wish the unsuspend holds cron had a test mode.
02:47 rambuten    ha! downright warm
02:47 huginn      rambuten: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 4.3°C (9:47 PM CDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030 hPa (Rising).  Freeze warning in effect from midnight tonight to 9 am CDT Friday...
02:47 rambuten    @wunder lawrence, ks
02:47 wizzyrea    i saw a 5 one day. That was... unpleasant. But still not as cold as Kansas. I never put on my "winter" coat.
02:44 eythian     5 is pretty damn cold for here.
02:44 eythian     Nah, Wellington doesn't get to 2.
02:43 wizzyrea    niiiice
02:43 rambuten    put a bunch of hot peppers in the dehydrator
02:43 rambuten    I went and picked everything edible from the garden after work
02:42 wizzyrea    not down in wellington proper anyway.
02:42 wizzyrea    did we get down to 2 this winter? I don't think we did...
02:42 rambuten    We're colder than Ontario?
02:42 wizzyrea    br.
02:41 huginn      user00_: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 2.0°C (9:41 PM CDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.43 in 1030 hPa (Rising).  Freeze warning in effect from 1 am to 9 am CDT Friday... 
02:41 user00_     @wunder 64507
02:40 wizzyrea    O.o
02:40 huginn      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Poplar Bluff, Missouri is 5.0°C (8:53 PM CDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.37 in 1028 hPa (Rising).  Freeze warning in effect from 1 am to 9 am CDT Friday... 
02:40 wizzyrea    @wunder help
02:40 wizzyrea    *nod*
02:40 huginn      eythian: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready
02:40 eythian     huginn needs to be taught about wind.
02:39 huginn      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (3:30 PM NZDT on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Rising).
02:39 wizzyrea    @wunder nzwn
02:39 wizzyrea    clear is a stretch - but looks like we've caught a break in regard to wind
02:39 wizzyrea    wow that's chilly
02:31 mtompset    Care to send a few degrees with way, wizzyrea?:)
02:30 huginn      mtompset: The current temperature in Schomberg, Ontario is 2.2°C (10:30 PM EDT on October 24, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
02:30 mtompset    @wunder l7e 5y5
02:10 wizzyrea    clear. really.
02:10 huginn      wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 17.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on October 25, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Steady).
02:10 wizzyrea    @wunder nzwn
01:48 wizzyrea    easier than checking a running system
01:48 wizzyrea    right cool thanks
01:45 wizzyrea    where to look :)
01:45 wizzyrea    thank you that is exactly what I needed to know
01:44 eythian     debian/koha-common.cron* should tell you
01:43 eythian     I don't think it is
01:41 wizzyrea    I should say
01:41 wizzyrea    unsuspend suspended holds
01:41 wizzyrea    is the unsuspend cron a default one?
01:37 mtompset    And the whole DBIx stuff will have been in for 2 versions already, and nicely working. If I recall/understand correctly.
01:35 wizzyrea    and then major number from there on.
01:35 wizzyrea    ^ new default theme is a great excuse to version bump to 4
01:21 mtompset    Because default in 3.14? No... default in 3.16? Hmmmm.... I'm for an announcement about impending 4.0 with the new default theme. :)
01:16 eythian     It could be a suggestion. It's not really a big change, but it is a user-visible one.
01:16 eythian     I don't think that's come up.
01:15 mtompset    Regarding the OPAC theme thread... has anyone thought to co-relate the potential number scheme with it?
00:44 rangi       thanks
00:44 oleonard    Best of luck rangi
00:42 rangi       its all jammed up, but apparently the big planes are mostly on schedule
00:42 peggy       Have a peaceful flight, @rangi
00:42 rangi       so i got on the 12.03 which took off at 4pm
00:41 rangi       lucky i turned up early to the airport in reno, cos my 5pm flight was cancelled
00:41 oleonard    :( Not so soon, but sooner than tomorrow eh?
00:41 gmcharlt    fingers crossed
00:41 rangi       i think im flying out of here at 9
00:41 rangi       SFO
00:41 oleonard    Where are you rangi?
00:40 oleonard    There, I feel better. Thanks.
00:40 rangi       threads like that make it almost useless posting questions like galen asked
00:40 rangi       oleonard: dont respond
00:39 oleonard    Someone please restrain me from responding to that OPAC theme thread
00:30 wahanui     okay, eythian.
00:30 eythian     wahanui: linux is also http://dilbert.com/fast/1995-06-24/
00:30 wahanui     well, linux is soo coool. I'm running two VMs inside rhcl's OpenSuse desktop, and trying to convince myself I need to have another one with some version of RH running "just because"
00:30 eythian     wahanui: linux